Betches Media presents a podcast for people who love all types of sketchy things—from cults to conspiracy theories to, of course, crime—with a healthy dose of irreverent humor. Your co-hosts, Sara Levine, and Danny Murphy give the lowdown on one morbidly fascinating topic per episode. They’ll present the facts of each case, punctuated with jokes and side tangents, along with their own personal theories.
Samantha Azzopardi: Serial Conwoman
Sara and Danny are back this week with another con artist from Down Under: Samantha Azzopardi. They get into the innumerable fake identities (including that of a 14 year old girl, and the actress Dakota Johnson) that she adopted along her way from the Sydney suburbs, to Dublin, to Calgary, to prison, and back to Australia, where she once again encountered trouble with the law.
SOURCES:
https://www.womensweekly.com.au/news/samantha-azzopardi-true-story/
https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/international-con-artist-arrested-on-fraud-charges-in-northcote-20231026-p5effh.html
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-57284621
https://www.9news.com.au/national/melbourne-news-alleged-con-artist-samantha-azzopardi-withdraws-bail-application/1aa9adac-602d-4d36-a8f0-495c133720e7
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2/5/2024 • 36 minutes
The Vanishing Of Fraudster Melissa Caddick
This week, Danny covers the mysterious story of Australian conwoman Melissa Caddick. After falling victim to a romance scam in her early 20s, she pivoted to becoming a scammer herself, cheating friends and family out of millions. As the law began to catch up with her, Melissa mysteriously disappeared, only for a disembodied foot matching her DNA to wash up on the beach months later. Danny gets into the ins and outs of Melissa's scams and disappearance, as well as the theories about whether or not she faked her own death.
SOURCES:
https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/25/australia/australia-melissa-caddick-fraud-coroner-death-intl-hnk/index.html
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/may/26/the-lady-vanishes-fraudster-melissa-caddick-is-dead-but-the-intrigue-lives-on
https://www.smh.com.au/national/the-forever-friend-the-former-boss-the-ex-husband-the-early-victims-of-fraudster-melissa-caddick-20210304-p577wo.html
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1/29/2024 • 39 minutes, 36 seconds
Natalia Speaks (Ft. Amanda Duberman)
Sara is joined by Betches News director Amanda Duberman to unpack the 2nd season of MAX's docuseries The Curious Case of Natalia Grace, which focuses on Natalia's side of the story. Sara and Amanda get into it all: Natalia's traumatic experiences with the Barnett family, how things unfolded with her new family, the Mans, the "twist" ending, and and why this style of docuseries is so manipulative.
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1/22/2024 • 38 minutes, 24 seconds
Re-release: Victim F Ft. Denise Huskins & Aaron Quinn
Ahead of Netflix's American Nightmare, dropping on January 17th, we're taking a look back at Sara and Danny's interview with Denise Huskins & Aaron Quinn, the subjects of this three-part docuseries .
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1/15/2024 • 26 minutes, 29 seconds
Updates On Gypsy Rose Blanchard, Epstein Documents, And Jen Shah Vs. Andy Cohen
Sara and Danny are back with some top-of-the-year crime updates. First, Gypsy Rose Blanchard is out of prison after 8 years, and making waves on social media with comments about her husband Ryan. Next, the first batch of long-awaited court documents pertaining to Jeffrey Epstein have been released, with a number of high profile names mentioned. And finally, Andy Cohen claps back at Jen Shah's IG post from prison.
SOURCES:
https://www.eonline.com/news/1392322/gypsy-rose-blanchard-defends-husband-ryan-anderson-from-jealous-haters
https://www.yahoo.com/news/names-more-170-jeffrey-epstein-235431140.html
https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/03/business/jeffrey-epstein-documents-list-names/index.html
https://www.yahoo.com/news/clinton-trump-named-jeffrey-epstein-002504706.html
https://apnews.com/article/jeffrey-epstein-ghislaine-maxwell-virginia-giuffre-3af500d4788ad45301be426628846d71
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/jan/03/jeffrey-epstein-list-names-released
https://people.com/andy-cohen-reacts-after-jen-shah-slams-rhoslc-finale-8422054
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1/8/2024 • 28 minutes, 57 seconds
Re-release: The Curious Case of Natalia Grace Docuseries Recap
Ahead of The Curious Case of Natalia Grace: Natalia Speaks, dropping tonight on MAX, here's a look back to Sara and Danny's recap of the previous 6 part series in 2023. The Curious Case Of Natalia Grace dives into the Barnett family and the strange events that unfolded starting from Natalia's adoption, to the suspicions about her age, police involvement, Natalia's birth family in Ukraine, and the child abandonment trial.
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1/1/2024 • 48 minutes, 8 seconds
The Latest Holiday Scams To Avoid
Sara and Danny are back with some holiday scams you should be aware of: gift cards, QR codes, "Smishing," ChatGPT, and a pyramid scheme gift exchange.
SOURCES:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/shopping/2023/12/11/gift-card-scam-card-draining-holiday-shoppers-christmas/71876923007/
https://consumer.ftc.gov/consumer-alerts/2023/12/scammers-hide-harmful-links-qr-codes-steal-your-information
https://www.axios.com/2023/12/12/beware-chatgpt-holiday-scams
https://bucks.crimewatchpa.com/newbritaintwppd/34878/post/gift-card-tampering-card-draining-scam?fbclid=IwAR2UjH5BtX7_7N0gz0Sbm49SLwsK5uV9uBH4EtHUUafZt7VNlDmEEdTAeOk
https://www.bbb.org/article/scams/18854-bbb-warning-secret-sister-gift-exchange-is-illegal
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12/25/2023 • 40 minutes, 57 seconds
My Fugitive Dad Ft. Ashley Randele
Sara and Danny are joined by Ashley Randele, co-host of the new podcast Smokescreen: My Fugitive Dad. At 38 years old, Ashley learned that her father, Thomas Randele, was a bank robber and fugitive by the name of Ted Conrad. Ashley shares her experience of making this docuseries, what it was like investigating her own father's past, and what listeners can look forward to in upcoming episodes.
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12/18/2023 • 34 minutes, 21 seconds
Get Out, Leave Right Now: When Overstayed Welcomes Turn Criminal
This week, Sara and Danny dive into the world of housing disputes. First up, the story of a pair of bamboccioni (aka big babies) in Italy whose 75 year old mother took them to court for free-loading. Then, they get into an Italian Supreme Court case from 2020 about parents financially supporting their adult children. Fnally, the story of Elizabeth Hirschhorn - aka the "tenant from hell" - who refused to leave (or pay for) her LA rental mansion for over 500 days, and previously pulled a similar stunt in Oakland.
SOURCES:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/26/italian-woman-forced-to-court-to-evict-her-two-sons-aged-40-and-42
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12597887/Airbnb-guest-Elizabeth-Hirschhorn-kicked-Oakland-rental-two-months-moving-Sascha-Jovanovics-Brentwood-mansion-Harvard-grad-overstayed-540-days.html
https://www.fox9.com/news/airbnb-guest-stays-rental-500-days-without-paying-refuses-leave
https://fox59.com/news/national-world/airbnb-nightmare-tenant-leaves-los-angeles-home-after-nearly-600-days/
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12/11/2023 • 46 minutes, 25 seconds
Donda Academy Explained Ft. Kiki Monique
Sara and Danny are joined by Kiki Monique, host of fellow Betches podcast Pop Crime, to do a deep dive on the saga of Ye's K-12 school, Donda Academy. They cover it all, from bizarre rules about color palettes and staircases, to $10,000 sushi and racial discrimination lawsuits.
Kiki Monique: @thetalkofshame
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12/4/2023 • 51 minutes, 1 second
NATC Presents: Pop Crime’s “The Saga Of Kanye” (Ft. Sara and Danny)
Today, Sara and Danny have a special episode of one of their favorite podcasts to share with you: Pop Crime with host Kiki Monique. Kiki details the ongoing saga of Kanye West, as multiple lawsuits and allegations threaten to bring down his cultural empire. Sara and Danny join, to discuss whether this is the end for Yeezy.
Tune in to NATCP on Monday for a deeper dive on the Donda drama, featuring Kiki!
@thetalkofshame
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11/30/2023 • 56 minutes, 48 seconds
Murdaugh Murders Ft. Mandy Matney
Sara is joined by journalist Mandy Matney, host of The Murdaugh Murders Podcast, about the current state of journalism, her new book Blood on Their Hands: Murder, Corruption, and the Fall of the Murdaugh Dynasty, how systemic sexism fostered the environment that enabled Alex Murdaugh, and what it was like covering that unbelievable trial.
Guest: @mandy_matney
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11/27/2023 • 30 minutes, 18 seconds
Zach Avery and The Biggest Ponzi Scheme You’ve Never Heard of
Sara and Danny catch up on the latest RHOSLC drama before diving into this week's story: aspiring actor-turned-scammer Zachary J Horowitz aka Zach Avery. Avery was charged with wire fraud when he used his company, 1inMM Capital LLC, to collect $650 million in fraudulent regional distribution agreements for various streaming platforms.
SOURCES:
https://ew.com/celebrity/zach-avery-20-years-in-prison-ponzi-scheme/
https://people.com/crime/actor-zach-avery-arrested-for-running-allegedly-multi-million-hollywood-movie-ponzi-scheme/
https://www.vice.com/en/article/3aq8v8/the-wildest-parts-of-d-list-actor-zach-averys-alleged-ponzi-scheme
https://www.justice.gov/usao-cdca/pr/beverlywood-man-arrested-allegedly-bilking-investors-falsely-claiming-license-latin
https://www.sec.gov/files/litigation/complaints/2021/comp-pr2021-58.pdf
https://www.justice.gov/usao-cdca/pr/la-man-sentenced-20-years-federal-prison-650-million-ponzi-scheme-falsely-claimed
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11/20/2023 • 36 minutes, 50 seconds
The FTX Trial Explained Ft. Rex Chatterjee
Sara and Danny are joined by attorney Rex Chatterjee, who explains why the FTX case is actually simpler than you might think. He walks Danny and Sara through the basics of wire fraud, how this kind of trial works, Sam Bankman-Fried's strategy of placing the blame on his attorneys, and why venture capitalists keep bankrolling narcissists who "move fast and break shit."
Note: This episode was recorded before the verdict was announced.
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11/13/2023 • 50 minutes, 58 seconds
Scams From The Headlines: Defrauding The Lottery, Fake Remote Employment, & Nefarious AI
Danny's flying solo this week with another roundup of recent newsworthy scams. First up, a Massachusetts family defrauds the lottery out of $20 million. Then, an Australian woman is the latest victim of an employment scam, losing her life savings. And finally, striking actors are being recruited for AI research that may end up replacing them in the future.
SOURCES:
https://nypost.com/2023/10/25/news/how-a-massachusetts-family-scammed-the-lottery-out-of-20-million/
https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/at-work/aussie-mum-loses-her-life-savings-to-a-cruel-employment-scam/news-story/13a9a41820d16246d020b51a0b5dad96
https://www.technologyreview.com/2023/10/19/1081974/meta-realeyes-artificial-intelligence-hollywood-actors-strike/
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11/6/2023 • 38 minutes, 36 seconds
James Hogue: Runner, Thief, and Teenage Impersonator
This week, Sara and Danny cover James Hogue, a champion runner-turned con man, who stole everything from trophies, to bikes, to gemstones - all while posing as a teenage student, despite the fact that he was pushing 30.
SOURCES:
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2001/09/03/the-runner
https://paw.princeton.edu/article/strange-case-james-arthur-hogue#:~:text=As%20it%20turned%20out%2C%20Alexi,for%20possession%20of%20stolen%20property.
https://areomagazine.com/2022/04/08/the-curious-case-of-a-scholar-who-didnt-exist/
https://www.aspentimes.com/news/famed-con-man-who-lived-in-ajax-shack-arrested-again-in-aspen/
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10/30/2023 • 40 minutes, 52 seconds
The Many Cons Of Barry Minkow, Part 2
In Part 2 of Sara and Danny's deep dive on Barry Minkow, Barry is released from prison and rebrands himself as a pastor, starts a for-profit investigative firm dedicated to uncovering business frauds., and his church parishioners raise funds for a film about his life. But Barry's compulsion for scamming was far from over, and he had to face the legal system once again.
SOURCES:
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1988-01-19-me-37107-story.html
https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/field-offices/sandiego/news/press-releases/notorious-conman-turned-pastor-barry-minkow-sentenced-to-five-years-in-prison-for-bilking-congregation-of-more-than-3-million
https://www.dailynews.com/2022/01/11/barry-minkow-got-famous-cheating-the-system-now-hes-back-with-king-of-the-con/
https://moneyweek.com/503094/great-frauds-in-history-zzzz-best
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1988-12-15-mn-362-story.html
https://www.nytimes.com/1988/01/18/business/company-news-zzzz-best-indictment.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20110705125654/http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/jul/03/jailhouse-convert/
https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/barry-minkow-has-to-pay-lennar-corp-583-million-and-serve-five-years-6539824
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/business/real-estate/sdut-minkow-attacking-lennar-2011jul06-htmlstory.html
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10/23/2023 • 26 minutes, 28 seconds
The Many Cons Of Barry Minkow, Part 1
Sara and Danny are back with a deep dive on Barry Minkow, a man with a relentless entrepreneurial spirit for cons and scams. In Part 1, they cover his early start as a child telemarketer, and how his adolescent carpet cleaning business ZZZZ Best led him to credit card fraud, stock fraud, getting in bed with the mob, and prison. Come back next week for Part 2, where Barry becomes a born-again Christian.
SOURCES:
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1988-01-19-me-37107-story.html
https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/field-offices/sandiego/news/press-releases/notorious-conman-turned-pastor-barry-minkow-sentenced-to-five-years-in-prison-for-bilking-congregation-of-more-than-3-million
https://www.dailynews.com/2022/01/11/barry-minkow-got-famous-cheating-the-system-now-hes-back-with-king-of-the-con/
https://moneyweek.com/503094/great-frauds-in-history-zzzz-best
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1988-12-15-mn-362-story.html
https://www.nytimes.com/1988/01/18/business/company-news-zzzz-best-indictment.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20110705125654/http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/jul/03/jailhouse-convert/
https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/barry-minkow-has-to-pay-lennar-corp-583-million-and-serve-five-years-6539824
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/business/real-estate/sdut-minkow-attacking-lennar-2011jul06-htmlstory.html
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10/16/2023 • 32 minutes, 58 seconds
Crypto King Pins Ft. Tom Wright
Sara and Danny are joined by journalist, NYT bestselling author, and Pulitzer finalist Tom Wright, to talk about his podcast Crypto Kingpins. The podcast covers the rivalry between two titans in the crypto industry: Sam Bankman-Fried of FTX and Changpeng Zhao of Binance. Tom tells Sara and Danny how Bankman-Fried presented himself as the good boy of crypto, how his rivalry with CZ began, and where things stand with crypto now. With Bankman-Fried currently on trial for fraud, and billions of dollars on the line, there's still more to come with this story.
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10/9/2023 • 41 minutes, 38 seconds
BS High Ft. Travon Free & Martin Desmond Roe
Sara and Danny are joined by Travon Free and Martin Desmond Roe to talk about their new HBO documentary BS High, which covers the story of a high school football scandal that made headlines 2021. The Bishop Sycamore Centurions - a football team for a high school that doesn't exist - had the internet in a frenzy when they suffered a humiliating loss to IMG Academy that was televised on ESPN. Travon and Martin share how they became aware of and involved with this story, what it was like interviewing self-proclaimed liar Roy Johnson, who orchestrated the scam, and where some of the main characters of the documentary are today.
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10/2/2023 • 34 minutes, 50 seconds
Updates on Ashton Kutcher & Mila Kunis, Iggy Azalea, And Russell Brand
This week, Sara and Danny recap some recent celebrity news. First up is Ashton Kutcher and Mila Kunis, who were in hot water after their letters to the judge in Danny Masterson's rape case were made public. Ashton subsequently resigned as Chairman of the Board at Thorn, the sex trafficking organization he founded with Demi Moore in 2009. Iggy Azalea also faced criticism last month, when the public became aware of *her* letter of support for Tony Lanez regarding the Megan Thee Stallion shooting. And finally, Russell Brand has been accused by multiple women of rape and sexual misconduct, and put out a YouTube video in response to the allegations.
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9/25/2023 • 31 minutes, 9 seconds
Telemarketers Ft. Sam Lipman-Stern
Sara and Danny are joined by documentary filmmaker Sam Lipman-Stern, to talk about his 3 part HBO docuseries Telemarketers. This two-decades-long project began back when Sam first started working at the Civil Development Group, where he started recording the bizarre goings-on at the office simply because it was entertaining, all the while unwittingly participating in a massive scam. Sam fills Sara and Danny in on how everything unfolded, the journey to getting the project funded and made, and what he's working on now.
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9/18/2023 • 36 minutes, 33 seconds
Festival Fiascos: Burning Man, Electric Zoo, & Fyre Fest II
Sara and Danny bid a sweaty farewell to summer with a roundup of some recent festival fiascos and one coming down the pipeline. First up is Burning Man, the week-long festival in the Nevada desert, where each year participants erect (and fully dismantle) Black Rock City. This year, an unexpected rainfall of extreme proportions created a disastrous level of mud, and 70,000 people were subsequently trapped there and forced to shelter in place. Next, NYC's Electric Zoo festival became a massive organizational nightmare, leaving thousands of ticket holders stuck in never ending lines. And finally, Billy McFarland is trying his hand at Fyre Fest once more, with tickets already selling out for the December 6, 2024 event at an as-of-yet undisclosed Caribbean destination.
SOURCES:
https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/04/us/burning-man-storms-shelter-monday/index.html
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/electric-zoo-attendees-frustrated-chaos-disorganized-three-day-festiva-rcna103258
https://www.insider.com/fyre-festival-2-tickets-lineup-location-billy-mcfarland-2023-8
https://www.curbed.com/2023/08/whats-going-on-at-the-brooklyn-mirage.html
https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/mayor-eric-adams-says-city-will-take-action-against-electric-zoo-festival-organizers/
https://www.billboard.com/pro/electric-zoo-festival-canceled-friday-didnt-have-permits/
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9/11/2023 • 48 minutes, 54 seconds
The Retrievals Ft. Susan Burton
Sara and Danny are joined by writer and reporter Susan Burton, to talk all about her podcast The Retrievals, a 5 part narrative series from The New York Times and Serial. The Retrievals details the story of dozens of women who underwent IVF treatment at the Yale Fertility Center, and the nightmare of excruciating pain that ensued. Susan shares her experience producing the podcast and how her own experience with eating disorder recovery informed her interest in stories about women's bodies.
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-retrievals/id1691599042
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9/4/2023 • 32 minutes, 3 seconds
‘Stranger Things’ Have Happened: Inside The Wild Catfish Saga, Covid Relief Fraud In Miami, And Ghislane's Religious Pivot
This week, Sara and Danny cover the bizarre catfishing case where a romance scammer posed as Stranger Things actor Darce Montgomery to get thousands of dollars in gift cards. Then, a Miami realtor is serving time for misuse of Covid relief funds. And finally, Ghislane Maxwell has suddenly decided to connect with her late father's Jewish faith, presumably to get better food and time off on the Sabbath.
RESOURCES:
https://nypost.com/2023/08/16/kentucky-woman-mckayla-catfished-out-of-10k-by-scammer-posing-as-stranger-things-dacre-montgomery/
https://people.com/real-estate-broker-who-misused-covid-relief-funds-jailed-for-3-5-years-7724766
https://www.the-sun.com/news/8775674/ghislaine-maxwell-prison-benefits-embracing-jewish-religion/
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8/28/2023 • 39 minutes, 27 seconds
Inside "The Blind Side" Legal Drama Between Michael Oher, Tuohy Family
This week, Danny covers the ongoing legal drama between Michael Oher, and the Tuohy family, best known for their portrayal in the 2009 film The Blind Side (based on a book of the same name). Michael is suing the Tuohys, alleging that they lied about adopting him, and in fact placed him under a conservatorship instead, which cheated him out of millions of dollars while they continue to profit off of him. Danny gets into the lawsuit, the Tuohy family's lavish life, and where this is all heading.
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8/21/2023 • 42 minutes, 35 seconds
SCAMPLING: Scams You Should Be Aware Of
Sara and Danny are back with a rundown of some current scams that we all need to be on alert for. First up, people posing as Bank Of America fraud department employees are tricking customers into transferring them money via Zelle. Next is a Florida woman who conned an 87-year-old Holocaust survivor out of $2.8 million. Then, a fake romance crypto scam that began over Hinge and ending with something horrifically called "pig butchering." Finally, what happens when you hire someone to solve your scam... only for the investigator to be a scammer themself? And to wrap up the show, an update on Sarma Melngailis aka The Bad Vegan.
RESOURCES:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jul/28/florida-woman-romance-scam-jailed
https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/florida-woman-pleads-guilty-defrauding-holocaust-survivor-28-million-connection-romance
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/tech-executive-falls-victim-450k-190411822.html
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/private-investigator-preyed-dating-scam-113900495.html
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8/14/2023 • 39 minutes, 1 second
Exploring Elder Scams
This week, Sara and Danny cover Leah Remini's new harassment and defamation lawsuit against the Church of Scientology. Then, they get into some international elder scams: First, a 73-year-old New York grandmother named Jean, who outsmarted a scammer posing as her grandson. Then, police in Thailand take down an international operation that cheated the elderly out of $87 million. And finally, Japan's projected plan to put an end to elder scams once and for all... by taking away their bank cards.
RESOURCES:
https://variety.com/2023/film/news/leah-remini-sues-church-of-scientology-1235686180/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/01/24/elder-scam-grandma-long-island/
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/thai-police-bust-call-scammers-swindled-older-americans-rcna76271
https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/people/article/3229623/japan-plans-combat-phone-scams-taking-elderlys-bank-cards-away-people-are-going-panic
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8/7/2023 • 40 minutes, 7 seconds
The Shien RICO Case And Elon's Potential Trademark Showdown Ft. Intellectual Property Lawyer Joshua Greenberg
Sara and Danny are joined by intellectual property entertainment lawyer Joshua Greenberg, who explains the Shien lawsuit and what actually constitutes copyright infringement. They also discuss the potential problems that may arise with Elon's X-branded Twitter pivot.
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7/31/2023 • 37 minutes, 14 seconds
Ferdinand Ward: the Best-Hated Man in the United States
Sara & Danny are back with a conman from New York history, Ferdinand Ward, who earned himself a reputation worthy of the nickname "Young Napoleon of Finance" - and eventually, the "Best-Hated Man" in the country. Sara and Danny dive into his early scams and how he leveled up into a bank-collapsing Ponzi scheme that landed him in Sing Sing - but that still wasn't the end of his misdeeds.
RESOURCES:
https://moneyweek.com/economy/people/601293/great-frauds-in-history-the-downfall-of-ferdinand-ward-the-napoleon-of
https://archives.nypl.org/mss/22284
A Disposition to Be Rich: Ferdinand Ward, the Greatest Swindler of the Gilded Age by Geoffrey Ward
“Read all about Geneseo’s dirty rotten scoundrel” - Livingston County News
https://www.brooklynpaper.com/family-guile-historian-discusses-his-criminal-ancestor/
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7/24/2023 • 33 minutes, 4 seconds
Cassie Chadwick: A Scammer Of Many Names
This week, Sara and Danny cover Cassie Chadwick, aka Betty Bigley, aka Madam Marie Rosa, aka Madame Lydia Devere - a scammer with an unbelievable track record of defrauding banks and millionaires. They get into her many crimes and identities and the immense amount of money she got away with swindling, all the way to her ultimate demise.
