Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptWe are more like a hobbit than any of us will admit.Guest Bio:Matthew J. Distefano is the author of multiple best-selling books, co-host of two podcasts, a long-time social worker, and hip-hop artist. He lives in Northern California with his wife and daughter. Guest Music by The Silver PagesYou can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $3/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. Follow the show:Facebook, Twitter, Store, BookShop.orgAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptCome with me and grab a seat at the table; it's time to list. Guest Bio:Ekemini Uwan (pronounced Eh-keh-mi-knee Oo-wan) is a public theologian and co-author of Truth’s Table: Black Women’s Musings on Life, Love, and Liberation.  She is the co-host of the award-winning podcast,  Truth's Table and Get In The Word With Truth’s Table. Uwan is the Black Christian Experience Resource Center’s 2022 inaugural Theologian-in-Residence and a 2021 member of the Aspen Institute’s Racial Justice and Religion Commission. Ekemini is also a contributing writer for Hallmark Mahogany and Christianity Today named her among "10 New or Lesser-Known Female Theologians Worth Knowing.” In 2021, she earned the IMPACT Award from The Institute for the Study of the Black Christian Experience for work with Truth’s Table Podcast.Get the Book Guest Music by Remedy DriveYou can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $3/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. Follow the show:Facebook, Twitter, Store, BookShop.orgAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptWhat is it like to actually practice our faith? How often do we sit in contemplation and meet God where He already is in true searching and in a truly Earthshaking moments of worship? Aaron and I discuss what it means to enter into the current of life that is practice-based worship of the Creator of all things. Guest Bio:Aaron is a liturgist, writer, and pastor in the Chicago area. After leading worship at Mars Hill Church (Grand Rapids, MI) and Willow Creek Church, he created A New Liturgy- a collection of modern liturgical worship recordings. Shortly after, he started a practice-based community at Willow Creek called The Practice. His new book about a practice-based faith called The Eternal Current: How a Practice-Based Faith Can Save Us from Drowning.Guest Socials:Twitter: @AaronieqWeb: aaronniequist.comInstagram: aaronieqSpecial Music for this episode was provided by A New Liturgy from the album A New Liturgy No. 6. Tracks include: Thank You, Benediction, Please Speak More information about A New Liturgy is at anewliturgy.comYou can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. I am so grateful for you and want to invite you to become a part of the beloved community being developed here. Consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $3/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurchAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptYou are the you you are supposed to be. That's way to many "you's" but I just do not care :).Guest Bio:Matthew Paul Turner is the author of the #1 New York Times bestseller What Is God Like? as well as When God Made You and When I Pray for You. When the father of three isn’t writing books, he’s photographing interesting people and places, practicing wood carving, and watching his children play soccer. Visit his website at matthewpaulturner.com.Get the BookGuest Music by Forrest ClayYou can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $3/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. Follow the show:Facebook, Twitter, Store, BookShop.orgAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptLook at that church! It is just so cool. I mean it has the Biebs!Guest Bio:As of May 2022, Jonathan’s work is divided into three streams. First, ministry with InterVarsity is laser focused on developing resources and discipleship experiences to pursue racial justice and ethnic reconciliation. Second, his efforts around political discipleship are held within KTF Press – its weekly Substack, books, and Shake the Dust Podcast. Lastly, the deeper, formational work around justice issues as well as preaching, teaching and workshop facilitation is available via our Emotionally Healthy Activist Course. Web: www.jonathan-walton.com/Guest Music by The Silver PagesYou can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $3/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. Follow the show:Facebook, Twitter, Store, BookShop.orgAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptIt's time to sit, listen, and really begin to learn. Guest Bio:Andre Henry is an award-winning musician, writer, and activist contending for the world that ought to be. He is a columnist for Religion News Service and the author of the newsletter “Hope and Hard Pills.” His activism in pursuit of racial justice has been featured in The New Yorker and The Nation, and on The Liturgists Podcast.Web: www.andrehenry.co/Guest Music by Andre HenryYou can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $3/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. Follow the show:Facebook, Twitter, Store, BookShop.orgAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Hey everyone! It's spring break for me and the family and we have decided to run up, way!, into the mountains. With that being said I hope you enjoy this nugget that I have thought of often since having this conversation. Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptThe whole world is dancing to a song we can't hear. But for those of us that has ears to hear we hear the dirge and we hear Christ's critique of our inability to enter into it.Guest Bio:Lo The Poet (Lo Alaman) could be considered an artist, speaker, minister, and Laker fan most days of the week. But there isn’t a day he doesn’t consider himself a husband, a father, and a son of The Most High God. Whether preaching, spitting poetry, or just chilling with new best friends, Lo seeks to create moments to minister the love of Jesus in every space he enters. Lo lives in TX with his wife Erika and daughter Emersyn.Follow Lo @lothepoetGuest Music by Branan Murphy. Tracks: Good, My Life.You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. Follow the show:Facebook, Twitter, StoreAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptWe are bodies nested together on this planet and have lost connection with one another as well as ourselves. How do we begin to reconnect with that which we are?Guest Bio:Dr. Robyn Henderson-Espinoza is a transqueer activist, Latinx scholar, and public theologian. They are the founder of the Activist Theology Project, a collaborative project committed to the collective work of social healing. A thought-leader, teacher, ethicist, and poet of moral reason, Henderson-Espinoza is a visionary thinker working at the forefront of movements dismantling supremacy culture and bridging with radical difference. They live in Nashville, Tennessee.Web: drrobynhendersonespinoza.comActivist Theology Porch Twitter: @irobynInstagram: @irobynFacebook: /drirobynGuest Music byYou can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $3/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. Follow the show:Facebook, Twitter, StoreAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptMy faith has grown leaps and bounds And with it so has my understanding of just how little I know about Easter. There is no greater moment in our faith and arguably in the world than the resurrection of Jesus. In a moment in time the world swapped its axis and forever changed. So too has our knowledge of the beautiful history surrounding our celebration with our brothers and sisters in the faith in Easter. How should we posture our hearts, daily, in reflection upon a magnificent moment in time.  Guest: Alexander ShaiaAlexander was born and raised in Birmingham, AL. Studied at Notre Dame and then went on the same quest we all do to navigate our life and our faith together and the result is disarmingly beautiful. Please go and get his latest book Heart and Mind (Second Edition) you will be pleased that you did. Sit back, take some notes and lets talk about Jesus!Heart and Mind: The Four-Gospel Journey for Radical Transformation:  AmazonConnect with Alexander on Facebook, as well as https://www.quadratos.com/.Special Music for this episode was provided by Matt Tipton. Tracks include: Blessed, But God, and As One from the album Ephesians.Find their music on iTunes, YouTube as well as Spotify as well as FacebookCheck out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $3/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. Follow the show:Facebook, Twitter, Store Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptGuest Bio:A.J. Hendry is a Youth Development Worker and housing advocate, working in the Youth Housing and Homelessness space. He leads a service supporting rangatahi experiencing homelessness and is also an advocate working collectively to end youth homelessness in Aotearoa NZ. He is also the curator and creator of the blog and podcast When Lambs Are Silent, where he explores the intersection between faith and justice.The Links https://whenlambsaresilent.wordpress.com/The Socials: InstagramGuest Music by Salt of the SoundYou can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $3/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. Follow the show:Facebook, Twitter, StoreAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptYou and I are being, and becoming all at once in a constant state of being healed. Guest Bio:Mako Nagasawa is the founder, Executive Director of the Anástasis Center. He grew up in Cerritos, CA and went north to Stanford, where he studied Industrial Engineering and Public Policy, with a focus on education. He worked at Intel Corp for 6 years while serving a Spanish-speaking ministry to Mexican immigrants in East Palo Alto, CA. He married Ming in May, 1999 and moved to Boston, MA. He then worked for two startup companies trying to bring technology and jobs to inner city communities. Since 2000, Mako, Ming, and their two children John and Zoe have lived among friends in a Christian intentional community house in a black and brown neighborhood in Dorchester. Mako has authored or contributed to the following books:Abortion Policy and Christian Social Ethics in the United States (Wipf and Stock Publishers, 2021), see Facebook author pageHonor, Shame, and the Gospel: Reframing Our Message for 21st Century Ministry (William Carey Publishing, 2020) chapter “How to Empower Personal Healing and Social Justice, with Medical Substitutionary Atonement”NIV God’s Justice Study Bible (2016) commentary on Ezekiel Lazarus at the Gate: Economic Discipleship Curriculum (2007) with Dr. Gary VanderPol and Rachel AndersonThe Links: www.anastasiscenter.org/The Socials: FB, Instagram, TwitterGuest Music by Heath McNeaseYou can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $3/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. Follow the show:Facebook, Twitter, StoreAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptYou belong, you have community, you are loved.Guest Bio:Amber Cantorna is a national speaker and storyteller supporting LGBTQ people through their coming out process and educating people on the importance of full inclusion. Most often known as the gay daughter of a 30-year Focus on the Family executive, Amber lost everything when she came out in 2012. This all-too-often narrative has made Amber passionate about dissolving shame, fostering self-acceptance, and generating messages of hope for LGBTQ+ people and their families, especially those from conservative faith backgrounds.In 2020, she founded the Unashamed Love Collective ~ a private member-based online community for LGBTQ+ people and allies to learn, grow, and support.She’s the author of Unashamed: A Coming-Out Guide for LGBTQ Christians (WJK Press, 2019) and Refocusing My Family: Coming Out, Being Cast Out, and Discovering the True Love of God” (Fortress Press, 2017).The Links: https://www.ambercantorna.comThe Socials: FB, Instagram, TwitterGuest Music by Forrest ClayYou can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $3/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. Follow the show:Facebook, Twitter, StoreAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptRe-membering the church through history and our lineage. This is a powerful conversation from a powerful story of Lisa's family.Guest Bio:Lisa Sharon Harper is the founder of Freedom Road, a consulting group dedicated to shrinking the narrative gap. Harper has written several books including the critically acclaimed The Very Good Gospel: How Everything Wrong Can Be Made Right. Her work has been featured in the New Yorker, Relevant, Essence, HuggPost, the National Civic Review, and CNN, and she has appeared on PBS's Religion & Ethics NewsWeekly, TV One, Fox News, NPR, and Al Jazeera America.The Links: https://lisasharonharper.com/The Socials: FB, Instagram, TwitterGuest Music by Salt of the SoundYou can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $3/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. Follow the show:Facebook, Twitter, StoreAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptCandice joins the show to discuss some of what makes up #RedLipTheology with one another, #rideordieGuest Bio:Candice Marie Benbow is a theologian, essayist, columnist, baker, and educator whose work gives voice to Black women’s shared experiences of faith, healing, and wholeness. Named by Sojourners as one of “10 Christian Women Shaping the Church in 2020,” she has written for Essence, Glamour, The Root, VICE, Shondaland, Madame Noire, and the Me Too Movement. Candice created the “Lemonade Syllabus” social media campaign, founded the media boutique Zion Hill Media Group, and, in memory of her mother, established The LouiseMarie Foundation to support HBCU nursing students and community mental health projects. A member of Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc., Candice holds degrees from Tennessee State University, North Carolina Central University, and Duke Divinity School.The Links: https://candicebenbow.com/Guest Music by Salt of the SoundYou can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $3/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. Follow the show:Facebook, Twitter, StoreAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptWhat is it to die and become?Guest Bio:Amy Frykholm is an award-winning writer, scholar, and journalist whose nonfiction works cover the territory of American religion from apocalyptists to saints. A senior editor for The Christian Century magazine, she appears frequently on television and radio programs as an expert in American religion. After receiving her PhD from Duke University, she went on to write several books, including Rapture Culture: Left Behind in Evangelical America and Julian of Norwich: A Contemplative Biography. She lives in Leadville, Colorado.Find Amy at https://amyfrykholm.com/index.html or Facebook / Instagram / Twitter Links:Guest Music by Provoke WonderYou can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $3/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. Follow the show:Facebook, Twitter, StoreAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l  Episode TranscriptGuest: Daniel HillHow pervasive is white supremacy? How offended were you when you just read that last sentence? It's so pervasive that it's considered the baseline and that is part of our problem. How we does the Church and our culture learn to embrace theologies that aren't inherently elevating "whiteness". We as a church and a society have to stop ignoring race but must further educate ourselves and then act in accordance with that.Bio:Daniel Hill is the founding and senior pastor of River City Community Church, a vibrant, multiethnic church in the Humboldt Park neighborhood of Chicago. He is the author of 10:10: Life to the Fullest and White AwakeYou can follow Daniel on Twitter @danielhill1336Prior to starting River City, Daniel worked in the business world before serving five years on the staff of Willow Creek Community Church in the Chicago suburbs. He has a business degree from Purdue University, an MA in theology from Moody Bible Institute, a certificate in church-based community and economic development from Harvard Divinity School, and a DMin from Northern Baptist Theological Seminary. He is married to Elizabeth, who is a professor of psychology, and they are the proud parents of two children.Special Music for this episode was provided by musician Erik NiederTracks include: There's a River, For Heaven's Sake, When Grace Called My Name, AdoreFind his music and socials:iTunes, YouTube, Instagram, as well as Spotify as well as Facebook, Twitter and at eriknieder.comYou can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $3/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. Follow the show:Facebook, Twitter, Store Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptWe've come along way as a species when it comes to science and faith but still, I think, so often miss it entirely. We assume one should do the job of the other and grow fearful when it can't. Listen in as Janet and I begin to open up what it's like to view science in a new light.Guest Bio:Janet Ray is an enthusiastic science communicator. She blogs at JanetKRay.com and on Facebook, focusing on contemporary issues in science, medicine, and faith - and she loves the perfect storm of all three at once!Janet holds a Ph.D. in curriculum and instruction, with seventeen years of university teaching, both biology majors and non-majors. Janet is the author of Baby Dinosaurs on the Ark? The Bible and Modern Science and the Trouble of Making It All Fit  (Eerdmans, 2021).Raised a creationist, Janet is a science educator and a practicing Christian who accepts evolution. She is uniquely equipped to explain evolution to questioners, doubters, deniers, and those who just want to know more about the science of origins.Guest Music by Remedy DriveYou can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $3/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. Follow the show:Facebook, Twitter, StoreAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptHave we made echo chambers our new idols? Progressives and Fundamentalists alike seem to think they've cornered the market on what church is, what God's Kingdom is, and why it matters...Guest Bio:Jason Miller is the founder and lead pastor of South Bend City Church, an eclectic Christian community known for its thoughtful teaching, inclusive vision, and commitment to its city context. An advocate for artists and peacemakers, his work beyond South Bend focuses on cultural headwaters and conflict zones, where he serves an international constituency of leaders. He holds a master’s degree in theology from the University of Notre Dame. His first book with Worthy Publishing will release in May 2023.Find him at jasonadammiller.com or on Instagram at @jasonadammillerLinks:Guest Music by Forrest ClayYou can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $3/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. Follow the show:Facebook, Twitter, StoreAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptA conversation on disabilities, the churches uneasiness with it, the prosperity gospel and so much more.Guest Bio:Stephanie Tait wears many hats. Blogger, speaker, author, wife, mother, Jesus follower. Her fifteen-years and counting battle with Lyme disease has reshaped her view on the goodness of God. She makes her home in Oregon, where she lives with her husband and two children. She shares her stories at stephanietaitwrites.com.Grab her Book right Here:Guest Music by Salt of the SoundYou can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $3/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. Follow the show:https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/https://twitter.com/cistacpodcasthttps://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l GlowEach episode this year has brought an answer to a question that I think is so big. That question..."when we say God what are we actually trying to say?". Here are those answers, in part.Guest Music by Forrest ClayYou can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. Follow the show:Facebook, Twitter, StoreAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Enjoy this re-release of a past episode here at Christmas with my friend Alexander John Shaia Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript l SurveyChristmas is such a glorious time of year but how much do we know of how and why we do it like we do? What are the origins of many of our traditions? Santa, trees, lights, candlelight services...why?Guest Bio:Born and raised in Birmingham, Alabama, Alexander grew up as part of a large extended family that had emigrated from Lebanon a generation previously. He grew up with the ancient traditions of Maronite Catholicism and was expected to become a priest, a family tradition since the year 1300. Alexander was led otherwise.He attended the University of Notre Dame and received a degree in Cultural Anthropology. Next came a Master's in Counseling Education, a Master's in Religious Education, a graduate certificate in Pastoral Psychotherapy, and a Ph.D. in Clinical Psychology. His training includes time in Switzerland with Jungian analyst, and founder of Sandplay Psychotherapy, Dora M. Kalff. Returning to the United States, years of retreat ministry, private practice, teaching, leading trainings and study continued to build on a life-long practice of prayer.Visit his website at www.quadratos.comGuest Music by JJ HellerTracks include: Jesu, Joy of Man's Desiring & Silent Night, Unto Us, Born in MeYou can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $3/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. Follow the show:https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/https://twitter.com/cistacpodcasthttps://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/ Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptWhat the heck even is the hyphen in Judeo-Christian...made up mostly but still worth digging into.Guest Bio:Rabbi Avi Finegold has been teaching Jews and Judaism around North America for almost two decades. He completed his undergraduate studies at Concordia and did graduate work at the University of Chicago, and received a Certificate in Jewish Leadership from the Spertus Institute. He is a founding Chair of Limmud Chicago and served on the LeMood Montreal team. He received his ordination from Yeshivat Noam Hatorah in Montreal under the direction of Rabbi Joshua Shmidman.Rabbi Finegold is committed to open, inclusive Judaism, which inspired him to found the Jewish Learning Lab in 2013, which has now evolved into the Jewish Living Lab. Grounded in his belief that you can be a great Jew and still enjoy an espresso, Rabbi Finegold is committed to helping people be the best Jewish version of themselves.Dr Stephen Backhouse is the founder and director of Tent Theology. He is a political theologian, church historian and expert on the life and thought of Søren Kierkegaard. He is the host of the Tent Theology Podcast.Links:https://www.tenttheology.com/about/https://jewishlivinglab.com/hyphen/Guest Music by The Silver PagesYou can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $3/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. Follow the show:Facebook, Twitter, StoreAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

As expressed in last weeks episode this month of my life has found myself way behind; to far behind. With that in mind I hope you love this oldie from the first season of the show. Episode TranscriptWhat is it like to live in a world where you never really know if you can trust and believe what you are being told. What happens when the train derails? How does our local church help and which local church should you be attending? Guest Bio:Austin Fischer is the Lead Pastor at Vista Community Church in Temple, TX. He is a graduate of Truett Seminary at Baylor University. He is the author of "Young, Restless, No Longer Reformed"; with a new work coming out later this year. He writes and speaks and you can follow him online at purpletheology.comGuest Socials:Twitter: @AustinTFischerWeb: www.purpletheology.com Special Music for this episode was provided by Landry Cantrell. Tracks include: Before You, Gravity, and Fade OutMore information can be gotten right here: landrycantrell.comYou can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. I am so grateful for you and want to invite you to become a part of the beloved community being developed here. Consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurchAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptJim and I discuss a bit about being, the Gospels, and of all things bicameral brains.Guest Bio:James P. Danaher, Ph.D. is Professor of Philosophy and Head of the Philosophy Department at Nyack College, Nyack, NY. He is the author of Contemplative Prayer (Cascade, 2011), Jesus After Modernity (Pickwick, 2011), Eyes that See, Ears that Hear (Liquori, 2006), Postmodern Christianity and the Reconstruction of the Christian Mind (Academica Press, 2001), and over seventy articles that have appeared in a variety of philosophy and theology journals.http://www.jamespdanaher.com/Guest Music by The Silver PagesYou can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $3/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. Follow the show:Facebook, Twitter, StoreAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptNetflix has a show called Midnight Mass...it needs to be discussed.Guest Bio:JR. Forasteros is on an eternal quest to smoke the perfect brisket. He pastors Catalyst Church in Dallas, TX. He is the author of Empathy for the Devil, available from InterVarsity Press. He co-hosts the Fascinating Podcast and In All Things Charity (the best Wesleyan Feminist Theology podcast on the web). He announces for Assassination City Roller Derby, where his wife Amanda skates as Mother Terrorista. When he grows up, he wants to be the Unbeatable Squirrel Girl, or die historic on the Fury Road. Guest Bio:Kathy Khang is a speaker, journalist, and activist. She has worked in campus ministry for more than twenty years, with expertise in issues of gender, ethnicity, justice, and leadership development. She is a columnist for Sojourners magazine, a writer for Faith & Leadership, and a coauthor of More Than Serving Tea: Asian American Women on Expectations, Relationships, Leadership and Faith.Guest Music by Heath McNeaseYou can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $3/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. Follow the show:Facebook, Twitter, StoreAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptBrandon joins the show to discuss his latest book. I don't say this lightly, it's good (the book) ...and this episode isn't bad either. Small spoilers ahead.Guest Bio:Brandon is the author of What Can’t Be Hidden (2021) and bestselling Beauty in the Wreckage: Finding Peace in the Age of Outrage. As a freelance writer, he has contributed his work to Relevant Magazine, ReKnew, and Zondervan. Brandon lives in Columbus, Indiana and is a graduate of Hanover College in Psychology with an MBA from Indiana Wesleyan University.Find him at brandonandress.comGuest Socials:Facebook, Twitter @brandonandress , Instagram, VenmoGuest Music by Heath McNeaseYou can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $3/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. Follow the show:Facebook, Twitter, StoreAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptDanté and I discuss some of the stories from his book and a path to move forward.Guest Bio:Danté Stewart is a speaker and a writer whose work in the areas of race, religion, and politics has been featured on CNN and in The Washing Post, Christianity Today, Sojourners, The Witness: A Black Christian Collective, Comment, and elsewhere. He received his BA in sociology from Clemson University and is currently studying at the Candler School of theology at Emory University in Atlanta, Georgia.Find him at dantecstewart.comGuest Music by The Silver PagesYou can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $3/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. Follow the show:Facebook, Twitter, StoreAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptBegotten...not begotten. What the heck does that even mean?Guest Bio:Dr. Jacobs is Scholar in Residence at Vanderbilt. He holds degrees in Philosophy, Historical & Systematic Theology, & Church History. He's published 3 books & 30+ refereed articles. His specializations include modern philosophy & Eastern patrology. Nathan's Substack can be found right here. Guest Music by The Silver PagesYou can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $3/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. Follow the show:Facebook, Twitter, StoreAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptGuest: Professor Soong-Chan RahWhat would it mean for our church to actually think and embrace a new way to Evangelize others. The future of our church is hinged on this question. How do we talk about Christ and Church when we have no justice, and we show graciously small amounts of love? How can we begin to address this? Professor Rah and I have the opportunity to discuss. Bio:Rev. Dr. Soong-Chan Rah is Milton B. Engebretson Associate Professor of Church Growth and Evangelism at North Park Theological Seminary in Chicago, IL and the author of The Next Evangelicalism: Freeing the Church from Western Cultural Captivity (IVP Books, 2009).Rah is formerly the founding Senior Pastor of the Cambridge Community Fellowship Church (CCFC), a multi-ethnic, urban ministry-focused church committed to living out the values of racial reconciliation and social justice in the urban context. Soong-Chan has previously been part of a church planting team in the Washington DC area, worked for a number of years with IVCF in Boston (specifically at MIT), and had mobilized CCFC to plant two additional churches.He currently serves on the board of Catalyst Leadership Center and Sojourners/Call to Renewal. He has been an active member of the Boston Ten-Point Coalition (an urban ministry working with at-risk youth) and is a founding member of the Boston Fellowship of Asian-American Ministers. He has extensive experience in cross-cultural preaching as well as on numerous college campuses. Soong-Chan was a plenary speaker at the 2003 Urbana Student Missions Conference, the 2005 Summer Institute for Asian American Ministry and Theology, the 2006 Congress on Urban Ministry, the 2007 ECC Midwinter Conference, the 2007 Urban Youth Workers Institute Conference and the 2008 CCDA National Conference.Find his books right here on AmazonConnect with Prof Rah on Facebook, Twitter: @profrah as well as http://www.profrah.com/Follow the Show on Twitter: @CISTACPodcast and Facebook Special Music for this episode was provided by Brett Lee MIller from the Album: Topography.Tracks include: Romance, Remain, Texture, and In UsFind his music on iTunes, YouTube as well as Spotify as well Instagram and Facebook, Twitter and at http://brettleemiller.com/You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. If you are here I am so grateful for you and want to invite you to become a part of the beloved community being developed here. Consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $3/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. http://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurchAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptWho doesn't love donuts, especially when it's a Jesus donut.Guest Bio:Gabriel Gordon graduated with a double major in Anthropology and Cross-Cultural Ministry from Oklahoma Baptist University. He is currently working on his Master of Theological Studies with a specialization in Biblical Studies from Portland Seminary. In addition he is a confirmed member of the Episcopal church part of the worldwide Anglican Communion; and one of the co-founders of The Misfits Theology Club, a blog, podcast, and annual conference dedicated to providing a place of dialogue and working to build unity amongst diverse Christians. He currently lives in Grand Junction, Colorado, with his wife Hannah, and his dog Karl Barth.Guest Music by The Silver PagesYou can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $3/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. Follow the show:Facebook, Twitter, StoreAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptIt's time to dive in a bit into some of the works of George MacDonaldCheck out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even a few bucks a month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurchFollow the show:https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/https://twitter.com/cistacpodcasthttps://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptPastors like Wendy make me so hopeful for our faith.Guest Bio:Wendy Hudson is the pastor of Two Rivers Church in Charleston, South Carolina. An ordained United Methodist pastor for 17 years, she has served congregations in both the Eastern Pennsylvania and South Carolina Annual Conferences, focusing on turnaround and revitalizing church communities. Before entering seminary, she served as a young adult missionary through the Board of Global Ministries, funded in large part by the United Methodist Women.Guest Music by The Silver PagesYou can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $3/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. Follow the show:Facebook, Twitter, StoreAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptA conversation about how we handle the stories of Scripture and how changing the lens of the words can make things so much grander.Guest Bio:Terry M. Wildman (Ojibwe and Yaqui) is the lead translator, general editor, and project manager of the First Nations Version. He serves as the director of spiritual growth and leadership development for Native InterVarsity. He is also the founder of Rain Ministries and has previously served as a pastor and worship leader. He and his wife, Darlene, live in Arizona.Connect with Terry at: Web, Twitter, Facebook, InstagramGuest Music byYou can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $3/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. Follow the show:Facebook, Twitter, StoreAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptWe need voices like Julie's. They remind us where we are and where we've been and if we hear each other we both become bigger humans because of it.Guest Bio:Julie Rodgers is the author of Outlove: A Queer Christian Survival Story. She played a significant role in shutting down Exodus International, the largest conversion therapy organization in the world, and she was the first openly gay person to be hired by an evangelical Christian college. She is featured in Pray Away (2020), a documentary about the movement to pray the gay away. Her writing has been featured in The New York Times, The Washington Post, and Time. If you’re into queer reflections on faith, public life, and chosen family, then subscribe to her newsletter Reimagining Belonging.Follow Julie at the places: Web, Twitter, Facebook, InstagramGuest Music by Forrest ClayYou can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $3/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. Follow the show:Facebook, Twitter, StoreAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptMark and I dive into inclusion with the lens of Mark and Acts. It's so not what you think.Guest Bio:Mark Charles is a speaker, writer, and consultant. Mark teaches the complexities of American history regarding race, culture, and Christendom in order to help forge a path of healing and conciliation for the nation. He is the co-author of the book Unsettling Truths: The Ongoing, Dehumanizing Legacy of the Doctrine of Discovery.Follow Mark at Twitter, Facebook, Youtube, InstagramGuest Music by The Silver PagesYou can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $3/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. Follow the show:Facebook, Twitter, StoreAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

 Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript Baptism is so much more than a one time thing. It is a call and public display of a response to lean into communities of faith.Guest Bio:Born and raised in Birmingham, Alabama, Alexander grew up as part of a large extended family that had emigrated from Lebanon a generation previously. He grew up with the ancient traditions of Maronite Catholicism and was expected to become a priest, a family tradition since the year 1300. Alexander was led otherwise.He attended the University of Notre Dame and received a degree in Cultural Anthropology. Next came a Master's in Counseling Education, a Master's in Religious Education, a graduate certificate in Pastoral Psychotherapy, and a Ph.D. in Clinical Psychology. His training includes time in Switzerland with Jungian analyst, and founder of Sandplay Psychotherapy, Dora M. Kalff. Returning to the United States, years of retreat ministry, private practice, teaching, leading trainings and study continued to build on a life-long practice of prayer.Visit his website at www.quadratos.comGuest Music by Remedy DriveTracks include: Jesu, Joy of Man's Desiring & Silent Night, Unto Us, Born in MeYou can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. Follow the show:https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/https://twitter.com/cistacpodcasthttps://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/ Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptJust look around you. This world we share is truly something to behold when we hold one anotherGuest Bio: David is a founding member, singer, writer for the band Remedy Drive. He serves currently as a volunteer with the Exodus Road. He's an abolitionist, musician, and human rights advocate. David and his band, Remedy Drive, are using music to help make a free world. This rock band travels the states to perform concerts while advocating and raising funds to fight slavery. Not only are many of their songs focused on abolition and justice.Special Music for this episode was provided by Remedy Drive from their most recent The North Start. Tracks include: Brighter than Apathy, Polaris, Warlike, Redemption Song, Sunlight On Her FaceFind the music, YouTube, Instagram as well as Spotify as well as Facebook, Twitter and at https://www.remedydrive.com/You can get involved and partnership with the Exodus Road right here. MerchYou can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Follow the Show:Facebook / Twitter / InstagramI am so grateful for you and want to invite you to become a part of the beloved community being developed here. Consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $3/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurchSupport the show through the storeAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

