Two founders share an unedited look at what it's like to bootstrap a startup through weekly updates. Chris Spags is the founder of Jetboost, a suite of no-code plugins for Webflow. Corey Haines is the founder of Swipe Files, a membership site for marketers built with no-code tools. They chronicle their journeys getting to and staying "default alive": profitable, self-sustaining, with infinite runway.
83 | All good things must come to an end
Corey and Chris are bringing the podcast to an end. They discuss why, where things are at today, and what to look out for in the future.Learn more about their businesses:
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4/4/2023 • 31 minutes, 4 seconds
82 | CEO Stuff
Corey shares some learnings on startup taxes. Chris shares how the recent growth of the Jetboost team is going and what he’s learning from that. They also discuss SaaS team account architecture, user onboarding email sequences, churn trends in 2023, and of course, they have to talk about ChatGPT.Ask us a question →Notable mentions:
Andrew from FlowPhantom
Pieter Levels tweet on Google fumbling AI
Derrick’s blog: Ship Small, Ship Fast
MusicLM
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2/7/2023 • 1 hour, 8 minutes, 37 seconds
81 | 2023 Goals
Corey and Chris talk about their goals, themes, and big projects for the new year.Ask us a question →Notable mentions:
SwipeWell Product Hunt launch
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1/18/2023 • 59 minutes, 38 seconds
80 | 2022 Year In Review
Corey and Chris look back on the past year’s highlights, lowlights, and learnings.Ask us a question →Learn more about their businesses:
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1/10/2023 • 58 minutes, 34 seconds
79 | Webflow Conf 2022
Corey is working on co-marketing campaigns for SwipeWell. Chris is back from Webflow Conf and shares everything that happened at the event! They also discuss some of the unique aspects of the Calm Fund SEAL agreement.Ask us a question →Notable mentions:
Webflow Conf Announcements
Webflow Apps
Reilly Chase’s tweet
Tyler Tringas’s tweet
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11/15/2022 • 49 minutes, 4 seconds
78 | AI takeover
Corey recaps the SaaS Marketing Summit and State of SaaS Marketing report. Chris is wrapping up his final prep before Webflow Conf next week. They also talk about AI, newsletter sponsorships, and SwipeWell mobile apps.Ask us a question →Notable mentions:
Webflow Conf Agenda
Corey’s AI generated profile pictures
SaaS Marketing Summit recording
State of SaaS Marketing 2022 Report
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11/4/2022 • 1 hour, 11 minutes, 6 seconds
77 | 10,000 subscribers
Corey hits a big newsletter subscriber milestone. Chris gets back from vacation and officially launches the Jetboost blog. They also talk about playing the waiting game with SEO, Webflow Conf, and SwipeWell’s public roadmap.Ask us a question →Notable mentions:
SwipeWell Public Roadmap
SaaS Marketing Summit on October 12th
Jetboost Blog
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10/4/2022 • 53 minutes, 17 seconds
76 | 2-year anniversary listener Q&A
Corey and Chris answer listener questions live on the podcast to celebrate the 2-year anniversary of publishing. They cover how they spend their time, favorite tools, what success looks like, the highs and lows of the journey, and more.Ask us a question →Notable mentions:
Grain
Mailman
ZipMessage
Manifest Destiny blog post
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9/20/2022 • 1 hour, 25 minutes, 4 seconds
75 | Celebrating wins
Corey integrates a new newsletter growth tool for Swipe Files and ships a new landing page for SwipeWell. Chris is still celebrating recent wins while pondering the future of Jetboost. They also talk about Chrome web store SEO, “Two Way Write Ups,” and product evolution.Next week is a Q&A episode to celebrate the 2-year anniversary of the podcast. AMA!Ask us a question →Notable mentions:
SwipeWell Chrome Store listing
State of SaaS Marketing Survey
Tweet about Jetboost benefits
Two Way Write Ups
Great Bootstrapped Web episode
SparkLoop Partner Network
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9/7/2022 • 56 minutes, 26 seconds
74 | SEO is king
Corey prepares to roll out waitlist invites for SwipeWell. Chris shares what he learned while setting Jetboost up to hire full-time employees instead of contractors. They also discuss Google’s upcoming search update, programmatic SEO, and useful SEO tools.Ask us a question →Notable mentions:
Above Board podcast
Startup to Last podcast
PageFactory
Splitbee
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8/23/2022 • 1 hour, 11 minutes, 21 seconds
73 | Hiring spree
Corey launches a programmatic content experiment on Product Hunt and starts planning the Swipe Files Summit. Chris moved to Chicago and made two new hires! They also talk about a new SaaS project and Webflow Conf.Ask us a question →Notable mentions:
Retext
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8/10/2022 • 56 minutes, 6 seconds
72 | Bought a new domain
Corey builds a mobile app MVP using the no-code tool Adalo. Chris is continuing to push out small UX updates for Jetboost while preparing for his big move across the country. They also talk about new onboarding flows for SwipeWell and Swipe Files.Ask us a question →Notable mentions:
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7/13/2022 • 1 hour, 15 seconds
71 | Achievement unlocked: First MRR
Corey celebrates getting the first SwipeWell customers. Chris ships a helpful update to Jetboost and brainstorms some content ideas. They also discuss product analytics and being a power user of your own app.Ask us a question →Notable mentions:
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6/28/2022 • 1 hour, 2 minutes, 2 seconds
70 | CopywritingPrompts.com
Corey launches CopywritingPrompts.com and experiments with programmatic SEO for SwipeWell. Chris is getting back in the groove, talking to customers, exploring partnerships, and working on new features for Jetboost. They also provide an update on Default Alive Ventures and discuss the opportunity cost of buying a SaaS.Ask us a question →Notable mentions:
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Relume
Rails SaaS Conf
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6/17/2022 • 53 minutes, 37 seconds
69 | Introducing: Default Alive Ventures
Corey works on a new side project as marketing for SwipeWell. Chris ships an important update to handle subscription changes and works on turning content briefs into articles. They also introduce Default Alive Ventures and talk about SaaS acquisition multiples based on ARR vs SDE.Ask us a question →Notable mentions:
Default Alive Ventures
Tweet Hunter Maker Grant
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6/1/2022 • 54 minutes, 19 seconds
68 | Emergency Pod: “I’m sorry, I sold the company.”
