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Flat Earth vs Science: A Physicist, A Fighter Pilot & Two Flat Earthers -Michael Sartain Podcast
Flat Earth Dave (IG: @TheFlatEarthPodcast) and Jeran (IG: @Jeranism) are the hosts of the Flat Earth Podcast. Dr Sergei Dyda (IG: @Sergi_Himself) is a theoretical physicist from the University of Virginia. Adam Beultel (IG: @AdamBeultel) is a navy F-18 instructor pilot. Subscribe on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/MichaelSartain Learn more about Michael’s Men of Action Mentoring Program: https://go.moamentoring.com/i/2 Listen on Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-michael-sartain-podcast/id1579791157 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2faAYwvDD9Bvkpwv6umlPO?si=8Q3ak9HnSlKjuChsTXr6YQ&dl_branch=1 Filmed at Sticky Paws Studios: https://m.youtube.com/channel/UComrBVcqGLDs3Ue-yWAft8w 0:00 Intro 2:24 The Flat Earth Debate 3:26 “Physics” of the Flat Earth Model 4:34 Antartica is the basin of the flat earth 5:31 Counterpoint: The circumference of the flat earth 7:59 Counterpoint: GPS works over the ocean 10:08 Counterpoint: Using GPS in Iraq and Afghanistan 12:33 Eratosthenes 15:11 Counterpoint: Distance to the sun 17:47 Did Eratosthenes really exist? 18:05 Counterpoint: The Library of Alexandria 19:00 Distance to the sun? 20:43 Counterpoint: Parallax, orbital periods and gravity 24:00 Counterpoint: Solar system orbits with the rest of the galaxy 27:15 Venus and Mars probes fake? 28:38 Counterpoint: Mars landing explained 30:28 Empiricism works both ways 31:49 Counterpoint: Not just NASA 33:05 The Global Conspiracy 33:49 Counterpoint: This conspiracy creates world peace 35:08 Military Industrial Complex 35:32 Counterpoint: Ford was a Fascist, Afghanistan and Vietnam 36:38 Wernher von Braun, Project Paperclip and the counterpoint 38:48 Galileo, Giordano Bruno and the stripper from the Rhino 39:49 Wernher von Braun Counterpoint 41:11 SR-71 Blackbird 43:40 Aerodynamics explained 45:03 The Space Shuttle isn’t aerodynamic enough 46:02 Counterpoint: Acceleration outside the lower atmosphere 49:22 9/11 joke 50:41 “Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.” - Arthur C Clark 50:06 Dropping the fuel tanks 52:58 Counterpoint: Tanks actually falling 55:05 Is the ISS real? 57:56 Counterpoint: You can’t resolve ISS, can resolve the light 1:01:25 Counterpoint: ISS brightness 1:02:14 Empiricism vs Science 1:05:10 How does Flat Earth help you understand the world? 1:06:43 Counterpoint: Raisin bread 1:12:52 Edmund Hubble’s quote 1:14:47 Any point can be the center of the universe 1:17:15 No preferred position. Still a correct answer 1:20:06 Size of the sun? 1:22:10 Counterpoint: Empiricism vs Science pt 2 1:22:34 Dave asks for number 1 proof, then promptly changes the subject 1:22:52 Plane flying straight and level over a spinning earth 1:23:10 Counterpoint: Atmosphere rotates along with the earth 1:25:59 The wind triangle 1:26:19 Neil deGrasse Tyson 1:27:04 Felix Baumgartner 1:28:54 Counterpoint: Wind direction changes, No curvature until 50 miles up 1:30:26 Horizon not curvature of the earth? 1:32:31 Flat Earth Kitchen 1:35:38 Proxima Centauri 1:36:52 Empiricism vs Science pt 3 1:39:04 Purpose of studying astronomy 1:40:39 Neutron Stars 1:42:00 Scaling invariance 1:42:33 Counterpoint: Spectroscopy, parallax and gravity 1:44:45 Dave asks me a question, then when I answer he tells me I interrupted him 1:45:00 Light from distant stars? 1:47:05 Counterpoint: You cannot resolve the image of the star but you can still see its light 1:49:50 8in/mi^2 1:50:05 Counterpoint: Formula does not come from science, describes a parabola 1:53:26 Globe seasons 1:58:20 NASA is after me 1:58:39 Flat Earth seasons 2:01:58 Adam asks about celestial sphere 2:05:48 Adam asks about sunlight 2:06:23 Sunlight is affected by a dome? Sun is moving faster in the winter 2:08:31 Personal relationship with the Sun 2:09:11 Can’t triangulate the sun in flat earth 2:10:00 Testable predictions 2:13:04 Distance to the sun in flat earth? 2:16:12 “You too will lose the respect of your family and friends.” 2:17:08 Science educators 2:17:33 Censorship 2:19:22 PROOF 1: Flying in the Southern Hemisphere 2:20:28 Flat Earth jet streams 2:20:57 Counterpoint: Ground radar, winds aloft not fast enough 2:27:40 Nonstop flights in the Southern Hemisphere 2:29:21 FAA in on the conspiracy 2:29:48 The computer does not fly the plane 2:34:24 Counterpoint: Pilots have to back up the auto pilot 2:36:04 Great Circle Route 2:42:53 Supersonic jets 2:44:53 PROOF 2: We see the same face of the moon on all points on the earth 2:45:50 The moon is actually a projection. Counterpoint: You would see a distortion 2:48:34 PROOF 3: Can see Southern Cross in Australia, Africa and South America 2:49:32 Southern stars rotating laterally? 2:50:55 Counterpoint: Southern Cross 2:52:53 Round Earth Lunar Eclipses 2:56:21 Counterpoint: Incorrect ratios 3:01:58 Flat earth moon 3:03:35 Gemini and Apollo 3:05:14 Counterpoint: The F-22 3:05:59 Science part of the conspiracy? 3:07:31 SpaceX 3:09:19 Outro 3:11:30 Episode Wrap Up