RESOURCES:
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-high-priestess-of-fraudulent-finance-45/
Crime in Cleveland Cassie Chadwick: The Con Artist of Millionaires’ Row
CLEVELAND: THE BEST KEPT SECRET by George E. Condon
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7/17/2023 • 42 minutes, 40 seconds
The Villisca Ax Murders
Sara and Danny cover a still-unsolved mass murder from 1912, where a family of six and two guests were bludgeoned to death in their Villisca, Iowa home. They get into the events leading up to the murders, the investigation, and the three major suspects - one of whom may have been a serial killer.
RESOURCES:
https://www.villiscaiowa.com/
https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/2022/06/09/1912-villisca-ax-murders-what-to-know-iowa-cold-case/7567590001/
https://iowacoldcases.org/case-summaries/villisca-axe-murders/
http://iagenweb.org/boards/montgomery/documents/index.cgi?read=114416
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-ax-murderer-who-got-away-117037374/
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7/10/2023 • 37 minutes, 34 seconds
Consulting An Expert Ft. Criminal Defense Attorney Jason Goldman
Sara and Danny are joined by criminal defense attorney Jason Goldman, who shares his unique insight and perspective on the justice system, as well as some past and present high profile cases, including the Idaho murders, Natalie Holloway, Scott Peterson, and Adnan Syed. Jason explains why the alibi defense is his least favorite, what the biggest misconceptions people get from crime TV shows are, and the story behind how he chose to go into this area of law.
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7/3/2023 • 42 minutes, 5 seconds
C.L. Blood & The Laughing Gas Scam
This week, Sara and Danny are going back to the 1800s to cover C.L. Blood, a con man who posed as a doctor, and claimed that oxygenized air (aka nitrous oxide) could cure a whole slew of medical ailments. They get into all of Blood's shady associates, his trouble with the law, and how it all led to a botched blackmailing and a gruesome murder.
RESOURCES:
“A Wily Doctor: The Career of Charles L. Blood, Once of Boston” - The Boston Weekly Guide
“A Man of Ominous Name”: The Inter Ocean
“The Crime of Cain” San Francisco Call
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6/26/2023 • 39 minutes, 35 seconds
Scamanda Ft. Charlie Webster
Sara and Danny are joined by broadcast journalist and producer Charlie Webster, to talk all about her true crime podcast Scamanda. The 8 episode series details the story of Amanda Riley, who made headlines in 2022 for faking her cancer diagnosis and swindling donors out of more than $100k. Charlie shares how she got involved with this story, some of the wildest things that have come up in her investigation, and how Amanda managed to convince so many people of her lie. To close out the episode, they check in on the latest Anna Delvey update.
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6/19/2023 • 46 minutes, 9 seconds
Natalia Grace Docuseries Recap
This week, Sara and Danny give their recap and thoughts on the new Max docuseries The Curious Case Of Natalia Grace, which takes a closer look at a bizarre story that NATCP covered back in 2019. They get into the Barnett family and the strange events that unfolded starting from Natalia's adoption, to the suspicions about her age, police involvement, Natalia's birth family in Ukraine, and the child abandonment trial. The six available episodes show the Barnett's POV, with Natalia's side of the story dropping later this summer, so watch this space for NATCP's coverage!
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6/12/2023 • 48 minutes, 8 seconds
Armie Hammer, Anna Delvey Updates, & More Ft. Daisy Maskell
Danny and Sara are joined by UK radio host, podcaster, and true crime aficionado Daisy Maskell! They get into Daisy's documentary Cheat Detectives which investigates the TikTok "loyalty test" trend, find out her latest true crime obsessions, and share their favorite cases from across the pond that don't get the same level of attention in their home countries. Then, some current events updates, including Armie Hammer's charges being dropped, 73 year old Manson girl Leslie Van Houten's appeal, and Anna Delvey's new podcast!
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6/5/2023 • 38 minutes, 6 seconds
Donald Stellwag aka Big Mäck
Sara and Danny are back this week with a rundown of the Netflix documentary Big Mäck: Gangsters and Gold, which tells the story of Donald Stellwag - a man who was wrongfully imprisoned for a robbery he did not commit, based on little more than a misidentified ear. After nine years, he finally went free... but the story doesn't end there. They get into his post-prison life as a local celeb and low key influencer, and another robbery that he may actually have been involved in and gotten away with.
RESOURCES:
https://dmtalkies.com/big-mack-gangsters-and-gold-explained-2023-documentary-donald-stellwag/
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5/29/2023 • 46 minutes, 58 seconds
Katie Sorensen: The Attempted Kidnapping That Wasn't
This week, Sara and Danny cover a recent news story about Katie Sorensen - an "aspiring" Bay Area momfluencer who falsely accused a couple of attempting to kidnap her children in a Michaels store. They get into her QAnon past, her racist profiling of the innocent couple, and the way her lies were unwoven in court. To wrap up the show, Sara and Danny play a round of Can You Buy This Thing At Michaels?
RESOURCES:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/mom-influencer-convicted-lying-kids-103428492.html
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/04/29/instagram-katie-sorensen-convicted-false-crime-reporting/11766191002/
https://da.sonomacounty.ca.gov/woman-convicted-of-knowingly-making-a-false-report-of-attempted-kidnap
https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23792239/sorensen-peoples-motion-in-opposition.pdf
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5/22/2023 • 45 minutes, 8 seconds
Utah "Grief Author" Kouri Richins, George Santos AKA SCAMtos, And More Headlines
Sara and Danny are back with some stories from recent headlines. First up is Utah mother and wife Kouri Richins, who wrote a children's book about grief after her husband died... only to then be revealed as her husband's killer. Next, from Sara's own home town, it's the House of Representative's most absurd scammer, George Santos. And finally, checking in yet again on Elizabeth "Liz" Holmes.
RESOURCES:
https://abcnews.go.com/US/woman-wrote-book-grief-husbands-death-accused-murder/story?id=99199204
https://www.amazon.com/Are-you-me-Kouri-Richins/dp/B0BYBNCZ2K
https://www.justice.gov/usao-edny/pr/congressman-george-santos-charged-fraud-money-laundering-theft-public-funds-and-false
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/05/the-everything-guide-to-george-santoss-lies.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/07/business/elizabeth-holmes-theranos-interview.html
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5/15/2023 • 50 minutes, 50 seconds
Brittany Dawn: Fitfluencer Turned Scammer
This week, Sara and Danny delve into the world of fitness and Christianity influencers, with scammer and self-proclaimed "eating disorder solider" Brittany Dawn. They break down how her shady business swindled vulnerable customers and landed her in legal trouble with the state of Texas. To wrap up the show, Sara and Danny play a round of Guess The Apology, where they figure out which quotes belong to which shamed YouTuber apology videos.
And an update to the story: Brittany's trial was scheduled for mid-May, but since the time of recording, she has reached a settlement for an undisclosed amount. There will be an additional hearing to finalize the settlement, at an as of yet undisclosed date.
RESOURCES:
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/kelseyweekman/brittany-dawn-davis-influencer-lawsuit-fitness
https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/ag-ken-paxton-files-lawsuit-against-dfw-influencer-brittany-dawn/2882241/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diWTplfRYE4
https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Wellness/video/fitness-influencer-apologizes-flood-customers-call-programs-scam-61042772
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/courts/2023/05/03/texas-fitness-influencer-brittany-dawn-reaches-settlement-with-state/
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5/8/2023 • 53 minutes, 33 seconds
HEADLINE ROUND-UP: Elizabeth Holmes, Lori Vallow, Nicholas Alahverdian, & Julia Wendell
Sara and Danny are back with a round-up of some current and ongoing stories from the past week's headlines. First up is the ever-present Elizabeth Holmes, who is once again doing whatever it takes to avoid serving her sentence. Next, there are some harrowing updates from the Lori Vallow trial. Then, a viral video reveals that a wanted serial sex offender who faked his own death in the US, has been found in Scotland using a fake name, accent, and potentially several medical ailments. And finally, a woman claiming the identity of missing child Madeline McCann, was exposed (with the help of a psychic PI) as a Polish woman named Julia Wendell.
RESOURCES:
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/elizabeth-holmes-delays-going-prison-165222939.html
https://www.thedailybeast.com/lori-vallow-trial-pathologist-reveals-how-son-jj-vallow-died
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/american-fugitive-nicholas-alahverdian-claims-irish-orphan/
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11986433/Polish-Madeleine-McCann-faker-Julia-Wendell-reported-police-explicit-images-children.html
https://nypost.com/2023/04/18/cell-phone-seized-related-to-woman-claiming-to-be-madeleine-mccann-police/
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5/1/2023 • 30 minutes, 47 seconds
Murder of a Millionaire: The Death of Serge Rubinstein
This week, Sara and Danny kick off the show with some updates on Billy McFarland and Elizabeth Holmes. Then, they dive into the unsolved murder of Serge Rubenstein - draft dodging, café society denizen who made his millions through currency manipulation and stock fraud, and was so unlikable that even the Rabbi read him for filth at his own funeral.
RESOURCES:
https://eastsidefeed.com/odds-and-ends/death-of-a-scoundrel-and-the-unsolved-murder-of-serge-rubenstein/
https://www.nydailynews.com/true-crime-justice-story/ny-true-crime-justice-story-serge-rubinstein-20200726-wxzwqblxzzactn62jhwtshe7xa-story.html
New York Times divorce announcements, 1949
Rubinstein Case Yielding No Clue - NYT
“Fingerprints Studied — Was Rubinstein Murder Mob Killing?” The Florence Times
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4/24/2023 • 40 minutes, 16 seconds
Hello, It’s Her: Adele Spitzeder (The First Reported Ponzi scheme)
This week, Sara and Danny catch up on the Trump indictment and Jen Shah's prison book list, before discussing the actual OG Ponzi schemer, Adele Spitzeder. An actress, womanizer, dog mom, philanthropist, nepo baby... literally what can't this b*tch do (other than successfully run a bank without ending up in prison)? To wrap up the show, they dream cast their own made-for-tv movie about Adele: We Could Have Had It All.
RESOURCES:
https://www.aier.org/article/adele-spitzeder-the-queen-of-confidence-tricksters/
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4/17/2023 • 1 hour, 5 minutes, 22 seconds
The Heiress Kidnapping Of Alice Parsons That Was (Or Maybe Wasn't)
This week, Sara and Danny examine the unsolved case of Long Island's very own missing heiress, Alice Parsons. They discuss her unhappy marriage to an oil heir-turned squab farmer (turned squab paste manufacturer), and how his affair with a mysterious Russian housekeeper may very well have lead to Alice's disappearance and probable death. Fake ransom notes, messy evidence, and fights over fortunes abound! To wrap up the show, they play a round of "Edible Dish or Death Wish?", where they try to suss out unusual foods from fatal concoctions.
RESOURCES:
https://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/ny-alice-parsons-kidnapping-book-20200905-gvj53zysbrdxdne4kiz72vwcai-story.html
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/175717087/alice-parsons
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4/10/2023 • 52 minutes, 50 seconds
The Not So True Story Of Frank William Abignale Jr.
Sara and Danny dive into one of the most notorious con men in history: Frank William Abignale. Popularized by Catch Me If You Can, he has been immortailzed as the ultimate jet-setting conman, but as it turns out, we might've all been conned by the man himself. To end the show, they play a round of "Con Me If You Can!" where they try to fool each other into believing some lie's about themselves.
Resources:
The Greatest Hoax on Earth: Catching Truth, While We Can by Alan C. Logan
https://www.biography.com/crime/frank-abagnale
https://nypost.com/2023/03/13/catch-me-if-you-can-conman-frank-abagnale-lied-about-his-lies/
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4/3/2023 • 1 hour, 8 minutes, 43 seconds
“Ruthless Ruth” & The Murder Of Albert Snyder
This week, Sara and Danny kick off the episode with a brief update on the Madeleine McCann story, for which we might be beginning to get some answers for. Then, they dig into the episode, taking us all the way back to the 1920s to talk about Ruth Snyder. They kick it off with some background facts about Ruth and her husband Albert, and the affair she led with a salesman that was the beginning of the chain of events that would lead to the murder of her husband. They also talk all about the sensational trial that followed it, and the outcome of Ruthless Ruth and her accomplice.
RESOURCES:
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/how-a-new-york-tabloid-captured-the-first-photograph-of-an-execution-by-the-electric-chair-180981432/
https://www.americanheritage.com/she-had-die
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/ruthless-ruth-article-1.344029
The Bloody Blonde and the Marble Woman: Gender and Power in the Case of Ruth Snyder by Jessie Ramey
https://www.history.com/news/double-indemnity-1920s-murder-crime-tabloids
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3/27/2023 • 48 minutes, 30 seconds
Did They Solve The Somerton Man?
Sara and Danny take a look at one of the most well-known mysteries from Australia, the death of the Somerton Man. They dive into the unexplained circumstances under which the body of the unidentified man was found, and the few clues that investigators were able to find. They also get into the cryptic piece of paper found in his pocket, which only said "Tamam Shud." Then they discuss the various theories that have been circulated throughout the years about the identity of the man and the cause of his death, and why investigators believe that they finally might be getting some concrete answers to their questions. To end the show, they play a game called "A Milllion Ways To Die On A Beach," where they try to deduce which are the deadliest dangers on a beach.
RESOURCES:
https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/26/australia/australia-somerton-man-mystery-solved-claim-intl-hnk-dst/index.html
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/have-scholars-finally-identified-the-mysterious-somerton-man-180980540/
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-body-on-somerton-beach-50795611/
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/jul/27/somerton-man-mystery-identity-solved-identified-australia
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/danvergano/who-is-the-somerton-man
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3/20/2023 • 1 hour, 32 seconds
The Ozy Media Scandal
This week, Sara and Danny kick off the episode with a quick update on the Murdaugh trial(updates are moving quick, make sure to follow @notanothertruecrime to stay up to date,) before diving into the main story of the week: the Ozy Media Scandal. They give an overview of the media outlet and the general gist of their operations before diving right into the details of the scanda, which included fake interviews, fasified metrics, and fabricated stories. They also zero in on the main person implicated in all of this: CEO Carlos Watson who was at the heart of all their shady dealings. They round it all out with the precitipous fall of the organization and the consequences of the widespread fraud.
RESOURCES:
https://www.justice.gov/usao-edny/pr/ozy-media-and-its-founder-carlos-watson-indicted-years-long-multi-million-dollar-fraud
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/26/business/media/ozy-media-goldman-sachs.html
https://www.marketingbrew.com/stories/2023/02/14/ozy-is-looking-for-advertisers-to-sponsor-ozy-fest-a-two-day-event-in-miami
https://www.semafor.com/article/02/08/2023/media-company-ozy-is-attempting-a-comeback
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3/13/2023 • 55 minutes, 15 seconds
The Death Of William Desmond Taylor Ft. Aly Michalka of Aly & AJ
This week, Sara and Danny are joined by Aly Michalka from Aly & AJ to spend a bit of time talking about true crime! They kick things off discussing the recent release from prison of Charles Sobhraj (popularized by the Netflix series "The Serpent"), and the questionable reason behind the decision. Then, they dig into the main topic of the episode, the unsolved murder of Hollywood director William Desmond Taylor in 1922. They start off with some background info on Desmond Taylor and his immigration to the US, and how he began his career in Hollywood after a winding path through Northern America. Then, they cover the circumstances of his murder, and the long list of suspects that have been investigated throughout the years. Make sure to check out Aly & AJ's newest album "With Love From" when it comes out March 15th!
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3/6/2023 • 1 hour, 3 minutes, 19 seconds
The Charlatan Of The Ozarks
Sara and Danny cover the story of Norman Baker, the magician who later claimed to have the cure for cancer. They start off by exploring his background as a vaudeville performer, inventor, and tramp machinist (yes, that’s a real profession). They talk about his time as the original Joe Rogan hosting his own radio broadcasting show called KTNT “Know The Naked Truth” - if only he was born 98 years later. Finally they chat about how he secured fame as well as state and federal prison terms by promoting a supposed cure for cancer.
RESOURCES:
https://www.newyorker.com/culture/photo-booth/the-haunting-history-of-a-hucksters-cancer-cure
https://encyclopediaofarkansas.net/entries/norman-baker-4885/
https://www.nwaonline.com/news/2019/apr/12/glass-bottles-date-to-38-cancer-elixir-/
http://iagenweb.org/muscatine/obituaries/ba-obit.htm
https://go.gale.com/ps/i.do?p=AONE&u=googlescholar&id=GALE|A78177225&v=2.1&it=r&sid=AONE&asid=93dab8fd
https://www.thedailybeast.com/madeline-mccann-parents-ok-dna-test-on-julia-wandelt
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/charlatan-ozarks-still-looms-over-haunted-crescent-hotel-180973743/
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2/27/2023 • 43 minutes, 15 seconds
The Locked Room Murder
Sara and Danny cover the story of Joe Elwell, a tale of murder, mystery and… bridge! They talk all about the life of the conniving con artist in the early 1900s, whose shady dealings ultimately led to his demise. They dig into the circumstances of his murder, which remains unsolved to this day and has been named the Locked Room Murder. To end the show, they put their lateral thinking skills to the test, as they are presented with a series of puzzles they need to solve in honor of Joe’s ‘impossible’ murder.
RESOURCES:
https://www.frontpagedetectives.com/p/the-impossible-locked-room-killing-of-joseph-elwell
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2/20/2023 • 1 hour, 1 minute, 6 seconds
The Man Who "Sold" The Eiffel Tower
Sara and Danny are back to talk all about infamous scammer extraordinaire Victor Lustig, the Austro-Hungarian who once sold the Eiffel Tower. They cover his laundry list of scams he ran throughout his life in the early 1900’s, and the numerous victims he left behind in his wake. They also get into the events that left to his eventual downfall, and how his romp through he United States came to an end. To end the show, they play a game testing their skills at sussing out a fake sale, guessing whether certain bizarre items were actually sold on eBay or not.
RESOURCES:
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/man-who-sold-eiffel-tower-twice-180958370/
https://www.myjournalcourier.com/news/article/Holy-cow-History-The-man-who-sold-the-Eiffel-17367737.php
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-smoothest-con-man-that-ever-lived-29861908/
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2/13/2023 • 1 hour, 8 minutes, 23 seconds
The Nolan Sisters
Sara and Danny cover the Nolan sisters this week, and the famous Waterford poisoning case that they were invovled in. They start with the story of ther immigration to the United Statates, and along with some interesting facts about their background before diving into the case and everything that happened. They cover the mysterious deaths of mutiplle people around them throughout the years, and the eventua trial that followed the discovery of multiple types of posion in their possesion. To end the show, they test their knowledge of famous siblings throughout history. A huge thanks to Russ Vandervoort for his help on this case!
RESOURCES:
Russ Vandervoort, Waterford town historian
https://www.newyorkalmanack.com/2022/07/the-nolan-sisters-a-famous-waterford-poisoning-case/
https://saratogatodaynewspaper.com/history/item/16967-the-trial-of-catherine-and-elizabeth-nolan-part-ii
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2/6/2023 • 1 hour, 3 minutes, 57 seconds
The Disappearance Of The Beaumont Children
Sara and Danny dive in to the disappearance of the Beaumont Children, one of the most infamous cold cases from Australia. They start off with an overview of the Beaumont family from Adelaide, South Australia and quickly get into the circumstances of their disappearance. They also discuss the exhaustive investigation that followed it, and the string of suspects that have been suggested over the years. To end the episode, they play a game of "Six Feet Down Under" to see who will get the advantage in this year's True Crime Trivia Championship!
RESOURCES:
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/105884832
https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1300&dat=19660203&id=OYtVAAAAIBAJ&pg=1650,513622
https://www.eonline.com/news/1326603/why-the-unsolved-disappearance-of-the-beaumont-children-remains-one-of-australias-most-haunting-crimes
https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/who-took-the-beaumont-children-new-lead-in-iconic-australia-day-abduction/news-story/9421e7f6bf6c96a81ec6e262d65c4137
https://www.theage.com.au/national/suspected-mass-child-killer-is-buried-with-his-secrets-at-90-20020722-gduf0t.html
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1/30/2023 • 1 hour, 1 minute, 24 seconds
BREAKING UPDATES: Anna Delvey, Elizabeth Holmes, Alec Baldwin, & Brian Walshe
Sara and Danny are here with a special bonus episode on some updates in the world of true crime! They cover Anna Delvey's upcoming Dinner Party series, Elizabeth Holmes' apparent attempt to flee the country, Alec Baldwin charges, and new information on Brian Walshe's search history. Be sure to follow @notanothertruecrime to stay up to date on all the updates as they develop!
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1/26/2023 • 26 minutes, 10 seconds
The Hatchet Wielding Hitchhiker
Sara and Dany are back to cover the story of Kai, the hatchet wielding hitchiker who went viral all the way back in 2013. They talk all about the circumstances of how Kai became involved in the murder of Jett Simmons McBride, who had picked up Kai as he was hitchhiking in Fresno, California. They also get into the media sensation that followed the events, and how Kai became incredibly famous from the ordeal. After that, they discuss Kai's arrest the year after for the murder of Joseph Galfy, and the trial that followed it. To end the show, they take a trip to the world of viral videos, and try to guess the 10 most viewed YouTube videos of all time.
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1/23/2023 • 1 hour, 17 minutes, 29 seconds
Scammers Round-Up: Jen Shah, GoFundMe Scam Lady, & Fake Dr. Malachi Love-Robinson
Sara and Danny are back with a round-up of various updates to the stories of several scammers in the news recently. They kick things of with Jen Shah of Housewives fame, who was recently sentenced to prison for her involvement of various scams throughout the years. Then, they turn to a couple who went viral on with a heart felt story and managed to raise hundreds of thousands of dollars on GoFundMe, which all ended up being one big scam. They also cover the story of Malachi Love-Robinson, a fake doctor from Florida who practiced medicine as a teen with no license, who could've seen that one coming?
RESOURCES:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/doctor-deception-how-florida-teen-allegedly-faked-being-m-d-n531726
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/crime-courts/fake-teen-doctor-now-25-sentenced-prison-new-scam-rcna64064
https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/pop-culture-news/live-blog/jen-shah-sentencing-live-updates-rcna64573
https://pagesix.com/2023/01/06/jen-shah-celebrates-sentencing-with-lavish-dinner-party-for-20/
https://people.com/crime/jen-shah-requests-serve-prison-sentence-elizabeth-holmes-facility/
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/leticiamiranda/teen-who-allegedly-posed-as-a-medical-doctor-says-he-never-c#.ekoB7ng7RG
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/woman-gets-3-years-good-samaritan-gofundme-scam-raised-400k-rcna64774
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1/16/2023 • 1 hour, 13 minutes, 20 seconds
The Lizzie Borden Murders
This week, Sara and Danny take us all the way back to the 90's, the 1890's. They breakdown the story of the infamous protagonist of a nursery rhyme Lizzie Borden, who took an axe and gave her mother forty whacks. They talk all about Borden's life before the events and what led her to commit the murderous acts, and the fallout of the entire ordeal.