Corey and Chris were about to close on a deal to acquire a micro SaaS business together until it suddenly fell apart. Listen in to hear what happened and what they’d do differently next time.Know a SaaS business we might want to acquire? →Notable mentions:
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Boopos
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5/20/2022 • 1 hour, 7 minutes, 51 seconds
67 | $500 MRR
Corey experiments with a $500 MRR Challenge to gain new members. Chris has had to put work on the backburner for a bit while overcoming some challenges at home. They also talk about Elon buying Twitter, NFT launches, and meetups.Ask us a question →Notable mentions:
Milk Road
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5/3/2022 • 53 minutes, 31 seconds
66 | What to build for an MVP
Corey onboards the first SwipeWell users on calls and publishes some new blog posts. Chris is only working half-time right now but managed to ship a key stability update for Jetboost. They also how sleep affects productivity and a new indie hacker podcast, Framework Friends.Ask us a question →Notable mentions:
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4/19/2022 • 48 minutes, 41 seconds
65 | Do founders get parental leave?
Corey builds a waitlist for SwipeWell and shares the outline for Founding Marketing. Chris gives a short update on how paternity leave is going. They also talk about the woes of tax season, meeting online friends in person, and the discipline to focus on what you work on.Ask us a question →Notable mentions:
Founding Marketing Table of Contents
Jetboost Compare Products
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4/5/2022 • 1 hour, 4 minutes, 29 seconds
64 | Corey gets into SaaS
Corey announces a new SaaS project. Chris makes a marketing hire and shares some product updates. They also talk about platform risk, outcome oriented communities, and hiring outside of your area of expertise.Ask us a question →Notable mentions:
Bootstrapping an outcome oriented community
The Elephant in the room: The myth of exponential hypergrowth
Jason Cohen talk: Healthy, Wealthy, and Wise (#2 on the page)
SwipeWell (Corey’s new SaaS project)
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3/8/2022 • 58 minutes, 37 seconds
63 | Don’t poke the bear
Corey is focused on newsletter content and gives an update on the Swipe Files Job Board. Thanks to a situation with a competitor, Chris’ fire has been re-lit. They also talk about competition and celebrating customer wins.Ask us a question →Notable mentions:
Founding Marketing
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2/22/2022 • 45 minutes, 6 seconds
62 | Founding Marketing
Corey explores a new cohort-based course partnership and reveals a book concept. Chris is working on major product improvements for Jetboost and a brand new booster. They also talk about community engagement and pricing dynamics.Ask us a question →Notable mentions:
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2/8/2022 • 48 minutes, 4 seconds
61 | Reaquired!