From the #waybackmachine I hope you enjoy this rereleased chat that Jared and I had. I still reference this one quite often.Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptIs the Bible inerrant? This is a huge question and one that matters for our faith. If it's not what does this do for authority and how should we read it? Guest Bio:Jared studied under Dr. Peter Enns in the early 2000s, he was also a teaching pastor and professor near Philadelphia, teaching courses and developing curricula in philosophy, ethics, & biblical studies. In 2011 he launched a creative solutions company and in 2013 had the opportunity to partner with an old friend to launch Experience Institute, an experience-based gxraduate program in Chicago.Somewhere in there dictatorial Dr. Peter Enns became a dear friend and in 2012, Jared had the privilege, with Pete, to co-author Genesis for Normal People. Now, he writes regularly on peteenns.com because Pete clearly needed a celebrity with a huge platform to help boost page views. Pete and Jared have also started a podcast called The Bible For Normal People, which is well worth your listen. You can follow Jared on Facebook or on Twitter at @jbyas.You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. I am so grateful for you and want to invite you to become a part of the beloved community being developed here. Consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $3/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurchSupport the show through the storeAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptWhen we truly see one another we find there's an amazing amount of room at the table for us all.Guest Bios:Suzie Lahoud holds two master’s degrees in Middle Eastern Studies; from the Arab Baptist Theological Seminary in Beirut and Harvard University. She earned her bachelor’s degree magna cum laude from Duke University with a double-major in Russian and Middle Eastern Studies. During her time at Harvard, she was selected, as a grant recipient through the Ramez and Tiziana Sousou Fund, to join a group of 13 students from across Harvard’s graduate schools to travel to Jordan and embark on an assessment of the dilemmas facing humanitarian actors responding to the war in Syria. She was also the recipient of the best thesis prize for her department. Suzie is a published author and has over a decade of experience living and working overseas, most recently having spent five years in Lebanon managing relief and development projects for refugee and internally displaced populations in Lebanon, Syria, and Iraq.Sy Hoekstra is a former attorney who worked as a public defender in the child welfare system in New York City. Before that, he was a Staff Attorney at the United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit. Sy graduated cum laude from New York University School of Law in 2014. During law school, he worked in the fields of criminal justice and disability rights. In 2010, he earned his bachelor’s degree in History and German literature from Columbia University. After graduating from Columbia, he spent a year organizing college students for political advocacy in Washington, DC with International Justice Mission. Sy was born in North Dakota, grew up in the Midwest and Northeast, lived for several years as a teenager in Zurich, Switzerland, and now lives in New York City with his wife.Jonathan Walton is a Senior Resource Specialist with InterVarsity's Multi-Ethnic Initiatives Department. He leads InterVarsity's Experiential Discipleship Team which exists to develop and commission leaders with the character and capacity to partner with God to change the world. Experiential Discipleship and Spiritual Formation are key components to making sure that happens. He lives in Queens with his wife, two daughters and dog. God called him to IV in 2011 for 20 years. He appreciates the opportunities to share with those desiring to cross the bridge between the haves and have nots in spiritual and material resources the way that Jesus did. He has written and edited 5 books, including Twelve Lies that Hold America Captive and the Truth that Sets us Free.Special Music for this episode was provided by Remedy DriveYou can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. I am so grateful for you and want to invite you to become a part of the beloved community being developed here. Consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $3/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurchSupport the show through the storeAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptWhen your spiritual leaders are flaunting wealth in such an opulent way that you can't help but wonder why these Preachers are in these Sneakers. Why are we the way we are.Guest Bio:Ben Kirby is the creator of the viral social media sensation PreachersNSneakers, where he caused an uproar across the globe after showing the values of what clothing preachers were wearing on stage. Along with growing from zero to hundreds of thousands of followers in just a few weeks, his work has been featured in the New York Times, The New Yorker, The Wallstreet Journal, Buzzfeed, Fox News, Complex, and many more. He also hosts the popular podcast with the ultra-creative name The PreachersNSneakers Podcast.Photo Credit: Grant DanielsGuest Socials:Instagram, Twitter, Web, FacebookSpecial Music for this episode was provided by Heath McNeaseYou can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. I am so grateful for you and want to invite you to become a part of the beloved community being developed here. Consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $3/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurchAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptIn a follow up to the last episode and discussion on Hell in this episode we'll take another look at, another, possible theory on Hell, Annihilationism-though some have called it Conditionalism. We are joined by Dr. John Stackhouse; he was educated in history and religious studies at Mount Carmel Bible School at Queen’s University in Ontario, Wheaton College Graduate School in Illinois, and The University of Chicago (Ph.D.). Music provided by Heath McNeaseYou can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. I am so grateful for you and want to invite you to become a part of the beloved community being developed here. Consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $3/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurchAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptWe are running around, as a church body, giving away bikes but teaching no-one how to ride. All at the same time that we pat ourselves on the backs for doing it.Guest Bio:Terence Lester is a minister, speaker, community activist, author, and founder of Love Beyond Walls, a not-for-profit organization focused on poverty awareness and community mobilization. His campaigns on behalf of the poor, including #LoveSinksIn, have been featured in USA Today, Black Enterprise Essence, and Reader's Digest. They have been viewed by millions of people globally on The Today Show, Good Morning America, CBS News, NBC, Upworthy, and "The Bright Side" with Katie Couric. His books include I See You, Getting Past Stuck, Simple Prayers for Hurting People, and Identity Theft.Find the Blog we referenced around Hair and Identity hereGuest Socials:Instagram, Twitter, WebSpecial Music for this episode was provided by Remedy DriveYou can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. I am so grateful for you and want to invite you to become a part of the beloved community being developed here. Consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $3/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurchAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptWe can focus on what breaks us, each of us. Or we can realize that what we have to say matters. We are all here and we are making one another what we are.Guest Bio:Propaganda received degrees in illustration and intercultural studies before dedicating his life to hip-hop and poetry. He cohosts The Red Couch podcast with his wife, Dr. Alma Zaragoza-Petty, and hosts Hood Politics with Prop on the iHeartMedia network. His upcoming album, Terraform, will be released in 2021.Find him at https://www.prophiphop.com Special Music for this episode was provided by Forrest ClayYou can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. I am so grateful for you and want to invite you to become a part of the beloved community being developed here. Consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $3/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurchAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptHow do the books of Song of Songs, Ecclesiastes, Ruth, Lamentations, and Esther impact the daily rhythms of your life? I'll be honest to say they usually don't because I forget they are there and because our churches don't regularly preach them; this must be addressed! Guest Bio:Robert Williamson Jr. is an associate professor of religious studies at Hendrix College in Conway, Arkansas, where he teaches courses in biblical studies. He is also the founding pastor of Mercy Community Church of Little Rock, a multi-denominational worshiping community that welcomes all people–especially those living on the streets. As both a scholar and pastor, Robert is interested in the ways that the Bible speaks to life in the contemporary world; particularly about the call the Bible places on Christians to resist the powers of systemic injustice that oppress the many in order to enrich the few. Guest Socials:Twitter: @RWilliamsonjrFacebook: Robert Williamson Jr. AuthorWeb: robertwilliamsonjr.comSpecial Music for this episode was provided by The Silver PagesYou can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. I am so grateful for you and want to invite you to become a part of the beloved community being developed here. Consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurchAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptJeromy, Jennifer, and I have a chat about life, marriage, faith, missions, and the character of God. Guest Bio:Jeromy Deibler and his wife, Jennifer, have been writing and recording music together for 20 years, and their Dove Award-winning band, FFH, enjoyed great influence with seven #1 singles and almost 2 million records sold.Jeromy and Jennifer have two kids, Hutch and Sadie-Claire, and two dogs, Fritz and Winnie.Find more about return and rest right here: https://www.returnandrest.org/Guest Socials:https://linktr.ee/jeromyshawndeibler Music this week by FFH and Jeromy Shawn DeiblerYou can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations - just $3/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurchFollow the show:https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/https://twitter.com/cistacpodcasthttps://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Episode TranscriptWho was the Apostle Paul? We've all heard talk about him and around him but the man himself, rarely. Much of our New Testament is here today because of him but who was the man? What more can we learn from Paul separate of only his theology? NT Wright and I discuss in brief.Guest Bio:N.T. Wright is the former Bishop of Durham in the Church of England and one of the world’s leading Bible scholars. He now serves as the Chair of New Testament and Early Christianity at the School of Divinity at the University of St. Andrews. He is one of the world’s leading Bible scholars and a popular author, he has been featured on ABC News, Dateline, The Colbert Report, and Fresh Air. His award-winning books include The Case for the Psalms, How God Became King, Simply Jesus, After You Believe, The Meaning of Jesus (co-authored with Marcus Borg), as well as being the translator for The Kingdom New Testament. The book this discussion was centered around is his most recent release on Paul. Paul: A BiographyCourses you heard about at the end of the show can be found here: http://ntwrightonline.org/Special Music for this episode was provided by Sleeping at Last. Tracks include: The Spring, In Her Honor, and Enabling Environment from the Album The SpringFind Sleeping at last music at sleepingatlast.com. Please consider supporting the ministry of Charity Water! Find information about how you can help at https://www.charitywater.org/You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. If you are here I am so grateful for you and want to invite you to become a part of the beloved community being developed here. Consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurchAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptCalled for something more...we are called for something more. Something good. Sho and I discuss what we are in our essence. Guest Bio:Sho Baraka is a globally recognized recording artist, performer, culture curator, activist, and writer. Sho’s work combines his artistic platform with his academic history to contribute a unique perspective, elevating the contemporary conversation on faith, art, and culture. An alumnus of Tuskegee University and the University of North Texas, Sho is a cofounder of Forth District and the AND Campaign, and he has served as an adjunct professor at Wake Forest School of Divinity. He was also an original member of influential hip-hop consortium 116 Clique, recording with Reach Records. Sho lives in Atlanta with his wife Patreece and their three children.Guest Socials:https://www.barakaology.comFacebook, Twitter, Instagram, YouTubeMusic this week by Sho BarakaYou can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations - just $3/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurchFollow the show:https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/https://twitter.com/cistacpodcasthttps://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptIt’s time to take it back by reclaiming the poetry of the ancient tradition of Scripture. And that’s what The Butterflies in God’s Stomach is all about. The Bible is so much more than piles of text of which we get dogma...it's a love story. Guest Bio: Paul spent the first half of his adult life helping people gain access to safe, clean drinking water. It was great work, but he realized it was part of something bigger, something that involves you, and the influence you’ll have—whether you like it or not—in deciding the destiny of heaven and earth. For the first time ever, we could actually end the story of life on earth by environmental degradation, nuclear war, artificial intelligence gone awry, or one of the dozen deaths we’ll invent next year. The only way to avoid death and destruction is to find ourselves a love story, and get engaged.That’s what the Bible is about, but religious dogmatists have stolen it from the poets, prophets, and people who wrote it, and about whose it was written. It’s time to take it back by reclaiming the poetry of the ancient tradition of Scripture. And that’s what The Butterflies in God’s Stomach is all about. Get more information about the upcoming Book at http://butterfliesbook.com/Guest Socials: https://www.paulthomasauthor.com/, https://www.facebook.com/PaulThomasAuthor/, YouTube,Music Provided by Kings Kaleidoscope. Find more of their music at kingskaleidoscope.com.Tracks Included: You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurchAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptIf we can't pivot to be able to have conversations that matter in our faith communities then it's probable that we no longer will have them. This posture requires Brave Churches.Guest Bio:Elizabeth Hagan is a pastor, speaker, and author who believes in the power of living and sharing authentic and vulnerable stories.Guest Socials:https://elizabethhagan.com/Facebook, Twitter, InstagramMusic this week by Remedy DriveYou can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $3/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurchFollow the show:https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/https://twitter.com/cistacpodcasthttps://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptIt's time to dive in a bit into some of the works of George MacDonaldCheck out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurchFollow the show:https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/https://twitter.com/cistacpodcasthttps://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/ Transcript for today's episodeAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptThe world is a crazy place. We are constantly pointing the finger at one another in an ever ceasing blame game; what happens when we instead of blame choose to love?Guest Bio:Jeremy Courtney is cofounder and executive director of the Preemptive Love Coalition (PLC), an international development and peacemaking organization based in Iraq. PLC provides lifesaving heart surgeries to Iraqi children and trains local doctors and nurses. He is the author of Preemptive Love: Pursuing Peace One Heart at a Time.Music this week by The CollectionYou can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurchFollow the show:https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/https://twitter.com/cistacpodcasthttps://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/ Transcript for today's episodeAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptMusic has a way to move us to emotions that we can't describe with words alone; it's a liminal space between us and the divine. Cameron Hood and Ryan GreenGuest Bio:Green and Hood currently reside in their hometown of Tucson, Arizona, where they have won more than a dozen Tucson Music Awards including “Best Folk Band” and “Best Rock Band” (you can decide for yourself which is most accurate).Find all the things for Ryanhood right hereGuest Music by RyanhoodYou can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $3/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. Follow the show:Facebook, Twitter, StoreAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptJemar and I discuss some of the themes from his latest bookGuest Bio:Jemar Tisby is the author of the New York Times bestseller, The Color of Compromise, president and co-found of The Witness: A Black Christian Collective, and co-host of the podcast, Pass The Mic.Guest Music by Remedy DriveYou can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $3/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. Follow the show:Facebook, Twitter, StoreAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptAnd now we might begin to realize that we've put God in a cage of our own making. How insane is that?Guest Bio:Diana Butler Bass, Ph.D., is an award-winning author, popular speaker, inspiring preacher, and one of America’s most trusted commentators on religion and contemporary spirituality. Guest Music by Remedy DriveYou can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $3/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. Follow the show:Facebook, Twitter, StoreAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptI sit down with Andy to discuss faith, the church, miracles, and doubt. Guest Bio:Andy Squyres was born and raised in Santa cruz California but since '99 has made his home in Charlotte North Carolina and feels as home in the south as he has anywhere. His ongoing wrestling match with the creator of the universe is the thematic motivation in his music. He loves David Byrne, David Lynch and bass fishing.Find him at https://andysquyres.com/Guest Music by Andy SquyresYou can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $3/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. Follow the show:Facebook, Twitter, StoreAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptWe all bear the name of God but it is in realizing this that we find such grace.Guest Bio:Carmen and her husband, Danny, have served overseas as missionaries with SIM. They have three children. Her dissertation is published under the title Bearing YHWH’s Name at Sinai: A Re-Examination of the Name Command of the Decalogue (Eisenbrauns). She has also released the results of her research in a book for lay people entitled Bearing God’s Name: Why Sinai Still Matters (IVP). Carmen is an active member of the Evangelical Theological Society, the Institute for Biblical Research, the Society of Biblical Literature, and the Canadian Society of Biblical Studies. Although she enjoys hanging out with other Bible geeks at conferences, her passion is to help the Bible come alive for laypeople. Carmen blogs at www.carmenjoyimes.blogspot.com, Christianity Today, and The Well (InterVarsity). She also releases weekly Torah Tuesday videos on her YouTube channel. Guest Music by Remedy DriveYou can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $3/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. Follow the show:Facebook, Twitter, StoreAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptWe all pray, even when we are unaware of it. Learning to realize this is everything.Guest Bio:The Rev. James Martin, S.J., is a Jesuit priest, author and editor at large at America.Follow @JamesmartinsjGuest Music by Salt of the SoundYou can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $3/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. Follow the show:Facebook, Twitter, StoreAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptRarely in my life has my mind been blown in this way.Guest Bio:Oregon-raised and now based in Durham, NC, Elizabeth "Libbie" Schrader is a doctoral candidate in Early Christianity at Duke University. Her studies focus on Mary Magdalene, the Gospel of John, textual criticism, and feminist theology. Schrader has recently transitioned to religious scholarship after a long career as a singer/songwriter. She was the first winner of the Pantene Pro-Voice competition in 2001, after a performance opening for Jewel at SummerStage in New York's Central Park. You can watch a video of that performance here. Prizes included a nationwide club tour with Poe at venues including the House of Blues in New Orleans and the Roxy in Los Angeles, as well as a demo deal with Atlantic Records.Find more at www.elizabethschrader.comGuest Music by Heath McNeaseYou can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $3/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. Follow the show:Facebook, Twitter, StoreAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptThin places, representation, and our souls. Where are the times that we feel close to God? Guest Bio:Darren Calhoun is a justice advocate, worship leader, and photographer based out of Chicago. He works to bridge connections between people of differing perspectives through story and relationship. Intersectionality is his primary lens when facilitating dialogue and education about justice and inclusion for people marginalized based on race, gender, and/or sexuality.Darren Calhoun is currently the Worship Leader at Urban Village Church – South Loop and previously served as a volunteer worship leader at Willow Chicago for close to a decade. Darren is an Associate Fellow with Evangelicals for Social Action and sings with a band called The Many. He co-lead the #ImSorry and #MakeLoveLouder campaigns at Chicago’s LGBTQ Pride parades. He’s been a speaker and performer at notable events like the Gay Christian Network conference, The Wild Goose Festival, and Sojourner’s Summit for Change. He serves on the board of directors for the Center for Inclusivity, The Reformation Project, and Q Christian Fellowship.He brings with him an intentional focus on the church being inclusive of a diversity of people and expressions as an authentic reflection of the Love of God. Lastly, Darren is an extrovert who loves hugs. Follow him on social media at @heyDarren or through his blog, DarrenCalhoun.com.Guest Music by Remedy DriveYou can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $3/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. Follow the show:Facebook, Twitter, StoreAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptI am, like so many other, try to come to grips with other points of view especially as it comes to the topics of race and power and trauma. Guest Bio:Adam "Lumkile" Thomason is a speaker, poet, and award-winning filmmaker. He has spoken around the nation and in places such as Sudan, South Africa, China, and Palestine. As an adjunct professor at Kilns College, he teaches on human rights, de-colonizing your faith, and filmmaking.Find A.D. Thomason here: http://www.iamredrev.com/Oscar Romero miniseriesGuest Music by Remedy DriveYou can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $3/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. Follow the show:Facebook, Twitter, StoreAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptEventually all of it falls away. All the faith you thought you understood just falls away and you see things in new light. It is uncomfortable but maybe necessary.Guest Bio:So You’re Deconstructing was created by Sarey Martin Concepcion and Dan Koch. Dan hosts the You Have Permission podcast and is currently a doctoral student in psychology at Northwest University in Washington State. Sarey is a writer and producer, who holds a Masters in Theology from Fuller Seminary, and currently resides in Portland, OR. She is also Director of Communications for Blueprint 1543, which facilitates grant projects integrating theology and the sciences.Find Dan and all things Dan right here: https://www.dankochwords.com/Guest Music by Heath McNeaseYou can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $3/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. Follow the show:Facebook, Twitter, StoreAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptWhat is the problem with the Church and organized religion? I bring on Hemant Mehta of The Friendly Athiest Blog to discuss. He's such fun!Guest Bio:Hemant Mehta is the founder and editor of FriendlyAtheist.com, a YouTube creator, and podcast co-host. He is a former National Board Certified math teacher in the suburbs of Chicago. He has appeared on CNN and FOX News and served on the board of directors for Foundation Beyond Belief and the Secular Student Alliance. He has written multiple books, including I Sold My Soul on eBay and The Young Atheist's Survival Guide. He also edited the book Queer Disbelief.Guest Music by drewYou can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $3/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. Follow the show:Facebook, Twitter, StoreAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptThe Lords Pray calls to us...perhaps we pick up the call and listen. What will this change for us?Guest Bio:Aaron a liturgist, writer, and pastor currently living in NYC. After leading worship at Mars Hill Church (Grand Rapids, MI) and Willow Creek Church (Barrington, IL), I created A New Liturgy- a collection of modern liturgical worship recordings. Shortly after, he started a discipleship-focused, formational, ecumenical, practice-based community at Willow Creek called The Practice. In 2018, he released a book about a practice-based faith called The Eternal Current: How a Practice-Based Faith Can Save Us from Drowning, and he's continuing to create resources to help us all flesh it out. But that’s just job stuff. The best parts of his life are his wife Shauna, and his boys, Henry and Mac.Find him at https://www.aaronniequist.comBehind the scenes of The Lords PrayerGuest Music by A New LiturgyYou can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $3/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. Follow the show:Facebook, Twitter, StoreAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptWe could all stand to have a bit more prayer in our lives but how cool is it that prayer is bigger than we thought? Guest Bio:Sarah Bessey is the author of the popular and critically acclaimed books Jesus Feminist, Out of Sorts: Making Peace with an Evolving Faith, and Miracles and Other Reasonable Things. She is a sought-after speaker at churches, conferences, and universities all around the world. Sarah is also the co-curator and co-host of the annual Evolving Faith Conference and she serves as president of the board for Heartline Ministries in Haiti. Sarah lives in Abbotsford, British Columbia, with her husband and their four children.Find her at https://www.sarahbessey.com/Guest Music by The Silver PagesYou can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $3/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. Follow the show:Facebook, Twitter, StoreAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptI hate that this is even a topic that needs discussed; but here we are discussing sex trafficking and the role of the church. May we begin to care less about power and money and more about one another.Guest Bio:The Exodus Road began through the work of co-founders Matt and Laura Parker who, in 2010, operated a children’s home in rural Northern Thailand. During that time, Matt and Laura were exposed to marginalized people groups – targets for human trafficking. Eventually, Matt began networking with news media and local police to learn about the problem at the ground level. After a period of research, he was deputized by police and started working personally to find those trapped in slavery. Today, they lead a team of 70 staff members, many of whom are national operatives who work closely with vetted police partners.Guest Music by Remedy DriveYou can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $3/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. Follow the show:Facebook, Twitter, StoreAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptI thought I had even a tiny understanding of race in America and how the Church had a role in it. I didn't even understand a tiny bit; I still don'tGuest Bio:Joel Edward Goza is a writer, minister, and advocate working from Houston's 5th Ward. When not working, Joel spends his time pestering his wife Sarah, daughter Naomi, and son Samuel Roger as they enjoy their life together. Connect with Joel's work by visiting joeledwardgoza.com.Guest Music by Salt of the SoundYou can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $3/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. Follow the show:Facebook, Twitter, StoreAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptWhat would it look like for us to learn to possibly hear, and learn from, and grow, when we interact with spirits; especially the Holy Spirit?Guest Bio:Since writing his first spiritual punk rock zine at the age of sixteen, Bob Doto has continued writing and speaking on the intersection of spiritual margins and society for the past twenty five years. He is a practicing “folk Catholic” and the author of the book Sitting with Spirits: Exploring the Unseen Margins of the Christianity. Bob hosts the monthly Wild Christianity Salon, is the creator of the anarcho-folkcath zine, Babylon Begone, and teaches an 8-week online course called “Engaging the Christ Tradition: A course for Radicals, Mystics, and Church-a-Phobes.” Between 2005-2010 he was the Managing Editor of internationally acclaimed journal of esoteric studies, Parabola magazine. He is a founding member of renegade yoga blog, The Babarazzi, and wrote on the margins of spirituality in NYC on his blog Not New York. Bob is the owner and director of the Ditmas Park Yoga Society in Brooklyn, where he teaches and practices Ashtanga yoga and Tui Na bodywork, and is a faculty member at the Pacific College of Health and Science in Manhattan. His books Press Here: Acupressure for Beginners and The Power of Stretching are available from Quarto Press. Socials: InstragramGuest Music by The Silver PagesYou can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $3/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. Follow the show:Facebook, Twitter, StoreAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptClay was a joy to have on the show. He's working on finishing his EP now but I'm telling you these songs are flipping amazing and I think give voice to much of what many of us have felt these past years. Guest Bio:Forrest Clay is a singer/songwriter from Clyde, Ohio, whose musical journey has taken him from his small town roots to big cities all over the country. Formerly the lead singer of the pop/rock band The Undeserving, Clay has experienced all the highs and lows of the music industry. In 2008 Clay’s band signed a recording contract with Warner Brothers, and had their songs featured in shows like American Idol, So You Think You Can Dance, Undercover Boss, and several others. Since then, Clay has spent his time recording several solo projects and singles, and has continued to hone his craft as a performer and songwriter. Clay's upcoming project, "Recover EP" is his deeply personal letter to the American church, written over the last four years. Socials: https://linktr.ee/ForrestClayGuest Music by Forrest ClayYou can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $3/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. Follow the show:Facebook, Twitter, StoreAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptKeith joins the show again. This time he and I go at what happens at the end of the world.Guest Bio:Keith Giles is a former pastor who left the pulpit to follow Jesus over 12 years ago and started a church where 100% of the offering was given away to the poor in the community. Today he's the author of the best selling "Jesus Un" series of books which challenger our commonly-held conceptions about Scripture, the end times, hell and what it means to follow Christ.Keith has published articles in Relevant Magazine, Plough Quarterly, CWR Magazine. He's also appeared on CNN with Anderson Cooper, John Fugelsang's "Tell Me Everything" on Sirius XM Radio, and Buzzfeed. Keith writes for Patheos and for the last 3 years has been the co-host of the Heretic Happy Hour Podcast. He also co-hosts the new Peace Catalyst Podcast which will launch in 2021. He and his wife Wendy live in El Paso, TX.Guest Music by Silver Pages.You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $3/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. Follow the show:Facebook, Twitter, StoreAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l GlowEach episode this year has brought an answer to a question that I think is so big. That question..."when we say God what are we actually trying to say?". Here are those answers, in part. Guest Music by Forrest ClayYou can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. Follow the show:Facebook, Twitter, StoreAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptPatrons are the best. These conversations with them are even better. Jennifer is one of my favorite people and she's full of such wisdom.Guest Bio:Born and raised outside of Philadelphia, PA, Jennifer has spent her adult life in TN. With a bachelors degree from East Tennessee State and a masters degree in Christian Spirituality from Oblate School of Theology, Jennifer’s primary is as a spiritual director. She makes her home in Jackson TN with her husband and their two cats, Saya Ming, 14 and Macademina, 11. She can be found on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Pinterest and Marco Polo. You can learn more about her life’s journey and her spirituality on her blog, livingintomycalling.blogspot.com. Guest Music by Spectre JonesYou can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. Follow the show:Facebook, Twitter, StoreAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptIncarnation is bringing a new thing, a wondrous thing. Now it’s on us to get the heck out of the way to watch it.Guest Bio:Scott Erickson is a touring painter, performance speaker, and creative curate who mixes autobiography, mythology, and aesthetics to create art and moments that speak to our deepest experiences. Additionally Scott is the current Curator of Awesomeness for the community at large.Follow Scott @ScottthepainterGuest Music by Peter LarsenYou can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. Follow the show:Facebook, Twitter, StoreAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptThe whole world is dancing to a song we can't hear. But for those of us that has ears to hear we hear the dirge and we hear Christ's critique of our inability to enter into it.Guest Bio:Lo The Poet (Lo Alaman) could be considered an artist, speaker, minister, and Laker fan most days of the week. But there isn’t a day he doesn’t consider himself a husband, a father, and a son of The Most High God. Whether preaching, spitting poetry, or just chilling with new best friends, Lo seeks to create moments to minister the love of Jesus in every space he enters. Lo lives in TX with his wife Erika and daughter Emersyn.Follow Lo @lothepoetGuest Music by Branan Murphy. Tracks: Good, My Life.You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. Follow the show:Facebook, Twitter, StoreAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript"I’m pleading! American Christians, if you call yourself a Christian, consider not being patriotic; consider just weaning yourself off of patriotism. Because when it really comes down to it that is the idol for today." - Dr. Stephen BackhouseGuest Bio:Stephen Backhouse is the director and primary teacher of Tent. He is an international speaker and teacher. For over two decades he has been delivering real theology to thousands of Christians around the world in churches, universities, schools, festivals, political party conferences, youth camps, newspapers, magazines, television and podcasts. Stephen has a doctorate from the University of Oxford and multiple master’s degrees from McGill University in Montreal and Oxford, where he also did his undergraduate studies in philosophy and theology. Guest Music by Remedy DriveYou can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. Follow the show:Facebook, Twitter, StoreAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptPatriot Churches? White American Folk Religion? What do these things mean and what do they have to do with us?Guest Bio:Jonathan Walton, author of Twelve Lies that Hold America Captive and the Truth that Sets Us Free, is an Area Director for InterVarsity. As one of Christianity Today’s 33 Under 33, he has been featured in multiple outlets for his work against human trafficking. Jonathan has a BA in Creative Writing from Columbia University and MA in the Study of the Americas from City College.Guest Music by Heath McNeaseTracks Include: Goodnight, and Goodluck, Be Clean Again, Your NameYou can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. Follow the show:Facebook, Twitter, StoreAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptIt's not about what we say...it is entirely about our way of BEING. Guest Bio:Jon Steingard is a director and filmmaker from San Diego, California. Canadian by birth - Californian by choice.Jon also used to front the band Hawk Nelson.He specializes in music videos, promo videos, text animation and effects. Really anything that needs to grab people's attention. Guest Socials:InstagramWebGuest Music by Davis SmithTracks Include: Rose Colored, Aside, Half a World AwayYou can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. Follow the show:Facebook, Twitter, StoreAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptIt will take each of us raising our voice in our own circles...this matters...Guest Bio:Kerry Connelly is a writer; Certified Life Coach; author of the no-nonsense blog Jerseygirl, JESUS; and host of the podcast White on White, which reimagines white identity apart from pseudo-supremacy. She is currently pursuing an MDiv at Christian Theological Seminary. She lives in New Jersey with her family.Guest Music Salt of The SoundYou can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. Follow the show:Facebook, Twitter, StoreAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptDipping our toes back into thoughts around a God that “can’t”.Guest Bio:Thomas Jay Oord is a theologian, philosopher, and multidisciplinary scholar who directs a doctoral program at Northwind Theological Seminary and the Center for Open and Relational Theology. He formerly taught for sixteen years as a tenured professor at Northwest Nazarene University in Nampa, Idaho.Guest Music by AC & Brady James Tracks Include: You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. Follow the show:Facebook, Twitter, StoreAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript What happens when we begin to consider that those that do "bad things" might not have necessarily though they were doing so? What if it had been you? What would we do? Guest Bio: JR. Forasteros is on an eternal quest to smoke the perfect brisket. He pastors Catalyst Church in Dallas, TX. He is the author of Empathy for the Devil, available from InterVarsity Press. He co-hosts the Fascinating Podcast and In All Things Charity (the best Wesleyan Feminist Theology podcast on the web). He announces for Assassination City Roller Derby, where his wife Amanda skates as Mother Terrorista. When he grows up, he wants to be the Unbeatable Squirrel Girl, or die historic on the Fury Road.  Guest Music by OLY Tracks Include: Vapor; Water, Fall; and Garden You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/store What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  Follow the show: Facebook, Twitter, Store Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Episode Transcript We’ve caused a turning point in the Earth’s natural history. Everybody Now is a podcast about what it means to be human on the threshold of a global climate emergency, in a time of systemic injustice and runaway pandemics. Scientists, activists, farmers, poets, and theologians talk bravely and frankly about how our biosphere is changing, about grief and hope in an age of social collapse and mass extinction, and about taking action against all the odds. On 19th October 2020, Everybody Now is being released by podcasters all over the world as a collective call for awareness, grief and loving action. With contributions from: Dr. Gail Bradbrook - scientist and co-founder of Extinction RebellionProf. Kevin Anderson - Professor of Energy and Climate Change at the University of Manchester Dámaris Albuquerque - works with agricultural communities in Nicaragua Dr. Rowan Williams - theologian and poet, and a former Archbishop of Canterbury Pádraig Ó Tuama - poet, theologian and conflict mediator Rachel Mander - environmental activist with Hope for the Future John Swales - priest and activist, and part of a community for marginalised people Zena Kazeme - Persian-Iraqi poet who draws on her experiences as a former refugee to create poetry that explores themes of exile, home, war and heritage Flo Brady - singer and theatre maker Hannah Malcolm - Anglican ordinand, climate writer and organiser Alastair McIntosh - is a writer, academic and land rights activist David Benjamin Blower - musician, poet and podcaster Funding and Production: This podcast was crowdfunded by a handful of good souls, and produced by Tim Nash and David Benjamin Blower Permissions: The song Happily by Flo Brady is used with permission., The song The Soil, from We Really Existed and We Really Did This by David Benjamin Blower, used with permission. The Poem The Tree of Knowledge by Pádraig ÓTuama used with permission. The Poem Atlas by Zena Kazeme used with permission. The Poem What is Man? by Rowan Williams from the book The Other Mountain, used with permission from Carcanet Press.  Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript Stand with me. Keep the faith.  This collection is for anyone who has ever looked at the religious pageantry propping up the Trump administration and said quietly in their heart: This is not my Jesus. We’re with you. And we’re saying it from the chest, for the people in the back. Guest Bios: Jonathan Walton, author of Twelve Lies that Hold America Captive and the Truth that Sets Us Free, is an Area Director for InterVarsity. As one of Christianity Today’s 33 Under 33, he has been featured in multiple outlets for his work against human trafficking. Jonathan has a BA in Creative Writing from Columbia University and MA in the Study of the Americas from City College. Suzie Lahoud is a published author with two MAs in Middle Eastern Studies from the Arab Baptist Theological Seminary in Beirut and Harvard University, and a BA from Duke University in Russian and Middle Eastern Studies. Her extensive overseas experience includes managing relief and development projects for displaced populations in Lebanon, Syria, and Iraq. Sy Hoekstra, a graduate of NYU School of Law, is a public defender in the New York City child welfare system. He was previously a Staff Attorney at the US Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit. Sy earned a BA in History and German Literature from Columbia University. He grew up in the Midwest and Northeast, and lived in Zurich, Switzerland as a teenager. Guest Socials:  Website: www.keepingthefaithbook.com Suzie Lahoud @Sy Hoekstra Jonathan Walton Guest Music by Jon Guerra You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/store What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  Follow the show: Facebook, Twitter, Store Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript Christian Nationalism is a drug and the Church, as well as all of us, are hopelessly addicted. But there is another way, The Way. Guest Bio: Stephen Backhouse is the director and primary teacher of Tent. He is an international speaker and teacher. For over two decades he has been delivering real theology to thousands of Christians around the world in churches, universities, schools, festivals, political party conferences, youth camps, newspapers, magazines, television and podcasts.  Stephen has a doctorate from the University of Oxford and multiple master’s degrees from McGill University in Montreal and Oxford, where he also did his undergraduate studies in philosophy and theology.  Guest Music by Remedy Drive You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/store What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  Follow the show: Facebook, Twitter, StoreAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript I have only begun to finally realize just how little I understand of the faith of others; and that realization has made God so much bigger for me.  Guest Bio: Dalsher has lived in central Pennsylvania for the past 24 years, and has become very comfortable with creating dialogue with people he comes across who are curious to know about the distinct appearance when they see him (nearly always regarding his turban). But over the course of that 24 years, he has come to find that having simple conversations goes a long way in clearing up any misconceptions or general lack of knowledge when it comes to his faith. Guest Music by The Salt of The Sound You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/store What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  Follow the show: Facebook, Twitter, StoreAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptDo we really understand the history that we are speaking of when we think on The Christ?Paul is an author, poet, writer, and all around wonderful human. You should get to know him. Check out his info at https://www.paulthomasauthor.comGuest Music by The Salt of The SoundYou can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. Follow the show:Facebook, Twitter, StoreAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptSo now that we have love and we begin to understand it and the relationship it has with us and us with God...what of The Satan? Guest Bio: Brad Jersak is an author and teacher based in Abbotsford, BC. He serves as a reader and monastery preacher at All Saints of North America Orthodox Monastery. He also occasionally teaches at The Bridge in Abbotsford. Through his books and seminars, Brad shares the good news that God is Love, perfectly revealed in Jesus Christ. He teaches others how to encounter God through the practice of ”listening prayer,” through which God’s love heals wounded hearts and empowers us to heal this broken world.Guest Links:Web, Facebook, Twitter, InstagramGuest Music by Young Oceans: Tracks - The Gates, You Are Not Far, and Only YouYou can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. Follow the show:Facebook, Twitter, StoreAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript We all argue, we all want to be right. But what matters isn't being right. What matters is love.  Guest Bio:  Jared Byas is co-host of the popular podcast The Bible for Normal People and co-author of the book Genesis for Normal People. As a former teaching pastor and professor of Philosophy & Biblical Studies, he speaks regularly on the Bible, truth, creativity, wisdom, and the Christian faith. He and his wife, Sarah, live outside Philadelphia, PA with their four children, Augustine, Tov, Elletheia, and Exodus. Connect with Jared at jaredbyas.com. Guest Music by Salt of the Sound You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/store What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  Follow the show: https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/ https://twitter.comAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript Who will stand and be a witness for our times today? Even when it's rough...? Guest Bio: Drew G. I. Hart is a  professor of theology at Messiah University in Pennsylvania. He has 10 years of pastoral ministry experience and has worked for an afterschool program in the city for middle school boys, and he collaborates with organizers and activists in his city working for justice. His book, Trouble I’ve Seen: Changing the Way the Church Views Racism, utilizes everyday stories, Jesus-shaped lessons, and anti-racism frameworks to transform the church’s understanding and social witness. Drew’s writing can be found in Red Letter Christians, Sojourners, The Christian Century, and The Mennonite, among other places, and Dr. Hart speaks regularly at colleges, conferences, and churches throughout North America. Drew also serves as a co-host for the Inverse Podcast, along with Australian peace activist, Jarrod Mckenna. His newest book is entitled Who Will Be a Witness?: Igniting Activism for God’s Justice, Love, and Deliverance and was published on September 1, 2020. Dr. Drew Hart was the recipient of bcmPEACE’s 2017 Peacemaker Award and was honored locally with the 2019 W.E.B. Du Bois Award in recognition of his commitment and work for justice locally and nationally. Most recently he was chosen as Elizabethtown College’s 2019 Peace Fellow. Drew and his family live in Harrisburg, PA. Guest Music by Olivia Georgia You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/store What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  Follow the show: 
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Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptWhat does it look like for justice to pour from the church in a way that generates, every day, new growth again and again and again? Guest Bio:Megan writes her way through questions about faith, and life, and who God is, and why people who say they love God don’t act like it sometimes. Her first book, Born Again and Again, is a collection of my thoughts on lots of these questions.Guest Music by Heath McNeaseYou can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. Follow the show:
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Transcript for this episode:   Welcome to the show! If you are here I am so grateful for you and want to invite you to become a part of the beloved community being developed here. Consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.    http://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurch   Guest: Greg Boyd   What is open theism? What is it's purpose and when we discuss what is our future and what is reality where does that leave us? Do we have control or does God? Let's get into it.  Greg Boyd is an internationally recognized theologian, preacher, teacher, apologist and author. He has been featured on the front page of The New York Times, The Charlie Rose Show, CNN, National Public Radio, the BBC and numerous other television and radio venues. Greg received his Ph.D. from Princeton Theological Seminary (summa cum laude 1988), his M.Div. from Yale Divinity School (cum laude 1982), and his B.A. in Philosophy from the University of Minnesota (1979). He was a professor of theology for 16 years at Bethel University (St. Paul, MN) where he received the Teaching Excellence Award and Campus Leadership Award. Greg is the co-founder of Woodland Hills Church in St. Paul, Minnesota where he serves as Senior Pastor, speaking to thousands each week. Greg has authored or co-authored 22 books and numerous academic articles, including his best-selling and award-winning Letters From a Skeptic and his recent books Crucifixion of the Warrior God and Cross Vision. His apologetic writings and public debates on the historical Jesus and the problem of evil have helped many skeptics embrace faith, and his writings and seminars on spiritual transformation have had a revolutionary, freeing impact on thousands of believers.   Greg is active on Facebook, Twitter, and his website http://reknew.org/   Special Music for this episode was provided by Remedy Drive. The band of late has just been on fire; writing songs that are inspired by the devasting reality that finds its way into our lives. Song inspired by the ordinary people that fight injustice daily.    Tracks include: King of Kings, Throne, and Dear Life.    Find Remedy Drive's music on iTunes, Spotify  https://www.remedydrive.com/   Follow on the Socials!   Facebook: Remedy Drive Twitter: @remedydrive Instagram: Remedy Drive Youtube: RemedyDrive   You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript Look at the mess you and I are in. Look at what our inability to nuance science and faith has brought about. Mike and I go over so much ground here in this weeks episode.  Guest Bio: Mike is an ordained Dudeist Priest, and a Novice in the Holy (Dis)Order of Dancing Monks? Would that bring you a head scratch – or a laugh? Guest Music by RORRE You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/store What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  Follow the show: 
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Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript And now what of the church? What are we entrusting our funds too and for what purpose? Should we defund it ...? Guest Bio: Justin Douglas is the Founder and Lead Pastor of The Belong Collective. He has been serving in ministry for more than 15 years and is equipped with a formidable blend of community service knowledge and experience. He is motivated and inspired by a drive to bridge the gaps that exist in our world through creating more spaces of belonging and acceptance. Justin Douglas is married to his beautiful wife Brittney and is the proud father of three children; Magnolia, Beckett, and Reed. His list of hobbies include: creating music, fitness, and cheering on the Packers and Red Sox. Guest Music by Heath McNease You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/store What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  Follow the show: 
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Transcript for this Episode   Welcome to the show! If you are here I am so grateful for you and want to invite you to become a part of the beloved community being developed here. Consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.    http://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurch   Guest: Mark Charles   Have you ever wondered how we became the country and the church and the way that we are today? What is the true history of our nation. Ask almost any person on the street and they will quote to you Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln or further back Columbus. But that's not the history, at least, not the true history. The Doctrine of Discovery is absolutely fascinating and all-together important to understand; especially through a lens of how it impacts every portion of our lives.    Links to the articles referenced:    After recording of this episode Mark was able to write a more detailed and further piece on Lincoln... it is well worth all the time it takes.. read slowly:   http://wirelesshogan.blogspot.com/2018/02/the-historically-accurate-abraham-lincoln.html   —-    http://wirelesshogan.blogspot.com/2017/07/where-augustine-goes-off-rails.html   http://wirelesshogan.blogspot.com/2018/01/the-abhorrent-lie-of-white-supremacy.html   Mark Charles is a dynamic and thought-provoking public speaker, writer, and consultant. The son of an American woman (of Dutch heritage) and a Navajo man, he speaks with insight into the complexities of American history regarding race, culture, and faith in order to help forge a path of healing and conciliation for the nation.  Mark serves as the Washington DC correspondent and regular columnist for Native News Online and is the author of the popular blog "Reflections from the Hogan." He served on the board of the Christian Community Development Association (CCDA) and is a former Board of Trustee member of the Christian Reformed Church of North America (CRCNA). Mark also consults with the Calvin Institute of Christian Worship (CICW), has served as the pastor of the Christian Indian Center in Denver CO and is a founding partner of a national conference for Native students called “Would Jesus Eat Frybread?” (CRU, IVCF and CICW) Mark is active on Facebook, Twitter, YouTube and Instagram under the username: wirelesshogan.     Please stay tuned for Marks forthcoming book: Truth Be Told this is going to be one you're going to need to get!      Special Music for this episode was provided by Sean C Johnson. Sean is a former Air Force Staff Sergeant as a soul singer – no afro blowing in the wind and no “tortured genius” look. He does, however, have his own unique vibe - an unsuspecting and compassionate demeanor that produces a sound that draws you in. Sean offers music that lyrically takes the listener deep into the Word, flowing hypnotically over soul ballads and Hip Hop beats.   Tracks include: Home, Up, and Angels from his album Race The Sun released in 2017 (January)   Find Seans music on iTunes, Spotify  http://www.seancjohnson.com   Follow on the Socials!   Facebook: SimplyAVessel Twitter: @SeanCJohnson Instagram: SeanCJohnson Youtube: Sean Johnson SoundCloud: Sean C Johson   You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript The way we, as an institution, the Church has handled issues surrounding sexuality and sexual assault just isn't good enough.  Guest Bio: Ruth Everhart is an author, speaker, and pastor who has served Presbyterian churches for more than twenty years. A graduate of Calvin College and United Theological Seminary of the Twin Cities. She lives near Washington DC. Find her at: https://rutheverhart.com/ Guest Music by Heath McNease You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/store What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  Follow the show: 
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Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript  l Survey Guest: Professor Soong-Chan Rah What would it mean for our church to actually think and embrace a new way to Evangelize others. The future of our church is hinged on this question. How do we talk about Christ and Church when we have no justice, and we show graciously small amounts of love? How can we begin to address this? Professor Rah and I have the opportunity to discuss.  Bio: Rev. Dr. Soong-Chan Rah is Milton B. Engebretson Associate Professor of Church Growth and Evangelism at North Park Theological Seminary in Chicago, IL and the author of The Next Evangelicalism: Freeing the Church from Western Cultural Captivity (IVP Books, 2009). Rah is formerly the founding Senior Pastor of the Cambridge Community Fellowship Church (CCFC), a multi-ethnic, urban ministry-focused church committed to living out the values of racial reconciliation and social justice in the urban context. Soong-Chan has previously been part of a church planting team in the Washington DC area, worked for a number of years with IVCF in Boston (specifically at MIT), and had mobilized CCFC to plant two additional churches. He currently serves on the board of Catalyst Leadership Center and Sojourners/Call to Renewal. He has been an active member of the Boston Ten-Point Coalition (an urban ministry working with at-risk youth) and is a founding member of the Boston Fellowship of Asian-American Ministers. He has extensive experience in cross-cultural preaching as well as on numerous college campuses. Soong-Chan was a plenary speaker at the 2003 Urbana Student Missions Conference, the 2005 Summer Institute for Asian American Ministry and Theology, the 2006 Congress on Urban Ministry, the 2007 ECC Midwinter Conference, the 2007 Urban Youth Workers Institute Conference and the 2008 CCDA National Conference. Find his books right here on Amazon Connect with Prof Rah on Facebook, Twitter: @profrah as well as http://www.profrah.com/ Follow the Show on Twitter: @CISTACPodcast and Facebook  Special Music for this episode was provided by Brett Lee MIller from the Album: Topography. Tracks include: Romance, Remain, Texture, and In Us Find his music on iTunes, YouTube as well as Spotify as well Instagram and Facebook, Twitter and at http://brettleemiller.com/ You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  If you are here I am so grateful for you and want to invite you to become a part of the beloved community being developed here. Consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  http://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurchAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript White privilege is a nasty animal and is full of such a large amount of baggage. Most of us use it as a way to other those we don't agree with. But what does one do when you realize it is a problem and how do we try to step towards a more loving way of living?  Guest Bio: Sean is a follower of The Christ. Baptized on my 32nd birthday Husband, father, brother and friend to many.  He hosts the Come to the Table and Oil & Gas Elevate Podcast’s.  Co-host and co-producer of the Tent Theology Podcast. Sean was born and raised in Houston, Texas.  US Navy Veteran (92-98).  As with many of us Sean is constantly seeking and working on earning the chance to transform.  Guest Music by David Benjamin Blower You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/store What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  Follow the show: 
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Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript Stories and proximity are the way in which we can find the ability to hear one another. And it is in this hearing we can begin the conversation around reconciliation. Guest Bio: Michael is an engaging public speaker, accomplished writer, trained mediator, skilled facilitator, and energizing teacher. He lives in Nashville, Tennessee with his wife Brittany and their two terriers, Charlie and Lily. You can follow him on Facebook and Instagram at @michaeltmcray. Guest Music by Heath McNease You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/store What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  Follow the show: 
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Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript Guest: Dominique DuBois Gilliard The United States has more people locked up in jails, prisons, and detention centers than any other country in the history of the world. Mass incarceration has become a lucrative industry, and the criminal justice system is plagued with bias and unjust practices. And the church has unwittingly contributed to the problem. The huge elephant in the room is this: how Christians can pursue justice that restores and reconciles, offering creative solutions and highlighting innovative interventions? The church has the power to help transform our criminal justice system. Discover how you can participate in the restorative justice needed to bring authentic rehabilitation, lasting transformation, and healthy reintegration to this broken system. Bio: Dominique DuBois Gilliard is the director of Racial Righteousness and Reconciliation for the Love Mercy Do Justice (LMDJ) initiative of the Evangelical Covenant Church (ECC). He is the author of Rethinking Incarceration: Advocating for Justice that Restores. He also serves on the board of directors for the Christian Community Development Association and Evangelicals for Justice. In 2015, he was selected as one of the ECC’s “40 Under 40” leaders to watch, and Huffington Post named him one of the “Black Christian Leaders Changing the World.” An ordained minister, Gilliard has served in pastoral ministry in Atlanta, Chicago, and Oakland. He earned a bachelor’s degree in African American Studies and History from Georgia State University and a master’s degree in History from East Tennessee State University, with an emphasis on race, gender, and class in the United States. Dominique earned a Master of Divinity degree from North Park Seminary, where he currently serves as an adjunct professor Rethinking Incarceration: Advocating for Justice that Restores:  Amazon Connect with Dominique on Facebook, Twitter: @DDGilliard as well as https://dominiquegilliard.com Special Music for this episode was provided by A New Liturgy. A New Liturgy is a project from Aaron Niequist & friends designed to create a moveable, sonic sanctuary.  Each liturgy is a 25 minute journey of music, prayer, scripture, and space that helps open us to The Almighty in any location, season, community, or emotion Tracks include: Emmanuel Parts 1 and 2, and Come Thou Fount from the album A New Liturgy No. 3: Lord Have Mercy.  Find them on Vimeo as well as Spotify as well Instagram and Facebook, Twitter You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  Please consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  http://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurchAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript Janet and I try to tackle speaking about God from what we can’t say about the divine; only in terms of negation. It’s entirely difficult Guest Bio: Janet studied Classics and Philosophy at Oxford University before competing a Masters Degree in Patristic Theology at Oxford, and a PhD in Religious Studies with the University of Winchester. A stint in investment banking in London and Tokyo was followed by a career in education, teaching Religious Studies, Theology, Classics, and Philosophy at universities and colleges in Japan and the UK. Ordained in Gloucester in 2009, she served as a Minister in Secular Employment before taking up leadership of the West of England Ministry Training Course in 2012. She joined St Hild as Vice Principal in summer 2018 and lives in Mirfield. Guest Music by Heath McNease You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/store What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  Follow the show: 
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Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript I've been watching from the sidelines, as best I can, at all of us across the globe just argue -- making every single thing political. I think there is a much larger conversation to the world "politic" though. May this re-release of a chat with Brad Jersak find you well and safe: --- Original Show Notes --- Politics and religion are inescapable in the circles we all run in but how do we discuss it? How do we make space for it? I welcome Brad back on the show to discuss. It has been too long! Guest: Brad Jersak For Christians atonement is somewhat of a lynchpin. It's our attempt to put to words what the death of Jesus stands for and further what that then means as we work our faith out daily. You are going to love this convo with Brad. Connect with Brad on Facebook, Twitter: @bradjersak as well as https://bradjersak.com/ Music this week by Wimberley Tracks: Better One, Eyes to Zion, My God You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  get the swag!!!! www.canisaythisatchurch.com/store What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurch Follow the show: https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/ https://twitter.com/cistacpodcast https://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript We all shift out beliefs and when we do the foundations of the world shift with them...so now what? Guest Bio: Colby Martin is the cofounder of Sojourn Grace Collective in San Diego, CA and cohost of the Kate and Colby Show. He is a leading voice in the progressive Christian movement. Find him at www.colbymartinonline.com Guest Music by Heath McNease You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/store What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  Follow the show: 
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Mark Van Steenwyk joins to show to give a first hand view of the protests in Minneapolis surrounding the death of George Floyd Resources: Here are 10 ways to support the struggle for justice in Minneapolis. 1. Add your voice to this list of demands from Reclaim the Block and Black Visions. 2. Support the Minnesota Freedom Fund, a widely respected bail fund for those arrested in protests against oppression. 3. Support George Floyd's family on GoFundMe.  4. Support the Black Visions Collective, a grassroots organizing group intent on improving the Cities for black communities. 5. Donate funds to Holy Trinity Lutheran Church. They are directing funds as need. When asked to choose a fund, select "Other" and simply type "Justice." 6. Support the North Star Health Collective, who is providing street medics during this uprising.  7. Support Reclaim the Block, a group focusing on shifting municipal budgets away from the carceral state and towards needed social services. 8. Support MPD 150 a police abolition group working to support the ongoing institutional struggle to defund/abolish the police in Minneapolis and beyond. 9. Give food, supplies, and funding to CTUL, which is collecting (and giving out) food, formula, masks, household/cleaning supplies, and more. For a no-contact dropoff, leave resources at the door. 3715 Chicago Ave Minneapolis.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript When you wander and stumble around on this floating blue orb wondering "who is and where is God" know this...you are not lost nor are you alone. Guest Bio: Traci writes on her blog, Traces of Faith, and elsewhere from her kitchen table in rural Michigan, not far at all from Lake Michigan’s shoreline. She’s blessed with a family of three - unless you include their dogs, cats, pigs, salamander, and chickens - then there are a lot more blessings to count! Her first book, Not All Who Wander (Spiritually) Are Lost, is out now. You can follow her on Twitter at @tracesoffaith. Guest Music by Salt of the Sound You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/store What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  Follow the show: 
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Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript Yonathan and I discuss meeting God at the border. Guest Bio: Yonathan Moya has spent the last decade of his life serving on the mission field throughout Latin America and the Caribbean. He's traveled all throughout the region, including countries like Costa Rica, Belize, Mexico, Honduras, Haiti, and Cuba. Yonathan is the Founder and Executive Director of Border Perspective. Yonathan grew up on the U.S. & Mexico border. He's a South Texas native now living with his wife, Megan, their son Jude, and mini-Goldendoodle, Fitz, in Minneapolis, Minnesota. Guest Music by Salt of the Sound You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/store What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  Follow the show: https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/ https://twitter.com/cistacpodcast https://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript It was my joy to speak with Sarah, actually that's an understatement. Guest Bio: From 2009 to 2017, Sarah Hurwitz served as a White House speechwriter, first as a senior speechwriter for President Barack Obama and then as head speechwriter for First Lady Michelle Obama. Prior to serving in the Obama Administration, Sarah was chief speechwriter for Hillary Clinton on her 2008 presidential campaign. Sarah is the author of Here All Along: Finding Meaning, Spirituality, and a Deeper Connection to Life – in Judaism (After Finally Choosing to Look There). Guest Music by Salt of the Sound You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/store What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  Follow the show: https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/ https://twitter.com/cistacpodcast https://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptWhat happens when we actually talk to strangers about God?Guest Bio:Tyler Ellis is an artist, and an award-winner author of Question Everything. He is best-known for his TEDx Talk, Jesus is Not a Role Model (aka: Finding Meaning in Daily Acts of Good).https://www.btylerellis.com/Guest Music by Salt of the SoundYou can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. Follow the show:https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/https://twitter.com/cistacpodcasthttps://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript A conversation on faith, buddhism, Christ...what if Christ and Buddha had met one another? Guest Bio: Bushi Yamato Damashii is an independent Buddhist Christian monk (Bodhichristo), and the founder and abbot of Sangha Bodhi Christo (SBC), our Buddhist-Christian practice and study community comprised of members, students, and teachers. He holds the head seat of teaching and guidance within Sangha Bodhi Christo as “Heiwa no Bushi” (Peaceful Samurai), which is the title given to the head monk of the community. Independent of any lineage, sect, denomination, or tradition of either Christianity or Buddhism, Sangha Bodhi Christo seeks to re-translate the “Golden Rule” of both traditions into tacit experience within the SBC community, and to share the interreligious practices and teachings of SBC to all beings. Heiwa is also the founder and director of Thomasville Buddhist Center in Thomasville, North Carolina. https://www.bushispeace.us/ Guest Music by Salt of the Sound You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/store What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  Follow the show: https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/ https://twitter.com/cistacpodcast https://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript There is so much beauty in religious tradition--not just ours. Danny and I dip our toes into talking about that beauty. Guest Bio: Danny and his wife Emily consider themselves to be first and foremost servants of HeartWay Church. Together, they are committed to seeing lives changed through the good news of Jesus. Pastor Danny graduated from Palm Beach Atlantic University with a Bachelor of Arts in Ministry Leadership, and from The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary with a Master of Divinity. He has served in a multitude of ministerial capacities over the years, including several pastoral and chaplaincy positions in both mega-churches and non-profit organizations. Pastor Danny is also in the process of working towards his Doctor of Ministry degree at Fuller Theological Seminary. Guest Music by Salt of the Sound You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/store What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  Follow the show: https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/ https://twitter.com/cistacpodcast https://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript The future of the church really is hinged upon our ability to manage actual, physical, embodiment with digital language. Guest Bio: Jay Kim serves on staff at Vintage Faith Church, overseeing teaching and leadership, as well as on the leadership team of The ReGeneration Project. He is the author of Analog Church, which explores the challenges and opportunities churches face in the digital age. Some of his written work has been featured in Christianity Today, The Gospel Coalition, Relevant Magazine, and other places.  Guest Music by Salt of the Sound You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/store What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  Follow the show: https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/ https://twitter.com/cistacpodcast https://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

