Content Logistics is a podcast for B2B marketers looking to build a content engine that drives revenue. Camille Trent interviews the marketers behind the best content marketing flywheels to uncover the tactical aspects of content production — from first draft to first customer. This podcast teaches everything from developing a sound content strategy to drafting, optimizing and distributing that content to grow your audience. Ultimately, Content Logistics helps marketers understand how to become the best content creators and distributors within their own organization.
How to Create 100 Pieces of (Quality) Content Per Week
In this episode of Content Logistics, host Camille Trent engages with Stephen Pope on the intricate dance of high-volume content creation and distribution. Stephen underscores the significance of systematizing content production to handle volume without sacrificing quality. He delves into strategies for organizing, producing, and distributing large quantities of content, emphasizing the importance of a structured approach through tools and technologies.They further discuss the challenges of maintaining a consistent and impactful content flow. Stephen shares insights on balancing the creative aspects with logistical necessities, highlighting the role of databases and automation in streamlining processes. The conversation turns to the practicalities of managing content at scale, including the use of metrics and feedback to refine strategies and improve engagement.Lastly, the episode touches on the future of content logistics, with Stephen suggesting that adaptability and continuous innovation are key to leveraging high-volume content. He reflects on the evolving landscape of content creation, driven by technological advances and changing audience demands, stressing that successful content strategy is not just about quantity but strategically using volume to build presence and influence.
1/22/2024 • 1 hour, 35 minutes, 23 seconds
Content Ops PT 2: How to Add & Scale New Content Programs as a Solo Marketer
In this episode of Content Logistics, host Camille Trent welcomes Eric Doty, the content lead at Dock, who shares his insights on SEO and content operations. Their conversation kicks off with Camille expressing excitement about having Eric on the show, citing his previous appearance on the Superpath podcast and his expertise in SEO as key reasons for inviting him.Eric, with his background in SEO and experience as a one-person marketing team for seed-stage startups, discusses the importance of SEO in content strategy. He emphasizes the foundational role of SEO content in the growth and scaling of a company, particularly in the early stages. This approach, driven by both his past experiences and the specific needs of the company, underscores the strategic importance of SEO in building a company's online presence.Throughout the episode, Eric offers valuable insights into the world of content marketing, highlighting the significance of SEO in establishing a robust digital footprint. This conversation is a must-listen for anyone interested in the intricacies of content strategy and the role of SEO in driving business growth.
1/8/2024 • 1 hour, 2 minutes, 43 seconds
Product-Led Content: How to Create & Use Brand Messaging in Your Content Strategy
In the latest episode of Content Logistics, host Camille Trent welcomes Qasim Makkani from Adcetera for an insightful conversation on the nuances of marketing and content strategy.The discussion opens with an exploration of the fundamentals of marketing communication. Camille and Qasim dive into the importance of understanding your audience and the art of translating complex messaging documents into effective market strategies. As the episode progresses, Qasim shares his perspective on the challenges and intricacies of branding and messaging in both startup and enterprise environments. He emphasizes the need for a solid positioning foundation, elaborating on how it serves as a starting point for all marketing endeavors. The podcast culminates with a focus on the practical aspects of content creation. Camille and Qasim discuss the balance between creativity and constraints in content marketing, exploring how boundaries can foster more focused and effective messaging. This episode of Content Logistics offers a deep dive into the strategic thinking behind successful marketing and content creation, providing valuable insights for professionals navigating these complex fields.
12/4/2023 • 1 hour, 1 minute, 26 seconds
What NOT to do in your first 30/60/90 days as a new content marketer
In this episode of Content Logistics, host Camille Trent engages with Jess Cook, Head of Content at Lasso, in a deep dive into the first 30, 60, 90 days as a new content leader at a tech startup.The conversation kicks off with Jess sharing her journey from a junior copywriter to a creative director, focusing on B2C brands. The duo then explores the importance of understanding the product, the current content landscape, and customer research in the initial month. Jess emphasizes the need to listen, learn, and not rush into writing or creating.As the discussion progresses, they delve into the logistics of content onboarding, discussing the need for access to communication tools, CRM systems, and project management tools. They also highlight the significance of understanding the budget, tech stack, and human resources available. Jess concludes with advice for new content hires, encouraging them to ask questions and seek clarifications.This episode is a must-listen for anyone stepping into a content leadership role in a tech startup. It offers valuable insights into setting the right pace, asking the right questions, and establishing a solid foundation for success.