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1/9/2023 • 58 minutes, 28 seconds
The Fake Rockefeller Pt. 2
Sara and Danny are back with the thrilling conclusion of the Fake Rockefeller story. To end the show, they go through their predictions of the year past and find out who is the winner of the NATCP Trivia Championship of 2022!
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1/2/2023 • 1 hour, 6 minutes, 42 seconds
The Fake Rockefeller Pt. 1
Happy Holidays! Sara are Danny are back with Part 1 of the incredible story of Christian Karl Gerhartsreiter AKA The Fake Rockefeller. In this first episode, they take us through the beginnings of Christian's life in West Germany, and his introduction to university life in the USA. They also talk about a few people he met early in his life and how he gained their trust, foreshadowing his later life of lies and deceit. Be sure to tune in next week for the conclusion of the story!
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RESOURCES:
https://www.npr.org/2011/07/10/137624164/30-year-con-from-german-kid-to-rockefeller-scion
https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2009/01/fake_rockefeller200901
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12/26/2022 • 46 minutes, 22 seconds
The Santa Claus Bank Robbery
This week, Sara and Danny take us all the way back to 1920’s Texas for a Christmas themed heist gone wrong. They takes us through all the details of the attempted robbery of the First National Bank in Cisco, and the deranged mad plan the robbers came up with to carry out the heist. They also talk about the manhunt that followed the robbery, which spanned days and took a more than a few left turns. To end the show, they play “Twist In The Case, Or Pulling My Leg?” where they have to say whether various twists in true crime cases are true or false.
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12/19/2022 • 54 minutes, 33 seconds
We Watched The Casey Anthony Doc So You Don’t Have To
This week, Sara and Danny did us all a favor by watching “Casey Anthony: Where the Truth Lies” so we don’t have to. They kick off with some background on the disappearance of Casey’s daughter Caylee, and the details of the events. Then they breakdown the new version of the events Casey outlines in the doc, which are confusing and at times contradictory. They go through her claims and try to make sense of her new “revelations” and give us their thoughts on what’s going on here. They end by giving us their thoughts on the documentary as a whole, which *spoiler alert* are not too positive.
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12/12/2022 • 51 minutes, 42 seconds
The "Death" Of John Darwin
Sara and Danny bring us the story of John Darwin, a British teacher and prison officer who has believed to have died in a canoeing accident. They kick off with some background on him and his family before the "accident" and what lead him to fake his own death. They also cover how he went about his life after the faking, and how it all came crumbling down in Panama five years after.
RESOURCES:
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2007/dec/03/aidanjones
https://web.archive.org/web/20100813043948/https://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/missing-canoeist--wreck-is.611443.jp
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/1887151.stm
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/how-canoe-man-john-darwin-12774087
https://www.standard.co.uk/hp/front/kansas-truck-driver-my-wife-was-not-having-affair-with-lost-canoeist-john-darwin-6644178.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20071213040619/http://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/johndarwinmissingcanoeist/EXCLUSIVE-Overheard-phone-call-led.3561417.jp
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12/5/2022 • 57 minutes, 1 second
The Germond Family Thanksgiving Murders
Sara and Danny kick off the week with some updates on Elizabeth Holmes before diving into this week's case: The Germond House Murders. They take us back all the way to Thanksgiving in 1930, where a dairy farm in upstate New York was the setting for the murder of an entire family. They walk us through all the details of the case and give us some theories of what could've been the motive behind the murders, which to this day remains a mystery. To end the show, they play a few rounds of some good old fashioned Thanksgiving Day Trivia.
RESOURCES:
s://www.nydailynews.com/true-crime-justice-story/ny-thanksgiving-eve-murders-20221119-skj6nxxqvndlddaeosnhc2isca-story.html
https://modernfarmer.com/2017/10/death-dairy-farm-family-murdered-1930-still-unsolved/
https://www.oxygen.com/crime-news/lori-vallow-trial-moves-forward-her-competency-restored
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11/28/2022 • 54 minutes, 24 seconds
The Murder Of Ray McNeil (Killer Sally Review)
Sara and Danny bring us the story of the murder of Ray McNeil at the hands of Sally McNeil, as covered in the recent documentary ‘Killer Sally’. They start off with some background info on the couple, and their involvement in bodybuilding culture. They also cover their turbulent marriage, which included multiple instances of domestic violence throughout the year. After that, the get into the event in question and the trial that followed it, including the evidence, or lack thereof, of Sally acting in self-defense. To the the show, they play a game called 'Ace In The Swole,' where they dive into the bodybuilding world as they try to explain some obscure workout exercises.
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11/21/2022 • 1 hour, 9 minutes, 38 seconds
The Disappearance Of Emanuela Orlandi (Vatican Girl Review)
This week, Sara and Danny are back to talk about the disappearance of Emanuela Orlandi, Italy’s most famous unsolved mystery. They get into the circumstances of Emanuela's disappearance after a flute lesson in 1983, and the numerous alleged sightings throughout the years. They also discuss various theory's behind her disappearance, which range from mafia involvement to the Church as the villain. To end the show, they play "Vati-can or Vati-can't," where they put their knowledge of Vatican City landmarks to the test.
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11/14/2022 • 1 hour, 5 minutes, 13 seconds
BREAKING NEWS: Casey Anthony's Documentary, Ryan Murphy's Next Project, & Elizabeth Holmes
Sara and Danny are back with a few updates on some stories everyone is talking about in the true crime world, this time touching on Casey Anthony, Ryan Murphy, and Elizabeth Holmes. As always, make sure to follow @notanothertruecrime to stay up to date with the latest!
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11/10/2022 • 28 minutes, 55 seconds
The Watcher (Miniseries Review)
Sara and Danny are back talk all about the new Netflix series The Watcher, based on a real story taking place in Westfield, New Jersey. They give some background on Derek and Maria Broaddus, who even before moving into their newly purchased home, began to receive threatening letters from an anonymous person calling themselves ‘The Watcher.’ Then, they talk about the series so far, and some differences between the fictionalized version of these events. To end the show, they play a game called “We Are They Ones Who Watch!,” where they try their best to remember some of the numerous true crime docs that have come out this year and when they were released.
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11/7/2022 • 56 minutes, 34 seconds
Dolly Oesterreich's Ghost In The Attic
Sara and Danny are back with the stranger-than-fiction story of Walburga Oesterreich, a German woman who settled in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. They talk about her background and what her life was like in the early 1900's, as well as the secret she was hiding in the attic through the years. They also cover the death of her husband, and the part she had to play in the whole endeavor. To end the show, they play a Halloween Themed trivia game, where they attempt to identify iconic horror movie quotes and answer some questions about them.
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10/31/2022 • 52 minutes, 26 seconds
The Murder of Kim Wall (Into the Deep: The Submarine Murder Case Documentary Review)
Danny is back for a solo episode this week covering the murder of Kim Wall, a Swedish journalist who was killed in 2017 in Denmark. Danny talks us through the circumstances of her murder, and how Peter Madsen managed to lure her to his submarine Nautilus under the guise of an interview. He also gets into how the murder was discovered, and the investigation that followed it unfolded. Then, he wraps up by giving his thoughts on the recent Netflix documentary detailing the case.
RESOURCES:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54018795
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-40922750
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/09/danish-killer-peter-madsen-confesses-to-murder-of-kim-wall-for-first-time
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10/17/2022 • 48 minutes, 16 seconds
The Sex Cult Of Larry Ray | Sex, Lies and the College Cult Review
Sara and Danny are back to break down the story of Larry Ray, who has been found guilty of running a sex cult at Sarah Lawrence University. They first go over the details of how Ray managed to recruit college students into an abusive cult through over a decade of abuse and manipulation. They also get into the recent Peacock documentary on the case and discuss what the doc got right, and where it misses the mark. To end the show, they are put to the test with a series of college-level questions to see if they are in face smarter than a college student!
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10/10/2022 • 59 minutes, 4 seconds
Sins Of Our Mother
Sara and Danny breakdown the recent Netflix true crime doc 'Sins of Our Mother,' which follows the terrifying story of Lori Vallow Daybell and her husband Chad Daybell, who have been accused of murdering two of her children. The give some background on the whole story and how it all happend before diving into some recent updates of the state of the trial, and how it might unfold once it happens.
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10/3/2022 • 42 minutes, 8 seconds
The Lou Perlman Story
This week, Danny is back with Jorge to breakdown a fraudster that had an undeniable impact on pop culture in the 90's: Lou Perlman. They get into Lou's beginnings before launching bands massively successful such as Backstreet Boys and NSYNC, and how he went from one scam to another defrauding people from all walks of life one step at a time. The also talk about the barrage of suits he faced throughout his fraudulent career, and just how he managed to escape jail for so many years.
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9/26/2022 • 1 hour, 8 minutes, 47 seconds
BREAKING UPDATES: Adnand Syed's Release
Sara and Danny are back for a special bonus episode covering how "Serial" subject Adnand Syed was released from prison after his conviction was vacated (at least, for now) due to deficiencies found in how the prosecutors turned over their evidence to the defense attorneys 23 years ago. Follow @notanothertruecrime to stay up to date with all of these updates as they develop!
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9/21/2022 • 24 minutes, 27 seconds
Quiz Show Scandal
Sara and Danny take us back to the 1950’s to dive into a scandal that rocked the brand new world of Quiz Show TV. They follow the stories of Jack Barry and Dan Enright, and the lengths they went through to make their show Twenty-One interesting to watch, which ended up getting Congress involved. To end the show they play a very special edition of Jeopardy!, all centered around various true crime categories to see who knows their true crime trivia best.
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9/19/2022 • 56 minutes, 16 seconds
The Disappearance Of Lynette Dawson
Sara and Danny are back to cover the case of Chris Dawson, an Australian rugby league footballer whose wife, Lynette Dawson, mysteriously disappeared from their family home. They go all the way back to the beginning of their relationship in Australia and set the scene before her disappearance, which included infidelity on Chris's part and reports of abuse. After that they get into the investigation that followed it which spanned decades, and which eventually came to a verdict a few weeks ago.
RESOURCES
https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/30/australia/australia-chris-dawson-wife-murder-verdict-intl-hnk
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/sep/03/she-felt-she-could-trust-him-chris-dawson-trial-lays-bare-his-chilling-pursuit-of-teen-girl
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/05/world/australia/chris-dawson-arrest-teachers-pet.html
The Teacher’s Pet
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-05/lyn-dawsons-family-will-never-forgive-chris-dawson-over-murder/101391012
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9/12/2022 • 51 minutes, 53 seconds
Is OneTaste A Sex Cult?
This week, Sara and Danny cover OneTaste, an organization founded around their belief in the power of OM or orgasmic meditation. They dig into the group's controversial operations that caused an FBI investigation, which included reports of sex trafficking, prostitution, and manipulation all under the guise of sexual freedom and empowerment. They also talk about the organization's similarity to MLM's and how it took advantage of its clients and employees and left many in serious debt.
RESOURCES:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-06-18/the-dark-side-of-onetaste-the-orgasmic-meditation-company
https://www.lamag.com/culturefiles/inside-hollywoods-orgasm-cult/
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9/5/2022 • 55 minutes, 35 seconds
Murder Of Burt Templet | I Just Killed My Dad Documentary Review
Sara and Danny are back to breakdown the story of the murder of Burt Templet, as well as the recent Netflix documentary on the case. They kick off the episode with some context on the circumstances of the murder before diving in to the events of the night. They also cover the aftermath of the murder, and the twist that made it all the more interesting. To wrap things off, they give their thoughts on the documentary itself. Be sure to follow @notanothertruecrime to stay up to date with true crime news and suggest new cases to cover on the pod!
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*Since the recording of this episode, an autopsy has confirmed that Kiley Rodni’s remains have been found in a car at Prosser Creek Reservoir.
Sara and Danny are back for a special bonus episode covering some developing updates, this time on Kiely Rodni's disappearance in from a camp party in California as well as a newly released FBI report detailing Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie's altercations throughout their marriage as their custody battles continues. Follow @notanothertruecrime to stay up to date with all of these updates as they develop!
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8/24/2022 • 31 minutes, 59 seconds
Larry Rudolph
This week, Sara and Danny return to Zambia for another murder case . This time, they dive into the death of Bianca Rudolph by an alleged accidental firing of a hunting shotgun while on a hunting trip with her then husband, Larry Rudolph. They kick off with some background on the couple and Larry's dental business in Arizona for which he developed a reputation for shadiness and less-than-stellar bedside manner. They also get into the affair that might've been the reason for the murder, and how it all transpired when the couple took a hunting trip to Zambia, After that, they cover the trial that followed the events and how the court ruled recently as they decided the fate of Larry Rudolph. The end the episode putting their knowledge of Zambia to the test!
RESOURCES:
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/bianca-larry-rudolph-murder-allegations-safari-dentist-1370972/
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/02/us/larry-rudolph-dentist-found-guilty.html
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/wife-of-pittsburgh-dentist-dies-from-fatal-gunshot-on-safari-was-it-an-accident-or-murder/
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8/22/2022 • 1 hour, 3 minutes, 52 seconds
The Girl In The Picture
Sara and Danny are back this week to talk about Netflix’s documentary, ‘Girl in the Picture,’ the unimaginable story of Tonya Dawn Hughes’ kidnapping and murder. Tonya (aka Sharon Marshall aka Suzanne Sevakis) perished in the hospital after being found on the side of the road with severe head trauma. The story unravels from there—every time you think you get the picture, there’s another layer to the lie! And, what’s the deal with her father, fugitive Franklin Floyd? Or is it her husband? Wait, he pimped her out as a stripper? Wait, he's not even her father? He kidnapped her son? Confusing we know! Finally, Sara and Danny wrap things up with the game, Girl in the Moving Picture, where they’re asked to match women characters to the movies they appeared in.
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8/15/2022 • 57 minutes, 48 seconds
Teal Swan’s Toxic Spirituality (The Deep End)
TW: This episode contains discussion and references to suicide. If you are thinking about suicide, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 1-800-273-TALK (8255) or the Suicide Crisis Line at 1-800-784-2433.
Sara and Danny are back this week to talk all about Teal Swan, the focus of the recent documentary "The Deep End." They start off with Teal Swan's beginning and her claims of possessing extrasensory abilities, and how she made a name for herself through a series of youtube videos. Then they cover the cult-like group she's created and the controversial behavior that she's exhibited as their leader. They also get into the experiences of various previous members of the group and how they recall their time within it.
RESOURCES:
https://tealswan.com/about-teal/
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50478821
https://www.eonline.com/news/1335268/inside-the-deep-end-the-rise-of-teal-swan-and-her-controversial-completion-process-program
https://tealswan.com/curveball/?fbclid=IwAR3fMKictajUdxFC1kQU-J002hK8YmWqL2NGdfBLKR13yRjnmJg1hsMvGGk
https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2018/08/205915/the-gateway-teal-swan-youtube-cult-jennings-brown
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8/8/2022 • 52 minutes, 21 seconds
The Questions Surrounding Delia Owens (Where The Crawdads Sing)
This week, Sara and Danny are back to cover the story of Delia Owens, the author of best-selling book turned movie Where The Crawdads Sing. They talk about Owens' involvement in battles against poachers in Zambia, which allegedly turned murderous in the 90's. They also talk about parallels that the book shares with the real life story, and Delia's family's connection to the events. To end the show, they test their knowledge on infamously poor book turned movies adaptations that missed the mark.
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8/1/2022 • 56 minutes, 50 seconds
UPDATES ROUND-UP: Murdagh Murders, Armie Hammer, & Casey White
Sara and Danny are back for another round of updates, this time on the latest from the Murdagh Murders, Armie Hammer, and Casey White. Be sure to follow @notanothertruecrime to stay u to date with all of these stories as they develop!
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7/25/2022 • 38 minutes, 48 seconds
Sarah Howe (The Scheme Queen) & The Ladies Deposit Company
In this episode, Sara and Danny take it all the way back to eighth grade Social Studies and recount the story of the woman who started a Ponzi scheme before it was even a thing. Howe launched a ‘charity’ to help unmarried women (aka Unprotected Females aka millennial Girl Bosses) and got them to make small donations to help her Swanky Bank. Her #gatekeeping was so successful that male reporters literally couldn’t even get inside her building when her business endeavors got suspicious. Unfortunately she wasn’t a #womanhelpingwomen; when her clients demanded their money back, Howe couldn’t pay them back. Then, the NY Times claimed that women shouldn’t be trusted with money. But Howe was anything but stupid. Finally, Sara and Danny finish things off with some trivia: Sarah Howe did it happen?
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7/18/2022 • 46 minutes, 41 seconds
BREAKING NEWS: Kaitlin Armstrong, Jen Shah’s Plea & Theranos Updates
Sara and Danny are here with a special bonus episode to talk about a few true crime topics hitting the headlines this week! They cover an Austin love triangle with a yoga teacher at the center of it, Jen Shah’s plea in her fraud case, and the verdict of the case agains Sunny Balwani, the former COO of Theranos. Be sure to follow @notanothertruecrime to stay up to date on all of these topics and more as they unfold!
RESOURCES:
https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/real-housewives-star-jennifer-shah-plead-guilty-fraud/story?id=86601509&cid=social_twitter_abcn
https://people.com/crime/sunny-balwani-trial-conclusion/
https://www.oxygen.com/crime-news/kaitlyn-armstrong-capture-costa-rica-details-released
https://www.npr.org/2022/05/23/1100721218/cyclist-murder-moriah-wilson-kaitlin-armstrong
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7/14/2022 • 25 minutes, 55 seconds
Warren Jeffs & FLDS
Sara and Danny are back to dive into a fundamentalist religion that has been linked to all manner of abuses and scandals: The Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. The get into the Church’s beginning as an offshoot of Mormonism and all the key players that had a hand in establishing it, including its current leader, Warren Jeffs. No cult is complete without crimes, and they discuss the crimes committed by Jeffs and other members of FLDS, how they were caught, and where the perpetrators are now. To end the show, they play a game of “LDS, or LSD?,” where they try to guess whether certain peculiar situations are either so-called miracles from various religions or acid trips from various pop culture media.
RESOURCES:
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/fundamentalist-church-jesus-christ-latter-day-saints
https://web.archive.org/web/20100330223759/http://www.fldstruth.org/administration.php?index=8
https://www.nytimes.com/2002/09/15/us/mormon-leader-is-survived-by-33-sons-and-a-void.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/23/us/23polygamist.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/01/us/01polygamy.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/26/us/26jeffs.html?ref=warren_s_jeffs
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7/11/2022 • 50 minutes, 52 seconds
Mormon MomTok Drama Ft. Lola and Meagan From Trust Me
This week, Sara and Danny are joined by Lola Blanc and Meagan Elizabeth from the podcast "Trust Me: Cults, Extreme Beliefs, and the Abuse of Power" to talk all about the scandal that swept through Mormon MomTok. They discuss the Mormon MomToker at the center of it all, Taylor Frankie Paul, and how her unexpected news about her divorce rocked the MomTok world. They also breakdown all details of the scandal, and even explain what "soft swinging" really means. Be sure to check out the Trust Me podcast wherever you get your podcasts!
RESOURCES:
https://www.insider.com/expert-explains-soft-swinging-how-the-mormon-momtok-drama-unfolded-2022-6
https://www.thecut.com/2022/06/mormon-momtok-swingers-drama-explained.html
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7/4/2022 • 43 minutes, 2 seconds
The Mast Bros Chocolate Scandal Ft. Dan Perlman
This week, Sara and Danny are joined by comedian and writer Dan Perlman to break down the chocolate company whose scandal shook the world of bougie confectionary: Mast Chocolate. They talk all about the company used fancy sounding buzzwords like bean-to-bar to fool everyone into thinking that their chocolate was the next big thing, all the while using commercially available chocolate and selling it at a way too high price. Be sure to follow @danperlman and watch Season 2 of his show Flatbush Misdemeanors out now!
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6/27/2022 • 50 minutes, 38 seconds
The Hipster Grifter & LIVE Show Games!
Sara and Danny are back to cover a deep cut from 2009, The Hipster Grifter. They talk all about Kari Ferrell’s fraud-fueled journey from Salt Lake City all the way to the hipster capital of the world, Brooklyn. The cover all the scams she did along the way and how on earth she was able to get a job at Vice with just a few simple lies. After that, we’re bringing you all the games from our live show at Union Hall, where Sara and Danny go head to head (with the help of some audience members) to see who will come out on top. Be sure to follow @notanothertruecrime to be sure not to miss our next live show!
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6/20/2022 • 1 hour, 27 minutes, 25 seconds
The Psychic Ponzi Scheme
Sara and Danny are back to talk about a scam in the 90's that affected over a million people in the US and abroad: the Maria Duval psychic mail scam. They go through all the details of how the scam came to be and how it functioned, and just how it managed to generate over $200 million in revenue by targeting the sick and the elderly. They also get into how the scam was brought down by the US government, and what happened to the fraudsters who perpetrated the scheme. To end the episode, they put their psychic powers of prediction to the test, answering a series of questions about how the rest of the year will unfold!
RESOURCES:
https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2018/07/investigates/maria-duval-psychic-scam-invs/index.html
https://nypost.com/2018/08/25/how-a-psychic-bilked-250m-with-a-simple-mail-scam/
https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/new-york/nyedce/2:2014cv06791/363225/51/
https://money.cnn.com/2016/03/16/news/psychic-maria-duval-chapter-four/index.html
https://money.cnn.com/2016/03/30/news/psychic-maria-duval-chapter-five/index.html
https://money.cnn.com/2016/03/16/news/maria-duval-psychics/index.html
https://ecf.nyed.uscourts.gov/doc1/123111878951
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6/13/2022 • 50 minutes, 13 seconds
Candy Montgomery
Danny and Sara are back to cover the murder of Betty Gore at the hands of Candy Montgomery. They get into all the particulars of the case, and how a quiet neighborhood in Texas was the site of the gruesome murder. They also talk all about the events leading up to the murder, including the affair between Candy and Allan Gore that ultimately led to Betty's murder. They also discuss the bizarrely short trial that followed it, and the Hulu adaptation that just came out. To end the show, they play "I Want Candy!," where they try to name famous candy bars just from their slogans.
RESOURCES:
https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-politics/love-and-death-in-silicon-prairie-part-i-candy-montgomerys-affair/
https://www.myimperfectlife.com/features/where-is-candy-montgomery-today
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/candy-montgomery-hulu-true-story-jessica-biel-b2082120.html
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6/6/2022 • 59 minutes, 11 seconds
7M & The Alleged Tiktok Dance Cult
Sara and Danny are back to talk about a company that's been in the headlines for the wrong reasons: 7M Films, which some allege is a cult. They break down the history of 7M, its church ties, as well as the latest accusations and previous legal troubles. To end the episode, they play a game of "On Pointe!" where they put their knowledge of a very different type of dancing (ballet) to the test. Be sure to follow @notanothertruecrime to find tickets to our upcoming live show on June 5th!
RESOURCES:
https://www.thecut.com/2022/05/wilking-sisters-7m-allegations.html
https://www.thedailybeast.com/inside-the-cult-claims-surrounding-miranda-derrick-and-her-tiktok-dance-crew-7m-films
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5/30/2022 • 57 minutes, 35 seconds
The Way Down Pt. 2
Sara and Danny kick off the episode with some updates on the Brittanee Drexel disappearance, now that we’ve finally gotten some answers. After that, they dive into The Way Down part 2, and talk all about the second installment of the bizarre cult that mixed diet and religion. The get into the new information that was brought to us on the doc, and They also talk about if this second part was even necessary, and why these well known stories get a seemingly endless amount of attention while some other lesser known stories are barely covered.
RESOURCES:
https://www.foxnews.com/us/georgia-beauty-queen-tara-grinstead-murder-trial
https://people.com/crime/georgia-teacher-and-former-beauty-queen-was-killed-17-years-ago-former-student-at-school-is-on-trial/
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5/23/2022 • 45 minutes, 9 seconds
Internet Sleuthing With Deanna Thompson AKA Baudi Moovan
Sara and Danny are joined by the one and only Deanna Thompson AKA Baudi Moovan who we all know and love from Don't F**k With Cats! They start off talking about her involvement in the Luka Magnotta case and how the process of filming the documentary unfolded. She also shares what the documentary got absolutely right, and a few things that it didn’t quite nail. Then, they get into the work that she does online and how she goes about it, and why some internet sleuths end up doing more damage than good if they’re not careful and thoughtful about what they’re doing. Be sure to follow Deanna @realbaudimoovan to stay up to date with her projects!
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5/16/2022 • 48 minutes, 48 seconds
The Tara Grinstead Murder Trial Begins Ft. Payne Lindsey
This week, Sara and Danny are back with Payne Lindsey, who's back to share with us the updates on the case he helped bring to light years ago at this point: the disappearance of Tara Grinstead. They go over a quick overview of the case and then talk all about how the trail is shaping on and the give their thoughts on how it'll all unfold. After that, they get into some other pop culture topics and trials that are going on right now and Payne share's his thoughts on them with us. Be sure to follow @paynelindsey to stay up to date with everything he's doing!
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5/9/2022 • 49 minutes, 56 seconds
The Rise & Fall of Abercrombie & Fitch
Sara and Danny are back to hit us all with a hefty dose of 90's nostalgia as they discuss Netflix's latest documentary on Abercrombie & Fitch. They go over all the problematic aspects of the clothing store as it was run during its meteoric rise, and the racist and self-proclaimed exclusionary policies that they practiced for years before their declined. To end the show, they play a game called 'Musical Directions,' during which they put their musical knowledge to the test as they try to complete the lyrics of some iconic songs.
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5/2/2022 • 57 minutes, 22 seconds
Murders at Starved Rock
Sara and Danny are back to cover a case from the 60's that remains an open question to this day: the murders at Starved Rock for which Chester Weger spent almost 60 years in prison despite always maintaining his innocence. They go over everything we know about the case and the trial that followed it which garnered national attention. They also get into the events that led to his recent release under parole in 2020 and they the recent HBO documentary on the case. Be sure to follow @notanothertruecrime to stay up to date with the case and to get your tickets for our upcoming live show!
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4/25/2022 • 56 minutes, 56 seconds
The Crypto King
Sara and Danny are back this week to discuss the bizarre story of Gerald Cotten that still has people searching for answers to this day. They kick things off with his early life and the founding of his crypto exchange Quadriga that quickly became the biggest cryptocurrency marketplace in Canada. Then, they get into his sudden death in India, and the circumstances that led to being millions of dollars worth of crypto to just vanish. They also discuss their theories of what actually happened, and whether Cotten is really dead or somehow managed to pull off the biggest scam in crypto history.
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4/18/2022 • 52 minutes, 27 seconds
CONversations With The Scam Goddess Ft. Laci Mosley
Danny and Sara are joined by the Scam Goddess herself, Laci Mosley (fangirl much?), to talk all about the latest true crime docs and celebrity cons. They start with the new Crypto King Netflix movie, revisit Bad Vegan, and talk about the semi-celeb credit card no one asked for. Then Laci shares some of her favorite con artist stories of all time, before closing things out with a convo about her role in the new iCarly reboot.
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4/11/2022 • 44 minutes, 30 seconds
Crime News Round-Up: Manson Murders, Ronnie Leon Hyde’s Trial, & True Crime Obsessed Philanthropists
For this episode, Sara and Danny are back with a veritable Smorgasbord of true crime news that have been on our radar's lately. They start off with an update on Leslie Van Houten’s parole review and what California governor Gavin Newsome ruled on the matter. Then, they go over Ronnie Leon Hyde's Trial, a former youth pastor who is pleading guilty to charges of murder & dismemberment. The round it all off discussing a recent NYT article about how a select group of True Crime obsessed are aiding police forces in solving cold cases by donating considerable amounts of money to carry out DNA testing. Be sure to follow us @notanothertruecrime to stay up to date with true crime news!
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4/4/2022 • 49 minutes, 18 seconds
Bad Vegan
Sara and Danny are back (in studio!) to talk all about the latest Netflix Documentary taking the world of true crime by storm, 'Bad Vegan.' They give a little backround of the story and dive right in with the bizarre story of Sarma Melngailis and Anthony Strangis (aka Mr. Fox), which at times seems stranger than fiction. They also talk all about the documentary itself and give their thoughts on it overall. Let us know what you thought of it @notanothertruecrime!
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3/28/2022 • 1 hour, 9 minutes, 20 seconds
The Alleged Kidnapping Of Sherri Papini
Sara and Danny are back to cover a case with a bizarre recent twist: the kidnapping of Sherri Papini. In 2016, she was "abducted," only to mysteriously reappear a few weeks later. After her story didn't quite add up, an investigation was launched that slowly started piecing together what actually happened to Sherri, and what they uncovered was pretty unbelievable. Recent updates have shed some light on Sherri's tall tales, and we break down everything we know so far. Be sure to follow @notanothertruecrime to stay up to date with all the ongoing updates!
RESOURCES:
https://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/FBI-says-Sherri-Papini-made-up-kidnapping-16980963.php
https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/08/us/sherri-papini-detention-hearing/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/07/us/sherri-papini-affidavit-ex-boyfriend/index.html
https://www.justice.gov/usao-edca/press-release/file/1479901/download
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3/14/2022 • 51 minutes, 10 seconds
The Murder Of Joy Risker Ft. Faith Jenkins
Sara and Danny are back to talk about the tragic murder of Joy Risker in San Diego in 2003, which they learned all about from Killer Relationship with Faith Jenkins. They get into the particulars of the case, and how her strange disappearance was investigated and ultimately solved. After that, we are joined by Faith Jenkins herself for a special interview! She shares her insights on the case and what led her to covering it on the show. They also talk about She even shares some red flags that are commonly ignored in relationships and why they can be Be sure to check out Killer Relationship on Oxygen!
RESOURCES:
https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna16553112
https://www.oxygen.com/killer-relationship-with-faith-jenkins/crime-news/sean-goff-polygamist-preachers-kills-wife-joy
https://www.oxygen.com/killer-relationship-with-faith-jenkins/crime-news/joy-risker-case-what-to-know-before-killer
http://www.sddt.com/News/article.cfm?SourceCode=20060915ci#.Yh5R6hPMKWC
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/wbna16546748
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3/7/2022 • 1 hour, 6 minutes, 14 seconds
The Murder of Paige Birgfeld Ft. CC Suarez
This week, Sara and Danny are joined by anti-MLM boss/commentary youtuber CC Suarez to cover the murder of Paige Birgfeld. CC starts off by sharing some of her background and her work and then we dig right into the case. They run through the circumstances behind Paige's disappearance in Colorado and how the investigation was conducted from the outset. They also cover the revelation that Paige was leading a double life before her disappearance, and how that impacted the subsequent efforts. The round it off covering the tracking down of the culprit and how the courts handled the case Be sure to follow CC at @iamccsuarez and check out her amazing Youtube page CC Suarez!
RESOURCES:
CC's Vid on the case: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6gZRN8cYck
https://abcnews.go.com/US/trials-killer-colorado-mom-secret-life-appeals-conviction/story?id=77812059
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/48-hours-the-secret-life-of-paige-birgfe
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2/28/2022 • 55 minutes, 40 seconds
BREAKING NEWS: Inventing Anna, Susan Cox Powell’s Remains, and Prince Andrew’s Settlement
Sara and Danny bring us a special bonus episode with a few stories hitting the headlines this week! They start off with a few thoughts on Netflix's Inventing Anna before diving into the headlines. First, they discuss the potential discovery of Susan Cox Powell's remains over a decade after her disappearance in Utah. They also talk about Prince Andrew's recent settlement in a sexual assault case levied against him. Make sure to follow @notanothertruecrime for ongoing updates, and going the Facebook group where we talk all about them!
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2/17/2022 • 28 minutes, 52 seconds
The Tinder Swindler
This week, Sara and Danny are back to cover a con-artist that lurked Tinder to find his victims. They breakdown the details of how he would operate and how he managed to go for years without being caught, and how it all came crashing down eventually. They also discuss the recent Netflix documentary on the the subject, and how the documentary handled the story. To end the show, they play a game called 'Go Fund Yourself', where they try to guess how various absurd crowdfunding campaigns have fared
RESOURCES:
https://www.timesofisrael.com/el-al-rabbi-accused-in-fraud-scheme-alongside-son-the-tinder-swindler/
https://www.timesofisrael.com/tinder-swindler-extradited-back-to-israel-to-face-charges/
https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-tinder-swindler-sentenced-to-15-months-in-prison/
https://www.newsweek.com/lld-diamonds-simon-leviev-response-comment-tinder-swindler-netflix-shimon-hayut-1676130
https://www.insider.com/tinder-swindler-fake-billionaire-scammed-women-dates-into-debt-documentary-2022-2
https://www.vg.no/spesial/2019/tindersvindleren/english/
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2/14/2022 • 1 hour, 7 minutes, 1 second
A Manhattan Shrink And A Sledgehammer
This week, Sara and Danny are back to cover a crime that made headlines all over New York City, the attempted murder of Michael Weiss in his Manhattan apartment. They start off giving some background in the people involved in the attack, including Jacob Nolan, who was the attacker, as well as Pamela Buchbinder, the victim's ex-girlfriend who allegedly convinced Jacob to carry out the attack. They also get into the state of the case today, and how 'justice' has been carried out so far. To end the show, they play a game during which they try to use their powers of manipulation and deception on the other host to see which one is going to be the winner of today's game!
RESOURCES:
https://nypost.com/2014/03/09/baby-mama-appears-to-buy-sledgehammer-used-to-attack-ex-video/
https://nypost.com/2014/10/13/victim-of-grisly-sledgehammer-attack-to-confront-his-ex-in-family-court/
https://nypost.com/2016/03/14/sledgehammer-attacker-convicted-for-attempting-to-murder-cousins-husband/
https://nypost.com/2016/03/02/teen-brainwashed-by-psychiatrist-cousin-to-attempt-murder-lawyers/
https://nypost.com/2016/07/27/sledgehammer-attacker-gets-10-years-for-attempted-murder/
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/dr-pamela-buchbinder-jacob-nolan-did-psychiatrist-brainwash-cousin-to-kill-ex-lover/
https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/shrink-charged-alleged-plot-kill-ex-lover-sledgehammer-article-1.3577782
https://nypost.com/2017/10/21/psychiatrist-who-allegedly-ordered-sledgehammer-bludgeoning-pleads-not-guilty/
https://www.localsyr.com/news/local-news/wanted-attempted-murder-suspect-from-nyc-caught-in-fayetteville/
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2/7/2022 • 53 minutes, 22 seconds
The Real Housewives of Fraud Lake City Pt. 2
Sara and Danny are back with some fraud-y updates coming from The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. First up, they breakdown the suit against Justin Rose and the company LifeVantage, an MLM that has been accused of being an illegal pyramid scheme. After that they dig into Mary Cosby's alleged cult, based around a church she inherited from her grandmother. They end the show with a game called 'Coming In First!", where they test their knowledge on the timeline of reality tv shows throughout the years and answer some trivia questions about them.
RESOURCES:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/justin-rose-51aa8225/
https://cdn.lifevantage.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/1/2021/02/24103713/average-earnings-disclosure-20210127.pdf
https://www.truthinadvertising.org/lifevantage-pyramid-scheme-claims/
https://www.truthinadvertising.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Smith-v-Lifevantage-complaint.pdf
https://www.truthinadvertising.org/lifevantage-faces-pyramid-scheme-lawsuit/
https://realityblurb.com/2021/12/16/rhoslc-star-whitney-roses-husband-justin-sued-for-role-in-alleged-pyramid-scheme-plus-details-of-lawsuit-revealed/
https://www.winston.com/en/direct-sellers-update-regulation-law-and-policy/federal-court-dismisses-multiple-claims-in-ongoing-class-action-against-lifevantage.html
https://www.lifevantage.com/us-en/company
https://www.womenshealthmag.com/life/a38320133/mary-cosby-church-rhoslc-cult-leader-cameron/
https://www.thedailybeast.com/rhoslcs-mary-cosby-is-accused-of-running-a-religious-cult-by-former-congregation-members
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1/31/2022 • 1 hour, 3 minutes, 35 seconds
The Sims Family Murders
This week, Sara and Danny are back to cover a cold case from the 60's that has remained unsolved to this day: The Sims Family Murders. They start off by breaking down the night in question and the timeline of events as it happened. Then, they talk about why the case has remained unsolved for so long, and go through the list of suspects that has been compiled throughout the years. To end the episode, they put their knowledge of football to the test, to see which of them is going to score a touchdown in the week's game.
RESOURCES:
https://www.tallahassee.com/story/news/2016/07/27/suspect-sims-murders-posts-musings-internet/87621126/
https://www.meridianstar.com/news/local_news/murder-mystery/article_eb758e96-ed4f-5856-87a9-b0fdbf641bd9.html
https://news.fsu.edu/news/arts-humanities/2016/10/26/fsu-students-break-new-ground-film-cold-case/
https://medium.com/lessons-from-history/the-sims-family-triple-homicide-6bb55e55b8d3
https://www.indoorclimbing.com/Square_Knot.html
https://www.wtxl.com/news/fsu-football-video-may-hold-secrets-in-sims-murder-fallout/article_81d96a94-55d1-11e6-b26d-3b098a751f6e.html
https://vimeo.com/189936003?fbclid=IwAR3mvoHzF9N3FOSYUzjrYVDY0bObGRyV69QqW4BffQxWuvvQaxsSC7e5Pf0
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1/24/2022 • 1 hour, 5 minutes, 42 seconds
The Murder At Soho House
This week, with Sara away on vacation (we miss you Sara!), Danny and Jorge cover a tragic case that took place in one of NYC's trendiest social clubs, The Soho House. They begin with a bit of background on the Soho House itself before diving into all the details of the murder. They discuss the victim Sylvie Cachay's early life and career in fashion and how she met her boyfriend Nicholas Brooks, and how it all went south so quickly. They also breakdown all the detail of the night of the tragic event, and how the case unfolded in the aftermath.
RESOURCES:
48 Hours: Death At Soho House (Troy Roberts)
https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/timeline-investigating-the-death-of-designer-sylvie-cachay/16/
https://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/06/fashion/06soho.html
https://nymag.com/news/features/71271/
https://nypost.com/2011/06/23/joseph-brooks-leaves-250k-to-personal-trainer-nothing-to-four-kids/
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1/10/2022 • 45 minutes, 3 seconds
New Year, Same NATCP
Happy New Year! Sara and Danny start 2022 off with a bang as they give their superlatives for the year past and look forward to the year ahead. They run through their favorite true crime docs, disappointments, and moments of 2021 before sharing what they are most looking forward to in the year to come. Be sure to follow @notanothertruecrime to stay in touch and share with us what you're looking forward to the most!
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1/3/2022 • 39 minutes, 15 seconds
The Lawson Family Murders
Sara and Danny are back for the final episode of the year! This week, they cover the Lawson Family Murders, during which Germanton tobacco farmer Charlie Lawson murdered his family on the afternoon of Christmas Day in 1929. They get into all the details leading up to the day and also discuss some possible motives behind the seemingly senseless act. To end the episode, they play a round of trivia on obscure facts of the crop that the Lawson family grew at their farm: tobacco. Happy Holidays from the NATCP Fam!
RESOURCES:
Deadly Secrets: The Lawson Family Murder Podcast
https://greensboro.com/community/rockingham_now/lawson-family-murders-a-look-back-after-90-years/article_16aeaae1-5ded-57e8-bde0-35e0d3e69466.html
https://murderpedia.org/male.L/l/lawson-charles-davis.htm
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12/27/2021 • 49 minutes, 51 seconds
BREAKING UPDATES Round-Up
With so many updates going on lately, we are back this week with a full round-up of everything that is happening in the world of crime. Sara is joined by Betches Pop Culture expert Dylan Hafer to break down all the news stories, including The Delphi Murders, Jen Shah, Scott Peterson, Ghislane Maxwell, Elizabeth Holmes, and Josh Duggar. Be sure to follow @notanothertruecrime to stay up to date with all the updates as they happens!
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12/20/2021 • 53 minutes, 19 seconds
The Fruitcake Fraud
Sara and Danny are back to cover a holiday themed fraud for the ages. They get into the crimes of Sandy and Kay Jenkins, who worked for world-renowned Collin Street Bakery and stole millions of dollars from the company for years. To end the show, they take a trip down fraud memory lane in “Fraudie or Hottie?,” during which they try to decide whether various iconic frauds deserve some respect or we’re simply bad grifts.
RESOURCES:
https://www.ketk.com/news/new-documentary-recounts-the-collin-street-bakery-fraud-scandal/
https://cpahalltalk.com/how-16-million-stolen-bakery/
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/03/03/the-american-greed-report-is-your-financial-pro-ripping-you-off-watch-for-these-warning-signs.html
https://www.hhcpa.com/blogs/business-valuation-litigation-blog/how-do-you-not-notice-17-million-missing/#:~:text=Sandy%20Jenkins'%20scheme%20was%20discovered,he%20would%20%E2%80%9Cfix%20it%E2%80%9D.
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12/13/2021 • 53 minutes, 58 seconds
"Hell's Belle" Gunness
Sara and Danny are back to cover the crime spree of Belle Gunness, a farm owner in Illinois in the early 1900's. They start off with some relevant details of her early life and her immigration to the US from Norway, and then get into the suspicious deaths of people surrounding her who conveniently had named her as the beneficiary of multiple life insurance policies. They also break down how it all came to and end, and the trial that followed it which left many questions unanswered. To end the show, the travel back in time to explore old marital ads that were published in various newspapers, and decide if they would swipe left or right to these eligible bachelors looking for love.
RESOURCES:
https://www.biography.com/crime-figure/belle-gunness
https://laportelibrary.org/at-the-library/explore-local/belle-gunness/
https://laportecountyhistory.org/exhibits/belle-gunness/
https://www.syfy.com/syfy-wire/triflers-need-not-apply-the-story-of-deadly-belle-gunness
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12/6/2021 • 57 minutes, 16 seconds
BREAKING UPDATES: Ghislane Maxwell, Elizabeth Holmes, and Hulu's Astroworld Documentary
Sara and Danny are here with another special bonus episode covering the latest developments in a few evolving stories. They kick things off with a breakdown of the Ghislane Maxwell trial and all the bizarre details coming from the proceedings. The also cover some updates on Elizabeth Holmes and the removal of an Astroworld Documentary after just 1 day of widespread outrage. Be sure to follow @notanothertruecrime to stay up to date on all the ongoing updates!
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12/2/2021 • 25 minutes, 52 seconds
The Thanksgiving Butcher
Sara and Danny are back with a seasonal crime this week, covering how Omaima Nelson murdered and carved her husband during Thanksgiving 1991. The cover the situation in the marriage a leading up to the event, and what Omaima alleged was the inciting incident for the murder. They also go through the aftermath and all the details of the trail, which turned out to be stranger than fiction. To end the show, they play a game called ‘In Poor Taste’, where they try to discern fact from fiction in tasteless acts done by celebrities throughout the years.
RESOURCES:
https://abcnews.go.com/US/omaima-nelson-california-woman-convicted-grisly-murder-husband/story?id=14675780
https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2011/10/05/model-who-killed-cooked-and-ate-husband-denied-parole/
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/model-24-killed-castrated-cooked-24953545
https://www.oxygen.com/martinis-murder/martinis-murder/former-model-deep-fried-her-husbands-head-and-allegedly-said-his
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11/29/2021 • 54 minutes, 22 seconds
The Byron David Smith Killings
Sara and Danny cover the chilling case of the Byron David Smith killings, which took place in Thanksgiving 2012 in Little Falls, Minnesota. They talk all about the situation before the killings, and how Smith conducted the killings in the basement of his house. They also breakdown the trial afterward, which centered around "the castle doctrine," and whether Smith acted in self-defense. To end the episode, they play "Not Another Thankful Thanksgiving," where they celebrate Thanksgiving this year by going through the things they are NOT thankful for this year!
RESOURCES:
https://minnlawyer.com/2012/12/07/in-morrison-county-shooting-case-minnesota-state-law-on-trial/
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trial-set-to-begins-for-minnesota-man-who-shot-teens-in-his-home/
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/hear-graphic-audio-catches-moment-byron-smith-guns-teens-article-1.1776145
https://web.archive.org/web/20141026211139/http://bigstory.ap.org/article/little-falls-mourns-teen-cousin-shooting-victims
https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2021/03/22/byron-smith-serving-life-for-murdering-teens-in-little-falls-denied-appeal-from-scotus/
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11/22/2021 • 45 minutes, 57 seconds
The Other Suitcase Killer
Sara and Danny are back to cover another suitcase killer (!) they discovered while researching last week's episode: Melanie McGuire. They kick things off with some background on Melanie and how she met her husband Bill, and how it all unraveled when he mysteriously vanished. They also cover the investigation and the eventual trial along with some updates that have happened since. To end the show, they play 'Double Down!', where they are tested on their knowledge of casinos and gambling to see who has the most potential to become a high-stakes gambler!
SOURCES:
To Have And To Kill: Nurse Melanie McGuire, an Illicit Affair, and the Gruesome Murder of her Husband by John Glatt
https://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/21/fashion/sundaystyles/murder-stirs-surrogacy-network.html
https://abcnews.go.com/US/suitcase-killer-melanie-mcguire-defends-innocence-inside-prison/story?id=73099717
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11/15/2021 • 1 hour, 13 seconds
The Suitcase Killer
This week, Sara and Danny cover Heather Mack, aka The Suitcase Killer. They breakdown the tumultuous relationship she and her mother had for years leading up to the event, and how it all unfolded while on vacation in Bali. They also cover the aftermath, including the trail, and some recent updates on her imprisonment. To end the show, they play ‘The Perfect Fit’ where they try to compare a series of categories o find which one is the better fit!
SOURCES
https://nypost.com/2021/11/02/suitcase-killer-heather-mack-heads-back-to-us-on-early-release/
https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2015/04/21/heather-mack-tommy-schaefer-convicted-of-killing-sheila-von-wiese-mack-in-bali/
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/american-tommy-schaefer-jailed-bali-slaying-sheila-von-wiese-mack-n345301
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-heather-mack-youtube-video-0206-20170204-story.html
https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2021/11/03/heather-mack-arrested-conspiracy-obstruction-of-justice-murder-sheila-von-wiese-mack-bali-indonesia-tommy-schaefer/
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/22/bali-suitcase-murder-troubled-family-life-chicago
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11/8/2021 • 49 minutes, 5 seconds
BREAKING UPDATES: Brian Laundrie, Elizabeth Holmes, Tiger King 2, and Robert Durst
Sara and Danny are back with another bonus episode with some wild updates on a few cases! They cover the latest updates regarding Brian Laundrie’s disappearance and debunk some conspiracy theories, news from the Elizabeth Holmes Trial, the Tiger King 2 trailer, and Robert Durst’s sentencing. Don’t forget to follow us @notanothertruecrime for ongoing updates!
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11/4/2021 • 30 minutes, 58 seconds
The Great Wine Fraud Of Rudy Kurniawan
Sara and Danny are back to talk all about a fraudster that rocked the world of fine wine for years: Rudy Kurniawan. They break down just how he managed to infiltrate the world of ridiculously expensive wines without being detected and all the methods he employed to elude capture and make millions of dollars in the process. To end the show, they play a game of "My Way or The Sideways," where they are faced with a choice of either answering some obscure trivia questions about wine or trying their luck with wine-related pop culture trivia.
SOURCES:
Sour Grapes Documentary
https://apnews.com/article/sour-grapes-wine-fraud-rudy-kurniawan-deported-indonesia-440498ff72a055cedf606b56ecbbd052
https://www.theguardian.com/global/2016/sep/11/the-great-wine-fraud-a-vintage-swindle
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11/1/2021 • 54 minutes, 42 seconds
The Dexter Killer
Sara and Danny are back to discuss the infamous crimes of Mark Twitchell and how he became known as The Dexter Killer. They breakdown how he conducted his murders and ultimately how it all led to his capture. They also get into the his trial, and how the proceedings went down. To end the show, they play 'Bust A Move!,' where they try to identify various fictional serial killers from their iconic moves.
SOURCES:
https://medium.com/dark-aberrations/the-murder-of-johnny-altinger-3dcc0a6883f8
https://edmontonjournal.com/news/bio-mark-andrew-twitchell
https://web.archive.org/web/20160531043958/https://edmontonjournal.com/entertainment/Johnny+Brian+Altinger/4450724/story.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20160202004921/https://edmontonsun.com/news/2011/03/22/17719841.html
https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/mark-twitchell-a-closer-look-at-the-evidence/11/
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/twitchell-found-guilty-of-1st-degree-murder-1.998969
https://www.ctvnews.ca/blood-everywhere-court-hears-as-twitchell-trial-begins-1.621221
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10/25/2021 • 1 hour, 13 seconds
The Cult Of Gwen Shamblin
Sara and Danny are back to talk all about Gwen Shamblin and her Weigh Down program, which spread all over the US as a weight loss alternative in the 90's. Then, they breakdown how she turned her TV talk show fame into a religious cult with influence all over the US with some disturbing practices.. To end the episode, they play ‘Big Hair Don’t Care’ where they try to identify a series of celebrities with iconic hairstyles from across the years!
SOURCES:
https://www.distractify.com/p/scott-amedure-trial-by-media
https://www.ajc.com/news/national/killer-jenny-jones-gay-crush-murder-released-from-prison/CMKsybhg5nhHzggybvHdNO/
https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/tv/a32416884/jonathan-schmitz-scott-amedure-murder-trial-by-media-true-story-jenny-jones-show/
https://www.americanbar.org/groups/crsj/publications/member-features/gay-trans-panic-defense/
https://www.lambdalegal.org/blog/20140929_ending-the-panic
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10/18/2021 • 1 hour, 1 minute, 6 seconds
The Murder of Scott Amadure
Sara and Danny are back to talk all about the murder of Scott Amadure after his appearance on The Jenny Jones Show. They start with some background on the show and the type of segments that they used to do before breakdown the events that led to Scott’s death and the case that followed it. They end the episode with ‘Do You Know Me At All?!,’ where they put their friendship to the test to see just how well they know each other!
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10/11/2021 • 47 minutes
Finding Lauren Spierer Ft. Kyra Breslin
Sara and Danny are joined this week by Kyra Breslin to talk all about ‘Finding Lauren,’ her true-crime documentary podcast series that looks at the ongoing investigation of missing Indiana University student, Lauren Spierer. They talk all about the case as we mark the 10th anniversary of her disappearance, and Kyra breakdown all the elements that she focused on for the podcast and what we can expect for the rest of the series. Be sure to listen to ‘Finding Lauren’ now wherever you get your podcasts!
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10/4/2021 • 36 minutes, 14 seconds
Gabby Petito & Other Cases You Should Know About
Sara and Danny are back to cover the case that everyone seems to be talking about, the disappearance of Gabby Petito. They breakdown everything we know about the timeline and all the recent updates, before moving on to cover a few other cases in the area that haven’t received as much attention, but need to be talked about.
PETITION:
https://www.change.org/p/buckeye-arizona-police-department-justice-for-daniel-robinson
SOURCES:
https://nypost.com/2021/09/13/nyc-woman-gabby-petito-missing-after-cross-country-trip-with-boyfriend/
https://news.yahoo.com/710-indigenous-people-mostly-girls-042150990.html
https://wysac.uwyo.edu/wysac/reports/View/7713
https://nypost.com/2021/09/14/gabby-petitos-boyfriend-issues-statement-over-her-disappearance/
https://www.thecut.com/2021/09/disappearance-of-gabby-petito-what-we-know.html
https://www.sltrib.com/news/2021/09/08/women-killed-moab-told/
https://www.insideedition.com/officials-say-no-link-between-petitos-disappearance-and-newlyweds-who-were-fatally-shot-in-unsolved
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/kylen-schulte-moab-murders-laundrie-b1923564.html
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/stephaniemcneal/gabby-petito-murder-investigation-internet-viral
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/gabby-petitos-death-caused-national-141831744.html
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mary-johnson-missing-indigenous-woman-fbi-10000-dollars/
https://www.12news.com/article/news/local/valley/where-is-daniel-robinson-three-months-after-the-24-year-old-geologist-disappeared-in-buckeye-the-case-is-now-gaining-national-attention/75-dc128b34-1996-40ef-85d8-b4d452426da4
https://ovc.ojp.gov/sites/g/files/xyckuh226/files/ncvrw2018/info_flyers/fact_sheets/2018NCVRW_VictimsWithDisabilities_508_QC.pdf
https://people.com/crime/brian-laundrie-allegedly-aggressive-restaurant-staff-report/
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9/27/2021 • 44 minutes, 56 seconds
Dennis Nilsen aka The Kindly Killer
Danny and Sara are back to talk about a seriously disturbing crime spree by one of Britain’s most notorious serial killers, Dennis Nilsen. They talk about Nilsen’s killings, his gruesome tendencies, and how he was eventually caught. To end the episode on a more positive note, they play a game called ’It’s Getting Scot In Here!’, where they attempt to answer a series of trivia questions about Nilsen’s country of birth: Scotland.
CW: This episode contains some graphic descriptions
SOURCES:
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-50152862
https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/18714724.dennis-nilsen-eight-chilling-facts-scottish-serial-killer/
https://www.biography.com/crime-figure/dennis-nilsen
Netflix Documentary
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9/20/2021 • 48 minutes, 7 seconds
BREAKING UPDATES: Alex Murdaugh, Elizabeth Holmes, and Maura Murray
Sara and Danny are back yet again with another special emergency with some wild updates on a few cases! They cover the latest in the Murdaugh murders, including some crucial updates in Alex’s shooting; some bizarre details of the ongoing case against Elizabeth Holmes; and a potential new discovery of evidence near where Maura Murray went missing. Don’t forget to follow us @notanothertruecrime for ongoing updates!
SOURCES:
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/14/us/alex-murdaugh-shooting-arrest.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/06/us/alex-murdaugh-murders-law-firm.html
https://www.npr.org/2021/09/14/1036835868/elizabeth-holmes-trial-hotelier-bill-evans-goes-incognito
https://boston.cbslocal.com/2021/09/14/maura-murray-missing-woman-new-hampshire-state-police-bone-fragments-loon-mountain/
https://www.yahoo.com/news/death-murdaugh-housekeeper-fell-home-212700951.html
https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/16/us/murdaugh-shooting-arrest-thursday/index.html
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9/16/2021 • 29 minutes, 6 seconds
The Disappearance Of Tara Grinstead Ft. Payne Lindsey
Danny and Sara are back this week with a guest that needs no introduction, Payne Lindsey! They kick things off with a breakdown of Payne’s first case he ever worked on, the disappearance of Tara Grinstead, and how he went from a true-crime fan to launching multiple massively popular podcasts by himself. They also get into the state of true crime at the moment, and how the whole landscape has evolved throughout the years. Be sure to check out season 3 of Up and Vanished, coming out on September 1st!
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8/30/2021 • 39 minutes, 49 seconds
BREAKING UPDATES: Scott Peterson And Crystal Rogers
Sara and Danny are back for a special emergency episode with some new updates on two ongoing cases! First they dive into some new information regarding Scott Peterson’s appeal before breaking down updates in the Crystal Rogers case and what they could mean in regards to her disappearance. Follow us @notanothertruecrime to stay up to date as new information comes out!
SOURCES:
https://abc11.com/scott-peterson-laci-abc-2020-one-last-chance/10632626/
https://www.ksby.com/news/california-news/juror-in-scott-peterson-trial-didnt-disclose-being-a-victim
https://www.kron4.com/news/california/scott-peterson-trial/scott-peterson-trial-attorneys-defend-rogue-juror-accused-of-lying/
https://www.today.com/news/scott-peterson-s-sister-law-says-new-evidence-proves-he-t229042
https://people.com/crime/scott-petersons-sister-in-law-claims-new-evidence-proves-hes-innocent-of-killing-his-pregnant-wife/
https://www.wlky.com/article/day-2-fbi-bardstown-subdivision-search-crystal-rogers-case/37394829
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8/26/2021 • 22 minutes, 45 seconds
The Murdaugh Murders
In this week’s episode, Sara and Danny are back to talk all about a powerful family that has been involved in a number of cases throughout the years: the Murdaugh’s from South Carolina. They start off with a little background on the family and its main members before diving into the various cases surrounding them, focusing on a double homicide and a fatal boating incident a few years ago. After that, they get into some recent updates on the boating incident, which is making its way through the courts this year. To end the show, they play a game called The Sur-Name Game, where they attempt to name notable families just from hearing the first names of a few of its members.
Sources:
https://people.com/crime/murdaugh-murders-south-carolina-inside-powerful-family/
https://www.augustachronicle.com/story/news/local/hampton-county-guardian/2021/06/24/throwback-thursday-randolph-murdaughs-hampton-county/7778931002/
https://nypost.com/2021/06/19/inside-the-toxic-murdaugh-family-of-south-carolina/
https://www.thestate.com/news/local/crime/article227456544.html
https://people.com/crime/murdaugh-family-murders-were-killing-mom-son-connected-three-previous-deaths/
https://www.briceherndonfuneralhome.com/obituary/Gloria-Satterfield
https://nypost.com/2021/06/17/sc-mom-son-were-sent-threats-before-murders-family-reveals/
https://www.fitsnews.com/2020/10/20/sc-fatal-boat-crash-lawsuit-murdaughs-refuse-to-settle-withhold-financial-records-from-victims-family/
https://www.augustachronicle.com/story/news/local/hampton-county-guardian/2021/07/22/murdaugh-killings-911-call-recordings-sled-hampton-county-colleton/8066104002/
https://www.augustachronicle.com/story/news/local/hampton-county-guardian/2021/08/09/murdaugh-boat-crash-charges-dropped-recently-killed-son-paul/5538233001/
https://www.insideedition.com/1-month-on-since-paul-murdaugh-and-maggie-murdaugh-were-murdered-still-no-suspects-as-investigation
https://www.crimeonline.com/2021/08/07/hear-it-rot-in-hell-mallory-beachs-boyfriend-screams-at-paul-murdaugh-after-fatal-boat-crash/
https://www.fitsnews.com/2021/08/04/his-ass-will-be-responsible-dashcam-video-from-murdaugh-boat-crash-released/
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8/23/2021 • 56 minutes, 19 seconds
The Murder of Maurizio Gucci
Sara and Danny are back to breakdown a case that has it all, the murder of Maurizio Gucci in 1995. They start off with a little background about the fashion house and how Maurizio managed to end up as its head amidst the family fighting for control. Then, they dive into all the details of his murder, and how popular opinion immediately turned towards Patrizia Reggiani, Maurizio’s ex-wife with whom he had just gone through a long and contentious divorce. Finally, they walk us through the long investigation that finally uncovered the truth behind Maurizio’s death. To end the episode they play a game of The Devil and The Zoo, where they try to guess what quotes belong to which of two iconic fashion movies: The Devil wears Prada and, of course, Zoolander!
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8/16/2021 • 50 minutes, 29 seconds
The Wood Chipper Murder
Sara and Danny are back to discuss the murder of Helle Crafts, a flight attendant who went missing in 1986. They discuss the circumstances of her disappearance and how all roads led to her husband, as we’ve seen countless of times before. They also get into the investigation of her murder and the unlikeliest of heroes that led to the eventual capture of the killer: private investigator Keith Mayo, who refused to let the case go cold. To end the episode, the play Making Mr. Mayo Merry, where they put their own lateral thinking to the test in a series of riddles to find out who would make the best private investigator!
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8/9/2021 • 56 minutes, 57 seconds
The Disappearance of Rebecca Coriam
Sara and Danny are back to breakdown a mysterious vanishing at sea: the disappearance of Rebecca Coriam. They start off with some background on her life and how she ended up working at the Disney Wonder Cruise, and what we know about her time aboard the ship. Then, they get into the night of her disappearance, and discuss all the theories about her fate. Was her vanishing merely an accident, or was it a criminal act? To end the show, they play “Yeah, Buoy!”, testing their knowledge of various nautical terms to see how prepared they would be in an emergency at sea.
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8/2/2021 • 47 minutes, 10 seconds
The Waco Siege And The Branch Davidians
Sara and Danny are back to breakdown one of the longest police standoffs in history: The Waco Siege. They start with the origins of the Branch Davidians and its eventual leader David Koresh, who was at the top of the cult at the time of the siege. They also go through the cult’s beliefs and what life at the compound was like, before getting into some of the darker detail’s of Koresh’s abuse of his followers. The end the show, they play Caught in The Vor-Texas!, where they take a trivia journey through the 6 flags that have flown above Texas throughout its history.
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7/26/2021 • 59 minutes, 6 seconds
Mary Kay
This week, Sara and Danny are back to cover an OG MLM with an iconic color: Mary Kay. They start off with the story of its founding by Mary Kay Ash, and then get into all the shady business practices that the company upholds to this day. They also breakdown what we know about their income statements, and just how small of a percentage of its sales force actually makes any money. After that, they discuss the legal challenges Mary Kay has had along the way and how they have impacted the business. They end the show with a game called ‘Pink The Right Choice!,’ where they try to answer a series of questions that all have to do with Mary Kay’s signature color: pink.
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7/19/2021 • 58 minutes, 14 seconds
Wait… Am I In A Cult? Ft. Amanda Montell
This week, Sara and Danny host writer, language scholar, and podcast host Amanda Montell, for a fascinating conversation about about cults and what makes them so effective at garnering our attention. They cover cult-ish groups and organizations from Scientology to SoulCycle and everything in between. They also discuss some ways to approach people who might be engaging in cults to a worrying degree, and why telling them that they’re in a cult might be counter-productive. Be sure to check out Amanda’s book ‘Cultish: The Language of Fanaticism,’ and check out her podcast ‘Sounds Like A Cult’ wherever you get your podcasts!
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7/12/2021 • 50 minutes, 43 seconds
Victim F Ft. Denise Huskins & Aaron Quinn
On this episode, Sara and Danny are back to discuss a case that generates as much curiosity as outrage, the kidnapping of Denise Huskins and Aaron Quinn from their own home in the early hours of the morning. They breakdown how the situation progressed and why both the media and police authorities wrongfully thought that it was all a hoax, and how the situation was finally resolved in spite of law enforcement’s disastrous response. Then, Danny and Sara are joined by Denise Huskins and Aaron Quinn themselves, who have recently published ‘Victim F: From Crime Victims To Suspects To Survivors,’ telling their own story from their perspective. They talk about their experience in writing the book together and then get into some of incredible details of their story, including their difficulties with the police and the bizarre way the media reacted to the case. They also get into the current state of law enforcement in America, and what impact they hope the book can have on our future.
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7/5/2021 • 47 minutes, 26 seconds
The Family Cult
This week, Sara and Danny are back to talk all and about The Family, an Australian doomsday cult founded by Anne Hamilton-Byrne. They breakdown everything from the cult’s beginnings in yoga studios for well-to do people to the spiritual hodgepodge that made up the cult’s belief system. They also get into the dark aspects of how they operated, and Anne’s ‘adoptions’ of dozens of children that she believed would be the beginning of a master race to rule the world. To end the show, Sara and Danny make their very own cults in ‘Build A Cult!.’ Make sure to follow us @notanothertruecrime to vote for your favorite!
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6/28/2021 • 48 minutes, 46 seconds
The Yogurt Shop Murders
This week, Sara and Danny are back to cover an unsolved cases with more questions that answers: the 1991 Yogurt Shop Murders in Austin. They cover all the circumstances that lead to the crime as well as the evidence that was recovered, and a few possible reasons why the crime has remained unsolved for so long. Plus, they breakdown everything we know from the investigations that have followed it and even the false confessions that have stymied significant progress on the case. To end the show, the play Eat It Up!, here they try to answer a series of food related questions to see who is the ultimate food connoisseur.
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6/21/2021 • 55 minutes, 27 seconds
The Murder Of April Kauffman
This week, Sara and Danny are back to breakdown a murder plot with some fascinating twists and turns. April Kauffman was found dead in 2012, and the lengthy investigation that followed her murder was centered around her husband, Dr. James Kauffman. Along the way, the authorities uncovered a number of suspicious reports about Dr. Kauffman’s, including multiple allegations of fraud from his medical practices, along with some shady connections to the Pagans Biker’s Gang. Sara and Danny breakdown the whole saga from beginning to end and discuss all the twists and turns. To end the episode, the play a game called “Angels and Pagans,” where they test their knowledge on the Pagan’s Club and the Hell’s Angels to see who is the true biker at heart.
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6/14/2021 • 59 minutes, 59 seconds
Real Housewives of Fraud City
We are back this week, and although Danny is away in Mexico, Sara welcomes in Betches pop culture expert Dylan Hafer to breakdown a few stories of fraud from the Real Housewives universe. They start off with Jen Shah’s recent arrest, discussing all the particulars of her telemarketing scheme, her indictment, and what awaits her. Then, they get into the embezzling allegations against Erika Jayne and Tom Girardi. To end they show, they play a fun round of Housewives Trivia, where they first have to guess who said various iconic quotes and then approximate what their net worth is. Be sure to check out Pop Alarm to get your daily 5-minute pop culture fix wherever you get your podcasts!
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6/7/2021 • 59 minutes, 52 seconds
The Son Of Sam
This week, Sara and Danny tackle one of the most infamous criminals in NYC history: David Berkowitz aka The Son of Sam. They cover Berkowitz’ childhood and military record all the way to his eventual capture. They also dive into the alleged motive behind his criminal spree, which bizarrely centered around the demonic possession of German Shepherds. Next, they give us their thoughts on the recent Netflix documentary’, The Sons of Sam: A Descent Into Darkness,’ and breakdown some of the theories it suggests. Finally, they listen to the music of the time, testing their knowledge of iconic songs released in 1976, the year of the Son of Sam murders.
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5/31/2021 • 1 hour, 4 minutes, 37 seconds
Amy Carlson And The Love Has Won Cult
Sara and Danny are back to talk all about a very strange group: The Love Has Won cult. They focus on their leader Amy Carlson and the bizarre set of beliefs that guided the cult, breaking down their scams, structure, and connections to other modern cult-like groups. They also discuss the recent death of their leader and the bizarre scene that her corpse was discovered in, which was decorated with glitter and Christmas tree lights. They end the show by playing “Sleigh What?,” where they put their knowledge of various Christmas topics to the test and compete to be the ultimate Christmas fanatic.
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5/24/2021 • 56 minutes, 45 seconds
Sister Amy’s Murder Factory
This week, Sara and Danny bring us a vintage crime spree from the turn of the 20th century: Amy Duggan Archer-Gilligan’s poisoning of dozens of tenants at her boarding house. They start off by breaking down some interesting details about Amy’s early years and then dive in to her murders, which all took place over the course of 10 years. They also cover how she was allowed to operate for so long before being caught, and discuss her eventual capture and trial. They end the show with a round of living arrangements Would You Rather?, where they carefully consider where they would rather live given a few difficult choices.
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5/17/2021 • 48 minutes, 38 seconds
The Vanishing Of Crystal Rogers
Sara and Danny are back this week to bring us all the details about the disappearance of Crystal Rogers from a small town in Kentucky. They go through her last sightings and all the particulars of the case, including the discovery of her car and the puzzling delay in her being reported missing. Next, they turn to the likeliest suspect in this case, and what they police investigations so far have revealed. They also go into a few recent updates on the case, and what we can expect to find out in the coming months. They end the show with a video game audio round, where they try to name classic video games from years gone by just by their sounds.
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5/10/2021 • 49 minutes, 4 seconds
The Black Dahlia Murder
Sara and Danny are back this week to tackle one of the most famous unsolved cases in history: the Black Dahlia Murder. They start off with some details about Elizebeth Short’s life as an aspiring actress and then get into the specifics of the grisly murder. They also breakdown the slapdash investigation that followed which yielded hundreds of suspects but made no substantial progress for years. Then they run through the list of most prominent suspects and a few recent updates that might be finally uncovering the truth behind the murder. To round out the show, they play a game called ‘A Cut Above The Rest!,’ where they test their knowledge of anatomy and the human body.
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5/3/2021 • 56 minutes, 41 seconds
The Disappearance of Kristin Smart
Sara and Dany are back with a crime with some very recent developments: the disappearance of Kristin Smart. They start off by giving some context on the events that led to her disappearance in 1996. They also go into the maddening police response at the time, and give a few reasons as to why this crime has remained unsolved for so long. Then, they break down all the recent developments that have led to the arrest of a prime subject, and what steps the investigators took to finally get them there. They end the show with a game paying tribute to all the good dogs out there called “Unleash Your Pup-tential!” where they put their knowledge of famous dogs around the world to the test. Be sure to follow us at our NEW handle on IG @notanothertruecrime to stay tuned with this case as we continue to get more information!
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4/26/2021 • 52 minutes, 25 seconds
The Yellow Deli Cult
On this episode, Sara and Danny go into the Yellow Deli Cult, who operate a string of infamous delis around the world that have generated more than a fair share of controversy for their fundamentalist religious background. They go into the cult’s long list of problematic beliefs and objectionable practices, which include child abuse, racism, sexism, and forced free labor. They also breakdown accounts from former cult followers, and delve deeper into the origins of the cult and where their beliefs came from. To finish it off, they end the episode with a game of ‘Who’s Cult Is It Anyways?’, during which they try to figure out the names of various notable cult leaders through yes or no questions.
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4/19/2021 • 58 minutes, 53 seconds
Operation Varsity Blues: The College Admission Scandal
This week, Sara and Danny are back with a breakdown of the college admissions scandal that landed Lori Loughlin and Felicity Huffman in prison (for like, 2 minutes). They start off with some background on the ringleader of the scheme, Rick Singer, and how he ended up making millions from sneaking in rich kids to elite colleges. Then they go into how the whole scheme was discovered and ultimately busted, and the all the fallout from the federal investigation that followed. They also discuss the recent Netflix documentary, Operation Varsity Blues, and whether it was a hit or a miss. To end the episode, they play a game of Easy Fake, where they try to guess which absurdly named college courses are real and which are fake.
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4/12/2021 • 57 minutes, 17 seconds
Scammers Are Taking Over The Internet Ft. Gabrielle Bluestone
Sara and Danny are back with a fascinating conversation with journalist Gabrielle Bluestone about her new book “HYPE: How Scammers, Grifters, and Con Artists Are Taking Over the Internet―and Why We're Following.” They go all into how social media has ushered in a new type of scams and grifts into our lives and what implications influencers can have on our world at large. They also discuss Gabrielle’s involvement in the FYRE documentary and how that experience informed the book and what it shows us about where we are heading. You can follow her on Twitter @g_bluestone and her book is out April 6th!
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4/5/2021 • 42 minutes, 43 seconds
Kevin Trudeau: The Infomercial King
Sara and Danny are back to cover a fraudster for the ages: Kevin Trudeau and his seemingly unending list of schemes and scams. They go over Trudeau’s journey from beginning to end, including his participation in MLMs, dubious self-help books, and so called miraculous health products, all the while being actively pursed by the FTC for his numerous crimes and infractions. Then, they play a game of “As Seen on NATCP!” where they try to name infamous infomercial products from years gone by.
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3/29/2021 • 53 minutes, 14 seconds
Welcome To Your Fantasy: The Chippendales Story Ft. Natalia Petrzela
This week, Danny hosts the fabulous historian Natalia Petrzela to talk all about her new podcast Welcome To Your Fantasy, which explores the fascinating story behind the ‘80s male exotic dance show Chippendales. Natalia walks us through the historical context that set the scene for the show, and how its emergence walked hand in hand with the feminist sexual liberation movement of the time. She also goes into the turbulent relationship between the founders, and how it escalated to its fatal conclusion. They end the episode with a game of “Chippendales Shazam!” during which the take turns trying to name a few songs from the original Chippendales show. Find the podcast on Spotify, and follow @nataliapetrzela and @chippendalesrevealed on Instagram!
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3/22/2021 • 50 minutes, 43 seconds
Natalie Wood’s Mysterious Death
Sara and Danny are back to discuss a captivating Hollywood case, the mysterious death of celebrity actress Natalie Wood. They start off with an overview of Natalie’s career and personal life before the incident, and then breakdown the events on the night of her death. They go through all the people present on the night and dig in to the inconsistencies in the story that have emerged in the years since. The end the episode with a quiz titled ‘And the Oscar Goes to… Jail!’, where they put their knowledge of celebrity crimes to the test.
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3/8/2021 • 57 minutes, 15 seconds
The Vienna Strangler and The Cecil Hotel
Sara and Danny are back to discuss an international serial killer whose life seems stranger than fiction: The Vienna Strangler. They cover the whole timeline of Jack Unterweger’s crimes, starting from the first murder that landed him in prison for life, his premature release, and his crime spree in the United States. Then they go into the recent Netflix documentary ‘Hotel Cecil’ and whether its was a worthwhile portrayal of this infamous hotel and the many incidents that took place there. They end the episode with a segment called ‘Don’t Be A-Freud!’, where they take a look at their subconscious minds to get to uncover what it reveals about themselves.
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3/1/2021 • 1 hour, 4 minutes, 21 seconds
Inside The Mind Of A Killer With Troy Roberts
This week, Sara and Danny have a fascinating conversation with accomplished, Emmy-award winning journalist Troy Roberts. Troy shares a few stories from his long career covering crime, and they dig into what patterns seem to emerge from all the crimes he’s covered. Then they give a sneak preview to a case that Troy covers on his show Killer Motive, about the murder of a Navy officer by the people we considered closest. To round it all out, they play ‘Arrr you knowledgeable?’, a game that puts their pirate knowledge to the test!
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2/22/2021 • 52 minutes
The Jason Collier Story Explained
Sara and Danny are back for a surprise bonus episode all about the now infamous Stinnett Chief of Police, Jason Collier. They go over all the particulars of the story, including his simultaneous engagements to several women, his appalling choice of gifts for his multiple financés, and his eventual arrest. We’ll be back on Monday for our usual episode!
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2/18/2021 • 23 minutes, 28 seconds
The Long Island Serial Killer
This week, Sara and Danny dive into the details of a disturbing open case: The Long Island Serial Killer. They go an overview of the crime spree and the numerous victims that have been found throughout the years, highlighting the patterns that seem to have emerged in the killer’s M.O. They also go into a few possible reasons for why the case remains unsolved and offer their thoughts on a few notable suspects. Then, they switch gears to give an update of a recent court ruling regarding one of the most infamous MLMs, LuLaRoe. They end the show by putting their knowledge to the test with a game of The Long Game, where they try to guess numbers related to several crime related records throughout history.
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2/15/2021 • 1 hour, 4 seconds
The Night Stalker
Sara and Danny are back to discuss one of the most notorious criminals from the Golden State: The Night Stalker. They unpack Richard Ramirez’s childhood and discuss how his experiences played a role in his path towards murder. Then, they delve into an overview of his crimes and the bizarre court case that followed his arrest. They also talk about the recent Netflix documentary, Night Stalker, and whether the criticism it has received is fair. They end the show with a game of California Quizin’!, testing their knowledge on several other notable California serial killers.
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2/8/2021 • 57 minutes, 33 seconds
The Murder of Missy Bevers
Sara and Danny discuss one of the most requested open cases by our listeners: the murder of fitness instructor Missy Bevers in 2016. They go into the circumstances of the murder and why this remains unsolved despite video footage of the prime suspect. They also delve into their theories of who the culprit is, and decide who they would focus on if the case was up to them. To round it all out, the end the show with a game of Crime and Punishment, where they come up with creative punishments for minor annoyances that should be considered crimes.
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2/1/2021 • 47 minutes, 34 seconds
The Herbalife Scheme
Sara and Danny dive into this one of the biggest and most infamous Multi-Level Marketing companies, Herbalife. They talk about what led Mark R. Hughes to found this company, and delve into their questionable and possibly fraudulent business practices. The also cover the documentary Betting on Zero, which follows hedge fund manager Bill Ackman’s crusade to expose the company and to profit off of its demise. Then they end the show with a fun game of ‘What The Sell?!,’ where they test their knowledge on other notable MLM’s.
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1/25/2021 • 50 minutes, 12 seconds
Who Killed JonBenét?!
We are back with a surprise episode to cover ABC’s The List: Who Killed JonBenét? 20/20. We start with some overall thoughts and expectations, and then delve into the meat of the documentary. Does it offer substantial new evidence, or is it just a rehash of the same old information? Also, we discuss whether the documentary had any impact on our opinions on the case and if it changed our theories.
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1/19/2021 • 38 minutes, 56 seconds
The Hilaria Baldwin Grift
Sara and Danny are back in the new year to talk about the biggest news story of the last few days of 2020: the mystery of Hilaria Baldwin’s identity. They go through the weird way this whole thing started and Hilaria’s changing stories, plus Alec’s perplexing video.
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1/11/2021 • 40 minutes, 21 seconds
D.B. Cooper Pt. 2
In part 2 of the D.B. Cooper breakdown, Danny and Sara discuss even more suspects of the infamous highjacking. Who do they think it is?
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1/4/2021 • 44 minutes, 30 seconds
D.B. Cooper Pt. 1
It’s a bird! It’s a plane! It’s.. a potentially average business man jumping out of a plane he hijacked? To end 2020, we are tackling one of the biggest Whodunnits in history: none other than D.B. Cooper. But before we get into the theories and beyond, Danny and Sara also talk about a US student who was jailed for breaking international quarantine rules, an influencer turned murderer, and obviously... the Journalist and the Pharma Bro. Vom.
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12/28/2020 • 42 minutes, 5 seconds
The Sodder Family Fire Pt. 2
In Part 2 of this special Christmas case, Sara and Danny dive into the moment you’ve all been waiting for, the mysterious fire. They discuss theories on how the fire started in the first place, and whether or not the Sodder children actually died in the fire.
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12/21/2020 • 35 minutes
Wait What? The Undoing
Sara and Danny return for a very special “Wait What” bonus episode to break down HBO’s “The Undoing ”. They discuss Nicole Kidman’s choice in husbands (both on screen and off), the blindspots in the show’s storytelling and why Sara wasn’t surprised at how the season ended.
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12/17/2020 • 26 minutes, 15 seconds
The Sodder Family Fire Pt. 1
On Christmas in 1945, the Sodder Family home went up in flames. 4 out of the 9 children escaped, but the other 5 were never seen again. While some think they perished in the fire, parents George and Jennie were convinced the children were still alive. Some strange details seem to confirm the fire was caused by foul play. Danny & Sara go through the events and theories of what happened to the Sodder children. Plus, updates on the Alonzo Brooks case, Fort Hood, and Amanda Knox.
Sources
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-children-who-went-up-in-smoke-172429802/
https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/true-stories/what-happened-to-the-five-sodder-children/news-story/861777f8c048b45241d42dd9fc4d5ee0
https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5067563
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12/14/2020 • 36 minutes, 3 seconds
Wait..What? Murder On Middle Beach
On this special “Wait....What?” bonus episode Sara and Danny discuss the HBO documentary sensation “Murder on Middle Beach”. They discuss their reactions to the show’s theories, who they think did it, which family member is the sketchiest, and their thoughts on where the case will go from here.
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12/10/2020 • 26 minutes, 29 seconds
The Death of Jeannette Depalma
This week Sara and Danny take you back to NJ, the land of Taylor ham and full service gas stations, to investigate the mysterious death of Jeanette Depalma. They discuss the weird Christian movement that Jeannette became a part of before her death, the reasons the case remains unsolved after all these years, and the satanic cult that’s rumored to have killed her.
https://www.mycentraljersey.com/story/news/crime/jersey-mayhem/cold-cases/2019/08/23/nj-cold-case-jeannette-depalma-springfield-1972-watchung-reservation/1889140001/
https://weirdnj.com/stories/mystery-history/jeannette-depalma/
https://www.mycentraljersey.com/story/news/crime/jersey-mayhem/cold-cases/2019/08/23/nj-cold-case-jeannette-depalma-springfield-1972-watchung-reservation/1889140001/
https://www.mycentraljersey.com/story/news/local/courts/2019/09/09/nj-unsolved-murder-judge-denies-dna-test-jeannette-depalmas-clothes/2265134001/
https://theconversation.com/jesus-people-a-movement-born-from-the-summer-of-love-82421
https://nypost.com/2017/10/03/new-clues-point-to-a-coven-of-witches-involved-in-teens-1972-murder/
https://www.nj.com/union/2019/08/teens-unsolved-death-in-the-1970s-was-blamed-on-satanists-a-man-who-never-knew-her-is-the-cases-biggest-advocate.html
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12/7/2020 • 48 minutes, 58 seconds
Who Killed Maria Marta? feat. Kate Casey
On this very special bonus episode, Sara and Danny are joined by host of the “Reality Life” podcast, Kate Casey. They discuss the new Netflix doc “Carmel: Who Killed Maria Marta?” including the possibility of a cover up, the Argentinian drug cartel’s involvement and who they think actually killed Maria Marta.
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12/3/2020 • 19 minutes, 48 seconds
The Fake Saudi Prince Pt. 2
In the conclusion of this two part saga of the scam life of fake Saudi prince Anthony Gignac, Sara and Danny continue the timeline that follows one of the most prolific con artists in modern American history to its completion. From running up actual royalty tabs at Neiman Marcus to an attempted fake sale of the famed Fountain Bleu hotel in Miami, find out which con was the one that finally got our prince thrown in the slammer.
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Sources
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/06/how-fake-saudi-prince-anthony-gignac-conned-investors-out-of-millions.html
https://www.epa.gov/newsreleases/us-epa-acts-protect-public-unregistered-virus-shut-out-product-imported-honolulu-and
https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2018/10/he-actually-believes-he-is-khalid-the-odyssey-of-a-counterfeit-saudi-prince
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/11/12/secret-sister-gift-exchange-scam-better-business-bureau-warns/6265662002/
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/secret-sisters-gift-exchange/
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11/30/2020 • 35 minutes, 44 seconds
The Fake Saudi Prince Pt. 1
This week Sara and Danny dive into part one of an investigation on possibly the greatest scammer the world has ever seen, Anthony Gignac, the fake Saudi Prince. The begin by exposing 2 scams making their way around the internet right now: the secret Santa gift exchange and bacterial antivirus lanyards. Then they recount Gignac's scams which include everything from impersonating fake middle eastern royalty, to running up credit cards with $200 million limits, find out how many incredible scams this con man was able to pull off.
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11/23/2020 • 40 minutes, 28 seconds
Presidential Pyramid Schemes Pt. 2 Amway
In the finale of this 2 part American Government MLM deep dive, Sara and Danny break down Amway. How did this carefully constructed great American scam was operate for as long as it did? Ask Betsy DeVos.
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11/19/2020 • 27 minutes, 49 seconds
Presidential Pyramid Schemes Pt. 1 Trump Network & ACN
In part 1 of this 2-parter, Sara and Danny discuss updates to the Britney conservatorship. Then they get into the topic of the episode: the pyramid schemes in the White House. They talk about our soon-to-be-ex POTUS and the multilevel marketing schemes he earned millions from: Trump Network and ACN.
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11/16/2020 • 44 minutes, 10 seconds
NYC’s Black Widow
Danny and Sara talk election stress (tbt), read a listener submitted ghost story, and discuss Carl Lentz’s recent firing from Hillsong Church. Then they get into the story of Barbara Kogan, aka NYC’s Black Widow, who served 12 years in prison for commissioning her husband’s murder.
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11/9/2020 • 50 minutes, 38 seconds
The Murder of Judith Barsi
This week Sara and Danny break down the murder of child film star, Judith Barsi. They discuss her abusive relationship with her father, her family’s decision to move into a “haunted house” and the Quibi show that brought the case back into the public conscience. They also read some listener stories about getting ghosted in honor of Halloween.
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11/2/2020 • 45 minutes, 37 seconds
Do You Know Who My Dad Is? Episode 8: The Trumps & The Kushners
Not Another True Crime presents the eighth and final installment of the limited series exposing the connections you never knew existed: Do You Know Who My Dad Is? explores dynastic nepotism and the effects it has on media, culture, and our current political system. Hosts Bryan Russell Smith and Alicia Angeles are talking all about the privilege that leads inexperienced and unaccomplished children of powerful people to get ahead.
This week, we’ve finally arrived at the crown jewel of American nepotism: the Trump family (and by extension the Kushners). First, Alicia tells us where Donald Trump’s son-in-law got his start (under his father’s watch), and covers the various scandals and convictions the Kushner family has under its belt. Next, Bryan tries to explain how Donald Trump’s father helped create one of the most inept (and destructive) presidents in history, and tells us how his children carry on the family tradition of raking in money and opportunity despite their lack of any discernible merit. Finally, they close the show with a game of “Daddy Sent Me” all about famous figures who benefited from being legacy admissions to a prestigious university.
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10/30/2020 • 59 minutes, 14 seconds
The Mysterious Death of Chandra Levy Ft. Patrick Hinds
This week Sara and Danny are joined by host of the “True Crime Obsessed” podcast, Patrick Hinds. They discuss the mysterious death of Chandra Levy, whether or not Scott Pederson is actually innocent and of course, what to do when you’ve been single in quarantine for 7 months.
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10/26/2020 • 43 minutes, 50 seconds
Do You Know Who My Dad Is? Episode 7: The McCains & The Romneys
Not Another True Crime presents the seventh installment of the 8-episode limited series exposing the connections you never knew existed: Do You Know Who My Dad Is? explores dynastic nepotism and the effects it has on media, culture, and our current political system. Hosts Bryan Russell Smith and Alicia Angeles are talking all about the privilege that leads inexperienced and unaccomplished children of powerful people to get ahead.
This week, we’re talking all about the families responsible for producing two recent Republican presidential nominees, the McCains and the Romneys. First, Bryan tells us about the rise of John McCain, from his family’s military roots to his election to the Senate, and finally his ascendence to power and eventual campaign against Barack Obama in 2008. Next, Alicia explains the origins of Mitt Romney’s dynastic family, including his father’s time as Governor of Michigan, the source of their enormous wealth, and how he became a presidential nominee. Finally, they close things out with a game of “Do You Know Who Said It?” featuring real quotes from both John and Mitt.
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10/22/2020 • 57 minutes, 31 seconds
What Does It Take To Be A Kid Detective? Ft. Adam Brody
This week Sara and Danny are joined by a real life Hollywood Movie Star, the one and only, Adam Brody. Adam discusses his new “The Kid Detective”, the likelihood of a virtual “OC” reunion, and the unsolved mysteries that he thinks about most.
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10/19/2020 • 31 minutes, 21 seconds
Do You Know Who My Dad Is? Episode 6: The Walmart Family & The Koch Brothers
Not Another True Crime presents the sixth installment of the 8-episode limited series exposing the connections you never knew existed: Do You Know Who My Dad Is? explores dynastic nepotism and the effects it has on media, culture, and our current political system. Hosts Bryan Russell Smith and Alicia Angeles are talking all about the privilege that leads inexperienced and unaccomplished children of powerful people to get ahead.
This week, we’re talking all about two of the richest families in human history, the Waltons and the Kochs. First up, Alicia tells us how Sam Walton and his Walmart empire led his children and their descendants to become the wealthiest family in the world. Next, Bryan tells us all about the infamous Koch brothers and how their family fortune enabled them to become one of the most powerful influencers of political policy on the planet. Finally, they close the show with a game of Walton family trivia called “Retail or Tall Tale” featuring a few facts that just may surprise you.
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10/16/2020 • 56 minutes, 53 seconds
The Watts Family Murders
This week Sara and Danny investigate one of Colorado’s most tragic and high profile true crime cases, the Watts Family murders. They discuss the case as well as the new Netflix documentary, "American Murder: The Family Next Door"
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10/12/2020 • 54 minutes, 35 seconds
Do You Know Who My Dad Is? Episode 5: Fox News & The New York Times
Not Another True Crime presents the fifth installment of the 8-episode limited series exposing the connections you never knew existed: Do You Know Who My Dad Is? explores dynastic nepotism and the effects it has on media, culture, and our current political system. Hosts Bryan Russell Smith and Alicia Angeles are talking all about the privilege that leads inexperienced and unaccomplished children of powerful people to get ahead.
On this week’s episode, we’re talking all about the families behind two of the biggest media empires in the world, Fox News (the Murdochs) and The New York Times (the Ochs Sulzbergers). First, Bryan walks us through the history of the Murdochs, starting with patriarch Rupert Murdoch’s rise to wealth and power. Plus, he outline the many scandals the family has endured and how Rupert’s children stand to inherit his vast empire. Next, Alicia outlines the lineage of the Ochs Sulzbergers and how the role of publisher has been passed from one (white male) family member to another for over a century. Finally, they finish this week’s episode with a game called “Get With the Times” all about some of the most interesting facts about these two media families.
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10/9/2020 • 56 minutes, 9 seconds
WTF Is Happening At Fort Hood? Ft. Nancy Grace
This week Sara and Danny are joined by the one and only true crime legend herself, Nancy Grace. They discuss Nancy’s theories on a cover up at Fort Hood, the gruesome details of the murder of Vanessa Guillen and all the unsolved cases on Nancy’s radar.
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10/5/2020 • 39 minutes, 37 seconds
Do You Know Who My Dad Is? Episode 4: The Kennedy Family
Not Another True Crime presents the fourth installment of the 8-episode limited series exposing the connections you never knew existed: Do You Know Who My Dad Is? explores dynastic nepotism and the effects it has on media, culture, and our current political system. Hosts Bryan Russell Smith and Alicia Angeles are talking all about the privilege that leads inexperienced and unaccomplished children of powerful people to get ahead.
On this week’s episode, Alicia guides us through the lineage of another one of the most powerful dynasties in American history, the Kennedy family. First, they discuss the rise of JFK’s father Joseph P. Kennedy Sr. and how he groomed his sons for a life in politics. Next, they discuss the success of the Kennedy sons, including JFK’s time as president, and cover the many scandals the family endured. Finally, they close things out with a game of “Kennedy or It Can’t Be” all about some of the most surprising Kennedy family trivia.
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10/2/2020 • 1 hour, 3 minutes, 58 seconds
Belle Gibson, Australian Wellness Scammer
This week Sara and Danny dive deep into a great Australian scam, the story of Brisbane influencer, Belle Gibson. They discuss Belle’s tumultuous upbringing, her attempted fake brain tumor miracle cure scam, and her disputed claims that she’s been taken in by Australian- Ethopian community.
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Sources
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/jun/20/cancer-con-artist-belle-gibson-cries-while-in-court-over-unpaid-410000-fine
https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/lifestyle/health-and-wellness/what-we-haven-t-learned-from-belle-gibson-20200126-p53utm.html
https://www.nowtolove.com.au/news/real-life/aussie-entrepreneur-belle-gibsons-cancer-claims-in-doubt-31259
https://www.newidea.com.au/belle-gibson-17-things-you-didnt-know-about-belle
https://www.nowtolove.com.au/celebrity/celeb-news/belle-gibson-teaser-9310
https://www.who.com.au/belle-gibson-now-cancer-the-truth-14-things-you-didnt-know
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https://www.refinery29.com/en-gb/belle-gibson-cancer
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-28/disgraced-wellness-blogger-belle-gibson-fined/8995500
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-22/belle-gibson-raided-over-500k-in-unpaid-fines/11890094
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/belle-gibson-is-finally-made-to-pay-authorities-seize-the-notorious-cancer-fakers-assets-to-force-her-to-re-pay-the-dollar500000-in-fines-she-owes-for-her-fraudulent-whole-pantry-app/ar-BBZchXG
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-23/belle-gibson-says-she-has-been-adopted-by-ethiopian-community/11895252
https://au.news.yahoo.com/african-community-rejects-disgraced-cancer-faker-belle-gibson-031412093.html
https://time.com/4320605/belle-gibson-fake-brain-cancer-blogger/
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-32420070
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9/28/2020 • 48 minutes, 41 seconds
Do You Know Who My Dad Is? Episode 3: The Bush Family
Not Another True Crime presents the third installment of the 8-episode limited series exposing the connections you never knew existed: Do You Know Who My Dad Is? explores dynastic nepotism and the effects it has on media, culture, and our current political system. Hosts Bryan Russell Smith and Alicia Angeles are talking all about the privilege that leads inexperienced and unaccomplished children of powerful people to get ahead.
On this week’s episode, Bryan leads us through the family history of one of the most powerful dynasties in American history, the Bush family. First, they talk about the origins of the family’s wealth and power. Next, they discuss the many scandals and highlights of President George H.W. Bush’s political career. Plus, they talk about how nepotism led George W. Bush to walk in his father’s footsteps (and copy his playbook along the way). Finally, they close things out with a game of “Bush or Bull” featuring a collection of surprising facts about the Bush family.
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9/25/2020 • 47 minutes
Conspiracy Theories For Dummies Ft. Kat Dunn
This week Sara and Danny are joined by “Big Brother” alum, podcast host and armchair conspiracy theorist, Kat Dunn. They discuss the conspiracy rabbit holes that Kat’s fallen into during quarantine, new details emerging in the #FreeBritney conservatorship and the most scandalous tea from this season of “Big Brother”.
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9/21/2020 • 48 minutes, 27 seconds
Do You Know Who My Dad Is? Episode 2: Hollywood
NATCP presents the second installment of this 8-episode limited series exposing the connections you never knew existed: Do You Know Who My Dad Is? explores dynastic nepotism and the effects it has on media, culture, and our current political system. Hosts Bryan Russell Smith and Alicia Angeles are talking all about the privilege that leads inexperienced and unaccomplished children of powerful people to get ahead.
On this week’s episode, our hosts are talking about two of the most storied families in Hollywood history. First, Alicia examines the Barrymore family, from their roots as acting royalty in the late 19th century all the way to Drew Barrymore’s rise to stardom. Next, Bryan talks about the Disney family and how the descendants of Walt and Roy Disney continue to reap the benefits of their labor to this day. Finally, they close things out with another round of Do You Know Who My Dad Played, all about actors whose famous lineage might surprise you.
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9/18/2020 • 1 hour, 31 seconds
Gospel Singer To Politician To Accused Murderer: The Flordelis Story
By popular demand, Sara and Danny cover a ripped-from-the-headlines case that seems made up. But it’s not! Flordelis, a gospel singer-turned-politician, is accused of murdering her husband, with the help of about 10 of her 55 kids. Not a typo. You can’t make this shit up.
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9/14/2020 • 42 minutes, 22 seconds
Do You Know Who My Dad Is? Episode 1: Influencers
NATCP presents an 8-episode limited series exposing the connections you never knew existed: Do You Know Who My Dad Is? explores dynastic nepotism and the effects it has on media, culture, and our current political system. Hosts Bryan Russell Smith and Alicia Angeles are talking all about the privilege that leads inexperienced and unaccomplished children of powerful people to get ahead.
On this week’s episode, our hosts are talking about influencers. First, Bryan examines the rise of Cara Delevingne as a model, actress and influencer, sharing just how far back in history her powerful family can be traced. Next, Alicia talks about the ascension of the Hadid sisters, and how their wealthy and influential parents helped them get where they are today. Finally, they close things out with a game of Do You Know Who My Dad Played, all about actors whose parents gave them a leg up.
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9/12/2020 • 53 minutes, 4 seconds
What Does It Take To Write A Murder Mystery (or 20)?
Sara, Casey and Danny are back and they made a friend, best selling author, Karin Slaughter! They discuss, the differences between writing a stand alone novel and a series, why being told that "writing like a man" is an insult and what the world can expect from her new book "The Silent Wife". Karin also breaks down the common misconceptions about the American prison system.
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9/3/2020 • 38 minutes, 48 seconds
NATCP The Musical
This week Sara, Casey and Danny bring you a breakdown of some of the wildest music based conspiracy theories. We’re talking Avril Lavigne dying and being replaced by a body double named Melissa, Lady Gaga murdering an up-and-coming artist named Lina Morgana, and whether or not Paul McCartney has been dead since 1967.
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8/31/2020 • 1 hour, 1 minute, 18 seconds
Stolen Sarah Lawrence Kids Pt. 2
In part two of this chaotic deep dive, Casey, Danny, & Sara wind down the tale of the Sarah Lawrence cult and the fate of Larry Ray. They also give their insight on Tom Cruise's alleged scheme to draft Suri into Scientology after her 18th birthday.
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8/20/2020 • 27 minutes, 21 seconds
Stolen Sarah Lawrence Kids
In part one of this two part deep dive, Casey, Danny, & Sara discuss the shocking article in The Cut about Larry Ray and his influence on a group of Sarah Lawrence students
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8/17/2020 • 45 minutes, 9 seconds
NATCP Gets Paranormal Ft. Christine Schiefer and Em Schulz
This week Sara, Danny and Casey are joined by Christine Schiefer and Em Schulz of the “And That’s Why We Drink” podcast. They discuss what it takes to become a paranormal investigator, why fans of true crime would love the paranormal , and what wines are a perfect pair with your favorite ghost stories.
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8/10/2020 • 44 minutes, 13 seconds
How Do You Overturn A Conviction? Ft. Ron Kuby
This week Sara, Casey and Danny are joined by Criminal Defense and Civil Rights lawyer, Ron Kuby. They discuss the American justice system and why it’s so flawed, just how practical the idea of defunding the NYPD is, and what it takes to get a wrongfully convicted man out of prison.
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8/3/2020 • 58 minutes, 9 seconds
Unsolved Mysteries: The Death of Alonzo Brooks
We start off the episode by talking about the murder of Fahim Saleh, a tech CEO who was found killed in his Lower East Side apartment. We give brief updates on the #FreeBritney situation. Then we unpack one of the so-called "mysteries" from Netflix's Unsolved Mysteries, the death of Alonzo Brooks.
Sources
https://www.insider.com/fahim-saleh-assistant-used-credit-card-after-ceos-death-report-2020-7
https://nypost.com/2020/07/19/dismembered-tech-ceos-assistant-pleads-not-guilty-to-horrid-murder/
Netflix unsolved mysteries, episode 4
https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/netflixs-next-unsolved-mysteries-updates-ghosts-1234703225/
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/22/us/alonzo-brooks-exhumed-unsolved-mysteries-trnd/index.html
https://gardnernews.com/100000-reward-for-information-on-brooks-death/
https://www.nytimes.com/1993/11/20/nyregion/syracuse-medical-examiner-agrees-to-quit-after-inquiry.html
https://www2.ljworld.com/news/public-safety/2018/dec/23/former-douglas-county-coroner-relocates-again/
https://www.syracuse.com/news/2012/07/convicted_of_murdering_a_nurse.html
https://www.syracuse.com/news/2019/07/estate-of-hector-rivas-who-died-awaiting-murder-retrial-sues-da-medical-examiner.html
https://www.ksnt.com/news/local-news/fbi-u-s-attorney-announce-100000-reward-in-cold-case-of-alonzo-brooks/
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7/27/2020 • 58 minutes, 24 seconds
Should We Free Britney or Leave Britney Alone? The Conservatorship Explained
This week Sara, Casey and Danny dive into one of the great celeb conspiracy theories of our time, the Britney Spears Conservatorship. The NATCP crew break down the players behind the scenes, the details behind what a conservatorship actually entails and and whether or not we really need to free Britney. Also we got the court date wrong, it’s July 22. Sorry!
Sources:
https://www.today.com/popculture/free-britney-2020-what-know-about-movement-spears-conservatorship-t186642
https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/britney-spears-dad-admits-relationship-has-always-been-strained/
https://www.businessinsider.com/inside-britney-spears-conservatorship-freebritney-movement-2020-2
https://www.ochealthinfo.com/bhs/mhi/id#:~:text=5150%20is%20the%20number%20of,or%20herself%2C%20or%20gravely%20disabled.
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-09-17/britney-spears-conservatorship-free-britney
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucky_(Britney_Spears_song)#Background_and_composition
https://www.mercurynews.com/2008/02/01/court-places-britney-spears-under-temporary-conservatorship-of-her-father/
http://www.mtv.com/news/1580917/britney-spears-lawyer-ejected-from-courtroom-after-judge-doesnt-recognize-him-as-her-counsel/
http://www.mtv.com/news/1583093/britney-spears-gets-an-allowance-asks-to-reduce-kevin-federlines-legal-bills/
https://www.welt.de/english-news/article2643137/Spears-conservatorship-extended-indefinitely.html
https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/britney-to-stay-under-her-dads-control-322902
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1081507/Britney-Spears-father-granted-permanent-control-financial-affairs.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/17/arts/music/britney-spears-conservatorship-mental-health.html
https://www.etonline.com/britney-spears-conservatorship-is-extended-until-august-145870
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-09-17/britney-spears-conservatorship-free-britney
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7/20/2020 • 1 hour, 8 minutes, 1 second
The Wedding Scammer
Casey, Danny, and Sara break down a true (alleged) scammer, Jesse James Francis Clark, who would (allegedly) scam brides... allegedly.
Sources:
https://medium.com/@JesseJohnFrancisClark/you-are-nothing-attorney-nicholas-frye-nothing-a43e5a893c85
https://www.jessejohnfrancisclark.com/
https://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/local/couples-claim-photographer/1904072/
https://medium.com/@JesseJohnFrancisClark/use-your-haters-as-fuel-for-success-c8e67d7d9947
https://www.telegram.com/news/20200602/lawyer-begs-mass-attorney-general-for-criminal-case-against-wedding-videographer
https://turtleboysports.com/meet-charltons-jesse-john-francis-clark-career-scam-artist-photographer-who-mocked-grieving-client-on-what-wouldve-been-wedding-date-after-refusing-to-refund-money-when-fiance-died-makes-up-suic/
https://je3814.wixsite.com/ninjamonkeyweddings/single-post/2016/09/15/Jesse-Clark--The-videographer-every-bride-should-know-about
https://www.telegram.com/article/20130426/NEWS/104269782
http://archive.boston.com/business/personalfinance/consumeralert/2013/06/wedding_video_company_owner_or.html
https://jessejclarkvictims.wordpress.com/
https://www.telegram.com/article/20130426/NEWS/104269782
http://archive.boston.com/business/personalfinance/consumeralert/2013/06/wedding_video_company_owner_or.html
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7/6/2020 • 1 hour, 3 minutes, 54 seconds
Baby You're A Firework, Come On Tell Us What You're Doing Here
We start off the episode by discussing the disappearance of Vanessa Guillen, who went missing from Fort Hood in April. Then we talk about the mysterious fireworks that have been (literally) popping off across the country, and delve into some theories about what it all means.
Sources:
https://www.thecut.com/2020/06/why-are-so-many-fireworks-going-off.html
https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2020/6/22/21298912/firework-complaints-northeastern-cities
https://twitter.com/AnneMarcelleN/status/1274540444253388800
https://nypost.com/2020/06/17/fdny-firefighters-light-off-illegal-fireworks-in-brooklyn/
https://www.vox.com/the-highlight/2019/8/8/20747198/philadelphia-bombing-1985-move
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/10/move-1985-bombing-reconciliation-philadelphia
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/may/10/when-i-was-mayor-philadelphia-bombed-civilians-its-time-for-the-city-to-apologise
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/n-c-police-chief-apologizes-after-video-shows-officers-destroying-n1225716
https://abc7ny.com/july-4-4th-of-macys-new-york-city/6261681/
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/pallets-of-bricks-protest-sites/
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/puzzling-number-men-tied-ferguson-protests-have-died-n984261
https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2020/06/23/mayor-de-blasio-forms-illegal-fireworks-task-force-to-go-after-suppliers-in-huge-sting-operation/
https://www.insider.com/vanessa-guillen-fort-hood-disappearance-army-suspects-foul-play-2020-6
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6/29/2020 • 1 hour, 11 seconds
Don't Lose Your Money: Instagram Scams To Avoid
The theme this week is “don’t just throw your money at organizations without doing a little due diligence”. We talk one probable scam and one case of mixed up identity. First it’s Plant A Tree Co, a big IG page that claims to plant a tree for every product purchased on their site... but do they really? Then we talk about a confusingly named foundation that fooled companies like Google, Apple, and Microsoft into donating millions for the wrong cause
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6/22/2020 • 48 minutes, 5 seconds
What Is Missing White Woman Syndrome?
This week, we go in a slightly different direction by unpacking the concept of Missing White Woman syndrome and highlighting three separate cases (of many) that illustrate this disparity. Then the NATC crew provides some much-requested updates to 2 cases we've previously discussed: Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell (the missing Idaho kids) and Madeleine McCann.
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6/15/2020 • 59 minutes, 2 seconds
A Message From Not Another True Crime Podcast
Not Another True Crime Podcast will not be releasing an episode this week.
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6/8/2020 • 1 minute, 2 seconds
Betty Broderick’s Guide to Divorce
Special note: We record our episodes on a delay, meaning we're at least 1 week behind in current events. That said, we went back to the future this week to discuss Betty Broderick, the inspiration behind the new season of Dirty John, called Dirty John: Betty. First of all, we touch on how dumb of a title that is. But then we get into the details of what caused Betty Broderick to snap and kill her ex-husband and his new wife. We also discuss our Queen, Hilary Duff, getting dragged into the Q Anon conspiracy, and attempt to make sense of it all.
Sources:
https://www.latimes.com/la-me-broderick3jun0390-story.htmlhttps://www.thedailybeast.com/hilary-duff-debunks-qanon-esque-rumor-she-tried-to-sell-her-own-son-luca-cruz-comrie
https://www.tvinsider.com/928642/betty-broderick-dirty-john-season-two-crime-story/
https://www.distractify.com/p/betty-broderick-children-today
https://www.latimes.com/la-broderick-sg-storygallery.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20150209235944/http://www.crimelibrary.com/notorious_murders/family/broderick/1.html
http://murderpedia.org/female.B/b/broderick-betty.htm
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6/1/2020 • 1 hour, 6 minutes, 26 seconds
D. Gary Young
NATCP tackles the life and crimes of D. Gary Young, the founder of Young Living Essential Oils. Even before starting what is now a giant MLM company, Young was no stranger to sketchiness. We break down his upbringing and run-ins with the law, then go into the ins and outs of Young Living essential oils.
Sources:
State v. Young , 37 Wn. App. 1061 (Wash. App. June 6, 1984)
https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1314&dat=19821017&id=rvlLAAAAIBAJ&sjid=2e4DAAAAIBAJ&pg=3079%2C675647&hl=en
https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1314&dat=19830309&id=6dkvAAAAIBAJ&sjid=qe4DAAAAIBAJ&pg=1520,3981858
https://skepticalinquirer.org/exclusive/d-_gary-young-19492018-diploma-mill-naturopath-and-promoter-of-essential-oi/
https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1314&dat=19830310&id=6tkvAAAAIBAJ&sjid=qe4DAAAAIBAJ&pg=7124,4646687&hl=en
https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1345&dat=19861028&id=gDFkAAAAIBAJ&sjid=yfkDAAAAIBAJ&pg=1732,2469702&hl=en
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1987-10-23-mn-10747-story.html
https://www.dgaryyoung.com/blog/2015/rosarito-beach-years-10/
https://quackwatch.org/cases/ag/ut/tarwater/conclusions/
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/10/09/how-essential-oils-became-the-cure-for-our-age-of-anxiety
https://web.archive.org/web/20171017122054/http:/www.dgaryyoung.com:80/d-gary-young-about.php
https://quackwatch.org/consumer-education/nonrecorg/bernadean/
http://bernadeanuniversity.tripod.com/
https://www.youngliving.com/en_US/opportunity/income-disclosure
https://www.doterra.com/US/en/judge-awards-doterra-legal-fees
https://www.youngliving.com/blog/what-is-young-living-therapeutic-grade/
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5/25/2020 • 1 hour, 8 minutes, 19 seconds
The Disappearance of Jennifer Kesse & The Luckiest Unsub Alive
Casey, Danny, and Sara bullsh*t about life in quarantine before diving into the mysterious disappearance of Jennifer Kesse. The 24-year-old Orlando woman went missing on her way to work on January 24, 2006, and basically vanished into thin air. We go into the few details there are about Jennifer's disappearance and recent updates, and of course tell you who we think did it.
http://charleyproject.org/case/jennifer-joyce-kesse
https://www.nbcnews.com/dateline/family-refuses-give-search-jennifer-kesse-who-vanished-14-years-n1122296
http://blinkoncrime.com/category/jennifer-kesse/
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5/11/2020 • 1 hour, 6 minutes, 32 seconds
Bad Education, Great Reputation: Frank Tassone & The Roslyn Con
After being inspired by HBO's Bad Education starring Hugh Jackman, Allison Janney, and Ray Romano, Sara, Danny, and Casey decide to delve into what really happened in the Roslyn school district in 2004. From flights to face lifts, superintendent Frank Tassone managed to quietly swindle millions of dollars from taxpayers to fund his lavish lifestyle. We don't hate it! We break down how everyone involved got away with the embezzlement, talk about how Bad Education stacks up against the real story, and discuss where everyone is now. We also read a listener letter from a fan who worked for a scam shampoo company.
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5/4/2020 • 54 minutes, 13 seconds
The Dating Game Killer
Proving once again that the 1970s were a lawless time where you could literally get away with murder, we’re examining the life and crimes of Rodney Alcala aka the Dating Game Killer. Alcala killed scores of women in the late 70s and also appeared on (and won) the Dating Game TV show in the middle of his killing spree. Smh.
Sources
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/dating-game-killer-rodney-alcala-podcast-wondery-trailer-959138/
https://www.oxygen.com/mark-of-a-killer/crime-time/who-is-serial-killer-rodney-alcala-and-how-did-he-win-the-dating-gamehttps://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/flashback-serial-killer-appears-on-the-dating-game-mid-spree-192077/https://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2010/03/long-road-road-to-justice-in-case-of-serial-killer-alcala.htmlhttps://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2010/03/orange-county-jury-recommends-death-for-alcala-for-third-time.htmlhttps://www.history.com/news/serial-killer-dating-game-rodney-alcalahttps://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-crime-serialkiller/dating-game-killer-sentenced-for-1970s-murders-idUSBRE9060S020130107https://people.com/archive/the-eye-of-a-killer-vol-73-no-15/
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4/27/2020 • 50 minutes, 56 seconds
Heaven's Gate
What's black and white and covered in a purple shroud? The members of the Heaven's Gate cult after their ritualized mass suicide, which occurred in 1997 and was the largest mass suicide on U.S. soil. Casey, Danny, and Sara will take you through the cult's beginnings, their out-of-this-world beliefs, and its tragic end for 39 of its members.
https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/heavens-gate-cult-members-found-dead
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Heavens-Gate-religious-group#ref700331
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/heavens-gate-20-years-later-10-things-you-didnt-know-114563/
https://www.salon.com/2014/11/15/anatomy_of_a_mass_suicide_the_dark_twisted_story_behind_a_ufo_death_cult/
https://redditblog.com/2015/10/03/an-interview-with-the-heavens-gate-webmaster-meet-telah-61/
https://www.nytimes.com/1997/03/29/us/from-religious-childhood-to-reins-of-a-ufo-cult.html
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4/20/2020 • 1 hour, 5 minutes, 45 seconds
John List
Westfield, NJ strikes again. The quaint affluent NJ town that brought us The Watcher (in a previous ep) was also home to a grisly murder committed by John List. List brutally murdered his entire family, and then went on the run for almost 18 years. With the help of a good ol' program called America's Most Wanted, he was finally apprehended.
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4/13/2020 • 52 minutes, 55 seconds
Wait What The F*ck Is Going On In Tiger King
It's the docuseries sensation that's sweeping the nation, so of course the NATC fam is here to talk about motherf*cking TIGER KING! Did Joe put out a hit on Carole? Did Carole kill her husband Don and feed him to the tigers? Is Jeff Lowe the shadiest man alive? Who wasn't on meth here? We grapple with all these questions, and a hell of a lot more.
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3/30/2020 • 56 minutes, 32 seconds
The Disappearance Of Amy Lynn Bradley & The Case Against Cruises
In a world pre-COVID-19 social distancing (remember that?), the NATC crew sat down to talk about the disappearance of Amy Lynn Bradley. The then-23-year-old took a cruise with her family to the Caribbean, and after a night of dancing with one of the ship's musicians, disappeared. Sara, Casey, and Danny break down what happened right after Amy disappeared, how the cruise handled it (or, more accurately, didn't), discuss the many sightings that have happened in the years since her disappearance, and share their theories.
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Sources: https://thehueandcry.com/missing/amy-lynn-bradley/
https://www.drphil.com/slideshows/the-search-for-natalee-amy-bradley/
https://mysteriousuniverse.org/2015/09/cruise-into-darkness-the-bizarre-disappearance-of-amy-bradley/
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3/23/2020 • 59 minutes, 26 seconds
The Harvard Professor Scam feat. Harlan Coben
While Casey is out of town, Danny and Sara are joined by a very special guest host: Harlan Coben! The NYT best-selling author of many thrillers including The Stranger, Run Away, and Don't Let Go helps us break down the twisted tale of Bruce Hay, the Harvard professor who got caught in an alleged fake paternity plot with two women. It's a wild ride, trust us. Be sure to watch Coben's new Netflix series, The Stranger, and buy his new book, The Boy From The Woods, out March 17.Sources:
https://www.thecut.com/2019/07/bruce-hay-paternity-trap-maria-pia-shuman-mischa-haider.html
https://www.thecut.com/2019/08/bruce-hay-paternity-trap-maria-pia-shuman-mischa-haider-follow-up.html
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3/16/2020 • 57 minutes, 36 seconds
The Casey Anthony Case Part 2
Sara, Casey & Danny continue coverage of the Casey Anthony case. If you haven't listened to part 1, GO LISTEN NOW! This week, they cover the trial that swept the nation, the verdict, and what we really think happened to Caylee.
Sources:
https://www.cnn.com/2013/11/04/us/casey-anthony-trial-fast-facts/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2012/06/12/justice/florida-casey-anthony/
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-crime-anthony/on-911-call-casey-anthony-said-tot-was-missing-for-31-days-idUSTRE74U5W720110531
https://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/topstories/2008-08-26-3825124179_x.htm
https://web.archive.org/web/20110604005437/http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26558545/
https://abcnews.go.com/US/casey-anthony-completes-probation/story?id=17072180
https://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/04/19/casey.anthony.judge.quits/
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2011634/Casey-Anthony-trial-How-tot-mom-partied-Caylee-went-missing.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20190626023533/https://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/06/30/florida.casey.anthony.trial/
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3/9/2020 • 42 minutes, 23 seconds
The Casey Anthony Case Part 1
Settle in for a very special two-part episode where we tackle the Casey Anthony case that everyone’s been asking us to cover. Ask and you shall receive! This week, we cover Caylee’s disappearance and Casey’s many changing stories. And stay tuned for next week when we talk about the trial, and of course, whodunit.
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3/2/2020 • 51 minutes, 43 seconds
Monat, Mo Problems
This week we’re talking another MLM pyramid scheme, Monat. That’s the shampoo one that’s recently been hit with multiple class action lawsuits for allegedly causing scalp sores, hair loss, and a whole lot of other issues. It ain’t pretty.
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2/24/2020 • 1 hour, 7 minutes, 4 seconds
Fred & Rose West
Brace yourself, NATC fam, because this episode isn't for the faint of heart. We're going across the pond to discuss the crimes of Fred and Rose West, which include child abuse, rape, murder, and that's not even the half of it. Casey, Danny, and Sara talk about Fred's upbringing and early crimes, all the way up to him meeting his second wife Rose and building a literal house of horrors.
Sources:
https://www.biography.com/crime-figure/fred-west
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6998695/fred-rose-west-victims-buried/
https://criminalminds.fandom.com/wiki/Fred_and_Rosemary_West
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1219527/fred-west-news-rose-west-new-year-murderer-revolting-final-request-spt
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2/10/2020 • 55 minutes, 8 seconds
The Lorena Bobbit Episode
We know you're dying of FOMO, so here's everything you missed at the Not Another True Crime Podcast live show at Union Hall. We played "Killer First Date" where we impersonated one podcast subject and made an audience member guess our identities, and shared some audience Super Secret Serial Killer traits. Danny, Casey & Sara also covered the infamous "malicious wounding" case of Lorena and John Bobbitt.
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2/3/2020 • 1 hour, 9 minutes, 19 seconds
The Cons & Killings of Jean-Claude Romand
This week's topic is a deep cut straight out of France: Jean-Claude Romand. This story has everything: a con artist, a pyramid scheme, a spree killer, and arson. Moral of the story: just get a job, it's way easier than lying to your friends & family for 18 years
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1/20/2020 • 1 hour, 5 minutes, 16 seconds
We Don't F*** with Don't F*** With Cats
You all asked for it, none of the hosts wanted it, but we do it for the fans so this week we're tackling Don't F*** With Cats, the Netflix docuseries about Luka Magnotta. First, Danny, Casey and Sara read a letter from one listener who saw something sketchy on the internet and became a one-woman FBI squad. Then they get into the documentary and talk about the most shocking and disturbing parts, what they think of the Facebook Group detectives, and if they think Manny Lopez is real (lol).
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1/13/2020 • 1 hour, 9 minutes, 25 seconds
The Laci Peterson Murder Pt. 2
In part two of the Laci Peterson murder episode, Danny, Casey, and Sara talk about Scott Peterson's trial, all the evidence (or lack thereof) the state had against him, plus all the shenanigans that went down in the media and in jury deliberation. It's the final episode of 2019, so we also spitball what other cases we want to cover in 2020.
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12/30/2019 • 1 hour, 45 seconds
The Laci Peterson Murder Pt. 1
In part one of a two-part episode, the NATC fam is talking about the case that put Nancy Grace on the map: the murder of Laci Peterson. Fittingly, Laci went missing on December 24, 2002 and was found dead in April 2003. This week, we are going over Laci's final moments and talking about Scott's sketchiness. Then stay tuned for next week when we cover the trial and our theories!
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12/23/2019 • 55 minutes, 52 seconds
LuLaNo: A Pyramid Scheme Crumbles
With Casey out sick, Sara and Danny are back to talk pyramid schemes—specifically, LuLaRoe, the infamous leggings multilevel marketing company. Over the last couple years they have faced a class action lawsuit, were kicked out of the National Down Syndrome Society, failed to pay bills (same), and were sued a few more times. Not only do they design visually haunting leggings, but they also steal your money. Sara and Danny give tips on how to avoid getting duped.
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12/16/2019 • 52 minutes, 16 seconds
Kathleen Folbigg
This week, the NATCP team went down under to one of the craziest cases in Australia. Kathleen Folbigg is one of the most notorious serial killers, who is spending over 30 years for killing her four kids. Should be an open and shut case, but is it?
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12/9/2019 • 57 minutes, 26 seconds
Bikram: Predator, Creeper, Scammer Ft. Eva Orner
The NATC team is back with a Wait, What? covering the new Netflix documentary Bikram: Yogi, Guru, Predator. To start they show, they’re joined by NATC producer Sean Kilby to discuss Bikram’s alleged abuses, the popularity of hot yoga, and how this story mirrors other tales of sexual exploitation. Then they’re joined by the director of the documentary herself, Eva Orner, to discuss how the abuses came to light and what’s next in the quest for justice.
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12/2/2019 • 1 hour, 10 minutes, 35 seconds
Pamela Smart
Everybody's favorite podcast hosts are back to talk about another murder: Greggory Smart. In May 1990, he was found dead, and later it came out that his wife, Pamela, conspired with her 15-year-old lover (gross) Billy and his friends to murder her husband. Pre-O.J., pre-Menendez brothers, Pamela Smart's trial was the first trial to be televised gavel to gavel. In other words, it was a big f*cking deal. The only twist? To this day, Pam insists she had nothing to do with the murder plot. We'll go through all the details and discuss if we believe Pamela Smart or think she's full of shit
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11/25/2019 • 1 hour, 7 minutes, 3 seconds
The Mysterious Death of Elisa Lam
NATCP finally covers one of the most demanded mysteries: the death of Elisa Lam. The 21-year-old disappeared while staying at the infamously sketchy Hotel Cecil, and was later found dead in the hotel's water tank. But did she end up there willingly, or was there foul play? That's what Sara, Danny, and Casey attempt to figure out this week.
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11/18/2019 • 1 hour, 1 minute, 36 seconds
Wait, What Is Going On With Jeffrey Epstein, Natalia The Orphan, & More?
We covered these cases, and now it's time for updates! Casey, Danny & Sara discuss Natalia the Ukranian orphan's interview with Dr. Phil, the casting for Netflix's Anna Delvey series, the news surrounding Jeffrey Epstein's suicide (he was murdered), and other true crime updates that are currently in the news. They also play a new game Casey made up called "psychopath or genius".
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11/11/2019 • 59 minutes, 55 seconds
Advocare: Not Your Grandma’s Insurance Company, But Your Grandma’s Pyramid Scheme
It's our first ever pyramid scheme episode! The NATC fam tackles WTF went down with Advocare, a multilevel marketing company that recently got shut down by the FTC for being a pyramid scheme.
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11/4/2019 • 48 minutes, 6 seconds
Samuel Little
Casey is in Paris living her best life this week, so Danny and Sara are talking about Samuel Little, a man who the FBI just declared the most prolific serial killer in US history with 50 confirmed murders. Sara and Danny talk serial killer traits, then provide a bio on Little and discuss his M.O.
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10/28/2019 • 49 minutes, 22 seconds
The Caroline Calloway Interview
Danny, Sara, and Casey interview CAROLINE F*CKING CALLOWAY. They discuss mental health and the right and wrong ways to talk about it. They obviously also talk alllllll about the article Natalie Beach wrote for The Cut. Caroline reveals what everyone got wrong about her so-called "scam" seminars, what Natalie misrepresents in The Cut, and hints at what's in the works for the future for both her and Natalie.
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10/21/2019 • 1 hour, 4 seconds
Alexis Haines Talks The Bling Ring, Recovery, and Nancy Jo Sales
In a literal dream come true, Danny and Sara sit down to interview Alexis Haines, aka Alexis Neiers of the Bling Ring and Pretty Wild fame. She dishes on what ACTUALLY happened during the Bling Ring and what everybody gets wrong, and on her feud with Nancy Jo Sales and if there's ever a chance at reconciliation. Alexis also discusses her own recovery from heroin addiction and talks about what she's doing to help other who are suffering from addiction.
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10/14/2019 • 32 minutes, 25 seconds
The Natalia Grace Story
The story of Natalia Grace is literally a real-life horror movie—specifically, Orphan, which came out in 2009. Kristine and Michael Barnett thought they adopted a 6-year-old from Ukraine in 2010, but things were not what they seemed. The Barnetts claim that their adopted daughter, Natalia Grace, was actually a disturbed 22-year-old who tried to kill them. Sara, Danny, and Casey give the lowdown on this insane story.
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10/7/2019 • 55 minutes, 12 seconds
The Paul Bernardo & Karla Homolka Murders
The NATCP gang is finally covering Canada's most killer couple, Paul Bernardo and Karla Homolka. Warning: this episode is not for the faint of heart (or stomach). Paul and Karla's crimes were especially heinous, to borrow from Law & Order: SVU. If you thought you had a f*cked up relationship... just wait till you hear about this killer couple.
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9/30/2019 • 55 minutes, 40 seconds
Aileen Wuornos
The NATC crew takes on America's "first female serial killer", Aileen Wuornos—and discusses why that characterization is not really accurate. Aileen's life was a roller coaster, and Danny, Casey, and Sara take you through it, from a horrible upbringing to a marriage to a yacht club president to finally murdering 7 men in Florida. Then they play a new game involving their last meals on earth.
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9/23/2019 • 1 hour, 35 seconds
The Caroline Calloway vs. Natalie Beach Drama, Explained
We interrupt our regularly scheduled program of true crime to explain what’s going on with Caroline Calloway, the influencer who was accused of running a scam in early 2019. It all started with an essay in The Cut last week by Caroline’s former friend and ghost writer. Sara, Casey, and Danny explain who Caroline Calloway is and why people care about her, plus give the lowdown of the drama that’s happened over the past week.
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9/16/2019 • 1 hour, 5 minutes, 19 seconds
What Happened to Rebecca Zahau?
It sounds too shady to be true, but somehow it is. Rebecca Zahau, girlfriend of millionaire Jonah Shacknai, was found with her hands and feet bound, naked. Her death was ruled a suicide but many, including her family, don’t think that’s the whole story. Danny Casey And sara go over all the strange circumstances surrounding her tragic death and of course the theories.
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9/2/2019 • 57 minutes, 10 seconds
Is The Westfield Watcher Really Watching?
The NATC crew tackles the mysterious Westfield Watcher, the case where a NJ family moved into their dream home... but that dream quickly turned to a nightmare when they started receiving creepy letters. Not everyone believes The Watcher is real, notably, the Westfield residents think it’s all a hoax. Casey, Danny, and Sara attempt to get to the bottom of it, and also tell stories of their worst roommate/apartment horrors.
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8/26/2019 • 1 hour, 2 minutes, 27 seconds
Denver International Airport Is Really F*cking Weird
Nazis, a secret society, the apocalypse? What do all these things have in common? They are all linked to the Denver International Airport. Sara, Danny, and Casey discuss all the conspiracy theories surrounding the airport, from the suspect shape to the weird-ass art to the mysterious tunnels, and more.
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8/19/2019 • 57 minutes, 51 seconds
The Jonestown Massacre
Sara, Casey, and Danny are back with another cult. This time they’re breaking down one of the worst mass murders in American history, the Jonestown massacre. They will talk through how it began and how everything went south so quickly for the Peoples Temple.
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8/5/2019 • 57 minutes, 51 seconds
Wait, What Was Anna Delvey Really Like? Ft. Rachel DeLoache Williams
Sara, Danny, and Casey sit down with Rachel DeLoache Williams, former Vanity Fair photo editor and author of My Friend Anna, out now. They discuss what Anna Delvey/Sorokin was really like and what Rachel learned from getting scammed by her so-called “friend”. They also discuss how Rachel feels about Anna’s public perception and what’s next for her (think: HBO special).
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7/29/2019 • 50 minutes, 16 seconds
Michelle Carter
Danny, Sara, and Casey finally break down I Love You, Now Die, the new HBO documentary about the death of Conrad Roy III and trial of Michelle Carter. Or as you may know it, the texting suicide case. They discuss what everybody got wrong in the initial press coverage back in 2014, the wildest parts of the documentary (Glee, anybody), and the most recent updates on Michelle's jail time.
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7/22/2019 • 1 hour, 4 seconds
The Disappearance of Susan Cox Powell
The NATC Pod crew tackles one of the most requested cases from the fans: the disappearance of Susan Cox Powell. This case has everything: Mormons, a creepy father-in-law, pancakes, a missing woman, and a horrifying twist. Casey, Danny, and Sara break down the case and share their theories as to what happened to Susan. They also play a new game called “my habit that would get me murdered by a serial killer”.
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7/15/2019 • 59 minutes
Wait, What Does The Jeffrey Epstein Scandal Have To Do With Trump?
In this crossover episode with the Betches Sup podcast, Sara teams up with Sami Fishbein, co-founder of Betches, and Amanda Duberman, Betches News & Politics Editor. They break down the Jeffrey Epstein scandal, from his first arrest to now, and discuss why they think he ran an underage sex pyramid scheme. This one has everything: sex trafficking, a rich guy whose source of wealth is a complete mystery, high-profile figures like Donald Trump and Prince Andrew, and more crazy sh*t you can't even imagine.
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7/13/2019 • 54 minutes, 32 seconds
Was The Moon Landing Faked?
Literally nobody asked for it, but Casey, Danny, and Sara cover the conspiracy theory that the moon landing was faked. They go over the "evidence" that it was all filmed in a Hollywood studio, with expert commentary from a history teacher (Sara's brother) on why the U.S. would even go through the trouble to fake going to the moon in the first place
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7/1/2019 • 51 minutes, 12 seconds
The Honeymoon Murders
Danny, Casey, and Sara start this episode off by trying one of the fans’ super secret serial killer trait, and boy is it a scary one. Then in this three-for-one episode, they tackle 3 different people who died on their honeymoons. Did their new spouses kill them, or were these horrible accidents?
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6/24/2019 • 1 hour, 3 minutes, 31 seconds
NXIVM: Inside the “Self-Help” Sex Cult
The NATC Pod crew covers NXIVM, the alleged sex cult/pyramid scheme started by Keith Raniere, that came to light in 2018 when he and Smallville actress Allison Mack were arrested. Casey, Sara, and Danny tell you how NXIVM started and the crazy, gross things the members had to do. Plus, Casey gives great insight as to how people fall victim to cults in the first place, since she was basically in one.
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6/17/2019 • 55 minutes, 13 seconds
Why Ashton Kutcher Is Involved In A Murder Trial
In this ripped-from-the-headlines episode, Danny, Casey, and Sara explore the Hollywood Ripper, the man currently on trial for allegedly killing three women and attempting to murder another. You've probably heard that Ashton Kutcher is involved somehow, but this case goes way deeper than that.
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6/10/2019 • 48 minutes, 32 seconds
What Happened To Brian Shaffer?
In what sounds like the beginning of a bad joke, Ohio State medical student Brian Shaffer walked into a bar... and was never seen again. While Danny is on vacation, Casey and Sara walk through Brian’s last known moments and the most plausible theories as to what happened to him. They’re also joined by Kevin Gannon, a retired NYPD detective who investigated Brian’s disappearance and believes it may be connected to other cases.
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6/3/2019 • 59 minutes, 58 seconds
Wait, What? Zac Efron's Ted Bundy Movie Was Extremely Mediocre, Shockingly Average & Lame
Happy Memorial Day, NATC listeners! In this special Wait, What? Casey, Danny, and Sara talk about Extremely Wicked, Shockingly Evil & Vile, or otherwise known as "the movie where Zac Efron plays Ted Bundy". They talk about their impressions of the movie and why it ultimately fell flat. They also give background into the gruesome nature of Ted Bundy's crimes, which is more than the movie can say.
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5/27/2019 • 46 minutes, 38 seconds
Jodi Arias
Putting the 'crazy' in 'crazy killer', Jodi Arias murdered her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander in the shower, and took pictures of the entire thing. Casey, Danny, and Sara go through Jodi's life and her and Travis's toxic relationship. They discuss the most shocking details from Jodi's trial, which was a legit media circus, and give some piping hot updates on Jodi, straight from the Arizona prison where she is currently serving a life sentence.
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5/20/2019 • 54 minutes, 2 seconds
The Bling Ring Was Pretty Wild
The Bling Ring has everything any good true crime story from 2009 should have: reality TV stars, movie stars, more reality TV stars, and a bunch of dumb teenagers. We still have so many questions that need to be answered... Who was really the ring leader? Does the movie adaptation do the story justice? How good was Paris Hilton’s cocaine? And where is Alexis Neiers now? Follow along as Sara, Danny, and Casey walk us through all the juicy details from this now-infamous story of burglary and betrayal.
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5/13/2019 • 1 hour, 3 minutes, 22 seconds
Netflix’s “Dead To Me” & Heather Miller
Everybody has that one ride-or-die chick in their life that they’d do just about anything for. But how far are you willing to go before enough is enough? That’s the theme of this week’s episode as we discuss the brand new Netflix Original Series Dead to Me (starring Christina Applegate and Linda Cardellini). Sara, Danny, and Casey react to the first episode with a spoiler-free conversation on what they did (and didn’t) see coming. Then it’s time to dive into the baffling true crime story of Heather Miller, a woman who turned to her friends to help murder her husband, but it turns out those friends weren’t so ride-or-die. Misery just found company, and its name is Heather Miller.
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5/6/2019 • 45 minutes, 22 seconds
Is Madeleine McCann the JonBenét Ramsey Of England?
Due to popular demand, the NATC Pod gang is doing a deep dive into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, a 3-year-old British girl who went missing while on vacation with her family in Portugal. They discuss what happened the night she went missing, the shitshow of an investigation (@ Portugal Police), and share theories of what could have happened to her. They also debunk common misconceptions about this case and debate whether watching the entire Netflix documentary on the topic was worth it.
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4/29/2019 • 1 hour, 16 minutes, 14 seconds
Elizabeth Holmes: The Inventor, The Dropout, The Weirdo
Continuing on the trend of millennial scammers, Sara, Casey, and Danny discuss Elizabeth Holmes, the Silicon Valley scammer who founded Theranos, a blood-testing company that was supposed to revolutionize the healthcare industry. Only... none of it was real. Find out how this blonde with a fake baritone voice convinced tech world giants to invest in a product that didn't exist, and what she's up to now. (Hint: likely jail time.)
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4/22/2019 • 1 hour, 7 minutes, 54 seconds
Anna Delvey, Our Grifter Queen
NATCP is back for Season 2 with a new format and a new trio of co-hosts: Sara Levine, Danny Murphy, and Casey Balsham. For our first episode we’re tackling Soho scammer Anna Delvey, a fake Russian socialite who cheated Manhattan’s elite out of hundreds of thousands of dollars. Honestly, she’s kind of our icon. Starting at 6:23, find out what she did, how she almost got away with it, and how it all came crashing down.
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4/8/2019 • 58 minutes, 20 seconds
Bonus Episode: The Smiley Face Killers Theory, Explained
What's better than a conspiracy theory or a murder? A conspiracy theory combined with a murder! Sara talks to retired NYPD Detectives Kevin Gannon, Anthony Duarte, and Mike Donovan about the Smiley Face Killers, who they believe are an organized gang targeting white college-aged men. Here's the deal. Not everyone is convinced the scores of young men who have drowned over the past 12 years are connected, even though Gannon, Duarte, and Donovan argue that the writing is on the wall—literally. After investigating each case, they claim they've found distinct smiley face graffiti near all the locations where the bodies were found. So what is the truth? Listen to the interview and decide for yourself, then tune in to Smiley Face Killers: The Hunt For Justice on January 19 on Oxygen.
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1/17/2019 • 38 minutes, 16 seconds
Bonus: Why Is Every Murder In California? Ft. Martinis & Murder
This extremely special bonus episode features John Thrasher and Daryn Carp of Oxygen Media's Martinis & Murder podcast! Hannah, Sara, Daryn, and John share their theories on who killed JonBenét Ramsey, discuss which unsolved mysteries keep them up at night (and how they sleep after researching murder for days on end), and the real crimes they have personal connections to. Oh, and this is all while drinking mimosas. It's a fun ride... cheers, betch!
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11/29/2018 • 1 hour, 16 minutes, 26 seconds
Where Is Lauren Spierer?
On June 3, 2011, Indiana University sophomore Lauren Spierer went out partying with her friends until the wee hours of the morning and never came back. Hannah and Sara walk you through Lauren’s life, up to her final hours, and discuss the main theories about WTF happened to her. Eerily, Lauren wasn’t the first, or the last, IU student to go missing in this college town, which begs the question: WTF is going on in in Bloomington??
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11/19/2018 • 1 hour, 26 minutes, 32 seconds
The Twisted Tale Of Dee Dee Blanchard
Is it possible to not feel bad for a murder victim? Hannah and Sara consider that when discussing the murder of Dee Dee Blanchard, a dedicated mother and caretaker to her disabled daughter, Gypsy Rose… Or was she? This case has more twists than an I. Marlene King drama series, and we’re taking you on this wild ride.
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11/19/2018 • 47 minutes, 31 seconds
Bonus Episode: Why Isn't Anyone Talking About Phoenix Coldon?
How does a 23-year-old woman up and disappear in the middle of the day? That's what Sara attempts to get to the bottom of in this interview with Shawndrea Thomas, journalist and co-host of the two-night Oxygen special, The Disappearance Of Phoenix Coldon (November 3 & 4 at 7pm EST on Oxygen). Phoenix disappeared in 2011 after going for a drive one afternoon... and hasn't been seen or heard from since. Sara and Shawndrea talk about why Phoenix's case hasn't gotten much media coverage and what's been happening since the disappearance.
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10/31/2018 • 24 minutes, 47 seconds
Please Don’t Call Us Suppressives: Scientology
Hannah and Sara risk their lives with this episode (okay, not really, but they’re kind of paranoid) when they do a deep dive into Scientology and some of its biggest scandals. And seriously, for a “religion”, they really dabble in the sketch (read: it’s a long episode).
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10/1/2018 • 1 hour, 14 minutes, 50 seconds
Well That Escalated Quickly—The Wild Wild Country Episode
Want to listen to two random girls talk about the Emmy award winning show “Wild Wild Country?” Well you’re in luck. Hannah & Sara talk about this crazy cult that no one really knew about until Netflix and further build your reasoning for avoid salad bars at all costs. Trust us, you’ll understand.
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10/1/2018 • 55 minutes, 31 seconds
Peace, Love, Plastic Surgery, And The Buddhafield Cult
Sara and Hannah FINALLY kick off cult discussions starting with LA-based group called Buddhafield, which is originally pretty tame. Peace, love, all that bullshit. But, after 40 years of living in harmony, things start to get weird. Like, being forced into plastic surgery and performing plays in the middle of the desert weird. Then, things get to be beyond weird and just plain disturbing. Follow along as this group goes from hippy dreams to a legit nightmare.
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10/1/2018 • 57 minutes, 5 seconds
HOT TAKE: Did the Royals Kill off Princess Di?
Princess Diana, “the People’s Princess”, coveted Beanie Baby, and the subject behind the third episode of Not Another True Crime Podcast. All honors, really. In 1997 she passed away in a tragic car accident… or did she? Hannah & Sara discuss common conspiracy theories and whether or not the Royals had anything to do with it.
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10/1/2018 • 1 hour, 5 minutes, 39 seconds
Okay, What Really Happened to Brittany Murphy?
What do beloved late actress Brittany Murphy and a former Customs and Border Patrol agent have in common? Apparently, a decent amount. Hannah and Sara explore one ~interesting~ conspiracy theory that claims that the government may have had something to do with the death of Brittany Murphy. That’s like, way harsh Tai.
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10/1/2018 • 50 minutes, 42 seconds
How Guilty Was Ja Rule In Fyre Festival?
In the newest Betches podcast, hosts Sara Levine and Hannah Perkins talk true crime in the most candid way they can, beginning with a scam that shook millennials to their core—the Fyre Festival. Just when you think musical festivals are safe from crime, you’re wrong. Learn how this sketchy AF event began and how the creator, Billy McFarland, is a high-key, repeat scammer.
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