As the world shutters and groans in this pandemic I feel isolated a bit at Easter, you may as well. I gathered some friends to pray with me, you, and us. May this find you well. Thanks to all that contributed to this.  *the prayer that I read is from a prayer book on my shelf that has lost its cover. Diana Butler Bass reads from Prayers for an Inclusive Church, by Steven Shakespeare. Additional prayer from Divine Echoes by Mark KarrisAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptRichard and I speak of the prophetic voice of the Man in Black and the ways that through music we all can hear the voice of Christ.Guest Bio:Richard Beck is an award-winning author, speaker, blogger and Professor of Psychology at Abilene Christian University. Every Monday Richard leads a bible study for fifty inmates at the maximum security French-Robertson unit. And Monday-Friday on his popular blog Experimental Theology Richard will spend enormous amounts of time writing about the theology of Johnny Cash, the demonology of Scooby-Doo or his latest bible class on monsters.Guest Music by Salt of the SoundYou can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. Follow the show:https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/https://twitter.com/cistacpodcasthttps://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/ Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript A conversation on disabilities, the churches uneasiness with it, the prosperity gospel and so much more. Guest Bio: Stephanie Tait wears many hats. Blogger, speaker, author, wife, mother, Jesus follower. Her fifteen-years and counting battle with Lyme disease has reshaped her view on the goodness of God. She makes her home in Oregon, where she lives with her husband and two children. She shares her stories at stephanietaitwrites.com. Grab her Book right Here: Guest Music by Salt of the Sound You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/store What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  Follow the show: https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/ https://twitter.com/cistacpodcast https://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/ Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript James and I have a wonderfully beautiful chat on a early Saturday morning about beauty, God, and the glory of us all. Guest Bio: James has written 4 e-books, the #2 Amazon Bestseller ‘Mosaic Of Grace: God’s Beautiful Reshaping Of Our Broken Lives’, is available to buy now on Amazon. You can also catch him on his blog (find my latest post here) Two of his e-books are still available, and you can get them both free on this site  “Dance Of The Writer: A Beginners’ Guide To Authentic Writing” is available free below and you can find out more about it here (you can also get your free copy there). He hosts a weekly podcast, the ‘Poema Podcast’, on the intersection between spirituality, creativity, and identity, which goes out each Wednesday. In it he explore all sorts of issues around spirituality, creativity and identity, often with inspiring guests. You can listen & subscribe to the Poema Podcast on iTunes or on Podbean. Guest Music by Salt of the Sound You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/store What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  Follow the show: https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/ https://twitter.com/cistacpodcast https://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript Listen in as Matthew and I talk about our obligation to sometimes say NO to God.  Guest Bio: Matthew J. Korpman is a rising biblical scholar, itinerant preacher, and theological arsonist. He holds four bachelor degrees and is currently pursuing his Master of Arts in Religion at Yale Divinity School. Guest Music by Salt of the Sound You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/store What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  Follow the show: https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/ https://twitter.com/cistacpodcast https://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/  Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript Brandon and I chat a bit about his work as a film producer, the church, idolatry, silence, and the Strange Negotiations we all make. Guest Bio: Brandon Vedder is an award winning documentary filmmaker. Brandon's career began touring with and making films about musicians. His early days had him shooting for concert films like Pearl Jam: Live at the Garden. In 2013, alongside Transcendental Media, Brandon produced, edited and shot the acclaimed documentary La Source, narrated by Academy Award nominated actor, Don Cheadle. In 2015 Brandon directed, shot & edited A Certain Kind of Light, a documentary short that received six best short documentary awards and aired on PBS in 2017. In Pursuit of Silence, which Brandon produced & shot, premiered at SXSW and released theatrically in 2016 where it became a favorite of critics, boasting a 91% on Rotten Tomatoes. Brandon’s feature directorial debut, Strange Negotiations*, premiered at SXSW early 2019 to critical acclaim and went on to play 30 cities across the country. The film is now available worldwide on streaming platforms and even made it on to a couple “best of 2019” year end lists. Guest Music by Salt of the Sound You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/store What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  Follow the show: https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/ https://twitter.com/cistacpodcast https://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript Matthew and I discuss so much here: Mimetic Theory, Prophetic voices, Heaven and Hell, and so much more. Bio: Matthew has contributed for the Unfundamentalist Christian blog, The Raven ReView, Sojourners, Patheos, and elsewhere. He has written five books with two more on the way, and is an outspoken advocate for non-violence, happily married, with one beautiful, perpetually-dancing daughter. Outside of writing, his interests include gardening, hiking, and European football. Guest Music by Salt of the Sound You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/store What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  Follow the show: https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/ https://twitter.com/cistacpodcast https://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript Listen in as Nathan and I discuss some of the concepts and thoughts behind humanity and the Eastern Church Bio: NATHAN A. JACOBS, Ph.D. is Visiting Scholar of Philosophy at University of Kentucky. He has served as a Lecturer and Associate Professor in both religion and philosophy. His specializations include modern philosophy and Eastern patristic thought. In addition to his numerous conference papers and articles, Dr. Jacobs has three books, published by Cambridge, Notre Dame, and Indiana University, respectively. The first of these was nominated for the American Philosophical Association’s Book Prize and the American Academy of Religion’s Textual Analysis Prize, and the second received the Choice Gold Seal for Outstanding Academic Title. Guest Music by Salt of the Sound You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/store What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  Follow the show: https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/ https://twitter.com/cistacpodcast https://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript We all have so much to learn. Bio: Vince L. Bantu (PhD, The Catholic University of America) is assistant professor of church history and Black church studies at Fuller Theological Seminary and is the Ohene of the Meachum School of Haymanot. Guest Music by Salt of the Sound You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/store What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  Follow the show: https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/ https://twitter.com/cistacpodcast https://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript Community is rapidly decreasing, the ability to hold space for one another. I had the blessing to do just that through the work of the book Heart and Mind. To Many Bios here: please be sure to head over to www.quadratos.com to get into some of the guides and communities. Guest Music by Salt of the Sound You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/store What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  Follow the show: https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/ https://twitter.com/cistacpodcast https://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript A discussion of the Church in Rome, the Apostle Paul, and how his words have shaped us today--for good or for worse. Bio: Sylvia C. Keesmaat is adjunct professor of biblical studies at Trinity College and Wycliffe College in Toronto, Ontario, and biblical scholar in residence at St. James Anglican Church in Fenelon Falls. She is the author of Paul and His Story: (Re)Interpreting the Exodus Tradition, editor of The Advent of Justice, and coauthor, with Brian Walsh, of Colossians Remixed: Subverting the Empire. Keesmaat and Walsh live on an off-grid permaculture farm in Cameron, Ontario, with a fluctuating number of animals and people. Brian J. Walsh serves as a Christian Reformed campus minister at the University of Toronto and is an adjunct professor of theology at Trinity College and Wycliffe College in Toronto, Ontario. He has written numerous books, including Kicking at the Darkness: Bruce Cockburn and the Christian Imagination, The Transforming Vision, and Truth Is Stranger Than It Used to Be. He is the coauthor, with Sylvia Keesmaat, of Colossians Remixed: Subverting the Empire. Walsh and Keesmaat live on a solar-powered permaculture farm in Cameron, Ontario. LInks: Empire Remixed Guest Music by Salt of the Sound You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/store What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  Follow the show: https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/ https://twitter.com/cistacpodcast https://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript Many of us were scared right into the loving arms of a vengeful God that needed to murder Jesus. If we weren't careful he'd be back tomorrow, in the twinkling of an eye, and then we'd really be in for it. This narrative has caused, and continues to cause, anxiety and trauma. Dan and I discuss this specifically this week. Many in our country, myself included, are entirely blind to a massive problem right under our noses. Bio: Dan Koch, is the  host the You Have Permission Podcast and am a doctoral student in counseling psychology at Northwest University in Kirkland, WA. In the past, I co-hosted the Depolarize! and Reconstruct podcasts and played guitar in Sherwood.  I live with my wife Jaffrey in Seattle.  Join my email list below for non-annoying occasional updates. Email: dancoke@gmail.com Guest Music by Salt of the Sound You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/store What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  Follow the show: https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/ https://twitter.com/cistacpodcast https://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript Many in our country, myself included, are entirely blind to a massive problem right under our noses. Bio: Geoffrey Rogers is the Executive Producer of the faith-based documentary BLIND EYES OPENED, in theaters January 23, and CEO and co-founder of the US Institute Against Human Trafficking. In 2011, Geoffrey left a 15-year career as a successful corporate executive at IBM to pursue his non-profit ministry work which aims to raise awareness of important social issues affecting culture today. His Tampa, FL-based non-profit production company, Ships of Tarshish, has produced two projects: “Surrender the Secret,” and the forthcoming BLIND EYES OPENED, a first-of-its-kind nationwide Christian documentary about the truth of sex trafficking in America. Guest Music by Salt of the Sound You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/store What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  Follow the show: https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/ https://twitter.com/cistacpodcast https://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript God is bigger than words can command and smaller than our minds can contain. That's crazy isn't it? So what happens when science and faith collide? Guest Bio: Paul is a teacher, pastor, scientist, writer, and speaker. I teach physics and astronomy at Agnes Scott College in Decatur, Georgia, and serve as Pastor for Adult Education at First Baptist Church of Decatur. He write and speak at the intersection of religion and science (or faith and science, or spirituality and science; pick your favorite term). This topic often gets bogged down in conflict, jargon, and pointy-headedness, and I love humanizing it and taking it to non-specialists. Find more at https://www.pwallace.net Guest Music by The Dodds Tracks include: Holy/Worthy, New Song (Psalm 40), This Love You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/store What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  Follow the show: https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/ https://twitter.com/cistacpodcast https://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

  Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript 2020 will most certainly be one of the most charged political seasons of recent memory; and so what should the role of our churches play in this? What does it mean to refocus our values towards what Christ has called us to be in the world? Guest Bio: Jonathan Wilson-Hartgrove (MDiv, Duke Divinity School) is a writer, preacher, and moral activist. He and his wife, Leah, founded the Rutba House, a house of hospitality in Durham, North Carolina. Jonathan directs the School for Conversion, a popular education center in Durham committed to "making surprising friendships possible," and is an associate minister at St. John's Missionary Baptist Church. Jonathan is the author or coauthor of more than a dozen books, including Reconstructing the Gospel, The Third Reconstruction, Strangers at My Door, Common Prayer, The Awakening of Hope, The Wisdom of Stability, The New Monasticism, and Becoming the Answer to Our Prayers. Guest Music by Salt of the Sound Tracks include: Still, Embers, Solace You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/store What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  Follow the show: https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/ https://twitter.com/cistacpodcast https://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/  Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript  l Survey Who is God? What is mysticism and mystery? Why does it matter? Guest Bio: Andrew Parks spent several years working in residential treatment with traumatized adolescents, both as a direct-care staff and a neurofeedback specialist. He's always had an interest in theology and spiritual practice, letting his faith play a large part in the way he interacts with the world. Find his blog at https://turnorsojourn.home.blog/ Guest Music by Ry Cox Tracks include: All My Good, Love Unending, Love Unending ii, Deeper Water You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/store What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  Follow the show: https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/ https://twitter.com/cistacpodcast https://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

  Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript  l Survey Christmas is such a glorious time of year but how much do we know of how and why we do it like we do? What are the origins of many of our traditions? Santa, trees, lights, candlelight services...why? Guest Bio: Born and raised in Birmingham, Alabama, Alexander grew up as part of a large extended family that had emigrated from Lebanon a generation previously. He grew up with the ancient traditions of Maronite Catholicism and was expected to become a priest, a family tradition since the year 1300. Alexander was led otherwise. He attended the University of Notre Dame and received a degree in Cultural Anthropology. Next came a Master's in Counseling Education, a Master's in Religious Education, a graduate certificate in Pastoral Psychotherapy, and a Ph.D. in Clinical Psychology. His training includes time in Switzerland with Jungian analyst, and founder of Sandplay Psychotherapy, Dora M. Kalff. Returning to the United States, years of retreat ministry, private practice, teaching, leading trainings and study continued to build on a life-long practice of prayer. Visit his website at www.quadratos.com Guest Music by JJ Heller Tracks include: Jesu, Joy of Man's Desiring & Silent Night, Unto Us, Born in Me You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/store What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  Follow the show: https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/ https://twitter.com/cistacpodcast https://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/  Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript  l Survey What is it for the church to speak something that is prophetic to the plights of social justice and immigration? How do we migrate this tense topic full of politics? Guest Bio: Rev. Alexia Salvatierra is an ordained pastor in the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America and the coauthor of Faith-Rooted Organizing. She also serves as a consultant for a variety of organizations, including World Vision USA/World Vision International/Women of Vision, Intervarsity Christian Fellowship, the Christian Community Development Association the Womens’ Donor Network, Auburn Theological Seminary, Interfaith Worker Justice, PICO, and Sojourners. Alexia is adjunct faculty at the New York Theological Seminary and Biola University, and she was the executive director of Clergy and Laity United for Economic Justice (CLUE) for over eleven years. Guest Music by Christa Wells Tracks include: Hold This House Up, Holy Ground, Velveteen You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/store What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  Follow the show: https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/ https://twitter.com/cistacpodcast https://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript  l Survey James and I revisit some of the loose ends we left at the end of the last episode and dive deep into the Gospel of John as well as the community that I find so intriguing of the Mandaeans. Guest Bio: James F. McGrath is Clarence L. Goodwin Chair in New Testament Language and Literature. His PhD from the University of Durham became the basis for his first book, John's Apologetic Christology, published by Cambridge University Press in the SNTS Monograph Series. He has also written a "prequel" about the broader context of monotheism and Christology in ancient Judaism and Christianity, The Only True God: Early Christian Monotheism in Its Jewish Context, published by University of Illinois Press. In addition to his work on the New Testament and early Christianity, Dr. McGrath also researches the Mandaeans (the last surviving Gnostic group from the ancient world) and their literature. The two-volume critical edition, translation, and commentary on the Mandaean Book of John (which he produced together with Charles Haberl of Rutgers University) represents the first such academic edition of the complete work in English based on all known manuscripts. Another area of specialty is the intersection of religion and science fiction. On that subject, he is the author of Theology and Science Fiction, editor of Religion and Science Fiction and co-editor of Time and Relative Dimensions in Faith: Religion and Doctor Who. He blogs at Religion Prof.  Guest Music by Laura Thompson Tracks Include: The Tapestry, Heartsong, The Tapestry (Neon Feather Mix), and Always Good You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/store What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  Follow the show: https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/ https://twitter.com/cistacpodcast https://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/  Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript  l Survey I discuss finding space, making intention and renewing our mind with Todd Vick. Guest Bio: Todd R. Vick is an award winning writer and bestselling author. He was a Southern Baptist preacher for 30 years. He left local church ministry in 2016 to devote his time to writing and conference speaking. He is a Certified Transformation Coach and has helped thousands of people disconnect from faulty religious beliefs. He and his wife, Laura, have four adult children and one granddaughter. They currently reside in Columbia, SC. Guest Music by The Silver Pages You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/store What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  Follow the show: https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/ https://twitter.com/cistacpodcast https://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript It's time for churches, all of them, to make it absolutely clear what their beliefs are...Ambiguity is harmful. You can connect with Church Clarity right here: https://www.churchclarity.org/about Guest Bio: George Mekhail has been in the church his whole life. From growing up in the Coptic Orthodox tradition, to serving in Pastor roles within Evangelical and Mainline Churches. Follow him on twitter @gmekhail Sarah Ngu is a freelance writer based in New York. A leader at Forefront Brooklyn Church, Sarah is also a podcast host. Twitter @sarahngu Guest Music by David Dunn Tracks Include: Grace Will Lead Me Home, Vacation You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/store What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  Follow the show: https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/ https://twitter.com/cistacpodcast https://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/  Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow Episode Transcript All of us are victims of some revisionist history and once you begin digging into the truth it's quite "unsettling". Guest Bio: Soong-Chan Rah (ThD, Duke Divinity School) is Milton B. Engebretson Professor of Church Growth and Evangelism at North Park Theological Seminary in Chicago, Illinois. He is the author of Prophetic Lament, The Next Evangelicalism, and Many Colors: Cultural Intelligence for a Changing Church, as well as coauthor of Forgive Us: Confessions of a Compromised Faith and contributing author for Growing Healthy Asian American Churches. In addition to serving as founding senior pastor of the multiethnic, urban ministry-focused Cambridge Community Fellowship Church (CCFC), Rah has been a part of four different church-planting efforts and served with InterVarsity Christian Fellowship in Boston. He has been an active member of the Boston TenPoint Coalition (an urban ministry working with at-risk youth) and is a founding member of the Boston Fellowship of Asian-American Ministers. He serves on the boards of World Vision, Sojourners, the Christian Community Development Association (CCDA) and the Catalyst Leadership Center. Buy Unsettling Truths Music this week by Tom Read. Tracks: Dead Things to Life, Mask, Pt. 2, In the Ordinary You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/store What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  Follow the show: https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/ https://twitter.com/cistacpodcast https://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow Episode TranscriptShow:I sat down with Nora and Rabbi Tarlow to have a conversation about faith and life; honestly I was so very surprised by this conversation with the questions it left me wanting to ask afterwards.Guest Bio(s):Nora Speakman lives to remind others that they are at their most authentic essence and to provide them a pathway and courage to live that out. She lives a life of transformation knowing that it is a lifetime process. She is the author of What Does Your Heart Beat For and currently is writing Because Small Things Matter and Jesus Was A Guy I Knew. She also hosts the Re-tell Your Story PodcastRabbi Tarlow was the director and rabbi of Texas A&M Hillel for thirty years. Tarlow retired on July 1, 2013, becoming its Rabbi Emeritus. Tarlow came to Texas A&M Hillel from Santiago, Chile and upon retirement he assumed the leadership of the Center for Latino – Jewish Relations. Tarlow writes a weekly bilingual social religious commentary that is read throughout the United States and Latin American and he also writes a monthly philosophy column for the Bryan Eagle. Tarlow has been a chaplain for the College Station police department since 1988 and has worked with the Bryan (Texas) Federal Prison Camp since 1987.Episode TranscriptMusic this week by the Silver ChairYou can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  Follow the show:https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/https://twitter.com/cistacpodcasthttps://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

A conversation about music, getting out of our comfort zone, handling disagreements and so much more Guest Bio: Brad Davis sings and writes music for The Eagle & Child, an Alternative Worship band from California. Their latest record - Sight, is an attempt to build a better bridge between the act of worship and the pursuit of justice and peace. Brad is a Director/Editor/Musician at AdventureVision Productions in San Diego where he and Hailey, his wife are engaged in peacemaking trainings, trips and experiences with the Global Immersion Project. Episode Transcript Music this week by The Eagle and Child Tracks: Fault Lines, Mending the Divide, Radiance You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/store What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurch Support on Glow: Follow the show: https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/ https://twitter.com/cistacpodcast https://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/  Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Episode Transcript In the words of one of my favorite artists..."we didn't cross the border / the border crossed me". So what do we do? How do we partner to find the divine in each of us regardless of our latitude and longitude? Guest Bio: Gena Thomas is a writer and speaker who works at a nonprofit that empowers others through holistic development. She served as a missionary in northern Mexico for four years, holds a master's degree in international development, and is the author of A Smoldering Wick: Igniting Missions Work with Sustainable Practices. She lives in Chattanooga, Tennessee, with her husband, Andrew, and their two children.  Guest Socials:  Twitter: @genalthomas, Facebook: GenaLThomas, Instagram: GenaLThomas Music this week by Heath McNease You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/store What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurch Follow the show: https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/ https://twitter.com/cistacpodcast https://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Episode Transcript In this episode I get my mind blown. What do the Dead Sea Scrolls have to teach us about our Christian faith? Plenty... Guest Bio: Dr. John Bergsma is Professor of Theology at the Franciscan University of Steubenville and a Senior Fellow at the St. Paul Center for Biblical Theology. A professional specialist in the Old Testament and the Dead Sea Scrolls, Bergsma has authored dozens of articles in peer-reviewed journals, lexicons, encyclopedias, and essay collections from Brill, Oxford, T & T Clark, and other academic publishers. Music this week by Neon Feather You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/store What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurch Follow the show: https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/ https://twitter.com/cistacpodcast https://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

  This week is the anniversary of the of the canonization Óscar Romero. I think it important to remember this life and how ministry. So much could be said about Óscar Romero as he was so many things to so many people. But some stories are best laid out with purpose and intention.  This conversation is part 1 of a 4 part series-parts 2-4 can be found over at the patreon page for the show. --- In this series of bonus episodes Paul Thomas reflects on the life and ministry of Saint Óscar Romero by way of providing context to this time in history of El Salvador. Connect with Paul Thomas at https://www.paulthomasauthor.com/ You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/store What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurch Follow the show: https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/ https://twitter.com/cistacpodcast https://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/  Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

There doesn't seem to have been enough time from the beginning of the show to episode 100. In this episode I do a Q/A with some of the listeners and discuss a little about Seth the host and the future of the show. Transcript for this episode You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/store What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurch Follow the show: https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/ https://twitter.com/cistacpodcast https://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/ Transcript for today's episodeAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

A conversation about how our past shapes us for today. The trauma that brings and the glory that it can help reveal. Guest Bio: Terry Wardle is a dynamic speaker who leads seminars and retreats designed to equip pastors, counselors, clinicians, spiritual directors, and many others in formational prayer, spiritual formation, and spiritual direction. The author of numerous books and teaching series, he is the founder of Healing Care and HCM International. Professor Emeritus at Ashland Theological Seminary, he also served as executive director of Alliance Theological Seminary. Former vice president of Nyack College, he was founding pastor of Risen King Community Church in Redding, California. He and his wife, Cheryl, currently reside in Ashland, Ohio. Transcript for this episode You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/store What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurch Follow the show: https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/ https://twitter.com/cistacpodcast https://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/ Transcript for today's episodeAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptThe world is a crazy place. We are constantly pointing the finger at one another in an ever ceasing blame game; what happens when we instead of blame choose to love?Guest Bio:Jeremy Courtney is cofounder and executive director of the Preemptive Love Coalition (PLC), an international development and peacemaking organization based in Iraq. PLC provides lifesaving heart surgeries to Iraqi children and trains local doctors and nurses. He is the author of Preemptive Love: Pursuing Peace One Heart at a Time.Music this week by The CollectionYou can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurchFollow the show:https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/https://twitter.com/cistacpodcasthttps://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/ Transcript for today's episodeAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Patrons make this show a thing and I love the conversations I get to have with them. Everyone has a story and they are all beautiful.  Guest Bio: Matt loves to create music and does so whenever he has free time or is inspired. He is passionate about the process of producing an album from scratch and seeing it come to fruition. He has been writing and producing music since he was 16. After 20 years of doing this, Matt doesn't see any reason for stopping but every album he puts together only fuels his passionate to write more.  Guest Links: Web, YouTube, Bandcamp, Facebook, Instagram Music this week by Matt Tipton You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/store What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurch Follow the show: https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/ https://twitter.com/cistacpodcast https://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/ Transcript for today's episode  Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