10/4/2023 • 51 minutes, 32 seconds
AI + Content Marketing: How to automate 75%+ of your podcast process
In this episode of Content Logistics, host Camille Trent dives into a deep discussion with Ramli John from Appcues. They explore the intersection of AI and content marketing, shedding light on how AI can streamline podcast production and save time.The conversation takes a turn toward the practical application of AI in everyday life. They discuss the use of AI tools like Miro for ideation and brainstorming and how these tools can automatically branch out ideas, saving time and effort. They also touch upon the use of AI for creating images and videos and how AI can be integrated into social media tools like HubSpot.Towards the end, they discuss the importance of content distribution and how AI can aid in repurposing content for different platforms. They also touch on the value of AI in content measurement, highlighting its impact on increasing impressions on platforms like LinkedIn and Twitter. This episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in leveraging AI for content marketing.
9/20/2023 • 49 minutes, 17 seconds
5 levels of research content for B2B SaaS
In this episode of Content Logistics, Camille Trent dives into the world of research content. She outlines five key strategies to leverage research for content creation.Firstly, she discusses the value of Roundup research. It's a level-one strategy but can provide valuable insights and hooks for your product story. Secondly, she explores the classic industry report, emphasizing the importance of mixing quantitative and qualitative data.In the third strategy, Camille introduces the concept of community-led research reports. She emphasizes the importance of unbiased data and the role of surveys in gathering this data. The fourth strategy is a twist on the third - replacing surveys with quizzes to gamify the process and increase engagement.Finally, she discusses product-led research, using your product data to create compelling content. Camille encourages listeners to share their thoughts on these strategies and their experiences with research content. This episode is a must-listen for anyone looking to enhance their content strategy with research.
9/6/2023 • 37 minutes, 43 seconds
How to double your newsletter subscribers in 90 days with Jeremiah Rizzo
In this episode of Content Logistics, Jeremiah Rizzo sits down with Camille Trent, Director of Content & Community at PeerSignal & Keyplay. They delve into the art of crafting a compelling newsletter, with Trent sharing her unique approach to data analysis and content creation.Trent emphasizes the importance of understanding the data and finding the story within it. She explains how she breaks down the newsletter into segments, starting with social proof and a recap of the previous week. She also highlights the importance of linking out to related posts, creating a growth loop for the content.The conversation also explores the evolution of their newsletter. Trent shares how she and her team continually refine their content based on feedback and data analysis. She also discusses the results they've seen, including a significant increase in subscribers. This episode is a must-listen for anyone looking to improve their content strategy and engagement.
8/9/2023 • 1 hour, 2 minutes, 21 seconds
How to scale your B2B company newsletter to 25K with Stewart Hillhouse
In this episode of Content Logistics, host Camille Trent engages in a deep dive with Stewart Hillhouse, Head of Content at Mutiny. They explore the personal nature of email as a medium, contrasting it with the more public domain of blog posts. Stewart shares his journey into content marketing, which began with launching his podcast and reaching out to marketers for insightful conversations.The discussion pivots to the power of newsletters and the strategies for audience growth. Stewart shares his insights on creating sections within newsletters, making them more digestible and engaging for the readers. He also emphasizes the importance of storytelling in newsletters, highlighting the human side of marketing.The conversation concludes with a focus on distribution strategies and the challenges of getting content in front of the right audience. Stewart shares his tactics and strategies, providing listeners valuable takeaways to apply in their content marketing efforts.
6/7/2023 • 55 minutes, 41 seconds
Mailbag: “What if your podcast guest is boring?”
In this episode of Content Logistics, host Camille Trent delves into the essential elements of a successful podcast interview, starting with a strong framework for the show and individual episodes. She emphasizes the importance of nailing the premise and having a clear, engaging topic to draw listeners in.Camille also discusses the role of the host as a director and live editor. She shares valuable tips for keeping the podcast on track, including mapping out the story, rephrasing questions, and recapping answers. Camille particularly highlights the significance of being silent, allowing guests to fully express their thoughts and avoid awkward overlaps. By doing so, the conversation flows better and ultimately leads to more meaningful discussions.Lastly, she encourages listeners to reach out with their tips and experiences. This open invitation paves the way for a follow-up episode incorporating audience input, showcasing the podcast's commitment to continuous improvement and fostering a community of engaged listeners.
