Dave Letele: Overcoming Poverty, Crime & Mental Health Issues - Becoming ‘Brown Buttabean’ & Founding BBM
Dave Letele is perhaps best known as a former professional boxer 'Brown Buttabean’, but his story is so much larger than that.
It's been filled with highs and lows, from early sporting success to the failure of his supermarket business in Australia where he lost everything, including his family, and returned to New Zealand with only the clothes on his back, weighing in at over 200 kgs.
He turned to prize fighting to earn money and get fit, lost over 100kgs and shared his journey on social media. The public response to his efforts built up the movement that became Buttabean Motivation or BBM.
For the last decade, he’s worked tirelessly to create opportunities for people. He has set up free gyms in West and South Auckland, and Tokoroa, a community kitchen, a social supermarket in Tokoroa, and a Foodshare which regularly feeds thousands of people.
In this episode we cover it all, in great detail – and it’s a blockbuster. He’s a man making a huge difference in Kiwi communities and we’re so thrilled to share his story.
We’re also thrilled to announce Dave has joined us at B2B Speakers, our business that brings our guests to your events. If you’d like to hire Dave , or any of our other epic guests, at your next conference or function, get in touch by going to B2Bspeakers.co.nz
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2/4/2024 • 1 hour, 58 minutes
Hambassadors #16: Are We Influencers now? Knob Polishing & Next Guest Announcement
Steve and Seamus discuss their latest 'acting' gig, Steve has coffee with Ric Salizzo and announces another big life update, Seamus shares his public speaking anxiety, they give a Halbergs update and answer all your questions.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
1/31/2024 • 23 minutes, 26 seconds
Guy Montgomery: NZ Comedy & Podcast Pioneer, 10 Years of TWIOAT, The Guy Mont-Spelling Bee
Guy Montgomery is one of New Zealand’s best and most popular comedians who has been a fixture on Kiwi screens for over a decade.
He’s been on Taskmaster, 7 Days, Celebrity Treasure Island and Have you Been Paying attention, while simultaneously selling out standup shows across Australia and New Zealand. Last year, his new show: Guy Montgomery’s Guy Mont-Spelling Bee premiered on Three to rave reviews and his new standup show took out the coveted Fred Award at the NZ comedy festival for best new show. In his spare time, he also created NZ’s most popular podcast called The Worst Idea of All Time – which has had over 10 million downloads.
In this episode we talk about the time he slept in a New York sewer for a week, his most outrageous bets, why he had a stand-off with my father-in-law at a recent comedy show, his rise through the NZ comedy ranks, reflections on the life of a step-dad and much, much more. Guy has reached the summit of NZ comedy and it’s easy to see why. He’s quick, he’s fun and silly but he’s also a deep thinker with a wicked work ethic and desire to keep growing. This was such a fun one.
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1/28/2024 • 1 hour, 53 minutes, 26 seconds
Dr. Inia Raumati: How to Run an Ultra Marathon & Life as an ED Doctor (Low Key Legend)
Dr Inia Raumati is one of our Low Key Legends – a man who lives life in the extremes.
He works as an emergency doctor at Auckland City Hospital, was deployed to Iraq with the NZ army, holds a blue-belt in Jui Jitsu and has volunteered on rescue helicopters. He is one of only a small group of people who have run the 4 Deserts Grand Slams, completing multi-day “raids” across the Sahara, Gobi, Atacama, and the Antarctic. This year, Inia plans on being the first person in the world to run a self-supported, multi-stage ultra marathon (that’s over 250 km per race) on every continent, in a single year.
In this episode we talk about how running helped him deal with his anger in his youth, surfing without knowing how to swim, the obstacles he’s overcome, his path into medicine and the challenges of being a maori doctor in New Zealand, the most incredible stories from his ultra-marathon missions around the world and the logistics of working towards this year’s goal. Inia is a candid, Kiwi bloke, whose honest sensibility, humour, and grounded nature was refreshing - and his mental hardness and mindset will blow you away. This is an ep not to be missed. Listen on iheart or wherever you get your podcasts from, or watch the video on Youtube.
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1/21/2024 • 1 hour, 43 minutes, 36 seconds
Hambassadors #14: Presenting at the 2024 Halbergs, Learn to Pod with Steve, Behind the Scenes with Tim Brown
Steve and Seamus have landed a gig at the 2024 Halberg Awards, they go behind the scenes of their Tim Brown podcast, Steve is launching a new course and has made some parenting mistakes.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
1/17/2024 • 27 minutes, 4 seconds
Raelene Castle: Leadership Lessons as CEO of Rugby Australia, Bulldogs, Sport New Zealand and more!
Raelene Castle is the CEO of Sport NZ, and one of the most accomplished and experienced administrators in NZ sport.
She spent six years as CEO of Netball NZ, before becoming the first female CEO of an NRL team, when she led the Bulldogs for six years.
After that she smashed another glass wall, becoming Rugby Australia’s first female CEO in 2018.
In this episode we talk about the challenges of the Israel Folau saga, when she found herself at the centre of one of sports biggest controversies at Rugby Australia, how she got the job at the Bulldogs, her relationship with Des Hassler and the most insightful memories from six years inside the NRL, lessons in leadership, how she got her start at Netball NZ, her return to New Zealand and the challenges facing sport here.
After listening to this, you’ll get a taste for why Raelene has had the career she has. She’s the real deal, full of energy, sharp as a tack and doesn’t miss a beat. This was a lot of fun and we're so stoked to be able to bring Raelene’s story to you in full.
We're also delighted to announce Raelene has joined our Speaking business at B2B Speakers. If you'd like to hire Raelene, or one of our other guests to speak at your function or event, flick us a message by going to B2Bspeakers.co.nz
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1/14/2024 • 1 hour, 29 minutes, 53 seconds
Tim Brown: From All White to AllBirds Co-Founder, Athlete Turned Serial Entrepreneur
Tim Brown is a former professional footballer who played 112 times for the Wellington Phoenix and earned 30 All Whites caps.
Then, in 2012, at the age of 31, he retired early from professional football to pursue a masters degree in management in the UK. At the same time, he was forming an idea for a woollen, environmentally friendly, sustainable shoe. Four years later he was the co-founder of his shoe company called All Birds, and nine years later his company went public on the Nasdaq with a valuation close to $4 billion US dollars.
In this episode we talk about the realities of being the CEO of a billion-dollar company, all the most interesting steps on his journey from a Wellington flat to worldwide footwear industry leader, partnering with Leonardo di Caprio and meeting Barack Obama, the challenges the company faced in 2023 and why he stepped down as co-CEO and all the best bits from his time with the All Whites.
Tim has been a dream guest for us since we started this thing in 2019 – and he didn’t disappoint. This was one of our favourite episodes. Tim is sharp, charismatic, a brilliant storyteller and incredibly humble for a guy that has achieved so much in his life. We both left this recording feeling incredibly inspired. You’re going to love this one. Listen on iheart or wherever you get your podcasts from, or watch the video on Youtube.
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1/7/2024 • 1 hour, 31 minutes, 10 seconds
Hambassadors #13: Dream Guest confirmed, Steve's New Year's Eve Blowout, Dame Susie D and more
Steve and Seamus reveal which 'dream guest' they have recorded an episode with, they compare New Years' Eve celebrations, discuss their exciting new business venture and Seamus cycling from Hamilton to Cambridge.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
1/3/2024 • 20 minutes, 57 seconds
Jeremy Wells, Fletch and Vaughan, Wayne Smith and more! The best of 2023 (part two)
Steve and Seamus highlight more of their favourite conversations from 2023. This episode includes snippets from their chats with Sarai Bareman, Jeremy Wells, Abbas Nazari, Sonia Gray, Fletch and Vaughan, Topp Twins, Scott Beard, Wayne Smith Jermal Paerata, Steve Price, Duane Dalton, Josh Komen and Dave Wood.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
12/31/2023 • 2 hours, 4 minutes, 20 seconds
Paul Henry, Marc Ellis, Lisa Carrington, and more! The best of 2023 (part one)
Steve and Seamus highlight some of their favourite conversations from 2023. This episode features snippets from their chats with Paul Henry, Mea Motu, Example, Lisa Carrington, Marc Ellis, Chris Wood, Hayley Holt, Izzy Whitley, Awen Guttenbeil and David Galbraith.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
12/24/2023 • 1 hour, 49 minutes, 21 seconds
Hambassadors #12: 2023's Most Uncomfortable Conversations, Funniest Moments, Biggest Regrets and more!
Steve and Seamus reveal their best and worst moments of the year on the podcast, Steve reflects on his 12 pubs of Christmas pub crawl, Seamus explains why he wasn't there and their new business interest.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
12/20/2023 • 29 minutes, 29 seconds
Dallas Tamaira (Fat Freddy’s Drop) - The Best Stories from 20 Year Career & New Solo Album
On this episode of Between Two Beers we talk to Dallas Tamaira
Dallas is the lead singer of Fat Freddy’s Drop, one of New Zealand’s most popular bands of all time. His voice is unmistakable as the focal point of the seven-piece super group, but this year, for the first time in two decades, Dallas has released a solo EP, called Levels.
In this episode we talk about the best stories across 20 years with Fat Freddy's, lessons from the road, finding sanctuary at the spacies, the origins of Fat Freddy's, NZ’ best kept musical secret, fatherhood, his new music and much much more.
Dallas is one of my favourite artists and his music has been the background to nearly every summer I can remember. It was a real privelidge to get to share some time with him, and unpack the best bits from his incredible life in music.
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12/17/2023 • 1 hour, 27 minutes, 18 seconds
Ryan Fox: Life as a Pro Golfer, Best Tiger Woods Stories & Friendship with Shane Warne (re-release)
On this episode of Between Two Beers we’re rewinding the clock back to April of 2022 when we sat down with Ryan Fox.
Ryan is NZ’s best golfer and at the time of recording had won two European Tour titles and has 13 professional wins.
Since recording Fox has added another title, and a second place finish and a third, to go along with $5.1m in prize money. In this episode we talk about how he celebrated his win in the Ras Al Kaimah classic and what happened to the $500,000 dollar prize money, what it was like playing a hole with Tiger Woods – and we hear all his best Tiger stories, memories of his late, great mate Shane Warne, how Steve Hansen’s advice helped him out of a funk, what makes Steve Williams such a good caddy and how his upbringing, surrounded by Kiwi sporting royalty, shaped his life.
This ep was a cracker and we’re excited to re-release it for our new listeners. We had so much fun across the two hours. Ryan said before we started recording that he was an open book – and to ask him anything – so we did. it's really rare to have a sportsperson at the top of the tree in NZ who’s so accessible, fun and likeable. You’re gonna like this one.
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12/10/2023 • 1 hour, 59 minutes, 5 seconds
HAMBASSADORS #11: Hamilton’s Most Legendary Pub Crawl, The 12 Pubs of Xmas
This week, we’re taking you behind the scenes of Waikato’s greatest pub crawl of all time… According to us anyway. 🤷♂️
For the past six years, our annual ‘12 Pubs of Xmas’ tour has been raising hell across Hamilton.
Tune into this week’s episode of HAMBASSADORS to hear all the best and worst stories from our favourite tradition - as well as our Christmas Wishlists, beard care routine, and more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
12/6/2023 • 18 minutes, 25 seconds
Thomas Nabbs: Founder of The Waterboy, Giving Opportunities to Kiwi Kids (Low-Key Legend)
Thomas is one of our Low Key Legends and is the founder of The Waterboy - a Hamilton based not-for-profit organisation that uses sport and education to help disadvantaged youths.
His charity helps connect business sponsors with people, mostly children, to help them overcome barriers related to getting involved in sport, be it finance, family dysfunction, disability, family violence and sexuality. He's helping to create stronger people and communities, but that’s only part of his story.
In this episode we unpack the origin story of The Waterboy, the loss of his parents and the impact it had on him, lessons from David Galbraith, his marathon mishap when guiding a vision impaired runner, the beauty of cricket umpiring and some of the best stories from the huge amount of kids that have had their lives enriched thanks to Thomas.
Thomas' work is so important in NZ where the gap between the haves and the have nots is growing. He cares, deeply, and has created a vehicle to help. His vision is to create stronger communities in NZ and he’s just at the start of his journey – but he’s already doing it.
Listen on iheart or wherever you get your podcasts from, or watch the video on Youtube.
If you’d like to hire one of our guests to speak at your function or event, flick us a message by going to B2Bspeakers.co.nz. This episode was brought to you from the Export Beer garden studio. Enjoy. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
12/3/2023 • 1 hour, 35 minutes, 23 seconds
Lani Daniels’ Unexpected Path to Becoming a World Champion Boxer
Lani Daniels is a World champion boxer who holds the IBF heavyweight title and will this weekend aim to add the Light Heavyweight title to her collection, making her the first Kiwi woman in history to hold two world titles at different weights.
In this episode we talk about her rollercoaster ride from Pipiwai to world champion, growing up with eight siblings, the tragic loss of her brother and the spiral of drinking, depression and guilt that followed, how she pulled herself out of that hole and discovered boxing, her intense training regime, path to the top and all the best stories in between.
This was a really cool ep. Lani Daniels is authentically Lani. She’s a genuinely lovely person, with a gentle soul and infectuous laugh, who just happens to also be one of the best fighters in the world.
Her path to the top was filled with adversity, discipline and support, and it’s a story everyone should hear.
Listen on iheart or wherever you get your podcasts from, or watch the video on Youtube.
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11/26/2023 • 1 hour, 25 minutes, 57 seconds
HAMBASSADORS #10: Steve Quits His Job, Seamus' Commentary Disaster, and more!
Steve is leaving his role as Premium Sports editor at NZ Herald, Seamus is off to the Solomon Islands for a TV gig and reflects on a bad commentary experience, plus the guys reflect on their episode with Sir Ashley Bloomfield and talk about their upcoming guests.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
11/22/2023 • 23 minutes, 27 seconds
Sir Ashley Bloomfield: Behind the Scenes of the Pandemic & Lessons in Leadership
Sir Ashley Bloomfield was the Director-General of Health in New Zealand from 2018-2022 and became one of the country's most recognisable faces during the Covid-19 pandemic.
In this episode, we talk about the anxiety of facing the media and nation every day at 1 pm and the effect it had on his personal life, the power of ‘I don’t know’, his weekly interviews with Mike Hosking and Kim Hill, dealing with fame, lessons in leadership and much, much more.
Ashley is brilliant company and an exceptionally articulate communicator – with so many valuable lessons to share. This was a really cool opportunity to probe away at the *other side* of such a high-profile public figure – and he didn’t disappoint.
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11/19/2023 • 1 hour, 6 minutes, 49 seconds
Billy Stairmand: 20+Years of Pro Surfing, Beating Kelly Slater, and more!
On this episode of Between Two Beers we talk to Billy Stairmand.
Billy is a professional surfer, and arguably our best ever. He’s won the national New Zealand title a record eight times, surfed at the Olympics and has competed internationally around the globe for 20 years.
In this episode we talk about the time he beat Kelly Slater, what the busy, international life of a pro surfer really looks like, the tragic loss of his mum and brother, and dealing with adversity, sharks, big-wave surfing, keeping a healthy marriage and his Olympic challenge.
Billy is a ray of light, such an optimistic, fun-loving guy who has worked incredibly hard and sacrificed so much to reach the top in his sport. You’ll love Billy’s outlook and approach to life, story of success and all the best yarns in between.
Listen on iheart or wherever you get your podcasts from, or watch the video on Youtube.
If you’d like to hire Billy, or many of our other great guests, to speak at your function or event, flick us a message by going to B2Bspeakers.co.nz. This episode was brought to you from the Export Beer garden studio. Enjoy. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
11/12/2023 • 1 hour, 34 minutes, 33 seconds
HAMBASSADORS #9 (ft. Mike Minogue): Big Announcement + Reflecting on 2 Million Downloads
Steve and Seamus have a big business announcement (feat Mike Minogue), they reflect on reaching two million downloads, their fourth birthday, recent eps with Wayne Smith, Abbas Nazari, The Topp Twins and quiz each other on B2B trivia.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
11/8/2023 • 27 minutes, 25 seconds
The Topp Twins on Comedy, Activism, Cancer Journeys and their Favourite Characters
On this episode of Between Two Beers we talk to Dame Jools and Dame Lynda Topp. The twin sisters are best known as the joyfully chaotic and comedic country music duo The Topp Twins and have captivated audiences in NZ and overseas for more than 40 years.
In this episode we hear how two country kids from Huntly became much-loved Kiwis icons, the origins of characters like Camp Mother and Camp Leader and Ken and Kenn, their best stories from the busking years, their most memorable small-town gigs, their long history of political activism, health updates and reflections on their exceptionally successful careers. This was a really special episode, and we felt honoured to share so much time with the Untouchable girls. Their enthusiasm for life, for fun and for standing up for what is right make them exceptional company, Kiwi icons and just brilliant storytellers. You’ll love this one. Listen on iheart or wherever you get your podcasts from, or watch the video on Youtube. And follow us on Insta and Tik Tok to see the best video clips from each ep.
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11/5/2023 • 1 hour, 34 minutes, 5 seconds
Abbas Nazari: Escaping the Taliban, The Tampa Affair, Becoming a Best-Selling Author
Strap in, because this is one of the craziest stories we’ve told.
When the Taliban were at the height of their power in 2001, Abbas Nazari's parents were faced with a choice: stay and face persecution in their homeland of Aghanistan, or seek security for their young children elsewhere.
Abbas’ family chose to leave, and what happened next formed the storyline for his best selling book After The Tampa.
Abbas talks about escaping the Taliban as a young child, being adrift at sea as a refugee for weeks, the makings of the largest maritime rescue in modern history, which turned into an international standoff and finding home in Aoteraroa.
Then after arriving in NZ as an eight year old who spoke no English, Abbas went on to place third in the New Zealand Spelling Bee a few years later, played rep rugby, graduated from the University of Canterbury, was awarded a Fulbright scholarship in Washington DC and now owns two gyms and is one of NZ’s most in-demand speakers.
Abbas is a world-class storyteller, with one of the most incredible tales to tell. This was one of our favourite episodes we’ve done, and a real perspective shifter.
Listen on iheart or wherever you get your podcasts from, or watch the video on Youtube. And follow us on Insta and Tik Tok to see the best video clips from each ep.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
10/29/2023 • 1 hour, 54 minutes, 49 seconds
Sir Wayne Smith on All Blacks Career & Culture, Black Ferns, Future of Rugby
Sir Wayne Smith is one of the most respected and accomplished figures in New Zealand Rugby history – an absolute legend of the game.
He was a 17-cap All Black who went on to win three World Cups - two as All Blacks assistant coach, and one with the Black Ferns.
He’s also been the All Blacks coach, won four Super Rugby titles as a coach, two with the Crusaders and two with the Chiefs, and currently works as the Performance coach to both the All Blacks and Black Ferns.
In this episode we talk about the differences between coaching men and women, what rule changes he’d like to see in the game, why he was sacked as All Blacks coach and the hardest moments of his career in 2007, his fair tale ride with the Black Ferns, where his resilience comes from and much, much more.
There’s a reason Wayne is considered one of World Rugby’s greatest thinkers, and this was a fascinating insight into how his brain works. It was a real honour getting to share so much of his time, and it’s easy to see why his players are all so connected to him as a person and a coach.
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10/22/2023 • 1 hour, 45 minutes, 52 seconds
HAMBASSADORS #8: Which Guests Need a Follow Up? Steve’s Gambling Problem, and more!
Steve shares his realisation that he had a gambling problem, the boys reveal their next big guest, reflect on recent episodes with Hayley Holt and Jemarl Paerata and discuss which guests need a follow up episode.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
10/18/2023 • 24 minutes, 25 seconds
Hayley Holt Opens Up About Alcohol, Miscarriage, Motherhood, Politics, CGW, and more!
Hayley Holt is one of NZ’s highest profile broadcasters and has been a fixture on NZ screens for 20 years.
She’s been a snowboarder, a ballroom dancer, a member of the Green Party, a radio host, celebrity boxer and has fronted shows like Crowd Goes Wild, Breakfast and One’s Sports news.
In this episode we find out what young Hayley was like, the unlikely path from dancer to snowboarder, her difficult relationship with booze, behind the scenes of Crowd Goes Wild, Ric Salizzo, Live TV and the difficult transition to Breakfast, her challenging road to motherhood and much, much more.
Hayley has such a fun, infectious energy – this one was a blast. She’s lived such an incredibly full and varied life – and there’s so much to learn at each chapter.
Listen on iheart or wherever you get your podcasts from, or watch the video on Youtube. And follow us on Insta and Tik Tok to see the best video clips from each ep.
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10/15/2023 • 1 hour, 51 minutes, 22 seconds
Jemarl Paerata: Finding Purpose After Hitting Rock Bottom (Lowkey Legend)
On this episode of Between Two Beers, we talk to Jemarl Paerata.
Jemarl was the inspiration for starting our Low Key Legends series. I heard him speak during a presentation at Dave Wood’s Calm Under Pressure workshop earlier this year, and was immediately captivated and knew we had to get him in for a chat.
These days, Jemarl is as a motivational mentor and the founder of Te Kaiarahi –where he inspires people to reach their full potential based on Te Ao Maori principals and connecting back to nature.
But his journey there has been one hell of a ride.
In this episode we talk about why his dad was sentenced to 30 years at the Bangkok Hilton in 1991, and how he tried to get him out, his 20-year career as a professional firefighter and the trauma and darkness associated with the job, his relationship with alcohol, hitting rock bottom and how he pulled himself out of his hole, discovering his purpose, starting his own business and realising his vision.
Jemarl is just at the start of his journey helping and building community. But his story is one that needs to be heard.
Listen on iheart or wherever you get your podcasts from, or watch the video on Youtube. And follow us on Insta and Tik Tok to see the best video clips from each ep.
This episode was brought to you from the Export Beer garden studio. Enjoy. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
10/8/2023 • 1 hour, 30 minutes, 9 seconds
HAMBASSADORS #7: Reflecting on Steve Price and Jack Tame, Seamus in Fiji, Steve cried (again)
Steve and Seamus reflect on recent episodes with Steve Price and Jack Tame and discuss being on the other side of the mic as guests on other people's podcasts.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
10/4/2023 • 27 minutes, 12 seconds
Jack Tame: The Perfect Interview, Grilling Winston Peters, Lessons from Hosking (Re-Release)
On this episode of Between Two Beers we’re rewinding the clock back to April of 2022 when we sat down with Jack Tame.
Jack is journalism’s Swiss Army Knife – a guy that does it all. He’s been a Breakfast host, a 6pm news reader, he hosts one of NZ’s biggest radio shows on Newstalk ZB, is a columnist for the NZ Herald, has moderated live election debates, now hosts TVNZ’s Q and A and has seen more, and experienced more of the world – than any 36-year-old we know.
In this episode we talk about how he was given Paul Holmes’ radio job on ZB at the age of 25 with no radio experience, *That* interview with Winston Peters where Jack was called James – about 10 times, the time he was recording live TV while fearing for his fathers life, dancing with Beyonce, covering Trump, why he left Breakfast TV, the things you don’t know about MIke Hosking and so much more.
This was one of our favourite episodes and one we wanted to share with new listeners of the podcast. Jack is, in my opinion, the best political interviewer in the country and his razor sharp mind and quick wit made this one a lot of fun.
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10/1/2023 • 2 hours, 46 seconds
Steve Price Reflects on Rugby League Career, Losing his Father, Sonny Fai and more!
On this episode of Between Two Beers we talk to Steve Price.
Steve is a legend of rugby league on both sides of the Tasman. In Australia he played 222 games for the Bulldogs and 16 for Australia before moving to New Zealand in 2005 to captain the Warriors.
Steve’s impact on New Zealand transcended rugby league where he racked up 91 caps for the Warriors across four years, but also opened a supermarket in Waipu, coached rugby league at Mt Albert Grammar school and became a pillar of his community, which was recognised when he was appointed a Member of the NZ Order of Merit in 2010.
In this episode we talk about Steve’s high-achieving family, and how two of his kids are now professional athletes, the tragic loss of his father to suicide last year and how it impacted him, what makes a good leader, and how he navigated challenges across his career like the scandals that enveloped the Bulldogs and the loss of Sonny Fai at the Warriors, *That* Origin fight, behind the scenes of the Supermarket business, Celebrity Treasure Island and ,much, much more.
Steve may well be NZ’s favourite Australian, and after listening to this it will be easy to see why. He’s achieved incredible success in all facets of his life and has so much brilliant wisdom to share. This was a really special one.
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9/24/2023 • 1 hour, 49 minutes, 9 seconds
HAMBASSADORS #6: Remembering Our Football Roots, Our Next Guests, Underrated Episodes
Steve and Seamus discuss why Steve hired a hubby, is sweet chilli sauce is acceptable to add to nachoes, reflections on Chris Wood, Hamish Pinkham and the Chatham Cup final and tease some upcoming guests.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
9/20/2023 • 24 minutes, 47 seconds
Chris Wood: $50 Million Kiwi in the English Premier League
On this episode of Between Two Beers we talk to Chris Wood.
Chris is one of New Zealand’s best football players of all time, with over 200 English Premier League appearances and more than 50 goals.
In 2022 he became the EPL’s most expensive 30-year-old in Premier League history when his move from Burnley to Newcastle cost $NZD 50 million.
At the start of this year he joined Nottingham Forrest where he currently plays, along with the All Whites – where he’s captain, leading all time goal scorer and best player.
In this episode we talk about his challenging journey to the top, what makes a good coach vs a great coach, what life is like inside a Premier League dressing room, best players he’s played with and against, making his EPL debut as a 17-year-old, why he got booed at Leeds and the mental affect it had on him, the art of scoring goals and much, much more.
This was Chris’s first every long-form podcast and was such an insightful look behind the scenes of what it takes to get to the top in football.
We loved it, and hope you do too.
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9/17/2023 • 1 hour, 50 minutes, 15 seconds
Hamish Pinkham: Rhythm & Vines Co-Founder, Crazy Artist Stories, Almost Losing it All
On this episode of Between Two Beers we talk to Hamish Pinkham.
Hamish is a lawyer, entrepreneur and musician, but is best known for being the co-founder and director of Rhythm and Vines - New Zealand's premier live music festival.
In 2003 Hamish and his two roommates at the University of Otago decided to host a party for their friends in a Gisborne vinyard.
The story of what’s happened since then is quite remarkable.
In this episode we talk through the 21-year journey of R and V highs and lows, from fears of losing it all, to having 30,000 revellers at its peak. We hear the best behind-the-scenes stories from experiences with Public Enemy and Chance the Rapper, the wildest riders, his hustlers mentality, the time he tried standup comedy, and all the business lessons he learned along the way.
What Hamish has built and achieved over the last two decades is seriously impressive. But after talking to him – it’s easy to see how. He’s smart, fun, driven and extremely personable. This was a really fun ep.
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9/10/2023 • 1 hour, 44 minutes, 6 seconds
HAMBASSADORS #5: Steve gets a Vasectomy, Russell Packer Review, Marc Ellis Live + more!
Steve shares his concerns ahead of his vasectomy, the guys reflect on recent episodes with Russell Packer and Sarai Bareman and Seamus going viral in Fiji, and answer listener questions.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
9/6/2023 • 21 minutes, 46 seconds
Russell Packer: From Prison to an MBA, 13 Years in the NRL, and more!
On this episode of Between Two Beers we talk to Russell Packer.
Russell is a former rugby league player who played for the Warriors, Tigers, Dragons and Kiwis across a 13-year professional career in the NRL.
After retiring from league two years ago, Russell returned to NZ with his family and is now a businessman, leading a property development project in his hometown of Foxton.
Russell’s footy career was divided by one major incident. In 2013 he was sentenced to two years in prison for assaulting a man outside a pub in Sydney.
It’s a definitive part of Russell’s story, and the impressive man he is today is reflective of the lessons he learned about himself through his darkest days.
We talk about what happened that night in Sydney, how he passed the time in jail and how it changed him, how he got back into the NRL and became a senior leader, *that* time he pissed his pants for the Warriors, his MBA journey and thirst for learning, the realities of raising an autistic son, volunteering in the community and giving back.
Unfortunately we had a slight technical glitch about a quarter-way through the pod and lost some of the chat about his childhood and the Warriors – which you will later hear referenced.
Russell’s life has been one hell of a ride and the thing that stuck with me on this one is his appetite for self-improvement. His thirst for learning and growing, and being a better man is really impressive. If you only know Rusty from a headline, this ep will change your perception of the man. We’re so proud to be able to tell his story.
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9/3/2023 • 1 hour, 38 minutes, 55 seconds
Sarai Bareman: FIFA’s First Chief Women’s Football Officer, Corruption & Sexism, Eugene Bareman’s Success
On this episode of Between Two Beers we talk to Sarai Bareman.
Sarai is one of the most powerful, and influential women in world sport.
She has been FIFA’s chief women’s football officer since 2016, when the role was first created.
Her mandate included doubling the sport's global female player base from 30 million to 60 million and she's ultimately responsible for all levels of the game – from grassroots through to elite international competition – across 200 countries. Quite a big gig.
In this episode we talk about her relationship with her brother, UFC superstar coach Eugene Bareman – and their humble beginnings, the chaos and stress caused by the Auckland shootings on the morning of the first World Cup game in NZ, how she worked her way up from a bank teller in West Auckland to the biggest job in women’s football, the misogyny, corruption and abuse she encountered along the way and all the best ‘pinch yourself’ moments from her epic rise.
This one was pretty special – and after making it to the end – you'll be able to see why Sarai holds the position she does.
She’s sharp, articulate, empathetic – and perhaps most importantly, authentic. There’s no Fifa talking points in this one, it’s Sarai Bareman as you’ve never heard her before. One of our all time fav eps.
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8/27/2023 • 2 hours, 1 minute, 15 seconds
HAMBASSADORS #4: Low Key Legends, Women’s Football, Do We Have ADHD?
Steve and Seamus reflect on New Zealand's biggest low key legends, their favourite moments from the women's World Cup, Mikie Havoc and Jeremy Wells, and take an ADHD test.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
8/23/2023 • 16 minutes, 41 seconds
Dean Lonergan: Losing it ALL & Rebuilding, Duco Events, Jeff Horn vs Manny Pacquiao, and more!
On this episode of Between Two Beers we talk to Dean Lonergan.
Dean is one of New Zealand’s biggest and best events promoters. The many credits to his name include David Tua v Shane Cameron, Fight For Life, Joseph Parker, the Auckland nines, Manny Pacqiou v Jeff Horne and many, many more.
He was also a former professional rugby league player with the Canberra Raiders and the Kiwis, before he retired at 26 and did breakfast radio in New Zealand for over a decade.
There’s a lot to unpack in the life of Dean.
In this episode we talk about his biggest business failures and how he ended up $1.8million in debt, what happened at DUCO and why he walked away, the art of selling, the Morning Pirates on radio Hauraki, Fight For Life, family and fatherhood.
This was a super engaging and entertaining chat. Dean has lived one hell of a life and has an endless supply of great yarns from working with the biggest names in NZ and Aussie sport.
Listen on iheart or wherever you get your podcasts from, or watch the video on Youtube. And follow us on Insta and Tik Tok where we cut up all the best video clips from each ep.
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8/20/2023 • 1 hour, 29 minutes, 22 seconds
Sonia Gray: Behind the Scenes of Lotto, ADHD Diagnosis, Neurodiversity, and more!
On this episode of Between Two Beers we talk to Sonia Gray.
Sonia is one of New Zealand’s best-known faces, most recognisable for being the Lotto presenter for the last 15 years. But she's much more than that; she’s a model, actress and writer who’s starred in shows like Xena: Warrior Princess, Shortland Street, Wheel of Fortune and Young Hercules and she’s acted in Sione’s Wedding, Love Birds and the Netflix film The Royal Treatment.
Most recently, Sonia has turned her attention to helping others.
Sonia has ADHD and a neurodivergent daughter and was the executive producer of a documentary, which screened on TVNZ and gives a brilliant insight into the lives of families with kids whose brains work a bit differently.
She’s also just released a 10-part podcast series that analyses her lived-experience of neurodiversity to better understand how we can support and celebrate the many Kiwis that fall under that umbrella.
In this ep we talk about all the best stories from Lotto to cricket and Tana Umaga, Ryan Gosling, Wheel of Fortune and Shortland Street. And the second half delves deep into the world of neuro-diversity – a really open and informative discussion which affects at least 20% of Kiwis. Sonia was a really cool guest with great chat and a hell of a story to tell. I personally was touched, and learned a lot from this episode and am sure you will too.
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8/13/2023 • 1 hour, 32 minutes, 13 seconds
HAMBASSADORS #3: We say 'Journeys' Too Much, Fletch & Vaughan Drop F Bombs + more!
On this episode of Hambassadors, Steve and Seamus work through all of the most annoying things they say, they reflect on a week of public speaking and episodes with Duane Dalton and Josh Komen, why Fletch and Vaughan broke the record for most swear words on an episode and answer your questions.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
8/8/2023 • 24 minutes, 50 seconds
Josh Komen: Surviving Cancer, Heart Attacks, Climbing Everest, and more!
On this episode of Between Two Beers we talk to Josh Komen.
Before I start with the bio, can I just say – stick with this one. It’s one of the most powerful stories we’ve ever told.
At the age of 23 Josh was one of the fastest runners in New Zealand. Then, in a blink of an eye, he became one of the sickest.
Josh was diagnosed with Acute Myeloid Leukemia not once, but twice. This diagnosis took him on a 10 year battle of deep depression, an allogeneic stem cell transplant, being put into a coma, developing graft vs host disease, multiple complications, all while experiencing multiple heart attacks – and somehow in the middle of this hell – he climbed Everest and went on 200 Sky Dives.
Today, 10 years after he received his deadly diagnosis, he is alive, strong, healthy and happy.
Not only did he survive but he began to thrive. Josh reclaimed back his health, through patience and persistence and is now married and a father.
Through his suffering, Josh has learnt so much about the human condition and in this episode we cover it all. Strap in – Josh is an absolute legend.
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8/6/2023 • 2 hours, 42 seconds
Madeleine Sami: NZ Comedy Royalty, Partying with Taika Waititi, Working with Lucy Lawless, and more!
On this episode of Between Two Beers we talk to Madeline Sami.
Madeleine is one of New Zealand’s funniest, and most prolific, comedic talents.
She’s an actor, musician, comedian, writer and director, who you might have seen as the star of Box-office success the Breaker-Upperers, or her new show Deadloch, or as the host of the Great Kiwi Bake Off, or Shortland Street, or Super City or Sione’s Wedding....she’s done a lot – her IMDB page is ridiculous..
In this episode we talk about her weirdest jobs, best accents, relationship with Lucy Lawless, Onehunga up-bringing and the loss of her father, Taika Waititi and the highs and lows of fame, Super City, Tom Sainsbury and so much more.
Madeline is one of the most entertaining – and coolest - guests we’ve had. Funny, thoughtful and a wicked storyteller this was one of our favs – and we can’t wait for you to hear it.
Listen on iheart or wherever you get your podcasts from, or watch the video on Youtube. A huge thanks to those supporting the show on patreon for the cost of a cup of coffee a month, to get involved head to Between Two Beers.com.
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7/30/2023 • 1 hour, 52 minutes, 26 seconds
HAMBASSADORS #2: Steve Gets Scammed, Out-Celeb’ing Brodie Kane, Which Guests are Mates?
On the latest episode of Hambassadors we chat about Steve getting scammed, our fashion wars, out celeb’ing Brodie Kane, and answer all of your burning questions.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
7/25/2023 • 28 minutes, 50 seconds
Duane Dalton Reflects on Tania Dalton’s Passing, Bringing Pita Pit to NZ, and more!
On this episode of Between Two Beers we talk to Duane Dalton.
Duane was a New Zealand surf lifesaving and sprint kayak rep who became the co-founder of the Pita Pit franchise in New Zealand. He was also married to Silver Ferns star Tania Dalton who tragically passed away from a brain aneurysm in 2017.
In this episode we talk about the tricky early days with Pita Pit and how he brought it to NZ, the transition from PE teacher to business owner, his fairytale grassroots rugby story and the success of the Tania Dalton foundation.
We also talk about the devastating loss of Tania and the tools he used to deal with that trauma and raise three brilliant kids who are now all exceptionally talented athletes and top humans. Duane was recommended to us as part of our low-key legends series, and we're so thankful we get to share his story. Some parts of this conversation were incredibly vulnerable and difficult, but his messages and outlook on life in the wake of tragedy - are equally as important. There’s no blueprint to follow when dealing with loss and trauma, but the way Duane has handled himself, his business and his family across the last six years is inspirational. You’ll get a lot from this ep, Duano is a legend.
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7/23/2023 • 1 hour, 30 minutes, 15 seconds
Josh Kronfeld: Legendary All Blacks Career, Chaos at the '95 World Cup, Life After Rugby (Re-Release)
On this episode of Between Two Beers, we’re rewinding the clock back to April of 2022 when we sat down with Josh Kronfeld. Josh is an All Blacks legend who played at two Rugby World Cups across 54 games for the All Blacks and was a cult hero in Dunedin, where he played over 100 games for Otago and the Highlanders.
In this episode we talk about what it was really like to play with and against Jonah ,destroying his downstairs operation on the Crowd Goes Wild, how he avoided food poisoning at the 95 World Cup, what it was like playing in NZ’s first Super Rugby season, why schoolboy rugby is better than All Blacks rugby, how he won consecutive seasons of Celebrity Treasure Island and much, much more. Josh is not your average rugby player. He’s a trained physio, he surfs, he paints, he’s a reporter for Crowd Goes Wild, he restores Classic Cars, he’s a family man, and a deep thinker.
And this was a really fun ep - that we wanted to re-share with our new listeners.
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7/16/2023 • 1 hour, 54 minutes, 11 seconds
Steve Dunstan: How Huffer Became an Iconic NZ Brand
On this episode of Between Two Beers we talk to Steve Dunstan.
Steve is the Brand Director and co-founder of Huffer, one of New Zealand’s most loved fashion brands. He started the company 26 years ago, as a 21-year old and has grown it into a multi-faceted business with 12 stores across New Zealand and one in Melbourne.
In this episode we talk about the humble beginnings of the Huffer story, snowboard stunts and starring in million-dollar ads, sponsoring Hayley Holt and the Huffer House of Horrors, the Orlando Bloom moment in front of 200,000 people in Wellington, Taking on America, hitting rock bottom and nearly losing it all and the 10-year salvage mission that got the brand back to where it is today.
Steve is a Kiwi icon, a thoughtful, humble, optimistic winner, who’s epic story of business success is as entertaining as it is inspiring.
Listen on iheart or wherever you get your podcasts from, or watch the video on Youtube. A huge thanks to those supporting the show on patreon for the cost of a cup of coffee a month, to get involved head to Between Two Beers.com. Also follow us on Insta and Tik Tok where we cut up all the best video clips from each episode – and join our private Facebook group Hambassadors, to chat with our community about the show.
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7/9/2023 • 1 hour, 49 minutes, 15 seconds
Jeremy Wells: From Newsboy to Seven Sharp Host, Starting The ACC, Troubled Childhood, and more!
On this episode of Between Two Beers we talk to Jeremy Wells.
Jeremy is one of New Zealand’s best and highest profile broadcasters. Five days a week he co-hosts the Matt and Jerry breakfast radio show on Hauraki, and Seven Sharp on TVNZ, and on weekends can often be heard commentating sport with the Alternative Commentary Collective.
In this episode we talk about the opportunity cost of having such a busy work schedule, why getting expelled from school was the lowest point of his life, the magical aura of Mikie Havoc and Newsboy, working with Hilary Barry and Matt Heath, the irony of replacing Mike Hosking and what the future holds.
Jeremy’s style of broadcast and comedic timing was a huge influence for us growing up. You might be able to tell but we were pretty excited for this one – and had big expectations. And Jeremy delivered. You’ll love this.
Listen on iheart or wherever you get your podcasts from, or watch the video on Youtube. A huge thanks to those supporting the show on patreon for the cost of a cup of coffee a month, to get involved head to Between Two Beers.com. Also follow us on Insta and Tik Tok where we cut up all the best video clips from each episode – and join our private Facebook group Hambassadors, to chat with our community about the show.
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7/2/2023 • 1 hour, 38 minutes, 32 seconds
HAMBASSADORS 001: Interviewing a Sexologist, BTS of Chris Cairns, And Your Q's Answered!
BIG NEWS! The first episode of our new show ‘HAMBASSADORS’ is officially live! 🗣
Find out the aftermath of our Morgan Penn Sexologist episode, how we scored our Chris Cairns interview, why Steven is having so many kids… and a LOT more.
Want us to cover anything else in our next episode? Let us know - our DMs are always open. 💌See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
6/27/2023 • 23 minutes, 13 seconds
Jordan Watson aka How to Dad: Behind the Scenes of Viral Success
On this episode of Between Two Beers we talk to Jordan Watson.
You will likely know Jordan as How to Dad - one of New Zealand’s biggest social media stars, with his Youtube channel and Facebook account boasting a combined 3.5 million followers.
It all started eight years ago when he sent a video demonstrating how to hold a baby to a soon-to-be-dad friend. Overnight the clip went viral, Watson ended up quitting his day job to focus on the How To Dad series, and has now racked up more than 172 million video views on YouTube and 250 million views on Facebook.
In this episode we talk about the realities of life as a content creator, what really happens when a video goes viral, why he left Jono and Ben and the process of ‘going pro’, managing his brand, the best stories from the road, his expanding business empire and much, much more.
Jordan’s work ethic and creative brain have turned him into a modern-day Kiwi icon and it's easy to see why he’s been so successful. This was a fascinating look at how someone created a world of opportunity, business, and unbelievable reach from an idea. You’ll love this one.
Listen on iheart or wherever you get your podcasts from, or watch the video on Youtube. A huge thanks to those supporting the show on patreon for the cost of a cup of coffee a month, to get involved head to Between Two Beers.com. Also follow us on Insta and Tik Tok where we cut up all the best video clips from each episode – and join our private Facebook group Hambassadors, to chat with our community about each episode.
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6/25/2023 • 1 hour, 30 minutes, 5 seconds
Rebekah Stott: How I kicked cancer and carried on
On this episode of Between Two Beers we talk to Rebekah Stott.
Stott is a Football Fern, who will be one of her side's most important players when they host the Women’s World Cup in NZ in July.
Her professional football journey has been quite remarkable; ten different teams across four countries, two World Cups and two Olympics.. but her story transcends sport.
In June 2020 Stott noticed a lump above her collarbone and soon after was diagnosed with Stage 3 Hodgkin’s lymphoma, a type of cancer that would turn her world upside down.
But 294 days after her diagnosis was confirmed, she returned to the footy field – beating the disease and returning to the professional game.
In this ep we talk about how she dealt with her life-changing diagnoses, her thoughts on mortality and how she stayed positive, her epic return to professional football and the path that got her there, meeting Neymar, kissing Russell Brand, all her thoughts on the upcoming World Cup and much, much more.
Stott is an exceptional role model for anyone suffering adversity in life. Her upbeat approach to life and illness is both inspiring and uplifting, and it's easy to see why she’s so widely loved by everyone in the football community.
Listen on iheart or wherever you get your podcasts from, or watch the video on Youtube. A huge thanks to those supporting the show on patreon for the cost of a cup of coffee a month, to get involved head to Between Two Beers.com. Also follow us on Insta and Tik Tok where we cut up all the best video clips from each episode – and join our private Facebook group Hambassadors, to chat with our community about each episode.
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6/18/2023 • 1 hour, 17 minutes, 55 seconds
Izzy Whitley: How I built a $30m business at 28
On this episode of Between Two Beers we talk to Izzy Whitley. Izzy is one of New Zealand’s most successful, self-made men under 30. He’s 28, has founded two businesses that do over $30 million a year in revenue and has the world at his feet. But things weren’t always so smooth. In this episode we work through his incredible rise; from his humble beginnings in Gisborne to leaving home at 16 and dropping out of uni. At the age of 21 he had lost his father to suicide, suffered two heart attacks himself, and was dealing with his trauma, alone, with nothing, in an Auckland hospital. That’s when he had the idea to start Auckland labour hire, by contracting himself out to construction sites.
The sevens years since have been a whirlwind of success and hard work. Auckland labour hire is now Aotearoa labor hire, with 11 branches around the country and a short-term goal of $100 million in annual revenue.
Izzy’s story is captivating and his mindset is inspirational. We both left this recording quite blown away. His approach to life, adversity and using his time – is just different... and is probably the most dialled in under 30 we’ve ever spoken too. You’re going to love this one.
Listen on iheart or wherever you get your podcasts from, or watch the video on Youtube. A huge thanks to those supporting the show on patreon for the cost of a cup of coffee a month, to get involved head to Between Two Beers.com. Also follow us on Insta and Tik Tok where we cut up all the best video clips from each episode – and join our private Facebook group Hambassadors, to chat with our community about each episode.
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6/11/2023 • 1 hour, 29 minutes, 35 seconds
Tom Sainsbury: Man of many faces
On this episode of Between Two Beers we talk to Tom Sainsbury.
Tom is one of NZ’s most popular creative minds. He’s starred on TV shows like Wellington Paranormal, Shortland Street, and Educators, written over 50 plays, and is widely loved for his short-form comedy videos, where he satirises Kiwi characters. He’s also just dipped his feet in the podcast game – and in March released his true crime mockumentary Smalltown Scandal.
In this episode we chart Tom’s rise from ‘Snapchat Guy’ to househould name, courting controversy and his relationship with Paula Bennett, the time he entered the race to become Auckland mayor, his weirdest jobs, dream dinner party, approach to monetizing his content and much, much more.
Tom might just be the most loved man in Kiwi comedy – and it’s easy to see why. He’s gentle, authentic, incredibly observant and hilarious – and his output of creative work will blow you away. You’ll love this one.
Listen on iheart or wherever you get your podcasts from, or watch the video on Youtube. A huge thanks to those supporting the show on patreon for the cost of a cup of coffee a month, to get involved head to Between Two Beers.com.
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6/4/2023 • 1 hour, 30 minutes, 55 seconds
Blair Tuke: Epic stories from the ocean (re-release)
On this episode of Between Two Beers we’re rewinding the clock back a year to when we sat down with Blair Tuke.
Tuke is one of New Zealand’s most successful and best sportsmen. He’s won an Olympic gold medal and two silvers, two America’s Cups, six 49er World Championships and with teammate Peter Burling, was named NZ sports team of the year in 2017. In this episode we talk about his dubious hole-in-one on a par four in Arrowtown, why Tana Umaga, Christian Cullen and Dom Harvey stayed at his house when he was 10, the brutal realities of the round-the-world Ocean race, working four hours on four hours off for 23 days, his relationship with Burling, the best stories from the Olympics, the journey to the top of Team NZ, and much more. This was a really cool one that we wanted to re-share with our new listeners. We'd never met Blair before this, but he came bouncing into the studios with the most upbeat, positive, fun attitude, and really gave us everything with his thoughtful answers and willingness to share.
Listen on iheart or wherevers you get your podcasts from, or watch the video on Youtube. A huge thanks to those supporting the show on patreon for the cost of a cup of coffee a month, to get involved head to Between Two Beers.com. Also follow us on Insta and Tik Tok where we cut up all the best video clips from each episode.
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5/28/2023 • 1 hour, 53 minutes
Cori Gonzalez-Macuer: Finding the bright side of darkness
On this episode of Between Two Beers we talk to Cori Gonzalez-Macuer.
Cori is a Kiwi comedian who has been performing his unique brand of self-deprecating, observational and deadpan humour since 2003.
He was one of the stars of Taika Waititi’s breakout comedy What We Do In The Shadows, a writer for Jono and Ben and Wellington Paranormal and a regular on 7 Days. He's won the Billy T James Award, performed his standup all over the world and is widely recognised as one of NZ’s best comedic minds. In this episode we talk about being Adrian Brody’s stunt double and working with Jack Black, flatting with Ben Hurley and their hip-hop group, corporate gigs, 7 Days and touring and how fatherhood has changed him.
This episode also deals with themes of mental health. Cori tragically lost his dad in 2013 to suicide and has wrestled with feelings of blame, guilt, and pain since his passing. We talk through the dark – and the light, and hear Cori’s story in full. We’re so grateful of Cori being so vulnerable in sharing his life with us – his messages to those going through tough times are incredibly powerful.
This episode was brought to you from the Export Beer garden studio. Enjoy. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
5/21/2023 • 1 hour, 18 minutes, 24 seconds
Jono Ridler: The inside story of NZ's longest swim
On this episode of Between Two Beers we talk to Jono Riddler.
Jono is the general manager of a Truck Transportation business in Auckland – and on the side does marathon swimming.
Last week he set a new record for NZ’s longest swim, after making it to Campbell’s Bay on Auckland’s North Shore on Wednesday night after he set off from Aotea Great Barrier Island on Tuesday morning.
Jono spent over 33 hours in the water and swum just short of 100kms, more than doubling his previous best ultra-marathon swim distance.
In this episode we talk about his epic swim, why he did it and the reaction he received, what the training looked like, the hallucinations he had after 80kms, why he *lost is* at his crew at one point, hour-long ice baths and ice-swimming, pushing your limits and so much more.
The way Jono created a vision for himself, which seems impossible to most, then pulled it off – captured the imagination of the nation – and his story shows the potential of what's achievable with the right mindset.
Listen on iheart or wherever you get your podcasts from, or watch the video on Youtube. A huge thanks to those supporting the show on Patreon for the cost of a cup of coffee a month, to get involved head to Between Two Beers.com. And While you’re there signup to our new weekly newsletter which has behind-the-scenes recaps of each episode.
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5/14/2023 • 1 hour, 39 minutes, 47 seconds
Fletch and Vaughan: 19 years at the top of Kiwi radio
Fletch and Vaughan sit atop of the pyramid of radio personalities in New Zealand and are considered radio royalty in the country having worked together for 19 years across two major stations.
Together with comedian Hayley Sproull, they currently host one of the country’s most popular radio shows on ZM, which is also repurposed as a podcast and downloaded nearly 500,000 times each month.
Fletch is a guru on all things travel and cat-related; Vaughan is the loveable Dad of the team who spends his days in the shed tinkering with things and definitely not crying about how proud he is of two adorable girls.
Fletch and Vaughan never punch down and their chat was full of good vibes and loud laughs!
Audio Show notes | Episode 125 | Fletch & Vaughan
2:04: Our first foursome since Jono and Ben
3:31: Hambassador chat with Vaughan
6:59: Some thoughts on Fletch from Morgan the Sexologist
11:38: Quick reflections on 19 years of work
13:53: The coming together of Fletch and Vaughan
20:29: The shift from stunt-based radio to a conversational show
24:22: The looseness of afternoon radio
33:45: Moving to ZM
43:03: From afternoon drive to breakfast radio
49:23: Fletch: The best in the game
54:57: The art of never punching down
59:12: Audience engagement and fan interactions
1:03:56: Vaughan’s dad journey
1:09:11: The ratings game
1:12:05: Looking ahead (and is Hayley Sproull still busy)
1:15:11: Last words from Steve, Seamus, Fletch and VaughanSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
5/7/2023 • 1 hour, 17 minutes, 43 seconds
Morgan Penn: Let's talk about sex
On this episode of Between Two Beers we talk to Morgan Penn.
Morgan is a somatic sexologist and was the star of the wildly popular podcast ‘The Trainee Sexologist’, and has just released her chart-topping new one called Sex.Life.
After a 15-year career in radio, Morgan made the transition into sexology in 2019, and it’s been a pretty interesting ride since.
Her job now is to help people find empowerment by reconnecting to their body and sexuality and to help people have mind blowing sex with themselves and others.
As you may have been able to gather, this is not a good one to listen to around the kids, it gets pretty graphic in patches and covers a wide and varied range of sexual themes.
We talk about the cultural ripple effect of Morgan’s breakout podcast, why she walked away from a senior radio career, sex advice for men, genital naming, the role of shame in sex, dating as a sexologist, myth busting, squirting, her new pod and so much more.
Morgan is a top-tier guest, fun, authentic, open and with so much good knowledge to share. We both loved this one – and if you do too, make sure to check out her epic new podcast Sex.Life. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
4/30/2023 • 1 hour, 30 minutes, 11 seconds
Mea Motu: Fighting back from darkness
On this episode of Between Two Beers we talk to Mea Motu.
Mea is a boxer with a 15-0 professional record and has accumulated New Zealand titles in lightweight, super-lightweight, featherweight and super-featherweight. She’s conquered NZ boxing and is now ready to take on the world.
In this episode we talk about being the first woman to headline a Fight For LIfe fight night, juggling her five kids with her training, the power of Peach boxing and why an eight-year-old does most of her pad work, and where her drive and determination comes from.
But her path to the top was anything but smooth.
This episode also deals with themes of domestic violence. Mea shared some of the harrowing detail of how she literally fought for her life through an abusive relationship. The story of what she’s been through, how she found the courage and strength to fight through it, and coming out the other side on the brink of world title, is incredibly powerful.
It was a challenging and necessary conversation, with the aim to empower anyone stuck in a similar situation. The emotion of her journey overwhelmed me at the end of this one. Mea is such a bubbly, fun, special human and her message so strong. Thank you for coming on with us and being so vulnerable. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
4/23/2023 • 1 hour, 22 minutes, 17 seconds
Detective Inspector Scott Beard: Finding happiness through tragedy
On this episode of Between Two Beers we talk to Detective Inspector Scott Beard.Scott is one of New Zealand’s best-known investigators and is still at the top of his game after 42 years on the force.He has worked on a number of high-profile cases throughout his career but is best known for leading the investigation into Grace Millane’s murder. The search gripped hearts and minds in New Zealand and thrust Scott into the international spotlight. In this episode we talk about his experiences through the 1981 Springboks tour, The 1984 Queen Street riots, David Tamahere and the murder of the Swedish tourists labelled Operation Stockholm, The Grace Millane investigation and the hardest press conference of his career, his cancer battle, training at the FBI Academy, what makes a good leader, and how he uses football to escape.Despite dealing with death and tragedy on a regular basis, Scott’s outlook on life, his positive energy and his belief in helping the community is super inspiring and makes this one a compelling listen.Listen on iheart or wherevers you get your podcasts from. A huge thanks to those supporting the show on patreon for the cost of a cup of coffee a month, to get involved head to Between Two Beers.com. And While you’re there signup to our new weekly newsletter which has behind the scenes recaps of each episode. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
4/16/2023 • 1 hour, 35 minutes, 8 seconds
Example: 16 years at the top of global music
On this episode of Between Two Beers we talk to Elliot Gleave.
Elliot is best known as his stage name, Example, and is a musical artist, producer, writer and rapper, who has been leading the way in the music industry for the last 16 years. Example is a genuine worldwide superstar and has been the frontman of multiple generations, bridging the gaps between electronic, rap, and pop, with his chart-topping singles, sell-out tours, and multiple platinum records. But despite all that, he comes across as an ordinary bloke and gave us such a memorable episode.
We talked about playing 1360 gigs across 62 countries, The power of Glastonbury, the time he got invited to play tennis at Buckingham Palace, how he deals with fame, why he moved to Australia, his approach to creating music in 2023, life hacks, parenting and much, much more.
This one was a lot of fun and we’re incredibly grateful Elliott gave us so much of his time while in New Zealand.
Listen on iheart or wherever you get your podcasts from, or watch the video on Youtube. A huge thanks to those supporting the show on Patreon for the cost of a cup of coffee a month, to get involved head to Between Two Beers.com. And While you’re there signup to our new weekly newsletter which has behind the scenes recaps of each episode.
This episode was brought to you from the Export Beer garden studio. Enjoy. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
4/9/2023 • 1 hour, 21 minutes, 58 seconds
David Galbraith: The ghost in the machine
On this episode of Between Two Beers we talk to David Galbraith.
David is a world renowned mind coach, who specialises in performance psychology in sport and business.
A former clinical psychologist for over 20 years DG is a mind coach to Lisa Carrington, Sarah Walker and Laura Langman, the performance psychologist for the Japanese Rugby team, the mind coach for the All Blacks sevens team and was with the Chiefs for 11 years when they won back to back Super Rugby titles.
In this episode we talk about being the ghost in the machine, the difference between good and elite coaches, the accident his then two-year-old daughter had which changed his outlook on parenting and his career, why Wayne Smith heckled him when they first met, life lessons from working in Japan, and why expressing your true self leads to a happier life.
David is super highly regarded in NZ sport circles. He talks the talk, and walks the walk... which is why he gets so much respect. He works with so many top athletes in NZ and around the world and has such a thoughtful, unique outlook on life.
This episode was brought to you from the Export Beer garden studio. Enjoy.
Show notes | Episode 120 | David Galbraith
1:50: Hambassador chat
4:13: The ghost in the machine
11:30: 15 attempts to get into clinical psychology
21:58: Cake and icing: how you define success
31:42: How DG works with his clients
44:01: Working with elite coaches: Wayne Smith, Dave Rennie, Jamie Joseph
55:03: Back-to-back Super Rugby Championships with the Chiefs
1:04:00: Lessons from Japan
1:10:36: Transferring skills from sport to business
1:16:25: Reflection and living inside outSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
4/2/2023 • 1 hour, 25 minutes, 12 seconds
Laura McGoldrick: My life in the spotlight (re-release)
On this episode of Between Two Beers we’re rewinding the clock back to October of 2021 when we sat down with Laura McGoldrick.
Laura is a broadcaster, presenter, radio host, MC and part time actress and one of the most popular faces on television in New Zealand.
She has been a host of the Cricket Show, Holden Golf World, NZ Herald Focus as well as most of Sky’s major sporting events, and held breakfast radio rolls at Hauraki and the Hits. She’s also married to Black Caps star Martin Guptill.
In this episode we talk about how Laura navigated her post-match SKy TV commitments after watching her husband’s heartbreak following the Cricket World Cup final, Growing up with her mum – the super agent, working with Stephen Colbert, the differences between working on Hauraki with Matt and Jerry and the Hits with Toni and Sam and the hardest moments across her career at Sky TV.
Laura is exceptional company. Funny, witty, full of energy and an engaging storyteller. This was a really memorable episode for us. It was recorded during lockdown, so the audio is a little patchy in places and we’ve edited out some of the painful isolation chat from the start of the ep.
Listen on iheart or wherever you get your podcasts from, or watch the video on Youtube. A huge thanks to those supporting the show on patreon for the cost of a cup of coffee a month, to get involved head to Between Two Beers.com. And While you’re there signup to our new weekly newsletter which has behind the scenes recaps of each episode.
This episode was brought to you from the Export Beer garden studio. Enjoy.
Show notes:
1:50: Who am I? “I took her to my school leavers’ ball. She’s my best mate’s sister and it was a top notch night. But I think she danced with my dad more than me though L”
4:34: Reflections on the Cricket World Cup Super Over from a broadcast and partner point-of-view and the aftermath on the pitch
16:53: Back to 2015 and doubling down on Cricket World Cup disappointment
19:10: Meeting Guppy for the first time on The Cricket Show
22:30: Growing up in Christchurch with her dad running Jade Stadium and her mum the super-agent
28:45: Not just athletes: Jason Gunn, Phillip Leishman and acting 31:58: The Stephen Colbert experience 37:44: Meeting Meghan Markle
42:38: Cutting her teeth on The Cricket Show and
47:05: Life in front of the camera 50:29: Live events: the Dame Valerie Adams gold medal ceremony and covering the Olympic Games 55:04: An Emma Twigg interlude
58:12: Radio: Laura’s time at Radio Hauraki and moving into The Hits
1:04:04: The challenges of being a women in a male-dominated field
1:10:01: The Pakistan tour and being a partner of a cricketer
1:13:35: Laura’s process for MCing and hosting the Cricket World Cup opening ceremony
1:18:09: The Harlem Globetrotters of cricket
1:21:23: Where is the journey heading?
1:22:50: Last words from Steven, Seamus and LauraSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
3/26/2023 • 1 hour, 25 minutes, 14 seconds
Awen Guttenbeil: Lessons from my island
On this episode of Between Two Beers we talk to Awen Gutenbeil.
You may know Awen as one of New Zealand’s greatest rugby league players, with 170 caps for the Warriors over a professional career that spanned 15 years. What you might not know, is that in the first five years of his career he spent more time under general anesthetic then he did on the field.
In this episode we talk about the mental toll of 60 hours under GA and how he got his career back on track, the hustle, grind and drive to set up his thriving business career post footy, reflections on the Warriors’ most famous scraps, the best end of year trip stories, why he didn’t fancy a career as a broadcaster, meeting the queen, what he’s learned as a dad, golf, what the next chapter looks like and much much more.
This ep was really special. Awen is such an eloquent speaker with a lifetime of important lessons to share. We asked him some ‘big picture’ questions at the end, and the impromptu, thoughtful, articulate answers blew us away. You'll love this one. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
3/19/2023 • 1 hour, 54 minutes, 26 seconds
Guyon Espiner: Mastering the art of the interview
On this episode of Between Two Beers we talk to Guyon Espiner.
Guyon is one of New Zealand’s most highly respected journalists and has worked in print, radio and television for more than 20 years, as a reporter, political editor and anchor.
He has reported on trade from China, on war from Afghanistan, on politics from Washington, and on climate change from Antarctica.
He currently works at Radio New Zealand as an investigative journalist and has just released his new book THE DRINKING GAME – which looks at how big business, the media and politicians shape the way we drink.
In this episode we talk about Guyon’s friendship and rivalry with Duncan Garner, what life is really like in the parliamentary press gallery, why he crossed the floor from TVNZ to TV3, the art of interviewing politicians, his best Winston Peters drinking story – and their most memorable interview and his new book and why he turned away from the booze.
This was a cracking ep. Guyon is sharp, worldly and insightful and his experiences and stories from two decades in New Zealand journalism would rival anyone in the country. You’ll love this one.
Listen on iheart or wherevers you get your podcasts from, or watch the video on Youtube. A huge thanks to those supporting the show on patreon for the cost of a cup of coffee a month, to get involved head to Between Two Beers.com. And While you’re there signup to our new weekly newsletter which has behind the scenes recaps of each episode.
Show notes | Episode 118 | Guyon Espiner
1:30: The Drinking Game and being “sober curious”
6:14: Cricket and Paddy Gower
10:13: Guyon Espiner v Duncan Garner
14:08: Life in the parliamentary press gallery
20:03: Is anything genuinely off the record?
22:16: Crossing the floor from TVNZ to TV3
24:15: Winston Peters
34:01: The art of interviewing politicians
41:25: Morning Report and Radio New Zealand
45:47: Stepping back into investigative journalism
53:15: The decision to stop drinking
1:00:20: Having the ugly conversation with your mates
1:06:30: The Te Reo journey
1:10:10: Running as a mental health pillarSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
3/12/2023 • 1 hour, 17 minutes, 40 seconds
Guy Williams: The wild world of Kiwi comedy
On this episode of Between Two Beers we talk to Guy Williams.
Guy is one of New Zealand’s best-known comedians who has worked on many of New Zealand’s biggest TV shows.
He was a co-host on Jono and Ben, a radio DJ at The Edge, featured on shows like Come Dine With Me, The Extra Factor and Taskmaster and for the last four years has been working on his critically acclaimed show New Zealand Today.
In this one we talk about bad names for podcasts, why he was the worst ever contestant on Taskmaster, what its really like to be the gag-man at serious sport press conferences, his complicated relationship with Sonny Bill Williams, interviewing the Mongrol Mob, Patrick and Roy, why New Zealand Today has been so popular and much, much more.
Guy is a tornado of energy, noise and good chat. This was really fun, so many entertaining stories mixed with moments of real introspection. You’ll love this one. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
3/5/2023 • 1 hour, 49 minutes, 28 seconds
Lisa Carrington: Inside the mind of a champion
On this episode of Between two Beers we talk to Dame Lisa Carrington.
Lisa is New Zealand’s most successful Olympian of all time with five Olympic gold medals in the sprint Kayak, one bronze and 12 World Championship titles.
For over a decade, Lisa has been the best in the world at her sport and after listening to this conversation it will become clear why. We go deep inside the mind of a champion, and talk about her relationship with self-doubt and high performance, why she hasn’t missed training in 13 years, and how she deals with race-day pressure. We also hear about her passport slip-ups, gym playlists, superstitions, the power of journalling, and all the best and most entertaining stories from a life on the road.
Seamus and I were mesmerized by this chat in places. It's so rare you get such an extended period of time to probe away at the inner workings of the very best in the world, and Lisa’s discipline, thought process, and ability to articulate how she succeeds was really, really cool.
Show notes | Episode 116 | Dame Lisa Carrington
2:05: Halberg Awards, table seating, and wardrobe malfunctions
6:40: A loose circle: gym playlists, red sunglasses, claiming the master bedroom
12:38: Lisa and her passport
18:50: Consistency
20:52: The early years in Whakatane
29:13: “…she uses kayaking to be a better person…”
33:08: Lisa’s attitude to training
40:30: Inside the mind of a champion: Tokyo 2021
47:08: Dealing with self-doubt
52:23: Winning the gold medal to become New Zealand’s most decorated Olympian
55:31: Lisa on coaching and building on your foundations
1:01:42: The power of journaling
1:04:24: Covid chat
1:08:44: What’s next?
1:10:19: Being in the hurt locker
1:14:11: A night out after the gold medal in London
1:18:55: Fame (here and abroad)
1:22:22: Recognising accolades
1:26:06: Last words from Steve, Seamus and LisaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
2/26/2023 • 1 hour, 29 minutes, 20 seconds
Paddy Gower: This is the f***in news (re-release)
On this episode of Between Two Beers we’re rewinding the clock back to September of 2021 when we sat down with Paddy Gower.
Paddy is one of New Zealand’s most senior journalists with over 22 years in all forms of journalism. He’s been newshub’s political editor, an award-winning investigative journalist in print and broadcasting – has covered warzones and major world events, has hosted leaders debates and is a documentary maker raising issues of national signficance. But despite all this, by his own admission – he's most well known for saying ‘This is the fuckin news” and smoking weed on TV.
In this episode we find out why that is, what I experienced when I went to a Hamilton pub with Paddy after midnight, how All Black Conrad Smith helped him prepare for the leaders debate, the time he left his passport behind when travelling with the prime minister in Iraq, the breakdown that led to him quitting as Newshub Political editor, the horror interview he’ll never forget and a whole lot more.
Paddy is a deep thinker and was a joy to share company with. He’s authentic, vulnerable, honest and entertaining. This was one of our most memorable earlier episodes, and wanted to share with our new audience. It should be noted that this was also recorded a few months before Paddy turned away from booze. So keep that in mind when you hear a few references to alcohol.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
2/19/2023 • 1 hour, 52 minutes, 37 seconds
Marc Ellis: How to walk with Kings
On this episode of Between Two Beers, we talk to Marc Ellis.
Marc has done enough in his life to have an episode dedicated to each chapter.
He played rugby for Otago, North Harbour, Blues, Highlanders and All Blacks and League for the Warriors and Kiwis, founded Charlie’s juice company – which after 10 years he sold to Asahi for $129 million, and was one of New Zealand’s top television stars for over a decade.
In this episode we talk about what it was like to walk away with $18 million after selling Charlie’s - and why he decided to keep working, the best stories from university in Dunedin and touring with the All Blacks, why he thinks he was poisoned before the 1995 Rugby World Cup final, the time he was nearly killed by a bowling machine, the glory days with Ridgey, his favourite moments from Sports Café, what he’s doing now and much much more.
Marc was our dream guest – and he delivered. Seamus and I grew up watching his unpredictable brand of hijinx and gags on TV, and his infectiously positive and fun personality rubbed off on us both. But behind the laughs and wild stories is an incredibly driven, successful, thoughtful guy and we had so much fun working through his full story. You'll love this one.
Show notes | Episode 115 | Marc Ellis
Show notes | Episode 115 | Marc Ellis
2:14: A pinch yourself moment and a local speak easy
4:21: That time Marc nearly killed himself alone with a bowling machine
7:15: The Human Cannonball, the boat, and the Round Lake Taupo cycle
15:15: The last ten years of Marc Ellis
16:57: Macca at high school
19:43: The King of Otago University
22:49: Scarfie hijinks
25:01: Otago rugby and All Blacks tours
30:01: “Suzie” at the 1995 Rugby World Cup
33:38: Setting up Charlies
39:34: The decision to sell Charlies
46:12: The Warriors, Jonah, and JK
52:34: Sports Café
1:03:59: Matthew Ridge and Marc Ellis
1:11:21: Working on More FM after becoming a multi-millionaire
1:15:32: The Rangitoto stunt
1:19:13: Media Blanco and life now
1:21:35: Fame and anonymity
1:22:49: Advice from a father to a son
1:29:40: Last words from Steve, Seamus and MarcSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
2/12/2023 • 1 hour, 33 minutes, 9 seconds
Dave Wood: How to stay calm under pressure
On this episode of Between Two Beers we talk to Dave Wood.
Dave is a human performance specialist who works with some of the world’s most elite athletes to make them better at their job.
He is currently Israel Adesanya’s breathing and mindset coach, and in a recent interview Adesanya said Wood ‘opened his eyes’ to the power of breathwork.
Wood is now one of the most in-demand integrated health specialists in Australasia and has worked with Blair Tuke, Ella Williams, Kai Kara France – and one of Germany’s top footballers - but the story of how he got to the top might be as remarkable as his quick rise.
We talk about his debilitating hip injury, the failed attempts at rehab through traditional sources - and hitting rock bottom. Then The drive, desire and success of figuring a solution out on his own – and how he started teaching it to others - while working as an intensive care paramedic.
Dave doesn’t normally do these types of interviews – and we feel grateful he gave us so much. We delved deep into his back story – and he was incredibly open about some of the most challenging moments in his life. He teaches stress mitigation, and being ‘calm under pressure’ and some of his ‘real world’ examples of what he’s been through – and travel stories - will blow you away.
This was a cracker ep and it’s easy to see why Dave has risen to the top of his field. He’s relatable, he's real, he’s whip-smart and has lived one hell of a life. You’ll love this one.
Listen on iheart or wherevers you get your podcasts from, and check you podcast app for show notes. You can watch the video of this one on Youtube. A huge thanks to those supporting the show on patreon for the cost of a cup of coffee a month, to get involved head to Between Two Beers.com.
This episode was brought to you from the Export Beer garden studio. Enjoy.
Show notes | Episode 114 | Dave Wood
1:38: The stress (or not) of the Auckland floods
3:43: The sausage story
8:14: The makings of Dave Wood
13:11: “I don’t want to go on a holiday, I want to challenge myself”
15:17: Left at sea in Bali
19:04: A culmination of experiences
21:11: Living in a lighthouse on the Andaman Islands
31:09: Seven days with a camel
36:23: Travel hardships in Venezuela
44:21: Reinventing himself as an Intensive Care Paramedic
49:57: Dealing with chronic pain: The creation of integrated training
57:12: Overcoming obstacles
59:33: From start up to working with Israel Adesanya
1:05:14: From athletes to corporates
1:10:17: A German football interlude
1:11:35: The importance of breathing
1:20:15: Wim Hof and cold showers
1:25:11: Can you read people’s stress levels?
1:29:27: The five pillars of health
1:34:27: The importance of the natural environment
1:37:38: Manifestation
1:40:07: Last words from Steve, Seamus and DaveSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
2/5/2023 • 1 hour, 45 minutes, 43 seconds
Melodie Robinson: Blazing a trail to the top
Melodie is a Kiwi trailblazer, with a CV as good as any that have come across the BTB desk.
She’s won two rugby World Cups with the Black Ferns, worked at parliament as a journalist, was the first female rugby commentator in the world, perfected her craft across 15 years at SKY before becoming a communications executive – and she is now TVNZ’s General Manager, Sport and Events.
She also has an MBA from Auckland uni, two sons and is married to one of New Zealand’s best golf pros.
In this episode we talk about her most viral moments behind the microphone, young Mel the beauty queen who started scraps, how Murray Deaker helped kick start her career, the first time she met Ruby Tui, the current state of women’s sport coverage in NZ, the Black Ferns and so much more.
Mel was an incredible guest. She’s risen to the top of every field she’s entered – and done it with true authenticity. She’s the real –deal – you’ll love this one.
Show notes | Episode 113 | Melodie Robinson
1:52: The Black Clash
5:54: Could Mel make it on the Alternative Commentary Collective?
10:21: Reflecting on an impressive CV via an incredibly supportive mum and dad
16:00: Melodie on losing your parents (and Celebrity Treasure Island)
21:51: Cutting her teeth in the parliament press gallery
27:38: A beauty queen who started scraps on the footy field
31:32: Mel the scarfie: University and rugby in Otago
34:48: The early days of the Black Ferns
41:31: How a university research project set a career in motion
43:49: A phone call to Murray Deaker leads to an opportunity with Sky TV
49:44: Starting out at Sky TV
52:20: Behind the mic from a woman’s perspective
56:25: A Steve Walsh interlude
57:38: William and Kate’s wedding night
1:03:11: Women on screen: Laura McGoldrick, Rikki Swannell and Ruby Tui
1:09:11: The importance of appearance on TV
1:11:03: Losing two greats: Willie Lose and Va’aiga Tuigamala
1:17:05 The current state of women’s sports coverage and the Black Ferns win
1:24:37: Life as TVNZ General Manager Sports and Events
1:30:22: Steve’s wounding golf chat
1:32:04: Last words from Steve, Seamus and MelodieSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
1/29/2023 • 1 hour, 34 minutes, 10 seconds
Mike Minogue: The big second act
On this episode of Between Two Beers we talk to Mike Minogue.
Mike is a talented man. He’s a creator, writer, producer and actor, a star of the Big Show on Radio Hauraki, and a member of The Alternative Commentary Collective.
You also might have seen him in What We Do in The Shadows, or as the lead character Officer Minogue in the spinoff TV show Wellington Paranormal - and he’s recently produced the critically acclaimed film Coming Home in the Dark.
In this episode we talk about his late start in the arts, his emergency circumcision, his relationship with alcohol, the loss of his father, what it’s like working with Jermaine Clement, Taika Waititi, Leigh Hart and Jason Hoyte, the most pivotal moment in his career and all the best stories in between.
Mike is someone Seamus and I find hilarious. His persona, and comedic timing in his drive show with Jase and Keyzie is pitch perfect, but this ep reveals the depth of character behind the gags. We talk about some areas of his journey that he hasn’t aired before, and the thoughtfulness of his answers and the vulnerability he showed was inspiring. He’s a very impressive man, I think you’ll enjoy this one.
Also there’s one section where you might notice a few jumpy edits, for legal reasons we edited out the name of the show, but wanted to keep the important discussion around it. I think it still works.
This episode was brought to you from the Export Beer garden studio. Enjoy. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
1/22/2023 • 1 hour, 36 minutes, 7 seconds
Paul Henry: How I became NZ's biggest broadcaster
Paul Henry was one of New Zealand’s last great broadcasting celebrities.
He was a radio broadcaster through the 1980s, but it wasn’t until 2004 that he became a household name. His seven-year tenure on Breakfast saw ratings soar and he boasted the type of star power at his peak that just doesn’t exist in broadcasting anymore. But alongside the fame were a number of on-air controversies that followed his career.
Paul’s rise to fame and fortune is even more incredible when you chart his journey from abstract poverty in Bristol being raised by his single mother. Not to mention brushes with danger as a foreign correspondent that included being detained in Iraq, shot at in Cambodia, nearly lynched in the slums of Calcutta, threatened by the French navy at Mururoa and shelled in Bosnia.
But it all makes for a rich tapestry of life that we were lucky enough to hear about. Paul doesn’t normally do this sort of thing, so we’re feeling very lucky.
Show notes | Episode 111 | Paul Henry
1:52: Between Two Beers (with The Henry Gin)
7:40: Landing Paul Henry on the podcast: a story via Sudan and Osama bin Laden
17:37: “A rich tapestry of life”
21:05: Sodomy in Malaysia and being detained in Iraq
35:27: Life as a foreign correspondent
42:10: Jesus Boots and growing up in poverty
47:55: Lessons from mum and dad
55:59: The journey to becoming the biggest broadcaster in New Zealand
1:02:28: Reflections on breakfast television
1:08:09: Pushing the boundaries: the controversies of Paul Henry
1:17:18: Commercial whaling with Guy Williams
1:19:27: Life after broadcasting
1:22:43: Palm Springs, nudism and perineum sunning
1:26:42: What next for Paul Henry?
1:33:00: Interviews and the three-question method
1:36:08: Last words from Steve, Seamus and PaulSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
1/14/2023 • 1 hour, 40 minutes, 23 seconds
Eugene Bareman: Falling in love with fighting (re-release)
In this episode we’re rewinding the clock back to September 2021 when we sat down with Eugene Bareman. Eugene is New Zealand’s MMA mastermind. He’s a fighter - a multiple NZ champion in kickboxing, Jui Jitsu and MMA, A business owner - his Auckland gym City Kickboxing is widely regarded as one of the best MMA gyms in the world and a coach who has produced a group of fighters that have soared to the top of the UFC world. Eugene was named UFC coach of the years in 2019 and 2020 and has trained two UFC champions.
In this episode we talk about why he dropped out of school in fifth form, and the work ethic that saw him rebound to get an A bursary and go to law school, why he stopped fighting, and when he might start again, what really happens in the UFC locker rooms before a big fightnight, the first time he ever met Israel Adesanya and how he sees him differently to the rest of the world - and the best pranks seen at his City Kickboxing gym.
This was a really deep, insightful chat, and it’s so easy to see why and how Eugene has won the respect of so many around the world. His thirst to improve, worth ethic, humbleness, honesty and wisdom, makes this episode a cracker – even if you’re not an MMA fan.
Listen here on iheart or wherever you get your podcasts from and check your podcast app for show notes. A huge thanks to those donating to the cause on Patreon, if you want to support the show go to www.betweentwobeers.com.
This episode was brought to you from the Export Beer Garden studio.
Show notes | Eugene Bareman | Re-Release
2:00: Back at Massey High School: rugby, study, and the turning point of his life
12:51: Family fundamentals: Provide for your children, back yourself, learn from your mistakes
16:20: Law school and falling in love with fighting
22:20: Eugene Bareman: the fighter
26:20: On mental toughness
30:45: The ambition to get to 50 fights
34:40: Has this journey gone better than imagined?
37:33: Getting into the UFC
42:20: Israel Adesanya
51:34: Behind the scenes of a UFC fight night: locker room and between rounds
1:03:41: Reacting to losses in combat sports
1:10:21: City Kickboxing: Changing lives
1:17:39: The weight of responsibility
1:21:19: Hard work, pranks and banter
1:25:52: The role of the trainer in combat sports
1:31:05: Getting recognised overseas
1.33.01: Last words from Steven, Seamus and EugeneSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
1/8/2023 • 1 hour, 35 minutes, 47 seconds
Luke Kemeys: How the Boys Got Paid
On this episode of Between Two Beers we talk to Luke Kemeys.
Luke is a chartered accountant, a business advisor, and the driving force behind one of New Zealand’s most engaged Facebook Groups, Boys Get Paid.
BGP is New Zealand’s biggest punters club and while this episode does have some interesting chat about the horses, it also transcends racing, as Luke shares his experienced wisdom in building communities and business strategies that will work in the modern age.
In this episode Luke tells us how his Facebook Group which started with five people turned into a 21,000+ monster, how he helped turn his NextAdvisory accounting firm into a million-dollar business in five years, the power of Linkedin, relationship building and storytelling, the time he narrowly missed out on a $1million dollar collect at the races, all BGP’s most audacious bets and much much more.
Luke’s thirst to grow, improve and learn is inspiring. He’s a super sharp guy, doing big things in the community, with a million tales to tell. You’ll love this one.
Listen on iheart or wherever you get your podcasts from, and check your podcast app for show notes. You can watch the video of this one on Youtube. A huge thanks to those supporting the show on Patreon for the cost of a cup of coffee a month, to get involved head to BetweenTwoBeers.com.
This episode was brought to you from the Export Beer garden studio. Enjoy.
Show notes | Episode 110 | Luke Kemeys
1:39: An away game for Luke in the Export Beer Garden Studio
3:49: A business meeting over a couple of Fiji Gold’s in August 2017
8:26: Boys Get Paid: the beginning of the punters club journey
20:20: BGP and the power of community
28:15: Behind the scenes of building an app
34:20: BGP grandpa
37:19: Becoming more recognisable
39:46: Misconceptions of BGP and the race industry
46:13: The financial realities of BGP
51:39: Next Advisory: changing the accounting game
58:19: Using social media to connect with Rob Fyfe
1:03:31: Talking bets
1:16:34: Luke and his gambling habits
1:26:20: Luke on men’s health
1:28:40: Last words from Steve, Seamus and LukeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
1/1/2023 • 1 hour, 32 minutes, 39 seconds
Our fav bits: The best of BTB entertainment in 2022
In this 'best of entertainment 2022' compilation, we pick out a bunch of our favourite snippets from our favourite episodes with non-sporting guests across the year.
Included are Jack Tame, Jason Hoyte, Hayley Sproull, Chris Parker, PJ Harding, Mikey Havoc, Dom Harvey, Brodie Kane, Mitch James, Petra Bagust, Lucy Blakiston and Jono and Ben.
Show notes | Episode 109 | Best of Entertainment
0:28: Best of 2022 Entertainment
2:22: Jack Tame on the art of interviewing Winston Peters
7:09: Jason Hoyte on the absurdity of working with Leigh Hart and THAT scene with Nadia Lim
12:26: Lucy Blakiston on the Instagram growth from 1 million to 3 million followers
16:38: Jono and Ben open up on suicide
20:42: Hayley Sproull on the content of her DMs
26:15: Chris Parker’s goldfish story and auditioning for David Bain
33:05: The story behind the Gore gag with Mikey Havoc
41:58: Petra Bagust on being New Zealand’s most famous virgin
49:52: Mitch James’ early career as a busker
57:24: Brodie Kane on the transition from broadcast to podcast
1:07:30: The difficult act of working with your partner with Dom Harvey
1:14:22: PJ takes us on a tour of Seamus’ DMsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
12/24/2022 • 1 hour, 19 minutes, 16 seconds
Our favourite bits: The best of BTB sport in 2022
In this 'Best of sport 2022' compilation, we pick out a bunch of our favourite snippets from our favourite sport episodes across the year. Included are Dion Nash, Kendra Cocksedge, Ryan Fox, Shane Cameron, Ric Salizzo, Brad Smeele, Eliza McCartney, Ross Taylor, Daniel Kereopa, Lance Cairns, Grant Fox and Ruth Croft.
Show notes | Episode 108 | Best of Sport
0:29: Best of 2022 Sport, welcome to Between Two Beers
2:24: Dion Nash shares the real story of the weed scandal in South Africa from 1995
15:43: Ryan Fox shares his best Tiger Woods stories
27:53: Kendra Cocksedge reveals the origin of her eye-raising nickname
31:32: Shane Cameron takes us inside the fight of the century with David Tua
42:10: Ric Salizzo reveals the happy chaos of Sports Café
53:24: Former professional wakeboarder Brad Smeele shares the details of the tragic day when he suffered a horror injury attempting one of the hardest tricks in the world and ended with him waking up as a quadriplegic
1:02:13: At 19, Kiwi pole vaulter Eliza McCartney won Kiwi hearts and a bronze medal at the Rio Olympics. She takes us back to that special day
1:13:23: Ross Taylor gets candid about the Black Caps captaincy saga that cast a shadow over his career
1:20:39: Surfer Daniel Kereopa had the world at his feet, until it all fell apart
1:32:44: Lance Cairns talks about his son, Christopher
1:44:27: Grant Fox opens up on his friendship with the late, great Sir Martin Crowe
1:54:47: Trail-running world champion Ruth Croft shares her journey through meditationSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
12/18/2022 • 2 hours, 8 minutes, 25 seconds
Bushwhacker Butch: Inside 35 years of pro wrestling
On this episode of Between Two Beers we talk to Butch Miller.
Butch is best known for being one-half of the WWE Hall of Fame tag-team, the Bushwhackers.
Butch is 78-years old and lives a fairly simple life in Wellington these days. But he’s still firing on all cylinders – and some of the yarns shared across this one were quite breathtaking.
Like how he started wrestling with team-mate Luke in 1966, and trained for 10 years with Hulk Hogan and Macho Man Randy Savage in a Californian gym, his behind-the-scenes stories of fighting Andre the Giant and traveling with him on the road in New Zealand, fighting in front of 96,000 people at Wembley, fighting Dwayne the Rock Johnson’s grandad, the origins of the Bushwhacker walk, negotiating with Vince McMahon, transitioning from the Sheepherders to the BabyFace Bushwackers, and so much more.
The BushWhackers were inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame in 2015, to honour their 35-year journey through professional wrestling, the trials and tribulations along the way and their elevation to the top of the wrestling world. And Butch has recently released a book, Blood Sweat and Cheers which captures the journey with some unbelievable stories. Would make a great xmas prezzy for a few dads out there. Butch is a hard case and a legend. But with a soft, caring, sensitive underbelly. And this one even got a bit emotional at the end when he was talking about how proud he was of his journey. And we were right there with him. Hopefully you enjoy this as much as we did. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
12/11/2022 • 1 hour, 30 minutes, 55 seconds
Ruth Croft: What it's really like to win a 100 mile race
On this episode of Between Two Beers we talk to Ruth Croft.
Ruth is New Zealand’s trail running queen. In 2021 she made headlines winning the 102km Tarawera Ultra outright – the top man or woman – and then finished second at Western States in her first attempt at running 100 miles. She returned this year, to win the race (referred to as one of the toughest races on the planet) conquering the 161km race in blistering California heat in 17 hours.
In this episode we talk about the mentality of navigating a 100 mile challenge, where the 'race really only starts after 100km', her journey through meditation to multi-day silent retreats - and why she has started doing them in the dark, why she walked away from running after college in the US, moving to Taiwan by herself when she knew no one and couldn’t speak their language, the most exotic locations she’s run in, coming back to NZ, media exposure and so much more.
This ep will blow your mind. Ruth might be the mentally strongest athlete we’ve talked to. She’s won 10 of the last 12 races she’s competed in, against the best ultra-athletes in the world. And after listening to this, you’ll understand why. Such a thoughtful, disciplined, inspiring Kiwi legend. You’re gonna love this.
Listen on iheart or wherever you get your podcasts from, and check your podcast app for show notes. A huge thanks to those supporting the show on Patreon for the cost of a cup of coffee a month, to get involved head to Between Two Beers.com.
This episode was brought to you from the Export Beer garden studio. Enjoy.
Show notes | Episode 106 | Ruth Croft
2:00: “Easing” back into running in Taiwan with a casual 20km run
5:50: Short runs: “Oh, no that’s a different curry story!”
8:47: Jumping off Brunner Bridge as an initiation
11:16: Meditation and silent retreats
16:28: Darkness retreats!
20:45: Mastering the mind
24:52: Ruth’s West Coast competitiveness
27:54: The origin story: Growing up on the West Coast
31:07: The US college experience
39:11: Walking away from running and the importance of Taiwan
43:17: The journey to professional running and the nuances of distance running
50:04: “The race starts at 100km”: The Western States 100 mile race
57:35: The support crew at a trail race
1:02:32: Coaches: Jono Wyatt and Eddie Gray
1:05:48: The support of a good partner (with a dinosaur suit)
1:08:55: Having fun in a 100 mile race
1:10:16: Thoughts on winning the Tarawera Ultra
1:12:35: Life as a professional runner
1:17:42: The lure of the Olympics?
1:19:38: Some of the exotic running locations on the circuit
1:23:10: Coming home to New Zealand and thoughts on the running community
1:28:03: Last words from Steven, Seamus and Ruth
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12/4/2022 • 1 hour, 30 minutes, 49 seconds
Marcus Daniell: How to make a life-changing impact
On this episode of Between Two Beers we talk to Marcus Daniell.
Marcus is one of New Zealand’s best tennis players. He’s an Olympic bronze medallist, who's won 5 ATP titles, made quarterfinal appearances at both Wimbledon and the Australian Open and has won over $1 million in prizemoney across his career.
This episode is kind of split into two parts. The first half tells the story of Marcus, the incredible man-child who cut his path to the top of the tennis world and all the trials and tribulations along the way. And the second half focuses on the incredible work he’s been doing off the court.
In January 2021, Marcus pledged to give at least 10% of his annual winnings to effective organisations for the rest of his life. Since then he’s recruited 130 athletes across 35 sports and 30 countries to follow his lead.
Last year he won the Arthur Ashe Humanitarian Award, formerly won by Nelson Mandela, Andre Agassi, Roger Federer, Rafael Nadal and Novak Djokovic as an acknowledgment of the incredible work he’s been doing in the charity space.
Marcus is an exceptionally sharp operator. This chat goes into some super insightful areas and every answer is thoughtful and considered. He’s got a huge future off the court when he decides to hang up the raquet. You’ll enjoy this one.
Listen on iheart or wherevers you get your podcasts from, and check you podcast app for show notes. A huge thanks to those supporting the show on patreon for the cost of a cup of coffee a month, to get involved head to Between Two Beers.com.
This episode was brought to you from the Export Beer garden studio. Enjoy.
Show notes:
2:02: Marcus Daniell a two-day Hambassador, the Harvard of the South Pacific, and a humble wife brag
7:54: A Wikipedia check in and golf chat
12:19: Worshipping at the Chapel of Bullshit
22:56: Rubbing shoulders with the biggest names in tennis
27:06: Beating senior men at the age of 10
30:03: Super high-achieving siblings
32:31: Full engagement
36:05: Football v tennis
40:14: Moving to Slovakia at 17
45:22: Turning pro and moving into doubles
54:56: Life on the tennis tour
57:47: Bronze at the Tokyo Olympic Games
1:06:28: Effective Alturism and High Impact Athletes (HIA)
1:11:37: The growth of HIA
1:19:12 Winning the Arthur Ashe Humanitarian Award
1:21:28: Choosing the right charities
1:26:26: Cultivating the belief system
1:30:49: Balancing a pro tennis career and managing a charity
1:32:11: Considerations for retirement and post tennis career options
1:37:52: Last words from Steven, Seamus and MarcusSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
11/27/2022 • 1 hour, 44 minutes, 14 seconds
Lucy Blakiston: How to get 3.6 million followers on Instagram
On this episode of Between Two Beers we talk to Lucy Blakiston.
Lucy’s story is quite incredible. In 2018, she was sitting in a uni lecture, getting increasingly frustrated with how disconnected she felt from the information she was being delivered. So, along with her two hometown best friends, she started a blog called Shit You Should Care About.
Four years later, it’s turned into a mini-media empire. Her daily newsletter reaches 60,000 subscribers every morning, she hosts two podcasts and runs an Instagram page which has 3.6 million followers.
In this episode we talk about Shit You Should Care About’s ginormous Instagram presence, and what it's like being followed by Billie Eilish, Joe Rogan and Ariana Grande, how they went from 200,000 followers to a million in one month – and why it made her too scared to post, learning to accept the tag ‘media genius’, the decision to go ‘full time’, how they make their money, Harry Styles, what the future holds and so much more.
This was such an enlightening, fun chat with someone who seems to understand social media better than anyone we’ve met. Lucy IS a media genius, her journey is only just starting and it's exciting to think where it might lead. You’ll love this one.
3.00: Two weeks in a campervan on a road show
8:35: “A media genius on a world level”
81015: The origin story of Shit You Should Care About
21310: Billie Eilish, Ariana Grande, Joe Rogan get on board
24:44: From 200,000 to 1 million followers in a month
28:54: Learning on the rise from 1 million to 3 million
34:06: A Harry Styles interlude
34:41: Going pro: the decision to fulltime
38:18: The Neon deal and setting up Culture Vulture
44:01: Diversifying the audience through newsletters
48:55: Connection fatigue, self-pressure and low stakes errors
54:09: The power of community
58:23: The importance of Ruby and Liv
61:35: Mundane Polls
1:04:57: Paying the bills (and turning down an approach from The White House)
1:09:29: Quick thoughts on TikTok
1:11:37: Does writing a daily newsletter feel like a job?
1:13:03: Future gazing
1:14:08: Keeping harmony within the Shit You Should Care About universe
1:16:31: Web3, NFTs, block chain, and the Discord experience
1:19:20: Educating the world about New Zealand and vice-versa
1:21:41: Some bits and pieces from a Shit You Should Care About insider
1:24:53 Last words from Steven, Seamus and LucySee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
11/20/2022 • 1 hour, 27 minutes, 59 seconds
Sarah Hirini: From farm-girl to world champion (re-release)
On this episode of Between Two Beers we’re rewinding the clock back to August of 2021 when we talked to Sarah Hirini.
Sarah was one of the most impressive guests we’ve had on the podcast and after watching her epic display helping the Black Ferns win the World Cup final – figured it was a pretty good time to re-share her message.
Sarah is an Olympic Games gold and silver medalist, a commonwealth Games gold medallist, a six-time sevens world series winner, two-time RUGBY World Cup winner, and was New Zealand’s flagbearer at the Tokyo Olympics, the first Maori woman to ever have that honour.
In this episode we talked about her rugged Fielding farm-girl upbringing, why Honey Hireme-Smiler considers her the greatest leader she’s ever played with, the emotional rollercoaster of the six months before the Tokyo Olympics after tragically losing her mum, how the eccentric Ruby Tui won the world’s heart and much,much more.
Sarah's CV is impressive, but her personality is better. It’s easy to see why she is held in such high regard by everyone she plays with. She oozes class and control, while also being so open and honest. A special thanks to Sarah for being so open about the loss of her mum, there were parts in this episode when we were all in tears. The audio on this one is a little niggly in patches, it was recorded when Sarah was in MIQ, but stick with it, you’ll find its worth it. Also, we’ve cut out the first 10 mins from the original recording – as it was all MIQ chat – and no one wants to hear that in 2022.
Listen on iheart or wherevers you get your podcasts from, and check you podcast app for show notes. A huge thanks to those supporting the show on patreon for the cost of a cup of coffee a month, to get involved head to Between Two Beers.com.
This episode was brought to you from the Export Beer garden studio. Enjoy. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
11/13/2022 • 1 hour, 15 minutes, 43 seconds
Mitch James: How music saved my life
On this episode of Between Two Beers we talk to Mitch James.
Mitch is one of New Zealand’s most popular artists and has attracted over 200 million global streams of his music, over six million TikTok views and over three million video views. He’s toured the world alongside Six60, supported Ed Sheeran and just returned home after touring with Calum Scott, to release his second album, Patience.
In this episode we talk about his difficult teenage years and how he found a path out of darkness, the seven weeks he spent living on the street in the UK busking, the time he witnessed a brutal stabbing, getting discovered by Sony and the acoustic video that went viral, becoming a star and the female interest that comes with it, the horrific four years leading to the release of his new album and the joy of releasing new music.
This was a pretty special chat. It was really raw in places and incredibly uplifting in others. we talk about suicide and hitting rock bottom, and harnessing the drive and discipline to be succesful. Mitch James has an incredible story to tell - and we’re really grateful he shared it in such an open and vulnerable way.
Listen on iheart or wherevers you get your podcasts from, and check you podcast app for show notes. A huge thanks to those supporting the show on patreon for the cost of a cup of coffee a month, to get involved head to BetweenTwoBeers.com.
Show notes: Mitch James
1:31: Gearing up for the launch of the new album ‘patience’
5:39: 100 songs over four years
7:46: Touring with Calum Scott
13:43: Levels of fame
16:25: The challenge of high school
28:48: Mitch buys a one-way ticket to the UK to follow the Ed Sheeran blueprint
35:14: Busking on the streets of Europe
39:54: Open mic nights and YouTube mash ups
48:48: The first album
52:03: Supporting act for Ed Sheeran
55:53: Dealing with the attention that fame brings
1:03:41: Fitness, discipline, and the similarities between performing and fight sports
1:07:35: The time between albums
1:14:20: Drawing from real life experience to create music
1:19:43 Mending relationships with family
1:22:31: A history of streaking
1:28:13 Last words from Steven, Seamus and MitchSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
11/6/2022 • 1 hour, 32 minutes, 55 seconds
Chris Parker: What you don't see on Instagram
On this episode of Between Two Beers we talk to Chris Parker.
Chris is an award-winning comedian, actor and writer who's been on shows like Golden Boy, Funny Girls, Jono and Ben, 7 Days and the hit stage show Hudson and Halls. He’s also got one of NZ’s most entertaining Instagram pages and won the 2021 edition of Celebrity Treasure Island. In this episode we talk about his new book and his recent wedding, writing for Jono and Ben and auditioning for David Bain, using tears as a weapon, the landscape of pornography in New Zealand, the process of creating viral clips and much, much more.
Chris is a world-class storyteller and has an infectious personality. He’s really fun company and there were so many laughs in this one.
A huge thanks to those supporting the show on patreon for the cost of a cup of coffee a month, to get involved head to www.Betweentwobeers.com.
This episode was brought to you from the Export Beer garden studio.
Show notes | Episode 102 | Chris Parker
2:00: The end of book launch week
6:27: Writing the book
8:18: Getting married and deconstructing the wedding process
13:11: Viral content
16:42: The importance of Snort comedy
23:18: Hudson and Halls and campness
33:26: Becoming head writer at Jono and Ben
38:34: The goldfish story and David Bain
45:10: Musings on birds and other topics from Hayley Sproull
49:01: Making good content
57:00: Winning Celebrity Treasure Island
1:09:32: Going back to high school
1:16:01: Using tears as a weapon
1:21:18: Eat, pray, love, shit
1:26:34: The landscape of pornography in New Zealand
1:30:07: Last words from Steven, Seamus and ChrisSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
10/30/2022 • 1 hour, 32 minutes, 1 second
Carlos Spencer: Life after rugby (and Toffeepops)
On this episode of Between Two Beers we talk to Carlos Spencer.
Carlos is widely regarded as one of the best rugby players of his generation. He played 44 times for the All Blacks, 89 for Auckland, 99 for the Blues where he won two Super Rugby championships, then enjoyed professional stints playing and coaching in England, South Africa and Japan. in this episode we talk about what it’s like parenting a potential sports star, his viral trick-shot videos from lockdown, how he caught the eye of Graham Henry, his first impressions of Jonah, the freak injury that cost him a World Cup, how he keeps the rig in such good nick, the strain of being a rugby globetrotter, *that* try against the Crusaders in Christchurch, toffee pops, reno rescues and what's next.
Carlos was one of rugby’s genuine superstars, but in person is such a humble, down to earth Kiwi bloke. He’s lived one hell of a life, with so many incredible stories to tell. This was a really fun one.
Show notes | Episode 101 | Carlos Spencer
2:00 90 minutes late after a Carlos Reno Rescue
3:22 HAMbassador chat
5:39 Peyton Spencer: history repeating?
9:13 Parenting a potential sports star
15:28 Viral sensations during lockdown
18:25 Playing club rugby and the Brisbane 10s in your 40s
23:35 Fight for Life and the boxing career
26:50 Back to Horowhenua and catching the eye of Graham Henry
33.34 From a small town to the big smoke: the shift to Auckland
38:40 At the forefront of professional rugby
43:23 Arrogance or confidence?
46:00 Missing the 1999 Rugby World Cup
49:21 Impressions of Jonah and reflections on rugby in Auckland in the 90s
55:40 Carlos and the media
57:12 The ballsiest play in New Zealand sport
1:02:02 Carlos’ relationship with Canterbury and Andrew Mehrtens
1:04:45 South African sojourn
1:10:40 Coaching in another language
1:12:17 The strain of being a rugby globetrotter
1:14:49 Carlos’ Reno Rescue and future projects
1:20:29 Toffeepops and last words from Steven, Seamus and CarlosSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
10/23/2022 • 1 hour, 24 minutes, 21 seconds
The 100th ep: The good, bad and the cringey from the maiden century
On this episode of Between Two Beers Seamus and Steve are toasting a double celebration.
It’s both our third birthday and our 100th episode, so we figured it was a good time to reflect on our podcasting journey, talk about some of the best, worst and cringiest moments along the way and play a few of our favourite clips. Bringing up the ton is something we’re both extremely proud of and we wanted this episode to give a bit of insight behind the scenes of the podcasting process.
We also wanted to say a huge thank you to you. For following us on this ride, listening, supporting and giving such great feedback.
And a special thank you to our loyal Patreons. Some who have been there since the very beginning. You helped us keep the lights on in the difficult early days – and we appreciate you. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
10/16/2022 • 50 minutes, 54 seconds
Mikey Havoc: The journey of a creative genius
Mikey Havoc was one of the biggest stars in New Zealand entertainment for nearly two decades across music, radio and television.
He started out as a singer in the rock band Push Push – a band named Group of the Year at the 1992 New Zealand Music Awards following their smash hit Trippin’ – before going on to pump up the volume as a dance DJ and the long-standing voice of alternative radio station bFM, where he made some of the most creative radio of the era.
Mikey is also a familiar face on TV, with his former show Havoc which led to the infamous Havoc and Newsboy Sell Out Tour, where the dynamic duo of Mikey and Jeremy Wells took the country by storm and upset the whole of Gore. The juggernaut continued with another two Sell Out Tours and a series of shows including Havoc’s Luxury Suites and Conference Facilities and a remake of the Kiwi classic Top Town.
His life, career and story is remarkable – and in two hours we only just scratched the surface. But there’s some real nuggets of gold in here, some top stories from the glory days and some raw moments of reflection.
Show notes | Episode 99 | Mikey Havoc
2:02 Shaggy Sheepdog: Ol’ Havo takes us behind the scenes of The Masked Singer
12.10 Back to the start: four kids start a band called Push Push
16:38 Trippin’ and the rise to fame
22:10 Push Push push pause
26:14 Havoc hones his creative skills on bFM
35:38 Linking up with Jeremy Wells and the start of the TV journey
45:00 Faces of delight, or if you’re in the islands, Kumface
49:23 Gore
1:00:40 Life at the height of popularity and reflections on the TV career
1:11:21 Working with Jeremy Wells
1:17:10 Using his platform to speak to real issues
1:23:47 Havoc’s thoughts on his late father and his takes on fatherhood
1:37:18 What’s next for Mikey?
1:45:49 Last words from Steven, Seamus and MikeySee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
10/9/2022 • 1 hour, 48 minutes, 35 seconds
Petra Bagust: 30 years in the spotlight
On this episode of Between Two Beers we talk to Petra Bagust.
Petra was one of the biggest stars of New Zealand television for 18 years. She burst onto the scene as a 22-year-old co-host of cult classic Ice TV, and walked away as host of NZ’s biggest gig on Breakfast, aged 40.
Since then she’s started her own popular podcast called Grey Areas, and is a media chaplain.
In this episode we talk about her rapid rise to fame in the late 90s, why she had such a difficult time hosting Christmas in the Park with John Hawkesby, why ICE TV was so successful, reflections on ‘Petra the Virgin’, her shows that bombed – and why they didn’t work, Seamus reveals his 20-year old crush on Petra, we talk about the current media landscape and much, much more.
Petra is such a smooth communicator. She seamlessly switches from a witty gag to a heartfelt piece of wisdom, and it will quickly become apparent why she was the most in-demand host on TV in New Zealand for so long. We laughed a lot in this one, Petra is five-star company and this was a blast.
Show notes | Episode 98 | Petra Bagust
2:25: A taste of stardom: fan hugs with Petra
4:41: Podcast chat
12:44: Grey hair: a metaphor for freedom
18:03: Seamus owns his crush on Petra
24:26: Reflecting on 20 years on kiwi TV screens
27:42: ICETV and climbing the ladder
36:31: Being a 22-year-old in the spotlight
41:45: On-air chemistry
43:51: Petra the Christian Virgin
51:54: Travelling the world as a newly married couple
57:58: Sing Like a Superstar
1:00:39: Public recognition over the years
1:04:26: Juggling family life and work
1:09:30: Dealing with negative feedback
1:16:32: Leaving Breakfast, going on sabbatical, and Tearfund
1:22:59: Petra’s Te Reo Maori journey
1:29:27: Media chaplaincy and thoughts on the current media landscape
1:32:33: Last words from Steven, Seamus and PetraSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
10/2/2022 • 1 hour, 38 minutes, 16 seconds
Matt Heath: TV star, radio star, fake musician (re-release)
In this episode we’re winding the clock back two years to when we sat down with Matt Heath in November 2020. Matt was one of the first ‘big names’ that gave us his time when we were finding our feet in the podcast game, and we loved this one.
Matt is an actor, producer, sports commentator, columnist, musician and radio host and can be heard hosting the Radio Hauraki breakfast radio show alongside Jeremy Wells, as well as commentating sport and smut with the Alternative Commentary Collective.
We talk about Matt’s humiliating experience at Laura McGoldrick’s wedding, his reflections on playing Danny Parker in Back of the Y Masterpiece Television, how his ‘fake’ band Deja Voodoo got a record contract, the time he made Jaquie Brown cry, the realities of working on breakfast radio and much more.
Show notes | Matt Heath
1.49 Matt politely declines a beer after four hours broadcasting and a big weekend in Taupo
2.48 The time Seamus met Matt at Laura McGoldrick’s wedding and Matt got bullied into performing Deja Voodoo “Beers” at the reception
5.21 The time Steve joined the Matt and Jerry Show to talk the Kipchoge Challenge and got an insight into the realities of commercial radio
10.03 Balls of Steel UK and the time Matt and his mates slagged off their director unaware their mics were turned on
13.47 Back of the Y Masterpiece Television: beginnings, police complaints, show synopsis
20.06 Could the show exist in 2020? A recap of some of the more significant stunts and the end of the show
27.26 Our favourite band. Your favourite band: Deja Voodoo
30.03 Reflecting on Back of the Y and Deja Voodoo
36.58 The jump to radio via and mainstream television, and the journey from bFM to Radio Hauraki
46.40 “Changing lives”: Linking up with Jeremy Wells and creating The Matt & Jerry Show
49.10 Is there a line for Matt Heath?
51.29 Writing opinion columns for the NZ Herald
53.38 Vinewood Animation and winning awards with Fire in Cardboard City
56.17 Baz Heath: The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree
57.49 Making Jaquie Brown cry, wide ranging sports chat, and last words from Matt, Steven and SeamusSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
9/25/2022 • 1 hour, 1 minute, 29 seconds
Kendra Cocksedge: I'm not done yet
Kendra Cocksedge is the most capped Black Fern of all time and their record point scorer who recently announced her retirement from rugby after a stellar career.
In 2019 she became the first female player to win the Kelvin R Tremain Memorial Trophy for New Zealand rugby player of the year. She was also recognised by World Rugby as the International Women’s Player of the Year in 2015 and was named as part of the World Rugby Team of the Decade for the 2010s.
Growing up playing with boys in Taranaki from the age of four, Kendra turned away from a promising cricket career when she was called up by the Black Ferns in 2007 and learned valuable lessons from nine years sitting on the bench. Eventually, she rose to the very top of the game leading the haka in Christchurch in front of her proud parents and enjoying a fairytale end to her domestic rugby career. But Kendra is not done yet, with one more World Cup assignment ahead of her.
This episode was in paid partnership with Rexona NZ, with Kendra charting her experiences in overcoming barriers along her journey in association with Rexona NZ's #NotDoneYet campaign.
Show notes | Episode 97 | Kendra Cocksedge
2:27: NotDoneYet
8:59: A few tales from Kendra: school days, prank wars, axes and bike ramps
17:08: Leading the haka
23:11: Celine Dion
25:52: A fairytale finish to a Canterbury career
31:16: Back to barefoot rugby in Okato
41:34: The cricket career that could have been
45:58: Entering the Black Ferns environment at age 19
51:01: Mental health
54:17: Playing in Club footy
55:44: Nine years as a back up Black Fern
58:20: Taking a break from rugby
59:36: The changing perceptions of women’s rugby
1:07:07: Winning the World Rugby Player of the Year in 2015…
1:10:34 …and then backing it up with the Kelvin R Tremain Memorial Trophy in 2018
1:19:47: The effect of Covid-19 on Kendra
1:21:35: If you can see it you can be it
1:24:18: The physical toll of 30 years in rugby
1:27:48: Nicknames
1:31:22: Last words from Steven, Seamus and KendraSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
9/18/2022 • 1 hour, 35 minutes, 8 seconds
Daniel Kereopa: The Ultimate Waterman
Daniel Kereopa is a special person. You’ll hear it straight away. His messaging is subtle, captivating and deep. He’s disarming with his humour and self-depreciation, but behind it is real authenticity and humility. And he’s got an incredible story to tell.
Daniel was one of New Zealand’s best surfers across the late 90s and early 2000s and travelled the world competing against the best. But in 2008 his world came crashing down. Across two years he lost all his sponsors, his marriage fell apart, he lost connection with his kids and came about as close to death as possible after a freak accident.
In the midst of a deep depression, and a burnt heart, Daniel fell out of love with surfing, but used the structure and discipline of karate to help piece his life back together. After becoming a black belt, he returned to the water in 2015 to be crowned The Ultimate Waterman – beating nine of the world’s best water-athletes across five different ocean disciplines.
Now Daniel’s life is all about helping. Teaching kids to surf, to love, and be safe, in the ocean and become better people – through his DK surf school. But he’s also under-utilised. He’s keen to do more public speaking, mentoring and ‘helping’.
Show notes | Episode 96 | Daniel Kereopa
2:04 No Wikipedia page, memories of 90s and 00s DK
5:10 The ability to read people
8:39 From farm to ocean: Building a picture of DK the surfer
18:31 Becoming a professional surfer
29:03 Losing it all
36:21 Coming back from the dead and leading with aroha
50:42 The Ultimate Waterman win
1:01:49 DK Surf School: Teaching people how to connect with the water
1:06:31 DK on asking for help, helping others, parenthood, and Raglan
1:13:48 What does the future hold?
1:17:09 Living in the real world
1:20:52 Gratitude and last words from Steven, Seamus and DKSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
9/11/2022 • 1 hour, 25 minutes, 1 second
Brad Smeele: The ride that changed my life
Brad Smeele was a world champion wakeboarder at the top of his game. His life was an endless summer of travel, competing, modelling, building and meeting women when a catastrophic accident changed his life and left him a quadriplegic in 2014.
Brad talks about the astonishingly raw and honest book about his journey – Owning It – The Ride That Changed My Life. The mental and physical challenges of losing mobility, the realities of life without the use of limbs, his sex-life, what it looks like now and why he included so much of it in the book, the darkest thoughts he had – and how he overcame them, and his incredible path to happiness, fulfilment and being present. And how he got there.
This is a chat that really left us speechless. Brad suffered just about the worst possible thing that could happen to a young man in the prime of his life – and has found a way to turn it into a positive. It certainly put our own struggles into perspective and we both left the episode feeling incredibly inspired.
Show notes | Episode 95 | Brad Smeele
2:03 A busy week for Brad Smeele: the book launch, media appearances, and going head-to-head with Ross Taylor
5:00 Sex (and other reflections on the book)
11:42 Painting a picture of pre-accident Brad Smeele
21:59 A pause for breakdown on naming conventions for wakeboard tricks
24:29 A preamble to the accident: opening up, shitting yourself, and having real conversations with your mates
31:40 The accident
40:16 The initial recovery post-accident
53:12 Steve loops back to sex chat
55:36 Finding inspiration from tragedy: transitioning back to life in New Zealand
1:13:33 Helping other people deal with their shit
1:17:46 Owning It: the process of writing, editing, and launching the book (and Steve triples down on sex chat!)
1:22:30 Looking back at the accident
1:26:05 Last words from Steven, Seamus and BradSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
9/4/2022 • 1 hour, 31 minutes, 22 seconds
Dan Hooker: Built to fight
Dan Hooker has been a professional fighter for the last 13 years, forging a path to becoming one of the best UFC lightweight fighters in the world through kickboxing, Muay Thai, and mixed martial arts.
Dan gives us an insight into the realities of fighting for a living including reflections on dealing with head trauma, and all of his back catalogue in fight sports from featherweight all the way through to a heavyweight bout with an opponent who weighed over 130kg!
He also takes us behind the scenes of the UFC machine all the way from signing his first contract in 2014 at UFC Auckland all the way to the PPV cards and his upcoming fight at UFC 281, press conferences with Conor McGregor, and training with Israel Adesanya.
Dan is unique in the New Zealand sporting landscape. An athlete at the top of his field that calls it as he sees it. His thoughtful, introspective answers to some big questions revealed an incredibly likeable, warm guy.
Show notes | Episode 94 | Dan Hooker
1:34: An appreciation for Export Gold!
2:23: Comparing a day at The Wiggles to a UFC PPV
7:11: Dan Hooker’s podcast history and some social media gold
10:50: Tricks of the trade as a doorman in downtown Auckland
15:52: Frenemies and training with Israel Adesanya
22:03: Taking a leg kick from Dan Hooker
24:37: Pre-combat sports Dan Hooker and the influence of The Ultimate Fighter
32:14: Dan Hooker v the 130kg heavyweight
37:42: Getting the call up to the UFC in 2014
44:39: The Edson Barboza fight
52:25: The aftermath of a big fight: Dustin Poirier and Paul Felder
57:48: Reflections on the management of a mixed martial arts career
1:04:34: Is the UFC a viable career for future athletes?
1:08:35: Backstage at the UFC
1:17:25: The importance of Eugene Bareman
1:21:47: The psychology of the weigh-in and the dynamic change with Conor McGregor on the card?
1:25:24: Cutting weight (and missing weight)
1:29:04: Head trauma, CTE, and combat sports
1:36:30: Fighting, family, public profile, and upcoming fights
1:41:10: Last words from Steven, Seamus and DanSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
8/28/2022 • 1 hour, 43 minutes, 30 seconds
Ross Taylor: My side of the story
We talk to Ross Taylor about the response he’s had to his new book ‘Black and White’, the joy of dominating schoolboy cricket with a teenage Jesse Ryder, the hidden agendas which led to him being ousted as Black Caps captain, becoming an overnight millionaire in the IPL auction, the best memories of the late Sir Martin Crowe, deep convos with Kane Williamson, what life after cricket looks like and much, much more.
Show notes | Episode 93 | Ross Taylor
1:51: Is Ross Taylor a HAMbassador?
4:06: The journey after launching the new book Black and White
10:23: The process of writing the book and pulling out transcripts after eight years
13:25: The fallout after the first five days
14:54: Will Ross Taylor still pay for half of Seamus’ wedding?
17:20: What’s The Time Mr. Wolf?
19:58: Opportunity costs and getting used to life at home
26:41: The change in Ross Taylor from the start of his career to the end
27:57: Rising through the ranks at Central Districts and growing up with Jesse Ryder
36:48: Early sponsorships, why Ross could never play rugby, and being available for domestic cricket
43:06: The mechanics of an IPL auction
48:45: The captaincy saga
56:11: Similarities to the Ian Foster All Blacks coaching situation
1:00:19: Does time heal old wounds?
1:06:55: Racism, culture, and identity
1:16:48: Ross Taylor on the late Sir Martin Crowe
1:23:46: The relationship with NZ Cricket
1:26:12: Ian Smith, Andy Haden, and Leanne McGoldrick
1:30:28: A conversation between Ross Taylor and Kane Williamson
1:33:23: The long, bumpy road to retirement
1:44:08: What’s next for Ross Taylor?
1:46:25: Some quick yarns the boom box in the Long Room at Lords, Peter Andre’s Mysterious Girl, and a near miss in St Kitts
1.54.03: Last words from Steven, Seamus and RossSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
8/21/2022 • 1 hour, 53 minutes, 14 seconds
Eliza McCartney: My journey back to the podium
Eliza is a professional pole vaulter and one of the very best in the world.
She burst onto the scene as a 19-year old, taking home bronze from the Rio Olympics, before winning silver at the 2018 Commonwealth Games, and smashing indoor and outdoor Oceania records.
In this episode we talk about going to school with Lorde, the time she accidentally stumbled on a nude beach, why her coach made her tell a joke each week, her rise to the top of the pole vaulting world and the whirlwind of fame that followed her Olympic bronze. Eliza's career has stalled recently with an unfortunate run of injuries that prevented her from competing at this year’s Commonwealth Games. We talk about the mental and physical struggle of dealing with injuries, and the inspiring rebuild that’s happening now.
Eliza is such good company and we both really loved this chat. In the second half we go quite deep on the injury situation, and you’ll get a really clear picture of what a tough few years it's been for her. This was actually her first ever podcast appearance, and we’re really grateful she came on to share her story.
Show notes | Episode 92 | Eliza McCartney
1:43 Steven’s pole vault research comes to the fore off the back of the Commonwealth Games
4:20 Growing up with Lorde and Eliza’s childhood sporting background
6:26 Seamus navigates watching Eliza at training and Steven’s Rio recollection
8:59 Eliza the comedian
13:01 Some thoughts on Chelsea Lane and that time she lead Eliza astray in Vancouver
18:44 From North Island Champs to World Juniors: The rapid rise to success in pole vault
27:24 The “block” before qualifying for the 2016 Rio Olympics
33:30 Expectations and on the day preparations
37:08 Day two of Rio and claiming the bronze medal
47:03 The medal ceremony and blowing up on social media like Pita Taufatofua
50:16 A cheeseburger challenge interlude with Seamus and Roland Jeffrey
51:21 Reflection on the bronze medal success and the whirlwind on Eliza’s eventual return to New Zealand
57:38 Post Rio Olympics: personal bests including the fifth best vault of all-time!
1:01:18 Highs and lows: charting the injury story
1:10:45 Navigating the challenge of having to share your battles publicly with friends and family
1:15:17 How close to retirement did Eliza get?
1:18:15 The rebuild of Eliza McCartney
1:26:03 Advice for young athletes
1:27:35 The social campaigner and environmentalist with a deep appreciation for Te Ao Maori
1:35:24 The Italian Job: on the kite foil Olympic campaign trail with Lukas Walton-Keim
1:37:50 Influencing a generation of kiwi female pole vaulters
1:39:00 Last words from Steven, Seamus and ElizaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
8/14/2022 • 1 hour, 41 minutes, 23 seconds
Jason Hoyte: Stepping out of character
Jason Hoyte is a screen, and voice, actor, radio host, comedian, stage performer, former cricket umpire and father of four. In this episode we talk about Jason’s infamous scene with Nadia Lim on Late NIght Big Breakfast, the chaotic early days of comedy with Sugar and Spice, his relationship with Leigh Hart and the trials and tribulations of putting Bhuja together, working with Ryan Gosling on Young Hercules, His experiences with the ACC, never being too old for smut talk and some love, and life advice.
Jase is a guest we’ve wanted on the show since we started it - and we weren’t disappointed. He’s so often ‘in character’ in his public-facing roles, so it was a real treat to peak behind the curtain to find out what really makes him tick. Jase has been a big influence on both of us, he’s been involved in many of our favourite productions and just generally cracks us up. He’s also lived a hell of a life.
Show notes | Episode 91 | Jason Hoyte
1:38 Jason throws some heat at Mike Lane about the state of the Export Beer Garden Studio
3:08 The influence of Jason on the everyday lexicon – backbone!
5:40 An impressive body of screen acting work
8:46 One of the most well-known voices in New Zealand
13:23 Setting the foundations at Dilworth: maths poetry and school productions
19:47 Sugar & Spice
30:33 West Auckland Hollywood: Xena, Hercules and Young Hercules
34:54 Killing people on Shortland Street
38:12 A breadth of work from Seven Periods with Mr. Gormsby to Power Rangers
41:36 Leigh Hart, Moon TV, and The Late Night Big Breakfast
51:53 Jason and Nadia Lim
55:26 The transition to radio: Bhuja via the Alternative Commentary Collective
1:04:55 Hüsker Dü: The art of throwing people under the bus
1:07:41 The success of the Alternative Commentary Collective
1:14:04 The Big Show with Mike Minogue and Keyzie
1.18.18 Last words from Steven, Seamus and JasonSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
8/7/2022 • 1 hour, 20 minutes, 44 seconds
Chelsea Lane: How to make it in the NBA (re-release)
On this episode of Between Two Beers we’re re-winding the clock to November 2021 when we sat down with Chelsea Lane. Chelsea was in the news last week when it was announced she’d been appointed as the Head of High Performance at Basketball NZ and we thought it was a great reason to re-share her extraordinary story.
After working in NZ for over a decade as a physio, and with High-Performance Sport NZ, she got an email from the NBA champion Golden State Warriors in 2015, asking for her help. Within a year, she was working with some of the biggest sport stars in the world as a performance therapist, within two years she was running the whole operation, leading a team of 25 and within three years she had two NBA Championship rings and was one of the NBA’s most coveted backroom staffers. She was then headhunted by the Atlanta Hawks, offered an executive role and within five years of leaving New Zealand was the Vice President of an NBA franchise.
In this episode we talk about why she walked away from it all, the close personal relationships she developed with Steph Curry, Kevin Durant, Andre Igoudala and Vince Carter, behind the scenes stories of team-talks with Steve Kerr, the magic she saw from Durante and Curry at training every day, how she celebarted her two NBA championships, how she navgiated 100-hour work weeks, and why so many NBA stars are so emphatic with their praise of her and her work.
It will quickly become apparent why Chelsea has had the success she has. She's one of the most impressive guests we’ve ever had on the show – and we feel Basketball NZ have done a great bit of business.
Show notes | Chelsea Lane
2.06 Tennis lessons, living life “off the grid”, being absent from social media.
6.46 Chelsea Lane in their words: Steph Curry, Andre Igoudala, and Sarah Cowley-Ross
10.17 Receiving an email from the Golden State Warriors and meeting head coach Steve Kerr
16.57 Why did the Golden State Warriors chase Chelsea Lane?
19.45 Progressing through the ranks in the role
26.38 Being female in the NBA
33.29 What did the role actually look like?
37.33 Is US professional sports as cold as it sounds?
42.31 In the huddle: pearls of wisdom from Steve Kerr and others
52.02 In the locker room: routines, winning NBA championships
1.03.08 The realities of working in the NBA
1.08.27 Chelsea Lane on Kevin Durant
1.11.38 From hands on treatment to the boardroom: Shifting to the Atlanta Hawks
1.22.17 Comparing Golden State to Atlanta
1.24.45 Getting Vince Carter fit for an 82 game season at age 42
1.28.00 Leaving the NBA
1.32.43 Is there a dream job here for Chelsea in New Zealand?
1.37.03 An interlude: Booking accommodation in Switzerland
1.38.26 Other kiwis in the NBA: Steven Adams and Sean Marks
1.39.42 A bit of Steph Curry
1.42.10 Last words from Steven, Seamus and ChelseaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
7/31/2022 • 1 hour, 46 minutes, 26 seconds
Chris Moorman: How I won $42 million playing poker
Chris Moorman is one of the most successful poker players of all time.
He has won over $42 million dollars playing cards and is widely considered to be the best online tournament player ever, but he’s also crossed over successfully into live tournaments – winning over $1 million on three separate occasions.
At one point, Moorman was also one of the biggest 'backers' in the online poker scene, and tells the incredible story of how some amateur money-management and sloppy decision-making cost him around $3 million.Chris is a poker legend; driven, humble, insightful and a great storyteller. We hear all his best stories from his 15 years as a poker pro, the mental-skills coach that helped him to his first big live win, the time he lost a backpack with $60,000 in it, playing against his wife for $20,000 and so much more.
Show notes | Episode 90 | Chris Moorman
2.01 Drama at the World Series of Poker
4.50 Putting some context on Chris Moorman the poker player
7.31 When Steven and Moorman lived in the same poker house in Papamoa and Queenstown
12.29 Reflecting on the early years
18.05 Horses, stables, and staking players
26.10 Horses going into makeup, writing off debt, and big swings
33.07 Shaun Goldsbury on Moorman losing a backpack with $60,000 cash and poker chips in it
45.20 Transitioning from online poker to live tournaments
55.06 Bringing on a mental skills coach and the immediate improvement it had
1.04.29 Black Friday and the impact on online poker
1.07.51 A short selection of poker stories from over the years
1.11.41 Lessons from some of the best players in history
1.18.53 Last words from Steven, Seamus and MoormanSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
7/24/2022 • 1 hour, 23 minutes, 1 second
Brodie Kane: Making it on my own
Brodie Kane has built a hugely successful career in the media over the past 15 years.
She was runner-up in the latest edition of Dancing with the Stars. She left mainstream media to start her own company – Brodie Kane Media – where she hosts the very popular The Girls Uninterrupted and Kiwi Yarns podcasts, and produces two other podcasts, Three Gals One Beehive, and Out the Gayte.
Before that she had an extensive career in radio and television where she hosted The Hits Breakfast show in Christchurch and worked at TVNZ for five years as a sports presenter on Breakfast, a roving reporter on Seven Sharp, an investigative reporter on Fair Go, and associate producer on Q+A.
Her no-nonsense yet down-to-earth approach is unique in the industry and you can be guaranteed that what you see is what you get.
Show notes | Episode 89 | Brodie Kane
1:39: Brodie Kane – the everywhere girl right now
5:20: Dancing with the Stars
9:59: The realest of the reality shows
12:09: Proud Mary
18:30: Jo Kane swims the Cook Strait at 40
22:06: Clubbies with Lisa Carrington
27:21: Leading the open women’s surf lifesaving nationals
32:58: Brodie Kane and Richie McCaw
39:15: Lessons from the New Zealand army
52:22: Starting out in journalism and a career of heavy subject matter
1:02:30: A shift from hard news to being in front of the camera on Seven Sharp
1:07:47: Moving through the ranks: from Fair Go to Breakfast
1:15:40: The horrible side of fame and calling people out
1:27:07: Controlling your own destiny: Brodie Kane Media
1:35:23: Brodie on podcasts
1:41:28: What does the future hold and actively managing your brand
1:52:29: Last words from Steven, Seamus and BrodieSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
7/17/2022 • 1 hour, 55 minutes, 49 seconds
Ric Salizzo: The Forrest Gump of NZ sport
Ric Salizzo is New Zealand sports broadcasting royalty – journalist, television presenter and producer – turned rugby consultant in New York.
Ric started his career as a journalist with TVNZ before becoming the All Blacks’ first ever media liaison officer in 1992. Prior to that he pioneered sports media coverage producing the behind-the-scenes documentary The Good, the Bad and the Rugby which kickstarted a series of follow ups over the years.
After four years inside the All Blacks camp he then created, and hosted the wildly popular Sports Café, a cult hit which ran for 11 years creating some memorable TV moments and turned Marc Ellis and Leigh Hart into household names. He then moved behind the camera as the executive producer of The Crowd Goes Wild, which has been running for 16 years.
Now based in New York working in Major League Rugby, Ric shared some of the best bits from his career.
Show notes | Episode 88 | Ric Salizzo
1.47 Rugby New York and the realities of Major League Rugby
6.10 Moving to the US to “get away from rugby” and what the All Blacks can learn from US sport
13.26 Sport in New York
18.20 Newsreader Ric at TVNZ in the 80s
25.10 The first ever All Blacks media liaison officer
31.19 Inside the All Blacks camp
36.03 Jonah Lomu and the 1995 Rugby World Cup
41.18 The original All of Nothing series: The Good, the Bad and the Rugby
45.24 The origins of Sports Café: “…after being the media liaison officer everyone hated me…”
50.09 The genius of Leigh Hart
58.03 The perfect end of Sports Café and the brief return in 2008
1.01.00 Sugar Shack: “one of the most important things I’ve ever done”
1.03.43 Going behind the camera with The Crowd Goes Wild and letting go
1.08.14 Last words from Steven, Seamus and RicSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
7/10/2022 • 1 hour, 9 minutes, 55 seconds
Hayley Sproull: Riding the comedy wave
Hayley Sproull is one of New Zealand’s top entertainers and definitely one of the busiest!
She is co-host on ZM's hugely popular Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley Breakfast Show. She has been co-host of The Great Kiwi Bake Off and more recently the host of comedic current affairs show Have You Been Paying Attention? She plays the lead role in the kiwi sitcom Golden Boy which premiered in 2019.
A graduate of Toi Whakaari: NZ Drama School, her original passion was for theatre and comedy which lead her to create a number of successful comedy works, including 'Miss Fletcher Sings the Blues', 'Tighty Whiteys', 'Milky Bits', and 'Vanilla Miraka', earning her an array of praise and accolades.
She has been a writer on many series including Jono and Ben, 7 Days and Funny Girls, with a weekly segment Hayley Bailey featuring on the Jono and Ben show.
Funny, smart, musical and driven, we were blown away by how good she is at so many different things!
Show notes | Episode 87 | Hayley Sproull
1.41: Busy, busy, busy! The busiest woman in the industry
5.28: Breakfast radio: Pulling the fingers at Jono and Ben every morning
10.36: A closed circle of friends…except for Sam Sproull: Hayley’s Comet and Talk Teddies
20.38: Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley
27.38: Hayley’s Version
35.15: A look into the early making of Hayley Sproull
38.51: Creative projects: Miss Fletcher Sings the Blues, You Make Me Feel like a Natural Woman, Tighty Whiteys, and Milky Bits
44.37: An intensely personal creation: Vanilla Miraka
54.34: Writing for Jono and Ben and Hayley Bailey
59.30: A brief look into the world of Hayley Sproull’s DMs
1.04.59: Moving into prime time: co-hosting The Great Kiwi Bake Off, hosting Have You Been Paying Attention? and acting in Golden Boy
1.10.23: Have You Been Paying Attention? It’s more than just hold and lean
1.19.52: Marching chat
1.29.54: Coaching in Oman
1.33.35: Bits and pieces: dating Greg Grover from Nova, System of a Lounge, and being a goth girl at high school
1.38.43: Using her platform to push topics: having PCOS and a Simon Bridges joke on 7 Days that took a turn
1.41.53: Last words from Steven, Seamus and HayleySee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
7/3/2022 • 1 hour, 45 minutes, 30 seconds
Grant Fox: The value of vulnerability
Grant Fox is one of the best to have ever worn the All Blacks no10 jersey and is still regarded as one of the finest goal-kickers of all time.
He scored 645 points across 46 tests, and played nearly 200 games for Auckland in domestic rugby. He’s been involved in New Zealand rugby for over 40 years as a player, coach, and for the last 10 years as an All Blacks selector. Since retiring from playing in 1993 he’s also been a business owner, a broadcaster, and a dad to Ryan Fox – New Zealand’s top golfer – and daughter Kendall. In the episode Grant shares some really important messages about being present for your kids, as well as an organisation he supports for young men without dads – Big Buddies.
He enjoyed a 40-year friendship with the late Sir Martin Crowe and opens up on their relationship, as well as thoughts on Sir John Kirwan, touring in the 80s and 90s, the inaugural Rugby World Cup.
Show notes | Episode 86 | Grant Fox
1.49: Then and now: an All Blacks squad naming in 1984 v 2022
4.14: Six steps back, two steps to the side and Auckland bring the Ranfurly Shield to Taupo in 1992
6.23: On being Ryan Fox’s dad
11.49: The competitive nature between father and son (interrupted by a phone call from Sir John Kirwan)
18.00: Grant Fox the caddy
21.26: A short fuse, a lack of patience, and aversion to technology
28.10: Some thoughts on parenthood
35.53: A 40-year friendship with Sir Martin Crowe that started at Auckland Grammar School
47.09: Grant Fox: This is Your Life
50.16: A Va’aiga Tuigamala interlude
52.30: Personal and professional friendships: a Sir John Kirwan case study
1.00.00: All Blacks tours in the 80s and 90s
1.03.10: The 1987 Rugby World Cup
1.09.37: The try that wasn’t against Ireland
1.13.45: Hard work and goal kicking
1.16.47: A special relationship with The British and Irish Lions
1.21.16: “Coaching wasn’t for me”
1.26.09: The role of an All Blacks selector
1.38.11: Life outside of rugby
1.40.33: Last words from Steven, Seamus and Grant
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6/26/2022 • 1 hour, 43 minutes, 34 seconds
Jono and Ben: The journey to prime time
Jono Pryor and Ben Boyce otherwise known as Jono and Ben are one of the most recognisable duos in New Zealand entertainment.
After starting out as stars in their own right they came together as Jono and Ben a juggernaut of Kiwi comedy that was one of TVs top rating shows for seven years. The show helped launch the career of many of New Zealand’s top comedic acts and their skits and pranks became legendary and live on to this day.
From Ben starting out on Pulp Sport and Jono on being professionally tortured on “do stuff to Jono Friday’s” they are now the hosts of the breakfast show on The Hits and their broadcast journey has mirrored their life arc with their content maturing as they have.
There is no ego with these guys despite their success, they are genuine, warm, funny and quick witted, but there’s great depth to them and they touch on very serious, important themes – like asking for help – and being there for your mates in tough times.
Show notes | Episode 85 | Jono and Ben
1.50: Not the traditional three-way but a comfortable four-way including sponsors product and beard envy
2.55: Talkability promotions: Jono’s Sky City marathon
6.58: Influences on the come up: Marc and Matthew, Sports Café, Eating Media Lunch
12.56: Old men reminisce about stuff: video stores and the VHS, taping songs off the radio
15.45: “Show us your crack”: New Zealand’s most famous radio jingle courtesy of Ben
18.57: Pulp Sport: a YouTube show that made it to Sky Sport
23.52: The pilot skit that went very wrong for Ben
29.50: Do stuff to Jono: experiences in commercial radio
37.57 Jono gets a start in TV on C4
40.47: The making of Jono and Ben
47.28: Moving from late-night Friday TV to prime time
49.30: The cast of characters on and off screen 52.37 A review of some of the best skits: the most destructive prank ever, Jono at Blues training, House covered in Post it notes
1.01.00: Using your platform to speak about important issues
1.06.08: The evolution of Jono and Ben and the stresses of working together
1.13.29: The end of Jono and Ben
1.16.56: A brief history of radio: from The Rock, to The Edge, to The Hits
1.17.40: Creating content: the rise of viral videos, TikTok 1.20.09 A Guy Williams skit gets awkward and their appearance on the Graham Norton Show 1.24.05 Trying to stand out while interviewing celebrities: Jared Leto, Arnold Schwarzenegger and Dwayne Johnson
1.30.54: Breakfast on The Hits and what the future holds
1.34.36: Last words from Steven, Seamus and Jono and BenSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
6/19/2022 • 1 hour, 38 minutes, 26 seconds
Ryan Nelsen: The truth about life in the EPL (re-release)
In this episode we’re rewinding the clock one year to June 2021, when we sat down with All Whites legend Ryan Nelsen. I remember this as a breakthrough episode for us. It was our 50th podcast, our biggest guest and we were both really anxious about getting it right. And Ryan couldn’t have been a better guest. Across nearly two hours he shared all the best bits of his life and career – and we’re really proud of how it turned out. We talk about all the best stories from his seven years at Blackburn, his frustrations with the All Whites in 2010, what it was like playing with Tugay, Gareth Bale, Luka Modric, Harry Kane - and against Henry and Bergkamp, Ronaldinho and Neymar - the time he hit on Chelsea Clinton at Stanford and so, so many other cracking yarns from an incredible career.
Nelsen is a natural leader and this episode provides a pretty revealing picutre of why he was made captain of nearly every team he has played for. Show notes:2.20: Thursday night in Washington DC with Ryan, laying the blueprint for Steven at US College, and impressions of Seamus on the Olympic tour in 2012
8.26: Reflections on two Olympic Games: playing Brazil, Egypt and Mo Salah, the run-in with Dakota Lucas, and the cheeseburger challenge between Roland Jeffery and Seamus
19.00: We go back to Christchurch and the cricket career that could have been had it not been for a dodgy knee
23.38: The US experience: Stanford, MVP, All American, 'pulling the moves' on Chelsea Clinton, Tiger Woods in the medical centre, going #4 in the MLS draft, DC United, failures and lessons learnt
31.37: Heading to the UK: From “you’re not good enough” at Charlton Athletic and being on trial at Blackburn Rovers to the FA Cup semi-final within six months
38.42: Attracting the interest of Manchester United: What does that really look like?
41.23: Some of the characters at Blackburn Rovers: Tugay and his ciggies
45.44: A Cole Tinkler and Raj Naidu interlude
46.55: Back to Blackburn Rovers characters: Chris Samba defender turned striker, Mark Hughes at training, and Robbie Fowler sneaking in
51.54: Chris Wood and his incredible achievements in the English Premier League
54.37: The Burnley and Blackburn Rovers rivalry: pitch invasions, police, tribalism and hooligans
57.00: Ryan finds out he was named by fans in Blackburn Rovers’ greatest ever XI, the Venky's chicken ad and fighting El Hadji Diouf in the dressing room
1.01.48: Losing 1-7 to Manchester United: going after Sam Allardyce at halftime, and Dimitar Berbatov scoring five in the process
1.04.23: Toughest opponents: marking Thierry Henry and Dennis Bergkamp in their prime
1.06.33: A sad end after seven years at Blackburn Rovers and the eventual move to Tottenham with Gareth Bale, Luka Modric and a young Harry Kane
1.13.49: "I don’t want to be here": QPR and Ryan’s eventual retirement and transition into management
1.18.16: Leaving everything on the pitch with the All Whites at the 2010 FIFA World Cup and the pressures of club v country
1.25.27: Behind the scenes of the World Cup in South Africa: battles with NZ Football, the drain of the World Cup and the challenges after the tournament
1.38.05: Toronto FC and the end of the coaching journey
1.41.42: Moving off the pitch and on the line with .rugby and .basketball
1.44.54: Terrible haircuts at the Confederations Cup in 1999 and never being able to drink tequila again after a big night with Kris Bouckenhooge, RN Wines, and player representation
1.48.55: Last words: The Bob Smith Memorial Trophy, and rescuing Ryan’s boots from the rubbish bin at the Olympic GamesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
6/12/2022 • 1 hour, 51 minutes, 37 seconds
Blair Tuke: Epic ocean stories
Blair Tuke is one of New Zealand’s most successful and best sportsmen. He’s won an Olympic gold medal and two silvers, two America’s Cup titles, six 49er World Championships and with teammate Peter Burling, was named NZ sports team of the year in 2017. In this episode we talk about his dubious hole-in-one on a par four in Arrowtown, why Tana Umaga, Christian Cullen and Dom Harvey stayed at his house when he was 10, the brutal realities of the round-the-world Ocean race - working four hours on four hours off for 23 days - how and why he won 28 regattas in a row in the 49er with Pete, the best stories from the Olympics, the journey to the top of Team NZ, his marital status, and so much more.
This was a really cool one. We'd never met Blair before this, but he came bouncing into the studios with the most upbeat, positive, fun attitude, and really gave us everything with his thoughtful answers and willingness to share. It was one of those chats where the time just flew by. A huge thanks to everyone supporting the show on Patreon, if you want to chip in for the cost of a cup of coffee a month, head to BetweenTwoBeers.com
Show notes | Episode 84 | Blair Tuke
1.45: The Bermuda Triangle, quicksand, and spontaneous human combustion
4.40: When Christian Cullen, Tana Umaga, and Dom Harvey turned up for the Christmas Holidays
9.03: A hole in one on a par four in Arrowtown
12.54: The Ocean Race – a deep dive into sailing’s greatest round-the-world challenge
30.51: Establishing the Live Ocean Foundation
36.15: The open ocean and the risks involved: the loss of John Fisher in the Southern Ocean
41.20: Life on board: paying respects to King Neptune
45.02: The dramatic finish of The Ocean Race in 2018
50.28: Seamus’ series of curious questions on The Ocean Race
56.33: Falling in love with the ocean on a trip to Fiji and moving through the sailing ranks
1.00.49: Linking up with Peter Burling and the first Olympic Games experience in London
1.09.24: The remarkable run between London 2012 and Rio de Janeiro 2016
1.17.26: Carrying the flag and winning Gold at Rio
1.21.05: Silver at Tokyo
1.26.49: The America’s Cup: memories of past campaigns and getting the call-up
1.30.57: Winning in Bermuda and defending in New Zealand
1.37.31: The popularity of the America’s Cup
1.44.06 The ins and outs of Sail GP
1.50.11 What the future holds for Blair Tuke
1.54.31 Last words from Steven, Seamus and BlairSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
6/5/2022 • 1 hour, 52 minutes, 28 seconds
Dame Susan Devoy: The stories you haven't heard
Susan Devoy is one of New Zealand’s greatest-ever sportswomen and was the world’s top-ranked squash player from 1983 until 1992, winning eight British Open women’s titles and four World Opens. In retirement, she was knighted aged 34, the youngest Kiwi to achieve the honour since Sir Edmund Hilary. Then after gaining 20 years of experience in a number of roles, Devoy served as New Zealand race relations commissioner from 2013-2018.
In this episode we talk about dropping out of school for squash, the bumpy path to No1 in the world, the realities of having four kids under five, why she retired early, her embarrassing encounter with Bill Clinton, fundraising $500,000 in 1988 with a 2500 mile walk, the death-threats and abuse she suffered in the race relations role and why she’d never do it again, her issues with High-Performance Sport NZ and much, much more. This one was an epic. Devoy has packed so much into her life and was incredibly open about all the highs and lows along the way. She also has a lot to still give, and in the second half you’ll hear the passion is still there to make change. We loved this chat, and know you will to.Show notes | Episode 83 | Dame Susan Devoy
1.52 Dame Susie D
8.55 Squash battles between Susan and husband John
13.59 The Devoy and Oakley families give willingly to the B2B research team
18.49 A mum of four boys: Julian, Alex, Josh, and Jamie
29.54 Running 3km before and after training at age 10
35.15 Creating an elite athlete: the youngest sibling from a small town
38.15 Leaving school at 17 to pursue a professional squash career
47.49 The realities of being an overseas athlete in the 1980s
50.45 Winning the first British Open at age 20 and her public profile at the peak of her powers
55.51 Dame Susan and the Rosebowl Trophy
58.15 Staying at the top of the game and the fear of failure
1.04.10 The reasons behind deciding to retire at the peak of her powers
1.14.00 The walk for muscular dystrophy in 1988 that raised $500,000
1.19.55 Becoming the Race Relations Commissioner
1.28.33 The worst parts of the job and learnings from five years in the role
1.34.11 Racism in New Zealand
1.38.53 Would Susan do the role again knowing what she knows now?
1.40.47 Thoughts on high performance sport in New Zealand
1.47.28 A few celebrity interactions: Bill Clinton, Nelson Mandela, Sir Edmund Hilary
1.52.06 Last words from Steven, Seamus and SusanSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
5/29/2022 • 1 hour, 53 minutes, 38 seconds
Dom Harvey: Thirty years behind the mic
Dom was one of New Zealand’s most popular breakfast radio hosts from 2001 to 2021. He’s won the Sir Paul Holmes Award for NZ Broadcaster of the Year, written three best-selling books and has turned his passion for running into a new podcast called 'Runners Only With Dom Harvey'. In this episode we talk about why he walked away from the Edge after 20 years to focus on his mental health, and what that really means, what his future looks like and what his ambitions are with his podcast, the complexities of working and living with his ex-wife JJ, his difficult IVF journey, the best and worst parts of working on the Edge and his Tom Cruise prank that had a sour twist.
JJ described Dom as a sensitive soul, who used his radio persona to mask that sensitivity. And we got the real Dom here. There were some emotional patches in this ep where Dom opened up on the struggles of his IVF journey, and we’re grateful he was comfortable enough to share. Dom is great company and a brilliant broadcasting talent – this was a super entertaining chat.
Show notes | Episode 82 | Dom Harvey
1.41 Dom gets flustered meeting his heroes
2.58 The art of the podcast and learning the craft
7.23 Running five marathons in five days for Ka'iulani Forbes
11.17 Self-sabotage and imposter syndrome
16.15 Basing himself on Howard Stern, and remembering Two Strangers and a Wedding
21.37 Back to the start of the radio journey in Palmerston North and a weird interlude about Kids Songs
27.39 The making of Jay-Jay and Dom
30.51 The complexities of working and living with your wife
35.01 Breakfast radio interviews and on-air pranks
43.09 “Doing a Meg”: Building new on-air relationships post Jay-Jay
45.32 Audiences and listener numbers
50.30 Leaving radio after 30 years
57.17 The tumour that led to the fertility issues
1.03.10 Making peace with not having children
1.09.16 How is life out of radio?
1.11.20 Running chat: sub-three hour marathons and revisiting the Kipchoge Challenge
1.16.00 What the future holds?
1.18.02 Last words from Steven, Seamus and DomSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
5/22/2022 • 1 hour, 23 minutes, 28 seconds
Mike Lane: The worst stories broadcast in NZ (re-release)
On this episode we’re re-winding the clock nearly two years to September 23, 2020, when we sat down with Alternative Commentary Collective boss Mike Lane. Lane was Between Two Beers’ first big ‘get’. Up untill then, we’d been a relatively niche football podcast, but this chat inspired us to broaden our outlook. Lane is a world-class storyteller and this was one of our most memorable episodes. In it we talk about the worst things the ACC have said on air, what it was like managing Matt Heath, Jeremy Wells, Leigh Hart and Jason Hoyte, what really happened when the ICC booted Lane’s commentary team from the Cricket World Cup, battling and beating cancer, men’s mental health and the future of sports broadcasting in New Zealand. Show notes:
2.04 How Seamus and Steve know Mike
3.43 Carol from Waldronville complains about an Alternative Commentary Collective story during the Lions tour
11.02 What’s the worst thing ever said during an ACC broadcast?
17.00 When the ACC had their media accreditation removed by the ICC during the cricket world cup
27.35 A few tales from the ACC
46.48 Creating a lexicon of terms, players nicknames, dealing with public recognition and the horrendous stories punters share
56.30 Back to St Paul’s with Dan Vettori and Jeremy Wells
1.07.07 The Beige Brigade
1.25.08 Working in Abu Dhabi: Formula 1, the FIFA Club World Cup, and Snoop Dogg (with a great interlude about Paul the Saffa and FIFA HQ)
1.44.45 Mike Lane’s one in million cancer battle
1.55.06 No Talk Day and men’s mental health
2.02.50 What is the future for the ACC and for broadcasting in general?
2.10.25 Radio Hauraki: Managing Jeremy Wells and Matt Heath v Leigh Hart and Jason Hoyte
2.13.32 Sue Lane
2.16.55 Last bits and pieces: Are the WAGs friends with each other? Media influences growing up? Champagne Rugby, and do you trim your downstairs?
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5/15/2022 • 2 hours, 23 minutes, 57 seconds
Mark Richardson: The man behind the act
Mark Richardson was a test batsman, who has gone on to become one of New Zealand’s most sought-after broadcasters. He’s one of New Zealand’s best cricket commentators who's also been a host of the Crowd Goes Wild, Radio Sport breakfast, the Block, the AM Show and The Project. In this episode we talk about dealing with fame, arguing with Jacinda Ardern on live TV, his grumpy man persona on the Crowd Goes Wild, the full story of *that* viral video where Stephen Fleming 'abuses' him, his slowest-loser running races after tests, his over-the-top celebration after taking his first, and only, test wicket, the realities of working on Breakfast TV, if he believes everything he says and much, much more.
This was a lot of fun and we had a ton of laughs across this one. Mark is such a complex, interesting, entertaining character and I hope we were able to showcase some of the ‘real’ Mark Richardson here.
Show notes | Episode 81 | Mark Richardson
1.28 Is Mark Richardson a podcast guy?
2.30 The time he and Grant Elliott nearly got beaten up on a golf course in Queenstown
8.20 The slowest man races
13.19 The Crowd Goes Wild
23.37 THAT interview with Stephen Fleming
31.02 Charting the broadcast journey: From CGW to The Block
39.11 The AM Show
49.51 Breakfast broadcasting and the work / life balance
53.56 “The best seat in the house”: watching Duncan Garner at work
55.51 Dealing with fame
58.32 What happened to the bowling?
1.02.22 The transformation into an opening test bat with help from Lance Cairns
1.11.28 Taking the wicket of Yousuf Youhana at 552/7
1.16.04 The cramp in India
1.21.28 Catching Shane Warne for 99 at the MCG
1.28.48 The mental strain of being Mark Richardson the international cricketer
1.31.57 Mark Richardson the cricket commentator
1.39.55 Facing express pace
1.46.22 Scoring a hundred at Lords
1.50.24 Emotion
1.52.06 Last words from Steven, Seamus and MarkSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
5/8/2022 • 1 hour, 56 minutes, 57 seconds
Chris Cairns: Breaking my silence
On this episode of Between Two Beers we talk to Chris Cairns. Chris is one of the best cricketers NZ has produced. A powerful, big-hitting batter who could bowl as well as he could bat. For 15-years, Chris was an ever-present in living rooms across New Zealand smashing sixes and taking wickets on TV – a sporting hero. But on the 19th of May, 2014 it was revealed Chris was under investigation for match-fixing allegations, and his life has never been the same. In 2015 he was acquitted of charges of perjury and perverting the course of justice after an eight-week trial in London's High Court and in his words “dug a hole in Australia, disappeared from the spotlight and got on with life”. Then in August of last year he suffered a heart attack. He underwent four open-heart surgeries and had a spinal stroke, which left him wheelchair-bound and paralysed in his legs. Then in February he revealed he had been diagnosed with bowel cancer. it’s been a hell of a ride. In this episode we talk about why his brush with death has changed his perspective on life, and why he’s now open to talking about his trial, and things he wouldn’t have in the past, how he mentally coped with two months of hell in London, how it felt to have former teammates testifying against him, If he regretted suing Lalit Modhi, the realities of living with paralysis, what it was like growing up with Lance and what the future looks like. This convo covered some pretty heavy areas, and a word of warning, there are a few graphic, raw descriptions of his health battle early in the ep. Chris’ life has been a real rollercoaster, and we’re grateful he felt comfortable and open enough to share so much of it in great detail.
Show notes | Episode 80 | Chris Cairns
2.06: A day in life of Chris Cairns
5.41: How the cochlear implant changed communication with Lance Cairns
11.43: Aortic dissection and spinal stroke
18.22: Waking up to the reality of being paralysed and reflecting on life after the injury
25.41: Bowel cancer
33.25: Mental resilience, choice, and purpose
35.41: Looking ahead: getting back into work
36.58: Looking back: Cairns Fudge
40.20: London High Court in 2015, the mental toll of a two-month trial
43.57: Waiting for the verdict and the experience of sitting in the dock
50.33: Reflecting on the role of former teammates and the trial
53.25: The end of the commentary career
57.09: His friendship with Dion Nash (and Pilates)
59.42: Telling the story with detail: A book on the horizon?
1.00.53: Going back to the tweet from Lalit Modi
1.04.22: The transition from “son of” to New Zealand international
1.11.39: When did you realise you would be an international cricketer?
1.14.12: A man child?
1.16.03: Behind the scenes of the Young Guns
1.18.33: A look into the future and is Isabel Cairns a future tennis star?
1.23.25: A dad with a forgotten cricket career: T20 beige kits and a bowl-off with the West Indies
1.26.28: Cricket Max and Beach Cricket
1.30.27: Medical professionals
1.32.36: Rehab and explaining things in layman’s terms
1.34.55: Last words from Steven, Seamus and Chris
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5/1/2022 • 1 hour, 37 minutes, 53 seconds
Jack Tame: The art of the interview
Jack is one of the most talented people we’ve met. He was described to us by one of his colleagues as journalism’s Swiss Army Knife – a guy that does it all. He’s been a Breakfast host, a 6pm newsreader, he hosts one of NZ’s biggest radio shows on Newstalk ZB, is a columnist for the NZ Herald, has moderated live election debates, now hosts TVNZ’s Q and A and has seen more, and experienced more of the world – than any 35-year-old we know.
In this episode we talk about how he was given Paul Holmes’ radio job on ZB at the age of 25 with no radio experience, *That* interview with Winston Peters where Jack was called James – about 10 times, the time he was recording live TV while fearing for his father's life, dancing with Beyonce, going to a Les Mills grit class with Lorde, flirting with Ann Hathaway, covering Trump, why he left Breakfast TV, the things you don’t know about Mike Hosking and so much more.
Jack is such a slick operator, it made this chat so much fun. This was one of our favs, I know you’ll enjoy it.
Show notes | Episode 79 | Jack Tame
2.50: Steven’s embarrassing correspondence with Jack Tame and a deep dive in some Worldle chat
8.51: Jack on the Late Night Big Breakfast: communication with Leigh Hart and the genius of Jason Hoyte
14.66: Les Mills workouts with Lorde, public recognition, Paddy Gower and John Campbell
19.55 Taking over from Paul Holmes on the Newstalk ZB Saturday morning show from the USA
30.14 Reflections on Paul Holmes and the brilliance of Mike Hosking
37.15 How do you judge your success? Ratings and validation
39.36 Back to the start: the makings of Jack Tame
43.35 Jack’s dad goes missing in the bush
52.45 Winston Peters v James Tame
57.22 Q+A: the art of active listening and the work behind the camera
1.08.46 Starting out on One News while still at school
1.11.28 Reflections on being the US Correspondent for TVNZ
1.20.54 US politics broken down by Jack Tame
1.27.30 Interactions with celebrities: flirting with Miley Cyrus and Anne Hathaway
1.33.02 Red wine with Sir David Attenborough
1.37.24 Seven continents
1.39.41 The gruelling nature of Breakfast television
1.46.02 Work / life balance and the future of media
1.51.24 Marshawn Lynch and the Steven Adams come up
1.55.05 A star-studded nightclub in New YorkSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
4/24/2022 • 2 hours, 14 seconds
Josh Kronfeld: Not your average rugby player
Josh is an All Blacks legend who played at two Rugby World Cups across 54 games for the All Blacks and was a cult hero in Dunedin, where he played over 100 games for Otago and the Highlanders.
In this episode we talk about surfing with Tom Robinson, destroying his downstairs operation on the Crowd Goes Wild, what it was really like to play with and against Jonah, how he avoided food poisoning at the 95 World Cup, what it was like playing in NZ’s first Super Rugby season, why schoolboy rugby is better than All Blacks rugby, how he won consecutive seasons of Celebrity Treasure Island and much, much more. Josh is not your average rugby player. He’s a trained physio, he surfs, he paints, he’s a reporter for Crowd Goes Wild, he restores Classic Cars, he’s a family man, and a deep thinker.
There was so much to talk about with Josh – and as he said at the end after nearly two hours – we barely scratched the surface! You’ll enjoy this one.
Show notes | Episode 78 | Josh Kronfeld
1.38: Surfing, “Back Yourself”, and “digging like a demented mole” on Jonah Lomu Rugby
6.01: The third ugliest man at the 1999 Rugby World Cup
7.55: Injuring his downstairs operation in preparation for an interview with Mahe Drysdale
16.33: The Crowd Goes Wild
20.55: Growing up in Hastings and the importance of schoolboy rugby
29.23: From 88kg to 100kg
35.00: Otago: rugby, beating the Lions, court sessions, the supporters club, and the University of Otago experience
48.52: From amateur to professional rugby
1.01.08: The 1995 Rugby World Cup in South Africa
1.05.50: Meeting Nelson Mandela
1.08.59: A Jonah Lomu interlude
1.14.44: Playing for money at Leicester Tigers
1.18.40: Injuries over the years
1.22.55: No nukes in my backyard
1.28.26: Retiring from rugby and travelling for a year across the USA and South America
1.35.48: Going back to the University of Otago as a 33-year-old ex-All Black
1.38.57: Celebrity Treasure Island
1.48.48: Would Josh ever consider being a team physio?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
4/17/2022 • 1 hour, 54 minutes, 6 seconds
Ryan Fox: The best and worst of life on tour
Ryan Fox is one of NZ’s best golfers and has won two European Tour titles and has 13 professional wins. In this episode we talk about how he celebrated his recent win in the Ras Al Khaimah Classic and what happens to the $500,000 dollar prize money, what it was like playing a hole with Tiger Woods – and we hear all his best Tiger stories, memories of his late, great mate Shane Warne, how Steve Hansen’s advice helped him out of a funk, what makes Steve Williams such a good caddy and how his upbringing, surrounded by Kiwi sporting royalty, shaped his life. Show notes | Episode 77 | Ryan Fox
1.29: Back in the ACC studios, a Covid test fail from Seamus, and Ryan tells us about fishing and golfing at The Fox with Eric Murray, Neil Wagner, and Wayne Smith
7.30: Ryan Fox on Shane Warne
17.28: Pro-am golf: friendly bets, banter, being outdriven by Martin Guptill, running it close with Tim Henman
21.48: Sleeping on a six-shot lead at the Ras Al Khaimah Classic
29.56: The aftermath of the win at the Ras al Khaimah Classic
41.34: A breakdown of costs on the golf tour
47.11: Learning from Steve Williams and stories on Tiger Woods
55.06: A practice hole with Tiger in 2019
1.01.16: The difference between the top 10 in the world and the rest
1.02.51: Riding the wave of a win and chats with Steve Hansen and Sir John Kirwan
1.07.46: Rubbing shoulders with ex-All Blacks and ex-pro golfers and getting recognised in public
1.10.12: Memories of Grant Fox the All Black and Merv Wallace the cricketer
1.19.12: Falling in love with golf and turning it into a professional career
1.25.20: Are golfers weird guys?
1.27.26: The Saudi Arabia project with Greg Norman
1.29.44: Some long drive chat
1.34.38: Ryan’s relationship with golf in New Zealand
1.38.19: Quick fire golf chat: double Albatross, meltdowns, a hole-in-three, hardest shots, best foursome
1.43.45: Last words from Steven, Seamus and RyanSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
4/10/2022 • 1 hour, 58 minutes, 37 seconds
Chloë McCardel: The world's greatest open-water swimmer
Chloe’s story tests the limits of human endurance, and it may stretch your appreciation of what the human body and mind can achieve. She is probably the greatest ultra-marathon swimmer in history, and holds world records for the longest non-stop swim (124 km, 42 hours) and the most crossings of the English Channel (44).
In this episode we talk about where her mental strength comes from, where her mind goes mid-swim - during the dark times, how she deals with shark danger, the time she nearly died 17 hours into a world record attempt, the time she had to abort a swim due to jellyfish stings, the mental anguish of swimming for 42 hours and what it does to the body and mind and so many other incredible stories.
Chloe might be the toughest athlete we’ve talked to on this pod. The mental strengh it takes to do what she has done is inspiring – and makes you question the limitations you’ve put on yourself.. And shes so articulate at relaying her thinking at every step of the journey. I know you’ll enjoy this one.
Show notes | Episode 76 | Chloë McCardel
1.52: Seamus reveals his rules around water and his fear of the ocean
4.04: Setting the scene: “I wanted to be the best in the world at something”
8.27:Steven’s swimming journey towards a 10km open water swim
11.45: Chloë on mental strength, your purpose, and finding your calling
13.33: The English Channel
23.51: Signing Steven up to the England to Belgium Relay Swim
26.33: Coaching athletes to open water swimming
30.07: Breaking down the mechanics of an ultra-marathon swim
35.04: The importance of the support crew
38.07: The failed triple crossing attempt in 2011: 30 minutes from death
43.12: Shark chat
47.34: The Cuba to USA 160km swim attempt
51.11: The 124km world record unassisted open water swim
59.25: Could you do further?
1.02.50: Media exposure and external support for the challenges 1.05.07 Do you learn more from success or failure?
1.07.02: Using her platform to raise awareness on domestic abuse
1.09.51: Mental strength v physical strength
1.14.28: Thoughts on “being the best in world at something”
1.17.05: Weird things seen in the ocean while open water swimming
1.21.00: Last words from Steven, Seamus and ChloëSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
4/3/2022 • 1 hour, 25 minutes, 17 seconds
Dion Nash: A tale of two careers
In this episode, we talk about how Dion met his wife, Former Silver Fern captain Bernice Mene, opening the bowling with Jeff Wilson in Otago, what really happened when Dion, Stephen Fleming and Matt Hart got suspended for smoking pot in South Africa, how he stumbled into a high-profile corporate career soon after retiring from cricket, and the lessons he’s learned along the way.
Show notes | Episode 75 | Dion Nash
1.42 Between two whiskies, and some grooming chat in the Triumph & Disaster headquarters
3.39 A re-visit of the White Line Fever podcast with David Higgins and Shane Cameron and some ND cricket BJ Watling age group reminiscing
7.01 The evolution of Dion Nash: from cricket to business
11.50 Growing up in Dargaville
18.07 The foundation of success: marriage to Bernice Mene
26.37 A Jeff Wilson interlude
32.41 From Auckland Grammar to Otago Uni to the Young Guns
42.39 Lords (56, 6/76 & 5/93)
47.04 Injury
53.24 South Africa 1995
1.09.27 Gilbert Enoka and Pilates
1.19.16 The end of his cricket career and the creation of the Cricket Players Association
1.30.15 Transitioning into a corporate career with 42below
1.41.50 Establishing Triumph & Disaster
1.53.34 Comparing the business career to the cricket career
1.56.14 Last words from Steven, Seamus and DionSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
3/27/2022 • 2 hours, 2 minutes, 3 seconds
PJ Harding: Why I walked away from radio stardom
We talk to PJ about why she walked away from radio at the top of her game, what she’s planning next, her relationship with former co-host Jase – and the realities of breakfast radio, and we document Seamus’ rough run attempting to slide into PJ’s Instagram DMs from years ago.
Show notes | Episode 74 | Polly Harding
1.28 The journey from Melbourne to Masterton (or Mount Bruce)
6.40 PJ or Polly? And baby Campbell on the way
9.26 Polly lights up Seamus and his rough run attempting to slide into her Instagram DMs from years ago
18.55 Jase Hawkins and Producer Alex on PJ – including the time she shat on the bedroom floor
22.02 How much of yourself can you share on air?
28.31 Back to the start of the journey: becoming a station voice, starting on ZM, dealing with imposter syndrome, and finding her on-air personality
33.37 “An arranged marriage”: the origins of Jase and PJ
40.50 Australia comes calling
49.42 Authenticity and relatability: is any of it an act?
52.16 The realities of working breakfast radio and the impact on normal life
55.46 Leaving Jase and PJ and the decision to come home
1.05.51 Contrasting lifestyles: living off the grid v an Instagram account of over 100 thousand followers
1.10.34 Celebrities: charity boxing, sliding into DMs, intimidating interviews
1.16.56 Radio stunts, getting married on air, and First Dates NZ
1.20.33 Last words from Steven, Seamus and PJSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
3/20/2022 • 1 hour, 24 minutes, 51 seconds
Lance Cairns: The Story That Could Not Be Told
Last week we flew to Gisborne (Thanks to Air New Zealand’s Grabaseat) to talk to Lance Cairns about his incredible life. In the first 30 minutes we’d heard stories about Don Bradman, Johnny Cash and the Queen!
It was a conversation that wouldn’t have been possible for nearly 50 years due to his hearing impairment, but thanks to his cochlear implant – we had an afternoon we won’t ever forget
Show notes | Episode 73 | Lance Cairns > Final
2.03 “Welcome to what?!”
3.25 Pearls of wisdom from Lance Cairns
6.31 50 years of hearing impairment
12.04 Cochlear implant: A life changing experience
17.48 Six sixes at the MCG
23.30 Jeremy Coney and the new guitar, Sir Ian Botham, Sir Elton John, and Johnny Cash
29.46 Growing up in Picton: the unlikely cricketer and a brush with death at the age of 9
36.48 Cricket chat: coaching, bowling workload, and playing senior cricket at a young age
42.56 Working and playing international cricket
44.23 Facing the fastest bowlers in the world
48.25 A unique batting style that masked an incredible bowling career
53.22 Glenn Turner and the end of a career
54.09 Back to school: cricket, wagging and getting the cane
58.45 The loss of two children – Hayden and Louise
1.07.00 Christopher Cairns: the young cricketer
1.14.04 The relationship with Christopher Cairns
1.18.37 Cairns, Hadlee, Wright, Boock: an impressive golf foursome
1.21.07 Last words from Steven, Seamus and LanceSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
3/13/2022 • 1 hour, 25 minutes, 10 seconds
Kieran Read: The Stuff You Don't See On TV
In this episode with Kieran Read we talk about Richie McCaw’s engine, getting bounced by Shane Bond, the secret sauce of great leadership, what happened in that Ireland haka, and why he choked out Richie Mo’unga when he met him for the first time at Owen Franks’ wedding.Show notes | Episode 72 | Kieran Read
2.02: Running a Hotmail operation in 2022, trail running, weight loss, and a regular day in Kieran Read’s life post All Blacks career
7.32: Kieran Read: not what you’d expect
9.34: The Black Clash: “This is your greatest achievement on the sporting field”
15.18: A cricket prodigy with BJ Watling and Anton Devcich
21.19: Kieran Read v Richie Mo’unga at Owen Franks’ wedding
28.16: Growing up in Counties Manukau: Joeli Vidiri, playing for the Steelers, Rosehill College and Wesley College
40.33: The foundations of leadership: connection, authenticity, accountability
47.30: All or Nothing: behind the scenes of the Amazon Prime documentary
51.57: Taking over the All Blacks captaincy
54.33: Kieran Read on Richie McCaw
1.00.40: Vulnerability and using your platform to push positive messages
1.07.21: Dealing with injuries and having the will to play through and recover
1.11.21: Another Richie McCaw interlude
1.14.35: Rehabilitation from head injury (Vestibular Rehabilitation Treatment)
1.19.23: The sensitivities of talking about head injury in the current climate
1.22.40: The 2019 World Cup in Japan
1.30.09: The haka: how or who makes the call between Ka Mate and Kapa o Ponga?
1.36.01 kieranread.co.nz
1.38.50: Matt Heath, the Alternative Commentary Collective
1.40.14: Last words from Steven, Seamus and KieranSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
3/6/2022 • 1 hour, 44 minutes, 9 seconds
Eric Murray: What 'high-performance' really looks like (re-release)
This episode originally aired on Nov 24, 2020. The first thing that struck us about meeting Eric for the first time was his approachability. He had a beer in hand, a huge smile and welcomed us into his home like old friends – excited to share his best stories.
The second was his size. The guy is a giant and when you combine that raw power with an insane aerobic ticker, you can start to understand how he won 8 World Championships, 2 Olympic golds and 69 races undedeated in the Kiwi pair with Hamish Bond. But the ep was a blast – and for the new fans we’ve collected over the last 18 months – worthy of your time. It's packed with unbelievable stories from two decades at the very top of high-performance sport.
We talk about fighting Manu Vatuvei in the 2012 Fight for Life, competing in a TV show to find NZ’s toughest man, nights out in Switzerland – including the time he wrestled a swan into a pub, the infamous meeting when Dick Tonks blew his lid at the Kiwi Pair, and how having a son with autism changed him.
Listen on iheart or wherever you get your podcasts from, a huge thanks to those donating to the cause on Patreon... visit www.betweentwobeers.com to help support the show. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
2/27/2022 • 1 hour, 54 minutes, 43 seconds
Toby Burrows: The king of NZ music festivals
Toby is the king of music festivals in NZ. He’s a shareholder and former director of Rythym and Vines, who has more recently tasted success organising Bay Dreams, Le Currents and Plane Sailing, while touring some of the world's biggest artists from Bryan Adams to Snoop Dogg. Basically, he’s seen it all and done it all in the NZ music scene. In this episode we talk about the stressful early days of Rhythm and Vines and BW Campgrounds, how he helped to put Gisborne on the international music map, how he created an ‘Endless Summer’ for 15 years, splitting his time between NZ and LA, the famous faces he met along the way, including Joe Rogan, Paris Hilton, Kelly Slater and Freddie Roach, why he’s gone to Coachella 11 times, his success with Bay Dreams and Cardi B’s outrageous request when he booked her to play in Nelson. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
2/20/2022 • 1 hour, 9 minutes, 12 seconds
Monty Betham: How to become an effective leader
In this episode we talk about Monty's life after sport, his success in the business world and transitioning to punditry, his relationship with his father and reflections on a difficult childhood, why the NRL voted him the scariest player in the early 2000s, why he took the Shane Cameron fight at Fight For Life when no rugby player wanted to fight him and why he walked away from rugby league. Show notes | Monty Betham
1.38: Winning the morning, losing touch, good comms, 26 years of marriage
5.18: Warriors and Team Talks on Instagram and the obligatory Emma Twigg mention, plus Steve’s white gloves memory
7.02: The relationship with Monty Betham Snr: growing up around violence and abuse, life lessons, bullying, and redemption
17.30: A leader of men as the youngest ever Warriors captain
21.12: “Putting on the ugly head”: Monty on his role as the enforcer
29.37: Highs and lows at the Warriors
32.11: Walking away from rugby league and the transition to boxing
36.00: Fighting Shane Cameron at the Fight for Life
39.51: Rugby league v boxing
40.52: Looking back at the boxing career and eventually retiring from boxing
48.14: Continuous improvement, a comeback of sorts at The Fight for Life, and training Jimmy Spittle
55.37: Punditry, interviewing, and the art of asking good questions
1.01.18: Last words from Steven, Seamus and MontySee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
2/13/2022 • 1 hour, 4 minutes, 16 seconds
Shane Cameron: The real story of The Mountain Warrior
In this episode we talk about Shane's upbringing in the tiny town of Tiniroto and why he left school at 13, his epic training camp with Mike Tyson in Arizona – and what it was like to fight the baddest man on the planet, we talk about THAT fight with David Tua, when and why it turned personal, the heartbreak, the aftermath and their relationship now, his unlikely appearance on Dancing with the Stars and how he cut 16 kgs in three months to fight Danny Green. Show notes | Episode 69 | Shane Cameron
1.49: Lamb in the slow cooker, Instagram content, being in the best shape of your life at 44, and where you were for The Fight of the Century
6.51: Growing up in Tiniroto: a pub and a school, shepherding, and leaving school at 13
11.12: A solitary life: “I dreamt about being a shepherd”
15.58: Heading off on an OE
18.37: Picking up boxing at the age of 20
22.40: Sparring with the ‘Baddest Man on the Planet’: three weeks with Mike Tyson
28.33: Mike Tyson on Shane Cameron
32.04: Mike Tyson: A “gifted” man
33.53: Thoughts on Tyson coming out of retirement and the rise of YouTube fighters
36.07: Shane Cameron and David Tua: The early years
39.55: “It became personal”: The Fight of the Century
44.49: The aftermath of The Fight of the Century
47.38: Reconciliation: dinner with David Tua years later
51.15: Cutting weight for the Danny Green fight and redemption against Monte Barrett
55.33: Putting yourself in uncomfortable positions: Dancing with the Stars
58.52: Living on a rice and coconut diet on Celebrity Treasure Island
1.01.38: Shane Cameron Fitness, Counter Punch, Counter Punch Fitness App
1.05.06: Reflecting on the life of Shane Cameron
1.09.59: Last words from Steven, Seamus and ShaneSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
2/6/2022 • 1 hour, 12 minutes, 6 seconds
Scott Styris: The all-rounder
In this episode we talk about Styris' ‘streetfighter’ nickname and the most high-profile on-field confrontations across his career, why he’s not a good fit for the Black Clash, how the Indian commentary scene really works, the best pranks and gags from his high-profile marriage with his wife Nicky, the realities of life as a travelling player and pundit and his side of the story from his tussle with Anton Devcich in a Wellington hotel. Show notes | Episode 68 | Scott Styris
Show notes | Episode 68 | Scott Styris
1.39 Wrong emails, Fergburger, Botswana Butchery, Wally Lees, and the Gibbston Valley cricket match
4.41 Some niche Hamilton Boys’ High School content: invented cricket stories from Chris Kuggeleijn, 1st XI cricket, 1st XI football, 1st XV rugby, 1st VII volleyball
12.29 The real world: growing up, pressure to study, getting a job and juggling a cricket career
20.04 A stickler for the rules?
22.02 Scott Styris v Anton Devcich: The Styris perspective
26.16 Jimmy Pamment: mucking up warm ups, the Champions League, and retirement
29.45 Scott Styris v Mitchell Johnson
37.36 The Black Clash
40.13 Targeting Graeme Smith and Faf du Plessis, and the kings of sledging Shane Warne and Tim Southee
48.20 Cricket’s nice guys: The Black Caps of the modern era
50.22 The relationship with Nicky Styris: first night out, a hole-in-one, Wilson golf clubs, and Scott Stryis branded active wear
58.01 Starting out for the Black Caps: taking the wickets of Sachin Tendulkar and Brian Lara
1.02.21 The first ever T20 and the first ever T20 bowl off against the West Indies
1.07.11 The IPL and thoughts on the shorter form of the game
1.11.42 Looking back on a 20 year career in cricket: amateur to professional and pre-T20 to T20
1.15.39 Life on the road on the T20 circuit
1.18.21 The fallout with Mark Richardson and the world of the commentary box
1.22.55 Scott Styris the coach?
1.24.36 Commentating in the IPL and impressions of India
1.27.51 A future career as a “stop / go” man
1.30.00 Niche areas: fantasy baseball league and cricket in PNG
1.34.38 Last words from Steven, Seamus and ScottSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
1/30/2022 • 1 hour, 33 minutes, 34 seconds
David Higgins: How to create unicorns (re-release)
This episode originally aired on February 1, 2021. David Higgins has one of the most fascinating minds in New Zealand sport with a cunning intelligence and the balls to continually bet big on himself, and win. In his mid 20s with no boxing experience and little money, he engineered the Fight of the Century between David Tua and Shane Cameron which laid the path for his journey to the top of the boxing worlds as Joseph Parker’s manager. This pod is packed with cracking stories like how he feared for his life following a Hughie Fury press conference and how he manufactured a multi-million dollar pay day for Parker in a dream bout with Anthony Joshua. We also delve into his background growing up in poverty and his subsequent relationship with money, celebrity speaking events and creating Unicorns with Duco Events.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
1/23/2022 • 1 hour, 43 minutes, 29 seconds
Marina Erakovic: What it's really like to be a tennis pro in NZ
We talk to Marina about moving to NZ as a six year old from war-torn Yugoslavia, the special treatment she got at high school as a 'minor celebrity', behind the scenes stories about what life is really like for a touring tennis pro, why the media never got the best out of her, her creative Instagram account and why her Wikipedia page is so intense. Show notes | Marina Erakovic1.51 Has Marina picked up a racquet to play a game of tennis since retirement? 5.35 What is Marina up to now? The post-tennis journey: further education, medical school, or working in the real world at PwC!9.24 How Seamus and Steve know Marina and a summary from Will Ward11.58 The Mad Era: the musical journey of Marina Erakovic19.25 Instagram v reality and one of the most detailed Wikipedia page’s ever25.24 A stint as a field reporter on the Crowd Goes Wild and making Andrew Mulligan eat his own words28.05 Moving to New Zealand as a six-year-old who didn’t speak English35.04 The rise to no1 tennis player in New Zealand by the age of 1546.01 Who were Marina’s contemporaries on the world junior tour and the process to becoming a pro?50.01 Painting a picture of the cost of a professional career: financial and personal57.41 Marina takes us behind the scenes of life on the tour: meditation, problem solving, and concerts1.03.11 Mixing with the big names on tour and becoming a player representative on the WTA1.07.33 Tennis in New Zealand: The Williams sisters come to Auckland, the battle with High Performance Sport NZ, and Marina’s Olympic experience1.17.19 Advice for upcoming tennis players and Tennis NZ1.20.24 The physical toll a career on the tennis circuit has taken on Marina1.26.21 What triggered the return to tennis?1.28.48 Serving up some topical tennis questions: Novak Djokovic, Peng Shuai, Naomi Osaka1.35.58 Doubles chat1.38.28 The transition to normal life from the tennis tour1.42.18 Last words from Steven, Seamus and MarinaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
1/9/2022 • 1 hour, 44 minutes, 8 seconds
Between Two Beers: The best of 2021
Steve and Seamus reflect on their years on and off the mic, then select some of the best clips from the 28 guests in 2021.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
12/27/2021 • 2 hours, 9 minutes, 59 seconds
Dai Henwood: Life of the party to zen master
We talk about the time Dai slept in a cricket bag for six months during his OE, his breakdown in 2003 after bombing in Edinburgh – and how Brett McKenzie from Flight of the Conchords helped him bounce back, the most controversial things said on 7 days, his journey to sobriety, reflections on the old Dai and his rise to the top of the NZ comedy scene. We also got him to answer a series of stitch-up questions sent in from friend of the show Ben Hurley. Show notes | Episode 65 | Dai Henwood1.32 Cricket chat! 3 wickets at social cricket, the Henwood / Hurley Invitational, Twanga Delhi Super Soakers, and Last Man Stands4.39 Familiar memories: Pulp Comedy, P Funk Chainsaw, and Time-after-Time together with not so familiar memories: the Oceania All Stars v LA Galaxy curtain raiser, and the Power Rangers!?9.19 “The best comedian of our generation and also one of the best humans as well”14.35 Sleeping in a cricket bag for six months during an OE19.51 A mental breakdown in Edinburgh and the importance of Bret McKenzie from the Flight of the Concords on his bouncing back27.32 Comparing the arts with sport and failing hard and failing fast32.10 The rise of Dai Henwood: C4, Insert Video Here, Roll the Dai, and touring NZ as a stand-up comedian39.31 What was life like for Dai at the peak of his powers and the transition to sobriety49.00 Life optimisation: Wim Hof, meditation, and tea59.53 Reflecting on the “old” Dai Henwood1.05.00 New Zealand’s broadcasting standards and looking back over 11 years of 7 Days1.17.21 Hosting Family Feud and working with humble kiwis1.22.16 Dancing with the Stars: Live TV and David Seymour twerking1.25.45 A series of stitch up questions from Ben Hurley1.31.52 A beat up on the Melbourne Storm and the brilliance of Craig Bellamy1.36.12 Joining the Alternative Commentary Collective and the Mad Monday Podcast1.39.39 A Warriors interlude, a fitting farewell for Ray Henwood and a brief intro to Carolyn Henwood1.44.35 Last words from Steven, Seamus and DaiSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
12/12/2021 • 1 hour, 46 minutes, 20 seconds
Chelsea Lane: How to make it in the NBA
Chelsea Lane's story is extraordinary. After working in NZ for over a decade as a physio and with high performance sport NZ, she got an email from the NBA champion Golden State Warriors in 2015, asking for her help.Within a year, she was working with some of the biggest sport stars in the world as a performance therapist.Within two years she was running the whole operation, leading a team of 25 as the head of physical performance and sports medicine at the Warriors.Within three years she had two NBA Championship rings and was one of the NBA’s most coveted backroom staffers.She was then headhunted by the Atlanta Hawks, offered an executive role and within five years of leaving New Zealand was the Vice President of an NBA franchise.Now she's moved back home to NZ, and told us all about her incredible journey (and what its like being bffs with the world's biggest stars).Show notes | Episode 64 | Chelsea Lane2.06 Tennis lessons, living life “off the grid”, being absent from social media, and ANOTHER Emma Twigg reference6.46 Chelsea Lane in their words: Steph Curry, Andre Igoudala, and Sarah Cowley-Ross10.17 Receiving an email from the Golden State Warriors and meeting head coach Steve Kerr16.57 Why did the Golden State Warriors chase Chelsea Lane?19.45 Progressing through the ranks in the role26.38 Being female in the NBA33.29 What did the role actually look like?37.33 Is US professional sports as cold as it sounds?42.31 In the huddle: pearls of wisdom from Steve Kerr and others52.02 In the locker room: routines, winning NBA championships1.03.08 The realities of working in the NBA1.08.27 Chelsea Lane on Kevin Durant1.11.38 From hands on treatment to the boardroom: Shifting to the Atlanta Hawks1.22.17 Comparing Golden State to Atlanta1.24.45 Getting Vince Carter fit for an 82 game season at age 421.28.00 Leaving the NBA1.32.43 Is there a dream job here for Chelsea in New Zealand?1.37.03 An interlude: Booking accommodation in Switzerland1.38.26 Other kiwis in the NBA: Steven Adams and Sean Marks1.39.42 A bit of Steph Curry1.42.10 Last words from Steven, Seamus and ChelseaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
11/28/2021 • 1 hour, 46 minutes, 14 seconds
Leigh Hart: A comedy of errors
In this episode we separate fact from fiction surrounding Leigh’s unbelievable childhood in Peru, We recount his first appearance on SportsCafe as a professional snail racer, the reason he left Bhuja, the best stories from the Bermuda Triangle, the secrets behind Late Night Big Breakfasts’s success, his plans for the future and so much more. Show notes | Episode 63 | Leigh Hart | A comedy of errors1.52 Wakachangi in can, promoting Between Two Beers glasses, and a couple of Leigh Hart super fans out themselves6.48 Some Snackachangi chat9.54 Fact or fiction: Growing up at the top of the Andes in Peru?17.12 A brief summary of post-Peru Leigh takes us to the early stages of his TV career24.17 The Snail Racer and Sports Café33.48 The importance of Ric Salizzo38.30 Brent Spillane: The man behind the camera42.55 Behind the scenes of some of the Sports Café classic segments54.05 Was the Bermuda Triangle episode of Mysterious Planet the basis of the script to The Hangover?1.00.05 Mysterious Planet: “It was my favourite show”1.06.14 Are the guests in on the gags?1.16.51 A couple Late Night Big Breakfast highlights: Mike the Mongolian throat singer1.20.45 How an idea evolves: The Hamsterman from Amsterdam1.24.29 Radio Hauraki and Bhuja with Jason Hoyte1.35.32 Evolving over time1.38.27 Reflecting on the Alternative Commentary Collective1.51.43 The Wakachangi story with a bit of Snackachangi, Arty D, and Hellers sausages1.58.00 Retaining content rights and moonflix.co.nz2.01.17 Looking back over 25 years of comedy and looking forward to what the future might hold2.06.54 Leigh on being true to your comedy craft2.10.24 Last words from Steven, Seamus and LeighSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
11/7/2021 • 2 hours, 14 minutes, 10 seconds
Tom Walsh: The best stories from out of the circle
In this episode we talk about getting mistaken for Joe Moody, unusual encounters with old fans, his rivalry with Jacko Gill, the drama, confusion and emotion in Tokyo, what life’s like on the road with other giant men, the humiliating forfeits he plans with his coach, why his Gold Coast Gold was tinged with disappointment and so much more. Show notes | Episode 62 | Tom Walsh |1.38 Time away from shot put, Walshot, and an “A List” athlete4.34 Putting drug testers to good use after an appearance on a Japanese game show7.45 An older fan base in Ashburton9.58 “Nice to meet you Joe Moody”12.06 The enigma of Jacko Gill21.01 The no-throws at Tokyo 202029.53 The emotion after the medal ceremony and pressure before Tokyo41.18 An Emma Twigg interlude43.29 Ryan Crouser and stories from the big boys of the shot put circuit53.23 Teenage Tom Walsh: cricket, rugby (and athletics)1.03.41 Is going full time with shot put financially sustainable?1.07.00 The athlete / coach relationship with Dale Stevenson1.09.26 Reflecting on the Commonwealth Games1.14.47 Winning the world championships with a 7cm tear in the groin1.21.46 The Halberg Awards and meeting the Black Caps1.29.12 How good is Tom at supporting other athletes?1.31.56 21 in 20 in Christchurch in the lead up to the Tokyo Olympics1.33.05 Looking ahead to 2022 and last words from Steven, Seamus and TomSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
10/31/2021 • 1 hour, 37 minutes, 49 seconds
DJ Forbes: Secrets from a life of sevens
Show notes | Episode 61 | DJ Forbes |1.52 Lockdown beards, Olympic lifting, Pacific Games, haka’s in the rain, and the never-ending fend-off meme5.01 DJ and Pacific contemporary dance6.54 Who was pre-rugby sevens DJ Forbes?12.07 Samoan influences growing up15.03 Leaving school for the ‘real world’20.07 Talking Titch: reflections on Sir Gordon Tietjens26.13 Feats of fitness: beep tests, yo-yo’s, and broncos34.13 Titch and DJ: Good cop, bad cop?41.50 “Death” training and sevens camps50.08 How room raiding made it all worthwhile1.02.49 An interlude with Steve’s stag do and when gags go wrong with Shaun Goldsbury1.06.13 The 2016 Rio Olympic Games1.12.04 The transition out of professional sport1.18.01 Identity, connection and faith1.25.21 Carlin Isles, Perry Baker and attending rugby sevens as a fan1.31.11 Food chat: The hunt for the “perfect” donut and dumplings in the Olympic village1.35.52 A pimped out scooter, huge traps, and last words from Steven, Seamus and DJSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
10/24/2021 • 1 hour, 40 minutes, 1 second
Ben Hurley: The world of Kiwi comedy
We talk about the most interesting experiences across seven years as Match Day host for the Black Caps, *that* one night he went out with Laura McGoldrick, Martin Guptill and Jesse Ryder in Nelson, making a living in the Wellington comedy scene alongside Flight of the Conchords and Taika Waititi, the best stories across a decade at 7days and what the future of comedy looks like in NZ. 1.34 Covid chat, similarities between Seamus and Ben: World Series Cricket and 90s rugby league trading cards, and a staple in the Holloway household from the late 90s through to present day6.56 Seven years as the Match Day Host for NZ Cricket10.53 White wines at the NRL Grand Final13.38 A night out in Nelson with Laura McGoldrick, Martin Guptill, and Jesse Ryder16.24 From small town Hawera to Victoria University: the making of Ben Hurley24.11 Tracing the comedy journey: dying for the first time, riffing, and honing material over time33.43 The Wellington comedy scene: Ben Hurley, some guys called Flight of the Conchords, and Taika Cohen!?39.01 The importance of Pulp Comedy41.36 Then and now: competition between New Zealand comedians and podcasts45.07 Going to the UK and a Rose Matefao interlude48.35 Back to New Zealand and the launch of 7 Days56.26 Crossing over into mainstream TV: The Project and the dream job on Seven Sharp1.01.20 Cricket chat: the Comedians XI, commentating the World Test Championship with the ACC1.07.34 Social media, TikTok comedy, and breaking through in 20211.09.35 Mad Monday: Hurley’s Heroes, Owen Delany Park, and OnlyFans1.16.00 Eddie Murphy stand up, cancel culture, Jason Pine and last words from Steven, Seamus and BenSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
10/17/2021 • 1 hour, 19 minutes, 19 seconds
Sir John Kirwan: Mastering the mind
In this episode we talk about JK’s son Niko becoming an All White, the challenges of being an outspoken TV pundit with SKY TV in a rugby landscape where everyone knows everyone, why he left school at 15 and the lessons he learned from his dad, his experiences rooming with Jonah Lomu and how he met his wife when she didn’t speak a word of English. In the second half of this episode we follow JK’s mental health journey. A warning, there is chat of suicide and difficult themes, alongside some really powerful, important messagesShow notes | Episode 59 | Sir John Kirwan |***Disclaimer***This episode deals with issues of anxiety, depression, and suicide. If you or anyone you know is struggling with these sorts of issues, Lifeline Aotearoa’s helpline and textline provides 24/7, confidential support from qualified counsellors and trained volunteers. Text ‘Help’ to 4357 or call 0800 LIFELINE (0800 543 354).2.04 A big week for JK with his son Niko getting the call up to the All Whites5.53 “Why I Am” a book bought by Seamus for a friend11.10 JK and his kids: Francesca, Niko, Luca19.02 Critiquing former teammates, strong opinions, conflict and confrontation29.28 Lessons from a dad: The making of JK37.45 Are you willing to pay the price?47.01 Turning into the world’s best51.36 Old school v new school57.02 The mental health journey1.05.55 Speaking publicly about mental health1.11.22 Other New Zealand voices in mental health1.13.55 Normalising the mental health conversation1.20.30 Crying, anger, and alcohol1.28.18 Reflecting on the Cavaliers tour of 19861.32.31 Speaking Italian1.34.16 From mate to bro: JK on Jonah Lomu1.37.13 Rugby League and the Warriors1.39.27 Last words from Steven, Seamus and JKSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
10/10/2021 • 1 hour, 41 minutes, 29 seconds
Laura McGoldrick: What you don't see on camera
Laura is a broadcaster, presenter, radio host, MC and part time actress and one of the most popular faces on television in New Zealand. Show notes:1.46 The Guptill / McGoldrick wedding: including Jason Gunn as MC, a star-studded table, and the Matt Heath rendition of Deja Voodoo’s “Beers”8.30 Who am I? “I took her to my school leavers’ ball. She’s my best mate’s sister and it was a top notch night. But I think she danced with my dad more than me though L”11.07 Reflections on the Cricket World Cup Super Over from a broadcast and partner point-of-view and the aftermath on the pitch23.18 Back to 2015 and doubling down on Cricket World Cup disappointment25.36 Meeting Guppy for the first time on The Cricket Show28.55 Growing up in Christchurch with her dad running Jade Stadium and her mum the super-agent34.08 Not just athletes: Jason Gunn, Phillip Leishman and acting 38.16 The Stephen Colbert experience 44.02 Meeting Meghan Markle48.56 Cutting her teeth on The Cricket Show53.31 Life in front of the camera 56.40 Live events: the Dame Valerie Adams gold medal ceremony and covering the Olympic Games 1.01.14 An Emma Twigg interlude1.04.22 Radio: Laura’s time at Radio Hauraki and moving into The Hits1.10.14 The challenges of being a women in a male-dominated field1.16.10 The Pakistan tour and being a partner of a cricketer1.19.55 Laura’s process for MCing and hosting the Cricket World Cup opening ceremony1.24.17 The Harlem Globetrotters of cricket1.27.32 Where is the journey heading?1.29.00 Last words from Steven, Seamus and LauraSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
10/3/2021 • 1 hour, 31 minutes, 27 seconds
Pita Taufatofua: After the opening ceremony
Pita is best known as the oiled up, shirtless Tongan flagbearer who achieved worldwide fame at the Rio Olympics in 2016, but that’s only scratching the surface of his story. Show notes | Episode 57 | Pita Taufatofua| 1.52 Seamus as one of millions who tagged Pita on Instagram back in 2016 and Steven learns about his exploits over the past 48 hours5.41 The 24 hours after the opening ceremony in Rio de Janeiro16.18 Would you do anything differently?17.59 On being a sex symbol and getting objectified in the media22.20 Growing up in Tonga and the influence of his family27.32 “20 years of work for 30 seconds of shine”31.03 The start of the Olympic dream in 199634.35 Turning down a million dollar Hollywood opportunity post-Olympics41.15 Giving back: using his platform as leverage to talk about social causes46.05 From taekwondo to cross country skiing54.10 Dealing with criticism57.07 The last race in Iceland to qualify for the Winter Olympics1.10.42 Sacrifice: $40,000 of credit card debt and losing people along the way1.15.37 Famous faces along the way: Snoop Dogg & Kevin Hart, Morgan Freeman, Prince Harry & Meghan Markle1.22.26 Trying to qualify for a third Olympics in sprint kayaking1.26.02 Pita on the Olympics and mental health1.29.48 Next steps? Paris 2024? Training facilities in the Pacific1.33.32 Last words from Steven, Seamus and PitaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
9/19/2021 • 1 hour, 29 minutes, 31 seconds
Eugene Bareman: More than a coach
In this episode we talk to Eugene Bareman, businessman, fighter and coach of two current UFC champions.Show notes:1.50 Between Three Beards?3.46 Training professional fighters in Level 4 lockdown9.27 The link to Eugene through his sister Sarai Bareman11.06 Back at Massey High School: rugby, study, and the turning point of his life21.45 Family fundamentals: Provide for your children, back yourself, learn from your mistakes25.15 Law school and falling in love with fighting31.07 Eugene Bareman: the fighter35.06 On mental toughness39.32 The ambition to get to 50 fights43.26 Has this journey gone better than imagined?46.13 Getting into the UFC51.00 Israel Adesanya1.00.05 Behind the scenes of a UFC fight night: locker room and between rounds1.12.13 Reacting to losses in combat sports1.18.53 City Kickboxing: Changing lives1.26.10 The weight of responsibility1.29.52 Hard work, pranks and banter1.34.23 The role of the trainer in combat sports1.39.37 Getting recognised overseas1.41.31 Last words from Steven, Seamus and EugeneSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
9/12/2021 • 1 hour, 44 minutes, 20 seconds
Paddy Gower: The Conrad Smith of journalism
In this episode we find out why Paddy is best known for saying 'this is the fuckin news', what Steve experienced when he went to a Hamilton pub with Paddy after midnight, how All Black Conrad Smith helped him prepare for the leaders debate, the time he left his passport behind when travelling with John Key in Iraq, the breakdown that led to him quitting as Newshub Political Editor, the horror interview he’ll never forget and much more.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
9/5/2021 • 1 hour, 51 minutes, 57 seconds
Jimmy Neesham: Back from the brink of retirement
In this episode we talk about how Jimmy went from the brink of retirement to almost delivering New Zealand the 2019 World Cup, what it’s like to get a spray from Brendon McCullum as a young player, how his social media following got so GIGANTIC – and the time he was mobbed on the streets of India, the heartbreak of missing out on NZ’s home World Cup and his future goals for red-ball cricket.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
8/29/2021 • 1 hour, 45 minutes, 14 seconds
Sarah Hirini: Farm-girl to flagbearer
In this episode we talked about Sarah's rugged Fielding farm-girl upbringing, why Honey Hireme-Smiler considers her the greatest leader she’s ever played with, the emotional rollercoaster of the last six months after tragically losing her mum, how the eccentric Ruby Tui won the world’s heart and all the best yarns from leading the Black Ferns sevens to gold in Tokyo.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
8/12/2021 • 1 hour, 21 minutes, 22 seconds
BJ Watling: The 'perfect' test career
In this episode we talk about BJ's ‘perfect’ career arc, his short-form cricket regrets, what happened in the changing room after the WTC win, what happened when a ND coach tried to stop him from smoking, what he talked about in between overs with Brendon McCullum during their epic 352-rin partnership and why he was Baz’s favourite oplayer, the toughest bowler he ever faced and so much more.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
8/1/2021 • 1 hour, 30 minutes, 2 seconds
Jason Pine: Tales from a life of broadcasting
We talk about why Piney decided to leave NZME after 28 years of service, and then why he decided to leave his new job at SENZ radio station within a few months. He gives his thoughts on former SENZ producer Sam Casey’s controversial column on women’s rugby that saw him lose his job, the best stories from working at the 2010 World Cup and *that* night against Bahrain in 2009, how he knew Hilary Barry was going to be a big star, dealing with the loss of friend and mentor Graeme Moody, why he gets so angry at indoor football and much, much more.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
7/13/2021 • 1 hour, 55 minutes, 35 seconds
Ryan Nelsen: The best stories from a career in the EPL
We hear Ryan's best stories from eight years in the EPL, his frustrations with the All Whites in 2010, what it was like playing with Tugay, Gareth Bale, Harry Kane and Luke Modric, and against Henry and Berkamp, Ronaldinho and Neymar, the time he 'made the moves' on Chelsea Clinton at Stanford university, fought El Hadji Djouf at Everton and so, so many other cracking yarns from an incredible career.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
6/17/2021 • 1 hour, 52 minutes, 14 seconds
Rebecca Rolls: An exceptional life on and off the field
Rebecca was the Football Ferns goalkeeper from 1994-96, before switching codes to cricket, and playing over 100 games for the White Ferns where she won a World Cup. Then, at the age of 36 she returned to football, 16 years after walking away from the game, and went to a further two Olympic Games and one Football World Cup. She’s also worked for 10 years with the NZ police and held senior positions at the Ministry of Health, Serious Fraud Office and Department of Corrections. She is also a Director of NZ Cricket, about to start a new job as the Diversity and inclusion manager at Sport NZ and is a commentator for Spark Sport.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
6/3/2021 • 1 hour, 30 minutes, 2 seconds
Jeremy Redmore: Tales from the top of NZ music
Jeremy was the lead singer of Midnight Youth, who were probably NZ’s biggest rock band from 2009-2012. In this episode we talk about the band's wild ride; Jeremy’s transition from journalist to musician, the fame – and attention he got on night's out, stories from backstage at the Big Day Out, the manager who ripped them off and why the band split up. We find out why he walked away from music to make coffee in Canada for a few years, and the break-up that brought him back to his guitar.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
5/20/2021 • 1 hour, 48 minutes, 27 seconds
Danny Hay: All Whites captain, critic and coach
In this episode we talk about Danny's time at Leeds playing with Rio Ferdinand, Harry Kewell, Mark Viduka and Jonathan Woodgate, his Champions League debut against Barcelona at the Nou Camp infront of 90,000 people, playing against Man United at Old Trafford, why Ole Gunnar Solsjkaer is the smartest player he's ever seen, the nine groin operations across three seasons that killed his dreams of playing at the top level and his coaching influences and philosophies.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
5/13/2021 • 1 hour, 48 minutes, 28 seconds
Honey Hireme-Smiler: 'Punk kid' to cross-code superstar
In this episode we talk about how Honey fared at the Putaruru athletics championships as a teenager, some of the toughest times from her childhood – and how she turned a corner, why she only discovered her legal name as a teenager, the sudden loss of her mum and the lessons in strength she received from her final weeks, why she peaked as an athlete in her mid 30s and the time she skipped from a sevens World Cup to a rugby league World Cup in a week.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
5/6/2021 • 1 hour, 36 minutes, 49 seconds
Scotty Stevenson: Media all-rounder and expert bartender
In this episode we talk about the highs and lows of commentating on the All Blacks for the first time at the Rugby World Cup, his transformative running journey and the race that made him cry, why he left SKY to join Spark, why he dropped out of journalism school to be a bartender, the problems with sports media in New Zealand and his biggest influences in sport media.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
4/29/2021 • 1 hour, 41 minutes, 45 seconds
Paul Ifill: The best stories you haven't heard
On this episode of Between Two Beers we talk to Paul Ifill. We talk to Paul Ifill about the time he tore his groin celebrating Tim Cahill’s winner in the 2004 FA Cup semi-final, playing against Ronaldo, Giggs, Scholes, Keane and Van Nisteloory in the final, the time he was dropped due to one of Neil Warnock’s wife's dreams, his experiences with Keith Gillespie – who gambled away 7 million pounds across his career, why he’s a part owner of a petrol station in Sierra leone, and why he hung one of Steve's columns from his fridge in 2015.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
4/22/2021 • 1 hour, 50 minutes, 19 seconds
Peter O'Leary: The gag-man behind the whistle
In this episode we get O'Leary to officiate on some unresolved Between Two Beers matters, we go in-depth on his experience at the 2014 World Cup, where he received death threats as the result of a mistake his team made during a match between Bosnia and Nigeria, we talk about the time he was plucked out of the stand to officiate during a Premier League match, the time he pulled a condom out of his pocket in the middle of a game and the health of refeering in NZ.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
4/15/2021 • 1 hour, 25 minutes, 56 seconds
David Liti: NZ's strongest man
How Liti can do the splits at 180kgs, why a doctor told David not to compete at the Commonwealth Games, and why he ignored the advice, the pains and struggles of balancing his weighlifting dreams and family expectations, how his life changed after winning gold at Comm Games, how he would expect to win gold at Tokyo if the sport was clean, and that one time he put on 11kgs of weight in 7 days after a competition.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
4/8/2021 • 1 hour, 45 minutes, 11 seconds
David Higgins: NZ's most intriguing mind
How Higgins got Tua and Cameron to fight, why he lost control at the infamous Hughie Fury press conference in London and how he feared for his life in the aftermath, growing up in poverty, his relationship with money and how he manufactured a rivalry between Parker and Anthony Joshua that earned Parker a world title fight.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
2/21/2021 • 1 hour, 44 minutes, 39 seconds
Kevin Fallon: NZ's most famous football coach
We talk about the struggles of coaching a national league team as a 24-year-old in Gisborne, the time he fought Ken Dugdale at training, what it was like watching his son Rory score the winner against Bahrain on that special night in Wellington, his reflections on his controversial sacking from Mount Albert Grammar school and how he turned Gisborne into a footballing juggernaught.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
2/9/2021 • 1 hour, 38 minutes, 21 seconds
Tim Wigmore: How elite athletes are made
Author Tim Wigmore expands on why younger siblings have far more chance of becoming elite athletes, why medium-sized towns produce the most superstars, the role of informal play in creating pros, why right-handed kid cricketers should start batting left-handed, how Jamie Carragher made it to the top of world football despite a lack of athletic gifts, how sleep is the next frontier for advancement in sport and much, much more.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
1/7/2021 • 1 hour, 15 minutes, 26 seconds
Roger Wilkinson: The best coach with the worst jokes
We talk about Rog's most memorable and fiery sideline confrontations, why Chris Wood made it when many other talented young Kiwis have failed, why his son Sam never made it as a player, where the relentless joke-telling comes from and why his Hamilton Soccer Shop never quite made it.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
12/27/2020 • 1 hour, 44 minutes, 24 seconds
Eric Murray: The stories you haven't heard
Eric talks about fighting Manu Vatuvei in the 2012 Fight for Life, competing in a TV show to find NZ’s toughest man, nights out in Switzerland – including the time he wrestled a swan into a pub, the infamous meeting when Dick Tonks blew his lid at the Kiwi Pair, and how having a son with autism changed him.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
11/24/2020 • 1 hour, 54 minutes, 58 seconds
Matt Heath: TV star, radio star, fake musician
Matt’s humiliating experience at Laura McGoldrick’s wedding, reflections on playing Danny Parker in Back of the Y Masterpiece television, How his ‘fake’ band Dejavoodo got a record contract, the time he made Jacquie Brown cry and the realities of working with Jeremy Wells on breakfast radio.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
11/17/2020 • 1 hour, 41 seconds
Bruce Holloway: Steve's dad the perennial pot stirrer
Bruce talks about his controversial match reports and the coaches and players he's upset, his relationship with Declan Edge and why they are no longer friends on Twitter, his opinion of the proposed national league change, the time a player physically threatened him following a spicy article and why he was so pissed off Steve transferred from Bay Olympic to Glenfield.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
11/12/2020 • 1 hour, 33 minutes, 48 seconds
Des Buckingham: Why NZ's best coach had to leave
Des reflects on losing his job at NZ Football and we ask if he’ll ever return, we talk success and heartbreak at the under 20 World Cup in Poland, How he used Sarpreet Singh’s acting skills to improve team culture, what high performance coaching really teaches you and he answers your questions from social media.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
10/13/2020 • 2 hours, 2 minutes, 13 seconds
Emma Twigg: NZ's rowing world champion
We talk about the fine line between high performance training and bullying, why Emma retired from rowing, and why she came back, sexuality and sport, her roller blading obsession, training with her rowing heroes, cycling home from Switzerland, becoming a real-estate agent and we compare Seamus and Emma’s times on the rowing machine.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
10/1/2020 • 1 hour, 47 minutes, 38 seconds
Mike Lane: NZ's best (and worst) story teller
We talk about the worst things the ACC has said on air, what it’s like managing Matt Heath, Jeremy Wells, Leigh Hart and Jason Hoyte, what really happened when the ICC booted Lane’s commentary team from the World Cup, playing high school cricket with Dan Vettori, battling and beating cancer, the ACCs complicated relationship with New Zealand cricket and the future of sports broadcasting in New Zealand.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
9/22/2020 • 2 hours, 25 minutes, 15 seconds
Jonathan Gould: Observations from a career with superstars
We talk about playing with Henrik Larsson in his prime, winning Old Firm derbies, playing against Man United featuring Cantona, Giggs and the rest of the Class of '92, facing Ronaldo R9 at the World Cup, and we explore his thoughts on promotion/relegation in the NZ national league and the testing times facing local football.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
9/9/2020 • 1 hour, 54 minutes, 29 seconds
Jeremy Christie: The face of NZ's 1999 World Cup
We talk about the 'genius' brain of Tim Brown, living with Winston Reid for a year in London, playing for the All Whites against Mexico in front of 100,000 people despite not having a club and his new life in Orlando.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
8/27/2020 • 2 hours, 16 minutes, 48 seconds
Dave Williams: Marathon mountain man, inspiring change
We talk about failure, near death experiences, grizzly bears, 100km winds, mental strength, drama at gunpoint, conquering ego, and asking for help.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
8/5/2020 • 2 hours, 6 minutes, 24 seconds
Dylan Cleaver: Probably NZ's best sports journalist
We discuss match-fixing, mysterious tip-offs, the state of sport journalism in NZ, why he won’t let his kids play rugby, life on tour with the ACC and much more.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
7/28/2020 • 2 hours, 16 minutes, 20 seconds
Sarah Gregorius: Ferns centurion, media pundit, global leader
Tumultuous times with Andreas Heraf, training with men, retiring twice, becoming a centurion, walking away from Sky.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
7/15/2020 • 1 hour, 48 minutes, 18 seconds
Priscilla Duncan: Football, media, love and sacrifice
Priscilla played at one World Cup and worked at seven. We cover all the highlights of an incredible career.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
6/30/2020 • 1 hour, 53 minutes, 36 seconds
Shaun Goldsbury: How I won millions playing online poker
Shaun won over $2 million across a five-year career as a professional online poker player. He tells the story of how he did it, and then transitioned his skills into corporate success.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
6/16/2020 • 1 hour, 53 minutes, 34 seconds
Aaron Clapham: NZ's best amateur footballer
Aaron Clapham is arguably NZ's best footballer never to play professionally. We talk about his career highs and lows, tour mishaps, TV career, Ryan Nelsen and much more.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
6/11/2020 • 1 hour, 41 minutes, 18 seconds
Dwayne Sweeney: Waikato rugby's legendary tales
Sweeney’s epic, emotional tale of Morrinsville’s 2009 Breweries Shield win, making NPC debut as a schoolboy, insane sevens trainings, pushing tin with NZ Rugby's strongest man, Waikato pub crawls and much more.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
6/4/2020 • 2 hours, 46 minutes, 23 seconds
Ross McKenzie: Life after being a US college soccer superstar
Macca is one of New Zealand Football’s great characters: Passionate, outspoken, laid-back and always up for a laugh.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
5/21/2020 • 1 hour, 34 minutes, 37 seconds
Anton Devcich: NZ cricket's 'maverick'
Anton Devcich is one of New Zealand cricket's most entertaining players and has played in nearly every T20 comp around the world.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
5/13/2020 • 1 hour, 19 minutes, 42 seconds
Chris James: The outspoken All White
The All Whites star talks Twitter outbursts, Des Buckingham, Fulham, getting knocked out by a teammate, Anthony Hudson, trial story shockers and much more.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
5/7/2020 • 2 hours, 41 minutes, 17 seconds
Jimmy Pamment: Tales from the top of NZ cricket and football
Jimmy has won the world's richest cricket comp as a coach, played and coached national league football in NZ, played first class cricket and coached Northern Districts.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
4/28/2020 • 1 hour, 50 minutes, 17 seconds
Jeremy Brockie: From dreadlocks to lockdowns
Jeremy Brockie has played over 50 times for the All Whites and is now a professional footballer in South Africa, and a social media star.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
4/21/2020 • 1 hour, 52 minutes, 46 seconds
Mark Fulcher: The world's first player / doctor
Fulcher is a former NZ national league footballer who went to the Club World Cup with Auckland City as a player/doctor. These are his incredible stories.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
4/14/2020 • 1 hour, 46 minutes, 23 seconds
Danny Robinson: Mad man on the pitch, nice guy off it
'Robbo' was named the NZ national league goalkeeper of the decade and is now the Burton Albion academy manager. He shares his best stories from a life between the sticks.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
4/8/2020 • 1 hour, 26 minutes, 52 seconds
'Ask me anything' with Steve Holloway and Seamus Marten
The hosts Steven Holloway and Seamus Marten answer all your questions.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
3/8/2020 • 1 hour, 47 minutes, 16 seconds
Declan Edge: NZ's most outspoken football coach
Declan Edge is one of New Zealand football's best coaches, but also one of its greatest characters.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
3/1/2020 • 1 hour, 36 minutes, 15 seconds
Maia Jackman: The face of women's football in NZ
Maia opens up about her experiences working as a physio under controversial Ferns coach Andreas Heraf, the highs and lows of the John Herdman era, the complicated world of romantic relationships with teammates, and the perks of being a FIFA Legend.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
2/25/2020 • 2 hours, 9 minutes, 2 seconds
Kris Bright: Not a football nomad
Kris Bright had one of New Zealand's most incredible football careers. His professional football odyssey spanned 12 years across 13 clubs and 11 countries. And he has lots of stories.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
2/11/2020 • 1 hour, 58 minutes, 17 seconds
Chris Rattue: The most divisive man in NZ sport
The time Rattue accidentally deleted a match report a minute before deadline at the World Cup, how much ‘hate mail’ he receives, if he ever manufactures opinions, the time he pissed off a whole country and his battles with alcohol.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
2/4/2020 • 1 hour, 22 minutes, 4 seconds
Cole Tinkler: Peaked at 16
We track Cole Tinkler's footballing journey, and uncover the many reasons why his career never quite reached the heights of his ability.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
1/28/2020 • 1 hour, 51 minutes
Joe Edwards: DJ, lawyer, footballer
Joe Edwards is a partner at NZ's premier law firm Russell McVeagh who has won five Northern Premier League titles, played over 300 Northern League games and scored 100 goals.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
1/21/2020 • 1 hour, 40 minutes, 54 seconds
Michael Gwyther: Local legend on and off the pitch
Michael Gwyther is perhaps NZ football's most entertaining character. He's Glenfield Rovers best player of all time, but his collection of off-field stories are unmatched.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
1/14/2020 • 1 hour, 37 minutes, 59 seconds
Sam Wilkinson: The Method Man
Child prodigy, turned Phoenix coach Sam Wilkinson opens up about his turbulent fallout at Auckland City, highs and lows of Melville, playing with Chris Wood and much more.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
12/25/2019 • 1 hour, 49 minutes, 30 seconds
Roland Jeffrey: Tales from the treatment room
Roland has been the All Whites physio for over 100 games and has an unmatched locker of dressing room stories to tell from the World Cup, Olympics, Phoenix and Glenfield Rovers changing room.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
12/17/2019 • 1 hour, 23 minutes, 8 seconds
Neil Emblen: One of football’s nice guys
All Whites assistant coach Neil Emblen opens up on Anthony Hudson, Colorado Rapids, Wolves, All Whites, Ryan Nelson, Tim Howard, Roy Krishna and much more.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
12/10/2019 • 1 hour, 54 minutes, 27 seconds
Che Bunce: Making amends with Steve Holloway
Former All White Che Bunce opens up on turbulent times with the NZ Knights, his incredible 15-club career, clashes with Ricki Herbert, coaching frustrations and his difficult transition into the 'real world'.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
11/17/2019 • 1 hour, 27 minutes, 36 seconds
Paul Nixon: One of NZ’s greatest football exports
In this hour-long conversation with Kiwi football legend Paul Nixon we chat about his fight with former England skipper Gerry Francis on a Bristol team bus, his fall-out with Declan Edge following the 2003 Chatham Cup final and how the death of his wife changed his perspective om life.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
11/10/2019 • 1 hour, 11 minutes, 3 seconds
Aaron Scott: Waikato football legend
Former All White Aaron Scott talks about playing amateur football with Roy Krishna, life with four young kids, wasted footballing talent, being mismanaged by the All Whites and lots more.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.