It’s not always about what Jesus is calling us to, often it’s about how we get there. In the process how does one find our true name? Guest Bio: Following Jesus is drawn from a series of lectures Nouwen gave that have not been available in book form. Following Jesus does not require dramatic gestures, Nouwen says, but rather small steps "away from 'me' and 'my fevers'" toward God. Gabrielle Earnshaw is the founding archivist of the Henri Nouwen Archives and Research Collection; she is an expert on his legacy. Transcript for Todays Episode: You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/store What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurch Follow the show: https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/ https://twitter.com/cistacpodcast https://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptWe constantly, can't help it it seems, point fingers at everyone else...latching onto what we can use to throw stones at one another. David E. Fitch and I discuss what the church could look like if we didn't.Guest Bio:David E. Fitch (PhD, Northwestern University) is the B. R. Lindner Chair of Evangelical Theology at Northern Seminary and the cofounder of Missio Alliance. He is the founding pastor of Life on the Vine Christian Community, a missional church in the northwest suburbs of Chicago, and is currently on the pastoral staff at Peace of Christ Church in Westmont, Illinois. Fitch writes and speaks extensively about issues facing the church. He has written for Christianity Today, Outreach, and Catalyst and is the author of numerous books, including Faithful Presence and The Great Giveaway.Music this week by Derek Myers:Tracks: Tidal Wave, Fill Me (Overflow), Made to Be Loved, and OvercomeYou can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurchFollow the show:https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/https://twitter.com/cistacpodcasthttps://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/ Transcript for today's episodeAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Few things, very few, are more important than raising the next generation. I sat down with Cindy to discuss how to approach this. Guest Bio: Cindy Wang Brandt is an author, podcaster, and speaker. Her book, Parenting Forward: How to Raise Children with Justice, Mercy and Kindness, was published in February 2019. She’s the founder of popular facebook group, Raising Children Unfundamentalist. She writes at cindywangbrandt.com. You can also find her on Facebook, Twitter  or Instagram. Find more about her Conference that's upcoming right here: https://www.parentingforwardconference.com/ A Joyful Path that was mentioned. Music this week by The Eagle and Child: Tracks: Everyone and Everything, Beloved, and Radiance You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/store What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurch Follow the show: https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/ https://twitter.com/cistacpodcast https://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/ Transcript for today's episode  Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

The Bible is something special, isn't it? I mean what other text have stood the tests of time as it has? But how do we know what we are reading is the correct way to be read? How can we trust translations and what the heck is a "Biblical Narrative"? Professor Robert Alter and I discuss... Guest Bio: Robert Alter is Class of 1937 Professor of Hebrew and Comparative Literature at the University of California at Berkeley, where he has taught since 1967.   He is a member of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences, the American Philosophical Society, the Council of Scholars of the Library of Congress, and is past president of the Association of Literary Scholars and Critics.   He has twice been a Guggenheim Fellow, has been a Senior Fellow of the National Endowment for the Humanities, a fellow at the Institute for Advanced Studies in Jerusalem, and Old Dominion Fellow at Princeton University.  In 2009, he received the Robert Kirsch Award from the Los Angeles Times for lifetime contribution to American letters. As promised at the end here is the link for the works that Robert discussed at the beginning of the show in book format. The Art of Biblical Narrative You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/store What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurch Follow the show: https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/ https://twitter.com/cistacpodcast https://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/ Transcript for today's episodeAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Last we we only just started. This week we begin to wrap this thought up. Though, as with any large topic, there really isn't ever a proper ending. Transcripts for this can be found at Brandon’s website: P7: https://brandonandress.com/2019/06/23/hell-7/ P8: https://brandonandress.com/2019/06/30/hell-8/ P9: https://brandonandress.com/2019/07/03/hell-9/ P10: https://brandonandress.com/2019/07/09/hell-10/ Guest Bio: Brandon Andress is the author of three books: Beauty in the Wreckage- Finding Peace in the Age of Outrage (2018) AND THEN THE END WILL COME! (2013) Unearthed– How Discovering the Kingdom of God Will Transform the Church and Change the World (2010) He podcasts at Outside the Walls (Available on iTunes, Spotify, Google Play, and Stitcher) and VOICES (Available on iTunes, Google Play, and Stitcher). Brandon writes for his popular blogs Brandon Andress and A Joyful Procession. He earned his MBA from Indiana Wesleyan University and his BA in Psychology from Hanover College. He loves the outdoors, hiking, camping, and traveling. Music this week by Salt of the Sound You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  get the swag!!!! www.canisaythisatchurch.com/store What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurch Follow the show: https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/ https://twitter.com/cistacpodcast https://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/ Transcript for today's episodeAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

It's time we talk about Hell... I'm honored Brandon would trust me with his words with these next two posts. Transcripts for this can be found at Brandon’s website: P1 https://brandonandress.com/2019/05/05/hell/ P2 https://brandonandress.com/2019/05/10/hell-2/ P3 https://brandonandress.com/2019/05/19/hell-3/ P4 https://brandonandress.com/2019/05/19/hell-4/ P5 https://brandonandress.com/2019/05/29/hell-5/ P6 https://brandonandress.com/2019/06/15/hell-6/ Guest Bio: Brandon Andress is the author of three books: Beauty in the Wreckage- Finding Peace in the Age of Outrage (2018) AND THEN THE END WILL COME! (2013) Unearthed– How Discovering the Kingdom of God Will Transform the Church and Change the World (2010) He podcasts at Outside the Walls (Available on iTunes, Spotify, Google Play, and Stitcher) and VOICES (Available on iTunes, Google Play, and Stitcher). Brandon writes for his popular blogs Brandon Andress and A Joyful Procession. He earned his MBA from Indiana Wesleyan University and his BA in Psychology from Hanover College. He loves the outdoors, hiking, camping, and traveling. Music this week by Salt of the Sound You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  get the swag!!!! www.canisaythisatchurch.com/store What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurch Follow the show: https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/ https://twitter.com/cistacpodcast https://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/ Transcript for today's episode      Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