5/18/2023 • 22 minutes, 50 seconds
How to create content that speaks to your audience with Tommy Walker
Content creation is hard work, and if you want to start a podcast or create engaging content for your audience, you need to build a strong strategy. However, the most vital thing to remember is that it's all about your audience; so, you need to put yourself in their shoes.In this episode of the Content Logistics podcast, our host Camille Trent welcomes Tommy Walker, the founder of The Content Studio. They talk about the importance of understanding your customer's journey, how you can engage your audience, and why you need to speak to the humanity of your audience.
4/11/2023 • 1 hour, 3 minutes, 22 seconds
How to create content for hyper-effective ABM campaigns with Corrina Owens
Account-based marketing (ABM) is a strategic approach where you align sales and marketing to bring in new valuable customers. It aims to engage and convert high-value prospects into paying customers. But how do you create content that converts better for ABM campaigns?In this episode of the Content Logistics podcast, our host Camille Trent welcomes Corrina Owens, Sr. Demand Gen Manager at Gong. They talk about how ABM helps marketers elevate their content, why you need to focus on the voice of the customer, and how to lift up your prospects even before they're customers.
4/11/2023 • 55 minutes, 7 seconds
How content decay delays business growth with Nate Turner
Creating unique content becomes challenging as the business climate and customers' knowledge and preferences change. But, as we established a while ago, we don't expect content creators to reinvent the wheel. Instead, an occasional walk down your blog's ''memory lane'' helps reintroduce old topics, analyze their current performance, and determine where change is necessary. Nate Turner, the CEO & co-founder of Ten Speed, joins us in this episode of Content Logistics to discuss the causes and consequences of content decay and how companies should deal with it to prevent it from hurting their growth.
3/15/2023 • 49 minutes, 22 seconds
How to recession-proof your marketing with owned content featuring Anthony Kennada
In this podcast episode, we discuss the impact of the ongoing recession on content teams, which are often the first to face budget cuts. Many companies perceive content teams as dispensable, but our guest, Anthony Kennada of AudiencePlus, argues that content is essential for marketing success. As Kennada puts it, "Without content, there is no marketing. Content is the flywheel that makes marketing happen."Anthony explains why companies should keep their content teams, emphasizing their role in content distribution. He also discusses the shift in consumer behavior and how people consume content. According to current trends, as Anthony notes, content built around consumers, and not an algorithm, will drive business growth in 2023.
3/1/2023 • 49 minutes, 13 seconds
How to build an integrated content marketing engine for your SaaS platform with Ashley Faus
Integrated marketing is a strategy for delivering a unified message across all the marketing channels your brand uses. It lets businesses have a cohesive narrative about their brand and have a significant impact with their campaigns. And with an integrated marketing strategy, you can deliver mixed media messages or communicate in an independent voice. But marketing across multiple channels is also a challenge. The more you use, the more difficult it becomes to ensure message consistency. Given the complexity of digital marketing channels, integrated marketing usually requires focused planning and effort, and that's where an integrated marketing strategy can be of great help. In this episode of Content Logistics, our host Camille Trent welcomes Ashley Faus, the director of Integrated Product Marketing at Atlassian. Ashley gets into the structuring of a marketing team and why it's important not to separate the content and distribution parts from product marketing. Ashley and Camille discuss integrated marketing, the importance of shared goals for creating the right content strategy, and Ashley's different roles.
2/15/2023 • 59 minutes, 12 seconds
Learning how audience research makes your marketing team more sustainable with Amanda Natividad
Content marketing is a strategy to attract, engage, and retain an audience by creating and sharing relevant articles, videos, podcasts, and other media. And if you want to stand out from the competition, you can create branded content that helps illustrate your company's point of view and evokes an emotional response from your audience. But you need to know your audience for this strategy to succeed. If you don't understand your ICP and audience, you won't know how to go to market and how to build a better product. So, you need to know what your audience wants from your product and content.In this episode of Content Logistics, our host Camille Trent welcomes Amanda Natividad, VP of Marketing at SparkToro. Amanda explains how you can create a successful content brand. Amanda and Camille discuss audience research, the ways to do it, and its benefits for the marketing team.