Corey reacquires Hey Marketers and rebrands it to the Swipe Files Job Board. Chris shares his current struggles with productivity and setting direction for Jetboost. They also talk about burnout, launching on Product Hunt, and Alexis Ohanian’s approach to customer support.Ask us a question →Notable mentions:
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Adam Wathan on burnout
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1/27/2022 • 45 minutes, 49 seconds
60 | 2022: grow the funnel
Corey finishes Marketing Like A Media Company and prepares for launch. Chris is getting ready to roll out the Jetboost affiliate program in January. They also talk about goal-setting, 2022 plans, and recording biweekly moving forward.Ask us a question →Notable mentions:
Corey’s holiday side project: How To Beat Your Friends At Poker
Ruben Gamez tweet on marketing
Sahil Bloom’s thread on goal setting
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1/4/2022 • 50 minutes, 47 seconds
59 | 2021 Year In Review
Corey and Chris chat about the last year — highlights, wins, losses, learnings, and everything in between.Ask us a question →Notable mentions:More podcasts for bootstrappers
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12/29/2021 • 1 hour, 8 minutes, 58 seconds
58 | Vertical vs horizontal SaaS with Brian Casel
Corey and Chris bring on Brian Casel to talk about growing ZipMessage, what he'd do differently today if he was starting from scratch, and recent experiments including freemium.Ask us a question →Notable mentions:
@CasJam on Twitter
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Bootstrapped Web
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12/14/2021 • 1 hour, 25 minutes, 56 seconds
57 | “Code without tests is bad code”
Corey gets another premium sponsor commitment and shares Black Friday results. Chris recaps No-Code Conf and has an epiphany when it comes to testing software. They also discuss code rewrites, throwing away your MVP, and of course, end with Corey's Crypto Corner.Ask us a question →Notable mentions:
Working Effectively With Legacy Code
ConstitutionDAO
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11/30/2021 • 1 hour, 6 minutes, 39 seconds
56 | Competing against free
Corey records the first module for Marketing Like A Media Company and gets airdropped free crypto. Chris contemplates expanding the customer support team. They also talk about the new Calm Fund scout program, Black Friday / Cyber Monday preparation, and free competitors.Ask us a question →Notable mentions:
ENS
Report "@swipefiles" for impersonation to help Corey
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11/16/2021 • 59 minutes, 31 seconds
55 | Someone should create a SaaS marketing course
Corey feels the pressure to create new course content and pitch premium sponsorships before the holidays. Chris launches a new search feature and Webflow template along with it. They also talk about YNAB's pricing update snafu, emailing Seth Godin, and a tweet by Jon Yongfook about SaaS marketing.Ask us a question →Notable mentions:
Jetboost Search Highlighting
New FAQ cloneable
Jetboost's new changelog
Jon Yongfook's tweet
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11/9/2021 • 1 hour, 21 seconds
54 | Goodbye MRR notifications
Corey hosts the first Swipe Files Office Hours session. Chris turns off MRR notifications as he works to make Jetboost more of a calm company. They also talk about "skeuomorphism", digital information paradigms, and the merits of keeping a changelog.Ask us a question →Notable mentions:
Startups For The Rest Of Us #572
Andrew Wilkinson on the My First Million podcast
PageFlows.com
Chris Dixon and Naval Ravikant — The Wonders of Web3, How to Pick the Right Hill to Climb, Finding the Right Amount of Crypto Regulation, Friends with Benefits, and the Untapped Potential of NFTs (#542)
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11/2/2021 • 1 hour, 4 minutes, 4 seconds
53 | The price of entrepreneurship
Corey notices low new member signups for Swipe Files and thinks about how to introduce ways to give people a taste of the membership. Chris deals with some of the not-so-fun realities of running a business. They also talk about platform risk and playing the part of an independent recruiter.Ask us a question →Notable mentions:
Apply to the Swipe Files Talent Collective
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10/26/2021 • 38 minutes, 21 seconds
52 | The grind
Corey shares how the membership pricing has resulted in the best month to date. Chris realizes Jetboost has been lacking direction and puts together a roadmap with the team. They also talk about the grind to default alive, strategies when making pricing changes, and dopamine's effect on our ability to work.Ask us a question →Notable mentions:
Pat Walls tweet about startup journey
Andrew Wilkinson's tweet
Andrew Huberman on dopamine
Bubble update post
Swipe Files pricing update email
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10/19/2021 • 1 hour, 6 minutes, 13 seconds
51 | Charge more
Corey finally follows the "charge more" advice and rolls out a pricing update for Swipe Files. Chris celebrates the latest Jetboost demo reaching the front page of the Webflow Showcase. They also discuss hiring lawyers and other professional services, giving raises to employees, and how scary DNS is.Ask us a question →Notable mentions:
Webflow Showcase
Instatus
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10/6/2021 • 41 minutes, 54 seconds
50 | Chris the community leader
Corey works on a new membership landing page and plans on rolling out pricing updates. Chris officially releases Jetboost's Dynamic Sorting Booster and a new free Webflow template along with it. They also talk about Webflow's No-Code Conf and managing email list unsubscribes with Smart Subscriber.Ask us a question →Notable mentions:
Jetboost Dynamic Sorting
Free Jetboost template for Webflow
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9/29/2021 • 52 minutes, 42 seconds
49 | Default Alive: One year later
Corey gets ready to ship the Tiny Marketing Ideas newsletter and record his talk for Ad World. Chris rants about chargebacks and other frustrations with operating a SaaS business. They also reminisce about recording the podcast for a year and how things have changed since the first episode.Ask us a question →Notable mentions:
1 year anniversary of Default Alive
Tiny Marketing Ideas
Ad World Conference
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9/21/2021 • 39 minutes, 31 seconds
48 | Shipping September
Corey is heads-down creating newsletter content and begins niching down to SaaS marketing. Chris and the Jetboost team kick off September on a shipping spree. They also talk about energy ebbs and flows and Intuit acquiring Mailchimp for $12B.Ask us a question →Notable mentions:
Axios: Intuit Acquires Mailchimp for $12B
How I Built This: Mailchimp
CELSIUS energy drink
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9/14/2021 • 45 minutes, 56 seconds
47 | Corey Bombs
Corey explores niching down to focus on SaaS marketing and increasing pricing for Swipe Files. Chris shares how Jetboost is growing up. They also talk about MicroAcquires financing partnerships to make acquisitions more accessible.Ask us a question →Notable mentions:
Jetboost's big update
1,000 True Fans? Try 100
Bootstrappers.com
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8/24/2021 • 50 minutes, 28 seconds
46 | Indie Hackers of San Diego
Corey makes progress on the Swipe Files "evergreen newsletter" content and considers a way to drip out course content instead of dropping all at once. Chris is taking a break from marketing and working to wrap up a few product updates. They also talk about the first Indie Hackers of San Diego meetup since covid, the advantage of shipping small and shipping fast, and why it's ok to not have a singular, dominant growth channel.Ask us a question →Notable mentions:
Jetboost Dynamic Sorting Early Access
Meeps.app
MegaMaker Podcast
Michele Hansen's book, Deploy Empathy
San Diego Indie Hackers group
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8/17/2021 • 54 minutes, 35 seconds
45 | Manifest Destiny
Corey publishes a blog post about his public goals and his time offline at a summer camp. Chris is finding more balance between work and his personal life. They also talk about meeting SavvyCal founder Derrick Reimer in person and the surprising benefits of scheduled team calls.Ask us a question →Notable mentions:
Manifest Destiny blog post
Startup Funding Options For SaaS blog post
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8/10/2021 • 37 minutes, 50 seconds
44 | The almighty H1
Corey shares what he's learned from doing 25 personalized landing page teardowns for clients. Chris announces Dynamic Sorting for Jetboost (coming soon!) and describes the journey he took to get there. They also discuss positioning service businesses vs SaaS products, building a personal brand vs company brand, and a clever marketing hack for free products.Ask us a question →Notable mentions:
Jetboost Dynamic Sorting Early Access Announcement
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8/3/2021 • 54 minutes, 57 seconds
43 | Building and scaling with Derrick Reimer
Corey is off this week, so Chris is joined by Derrick Reimer, founder of SavvyCal. They chat about building and scaling SaaS products, making early hires, onboarding developers, and indulge in a bit of tech stack discussion.Ask us a question →Notable mentions:
SavvyCal
Art of Product Podcast
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7/28/2021 • 59 minutes, 20 seconds
42 | How to become a calm company
Corey trades notes with another community manager and creates a timeline for course updates. Chris wrestles over how to handle an extremely large potential customer. They also talk about shipping speed, Twitter threads, and building a more calm company.Ask us a question →Notable mentions:
Email Chris about the future of Jetboost: chris@jetboost.io
Max Haining of 100 Days of No Code
Justin Jackson's Product People podcast
Typefully
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7/20/2021 • 50 minutes, 37 seconds
41 | Chaos in the early days
Corey deals with some dog issues and offers landing page audits. Chris makes a key new hire and is excited to push Jetboost forward faster. They also talk about founder archetypes, handling chaos in the early days, and how to get big customers to let you use their logo.Ask us a question →Notable mentions:
Corey's landing page audit offer
There Are Four Types Of Founders…Which One Are You?
April Dunford's tweet about using customer logos
Potion
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7/13/2021 • 58 minutes, 52 seconds
40 | Founder hobbies
Corey writes his first angel checks and talks about how high the bar is these days for content creation. Chris puts work on the back burner for a week to resolve some personal issues. They also talk about what they do for fun and the dynamics of being an investor with an audience.Ask us a question →Notable mentions:
Outseta
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6/29/2021 • 1 hour, 2 minutes, 22 seconds
39 | Itching to get out
Corey struggles with his own community activity and gives an update on a cohort-based course. Chris successfully ships a major Jetboost update and levels up his Google Analytics skills. They also discuss bootstrapper funding and not feeling all that motivated for work as Covid restrictions end and summer begins.Ask us a question →Notable mentions:
Jetboost now 2-3x faster!
SureSwift Capital
Collab Capital
Justin Jackson interviews Jason Calacanis (2013): Part 1, Part 2
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6/22/2021 • 1 hour, 3 seconds
38 | Irons in the fire
Corey contemplates spending longer, focused time on big projects instead of juggling multiple projects at once. Chris feels like he's currently floundering a bit while jumping from one thing to the next. They also talk about competition, angel investing, and Berkshire Hathaway.Ask us a question →Notable mentions:
MegaMaker podcast
Acquired podcast
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6/15/2021 • 49 minutes, 20 seconds
37 | Thinking in public
Corey shares the (candidly disappointing) results of opening enrollment for Swipe Files courses. Chris has a mostly heads down week while working on a big infrastructure update. They also talk about some potential pivots for Swipe Files and paying for SaaS products.Ask us a question →Notable mentions:
Cold Turkey Blocker
Noah Bragg on Nathan Latka podcast
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6/8/2021 • 48 minutes
36 | K club and comma club
Corey reaches a Twitter following milestone and opens up enrollment for his courses. Chris celebrates a milestone and ramps up hiring for Jetboost. They also discuss burnout, launching on Product Hunt, and hiring VAs.Ask us a question →Notable mentions:
Mental Models For Marketing
Refactoring Growth
https://share.swipefiles.com
Squared Away
Missive
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6/2/2021 • 51 minutes, 41 seconds
35 | Surprisingly calm
Corey tests the waters with a "marketing bootcamp" cohort-based course and begins onboarding a virtual assistant. Chris has a surprisingly calm week. They also answer a listener question about how to evaluate new product ideas.Ask us a question →Notable mentions:
Marketing Bootcamp cohort-based course
ORB Framework
Content Remix
10 Questions for Teasing Out Market Opportunities
30x500
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5/11/2021 • 43 minutes, 51 seconds
34 | The hedonic treadmill of MRR
Corey accidentally starts a Twitter growth challenge with 100+ people. Chris ships off the Modkit update and has to send a difficult email to customers. They also talk about the hedonic treadmill of revenue growth and the myth of passive income.Ask us a question on Zip Message →Notable mentions:
ZipMessage
Be the first to join the waitlist for Corey's Marketing Bootcamp
Modkit for Webflow update
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5/4/2021 • 53 minutes, 1 second
33 | Mo people mo problems
Corey celebrates a year since launching Swipe Files and getting renewal revenue for the first time. Chris shares some struggles he's been facing as Jetboost continues to evolve. They also talk about Basecamp's recent changes regarding company policies and practices.👋 Corey here — I misunderstood when Chris said "a sauna" and thought he said "Asana" which might explain the dialogue 😅😂 Sorry for the confusion!Notable mentions:
ModKit for Webflow
Sponstayneous
Changes at Basecamp
Basecamp's new etiquette regarding societal politics at work
Geoff Roberts thoughts on Basecamp's changes
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4/27/2021 • 55 minutes, 33 seconds
32 | The internet is not real life
Corey gets back from vacation and brainstorms the Swipe Files roadmap. With support becoming less of a concern, Chris shifts his focus toward marketing. They also talk about founder life as a parent, onboarding surveys, and how the internet is not real life.Notable mentions:
Peep Laja tweet on parenting
Reform
The Shallows: What the Internet Is Doing to Our Brains
Startup to Last podcast
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4/20/2021 • 1 hour, 4 minutes, 19 seconds
31 | Putting money to work
Corey thinks about putting some saved money to work for Swipe Files. Chris has a great week as Noah is off and running on Jetboost support. They also talk about Earnest Capital's upcoming crowdfunding campaign on Wefunder and the viability of a return.Notable mentions:
Noah Raskin
Corey's tweet on Earnest crowdfunding
Crowdfunding the future of Earnest Capital
Sacra report on Earnest Capital
LendingClub
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4/6/2021 • 1 hour, 6 seconds
30 | March-ing along
Corey gets his first newsletter sponsor and talks about the "ORB Framework" for marketing. Chris shares insights from his first quarterly advisory board meeting for Jetboost. They also discuss some strategies for growing a podcast and the pros and cons of acquiring a Shopify app.Notable mentions:
Bootstrapped Web
Unbounce
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3/31/2021 • 49 minutes, 2 seconds
29 | Enough is enough
Corey launches the Tiny Marketing Ideas newsletter and invites the first beta users to Help A Creator. Chris unexpectedly lands his first support hire! They also talk about reaching your "enough" number and being able to step away from your business mentally.Notable mentions:
Brittleness - Jason Cohen
The enough number - Tyler King
Wil Reynolds - Living a Life of Enough.
The Dao of DAOs - Not Boring by Packy
Corey's podcast swap tweet
Bootstrapped Web
Bootstrapped.fm with Peldi of Balsamiq
Tiny Marketing Ideas
Help A Creator
Swipe Files workshop series
Corey on the Creative Elements podcast
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3/24/2021 • 50 minutes, 55 seconds
28 | Feeling the FOMO
Corey launches a new workshop series for Swipe Files and invests in Gumroad. Chris progresses closer to his first support hire as he outlines the position requirements. They also talk about jealousy and comparing yourself to other indie hackers and founders.Notable mentions:
Swipe Files Events
Bootstrapped Web
Gumroad on Republic
VEED.io on the Indie Hackers podcast
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3/16/2021 • 54 minutes, 48 seconds
27 | SOLD (Part 2)
Corey shares the numbers behind course sales, more on the Hey Marketers acquisition, and a Swipe Files revenue milestone. Chris gives thanks to Earnest Capital and sees how great delegating can be. They also talk about the acquisition of Makerpad and how SaaS companies will continue to integrate with media and communities.Notable mentions:
Zapier acquires Makerpad
Swipe Files reaches $2,000 MRR
Michele Hanson from the Software Social podcast
Recipe Webflow cloneable from Jetboost
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3/9/2021 • 1 hour, 16 minutes, 27 seconds
26 | SOLD
Corey shares details on the Hey Marketers acquisition and opens enrollment for his two courses. Chris is eager to move forward after a challenging month and reveals who he hired to create Jetboost tutorial videos. They also talk about having a business vs personal bank account, Corey's Hiten Shah interview on Everything Is Marketing, and the nuances of Stripe payouts.Notable mentions:
Hey Marketers
Rich Thornett
Everything Is Marketing with Hiten Shah
Compound Writing
Don't set Stripe payouts to daily
Pixel Geek Community
Less Annoying CRM's help docs built in Webflow
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3/2/2021 • 51 minutes, 14 seconds
25 | To Clubhouse or not to Clubhouse
Corey scales back on consulting and workshops a new idea for a course. Chris has a rough week dealing with server issues, but managed to finally update the Jetboost website. They also discuss consulting vs working on your own products, why "product-market fit" isn't that useful of a term, and of course, clubhouse.Notable mentions:
Jetboost new pricing page
Art of Product episode with Spencer Fry
Clubhouse vs Podcasting on Clubhouse with Corey
Everything Is Marketing: Rand Fishkin and April Dunford
Product-Market Fit is a Broken Concept. There’s a Better Way. by Rand Fishkin
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2/23/2021 • 49 minutes, 15 seconds
24 | Hiring saga continues
Corey shares some numbers on the launch of Everything Is Marketing and attempts to make room for Deep Work. Chris thinks about hiring and his new schedule as a dad. They also talk about when to hire, when to take a business moonshot, and more baby analogies about business.Notable mentions:
Everything Is Marketing
Michele Hansen on Software Social
Brian Casel - Bootstrapper’s formula for hiring your first employee
Tettra
Reilly Chase's 10 year plan
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2/16/2021 • 50 minutes, 24 seconds
23 | Babies and bootstrapping
Corey finally launches his new podcast Everything Is Marketing. Chris comes back from paternity leave and has an outage scare right before his son is born. They also talk about the lack of health insurance and mortgages for entrepreneurs, Corey's new no-code project, and plateau profitability.Notable mentions:
Matt Wensing's tweet on entrepreneur hostility
Ryan Kulp's tweet on profitable plateau'd SaaS
No Meetings, No Deadlines, No Full-Time Employees by Sahil Lavingia
Why You Should Hire Agencies & Consultants (for everything you can) by Rand Fishkin
Oscar Health's IPO
Tyler Tringas's tweet on mortgages for entrepreneurs
On Deck No-Code Fellowship
Help A Creator
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2/9/2021 • 54 minutes, 23 seconds
22 | Better done than perfect with Jane Portman
Chris is still out on paternity leave, so Jane Portman is filling in as a guest host.Corey prepares to launch his new podcast Everything Is Marketing. Jane talks about the new direction for Userlist in 2021 becoming a full-blown ESP. They also talk about early-stage SaaS growth, starting and growing a podcast, and the new Swipe Files book club.Notable mentions:
Swipe Files Book Club
Better Done Than Perfect podcast
UI Breakfast podcast
Slow & Steady podcast
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2/2/2021 • 1 hour, 1 minute, 56 seconds
21 | Fighting marketing bullsh*t with Louis Grenier
Corey buys swipefiles.com and releases the trailer for his new podcast. Louis prepares for his hotseat workshop and begins creating new content for his podcast Everyone Hates Marketers. They also talk about what it means to be productive, earning and capitalizing on trust, and being self-critical.Notable mentions:
Corey buys swipefiles.COM
Corey releases the trailer for his new podcast Everything Is Marketing
Corey's theory about making a living online as a creator
Louis' podcast Everyone Hates Marketers
Louis' upcoming program Stand The F*ck Out
Everything SubStack
Tiago Forte's Praxis archive
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1/26/2021 • 1 hour, 9 minutes, 37 seconds
20 | Rent money revenue and the first customer with Noah Bragg
Corey gets to "rent-money" revenue with Swipe Files. Noah gets the first customer for his new SaaS called Potion. They also talk about how much marketing you should do early on, which segment of a market you should target first, and how to plan for irregular cash flow.Notable mentions:
On Deck No-Code Fellowship
Product Journey podcast
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1/19/2021 • 53 minutes, 15 seconds
19 | Juggling a growing SaaS *and* online course with Louis Nicholls
Chris is out temporarily with the pending due date of his new baby, so Louis Nicholls is filling in as a guest host.Corey talks about the aftermath of launching both Swipe Files and SavvyCal on Product Hunt. Louis talks about setting goals for SparkLoop now that they're a growing and profitable business. They also talk about hiring a content marketer, live vs self-serve online courses, and short-term vs long-term marketing.Notable mentions:
Art of Product podcast
Swipe Files on Product Hunt
SavvyCal on Product Hunt
The SUP? Podcast
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1/12/2021 • 1 hour, 13 minutes, 23 seconds
18 | Front page of Product Hunt
Corey gets covid and gets hunted on Product Hunt. Chris sees some early success with Jetboost's bundled subscriptions and opens them up for everyone. They also talk about switching to annual billing for software, the differences in customer support expectations for different widgets, and having a high enough ARPU for a referral program.Notable mentions:
Swipe Files on Product Hunt
Pages by Headlime
Allen Walton shuts off phone support for SpyGuy
Help Scout
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1/5/2021 • 48 minutes, 50 seconds
17 | Surviving 2020
Corey and Chris review their progress in 2020 and look forward to what's next in 2021. They also discuss Mailbrew's approach to bootstrapping, the process of launching on Product Hunt, and the recent stir caused by the new owners of Baremetrics.Notable mentions:
Jetboost Early Access: Advanced Pagination and discounted bundles
6 months to make our company work - Mailbrew
SaaS we happily pay for
Baremetrics drama
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12/29/2020 • 1 hour, 8 minutes, 20 seconds
16 | No holiday breaks allowed
Corey launches a new weekly curated marketing digest and works on a public "1,000 true fans" experiment. Chris is racing to finish development on Jetboost's big upcoming release before the year-end. They also talk about trying to take time off for the holidays, delegating work, clean vs messy code, and Mailbrew's "public brews".Notable mentions:
Mailbrew
Marketing Weekly
Corey's appearance on the Growth Machine podcast
1,000 true fans WIP page
Corey sold 10 landing page teardowns + audits
Jane Wong Tweet: Tech industry shutting down for rest of 2020
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12/22/2020 • 47 minutes, 22 seconds
15 | The business of bundling
Corey considers a Swipe Files bundle that also includes his two courses. Chris debates a few different bundling options for Jetboost Boosters. They also talk about hobbies (or more accurately lack thereof), managing your psychology on down days, launching on Product Hunt (or not!), and documentation.Notable mentions:
Tiago Forte on "Progressive Summarization"
Arvid Kahl on code documentation
Nocodelytics by Sarwech Shar
I have no hobbies
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12/15/2020 • 45 minutes, 9 seconds
14 | Living the passive income dream
Corey reveals the numbers behind his course sales after opening enrollment and starts planning for 2021. Chris hires development help and starts preparing for paternity leave. They also talk about the reality of productivity and setting goals as an optimistic entrepreneur.Notable mentions:
Corey's original goal of 20 sales
Seamless pagination coming soon
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12/8/2020 • 41 minutes, 42 seconds
13 | This episode is 50% off
Corey opens up enrollment for his two courses and makes some no-code breakthroughs for Swipe Files. Chris is heads down working on the fifth Booster for Jetboost and may have some additional dev help on the way. They also ramble about Black Friday/Cyber Monday deals for SaaS, rounding out 2020, and quieting the no-code haters.Notable mentions:
Recreate a signup flow like SubStack in Webflow
Update numbers dynamically on a page with Integromat
Thread of Black Friday SaaS deals
Refactoring Growth
Mental Models For Marketing
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12/1/2020 • 38 minutes, 17 seconds
12 | Front page fame
Corey prepares for Black Friday and Cyber Monday promotions and considers where to take Swipe Files in the new year. Chris is having success outsourcing, as he has a project reach the Webflow Front Page for the first time, and he announces a surprising new Jetboost customer. They also talk about how often to message your email list.Notable mentions:
Get notified of Refactoring Growth and Mental Models For Marketing
https://technically.substack.com/
Webflow Cloneable Job Board Template
Hatch Framework for Webflow by Mackenzie Child
https://www.passionsports.ca/
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11/24/2020 • 35 minutes, 25 seconds
11 | Sometimes the customer is always right
Corey questions how to sell the Swipe Files membership and differentiate from other marketing digital products. Chris releases a heavily requested Jetboost feature and admits that he should have listened to his customers sooner. They also discuss the Baremetrics sale, QSBS, rant about Hacker News, and share their experiences with early employee stock options and profit-sharing.Notable mentions:
I sold Baremetrics
I almost sold Baremetrics for $5m
5 things I learned failing to sell Baremetrics for $5m
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11/17/2020 • 53 minutes, 43 seconds
10 | Confession time
Corey confesses that he hasn't been shipping as much as he should trying to be a perfectionist and secures sponsors for his new podcast under Swipe Files. Chris confesses that the election was a major distraction for him, but thanks to Founder Summit was able to make progress on a new pricing model for Jetboost. They also talk about getting feedback for podcasts, finding fulfillment in the work you do, and some tips for growing your personal network.Notable mentions:
Corey Gwin: Reality is a shared agreement
Startup To Last Podcast: Customer support vacation day
Founder Summit Mastermind Sprint
Airr Podcast App
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11/10/2020 • 52 minutes, 2 seconds
9 | Calm before the storm
Corey starts consulting part-time with an early-stage startup and finds some clarity about why people purchase a Swipe Files membership. Chris is in a groove shipping updates to Jetboost and is now working on the number one feature request from the past year. They also talk about the process of capturing and prioritizing customer requests, new note-taking apps like Roam and Obsidian, and how to think about your personal vs company account on Twitter.Notable mentions:
Jetboost Update: Booster Import
Groundbreaking month for Swipe Files
SavvyCal
RICE Prioritization Framework
Corey's tweet on company vs personal Twitter
Swipe Files' mission
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11/3/2020 • 52 minutes, 55 seconds
8 | You are not your MRR
Corey realizes his emotions are directly tied to his revenue forecast, sets a roadmap, and commits to start working with a new consulting client. Chris has a breakthrough and solves a longstanding product issue. He also looks to learn more about people who aren't having success with Jetboost. Additionally, they discuss the pros and cons of live chat support and why you might aim to shrink your product's knowledge base rather than grow it.Notable mentions:
Tyler Tringas: You are not your MRR
Michael Aubry: The positive ROI of adding a chat widget
Jetboost breakthrough
Startup to Last
Bootstrapped Web
Software Social
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10/27/2020 • 46 minutes, 53 seconds
7 | Having fun again and emailing with Seth Godin
Corey shoots his shot with Seth Godin, opens up the Swipe Files community to the public, and commits to a new weekly schedule. Chris is having fun again as Jetboost reaches Default Alive, working with freelancers is paying off, and he's building some exciting new features. They also chat about code vs no-code, why you should use Webflow for your company's marketing site, and how to respectfully say no to requests and messages from internet friends.Notable mentions:
iPhone 12 website rebuilt in Webflow
Tim Ferriss on why you don't want to be famous
Goalsy
Nocodelytics
Essentialism
The One Thing
Hell Yeah or No
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10/20/2020 • 52 minutes, 18 seconds
6 | Investing in rest, outsourcing, and time management
Corey reflects on spending a week on vacation while moving the ball forward with the Swipe Files community, new podcast, and free trial tweaks. Chris launched the latest Jetboost add-on, Auto-Archiving for Webflow CMS Items, and after some initial investment upfront, began to experience the benefits of outsourcing work. They also talk about scheduling your week, preparing for the end of the year, and launching a community.Notable mentions:
Jetboost Update - Auto-Archive Webflow CMS Items
Marc Andreessen - Scheduling your week
Mackenzie Child - Flowmingo
Tyler King - Less Annoying CRM
Founder Summit
Startup to Last
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10/13/2020 • 40 minutes, 26 seconds
5 | Creating stories with Michael Aubry
Corey is off enjoying his vacation this week, so Chris is joined by a special guest, Michael Aubry, the founder of Story Creator!Michael shares why he built Story Creator, some of the challenges along the way, how he thinks about content marketing, and he reveals some exciting product updates that he's working on.Chris continues to harp on the benefits of monthly reviews as he looks back at a not-so-great September and discusses his plans for Q4 as he looks to finish the year strong.They also discuss the ups and downs of running a business, staying motivated as a solo-founder, marketing a "main dish" vs a "side dish", living in San Diego, and the future of office work.Notable mentions:
Story Creator
Follow Michael on Twitter
Justin Jackson: Main Dish vs Side Dish
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10/6/2020 • 1 hour, 3 minutes
4 | Side-tracked and on the right track
Corey explores selling one of his side businesses while also ramping up coaching and contemplating how to best package Swipe Files. Chris reaches out to potential customers and discovers that he's on the right track, but is slowed down by date and time zone complexities. They also discuss the challenge of stepping back from their businesses while on vacation.Notable mentions:
Startup School 2014: How to Operate
Hey Marketers for sale tweet
Corey's wife's e-commerce store
Art of Product
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9/29/2020 • 47 minutes, 52 seconds
3 | Making progress as a Company of One
Corey has a crazy first week on his own and contemplates how to create a calm "company of one." Chris forces himself out of the product development vacuum for his latest product and starts working on hiring out some engineering as marketing. They also talk about mental capacity as a knowledge worker, debate the incentives of public companies, and reducing information overload.Notable mentions:
Why you should send monthly advisor and investor updates by Tyler Tringas
Amy Hoy's article about consulting vs product
Swipe Files is annual only now
Michele Hansen on being able to reject ICE as a customer
Mailbrew
Company of One
It Doesn't Have To Be Crazy At Work
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9/22/2020 • 53 minutes, 32 seconds
2 | An anniversary and an announcement
Corey parts ways with Baremetrics and goes full-time as a creator. Chris celebrates his one year anniversary working on Jetboost and grapples with an increased support volume. They also talk about having a job vs a business, evergreen vs invitation membership models, and what it was like first starting out.Notable mentions:
Chris's one year anniversary tweet
Corey's tweet announcement
Making The Leap by Corey
Startup To Last
Build Your SaaS
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9/15/2020 • 1 hour, 21 seconds
1 | Default Alive or Default Dead?
Corey and Chris introduce the concept of the show, what to expect, and what it means to be "default alive." Corey talks about how he switched his courses from evergreen to an open/close model and now trying to figure out how to make the Swipe Files membership more valuable. Chris talks about how he mostly did marketing in August and is now switching back to "product mode." They also discuss the pros and cons of transparency and how it's different between software and content businesses.Notable mentions:
Default Alive or Default Dead? by Paul Graham
Bootstrapped Web
Software Social
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