What in the world does it even mean to wonder what God's will, God's purpose or even our purpose is in our life. Let's discuss Guest Bio: Mike Donehey is an author and the lead singer, songwriter, and guitarist for the award-winning contemporary Christian band Tenth Avenue North, whose new album No Shame releases August 2. Since 2000, he has been sharing the truth of the gospel in front of millions of people through song and speaking. His transparent writing has attracted a diverse audience to his blog posts, social media commentary, and teaching based on Tenth Avenue North songs. Donehey, his wife, Kelly, and their four daughters live in Nashville, Tennessee. Guest Socials: Instagram, Facebook, Music This week by Tenth Avenue North Tracks Include: No Shame, Paranoia, Space to Speak, Always Been You You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  get the swag!!!! www.canisaythisatchurch.com/store What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurch Follow the show: https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/ https://twitter.com/cistacpodcast https://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/ Transcript for today's episode    Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript The Enneagram is a monster topic but I don't think it has to be. Ultimately, it boils down to better knowing yourself and then taking that further to how to better love one another. Clare Loughrige and I discuss how finding Harmony can do just that with a tool like the Enneagram Guest Bio: Clare Loughrige has been the founding colead pastor of Crossroads Church and Ministries for more than twenty-seven years, where she provides preaching, teaching, and spiritual direction for the leadership team. She is a formally trained spiritual director serving pastors and leaders with The Transforming Center in Wheaton, Illinois, and president of Crossroads Transforming Resources. Clare is the author of Motions of the Soul: The Enneagram Meets Ignatius and Enneagram Personality Styles: A Tool for Self-Knowledge and Transformation and coauthor of Spiritual Rhythms for the Enneagram: A Handbook for Harmony and Transformation. She is president of the International Enneagram Association (IEA) Great Lakes Chapter and has developed a program that certifies Enneagram instructors in the Harmony Triads. In addition to Clare's work with spiritual communities, she currently serves on boards for Michigan Human Trafficking Task Force and Sexual Assault Services Calhoun County Advisory Board. Mother of three and grandmother of five, Clare is deeply grateful for her life in Marshall, Michigan. Music by the Hope Arsenal Tracks Include: The Dweller, Forest of Darkness, and Younger Souls You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  get the swag!!!! www.canisaythisatchurch.com/store What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurch Follow the show: https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/ https://twitter.com/cistacpodcast https://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/ Transcript for today's episode  Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript Politics and religion are inescapable in the circles we all run in but how do we discuss it? How do we make space for it? I welcome Brad back on the show to discuss. It has been too long! Guest: Brad Jersak For Christians atonement is somewhat of a lynchpin. It's our attempt to put to words what the death of Jesus stands for and further what that then means as we work our faith out daily. You are going to love this convo with Brad. Connect with Brad on Facebook, Twitter: @bradjersak as well as https://bradjersak.com/ Music this week by Wimberley Tracks: Better One, Eyes to Zion, My God You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  get the swag!!!! www.canisaythisatchurch.com/store What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurch Follow the show: https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/ https://twitter.com/cistacpodcast https://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/ Transcript for today's episodeAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptBrandon and I sit down to discuss what it looks like to be honest with our doubts. If we can come to terms what does that mean for changing the way that we do church?Guest Bio:Brandon Carleton is a community organizer from Rock Island, IL, where he lives with his wife and son. He leads Connection Quad Cities, is the co-host the Ode to the Underdog podcast, and helps people find their faith meaningful again through his blog at meaningfulagain.com. He is both a craft beer and coffee snob, and prefers both be brewed and roasted in his hometown. An INFJ and Enneagram Type 2, he loves nothing more than cooking dinner and mixing cocktails for friends.You can learn more about Brandon and the church-that-isn't-a-church he leads at http://www.connectionqc.org.Music for this week is by Solveig Leithaug. Tracks include: Going Home, Steal Away, Wayfaring StrangerYou can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurchFollow the show:https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/https://twitter.com/cistacpodcasthttps://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript Jared and I discuss truth, the Eagles, Old Testament and how we often make an idol of so many things that fall short of anything worthy of worship. Guest Bio: Jared, his wife Sarah, and their 4 kids Augustine, Tov, Elletheia, & Exodus (see below), live north of Philadelphia, where Jared enjoys rarely having to write his own bio. While enduring years of oppressive education under a dictatorial Dr. Peter Enns in the early 2000s, Jared was also a teaching pastor and professor near Philadelphia, teaching courses and developing curricula in philosophy, ethics, & biblical studies. In 2011 he launched a creative solutions company and in 2013 had the opportunity to partner with an old friend to launch Experience Institute, an experience-based graduate program in Chicago. Somewhere in there dictatorial Dr. Peter Enns became a dear friend and in 2012, Jared had the privilege, with Pete, to co-author Genesis for Normal People. Now, he writes regularly on peteenns.com because Pete clearly needed a celebrity with a huge platform to help boost page views. You can follow Jared on Facebook, on Twitter at @jbyas, or on his website. Music for this week is by Danny O'Callaghan. Tracks include: Nineveh, Freedom, Worth it All You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurch Follow the show: Facebook Twitter: @CISTACPodcast https://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptAdam and I discuss the Bible through a lens of overarching narrative. How does stripping away the "format" we so often think of Scripture change the way we read it?Guest Bio:Adam Lewis Greene is a book designer who perceived an aesthetic problem with the most central text of his life, and of western civilization. Why does the Bible, in its most common format, look and feel so much like a dense reference book full of numbered information and so unlike a welcoming collection of some of the word’s greatest and most influential literature? Wanting to propose an alternative to readers, in 2014 he launched a crowdfunding campaign to fund the creation of “Bibliotheca,” an elegant, spacious, multi-volume Bible. He trepidatiously set out to raise $37,000 in thirty days to back the production of 500 copies. To his surprise, the project went viral, receiving coverage from The Wall Street Journal, Christianity Today, The Verge, and many others. With contributions from thousands of people across the globe, the campaign closed at over $1.4 million dollars. Side note: I was one of the first supporters of the campaign, “before it was cool.” The books were finally delivered near the end of 2016, and since then it has become my regular reading Bible.More info on BibliothecaMusic for this week is by Mountaintops. Tracks include: Giver of Every Perfect Thing, Like a Beggar, and Every ShadowYou can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurchFollow the show:https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/https://twitter.com/cistacpodcasthttps://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript Clean and Unclean. Worthy and unworthy. Accepted and unaccepted. Our churches have had a habit of all to quickly throwing everyone and anyone into one binary or the next. But this is not the gospel of Jesus. Guest Bio: Brandan Robertson is a noted author, activist, and pastor, working at the intersections of spirituality and social renewal. Robertson currently serves as the Lead Pastor of Missiongathering Christian Church in San Diego, CA and works as an instructor, consultant, and organizer with various national and international NGO’s, religious denominations, and governmental organizations.    Guest Socials: @BrandanJR; brandanrobertson.com; https://www.facebook.com/brandanjrobertson More info on Bibiotheca Music for this week is by The Silver Pages You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurch Follow the show: https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/ https://twitter.com/cistacpodcast https://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/ Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript   This world, if we let it, will strip us of grace. It will distort things that are holy and this is wrong. Join Darren and I as we discuss reclaiming grace and love.   Guest Bio:   Darren Calhoun is a justice advocate, worship leader, and photographer based out of Chicago. He works to bridge connections between people of differing perspectives through story and relationship. Intersectionality is his primary lens when facilitating dialogue and education about justice and inclusion for people marginalized based on race, gender, and/or sexuality.   Darren Calhoun is currently the Worship Leader at Urban Village Church – South Loop and previously served as a volunteer worship leader at Willow Chicago for close to a decade.  Darren is an Associate Fellow with Evangelicals for Social Action and sings with a band called The Many. He co-lead the #ImSorry and #MakeLoveLouder campaigns at Chicago’s LGBTQ Pride parades.  He’s been a speaker and performer at notable events like the Gay Christian Network conference, The Wild Goose Festival, and Sojourner’s Summit for Change. He serves on the board of directors for the Center for Inclusivity, The Reformation Project, and Q Christian Fellowship. He brings with him an intentional focus on the church being inclusive of a diversity of people and expressions as an authentic reflection of the Love of God. Lastly, Darren is an extrovert who loves hugs. Follow him on social media at @heyDarren or through his blog, DarrenCalhoun.com.   Resources mentioned at the end: Church Clarity, Reformation Project, Q Christian Music for this week is by The Many You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurch Follow the show: https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/ https://twitter.com/cistacpodcast https://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/ Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript Karl and I sit down to discuss how fatherhood changes the way we view and think about God. Guest Bio: Karl was a bi-vocational pastor for 20 years until he suddenly realized that some things in his journey of faith needed reevaluated. He is the founder of Karl's coaching. Music for this weeks episode is by Justin Jarvis Tracks: Safe, You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurch Follow the show: https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/ https://twitter.com/cistacpodcast https://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript Few faiths and practices call to me more than that of Buddhism. I think you'll find this conversation between myself and Paul entirely engaging. Guest Bio: Paul F. Knitter is the Paul Tillich Professor of Theology, World Religions and Culture at Union Theological Seminary in the City of New York. A leading advocate of globally responsible inter-religious dialogue. He has authored ten books. Music: Ryan Ellis Tracks: Closer, Like You, Lyfe You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurch Follow the show: https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/ https://twitter.com/cistacpodcast https://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/  Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript The Bible, what is it? Why is it? How is it? The canon of our Bible is a huge topic and no way in hades could we hope to go to get in depth in one convo, yet, here is a start with Tim Mackie. Guest Bio: Tim is a creative writer and director for The Bible Project and an adjunct professor of Old Testament at Western Seminary, both in Portland, Oregon. I’ve been utterly fascinated with Jesus and his Jewish heritage ever since I became a Christian at 20 years old through an urban outreach ministry to skateboarders in Portland, called Skate Church. His greatest passion and privilege is to help people grasp the beautiful and compelling story of the ancient Scriptures and how they lead us to Jesus of Nazareth. I’m married to Jessica (total rock-star), and together we’re raising two little boys, Roman and August, in the wonderful city of Portland, Oregon. Here's the YouTube video we reference at the beginning of the episode. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAvYmE2YYIU&t=18s Music: David Lunsford Tracks: Past the Garden, Sun Like Gold / Moon Like Silver, We've All Got Dreams You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurch Follow the show: https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/ https://twitter.com/cistacpodcast https://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript I sit down and chat about immigration in our country and how possibly our "Biblical" view of "other" may need to shift; with Karen Gonzalez. Guest Bio: Karen Gonzalez is a native of Guatemala and immigrated to the U.S. as a child. She is speaker, writer and immigrant advocate, who lives in Baltimore, MD. Karen is the human resources director at World Relief and attended Fuller Theological Seminary, where she studied theology and missiology. Her first book for Herald Press will be released on May 21, 2019: The God Who Sees: Immigrants, the Bible, and the Journey to Belong. You can connect with her on Twitter and Instagram: @_karenjgonzalez where you’ll find her musing about theology, baseball, and her passion for tacos. Music: Collington Tracks: Here We Go, The Mountain, Walls You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurch Follow the show: https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/ https://twitter.com/cistacpodcast https://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript I sit down for Part 2 of our Patron conversations. Jim and I discuss so much here. Cultural bias, the future of the church and faith. How can we make room for others and a willingness to let go of certainty. Guest Bio: Jim is Recently retired from 40 years in healthcare and university administration, Jim now devotes his time to challenging his local church, gardening, genealogy and pottery. About a decade ago, Jim’s focus changed from orthodoxy (belief) to orthopraxy (practice). He is interested in spiritual approaches and activities that transform lives and communities. He and Virginia live in a suburb of Chicago.   Music for this week is by Dave Pettigrew. Find more of him at davepettigrew.net. Find more about Holt International... Tracks include: Love is Here, Fire and Gasoline, There is Hope (Hope is Alive) You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurch Follow the show: https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/ https://twitter.com/cistacpodcast https://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript Race. Inclusion. Fear. Grace. Why do we struggle to talk about any and/or all of these? Could it be that we just don't know how? This week I sit down with Rev. Dr. Serene Jones in a deeply personal conversation about all of the above and the beautiful idea that Original Grace is entirely more important that Original Sin.  Guest Bio:  Rev. Dr. Serene Jones is president of the historic Union Theological Seminary in the city of New York. The first woman to head the 182-year-old institution, Jones occupies the Johnston Family Chair for Religion and Democracy. She is a past president of the American Academy of Religion. Jones came to Union after seventeen years at Yale University, where she was the Titus Street Professor of Theology at the Divinity School, and chair of Women, Gender and Sexuality Studies in the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences. Jones is the author of several books including Trauma and Grace. She appears regularly on MSNBC, and has recently appeared on FOX News, PBS NewsHour, and has been published in The New York Times, Time, The Washington Post, and Huffington Post. Guest Socials: Twitter: @SereneJones, Union: https://utsnyc.edu/faculty/serene-jones/ Music for this week is by Jervis Campbell. Find more of him at jerviscampbell.com/ Tracks include: Teach Me To Dance, Testify You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurch Follow the show: https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/ https://twitter.com/cistacpodcast https://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript It's been too long, but it is time to talk about what happens when we die, again. It's time to wonder what are all the options for the afterlife, heaven and hell. Guest Bio: Thomas Talbott is the Emeritus Professor of Philosophy at Willamette University in Salem, Oregon. He has published numerous articles and book chapters in defense of Christian universalism. Music for this week is by Andy Squyres find more of his music at andysquyres.bigcartel.com Tracks include: You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurch Follow the show: https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/ https://twitter.com/cistacpodcast https://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript Guest Bio: Danielle Kingstrom is an author, podcaster, and home-school teacher. She cohosts the podcast: BookIsh - The Canon Continues. Danielle is also a contributing writer for Patheos Progressive Christian. She lives in Olivia, with her husband Cory, and their five children. Guest Socials: Twitter: @DKingstrom, Facebook, Instagram: @DKingstrom, BookIsh, Patheos Music for this week is by Mike Mains & The Branches. Find more of their music at https://mikemainsmusic.com/ Tracks include: Around The Corner, Live Forever, and Holy Ghost You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurch Follow the show: https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/ https://twitter.com/cistacpodcast https://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript This week I sit down with Rafael Polendo to discuss what it looks like to live and do things in life differently as a Christian; and what happens when we step out of comfort zones and love and engage with our family and community differently. Ultimately, what happens when we unmuzzle our faith? Guest Bio: Rafael Polendo is an award-winning creative with over 19 years of experience in design and marketing. He is the founder and co-owner of Quoir, a boutique publisher whos books and podcasts aren't afraid to challenge assumptions, see beyond comfort zones, and expand the Collective Christian consciousness. He lives with his wife and son in Orange, California Music for this week is by Hannah Barnett.  Tracks include: Mining, Nails, Patience You can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurch Follow the show: https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/ https://twitter.com/cistacpodcast https://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript   My faith has grown leaps and bounds And with it so has my understanding of just how little I know about Easter.    There is no greater moment in our faith and arguably in the world than the resurrection of Jesus. In a moment in time the world swapped its axis and forever changed. So too has our knowledge of the beautiful history surrounding our celebration with our brothers and sisters in the faith in Easter. How should we posture our hearts, daily, in reflection upon a magnificent moment in time.    Guest: Alexander Shaia   Alexander was born and raised in Birmingham, AL. Studied at Notre Dame and then went on the same quest we all do to navigate our life and our faith together and the result is disarmingly beautiful. Please go and get his latest book Heart and Mind (Second Edition) you will be pleased that you did. Sit back, take some notes and lets talk about Jesus!   Heart and Mind: The Four-Gospel Journey for Radical Transformation:  Amazon   Connect with Alexander on Facebook, as well as https://www.quadratos.com/.   Special Music for this episode was provided by Matt Tipton.    Tracks include: Blessed, But God, and As One from the album Ephesians.   Find their music on iTunes, YouTube as well as Spotify as well as Facebook   You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurch Follow the show: https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/ https://twitter.com/cistacpodcast https://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/  Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript I sit down with the gracious Barbara Brown Taylor to char about her latest book, Holy Envy. This convo centers around faith, honesty, and a willingness to see the best in others. Guest Bio: Barbara Brown Taylor is a best-selling author, teacher, and Episcopal priest.  Her first memoir, Leaving Church, won an Author of the Year award from the Georgia Writers Association in 2006.  Her next two books, An Altar in the World (2010) and Learning to Walk in the Dark (2015), earned places on the New York Times bestseller list.  She has served on the faculties of Piedmont College, Columbia Theological Seminary, Candler School of Theology at Emory University, McAfee School of Theology at Mercer University, and the Certificate in Theological Studies program at Arrendale State Prison for Women in Alto, Georgia.  In 2014 TIME included her on its annual list of Most Influential People; in 2015 she was named Georgia Woman of the Year; in 2016 she received the President’s Medal at the Chautauqua Institution in New York.  Her fourteenth book, Holy Envy, was released by HarperOne in March 2019.   Music this week by Elle Limebear Tracks Include: Holding Me Still, Maker of The Moon, Call On Your Name You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurch Follow the show: https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/ https://twitter.com/cistacpodcast https://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript I sit down with Steve, via the internet, to discuss what honesty in faith looks like. How do we make room for doubts and fears? How do we see this mirrored in Scripture and in the life of Jesus? Guest Bio: For nearly two decades, Steve Daugherty has been an ordained pastor, storyteller, and counselor, and has served for 13 years at Crosspointe Church in Cary, NC. Steve's writing and speaking, are enjoyed by people around the world who feel drawn to the peace and love of Christ but aren’t sure what spiritual community they best fit. He has been married to Kristi since the 20th century, and together they raise three children, Emma, Anna, and Ian in Apex, North Carolina. Learn more at http://www.stevedaugherty.net/ Guest Socials https://twitter.com/STEPD0C https://www.instagram.com/stepd0c/ Music from this Episode is by Citizens; find more info and links to their music at https://wearecitizens.net/ Tracks Include: Fear, Strength and Beauty, How Great Thou Art You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurch Follow the show: https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/ https://twitter.com/cistacpodcast https://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/    Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript I get it, I do, we live in a world that is geared for some to start halfway down the track in the race to finish this mile. I'm a guy, happily born down the track, but this doesn't mean it is the correct view does it? So what do we do? Guest Bios: Carolyn Custis James (BA in Sociology, MA in Biblical Studies) is an award winning author who thinks deeply about what it means to be a female follower of Jesus in a postmodern world. As a cancer survivor, she is grateful to be alive and determined to address the issues that matter most. She blogs here at www.carolyncustisjames.com and as a Leading Voice for Missio Alliance. She has also blogged at Huffington Post/Religion. Her speaking and writing ministry is dedicated to addressing the deeper needs which confront both women and men as they endeavor to extend God’s kingdom together in a messy and complicated world. Carolyn’s books have been described as “provocative,” “honest,” and “ground-breaking.” Music from this Episode is by Tina Boonstra Tracks Include: Prodigal, I Think I See You Now, Find You You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurch Follow the show: https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/ https://twitter.com/cistacpodcast https://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript We have a gun problem here in America; but more importantly we have a heart problem. What could it look like for us if we possibly dealt with the trauma and pain they caused? When we realize we've idolized them and begin again, telling a new story of Jesus. Guest Bios: SHANE CLAIBORNE is a bestselling author, renowned activist, sought-after speaker, and self-proclaimed “recovering sinner.” He writes and speaks around the world about peacemaking, social justice, and Jesus, and is the author or coauthor of numerous books, including The Irresistible Revolution, Jesus for President, and Executing Grace. Follow him on Twitter (@shaneclaiborne), on Facebook (ShaneClaiborne), http://www.shaneclaiborne.com/ and at www.redletterchristians.org. MICHAEL MARTIN is founder and executive director of RAWtools Inc. and blogs at RAWtools.org. RAWtools turns guns into garden tools (and other lovely things), resourcing communities with nonviolent confrontation skills in an effort to turn stories of violence into stories of creation. More information about the tour for Beating Guns at https://www.beatingguns.com/ Music from this Episode is by Hills X Hills. Tracks Include: With You, Feels Like Home, Learning to Fly You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurch Follow the show: https://www.facebook.com/CanISayThisAtChurch/ https://twitter.com/cistacpodcast https://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/    Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript We all are longing and, if we are honest, looking for true touch. Not a sexual one, not a "compassionate one", but one that holds us at the core of who we were created to always be. How do we embrace this though? Luigi Gioia and I discuss. Guest Bio: Luigi Gioia is Professor of Systematic Theology at the Pontifical University of Sant'Anselmo in Rome and Research Associate of the Von Hügel Institute (Cambridge). In the past four years he has preached spiritual retreats in the UK, France, USA, Canada, Australia, Korea, China, Philippines and he has published widely in scholarly reviews. He is currently Visiting Scholar of the Divinity Faculty at Cambridge University. @br_luigi_gioia Music from this Episode is by William Matthews from his latest release KOSMOS. Tracks Include: You & Me, In The Grey, KOSMOS You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurch  Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript James and I sat down to discuss what happens when truth is used as a weapon and how we can possibly better deal with truth. Is it absolute? Is it not? Does it matter?  Guest Bio: James P. Danaher, Ph.D. is Professor of Philosophy and Head of the Philosophy Department at Nyack College, Nyack, NY. He is the author of Contemplative Prayer (Cascade, 2011), Jesus After Modernity (Pickwick, 2011), Eyes that See, Ears that Hear (Liquori, 2006), Postmodern Christianity and the Reconstruction of the Christian Mind (Academica Press, 2001), and over seventy articles that have appeared in a variety of philosophy and theology journals. http://www.jamespdanaher.com/ Music from this Episode is by Ben and Noelle Kilgore Tracks Include:  Oh My Soul, Love Conquers All, Grace Grace You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurchAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript Do you ever find yourself reading the Bible and coming away going..."wait! what does this mean?"? Me too; which is why I'm so happy to release this weeks conversation with Pete Enns on How The Bible Actually Works*... Guest Bio: Peter Enns (Ph.D. Harvard University) is Abram S. Clemens professor of Biblical Studies at Eastern University. He has taught undergraduate, seminary, and doctoral courses at numerous other schools, including Princeton Theological Seminary, Harvard Divinity School, and Temple University. Pete speaks and writes regularly to diverse audiences about the intersection of the ancient setting of Bible and contemporary Christian faith. He is a frequent contributor to journals and encyclopedias, and has written, edited, and contributed to nearly 20 books, including The Sin of Certainty: Why God Desires Our Trust More than Our “Correct” Beliefs; The Bible Tells Me So: Why Defending Scripture Has Made Us Unable to Read It, Inspiration and Incarnation: Evangelicals and the Problem of the Old Testament, and The Evolution of Adam: What the Bible Does and Doesn’t Say about Human Origins. Enns resides in suburban Philadelphia with his wife Susan. His popular blog, The Bible for Normal People, can be found at peteenns.com. Music for this episode is from Matt Tipton featuring tracks from his newest release called Blessed King.  Tracks Include:  I Will Comfort You, Romans V, Thanks Be To God, Blessed King You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurchAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript Alexander joins the show to discuss the radiance and beauty of Christ. How does our language impact our thoughts on Christ?  Guest Bio: Born and raised in Birmingham, Alabama, Alexander grew up as part of a large extended family that had emigrated from Lebanon a generation previously. He grew up with the ancient traditions of Maronite Catholicism and was expected to become a priest, a family tradition since the year 1300. Alexander was led otherwise. He attended the University of Notre Dame and received a degree in Cultural Anthropology. Next came a Master's in Counseling Education, a Master's in Religious Education, a graduate certificate in Pastoral Psychotherapy, and a Ph.D. in Clinical Psychology. His training includes time in Switzerland with Jungian analyst, and founder of Sandplay Psychotherapy, Dora M. Kalff. Returning to the United States, years of retreat ministry, private practice, teaching, leading trainings and study continued to build on a life-long practice of prayer. Beginning in 2001, Alexander's professional life changed from being solely a speaker to also becoming an author. From his primary work as a psychologist, spiritual director, and liturgist, he has moved to being a widely sought teacher, trainer, and inspiring keynote speaker. Music this week provided by Joshua Leventhal Tracks Include: Goliath, Eternity, Steadfast You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurchAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript What is God like? What is salvation like? What, then, is humanity like? Perhaps we are all depraved, born this way, perhaps we are simply wounded and know not any better. Is it possible though that what we are is more? A conversation on the Beautiful Gospel Guest Bio: Chuck McKnight is a progressive Christian blogger at Patheos.com and a soon-to-be-published author. He lives with his wife and three kids in Washington state. Find his blog at https://www.patheos.com/blogs/hippieheretic/ Further Reading on the topic: https://www.patheos.com/blogs/hippieheretic/2017/05/beautiful-gospel-wheat-not-tulip-daisy-roses.html Distilled with Danny Prada:   https://heartwaychurch.podbean.com/e/the-gospel-is-better-than-you-think-792017/   Music this week by Alice Pisano; connect with her right here. https://www.alicepisano.com/ Tracks: American Girls, Celebrate Life, Lost in the Crowd You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurchAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript Prayer is, at all times, more than we expect and less that we expect. Through self-reflection and communing with the Divine we see God in new ways and see ourselves through a lens of the eyes of the Divine as well. I hope you enjoy this convo with Justin and Scott. Guest Bios: McRoberts, a songwriter and retreat leader, and Erickson, an artist and creative storyteller, believe that we all have an innate desire to commune and communicate with God. But they know that it can sometimes feel contrived or unnatural. In Prayer, they invite readers to explore prayer in a fresh way with memorable, poetic prayers and stunning, thoughtful artwork (I’ve included some samples below). Their book is truly a work of art designed to inform and inspire readers to join in an intimate and ongoing conversation with God. They share meditations and suggested practices (such as journaling and fasting) throughout the book to help readers tune into what God is doing in them. With 40 prayers throughout the book, Prayer lends itself perfectly to an observance of the 40 days of Lent. Connect with them at: http://scottericksonart.com/ and http://www.justinmcroberts.com/ Music this week by Justin McRoberts Tracks: Everything Has Changed, Candles and Kerosene, Just Like You Said, I Know You're That Way, Too You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurchAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript A conversation on what it could look like to speak prophetically for today's culture, as a follower of Christ. More importantly-some honesty on how to be mindful not to become the new "christian machine" in doing so.  Guest Bio: Mark Van Steenwyk is the Executive Director at CPI. Mark is a writer, teacher, organizer, and spiritual director. For nearly 15 years, Mark has sown seeds of subversive spirituality throughout North America. He co-founded the Mennonite Worker in Minneapolis in 2004 with his wife Amy. Mark is the author of That Holy Anarchist, The unKingdom of God, and A Wolf at the Gate. You can find out more about Mark here. Music for this episode provided by Built by Titan find more of his music at https://www.builtbytitan.com/ Tracks: The Heart & The Blood, Dragon (feat. Skybourne), Into the Mist You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurchAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript Evil and all the problems it brings is the crucial point for all people. We turn away entirely angry at whatever God couldn't prevent it. But what if God Can't? Guest Bio: Thomas Jay Oord is a theologian, philosopher, and scholar of multi-disciplinary studies. He is an award-winning author or editor of more than twenty-five books and an award-winning professor. Oord is known for his contributions to research on love, open and relational theology, issues in science and religion, and freedom for transformation. He is or has been president of several scholarly societies and lectures at institutions and churches around the globe. Oord blogs frequently at his website: http://thomasjayoord.com and find his latest book at http://godcant.com Music this week by Becca Bradley who can be found at https://www.beccabradleymusic.com/ Tracks: Holy, Holy, Holy,, Good Shepherd of My Soul, It is Well, The Sun Will Rise Again You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurchAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript We like to think of ourselves, Americans, as the audience of the stories of the Bible. Tending to relate to the main characters of the Bible and often glossing over the fact that the Bible is written to a people that are underfoot of oppressive, militaristic, super-powerful nations. So America...we need to begin to wrestle with the fact that we aren't Israel we are most likely Babylon. Guest Bio: Brian Zahnd is the founder and lead pastor of Word of Life Church, a non-denominational Christian congregation in Saint Joseph, Missouri. Brian and his wife, Peri, founded the church in 1981. Brian is also the author of several books, including, Sinners in the Hands of a Loving God, Water to Wine, A Farewell To Mars, Beauty Will Save the World, and Unconditional?: The Call of Jesus to Radical Forgiveness. Guest Socials: https://brianzahnd.com/ https://twitter.com/BrianZahnd Music this week by Andrew Word find him at http://www.andrewword.com/ Tracks: Unfailing, All That Breathes, Oh the Morning You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurch  Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript If we stop using the Bible as a weapon, if we literally stop throwing it at peoples heads trying to knock some Jesus into them...what would that look like? What if we were called to Survive the Bible?  Guest Bio: Christian Piatt is an author, editor, speaker, musician, and spoken-word artist. He serves as the president and CEO for BookPros (BookPros.com) and as a podcast producer for the ELCA, among others. He is the creator of the Banned Questions book series and the author of several books, including Leaving A-Holiness Behind Guest Socials: https://www.facebook.com/christianpiattauthor https://twitter.com/christianpiatt Music this week provided by Loud Harp:  Tracks Included: [73] The Nearness of You, All That You Say, Immanuel, No Distance Anymore Find Loud Harp at http://www.loudharp.com/ You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurch  Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Hey you all! Happy New Years Eve!  I am blown away by this first year; what I thought would be a short lived thing has turned into something that I see God anew through. It's turned into a community that I cherish and I'm humbled that you are all here.  I can't wait for 2019   SethAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript America is the greatest country on the planet! We are a bastion of hope and freedom! We are a Christian nation! Or are we?  Guest Bio: Jonathan P. Walton is an area ministry director for InterVarsity Christian Fellowship's New York/New Jersey region. He previously served for ten years as director of the New York City Urban Project. He writes regularly for Huffington Post, medium.com, and is the author of three books of poetry and short stories. Jonathan's work fighting human trafficking has been featured in the Christian Post, New York Daily News, and King Kulture. He has been named one of Christianity Today's 33 Under 33, won a Young Christian Leaders World Changer award, and was honored as one of New York's New Abolitionists. He is a member of New Life Fellowship and lives with his wife, daughter, and dog in New York City. To learn more listen to his seminar, "How to Actually Do Racial Reconciliation & Pursue Racial Justice" from Urbana '15. Music in the show was from Royce Lovett:  Tracks Include: Ballad (Fly), Running, and Up For Love You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurchAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript This week I chat with John Dominic Crossan about Christmas and the birth of Christ. His views though are ones that in part resonate easily but at the same time hold my mind in tension. Guest Bio: John Dominic Crossan is regarded as one of the preeminent New Testament scholars especially when it comes to Jesus. Dr. Crossan received his Doctor of Divinity at St. Patrick’s College, Maynooth, the Irish national seminary and completed two additional years of study in biblical languages at the Pontifical Biblical Institute in Rome. He completed two additional years of study in archeology at the Ecole Biblique in Jordanian East Jerusalem.  Find more from Dr. Crossan at http://www.johndominiccrossan.com/ and at Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/OfficialJohnDominicCrossan/ Music in today's episode is from Smile in the Mystery by John Mark McMillan's recent released Christmas album.  Tracks: Baby Son, Lights, Silent Night/Smile In the Mystery Find John's music everywhere good jams are played!  You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurchAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript As you listen and watch people discuss faith and God it always turns to "this says this!" or "you're taking that wrong". But what if we embraced the mystery? What if we reconnect to the mystical aspects of our faith?  Guest Bio: Mike Morrell is the collaborating author – with Richard Rohr – of the five-time best-seller The Divine Dance: The Trinity and Your Transformation. He’s co-founder of The Buzz Seminar, and a founding organizer of the national justice, arts, and spirituality gathering, The Wild Goose Festival. Mike curates contemplative and community experiences via Relational Yoga, the ManKind Project, (H) Opp and Authentic North Carolina, taking joy in holding space for the extraordinary transformation that can take place at the intersection of anticipation, imagination, and radical acceptance. Mike earned his B.A. in Journalism, Creative Writing, and Religion from Berry College, has studied Strategic Foresight at the graduate level under Futurist Jay Gary, and is earning his Religion and Ecology certification from Yale’s Divinity School and School of Forestry, overseen by Mary Evelyn Tucker, John Grim, and Brian Swimme. Mike is also an avid writer, publishing consultant, author coach, futurist, and curator of the book-reviewing community at TheSpeakeasy.info. He lives with his wife and two daughters in Asheville, North Carolina. You can read Mike’s ongoing exploration of Spirit, Culture, and Permaculture – and receive updates on his gatherings and workshops – right here. Socials: Connect with you on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram. Music in today's episode is from Ecclesia and includes the tracks:  Unshackled, Baptized in Fire, and Hands & Feet.  You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurchAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Episode Transcript This week I chat with John Mark McMillan about what it looks like to be honest in music and how that impacts the way we think about and talk about God.  Guest Bio: JOHN MARK MCMILLAN is something of an anomaly. A singer-songwriter, bending genres and defying categorization by carving out his own unique and independent path. With an ear for melody and a poet's eye for metaphor, no topic has been off-limits. While each album has continued to explore new territory, it's McMillan's ability to give lyric and language to the human experience that many consider his greatest gift.  Additional information on John Mark McMillan can be found at JohnMarkMcMillan.com, Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. Music in today's episode includes the tracks:  Monsters Talk (feat. Bear Rinehart), Magic Mirror, Future/Past, and Nothing Stands between us.  Find John's music everywhere good jams are played!  You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurchAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript So much of what we argue about is entirely, usually, worth it. But how do we do so while actually coming from a foundation of moral ethics. What does the term moral ethics even mean?  Guest Bio:  Dr. David P Gushee is Distinguished University Professor of Christian Ethics and Director of the Center for Theology and Public Life at Mercer University, where he has served for eleven years.  Widely regarded as one of the world's leading Christian ethicists, he is the author, co-author, editor or co-editor of 22 books and hundreds of articles in his field, including Righteous Gentiles of the Holocaust, Kingdom Ethics, The Sacredness of Human Life, Evangelical Ethics, A Letter to My Anxious Christian Friends, Still Christian, and the forthcoming Moral Leadership for a Divided Age: Fourteen People Who Dared to Change Our World. Dr Gushee was elected by his peers to serve as the current President of the American Academy of Religion and the immediate Past-President of the Society of Christian Ethics, a very rare combination for any religion scholar. Guest Socials: https://www.facebook.com/dpgushee https://twitter.com/dpgushee https://www.instagram.com/dpgushee/ http://www.davidpgushee.com/   Music featured in todays episode provided by Reanne Kyla Find her at: https://reannekyla.com/ Tracks featured are: The Crave, Silent Killer, and Sacred Words You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurch  Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Episode Transcript We all want good things don't we? I know I do but here is the thing...that's not life. Life is messy, sometimes hateful, and often overwhelming. So how then do we search for God and find that God is indeed much better than good? Guest Bio:  Luke Norsworthy (MDiv, Abilene Christian University) is the senior minister of the 1,500-member Westover Hills Church of Christ in Austin, Texas. A frequent speaker at universities, retreats, and conferences, he is the host of the popular Newsworthy with Norsworthy podcast on which he has rubbed shoulders with some of the brightest and most prominent voices in theology, including N. T. Wright, Barbara Brown Taylor, Miroslav Volf, Walter Brueggemann, John Ortberg, and others. He lives in Austin, Texas, with his wife and three daughters.  Find God Over Good everywhere good books are sold as well at https://lukenorsworthy.com/book/ Guest Socials: https://lukenorsworthy.com/, @LukeNorsworthy, https://www.instagram.com/lukenors/ Music featured in todays episode provided by Tim Be Told Tracks Including: Faith and Time, Set a Fire, The Great Divide Find them at:  https://www.timbetold.com/ https://www.facebook.com/timbetold https://www.instagram.com/timbetold/ https://twitter.com/timbetold You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurch  Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Episode Transcript: https://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/transcripts/2020/4/10/52-conspiring-prayer-with-mark-karris-transcriptPrayer. We are all called to do it and regardless of our religion we all do some form of it. Meditation, Contemplative, Centering, there are many methods. But when it comes to most "western church" all we do is petitionary prayer. In and of itself this may not be wholly wrong but what does it say about God when He doesn't answer?Guest Bio: Mark Karris is the author of Divine Echoes, a husband, license marriage and family therapist, ordained pastor, theologian, wrtier, recording artist, Red Cross volunteer and all around biophilic.He has received a Masters in Counseling through the Alliance of Graduate School of Counseling in Nyack, N.Y., a Master of Divinity from drew Theological Schhol in N.J., and currently working through his PsyD from Alliant International University in San Diego. Guest Socials: http://conspiringprayer.com/https://www.facebook.com/DivineEchoesConspiringPrayerhttps://twitter.com/Mark_TherapistMusic Provided by Kris Neel find more of his music at https://www.krisneel.com/Tracks Included: Painted Lights, Friends, and Forget TomorrowYou can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurchAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Episode Transcript So many of us suffer from stress and anxiety and the world that we live in continues to press us down. How do we truly find peace and how do we see the Kingdom of God in a way that we can embody it and share it with those in our lives. Listen in as Brandon and I discuss just that.  Guest Bio:  Brandon Andress is the author of three books: Beauty in the Wreckage- Finding Peace in the Age of Outrage (2018); AND THEN THE END WILL COME! (2013); Unearthed– How Discovering the Kingdom of God Will Transform the Church and Change the World (2010) He podcasts at Outside the Walls (Available on iTunes, Spotify, Google Play, and Stitcher) and writes for his popular blogs Brandon Andress and A Joyful Procession. Brandon earned his MBA from Indiana Wesleyan University and his BA in Psychology from Hanover College. He loves the outdoors, hiking, camping, and traveling. Music featured in todays episode provided by The Windtalkers Tracks Including: find them at: All Creation Groans, Far Side, Wheat & Tares Find them at: https://www.facebook.com/windtalkin https://www.instagram.com/windtalkin/ You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurch  Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Thanksgiving is a beautiful month for Gratitude and what better way to talk about it than with intention and purpose. I hope you'll enjoy this special re-release of "Grateful" with Dr. Diana Butler Bass. Four out of five Americans have said that they feel gratitude in their daily lives, but this seems to be at odds with the discontent that permeates modern society. How do we navigate the chasm between our desire to be grateful and our ability to behave gratefully—a divide that influences our understanding of morality, worship, and institutional religion itself. Join in this week as I discuss gratitude and an economy of grace and love with Dr. Diana Butler Bass. Guest Bio: Diana Butler Bass is the author of eight books on American religion, including Christianity After Religion, Christianity for the Rest of Us, and A People's History of Christianity. She holds a Ph.D. in Religious Studies from Duke University, has taught at the college and graduate level, and is currently an independent scholar. She was a columnist for the New York Times Syndicate, and blogs for the Huffington Post and the Washington Post on issues of religion, spirituality, and culture. Bass is a popular speaker at conferences, colleges and universities, and churches across North America. She lives in Alexandria, Virginia, with her husband, daughter, and dog. Connect with Diana at her website is dianabutlerbass.com, she can be followed on Twitter at @dianabutlerbass, and Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/d.butler.bass/ Special Music for this episode was provided by The Lowly Heirs. The band was formed in 2017 with the desire to worship God and bring hope of the good news of Jesus Christ to the world. Their debut EP just dropped so go out and get it; it's very good. Links for their music below! Tracks in episode include: I Will, May I Run, Informal Exchange iTunes, Spotify and https://www.thelowlyheirs.com/ Follow on the Socials! Facebook: The Lowly Heirs Twitter: @thelowlyheirs Instagram: The Lowly Heirs Youtube: The Lowly Heirs You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  http://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurchAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript What is the narrative of scripture? How does liberation and oppression impact us today and tomorrow? How do we live out a call to be a prophetic voice in todays world?  Guest Bio:  Walter Brueggemann is surely one of the most influential Bible interpreters of our time. He is the author of over one hundred books and numerous scholarly articles. He continues to be a highly sought-after speaker. Brueggemann was born in Tilden, Nebraska in 1933. He often speaks of the influence of his father, a German Evangelical pastor. Brueggemann attended Elmhurst College, graduating in 1955 with an A.B. He went on to Eden Theological Seminary, earning a B.D. (equivalent to today’s M.Div.) in 1958. He completed his formal theological education at Union Theological Seminary in 1961, earning the Th.D. under the primary guidance of James Muilenburg. While teaching at Eden, he earned a Ph.D. in education at St. Louis University.   Guest Socials:  https://twitter.com/WaltBrueggemann https://www.facebook.com/walterbrueggemannfans https://www.walterbrueggemann.com/ Music Provided by Shofar Band Find them at: https://www.shofarband.com/ Todays Tracks are from their newest release Behold: You are the Potter, Christ the Lord, Christ our King You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurchAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Episode Transcript l Patreon Too many people are overwhelmed and holding onto deep suffering, unable to catch their breath in a world that tells them to fake it till they make it. As the pressure of fear, pain, anxiety, and anger build, sooner or later these individuals are going to explode that’s no way to live. Guest Bio:  Steve Austin was a pastor when he nearly died by suicide. A second chance, grueling recovery, and years of honest conversation allowed Steve to find healing and purpose. It’s evident in his speaking, podcasting, coaching, and Amazon bestseller, From Pastor to a Psych Ward: he helps overwhelmed people get their lives back. Steve lives in Birmingham, Alabama, with his wife, Lindsey, and their two children. Find him online at iamsteveaustin.com.   Guest Socials:  Facebook, YouTube,Twitter @iamsteveaustin Music Provided by Harbor at Sea find more of their music on Facebook, Twitter and Spotify Tracks Included: Find Me Out, Bottomless, Death's Song You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurchAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

So much could be said about Óscar Romero as he was so many things to so many people. But some stories are best laid out with purpose and intention.  In this series of bonus episodes Paul Thomas reflects on the life and ministry of Saint Óscar Romero by way of providing context to this time in history of El Salvador. Connect with Paul Thomas at https://www.paulthomasauthor.com/ Support the show on Patreon at www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurch Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

It’s time to take it back by reclaiming the poetry of the ancient tradition of Scripture. And that’s what The Butterflies in God’s Stomach is all about. The Bible is so much more than piles of text of which we get dogma...it's a love story.  Guest Bio:  Paul spent the first half of his adult life helping people gain access to safe, clean drinking water. It was great work, but he realized it was part of something bigger, something that involves you, and the influence you’ll have—whether you like it or not—in deciding the destiny of heaven and earth.  For the first time ever, we could actually end the story of life on earth by environmental degradation, nuclear war, artificial intelligence gone awry, or one of the dozen deaths we’ll invent next year. The only way to avoid death and destruction is to find ourselves a love story, and get engaged. That’s what the Bible is about, but religious dogmatists have stolen it from the poets, prophets, and people who wrote it, and about whose it was written. It’s time to take it back by reclaiming the poetry of the ancient tradition of Scripture. And that’s what The Butterflies in God’s Stomach is all about.  Get more information about the upcoming Book at http://butterfliesbook.com/   Guest Socials:  https://www.paulthomasauthor.com/, https://www.facebook.com/PaulThomasAuthor/, YouTube, Music Provided by Kings Kaleidoscope. Find more of their music at kingskaleidoscope.com. Tracks Included:  You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurchAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

  Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript   Does your church practice inclusion in a way that is truly self evident? What does that even mean? If I'm inclusive what do I need to change and what, if anything, will that mean for my comfort zones? Join Pastor Brandan and I in this conversation. Guest Bio: Brandan Robertson is a noted author, activist, and pastor, working at the intersections of spirituality and social renewal. Robertson currently serves as the Lead Pastor of Missiongathering Christian Church in San Diego, CA and works as an instructor, consultant, and organizer with various national and international NGO’s, religious denominations, and governmental organizations.   Named by the Human Rights Campaign as one of the top faith-leaders leading the fight for human rights, Robertson has been a committed advocate for justice and human rights around the world, partnering with governments and non-profits ranging from the White House and the State Department to Senators from the Republic of Ireland and the State of Colorado. He served as the past spokesperson of Evangelicals For Marriage Equality and developed the Evangelical Outreach Program for Faith In Public Life and the Bridging the Divides Program for Interfaith Alliance of Colorado.  Robertson received his B.A. in Pastoral Ministry and Theology from Moody Bible Institute and his Masters of Theological Studies focused on sexual and gender justice from Iliff School of Theology. He currently resides in San Diego, CA.  Guest Socials: @BrandanJR; brandanrobertson.com; https://www.facebook.com/brandanjrobertson Music Provided by Jordan Searcy Get all the latest from Jordy at jordysearcymusic.com. Tracks Included: Explaining Jesus, Love & War in Your Twenties, Always / Almost You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  What are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurchAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Episode Transcript What does it look like to actually focus on what it means to truly follow Christ. To look past just the text of the Bible and look for the heart of the gospel. When we are able to do this something shifts and the world cannot remain the same as it was yesterday; and this is good.  Guest Bio: Danny graduated from Palm Beach Atlantic University with a Bachelor of Arts in Ministry Leadership, and from the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary with a Master of Divinity. He has served in a multitude of ministerial capacities over the years, including several pastoral and chaplaincy positions in both mega-churches and non-profit organizations. Danny is also in the process of working towards his Doctor of Ministry degree at Fuller Theological Seminary. Follow Danny on the Socials: Intagram: d_prada, Twitter: @danny_prada Heartway Church:https://www.heartwaychurch.com Music for this episode is provided by Ryan McAllister Tracks: Built for Flying, Prodigal, The Way Home Find selections from todays episode on the Spotify playlist for Can I Say This at Church.  If you haven't yet, consider becoming a supporter of the show on Patreon. Each and every person there is an active member and contributor to the conversations that are happening weekly. I appreciate you.  www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurchAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Episode Transcript Too often, our honest questions about faith are met with cold confidence and easy answers. But false certitude doesn't result in strong faith—it results in disillusionment, or worse, in a dogmatic, overweening faith unable to see itself or its object clearly. Pastors and our church leaders are no different.  Guest Bio: Austin Fischer is the Lead Pastor at Vista Community Church in Temple, TX. He is a graduate of Truett Seminary at Baylor University. He is the author of "Young, Restless, No Longer Reformed"; with a new work coming out later this year.  He writes and speaks and you can follow him online at purpletheology.com Guest Socials: Twitter: @AustinTFischer Web: www.purpletheology.com   Special Music for this episode was provided by The Brilliance. Tracks include: Hear our Prayer, Prayers of the People, and Lift Your Voice More information can be gotten right here: thebrilliancemusic.com You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  I am so grateful for you and want to invite you to become a part of the beloved community being developed here. Consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurch  Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Episode Transcript  What does the future of Christianity look like? If you're like me you see seismic shifts in our religious groups and wonder where they lead too. Brian McLaren and I discuss... Guest Bio: Brian D. McLaren is an author, speaker, activist, and public theologian. A former college English teacher and pastor, he is a passionate advocate for “a new kind of Christianity” – just, generous, and working with people of all faiths for the common good. He is an Auburn Senior Fellow and a leader in the Convergence Network, through which he is developing an innovative training/mentoring program for pastors, church planters, and lay leaders called Convergence Leadership Project. He works closely with the Center for Progressive Renewal/Convergence, the Wild Goose Festival and the Fair Food Program‘s Faith Working Group. Guest Socials: https://twitter.com/brianmclaren; https://www.facebook.com/mclaren.brian/ Music Provided by Louise Gregg who is a worship leader, songwriter, and musician based in Manchester, UK (if you've never been, you should come and visit!) and part of Vinelife Church community. Find Louise at louisegregg.com. Tracks Included: Heart Runs To, Perfect Love, Hush You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  I invite you to become a part of this community of listeners being developed here. Consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurchAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript Turn on the TV at any moment in time and you'll see we have an obsession with the image of our bodies, but why? Are we not just the way we should be? What does life look like if we somehow transform ourselves to a different measurement of beauty? Should we even care too?  Guest Bio: J. Nicole Morgan is a sought-after speaker on the topic of fat positivity. She is the co-host of the podcast Fat and Faithful and her writing has been featured in Christianity Today, Sojourners, and Christ and Pop Culture. Nicole earned her master of theological studies from Palmer Seminary of Eastern University. Guest Socials: Twitter: @jnicolemorgan Facebook Web: https://jnicolemorgan.com/ Instagram: jnicolemorgan Special Music for this episode was provided by The Many More information about the https://www.themanyarehere.com/ You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  I am so grateful for you and want to invite you to become a part of the beloved community being developed here. Consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurchAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript The story of creation and how this universe that we swirl around in is ordered is something that has always bubbled in my head. Each time I think I have it figured out I learn something new that entirely shifts my perspective. Can a historical study of the Old Testament help?  Guest Bio: John H. Walton (PhD, Hebrew Union College) is professor of Old Testament at Wheaton College and Graduate School. Previously he was professor of Old Testament at Moody Bible Institute in Chicago for twenty years. Some of Walton's books include The Lost World of Adam and Eve, The Lost World of Scripture, The Lost World of Genesis One,Ancient Near Eastern Thought and the Old Testament, The Essential Bible Companion, The NIV Application Commentary: Genesis, and The IVP Bible Background Commentary: Old Testament (with Victor Matthews and Mark Chavalas). Walton's ministry experience includes church classes for all age groups, high school Bible studies, and adult Sunday school classes, as well as serving as a teacher for "The Bible in 90 Days." John and his wife, Kim, live in Wheaton, Illinois, and have three adult children. Guest Socials: Twitter: Facebook:  Web:  Special Music for this episode was provided by The Silver Pages You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  I am so grateful for you and want to invite you to become a part of the beloved community being developed here. Consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurchAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript Question: Pain, heartache, fear...where do these leave us? Answer: Falling; continuously away from our core being and what we were created to be. So how do we stop? Well, we fall, the opposite way.  Guest Bio: Rev. Barrett Owen Rev. J. Barrett Owen is a pastor, writer, and teacher. His passion is seeing the intersection between divinity, culture, and the church. Through preaching, organizational leadership, and spiritual formation, he desires to help people experience the inclusive love of God.  He received a Bachelor of Arts in Christian Leadership in 2007 from Belmont University, a Master of Divinity in 2010 from McAfee School of Theology at Mercer University, and a Master of Theology in Homiletics in 2012 from Candler School of Theology at Emory University. More info about some of this work in the episode is right here: https://www.instituteforconsciousbeing.org/ **The Paths of Oppression/Power Graphic** Guest Socials: Instagram: jbarrettowen Facebook: Barrett Owen Sermons at First Baptist: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/first-baptist-waynesboro/id1020197159?mt=2 Special Music for this episode was provided by The Silver Pages You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  I am so grateful for you and want to invite you to become a part of the beloved community being developed here. Consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurchAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript How do the books of Song of Songs, Ecclesiastes, Ruth, Lamentations, and Esther impact the daily rhythms of your life? I'll be honest to say they usually don't because I forget they are there and because our churches don't regularly preach them; this must be addressed!  Guest Bio: Robert Williamson Jr. is an associate professor of religious studies at Hendrix College in Conway, Arkansas, where he teaches courses in biblical studies. He is also the founding pastor of Mercy Community Church of Little Rock, a multi-denominational worshiping community that welcomes all people–especially those living on the streets. As both a scholar and pastor, Robert is interested in the ways that the Bible speaks to life in the contemporary world; particularly about the call the Bible places on Christians to resist the powers of systemic injustice that oppress the many in order to enrich the few.   Guest Socials: Twitter: @RWilliamsonjr Facebook: Robert Williamson Jr. Author Web: robertwilliamsonjr.com Special Music for this episode was provided by The Silver Pages You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  I am so grateful for you and want to invite you to become a part of the beloved community being developed here. Consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurchAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript How do we learn to speak about God and the Divine in our world today when all words seem to have precious little meaning? Without using "church-speak" are you able to have an open conversation about the faith you profess?  Guest Bio: Jonathan Merritt is an award-winning writer on religion, culture, and politics. He currently serves as a contributing writer for The Atlanticand contributing editor for The Week.  Jonathan has published more than 3500 articles in respected outlets such as The New York Times, USA Today, Buzzfeed, The Washington Post and Christianity Today. As a respected voice, he regularly contributes commentary to television, print, and radio news outlets and has been interviewed by ABC World News, NPR, CNN, PBS, MSNBC, Fox News, and CBS’ “60 Minutes.” Jonathan is author of several critically-acclaimed books, including Learning to Speak God from Scratch, Jesus is Better Than You Imagined, and A Faith of Our Own: Following Jesus Beyond the Culture Wars. and has collaborated on or ghostwritten more than 50 additional books, with several titles landing on the New York Times, USA Today, or Wall Street Journal bestsellers lists. Additionally, he trains hundreds of young writers through his Write Brilliant course. Guest Socials: Twitter: @JonathanMerritt Facebook: Jonathan Merritt Web: jonathanmerritt.com Instagram: Jonathan_Merritt Special Music for this episode was provided by The Silver Pages You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  I am so grateful for you and want to invite you to become a part of the beloved community being developed here. Consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurchAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript You have a voice. And you have God's permission to use it. But how do we do so in a wise way? How do we find our purpose and the message that we are called to preach and then once we do, how do we speak and engage in a way to meet others in a place of understanding.  Guest Bio: Kathy Khang is a speaker, journalist, and activist. She has worked in campus ministry for more than twenty years, with expertise in issues of gender, ethnicity, justice, and leadership development. She is a columnist for Sojourners magazine, a writer for Faith & Leadership, and a coauthor of More Than Serving Tea: Asian American Women on Expectations, Relationships, Leadership and Faith. Buy Raise Your Voice Special Music for this episode was provided by Rivers and Robots Tracks Include: Home, To The Highest Place, and Dreams You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  I am so grateful for you and want to invite you to become a part of the beloved community being developed here. Consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurchAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript What is it like to actually practice our faith? How often do we sit in contemplation and meet God where He already is in true searching and in a truly Earthshaking moments of worship? Aaron and I discuss what it means to enter into the current of life that is practice-based worship of the Creator of all things.  Guest Bio: Aaron is a liturgist, writer, and pastor in the Chicago area. After leading worship at Mars Hill Church (Grand Rapids, MI) and Willow Creek Church, he created A New Liturgy- a collection of modern liturgical worship recordings. Shortly after, he started a practice-based community at Willow Creek called The Practice.  His new book about a practice-based faith called The Eternal Current: How a Practice-Based Faith Can Save Us from Drowning. Guest Socials: Twitter: @Aaronieq Web: aaronniequist.com Instagram: aaronieq Special Music for this episode was provided by A New Liturgy from the album A New Liturgy No. 6.  Tracks include: Thank You, Benediction, Please Speak  More information about A New Liturgy is at anewliturgy.com You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  I am so grateful for you and want to invite you to become a part of the beloved community being developed here. Consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurchAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript Raise your hand if you think that you are nailing prayer? Good...now keep it raised if you feel like you are praying from a position of happiness, contentment, and joy? This is the goal, or one of the goals, of prayer. How do we do this? Rabbi Evan Moffic and I discuss. Guest Bio: Rabbi Evan Moffic joined Congregation Solel in July 2009 at age 31, after serving three years at Chicago Sinai Congregation. He graduated with high honors from Stanford University in 2000 with a major in history and a senior thesis on Louis Brandeis and the American Zionist movement. He is one of the country’s youngest senior rabbis in the Reform Movement.He has been a guest lecturer at numerous Jewish centers and synagogues around the country and invited to speak to a variety of interfaith groups. His scholarly works have been published in a wide range of journals, newspapers and magazines.Rabbi Moffic is married to Rabbi Arielle Poster Moffic, who is the Director of CoHere Chicago. They are the proud parents of two children, Hannah (2007) and Allie (2009). Get a copy of The Happiness Prayer on Amazon. Guest Socials: Twitter: @ChicagoRabbi Special Music for this episode was provided by West of Here You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  I am so grateful for you and want to invite you to become a part of the beloved community being developed here. Consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurchAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Episode Transcript In a world full of "positive and encouraging for the whole family" what do we do with our faith and life when it's anything but? When labels fail to offer a proper container for the emotions that are swirling around us? How do we deal with grief and honesty? Guest Bio: Derek has been involved in so much: Member of Caedmon's Call / Founder of Noisetrade / Artist / Musician / Producer / and Father.    Guest Socials: Find all of the links to everything you'd ever want from Derek including some free music at... Web: www.derekwebb.com   Special Music for this episode was provided by Derek Webb from his latest album, The Airing of Grief.  Tracks include: The Spirit Bears the Curse, Stop Listening, and Goodbye for Now You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  I am so grateful for you and want to invite you to become a part of the beloved community being developed here. Consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurchAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Episode Transcript What is it like to live in a world where you never really know if you can trust and believe what you are being told. What happens when the train derails? How does our local church help and which local church should you be attending?  Guest Bio: Austin Fischer is the Lead Pastor at Vista Community Church in Temple, TX. He is a graduate of Truett Seminary at Baylor University. He is the author of "Young, Restless, No Longer Reformed"; with a new work coming out later this year.  He writes and speaks and you can follow him online at purpletheology.com Guest Socials: Twitter: @AustinTFischer Web: www.purpletheology.com  Special Music for this episode was provided by Landry Cantrell.  Tracks include: Before You, Gravity, and Fade Out More information can be gotten right here: landrycantrell.com You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  I am so grateful for you and want to invite you to become a part of the beloved community being developed here. Consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurchAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Episode Transcript Guest: Suzanne Stabile How does knowing our Enneagram number help us better navigate life? How could it help us all in really understanding each other better? This 8 got to sit down with Suzanne and it’s so good Guest Bio: Suzanne Stabile is a highly sought-after speaker, teacher, and internationally recognized Enneagram master teacher, having conducted over five hundred workshops. She is the coauthor of the bestseller The Road Back to You and cocreator of the very popular Road Back to You podcast. Along with her husband, Rev. Joseph Stabile, she is cofounder of Life in the Trinity Ministry, a nonprofit, nondenominational ministry committed to the spiritual growth and formation of adults. They have many audio resources available, including;The Enneagram Journey curriculum. Their ministry home, the Micah Center, is located in Dallas, Texas. Find more information about Suzanne at suzannestabile.com Music for todays episode is provided by Paul Zach Find tracks from today’s show on the Can I Say This At Church Podcast Spotify Playlist Support the show at Patreon        Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Episode Transcript Guest: Keith Giles For many Christians, the Bible is the only way to know anything about God. But according to that same Bible, everyone can know God directly through an actual relationship with Jesus. What happens when we begin to release Jesus from the Bible. Guest Bio: Keith Giles is a former pastor who abandoned the pulpit to follow Jesus, and ended up founding a church where 100% of the offering is given away to help the poor in his surrounding community. He is the author of several books including The Power of Weakness and Jesus Untangled. He lives in Orange, California with his wife and two sons. Visit his blog here: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/keithgiles/ Music for this episode was provided by The Silver Pages.  Tracks include: A Steady Run, Indecision and Regret, Take the Ride Follow and engage with them at http://www.thesilverpagesmusic.com You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  If you are here I am so grateful for you and want to invite you to become a part of the beloved community being developed here. Consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurchAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Episode Transcript Guest: Sean C Johnson I had the great joy of sitting down with Sean to discuss a little of his story and how that's impacted his life and music. How do our life experiences impact our music and the true heart of our message? Bio: Sean C Johnson has received national recognition as a ground-breaking artist of his generation.  Being named as one of the top 10 best albums by Soultracks.com, receiving Album of the Year and Singer of the Year by Kingdom Choice Awards, and Album of the Year by Gospel Blue Mic Awards, Sean has already placed his mark in the music industry as an artist to pay close attention to.  Sean C Johnson continues to create music that changes the hearers into doers and leaves a lasting impression on his fans. Follow Sean: Twitter: @SeanCJohnson , Facebook, and online at http://www.seancjohnson.com/ Music in today's episode is from Sean's newest album "Days Like This" Usain Bolt, Cooking, and Foreign Language You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. If you are here I am so grateful for you and want to invite you to become a part of the beloved community being developed here. Consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurch  Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Episode Transcript Who was the Apostle Paul? We've all heard talk about him and around him but the man himself, rarely. Much of our New Testament is here today because of him but who was the man? What more can we learn from Paul separate of only his theology? NT Wright and I discuss in brief. Guest Bio: N.T. Wright is the former Bishop of Durham in the Church of England and one of the world’s leading Bible scholars. He now serves as the Chair of New Testament and Early Christianity at the School of Divinity at the University of St. Andrews. He is one of the world’s leading Bible scholars and a popular author, he has been featured on ABC News, Dateline, The Colbert Report, and Fresh Air. His award-winning books include The Case for the Psalms, How God Became King, Simply Jesus, After You Believe, The Meaning of Jesus (co-authored with Marcus Borg), as well as being the translator for The Kingdom New Testament.  The book this discussion was centered around is his most recent release on Paul. Paul: A Biography Courses you heard about at the end of the show can be found here: http://ntwrightonline.org/ Special Music for this episode was provided by Sleeping at Last.  Tracks include: The Spring, In Her Honor, and Enabling Environment from the Album The Spring Find Sleeping at last music at sleepingatlast.com. Please consider supporting the ministry of Charity Water! Find information about how you can help at https://www.charitywater.org/ You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  If you are here I am so grateful for you and want to invite you to become a part of the beloved community being developed here. Consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurchAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Episode Transcript Guest: Matthew Kaemingk Millions of Muslims have migrated into the West over the past 50 years. Their arrival has ignited a series of fierce public debates about religious freedom and tolerance, terrorism and security, gender and race, and so much more. As Muslims stream into the West, they confront modern democracies with more than an ancient religion, they bring an ancient question as well. How can diverse faiths live together? Bio:  Rev. Dr. Matthew Kaemingk is an assistant professor of Christian Ethics at Fuller Theological Seminary and the associate dean of Fuller Texas in Houston. Matthew also serves as a fellow at the Center for Public Justice and a scholar-in-residence at the De Pree Center for Christian Leadership. Matthew's research and teaching focus on religious pluralism and political ethics, workplace theology, theology and culture, and Reformed public theology. He is the author of Christian Hospitality and Muslim Immigration in an Age of Fear. Connect with Matthew on twitter @matthewkaemingk and online at www.matthewkaemingk.com Special Music for this episode was provided by Salt of the Sound.  Tracks include: Be Still, My Soul, I Need Thee Every Hour, Embers (feat. Narrow Skies) Find their beautiful music on YouTube as well as Spotify as well as Facebook, Twitter and at https://saltofthesound.com/ You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  If you are here I am so grateful for you and want to invite you to become a part of the beloved community being developed here. Consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  http://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurchAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Episode Transcript Guest: Daniel Hill How pervasive is white supremacy? How offended were you when you just read that last sentence? It's so pervasive that it's considered the baseline and that is part of our problem. How we does the Church and our culture learn to embrace theologies that aren't inherently elevating "whiteness". We as a church and a society have to stop ignoring race but must further educate ourselves and then act in accordance with that. Bio: Daniel Hill is the founding and senior pastor of River City Community Church, a vibrant, multiethnic church in the Humboldt Park neighborhood of Chicago. He is the author of 10:10: Life to the Fullest and White Awake You can follow Daniel on Twitter @danielhill1336 Prior to starting River City, Daniel worked in the business world before serving five years on the staff of Willow Creek Community Church in the Chicago suburbs. He has a business degree from Purdue University, an MA in theology from Moody Bible Institute, a certificate in church-based community and economic development from Harvard Divinity School, and a DMin from Northern Baptist Theological Seminary. He is married to Elizabeth, who is a professor of psychology, and they are the proud parents of two children. Special Music for this episode was provided by musician Erik Nieder Tracks include: There's a River, For Heaven's Sake, When Grace Called My Name, Adore Find his music and socials: iTunes, YouTube, Instagram, as well as Spotify as well as Facebook, Twitter and at eriknieder.com You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  If you are here I am so grateful for you and want to invite you to become a part of the beloved community being developed here. Consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  http://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurch  Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Episode Transcript Guest: Bonnie Kristian Every denomination has a tentpole issue that matters more than others, and so do most Christians. Do we really know all our options though? I know I didn't and I'm better for looking at the 'whole menu'. Bonnie has written a fantastic book on just this thought. The differences in the beliefs of some of the pillars of our faith. Bio:  Bonnie Kristian is a theological and political writer with a national following. She is the weekend editor at The Week and a foreign policy fellow at Defense Priorities, and her work has appeared at Time Magazine, CNN, Politico, USA Today, Relevant Magazine, The Hill, and The American Conservative, among other outlets. Follow Bonnie @bonniekristian Special Music for this episode was provided by Wendell Kimbrough from his latest album Come To Me.  Tracks include: Come to Me, O God Do Not Be Silent (Psalm 83), The Goodness of the Lord Find his music at http://www.wendellk.com/ You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  If you are here I am so grateful for you and want to invite you to become a part of the beloved community being developed here. Consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  http://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurchAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Episode Transcript Guest: David Zach Some topics are supposed to be off limits. Race, gender, sex, slavery. But they are all more connected than we know. Except for a few weeks out of the year we in American tend to forget that today there are more slaves than at any other time in our planets recorded history; and we are happily ignorant. But we can't be any longer. David Zach, from Remedy Drive, and I discuss what it looks like to see humans being treated like simple commodities and how we are able to help. Bio:  David is a founding member, singer, writer for the band Remedy Drive. He serves currently as a volunteer with the Exodus Road. He's an abolitionist, musician, and human rights advocate. David and his band, Remedy Drive, are using music to help make a free world. This rock band travels the states to perform concerts while advocating and raising funds to fight slavery. Not only are many of their songs focused on abolition and justice. Special Music for this episode was provided by Remedy Drive from their most recent The North Start.  Tracks include: Brighter than Apathy, Polaris, Warlike, Redemption Song, Sunlight On Her Face Find the music, YouTube, Instagram as well as Spotify as well as Facebook, Twitter and at https://www.remedydrive.com/ You can get involved and partnership with the Exodus Road right here. Merch You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  Follow the Show: Facebook / Twitter / Instagram If you are here I am so grateful for you and want to invite you to become a part of the beloved community being developed here. Consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  http://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurchAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript  l Survey Guest: Professor Soong-Chan Rah What would it mean for our church to actually think and embrace a new way to Evangelize others. The future of our church is hinged on this question. How do we talk about Christ and Church when we have no justice, and we show graciously small amounts of love? How can we begin to address this? Professor Rah and I have the opportunity to discuss.  Bio: Rev. Dr. Soong-Chan Rah is Milton B. Engebretson Associate Professor of Church Growth and Evangelism at North Park Theological Seminary in Chicago, IL and the author of The Next Evangelicalism: Freeing the Church from Western Cultural Captivity (IVP Books, 2009). Rah is formerly the founding Senior Pastor of the Cambridge Community Fellowship Church (CCFC), a multi-ethnic, urban ministry-focused church committed to living out the values of racial reconciliation and social justice in the urban context. Soong-Chan has previously been part of a church planting team in the Washington DC area, worked for a number of years with IVCF in Boston (specifically at MIT), and had mobilized CCFC to plant two additional churches. He currently serves on the board of Catalyst Leadership Center and Sojourners/Call to Renewal. He has been an active member of the Boston Ten-Point Coalition (an urban ministry working with at-risk youth) and is a founding member of the Boston Fellowship of Asian-American Ministers. He has extensive experience in cross-cultural preaching as well as on numerous college campuses. Soong-Chan was a plenary speaker at the 2003 Urbana Student Missions Conference, the 2005 Summer Institute for Asian American Ministry and Theology, the 2006 Congress on Urban Ministry, the 2007 ECC Midwinter Conference, the 2007 Urban Youth Workers Institute Conference and the 2008 CCDA National Conference. Find his books right here on Amazon Connect with Prof Rah on Facebook, Twitter: @profrah as well as http://www.profrah.com/ Follow the Show on Twitter: @CISTACPodcast and Facebook  Special Music for this episode was provided by Brett Lee MIller from the Album: Topography. Tracks include: Romance, Remain, Texture, and In Us Find his music on iTunes, YouTube as well as Spotify as well Instagram and Facebook, Twitter and at http://brettleemiller.com/ You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  If you are here I am so grateful for you and want to invite you to become a part of the beloved community being developed here. Consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  http://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurchAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Episode Transcript Guest: Mark Van Steenwyk What does it look like for a church, and it's people, to truly be subversive. Not just subversive or activist-like for the sake of being so; but instead to try to further the Kingdom of God. Mark and I discuss what that looks like. What a society that is turned on it's head with the church doing the work that we are all to trusting of the government to do? Bio: For nearly 15 years, Mark has sowed seeds of subversive spirituality throughout North America. He co-founded the Mennonite Worker in Minneapolis in 2004 with his wife Amy. He also currently serves as the Executive Director for the Center for Prophetic Imagination' https://www.propheticimagination.org/. Mark is the author of That Holy Anarchist, The unKingdom of God, and A Wolf at the Gate. You can find all of Mark's writing at  Special Music for this episode was provided by Krum from the Album Blue Eyed Devil.  Tracks include: On My Own, Wait in Line, Blue Eyed Devil Find his music on iTunes, YouTube as well as Spotify as well as Facebook, Twitter and at http://iamkrum.com/ You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  If you are here I am so grateful for you and want to invite you to become a part of the beloved community being developed here. Consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.   https://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurch/Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Episode Transcript Guest: Austin Channing Brown In a time when nearly all institutions (schools, churches, universities, businesses) claim to value "diversity" in their mission statements...do our words matter? How do we do this as a people and more importantly how do we begin to reconcile with each other. Sometimes we need to realize what is the 'right medicine'.   For readers who have engaged with America's legacy on race through the writing of Ta-Nehisi Coates and Michael Eric Dyson, I'm Still Here is an illuminating look at how white, middle-class, Evangelicalism has participated in an era of rising racial hostility, inviting the reader to confront apathy, recognize God's ongoing work in the world, and discover how blackness--if we let it--can save us all Bio: Austin earned a master’s degree in social justice from Marygrove College in Detroit, Michigan. Building on the foundation of her graduate work, she directed a short-term missions site on the west side of Chicago, creating interactive opportunities for youth to engage issues of poverty, injustice. She also served on staff with Willow Creek Community Church, developing strategies and programming around multiculturalism. She then served as resident director and multicultural liaison for three years at Calvin College, in Grand Rapids, Michigan, working closely with millennials.   I'm Still Here: Black Dignity in a World Made for Whiteness: Amazon Connect with Austin on Facebook, Twitter: @AustinChanning as well as http://austinchanning.com/ Special Music for this episode was provided by Jordan St.Cyr, who was recently recognized as the CM United Artist of the Year. Tracks include: In My Lifetime, Lay it Down, Victory Find his music on iTunes, YouTube as well as Spotify as well Instagram and Facebook, Twitterand at https://jordanstcyr.com/home Jordan began his musical journey at the age of 14 writing poems and lyrics that longed to reveal the deeper things of life.  In his teen years, Jordan honed his ability as a singer and guitar player in his home church where he led worship for his youth group and on Sunday mornings.  It was here that Jordan introduced his first songs to the public and developed a desire for writing original compositions. You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  If you are here I am so grateful for you and want to invite you to become a part of the beloved community being developed here. Consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  http://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurchAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Guest: Dominique DuBois Gilliard The United States has more people locked up in jails, prisons, and detention centers than any other country in the history of the world. Mass incarceration has become a lucrative industry, and the criminal justice system is plagued with bias and unjust practices. And the church has unwittingly contributed to the problem. The huge elephant in the room is this: how Christians can pursue justice that restores and reconciles, offering creative solutions and highlighting innovative interventions? The church has the power to help transform our criminal justice system. Discover how you can participate in the restorative justice needed to bring authentic rehabilitation, lasting transformation, and healthy reintegration to this broken system. Bio: Dominique DuBois Gilliard is the director of Racial Righteousness and Reconciliation for the Love Mercy Do Justice (LMDJ) initiative of the Evangelical Covenant Church (ECC). He is the author of Rethinking Incarceration: Advocating for Justice that Restores. He also serves on the board of directors for the Christian Community Development Association and Evangelicals for Justice. In 2015, he was selected as one of the ECC’s “40 Under 40” leaders to watch, and Huffington Post named him one of the “Black Christian Leaders Changing the World.” An ordained minister, Gilliard has served in pastoral ministry in Atlanta, Chicago, and Oakland. He earned a bachelor’s degree in African American Studies and History from Georgia State University and a master’s degree in History from East Tennessee State University, with an emphasis on race, gender, and class in the United States. Dominique earned a Master of Divinity degree from North Park Seminary, where he currently serves as an adjunct professor Rethinking Incarceration: Advocating for Justice that Restores:  Amazon Connect with Dominique on Facebook, Twitter: @DDGilliard as well as https://dominiquegilliard.com Special Music for this episode was provided by A New Liturgy. A New Liturgy is a project from Aaron Niequist & friends designed to create a moveable, sonic sanctuary.  Each liturgy is a 25 minute journey of music, prayer, scripture, and space that helps open us to The Almighty in any location, season, community, or emotion Tracks include: Emmanuel Parts 1 and 2, and Come Thou Fount from the album A New Liturgy No. 3: Lord Have Mercy.  Find them on Vimeo as well as Spotify as well Instagram and Facebook, Twitter You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  Please consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  http://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurchAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Episode Transcript Guest: Brad Jersak For Christians atonement is somewhat of a lynchpin. It's our attempt to put to words what the death of Jesus stands for and further what that then means as we work our faith out daily. You are going to love this convo with Brad. Chairs Video Referenced: https://vimeo.com/177849401 Connect with Brad on Facebook, Twitter: @bradjersak as well as https://bradjersak.com/ Special Music for this episode was provided by artist Noah Guthrie.  Tracks include in this episode: Beautiful Crime, I Would Die for You, and Pardon me from the album The Valley. Connect with Noah: https://www.facebook.com/only1noah/ Find Noah's music at iTunes, YouTube, Spotify, as well Instagram and Facebook, and on Twitter You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  I am so grateful for you and want to invite you to become a part of the beloved community being developed here. Consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  http://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurchAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Episode Transcript Guest: Benjamin L. Corey Thinking about my faith journey, up to date, I realized that I can't be in the minority wondering how many other Christians are only followers as a form of divine fire insurance. How though has this thought and practice actually impacted our walk with our Lord and what does that mean. To discuss this a bit further I was able to pick the brain of Benjamin L. Corey and try to have some honest conversation about construction and deconstruction and what the light at the end of the tunnel means. Guest Bio: Dr. Benjamin L. Corey, is a provocative Christian author, speaker, and blogger. His articles are read by millions each year on platforms such as: TIME, Patheos, and Sojourners, among others. He has been an interviewed guest on CNN, HuffPo Live, and repeated appearances on John Fugelsang. He is a two-time graduate of Gordon-Conwell and holds his doctorate from Fuller Theological Seminary.               Unafraid: Moving Beyond Fear-Based Faith:  Amazon Connect with Benjamin: Facebook, Twitter: @BenjaminLCorey as well as www.benjaminlcorey.com Special Music for this episode was provided by VERSES.  Tracks include: Be the Light, Holy, and Your Love. VERSES is a Christian Electronic trio from Newcastle, Australia. VERSES was birthed out of a conviction that Luke, the key songwriter of the group, had after trying to grasp the meaning of many of the lyrics to modern Christian Music. So whilst on a trip to NYC in the summer of 2013 the songwriting process began. There was so much about the city and the spiritual journey they were on that caused them to write the "modern day memory verse". Find their music on iTunes, YouTube as well as Spotify as well Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  I hope you will consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  http://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurchAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Episode Transcript Guest: Chris Date Hell will be a topic that I don't think I will ever tire of wrestling with; and if we are truthful what happens for good or bad at an infinite level indeed does matter. So to revisit it I was honored to be able to have a discussion with Chris.  Bio: Chris is a fellow podcaster with the Rethinking Hell podcast; if what you heard here or any of the other episodes on hell strike a note with you I encourage you too see out that show. Through the vehicle of Rethinking Hell he has organized annual conferences to discuss hell at length. He has also written a text on the topic which you can find right here:  Is Hell Forever?:  Amazon Connect with Chris on Twitter: @datechris as well as http://www.rethinkinghell.com/ Special Music for this episode was provided by The Hope Arsenal  Tracks include: Praise to the Lord, It Is Well With My Soul, Benediction, and Before the Throne from the album Hymnology. Find the music online at www.thehopearsenal.com on iTunes, YouTube as well as Spotify as well Instagram and Facebook You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  If you are here I am so grateful for you and want to invite you to become a part of the beloved community being developed here. Consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  http://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurchAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Transcript for this Episode   Welcome to the show! If you are here I am so grateful for you and want to invite you to become a part of the beloved community being developed here. Consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.    http://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurch   Guest: Sister Elizabeth Johnson   This week I talk sister Elizabeth Johnson about the relationship between science, ecology, evolution, and Jesus. When exactly did the Church lose it's relationship with creation and once realizing it what do we as followers of Christ have to lose if we learn to engage in an honest conversation about science?    Sister Johnson is a distinguished professor at Fordham in New York. She writes predominately around systematic theology, especially the mystery of the living God; the meaning of Jesus Christ and salvation; creation and ecological ethics; the problem of suffering; the dialogue between science and religion; interpretations of Mary, the mother of Jesus, and the communion of saints; and all of the above as related to the human dignity of women and articulated in feminist theology.     Ask the Beasts: Darwin and the God of Love: Amazon   Special Music for this episode was provided by Artist M.D.    Tracks include: Anticipation, Creation, and Restoration from the album The History Project.   Find the music on iTunes, YouTube as well as Spotify as well Instagram and Facebook   You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.  Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Welcome to the show! If you are here I am so grateful for you and want to invite you to become a part of the beloved community being developed here. Consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.    http://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurch   Guest: Kaitlin Curtice   This week I talk to Kaitlin about what is it to be a Christian and at the same time embrace Native American Heritage at the same time. Our world is full of thin spaces where we can touch, see, and feel the divine; what will we do with that.    Kaitlin Curtice is a Native American Christian author, speaker and worship leader. As an enrolled member of the Potawatomi Citizen Band and someone who has grown up in the Christian faith, Kaitlin writes on the intersection of Native American spirituality, mystic faith in everyday life, and the church. She is an author with Paraclete Press and her recently released book is Glory Happening: Finding the Divine in Everyday Places. She is a contributor to Sojourners, and you can also find her work on Patheos Progressive Christian.     Glory Happening: Finding the Divine in Everyday Places:  Amazon   Connect with Kaitlin on Facebook, Twitter: @kaitlincurtice as well as https://kaitlincurtice.com/.   Special Music for this episode was provided by Hallie Darling.  Tracks include: Break My Heart, Brittle Bones, and Me the Monster from the album Brittle Bones.   Find her music on iTunes, YouTube as well as Spotify as well Instagram and Facebook   You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.   Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript   There is no greater moment in our faith and arguably in the world than the resurrection of Jesus. In a moment in time the world swapped its axis and forever changed. So too has our knowledge of the beautiful history surrounding our celebration with our brothers and sisters in the faith in Easter. How should we posture our hearts, daily, in reflection upon a magnificent moment in time.    Guest: Alexander Shaia   Alexander was born and raised in Birmingham, AL. Studied at Notre Dame and then went on the same quest we all do to navigate our life and our faith together and the result is disarmingly beautiful. Please go and get his latest book Heart and Mind (Second Edition) you will be pleased that you did. Sit back, take some notes and lets talk about Jesus!   Heart and Mind: The Four-Gospel Journey for Radical Transformation:  Amazon   Connect with Alexander on Facebook, as well as https://www.quadratos.com/.   Special Music for this episode was provided by Matt Tipton.  Tracks include: Blessed, But God, and As One from the album Ephesians.   Find their music on iTunes, YouTube as well as Spotify as well as Facebook   You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.    Welcome to the show! If you are here I am so grateful for you and want to invite you to become a part of the beloved community being developed here. Consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.    http://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurch Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Transcript for this episode Four out of five Americans have said that they feel gratitude in their daily lives, but this seems to be at odds with the discontent that permeates modern society. How do we navigate the chasm between our desire to be grateful and our ability to behave gratefully—a divide that influences our understanding of morality, worship, and institutional religion itself. Join in this week as I discuss gratitude and an economy of grace and love with Dr. Diana Butler Bass. Guest Bio: Diana Butler Bass is the author of eight books on American religion, including Christianity After Religion, Christianity for the Rest of Us, and A People's History of Christianity. She holds a Ph.D. in Religious Studies from Duke University, has taught at the college and graduate level, and is currently an independent scholar. She was a columnist for the New York Times Syndicate, and blogs for the Huffington Post and the Washington Post on issues of religion, spirituality, and culture. Bass is a popular speaker at conferences, colleges and universities, and churches across North America. She lives in Alexandria, Virginia, with her husband, daughter, and dog. Connect with Diana at her website is dianabutlerbass.com, she can be followed on Twitter at @dianabutlerbass, and Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/d.butler.bass/ Special Music for this episode was provided by The Lowly Heirs. The band was formed in 2017 with the desire to worship God and bring hope of the good news of Jesus Christ to the world. Their debut EP just dropped so go out and get it; it's very good. Links for their music below! Tracks in episode include: I Will, May I Run, Informal Exchange iTunes, Spotify and https://www.thelowlyheirs.com/ Follow on the Socials! Facebook: The Lowly Heirs Twitter: @thelowlyheirs Instagram: The Lowly Heirs Youtube: The Lowly Heirs You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.   Please consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.  http://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurchAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Transcript for this episode:   Welcome to the show! If you are here I am so grateful for you and want to invite you to become a part of the beloved community being developed here. Consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.    http://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurch   Guest: Greg Boyd   What is open theism? What is it's purpose and when we discuss what is our future and what is reality where does that leave us? Do we have control or does God? Let's get into it.  Greg Boyd is an internationally recognized theologian, preacher, teacher, apologist and author. He has been featured on the front page of The New York Times, The Charlie Rose Show, CNN, National Public Radio, the BBC and numerous other television and radio venues. Greg received his Ph.D. from Princeton Theological Seminary (summa cum laude 1988), his M.Div. from Yale Divinity School (cum laude 1982), and his B.A. in Philosophy from the University of Minnesota (1979). He was a professor of theology for 16 years at Bethel University (St. Paul, MN) where he received the Teaching Excellence Award and Campus Leadership Award. Greg is the co-founder of Woodland Hills Church in St. Paul, Minnesota where he serves as Senior Pastor, speaking to thousands each week. Greg has authored or co-authored 22 books and numerous academic articles, including his best-selling and award-winning Letters From a Skeptic and his recent books Crucifixion of the Warrior God and Cross Vision. His apologetic writings and public debates on the historical Jesus and the problem of evil have helped many skeptics embrace faith, and his writings and seminars on spiritual transformation have had a revolutionary, freeing impact on thousands of believers.     Greg is active on Facebook, Twitter, and his website http://reknew.org/     Special Music for this episode was provided by Remedy Drive. The band of late has just been on fire; writing songs that are inspired by the devasting reality that finds it's way into our lives. Song inspired by the ordinary people that fight injustice daily.    Tracks include: King of Kings, Throne, and Dear Life.    Find Remedy Drive's music on iTunes, Spotify  https://www.remedydrive.com/   Follow on the Socials!   Facebook: Remedy Drive Twitter: @remedydrive Instagram: Remedy Drive Youtube: RemedyDrive   You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.   Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Transcript for this Episode   Welcome to the show! If you are here I am so grateful for you and want to invite you to become a part of the beloved community being developed here. Consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.    http://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurch   Guest: Mark Charles   Have you ever wondered how we became the country and the church and the way that we are today? What is the true history of our nation. Ask almost any person on the street and they will quote to you Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln or further back Columbus. But that's not the history, at least, not the true history. The Doctrine of Discovery is absolutely fascinating and all-together important to understand; especially through a lens of how it impacts every portion of our lives.    Links to the articles referenced:    After recording of this episode Mark was able to write a more detailed and further piece on Lincoln... it is well worth all the time it takes.. read slowly:   http://wirelesshogan.blogspot.com/2018/02/the-historically-accurate-abraham-lincoln.html   —-    http://wirelesshogan.blogspot.com/2017/07/where-augustine-goes-off-rails.html   http://wirelesshogan.blogspot.com/2018/01/the-abhorrent-lie-of-white-supremacy.html   Mark Charles is a dynamic and thought-provoking public speaker, writer, and consultant. The son of an American woman (of Dutch heritage) and a Navajo man, he speaks with insight into the complexities of American history regarding race, culture, and faith in order to help forge a path of healing and conciliation for the nation.  Mark serves as the Washington DC correspondent and regular columnist for Native News Online and is the author of the popular blog "Reflections from the Hogan." He served on the board of the Christian Community Development Association (CCDA) and is a former Board of Trustee member of the Christian Reformed Church of North America (CRCNA). Mark also consults with the Calvin Institute of Christian Worship (CICW), has served as the pastor of the Christian Indian Center in Denver CO and is a founding partner of a national conference for Native students called “Would Jesus Eat Frybread?” (CRU, IVCF and CICW) Mark is active on Facebook, Twitter, YouTube and Instagram under the username: wirelesshogan.     Please stay tuned for Marks forthcoming book: Truth Be Told this is going to be one you're going to need to get!      Special Music for this episode was provided by Sean C Johnson. Sean is a former Air Force Staff Sergeant as a soul singer – no afro blowing in the wind and no “tortured genius” look. He does, however, have his own unique vibe - an unsuspecting and compassionate demeanor that produces a sound that draws you in. Sean offers music that lyrically takes the listener deep into the Word, flowing hypnotically over soul ballads and Hip Hop beats.   Tracks include: Home, Up, and Angels from his album Race The Sun released in 2017 (January)   Find Seans music on iTunes, Spotify  http://www.seancjohnson.com   Follow on the Socials!   Facebook: SimplyAVessel Twitter: @SeanCJohnson Instagram: SeanCJohnson Youtube: Sean Johnson SoundCloud: Sean C Johson   You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Welcome to the show! If you are here I am so grateful for you and want to invite you to become a part of the beloved community being developed here. Consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.    http://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurch   Transcript for this episode     Guest: Alexander John Shaia   What is/are the gospels? How do they relate to our lives and more importantly; when life as it inevitably will throws us things we aren't prepared to deal with, how do we find and breath Jesus. What is a quadratos view of the Gospels...is it new or is it ancient? I think it's both.    Alexander was born and raised in Birmingham, AL. Studied at Notre Dame and then went on the same quest we all do to navigate our life and our faith together and the result is disarmingly beautiful. Please go and get his latest book Heart and Mind (Second Edition) you will be pleased that you did. Sit back, take some notes and lets talk about Jesus!   Heart and Mind: The Four-Gospel Journey for Radical Transformation:  Amazon   Connect with Alexander on Facebook, as well as https://www.quadratos.com/.   Special Music for this episode was provided by Psallos. Psallos is a team of Christian artists - songsters and singers, ministers and musicians, thinkers and theologians. Led by composer Cody Curtis (DMA) and in partnership with Union University, Psallos exists to provide the Church with intentional, artistic songs of worship that are consistent with God's word, rich in sound doctrine, and intelligible for the sake of edification. The proclamation of Scripture, particularly the gospel of Jesus Christ, is at the core of its mission.   Tracks include: Heaven and Earth, The New, and In The Past, Pts. 1 and 2 from their latest work Hebrews.   Find their music on iTunes, YouTube as well as Spotify and the official site at https://www.psallos.com/ as well as Facebook and Twitter   You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Welcome to the show! If you are here I am so grateful for you and want to invite you to become a part of the beloved community being developed here. Consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.    http://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurch   Guest Bio: This week I had the great pleasure of speaking with Professor (PhD) James McGrath from Butler University about religion and the intersection with sci-fi as it relates to thought experiments around ethics and all other aspects of our lives .   James is Clarence L. Goodwin Chair in New Testament Language and Literature. He has also written a "prequel" about the broader context of monotheism and Christology in ancient Judaism and Christianity, The Only True God: Early Christian Monotheism in Its Jewish Context, published by University of Illinois Press. In addition to his work on the New Testament and early Christianity, Dr. McGrath also does research on topics such as the Mandaeans (the last surviving Gnostic group from the ancient world) and religion and science fiction. On the latter subject, he is the editor of Religion and Science Fiction and co-editor of Time and Relative Dimensions in Faith: Religion and Doctor Who. He blogs at Religion Prof.    Find Professor McGraths latest work on Amazon   Connect with James on Facebook, Twitter at @ReligionProf, and his blog on Patheos at http://www.patheos.com/blogs/religionprof/   Special Music for this episode was provided by The Wright Brothers, a band comprised of brothers Joe, Jacob, Jeremy and Jonny Wright.   Find their music on iTunes as well as Spotify and her official site at http://thewrightbrothersmusic.com/ as well as Facebook.   You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Transcript for this episode   Welcome to the show. If you are here I am so grateful for you and want to invite you to become a part of the beloved community being developed here. Consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported.    http://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurch   This week I had the great pleasure of speaking with the author, blogger, and rising voice of Courtney Hall Lee. In this episode we sit down to discuss many topics. Most specifically surrounding her new book Black Madonna: A Womanist Look at Mary of Nazareth  #BLACKLIVESMATTER, what good can come from Nazareth. Courtney Hall Lee writes about theology, Christianity and spirituality. She speaks and writes about the intersections of faith, culture, and social justice.   Courtney's first book Black Madonna: a Womanist Look at Mary of Nazareth is available now on Amazon.---stop right now and go get it...you'll be glad you did.   Courtney is a contributor at Sojourners Magazine, WomenInTheology.org and her work has appeared at RELEVANT.   Connect with Courtney of Facebook, Twitter at @CourtRhapsody, and her website work at https://www.courtneyhalllee.com.   Special Music for this episode was provided by artist Cassidy Best. Cassidy's music is a unique blend of classic and alternative rock. Specific songs featured this week are Same Old Sins and Golden Light from her latest album Can't Stay Long.   Find Cassidy's Music on iTunes as well as Spotify and her official site at https://www.cassidybest.com/ as well as Facebook and Twitter, @Cassidybesteva   You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Transcript for this episode: Welcome to the show! If you are here I am so grateful for you...and my spouse would be even more grateful if you could make her sleep better at night. How can you do that...well...by becoming part of the beloved community being developed here. Consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $1/Month goes so far.    http://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurch     This week I had the great pleasure of sitting down with Pastor Brian Zahnd to discuss a bit about his most recent book, Sinners in the Hands of a Loving God. Brian is the founder and lead pastor of Word of Life Church, a non-denominational Christian congregation in Saint Joseph, Missouri. Brian and his wife, Peri, founded the church in 1981. Brian is also the author of several books, including, Sinners in the Hands of a Loving God, Water to Wine, A Farewell To Mars, Beauty Will Save the World, and Unconditional?: The Call of Jesus to Radical Forgiveness.   You can find all Brians work at https://brianzahnd.com/ and I encourage you to connect with him on Twitter as well at @BrianZahnd   Special Music for this episode was provided by artist Dane Joneshill. Dane's songs paint pictures of places and people, times and moments that are rich with color and movement. With a lyricism more akin to a novelist than a songwriter, his songs are at once wry, charming and bittersweet. Like a Steinbeck book, they walk the tension of darkness and loss in order to find the lights of hope.   If you like the music Dane is currently giving it away at NoiseTrade for a limited time; but if you're like me you'll be happy to pay some dollars.    Find Danes Music on iTunes as well as Spotify and Amazon and his official site at https://www.danejoneshillmusic.com/about and everywhere else music is enjoyed. You can also find his music on Youtube @ https://www.youtube.com/user/DaneJoneshillMusic   You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.       Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Transcript for this Episode Welcome to the show! If you are here I am so grateful for you...and my spouse would be even more grateful if you could make her sleep better at night. How can you do that...well...by becoming part of the beloved community being developed here. Consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations.    http://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurch   Today we discuss the virgin birth and the incarnation of Jesus with Kyle Roberts. This is a topic that is definitely intimidating but so worthwhile. Was she or wasn't she...and does it even matter if she's a virgin. What is the lens in the #metoo and #churchtoo movements. There is much going on here.    Kyle has written a book on this topic and it's worth every penny. Find it on Amazon. Kyle Roberts (Ph.D.) is Schilling Professor of Public Theology and the Church and Economic Life at United Theological Seminary of the Twin Cities. Roberts has published essays on Kierkegaard and modern theology, including several essays in the series Kierkegaard Research: Sources, Reception and Resources (Ashgate / University of Copenhagen) and other collected volumes on various topics, including Pietism, Karl Barth, eschatology, and Christian spirituality. Roberts has published Emerging Prophet: Kierkegaard and the Postmodern People of God (Cascade, 2013) and has recently completed a co-authored commentary on the Gospel of Matthew (Eerdmans) and a book about the virgin birth (Fortress)   Connect with Kyle on the socials at @kyleroberts   Special Music for this episode was provided by The Matt Littlejohn Band   Selections of today's music came from their newest EP You Are Strong which can be found on iTunes as well as Spotify and Amazon and everywhere else music is enjoyed.  Find them on the socials here: Facebook Twitter Instagram   You can also find selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist.     Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Transcript for Today’s Show Welcome to the show! If you are here I am so grateful for you...and my spouse would be even more grateful if you could make her sleep better at night. How can you do that...well...by becoming part of the beloved community being developed here. Consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations.    http://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurch   I'm so happy you get to hear this. Our country and our culture likes to categorize us. Democrat, Republican, Him, Her, Bigot, Worthy, Unworthy, Christian, Muslim. But are these healthy, are they normal? I had the honor to  sit down with Dr. Richard Beck to have a discussion on how learning to see past that and embracing the 'other' can help us so much...and if we are looking...we find Jesus. Dr. Beck has written extensively about this and that effort is well worth your time and attention. Please get this book...you need this book! Find it here.    Richard Beck is Professor and Department Chair of Psychology at Abilene Christian University. Richard is married to Jana and they have two sons, Brenden and Aidan. They also have a dog Bandit who keeps Richard company when he works away on his blog Experimental Theology. Richard's area of interest--be it research, writing, or blogging--is on the interface of Christian theology and psychology, with a particular focus on how existential issues affect Christian belief and practice. Richard's published research covers topics as diverse as the psychology of profanity to why Christian bookstore art is so bad. And on his blog Richard will spend enormous amounts of time writing about the theology of Calvin and Hobbes, the demonology of Scooby-Doo or his latest bible class on monsters.   His Blog can be found at experimentaltheology.blogspot.com   Special Music for this episode was provided by The Artic. The Arctic's first EP "Reverberate" is now available in our store and available at thearcticmusic.bandcamp.com. It is also available on iTunes, Spotify, CDBaby, Noisetrade, and many others. Find them on the socials here: Facebook: TheArticMusic Twitter: @TheArticMusic Instagram        Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Is the Bible inerrant? This is a huge question and one that matters for our faith. If it's not what does this do for authority and how should we read it?    Transcript for this Episode:   Guest Bio:   Jared studied under Dr. Peter Enns in the early 2000s, he was also a teaching pastor and professor near Philadelphia, teaching courses and developing curricula in philosophy, ethics, & biblical studies. In 2011 he launched a creative solutions company and in 2013 had the opportunity to partner with an old friend to launch Experience Institute, an experience-based graduate program in Chicago. Somewhere in there dictatorial Dr. Peter Enns became a dear friend and in 2012, Jared had the privilege, with Pete, to co-author Genesis for Normal People. Now, he writes regularly on peteenns.com because Pete clearly needed a celebrity with a huge platform to help boost page views. Pete and Jared have also started a podcast called The Bible For Normal People, which is well worth your listen. You can follow Jared on Facebook or on Twitter at @jbyas. Consider supporting the show on Patreon Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Welcome to the show! If you are here I am so grateful for you...and my spouse would be even more grateful if you could make her sleep better at night. How can you do that...well...by becoming part of the beloved community being developed here. Consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations.    Transcript for this weeks show: http://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurch   I had the pleasure of speaking with Keith Giles this week about the state of our Country, our Politics, and our faith. How we need to be mindful and careful to remember to what and how we pledge our unwavering allegiance. Keith is a former pastor who left the pulpit over a decade ago to follow Jesus as well as the author of several books, including “Jesus Untangled: Crucifying Our Politics To Pledge Allegiance To The Lamb.”   He is co-founder of Pacifist Fight Club [www.PacifistFightClub.com] and co-host of the Heretic Happy Hour Podcast. He and his family started a house church in Orange County, CA where 100% of the offering goes to help the poor in their community. Additionally Keith also blogs frequently at Patheos and is very active on both Facebook and Twitter.    For those that are interested in the Event teased at the end in partnership with Brad Jersak you can find more information about that here: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/grace-and-peace-summit-birmingham-tickets-40783072267     If you are liked our show please drop us a rating in iTunes, it helps tremendously.   Like us on Facebook / Twitter Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Transcript   Our episode today features Sean Palmer in a discussion of how we can, as a church body, move forward in today's climate. How it's so important to lean towards each other and protect and serve the communities that we are a part of every day.   Sean is currently the Teaching Pastor at Ecclesia Church in Houston, TX. In 2013 Sean was Profiled in the Christian Standard Magazine's "40 Leaders Under 40". Sean is also a contributing writer for The Voice Bible Project, author of "Scandalous: Lessons in Redemption From Unlikely Women". His writing has also been featured on Scot McKnight's Jesus Creed, Soujourners, Fox News, and Christianity Today's Out of Ur. He's also the Co-Host of the Not So Black and White podcast with John Alan Turner, which is well worth your listen!   In his new book, Unarmed Empire, Sean Palmer reclaims the New Testament’s vision of the church as an alternative community of welcome, harmony, and peace. Unarmed Empire is for everyone who’s been misled about church. It’s for everyone who feels blacklisted by believers, everyone who has been hurt. It’s for everyone longing for a purer experience of church.   Find more of Sean at his website   Music provided by Heath McNease   Find his music on Bandcamp or iTunes Twitter: @theheathmcnasty Youtube   Please support Heath!    If you are liked our show please drop us a rating in iTunes, it helps tremendously.   Consider becoming a Patron for as little as $1/Month to help this show continue to grow for the future; you'll get access to exclusive content, blogs, and more, thank you! For more information...click right here, trust me, my wife will be forever grateful!   Like us on Facebook / Twitter   Support the show on Patreon Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