2/1/2023 • 47 minutes, 14 seconds
How B2B SaaS Companies Can Benefit From Becoming Media Companies with Melissa Rosenthal
''Every B2B SaaS company should be a media company,'' says Melissa Rosenthal, the Chief Creative Officer at ClickUp and our guest on this episode of Content Logistics. In this episode, host Camille Trent sits down with Melissa to discuss the importance of B2B SaaS companies operating as media companies. Melissa emphasizes that by creating targeted content and building long-term connections with their audience, B2B SaaS companies can drive significant business growth. She also highlights the benefits of producing evergreen content, which can save time and resources in the long term.Throughout the episode, Melissa provides valuable insights and real-life examples to support her argument. She also offers practical tips for creating content that stands out in the feed. Melissa also highlights how to plan and execute a media strategy, including hiring and budget considerations. This episode is a must-listen for any B2B SaaS business looking to optimize its content marketing efforts and understand what it means to function as a media company.
1/18/2023 • 46 minutes, 35 seconds
How to write & launch a book for your SaaS or consulting business with Diego Pineda
Writing a book seems like a daunting task, and it definitely requires a lot of hard work and patience. But the sooner you start writing, the better you'll eventually become.In this episode of the Content Logistics podcast, our host Camille Trent welcomes Diego Pineda, an author and a content marketing manager at Dooly. Diego is also a published author with a rich portfolio of fiction and nonfiction books. Camille and Diego chat about why you need to write about frameworks, not ideas; testing your ideas online; and the importance of gaining insight into your audience.
12/14/2022 • 47 minutes, 52 seconds
How to evaluate content marketing job opportunities
The job market is extremely hot right now, and many people are looking to build their careers and shift into better roles. But how do you evaluate different content marketing job opportunities to make sure you pick the best one? In this episode of the Content Logistics podcast, our host Camille Trent talks about the most vital factors to consider when evaluating your career path. She shares some tips for understanding whether a specific role or a company is the right choice for you.
11/30/2022 • 36 minutes, 50 seconds
How to Build & Scale a Modern Content Team at a SaaS Startup with Mark Kilens
Content marketing is used to attract, engage, and retain an audience by creating and sharing relevant articles, videos, podcasts, and other media. And in a saturated market, content marketing can help brands stand out from the competition and reach audiences, adding value by providing informative and engaging content to drive brand awareness, loyalty, and ultimately, sales.But content marketing is not static, and it doesn't look the same now as it did ten years ago — just as it won't look the same in ten years. Today, content marketing comes in the form of websites, social media, podcasts, blogs, etc., and if you form your content marketing team, you must be careful in your selection, and choose only those who love the job.In this episode of Content Logistics, our host Camille Trent welcomes Mark Kilens, the CMO of Airmeet. Mark and Camille get into the importance of content marketing and how to build a content marketing team. They discuss who are good marketers and what falls under the purview of the content department.
11/16/2022 • 37 minutes, 55 seconds
How to gather, organize, and use reviews in your conversion copy with Nick Bennett and Jay Desai
Customer reviews are a great way to get valuable customer insights. And they are the best way to improve your product offering.Customer reviews are also a powerful form of social proof that can help you strengthen your brand image and better position yourself in the market.In this episode of the Content Logistics podcast, our host Camille Trent welcomes Nick Bennett and Jay Desai. Nick is the director of evangelism and customer marketing at Alyce, and Jay is the head of marketing at Captivate Talent. They talk about leveraging customer reviews as social proof, why you should systemize your review processes, and why it's important to have your own reviews page.
11/2/2022 • 37 minutes, 48 seconds
How to run community-led SEO at scale with John Bonini
Developing an effective content strategy is a top priority for a lot of marketing teams. And marketers have to constantly stay up to speed with algorithm changes in order to rank their best content.But if you monitor the algorithm too closely and don’t pay attention to your customers’ questions, then your content may miss the mark (i.e., won’t lead to revenue).And that’s where a community-led content marketing strategy comes in. This type of strategy can help your team balance SEO requirements and customer questions.In this episode of Content Logistics, John Bonini, the Director of Marketing at Databox, joins our host Camille Trent to discuss community content. John shares how his company approaches it, why they decided to go in that direction, who is involved in the process, and why content writers should be reporters rather than columnists, at least at the beginning of their careers.
10/12/2022 • 46 minutes, 8 seconds
Are eBooks really dead? — featuring Marc Thomas
“Ungate all of your content. Provide all of your content for free without even asking for an email address.” But this advice is easier said than done.Ultimately, companies must create content to build awareness and drive growth. And SaaS companies have to articulate the value of their solution through content. But while some may profit from offering all of their content for “free”, others may need to use gated assets to meet their specific goalsSo is gated content really dead? Or is there a place for it?In this episode of Content Logistics, our host Camille Trent welcomes Marc Thomas, Head of Growth at Powered by Search. The two discuss gated content and when and how companies should use it. Marc also discusses lead generation and whether the term is relevant in 2022. He also shares valuable tips on how to grow your customer base and emphasizes the power of repurposed content.
9/21/2022 • 47 minutes, 43 seconds
3 types of communities for your SaaS company (and how to build them) Joel Primack
Lately, we've witnessed the rise of community-led growth — a go-to-market strategy that relies on the impact, influence, and inputs from a strong, supportive community as the main lever for product and business growth. And having a strong community creates a win-win situation for your users and your business. But many have difficulties creating a good community because they do not understand what it means. If you really don't understand your customer or your audience, you're probably not going to be able to create a good community because a community is not just a place; it's much more than that.Joel Primack is the social and community specialist at Lattice, an advisor at Charla, and the co-founder of Revenue Era, a private community. He believes that community is less about what you actually see and more about how people feel in it.In this episode of Content Logistics, Joel gets into communities and when and why we need them. Joel and our host Camille Trent discuss community-led growth — what it is, how you go about it, and how it can benefit a company or entrepreneur.
8/17/2022 • 39 minutes, 18 seconds
Content-Market Fit: How to create the right content strategy for your GTM with Ryan Law
Content marketing is used to attract, engage, and retain an audience by creating and sharing relevant articles, videos, podcasts, and other media. And it can be one of the most effective tools to help businesses grow.But not all companies are successful at creating a content marketing strategy. Some often focus too much on tactics and not enough on strategy, while others target too broad an audience. Also, the fact that different types of companies should have different marketing strategies is ignored.Fortunately, there are content marketing agencies that strive to create the best content for the web. One of them is Animalz, which provides high-quality content marketing to enterprise companies, startups, and VC firms.In this episode of Content Logistics, our host Camille Trent welcomes Ryan Law, VP of Content at Animalz. Camille and Ryan get into the importance of a content marketing strategy and the right approach to it. In addition, they discuss thought leadership as one of the tools for content strategy and how to create a content marketing strategy for different types of companies.
7/13/2022 • 51 minutes, 25 seconds
Content Career Paths: How to choose the right content marketing career for you
Companies create content in various formats, including text, audio, and video. But there’s no such thing as one-size-fits-all in terms of content strategy. Therefore, companies that acknowledge the importance of content marketing (more and more do, especially in the tech space) put a lot of thought into creating a high-quality content team that thinks out of the box. However, that’s easier said than done as content evolves, and companies must stay on top of trends to stay relevant and meet customers’ needs. Fortunately, many successful content creators/team members like Bridget Poetker and Brendan Hufford are willing to share valuable tips to make the job of aspiring content creators easier.Bridget and Brendan join host Camille Trent in this episode of Content Logistics. The three discuss different content roles, the importance of a great content leader, things to consider when creating/joining a content team, and how company culture can make or break a content team.
6/22/2022 • 53 minutes, 13 seconds
How to drive 50k website clicks a day with Steve Toth
Website optimization, which primarily involves changing the content and HTML code, is used to improve a site’s overall ranking. But for most businesses, it's challenging to find untapped opportunities in today’s highly competitive SERPs. In this episode of Content Logistics, Camille Trent welcomes Steve Toth, SEO advisor and the former SEO Manager at FreshBooks. Camille and Steve get into how to grow your website from 0 to 50k clicks per day. And they talked about the importance of using Google tools, Chrome extensions, SEO tools (SEO Minion and Ahrefs), keyword clustering tools, and text tools.