In a follow up to the last episode and discussion on Hell in this episode we'll take another look at, another, possible theory on Hell, Annihilationism-though some have called it Conditionalism.    We are joined by Dr. John Stackhouse; he was educated in history and religious studies at Mount Carmel Bible School at Queen’s University in Ontario, Wheaton College Graduate School in Illinois, and The University of Chicago (Ph.D.).   Formerly a professor of European history at Northwestern College in Iowa, a professor of religion at the University of Manitoba, and the Sangwoo Youtong Chee Professor of Theology and Culture at Regent College (University of British Columbia), he now serves Crandall University in Moncton, New Brunswick, as the Samuel J. Mikolaski Professor of Religious Studies and Dean of Faculty Development.   John is the author of ten books, the editor of four more, serves on the editorial board for Christianity today, and is the author of over 700 articles, book chapters, and reviews in academic publications, major newspapers, and magazines. His writings range over history, sociology, philosophy, theology, ethics, and comparative religion. He has spoken throughout North America, in the United Kingdom, and in China, India, Israel, Korea, Malaysia, Australia, and New Zealand. His commentary on religion and contemporary culture has been featured by major broadcast and print media as diverse as The New York Times, The Atlantic, ABC News, CBC Radio, Time, and Reader’s Digest.   His new book, Why You're Here: Ethics for the Real World can be found on Amazon pick it up! The full list of publications includes:   Why You’re Here: Ethics for the Real World (Oxford University Press, 2017). Partners in Christ: A Conservative Case for Egalitarianism (InterVarsity Press, 2015). Need to Know: Vocation as the Heart of Christian Epistemology (Oxford University Press, 2014). Making the Best of It: Following Christ in the Real World (Oxford University Press, 2008). Humble Apologetics: Defending the Faith Today (Oxford University Press, 2002). Can God Be Trusted? Faith and the Challenge of Evil (Oxford University Press, 1998; 2nd edition, InterVarsity Press, 2009). Canadian Evangelicalism in the Twentieth Century: An Introduction to Its Character (University of Toronto Press, 1993).   Music provided by Heath McNease   Find his music on Bandcamp or iTunes Twitter: @theheathmcnasty Youtube   Songs Featured: Spectral Evidence 13:15 Salem Songs   Please support Heath!    Transcript   If you are liking what your getting please consider helping to keep it going. Become a Patron and joining us at Patreon, you'll also get some other nice perks as well.  www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurch.com   Facebook  --- Twitter Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode Transcript   What exactly is Hell? Where do we all go? I sat down with Theologian, Author, Editor, Father, Book Enthusiast and honestly one of the nicest fellows I've spoken with in a long time, Robin Parry. Currently Robin resides as Editor for Wipf and Stock - a US-based theological publisher. He was a Sixth Form College Teacher for 11 years as well.    As a Christian theologian he has become particularly infamous for his thoughts and advocation of Christian Universalism. His best known book is The Evangelical Universalist, written under the pseudonym Gregory MacDonald.    This interview was a blast to conduct and I hope you enjoy it.    Music by Dlay which is a combination effort from Ketsa Music and UTKPublishing   https://www.canisaythisatchurch.com/transcripts/2019/8/8/2-evangelical-universalism-with-dr-robin-parry-gregory-macdonald-transcript   Texts discussed in the show The Evangelical Universalist Four Views on Hell: Second Edition (Counterpoints: Bible and Theology)   http://www.patreon.com/canisaythisatchurchAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

A brief state of the union and the reason for the delay in Episode 2.    Coming back so so soon! Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Church is in an odd place. It’s growing exponentially as an institution yet at the same time it continues to die off slowly. Is the Millennial generation to blame?    Most seem to think so and the research seems to back it up. Is it because we are afraid to take apart our faith?     Episode Sources: Pew Research Center http://www.pewforum.org/2012/10/09/nones-on-the-rise/ Missio Alliance Kaitlin Curtice Spoken Word Audio From Jon Jorgenson   Music By Alex Mason and the Minor Emotion as well as Ketsa   Join in on the conversation online:  Facebook l TwitterAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

We really look forward to starting this journey with you. Soon we will be back with our first episode...our story of deconstruction.    Find us on Facebook or on TwitterAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy