We live in a confusing time, bombarded every day with news from around the world that can be hard to follow, or fully understand. Let Worldly be your guide. Every Thursday, senior writer Zack Beauchamp, senior foreign editor Jennifer Williams, and staff defense writer Alex Ward give you the history and context you need to make sense of the moment and navigate the world around you. Produced by Vox and the Vox Media Podcast Network.
The end of the World(ly)
In the very! last! episode! of the Worldly podcast, Zack interviews renowned economic historian Adam Tooze about his forthcoming book, Shutdown — an early history of the year 2020, one that felt to many like the end of the world as they knew it. Zack and Adam discuss what the fateful year taught us about the global economic system, the rise of China, and the stability of the US-led world order. And don’t miss goodbye messages from Jenn and Zack (at the start and end of the show). We love you, listeners!
References:
Preorder our guest Adam Tooze’s new book, Shutdown, the subject of the conversation.
Hosts:
Zack Beauchamp (@zackbeauchamp), senior correspondent, Vox
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8/12/2021 • 50 minutes, 23 seconds
Authoritarians without borders
Zack, Jenn, and Jen Kirby look at how authoritarianism has become internationalized, through the lens of two recent news stories: 1) Fox News host Tucker Carlson choosing to broadcast his show from Hungary this week; and 2) a Belarusian Olympian in Tokyo seeking asylum out of fear of punishment by the Lukashenko regime after she criticized her coach on social media. They discuss what happened in both of those cases, as well as what the events tell us about the ways authoritarian governments are expanding their international reach, by developing ties with like-minded influential figures in other countries and by threatening — and, in some cases, kidnapping or even assassinating — dissidents abroad.
References:
Zack on why Tucker Carlson’s trip to Hungary matters.
Why US conservatives admire Prime Minister Viktor Orbán.
How Hungary’s democracy died.
The Belarusian Olympian who would not go home.
Here’s the transcript of Belarusian officials pressuring Olympic sprinter Krystsina Tsimanouskaya.
Freedom House’s report on the rise of “transnational repression.”
Hosts:
Zack Beauchamp (@zackbeauchamp), senior correspondent, Vox
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8/5/2021 • 42 minutes, 59 seconds
Trouble in Tunisia
Zack, Jenn, and Jen Kirby discuss the political crisis gripping Tunisia following the president’s decision to fire the prime minister and suspend parliament. Tunisia was the big “success story” of the Arab Spring: the one country whose revolution produced a real, albeit rocky, transition to democracy — a democracy that is now in crisis. The gang explains what’s going on, what it all means for Tunisia’s future, and how — or whether — the international community should respond.
References:
Tunisia’s president fired its prime minister and suspended parliament
Is what happened in Tunisia a coup?
A helpful timeline outlining Tunisia’s democratic transition
Tunisia’s imperfect democracy was still a model, wrote Sarah E. Yerkes in 2019
Foreign Policy on the problem with calling Tunisia the Arab Spring’s “lone success story”
Bloomberg’s Hussein Ibish on why this crisis is testing Tunisia’s political divisions
The US secretary of state’s Tunisia tweets
Hosts:
Zack Beauchamp (@zackbeauchamp), senior correspondent, Vox
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7/29/2021 • 41 minutes, 44 seconds
iSpy
Zack Beauchamp, Jenn Williams, and Jen Kirby discuss the explosive revelations that a number of governments around the world, from Saudi Arabia to Hungary to India, have been using military-grade spyware made by an Israeli firm to secretly hack into the phones of journalists, activists, and political opponents. They explore what we know about the NSO Group, the Israeli company who sold this software; what the technology does; how governments may have used it to spy on critics; and what all of this tells us about the rise of digital authoritarianism.
References:
The Pegasus Project uncovers the potential abuse of NSO Group spyware
The major takeaways from the investigation, according to the Washington Post
And the revelations keep on coming
Hungarian journalists had spyware on their phones
And so did a top rival of India’s prime minister
The Pegasus investigation puts Israel in an uncomfortable position
US and EU officials suspect links between NSO Group and Israeli intelligence
Israel’s defense ministry says “appropriate action” will be taken if NSO violated export permits
Steven Feldstein’s book, The Rise of Digital Repression (and listen to Zack’s interview!)
Israel considered using NSO Group to help track the coronavirus
Hosts:
Zack Beauchamp (@zackbeauchamp), senior correspondent, Vox
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7/22/2021 • 45 minutes, 4 seconds
Cuba Libre
Worldly guest co-host Jen Kirby talks to Michael Bustamante, professor of Latin American history at Florida International University and the author of Cuban Memory Wars: Retrospective Politics in Revolution and Exile (2021), about Cuba’s recent protests, the largest in decades. They discuss the origins of the current crisis and what it means for thousands of Cubans to take to the streets to resist the country’s regime. They also talk about the US-Cuba relationship and how the US should — and shouldn’t — respond.
References:
Here’s why Cubans are protesting.
This is a brief explainer on Cuba’s currency devaluation.
Vox wrote about the Biden administration’s Cuba dilemma.
You can find Bustamante’s latest book on Cubans’ memories of the revolution here.
Learn about the artists behind the song “Patria y Vida.” (And listen to the song here!)
Hosts:
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7/15/2021 • 52 minutes, 42 seconds
Erdoğan’s enemy in the NBA
Frequent Worldly guest cohost Jen Kirby talks Turkey with NBA player and activist Enes Kanter. Kanter was born in Switzerland to Turkish parents and raised in Turkey, but his criticism of Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan's ongoing human rights crackdown has made Kanter persona non grata in that country. They discuss how President Joe Biden has handled Turkey so far; the troubling kidnapping of a Turkish-Kyrgyz schoolteacher, part of Erdogan’s campaign of renditions against perceived political enemies; the personal consequences of Kanter's activism; and why he’s excited to become an American citizen soon.
References:
A recap of President Erdoğan’s political purge
Enes Kanter’s op-ed in the Spectator World urged Joe Biden to get tough on Erdoğan
A brief overview of the Biden-Erdoğan meeting
Erdoğan claims the US and Turkey have opened a “new era” in relations
Kanter condemns Turkey’s kidnapping campaign in the Washington Post
Turkey kidnapped Orhan Inandi — and now Erdoğan is bragging about it
The New York Times on Erdoğan’s troubling record of kidnappings
Who is Fethullah Gülen?
And for more on Kanter, read Vox’s 2019 profile
Hosts:
Zack Beauchamp (@zackbeauchamp), senior correspondent, Vox
Jennifer Williams (@jenn_ruth), senior foreign editor, Vox
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7/9/2021 • 46 minutes, 1 second
Brexit interview
A special repost from the folks at Today, Explained! While the Worldly team is out enjoying the holiday weekend in the States, TEX host Sean Rameswaram helps walk you through what’s going with Brexit right now — chatting with The Atlantic’s Tom McTague about where things are at right now in the UK/EU divorce. They explain (among other things) why it’s taking so look, how Prime Minister Boris Johnson has handled certain things well, and how it’s inflaming old tensions in Northern Ireland.
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7/1/2021 • 23 minutes, 53 seconds
Hungary's new anti-LGBTQ law gets a red card
Zack, Jenn, and Alex discuss the European soccer dustup over Hungary’s new anti-LGBTQ law. They explain what the Hungarian law does, how the country’s increasingly authoritarian leader Viktor Orbán is using it — and soccer — to further his anti-democratic political aims, why the EU opposes the measure so strongly, and how all of this spilled over into Europe’s marquee soccer tournament. Also, the Worldly team says goodbye to Alex.
References:
The Guardian explains Hungary’s anti-LGBTQ law.
Alex wrote for Vox about how the Germany-Hungary soccer match highlighted the European fight over the law.
The Conversation notes that Orbán’s government is pushing anti-LGBTQ issues to shore up support for next year’s election.
The New York Times writes that the ongoing continental spat over the law is turning into a culture war.
You can find out more about what George Orwell said about sports and politics at the Orwell Foundation.
Here's the Washington Post piece piece Zack read from.
And this is the Hungarian Conservative article Zack cited.
Jenn recommends listening to this On Point episode about Hungary and the decline of democracy.
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Zack Beauchamp (@zackbeauchamp), senior correspondent, Vox
Jennifer Williams (@jenn_ruth), senior foreign editor, Vox
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6/24/2021 • 42 minutes, 40 seconds
Joe Biden’s Eurotrip
Zack, Jenn, and Alex discuss President Joe Biden’s big trip to Europe, where he met with the other leaders of the G7 and NATO countries as well as with Russian President Vladimir Putin. The gang examine what Biden actually accomplished on his trip, discuss the furor that erupted on Political Science Twitter over a comment Biden made during a press conference, and debate whether the Putin meeting was as important as the media hype made it out to be. Also, Worldly makes an important announcement.
References:
If you want to look at all the fact sheets from Biden’s Europe trip, it’s worth perusing the White House’s Briefing Room website.
Alex wrote about the perils of the Biden-Putin summit and the big bet Biden made.
And here’s the tweet Alex sent, where you can then see the reactions from political scientists.
It’s worth looking back at this past Vox piece on the 2018 G7.
Back in 2018, Zack wrote a good Vox piece on America’s alliances.
Hosts:
Zack Beauchamp (@zackbeauchamp), senior correspondent, Vox
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6/17/2021 • 48 minutes, 59 seconds
Introducing: Now & Then
Now & Then is a new podcast from CAFE hosted by award-winning historians Heather Cox Richardson and Joanne Freeman. Every Tuesday, Heather and Joanne use their encyclopedic knowledge of US history to bring the past to life. Together, they make sense of the week in news by discussing the people, ideas, and events that got us here today.
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6/12/2021 • 46 minutes, 46 seconds
Canada’s reckoning with residential schools
Zack and Jenn talk about the horrifying discovery of the remains of 215 children at a so-called “residential school” in Canada. They talk about the history of these schools, which were a centerpiece of Canada’s long-running effort to wipe out Indigenous culture and identity, and how the discovery of the children’s bodies is forcing a political reckoning with this history among white Canadians. Then they compare how Canada is handling this issue to the way that other countries like the US, Germany, and Japan have dealt with their own histories of atrocity — and how that shapes both politics inside those countries and their relations with other states today.
References:
You can read the final report from Canada’s Truth and Reconciliation Commission here or on the Commission’s website, where you can find additional information and resources on the commission and the residential school system, including more about the Missing Children Project.
And here are the 94 “calls to action” from the report, if you want to check those out in particular.
This is the op-ed by Jody Wilson-Raybould that Zack mentioned.
This is the infamous 1892 “Kill the Indian...save the man” speech by Richard Pratt, the US military officer who founded the Indian Industrial School at Carlisle, Pennsylvania, which became a model for similar forced-assimilation schools in the US and Canada.
Here’s more on the lawsuit seeking reparations for the cultural impact of the residential schools, which the Canadian government is currently fighting against.
And here’s more on the Pope’s comments about the discovery at the Kamloops school, which notably do not include an apology for the Catholic church’s role in running that and many of the other residential schools.
Jenn mentioned the “birth alerts” that were only ended in British Columbia in 2019. You can read more about that here.
This is a good article contrasting Germany’s and Japan’s national approaches to reconciling with their past atrocities.
And here’s more about the ongoing tensions between Japan and South Korea over Japan’s wartime use of Korean sex slaves known as “comfort women.”
You can read the full text of the bill apologizing “to all Native Peoples on behalf of the United States,” which President Barack Obama quietly signed into law in 2009, here, and read more about why many were disappointed by it here and here.
And you can read the report from the Maine Wabanaki-State Child Welfare Truth & Reconciliation Commission here.
Hosts:
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6/10/2021 • 50 minutes, 17 seconds
The end of the Netanyahu era?
Zack, Jenn, and Alex discuss the political earthquake happening in Israel that could soon see longtime Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu ousted from power by a shaky coalition of far-right, centrist, leftist, and Islamist parties. They explain how this unlikely coalition came together, why it could easily fall apart, and what the possible end of the Netanyahu era means for the future of Israel and its conflict with the Palestinians.
References:
Zack wrote a piece for Vox in 2020 about the war on Israeli democracy.
You can find the Yair Lapid quote Alex read over at Foreign Policy.
The Times of Israel has a good (and short!) profile of Naftali Bennett.
The Associated Press reports the coalition wants a quick vote to confirm the government.
Haaretz has a smart piece on how Netanyahu unwittingly sowed the seeds of his political demise.
Politico featured a piece by experts detailing what the new Israeli government could mean for US President Joe Biden.
The Jerusalem Post features the comment Jenn mentioned, where Bennett talks about killing Arabs.
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Zack Beauchamp (@zackbeauchamp), senior correspondent, Vox
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6/3/2021 • 50 minutes, 35 seconds
Why John Cena is apologizing to China
Zack, Jenn, and Alex explain why WWE wrestling superstar John Cena issued an apology to China this week over a comment he made about Taiwan while promoting his new Fast & Furious 9 movie — and what it says about China’s increasing efforts to use its economic might to censor statements it doesn’t like from American celebrities and companies. In the second half of the show, the gang answers listener questions about global shipping, Iran, and book recommendations about international affairs.
References:
The Los Angeles Times explains why John Cena had to apologize after his Taiwan comment.
The Guardian has the Weibo video of Cena’s apology in Mandarin.
Alex wrote a longer feature for Vox on the historical tensions between China, Taiwan, and the US.
The Council on Foreign Relations has an easy-to-read guide on Hollywood censorship in China.
The Wall Street Journal reported on LeBron James’s Hong Kong comments from 2019.
The Council on Foreign Relations also has a good primer on US-Iran relations.
The OECD has statistics on shipping and trade.
You can find Jenn’s book recommendation here, Zack’s here, and Alex’s here.
Here’s Today, Explained’s episode on Belarus.
Hosts:
Zack Beauchamp (@zackbeauchamp), senior correspondent, Vox
Jennifer Williams (@jenn_ruth), senior foreign editor, Vox
Alex Ward (@AlexWardVox), White House reporter, Vox
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5/27/2021 • 49 minutes, 49 seconds
The big picture of the Israel-Gaza war
Zack, Jenn, and Alex take a look at how, after more than a week of fighting, the war between Israel and Hamas is already reshaping the contours of the broader Israeli-Palestinian conflict — deepening entrenched political realities, shaking up alliances, and reframing how the various players view their roles in the fight and the prospect of finding a peaceful solution to the decades-long conflict.
References:
Zack wrote for Vox about whether the US-Israel alliance is doomed.
Alex’s Vox story is on why Biden won’t push Israel harder on Gaza.
Alex also has Vox pieces on why the Abraham Accords didn’t solve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and the growing Democratic Party split on Israel.
The New York Times has a smart piece on the Palestinian strikes.
Hosts:
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5/20/2021 • 51 minutes, 54 seconds
The Israel-Gaza doom loop
Zack, Jenn, and Alex discuss the ongoing fighting between Israelis and Palestinians — the worst violence the conflict has seen in seven years. They explain how the fighting arose out of tensions in Jerusalem, how the militant group Hamas escalated things, and the cycle of violence that keeps pushing Israel and Hamas toward war. Then they discuss what, if anything, could be done to improve the situation — and why the US seems so impotent despite all of the leverage it has over Israel.
References:
Read Zack’s great piece on Vox about the Gaza doom loop.
Alex detailed for Vox on the split between Democrats and Biden on Israel.
Alex also wrote on Vox about how the current Israeli-Palestinian conflict is a test for Biden.
Neri Zilber penned a good summary of the conflict’s dynamics for Newlines Magazine.
Anshel Pfeffer explains how rudderless the conflict is for Haaretz.
The Guardian made clear the conflict caught the Biden administration by surprise.
Hosts:
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Jennifer Williams (@jenn_ruth), senior foreign editor, Vox
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5/13/2021 • 58 minutes, 35 seconds
Bonus: Rep. Ro Khanna on what America owes India
On a special bonus Worldly, Zack interviews Rep. Ro Khanna — the vice-chair of the House’s India Caucus — on the covid crisis in that country. They talk about how things got so bad in India and what it says about the state of India’s political institutions and democracy. Then they talk about the US response, where Rep. Khanna gives an inside view of how the Biden administration decided to increase its commitment to India — and makes the case for doing even more. They also reference a whole lot of political philosophy.
References:
Vox's Kelsey Piper wrote a piece about vaccine patents
Amartya Sen's book Development as Freedom
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5/7/2021 • 42 minutes, 20 seconds
The politics of India’s Covid crisis
Zack, Jenn, and Alex discuss the political implications of the ongoing Covid-19 catastrophe in India, where cases are skyrocketing, overwhelming the country’s health care system. They look at how much Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s government is to blame for the crisis and the degree to which it’s creating political problems for Modi both at home and abroad. In the second half, they talk about the recent local election in West Bengal, how it does and doesn’t relate to the Covid-19 outbreak, and the complex story it tells about the direction of Indian politics right now.
References:
Here’s Zack’s piece for Vox on the West Bengal elections.
Vox’s Jen Kirby and Umair Irfan wrote about what more the world could do to help India.
And this is Alex’s Vox story on what seemed like a looming India crisis last year.
The New Yorker had an excellent piece on India under Modi back in 2019.
The Diplomat reports on Modi’s political predicament.
The Associated Press notes how India’s outbreak is ruining Modi’s image.
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5/6/2021 • 46 minutes, 56 seconds
The surprising success of Covid-19 travel bans
Zack, Jenn, and Alex are joined by special guest Julia Belluz, Vox's senior health correspondent, to talk about how Vietnam has managed to keep its total coronavirus deaths to just 35 — yes, you read that right, 35 — in part by completely sealing its borders with one of the world’s strictest travel bans. The gang discusses what led Vietnam to take such drastic measures, why they seem to have worked so well, and whether replicating that approach in other countries currently experiencing outbreaks is feasible now that the virus is so widespread. Then they zoom out to look at whether we can take lessons from Vietnam’s experience when thinking about how to deal with the next pandemic.
References:
Here’s Julia’s excellent piece for Vox on how Vietnam handled Covid-19.
Vietnam has long been a Covid-19 success story. Vox wrote about it here and here.
Check out Vox’s “Pandemic Playbook” series, featuring work from friend-of-the-show Jen Kirby on Senegal.
The Hindustan Times notes that the farmers’ protest didn’t lead to India’s second wave.
Here’s Kirby’s piece for Vox on India and its second wave.
The Atlantic published a piece in 2020 about why the pandemic meant the post-9/11 era was over.
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Jennifer Williams (@jenn_ruth), senior foreign editor, Vox
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4/29/2021 • 47 minutes, 10 seconds
Bonus: The Super League
Twelve of Europe’s richest soccer teams tried, and failed, to create their own elite tournament in a naked money grab. Worldly’s Alex Ward, arguably Vox’s top soccer fan, explains why the move angered basically everyone and the scheme failed — for now.
References:
Alex wrote an explainer on the Super League and how the fans killed it.
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4/23/2021 • 9 minutes, 58 seconds
How Nigeria explains the climate crisis
In a very special Earth Month episode, Zack, Jenn, and Alex use Nigeria as a case study to uncover the deep reasons why it’s so hard for the world to quit fossil fuels. Nigeria is a country deeply threatened by climate change, but it’s also one with a major oil industry that hopes to lift millions out of poverty — a feat that has never been done without some degree of reliance on dirty energy. The team explains how these barriers affect the prospects for mitigating climate change in both Nigeria and globally, and talk about what solutions might help overcome these barriers.
References:
Check out all of Vox’s Earth Month podcasts.
This is Nigeria’s national climate action plan.
Reuters reports on how Nigeria’s minister of environment said the country must be ready for oil’s decline.
Science magazine explains how fighting poverty makes it harder to fight climate change.
Amnesty International details the Shell controversy Zack mentioned.
Olúfẹ́mi Táíwò wrote about the African case for carbon capture for Africa Is A Country.
Zack read from this smart paper on home energy needs in Nigeria.
Here’s Private Empire, the book on ExxonMobil by Steve Coll that Alex referenced.
Learn about the problem with “degrowth.”
Hosts:
Zack Beauchamp (@zackbeauchamp), senior correspondent, Vox
Jennifer Williams (@jenn_ruth), senior foreign editor, Vox
Alex Ward (@AlexWardVox), White House reporter, Vox
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4/22/2021 • 59 minutes, 2 seconds
America is finally leaving Afghanistan
Zack, Jenn, and Alex talk about President Joe Biden’s announcement that all remaining US troops will withdraw from Afghanistan by September 11, 2021 — the 20th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks that launched the war. They discuss what the US withdrawal means for the near-term future of Afghanistan, why Biden finally made the tough call that his predecessors couldn’t (or wouldn’t), and what that decision tells us about how Biden sees the future of US military engagement abroad.
References:
Here’s Alex’s Vox story on Biden’s announcement to withdraw all US troops by September 11.
Alex interviewed experts making the best case for and against an Afghanistan withdrawal.
Biden’s Afghanistan withdrawal speech is on the White House’s website.
The Georgetown Institute for Women, Peace, and Security ranked Afghanistan as the second-worst country for women.
The BBC reports that the Taliban is already claiming it won the war.
The Wall Street Journal reported how the US is looking to other countries to base its counterterrorism forces.
Here’s the story by the Daily Beast’s Spencer Ackerman on how Biden defended the war on terrorism.
Hosts:
Zack Beauchamp (@zackbeauchamp), senior correspondent, Vox
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4/15/2021 • 54 minutes, 1 second
Jordan’s royal family feud
Zack, Jenn, and Alex break down the royal drama that has roiled the normally quiet kingdom of Jordan this week: The king has accused his half-brother, the former crown prince, of a vague conspiracy against the crown and has put him under house arrest. The Worldly crew lays out what we actually know about what happened, what led to this family tension spilling out into the open, what political instability in Jordan could mean for the broader Middle East, and whether the Biden administration is betraying its stated commitment to defend democracy and human rights by unequivocally backing the king in this dispute. Also, Zack sings.
References:
Alex wrote Vox’s explainer on the royal family feud.
This is the audio of Prince Hamzah and the Jordanian general talking that Jenn mentioned.
The New York Times has a good piece on the roots of the King Abdullah and Prince Hamzah split.
You can watch Hamzah’s self-filmed video sent to the BBC, well, on the BBC.
The White House had a readout of President Biden’s call with Abdullah.
Biden told Abdullah to “stay strong.”
Hosts:
Zack Beauchamp (@zackbeauchamp), senior correspondent, Vox
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4/8/2021 • 42 minutes, 8 seconds
Is Myanmar heading for civil war?
Zack, Alex, and returning guest Jen Kirby talk about the potential for a “bloodbath” in Myanmar. Since the military deposed the democratic government in a February 1 coup, pro-democracy protesters and armed ethnic groups have risen up against the junta. They’ve been met with extreme violence, leading to more than 500 dead and concerns from experts that a broader civil war is coming. The Worldly crew explains how this horrible situation came to be, what may come next, and what — if anything — the international community can do to stop a Syria-like crisis.
References:
The Associated Press has a good story on the air campaign against the Karen ethnic group.
Reuters describes the struggle of pro-democracy protesters and ethnic groups against Myanmar’s military junta.
Some experts think Myanmar is on the verge of becoming a “failed state,” per CNBC.
The RAND think tank has a long study on how insurgencies end.
Expert Ashley South has a report on the Karen and their long conflict against Myanmar’s government.
Here’s the Mother Jones interview with a pro-democracy protester Zack mentioned.
And here’s Vox’s explainer on the Myanmar coup.
Hosts:
Zack Beauchamp (@zackbeauchamp), senior correspondent, Vox
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4/1/2021 • 42 minutes, 52 seconds
Your questions about the world, answered
In a very special Worldly episode, Zack, Jenn, and Alex answer YOUR questions! From the many great listener questions sent in over the last several weeks, the gang picked four to answer in this week’s episode: What is “the Quad” and how does it fit into geopolitics in the Indo-Pacific; what’s driving migration to the US from Central America; why Imperial Japan’s use of Korean forced labor and “comfort women” in the 1930s and ’40s continues to complicate relations between Japan and South Korea today; and how to go about explaining world affairs topics to folks who don’t have a deep background in these subjects.
References:
Alex wrote an explainer on “the Quad.”
Vox has a piece on the hurricane’s effects in Central America.
Here’s Jen Kirby’s story about a better US policy for the Golden Triangle.
This is the Washington Post analysis on the situation at the border.
Deutsche Welle has a smart explainer on the forced labor issue on the Korean Peninsula.
The Asahi Shimbun has a report on the Japanese firms facing a wartime damages suit.
Hosts:
Zack Beauchamp (@zackbeauchamp), senior correspondent, Vox
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3/25/2021 • 51 minutes, 34 seconds
Europe’s vaccine disaster
Zack, Jenn, and Alex discuss the raft of problems stymying Europe’s vaccine rollout, which has been slower and messier than expected, given some of the earlier successes the continent had controlling infection rates. They talk about why some countries decided to pause administering the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine and how the EU’s decision to negotiate for vaccines as a bloc, rather than as individual countries, slowed down the rollout and exacerbated tensions between some of the wealthier and less-wealthy countries in the bloc. They also discuss what all of this turmoil might mean for the future of the EU as a political institution.
References:
Politico Europe has a great piece on how the EU fell behind on vaccines.
Yes, Germany was let off the hook after it tried to make a side vaccine deal.
The Washington Post noted that the EU pays less than the US for vaccines.
Here’s the survey showing Europe is the most vaccine-skeptical region of the world.
The New York Times reported politics may have played a bigger role in the AstraZeneca vaccine freeze than science.
This is the Science magazine piece Jenn mentioned about the blood clots.
The Washington Post reported that Europe may be headed into a third coronavirus wave.
The Atlantic has a smart piece on France’s vaccine skepticism.
Hosts:
Zack Beauchamp (@zackbeauchamp), senior correspondent, Vox
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3/18/2021 • 55 minutes, 59 seconds
The Trump of the Tropics vs. the Bernie of Brazil
Zack, Jenn, and Alex discuss the huge news out of Brazil this week, where a judge annulled the corruption conviction of the country’s former leftist president, Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva, opening the door for him to possibly run for president in 2022. The gang talks about what Lula was accused of, the debate about whether the case was fairly prosecuted, why Lula is revered by many of the country’s poor but loathed by its conservative elites, and how his return to the political scene could set the stage for a fiery election contest against the country’s current president, the far-right Jair Bolsonaro.
References:
Two Vox videos, one on Operation Car Wash and the other on Bolsonaro’s rise, provide great context.
Back when it happened, Zack explained Operation Car Wash for Vox.
Here’s Lula’s recent interview with The Ink where he discusses his, uh, vigor.
The Intercept Brazil showed Sergio Moro’s connections to the prosecution during Operation Car Wash.
Voice of America offered a good rundown of the case against Lula.
Reuters covered Lula’s “stump speech” that has many speculating about his 2022 plans.
Bolsonaro’s messaging on Covid-19 has been disastrous, BBC News reported.
The stats Jenn cited about Lula’s approval rating after he left office came from El País.
Hosts:
Zack Beauchamp (@zackbeauchamp), senior correspondent, Vox
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3/11/2021 • 46 minutes
The future of the US-Saudi relationship (ft. Sen. Chris Murphy)
Zack, Jenn, and Alex debate whether the US should continue to treat Saudi Arabia as a close partner given its atrocious human rights abuses and the declining US dependence on Middle Eastern oil. In the second half of the show, Jenn interviews Sen. Chris Murphy (D-CT) about his proposed strategy for a new US approach to the Persian Gulf.
References:
Read Sen. Murphy’s Foreign Affairs piece on a new Middle East strategy
Read Alex’s profile about Sen. Murphy’s foreign policy views.
Alex also wrote about how Biden didn’t follow through on his promise to punish MBS.
CNN reported that the Biden administration never considered sanctioning MBS.
In 2018 Alex conducted an interview with an expert on why the US wouldn’t end its relationship with Saudi Arabia over the Khashoggi murder.
You can read America’s intelligence report on the Khashoggi murder.
Hosts:
Zack Beauchamp (@zackbeauchamp), senior correspondent, Vox
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3/4/2021 • 1 hour, 5 minutes, 47 seconds
Why Biden hasn’t reentered the Iran deal — yet
Zack, Jenn, and Alex break down why the Biden administration hasn’t yet reentered the Iran nuclear deal. They explain that the process of rejoining is more complicated than it might seem, but that it’s still likely the deal will come back eventually. They then debate the pros and cons of rejoining the accord and how well the Obama foreign policy team — many of whom have joined the Biden administration — handled the pact. One point of agreement: The Trump administration’s Iran policy failed.
References:
Alex wrote about the impending US-Iran talks over the nuclear deal.
And he also wrote about Colin Kahl’s under-threat confirmation.
Foreign Policy asks if Biden took too long to reengage Iran.
Jenn noted a Politico magazine story detailing how the Obama administration let a Hezbollah criminal enterprise proceed to help strike the 2015 deal.
Al Jazeera reported on then-Secretary of State Mike Pompeo’s 12 demands on Iran. He achieved none of them.
Vox has a great visual explainer on the Iran deal.
Hosts:
Zack Beauchamp (@zackbeauchamp), senior correspondent, Vox
Jennifer Williams (@jenn_ruth), senior foreign editor, Vox
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2/25/2021 • 46 minutes, 23 seconds
The world’s great powers
Zack, Jenn, and Alex break down one of the DC foreign policy world’s hottest new catchphrases: “great power competition.” It’s the idea that international politics in the 21st century will be dominated by a struggle for influence between the US, China, and (to a lesser extent) Russia. The gang talks about what the concept actually means and whether it’s a useful framework for understanding international politics today and in the future.
References:
Dan Nexon’s Foreign Affairs article inspired the Worldly crew to record this episode.
The Atlantic had an excellent piece explaining how “great power competition” became a DC buzzword.
The National Interest had an op-ed detailing why great power competition could be a problem.
Matthew Kroenig wrote in Foreign Policy on how the US should outline goals for its competition with China.
The Congressional Research Service has a comprehensive report on what “great power competition” has meant in recent years.
Hosts:
Zack Beauchamp (@zackbeauchamp), senior correspondent, Vox
Jennifer Williams (@jenn_ruth), senior foreign editor, Vox
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2/18/2021 • 54 minutes, 11 seconds
Protesting farmers, India's democracy, and Rihanna
Zack, Jenn, and Alex discuss the huge farmers’ protests in India. They explain the very real policy debate over new agricultural reform laws that sparked the protests, and how that debate has now been obscured by Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s Hindu nationalist politics, international celebrity activism, and online trolls. Oh, and they talk about Rihanna. Yes, that Rihanna.
References:
Vox’s Jariel Arvin explains the Indian farmers’ protest.
And he also writes about why India’s government is mad at Rihanna.
Plus, Vox has a smart video on the protests.
The India Forum has an excellent deep dive into India’s three farming reforms.
Scientific American lays out the environmental problems with farming in India.
The New Yorker in 2019 had an excellent feature on Modi’s Hindu nationalism.
The Times of India looks into the rise of internet trolls.
Hosts:
Zack Beauchamp (@zackbeauchamp), senior correspondent, Vox
Jennifer Williams (@jenn_ruth), senior foreign editor, Vox
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2/11/2021 • 44 minutes, 30 seconds
Myanmar’s coup has no heroes
Zack, Jenn, and Alex discuss the recent coup in Myanmar, in which the Myanmarese military deposed the country’s quasi-democratic government and detained its civilian leader, Aung San Suu Kyi, along with hundreds of members of her political party. They look at why this happened, explain why both sides in this fight are morally compromised, explore what the Biden administration and the international community can (and can’t) do in response, and project what this means for the future of Myanmar's democracy — and the safety of the country’s many persecuted minority groups.
References:
Alex wrote an explainer on the Myanmar coup.
And he also wrote about why the coup is a problem for Biden’s pro-democracy agenda.
Jen Kirby wrote on why the coup is deeply troubling for Myanmar’s most vulnerable.
And she wrote about the laughable charges the military leveled against Aung Sang Suu Kyi.
The AP explains the differences between “Myanmar” and “Burma.”
The new military leadership has shut down Facebook, Reuters reported.
Slate has a great piece on why an Obama-era democratization push for Myanmar probably won’t happen this time.
Here’s the Foreign Policy story with the headline “Who Lost Myanmar?”
Hosts:
Zack Beauchamp (@zackbeauchamp), senior correspondent, Vox
Jennifer Williams (@jenn_ruth), senior foreign editor, Vox
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2/4/2021 • 44 minutes, 12 seconds
Why Putin wants Alexei Navalny dead
Zack, Jenn, and Alex discuss the nationwide demonstrations in Russia in support of dissident opposition leader Alexei Navalny, who returned to the country this week from Germany, where he was recuperating from a poisoning believed to be an assassination attempt directed by the Kremlin. Navalny was immediately arrested upon his arrival, sparking protests across the country. The gang discusses who Navalny is, why President Vladimir Putin views him as a threat to his grip on power, and what the protests might mean for the future of Russia.
References:
Vox has a piece on last weekend’s protests.
Alex wrote about the Biden-Putin call and Navalny’s arrest.
You can find Navalny’s platform here.
Check out Pod Save the World’s interview with a Russian journalist about Navalny.
Russian reporter Alexey Kovalev writes that “something special just happened in Russia.”
This is the Time piece Zack mentioned.
Political scientist Timothy Frye wrote about Putin’s “repression trap” for the Washington Post.
The Atlantic profiles some of Navalny’s most unsavory views.
Jenn noted that Russia has an Internet repression problem.
Hosts:
Zack Beauchamp (@zackbeauchamp), senior correspondent, Vox
Jennifer Williams (@jenn_ruth), senior foreign editor, Vox
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1/28/2021 • 46 minutes, 9 seconds
Biden’s World
Zack, Jenn, and Alex host the first Worldly episode of the Biden administration, the show’s first-ever episode when Donald Trump is not president. They discuss how US foreign policy will differ under Biden — and surprising ways it might stay the same — on topics ranging from China to Middle Eastern alliances to climate change.
References:
Alex has a thorough explainer on Biden’s foreign policy.
Zack wrote that it’s okay to feel hope after Biden’s inauguration.
Here’s Biden putting the US back in the Paris climate agreement.
And here’s Biden having the US rejoin the World Health Organization.
Vox wrote up how the confirmation hearings for Biden’s key national security Cabinet picks went this week.
Hosts:
Zack Beauchamp (@zackbeauchamp), senior correspondent, Vox
Jennifer Williams (@jenn_ruth), senior foreign editor, Vox
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1/21/2021 • 47 minutes, 49 seconds
Was it terrorism?
Zack, Jenn, and Alex discuss how the US Capitol insurrection fits into the broader spectrum of far-right political violence in the US. They debate whether the incident should be considered an act of terrorism, and if so, what that means in terms of how to craft policy responses to the threat. They end by looking at President Donald Trump’s role in uniting disparate far-right groups, from white supremacists to eco-fascists to anti-government militias, into a loose but dangerous coalition that may persist long after he leaves office.
References:
Jenn has a Vox story on what constitutes “domestic terrorism”
Zack wrote that “Republicans own this”
Vox’s Fabiola Cineas says that “Donald Trump is the accelerant”
Here’s Vox’s explainer on the Proud Boys
And here’s Vox’s explainer on the QAnon conspiracy theory
Lawfare has a smart piece on how the far-right is fractured
Vice wrote about how neo-Nazis use imagery of Osama bin Laden
Hosts:
Zack Beauchamp (@zackbeauchamp), senior correspondent, Vox
Jennifer Williams (@jenn_ruth), senior foreign editor, Vox
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1/14/2021 • 46 minutes, 16 seconds
America, humiliated
Zack, Jenn, and Jen Kirby discuss the assault on the US Capitol by a pro-Trump insurrection that has shaken America to its core. They look at the intelligence and law enforcement failures that allowed a mob to so easily seize one of the pillars of American government despite the US having spent billions on national security since 9/11. In the second half of the show, they talk about the damage the siege has done to America’s image abroad and what that means for the future of global politics and democracy.
References:
Threats spread online before the assault on the US Capitol
Buzzfeed’s report on the right-wing online organizing
What we know about the security failures
The Washington Post’s report on the role of the National Guard
A coup expert on Wednesday’s events
How world leaders are reacting
ITV’s report on the Capitol insurrection
The Atlantic’s Anne Applebaum on the diminished power of America’s democratic example
Hosts:
Zack Beauchamp (@zackbeauchamp), senior correspondent, Vox
Jennifer Williams (@jenn_ruth), senior foreign editor, Vox
Jen Kirby (@j_kirby1), foreign reporter, Vox
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1/7/2021 • 46 minutes, 20 seconds
Hindsight is 2020
Jenn, Alex, and Jen wrap up 2020 by discussing the biggest stories that flew under the radar this year because of, well, everything. They talk about the war in Ethiopia, a major leadership change in Japan, and Russian President Vladimir Putin’s constitutional amendments that allow him to stay in power basically for life. Then they turn to the big storylines they’re watching in 2021, including the end of Angela Merkel’s chancellorship in Germany, Joe Biden’s Latin America policy, and potential North Korean provocations. Most importantly, the gang wishes everyone a safe and joyful holiday season.
References:
Today, Explained explains Ethiopia’s crisis
A top aid official on Ethiopia’s humanitarian crisis
Alex’s reporting on Japan’s remilitarization
Who is Japan’s new prime minister?
Putin’s president-for-life plans
The race to replace Angela Merkel
Joe Biden looks to Latin America
The challenges of US policy in Latin America
Will Kim Jong Un welcome Biden with a weapons test?
Hosts:
Jennifer Williams (@jenn_ruth), senior foreign editor, Vox
Alex Ward (@AlexWardVox), national security reporter, Vox
Jen Kirby (@j_kirby1), foreign reporter, Vox
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12/17/2020 • 51 minutes, 49 seconds
The last Brexit
Jenn, Alex, and Jen talk about how Brexit is for real — for real! — happening on January 1, but it won’t be so easy. Three sticking points stand between a UK-EU trade deal: fishing, keeping a level economic playing field, and a mechanism to dispute rule breaking. These may seem simple on the surface, but they’re deeply important issues that speak to larger concerns among Europeans and in global politics. The gang finishes up by reflecting on the wild ride this whole Brexit omnishambles has been.
References:
Where the Brexit talks stand
Why fishing is dominating the Brexit discussion
A look at all of the Brexit sticking points
The Northern Ireland protocol: it’s complicated
The EU offered a contingency plan to avert the worst-case no-deal scenario
What happens if there isn’t a deal
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12/10/2020 • 43 minutes, 50 seconds
Beijing’s bad tweet
Jenn, Alex, and Jen talk about the diplomatic spat between China and Australia that erupted this week after a Chinese official tweeted a fake image of an Australian soldier threatening a young Afghan child with a knife. Though the image was fake, it highlighted real war crimes allegedly committed by Australian soldiers in Afghanistan. The crew explains why China, a notorious human rights abuser itself, is trolling Australia on Twitter about this issue, and how it fits into China's broader geopolitical strategy to bully countries into keeping quiet about its own failings.
References:
The Australia-China diplomatic spat, explained
An inquiry found Australian special forces committed possible war crimes in Afghanistan
The potential costs of a trade war between Australia and China
How Australia’s allies are responding to its feud with China
The US government also did some trolling of its own
A look at China’s “wolf warrior” diplomacy
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12/3/2020 • 36 minutes, 5 seconds
Fewer troops, forever wars
Alex and Jen discuss President Trump’s decision to draw down the number of US troops in Afghanistan and Iraq. They explain the slapdash announcement and rushed plan, and the inherent tensions between wanting to end a long war and America’s responsibility to the people of the countries it has invaded. The gang also turns to what Trump’s Pentagon shake-up really means, and what President-elect Joe Biden should prepare to inherit in January.
References:
The US is drawing down troops in Afghanistan and Iraq.
Trump has promised to bring troops home by Christmas.
He didn’t quite get that, even with a new Pentagon chief.
The big question: Will these withdrawals box Biden in on foreign policy?
Trump has also appointed a lot of loyalists to the Pentagon recently.
Shake-ups could reshape foreign policy in the last months of Trump’s term.
And maybe remake the federal bureaucracy. Here’s Trump Inc.’s investigation.
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11/19/2020 • 42 minutes, 14 seconds
Lost in Transition
Jenn, Alex, and Jen talk about the stalled transition process from President Trump to President-elect Biden. They discuss the possible national security implications and what Trump’s refusal to accept the election results says — and doesn’t say — about American exceptionalism. They conclude with how the world has reacted to the results, including Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s “ear to ear” smile during a congratulatory phone call with Biden.
References:
Why a smooth presidential transition isn’t happening right now.
The stalled transition process is raising national security concerns.
Trump is trying to overturn a clear election result.
Secretary of State Mike Pompeo is also undermining US democracy.
The rest of the world is moving on as allies and foreign leaders congratulate Biden.
Still, the world’s strongmen have been slow to recognize Biden as the new president.
But look how happy Justin is!
Hosts:
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11/12/2020 • 42 minutes, 11 seconds
If Joe wins
Jenn, Alex, and guest host Jen Kirby — who will be filling in for Zack while he’s on paternity leave — talk about what a Joe Biden victory would mean for the world. At the moment of taping, Biden is on the cusp of winning the presidency and Republicans look likely to hold on to their Senate majority. Both results, if they pan out, would impact US foreign policy and how the world views America. The sleep-deprived Worldly gang lays it all out.
References:
Here’s the current state of the presidential race.
Alex’s deep dive on what a Biden foreign policy might look like.
The frontrunners for Biden’s foreign policy team.
Mitch McConnell has already signaled he may make Senate confirmation tough.
Biden wants to tell the world that “America’s back.”
But a reminder that, whatever happens, Biden will inherit a very different world.
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11/5/2020 • 44 minutes, 22 seconds
France, Islam, and free speech
Jenn and Alex discuss the recent terror attacks in France that have occurred amid a national and international uproar about cartoons of the Prophet Muhammed and President Emmanuel Macron’s stance toward Islam in the country. They discuss what Macron’s push for an “Islam of France” really means, the complexities for Muslims to fully integrate into French society, and the ongoing debate about freedom of expression vs. respect for religion. They end by discussing the global response to what’s happening in France, especially the hypocrisy of certain Muslim leaders who are using a contentious issue to benefit themselves.
References:
Alex has two pieces about the situation in France.
A McGill study shows the challenges Muslims have faced to fully integrate in France.
A smart opinion piece in Politico argues Macron isn’t a hardliner against Islam.
Marine Le Pen, Macron’s far-right challenger, is already calling what’s happening a “war.”
Turkey’s leader is using this situation to distract from his economic problems at home.
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10/29/2020 • 49 minutes, 38 seconds
American democracy, hacked
Zack, Jenn, and Alex put the upcoming American elections in global context. They explain why long polling lines and gerrymandered districts are very much not the norm among advanced democracies and how other countries avoid them. Then they dissect the latest news about Russian, Iranian, and other foreign interference in the 2020 election — and debate whether it even matters anymore.
References:
Here’s Alex’s piece for Vox on how other countries do elections better.
And Jen Kirby wrote for Vox on what US intelligence leaders said yesterday about Russia’s and Iran’s interference efforts.
BBC News explains why it can be hard to vote in America.
NBC News reported on how China is adopting interference techniques the Russians have been using.
In August, a top US intelligence official said China, Russia, and Iran were interfering in the 2020 election for differing reasons.
CyberScoop reported that North Korea, Cuba, and Saudi Arabia also aim to sway the vote.
The US Justice Department charged Russians with interfering in the elections this week.
Hosts:
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10/22/2020 • 47 minutes, 11 seconds
Nigeria’s bad cop ring, Thailand’s playboy king
Zack, Jenn, and Alex talk about two huge ongoing protest movements: demonstrations against police violence in Nigeria and against monarchical privilege in Thailand. The team breaks down the Special Anti-Robbery Squad (SARS), the violent police unit at the heart of the Nigerian protests, and talk about the problems with policing in that country in general and in international context. Then they discuss the student-led protests in Thailand — kicked off by authoritarian repression in the name of Thailand’s very strange king — and put it context of the general struggle for democracy in the Southeast Asian country.
References:
Deutsche Welle has a great video on Nigeria’s protests.
One of the big problems with SARS is that its officers don’t get paid much.
Multiple academic studies point to the lack of community policing as a major problem in Nigeria.
The Conversation has a smart piece on why ending SARS won’t lead to much better policing in Nigeria.
Here’s that Charles Tilley study Zack mentioned.
Amnesty International has a report detailing alleged human rights abuses by SARS.
New Mandala explains the 10 demands Thai protesters have of their government.
Vox profiles Thailand’s playboy king.
The BBC has helpful information on how the protests got started.
A Thai professor explains to Bloomberg what makes these Thai protests so different.
Hosts:
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10/15/2020 • 45 minutes
The Armenia-Azerbaijan conflict
Zack, Jenn, and Alex explain the fighting between Armenia and Azerbaijan over Nagorno-Karabakh — a contested region inside Azerbaijani borders but populated largely by ethnic Armenians. They break down the Soviet-era origins of the conflict, discuss why the fighting has flared up in a particularly scary way this summer and fall, and then zoom out to the role that major powers like Russia and Turkey play.
References:
Alex wrote an explainer for Vox on the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict.
Also check out Politico’s explainer on the issue.
The Guardian reported on how half of Nagorno-Karabakh’s population has already been displaced.
The OSCE Minsk Group co-chairs plan to meet to discuss an end to the fighting.
Meduza has some helpful history that clears up why this conflict has lasted for so long.
Hosts:
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10/8/2020 • 38 minutes, 18 seconds
India vs. Amnesty International
Zack, Jenn, and Alex talk about Amnesty International’s decision to suspend operations in India — the only other country in which the human rights watchdog has done so besides Russia. They explain the pressure campaign from the Indian government, centering on an obscure anti-money laundering law, that forced Amnesty into this move and talk about the broader context of democratic decline under Prime Minister Narendra Modi. Then they zoom out to put this in global context, connecting India’s war on NGOs to developments in other backsliding democracies (or fully backslid ones) like Israel, Hungary, and the United States.
References:
Here’s the Indian government’s statement on the whole issue, and here’s Amnesty’s.
This is Amnesty’s report on the Delhi riots.
India’s Print has a great explainer on the FCRA and what it means for NGOs.
The UN condemned the FCRA in 2016.
Amnesty’s Rajat Khosla explained why Amnesty’s work is important for India in the Guardian.
As Jenn mentioned, Russia has also targeted NGOs.
Hosts:
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10/1/2020 • 44 minutes, 15 seconds
Is Trump bringing peace to the Middle East?
Zack, Jenn, and Alex break down the “peace deals” between Israel and two Gulf states, the United Arab Emirates and Bahrain. They explain what’s in the agreements, how they happened, and why Trump is using the agreements to sell himself as a peacemaker. Then they zoom out and explain what the agreements tell us about Middle Eastern geopolitics — and whether they’re likely to make things better or worse in the region.
References:
You can read the official documents of both normalization deals here.
Vox has articles on the Israel normalization deals with Bahrain and the UAE.
Former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright and former National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley write in Politico their hope that the deals lead to a better Middle East future.
These articles in Tablet Magazine and the Washington Post tackle, from different angles, how the normalization deals show that previous assumptions about Middle East politics were wrong.
Roger Cohen of the New York Times thinks the normalization process is a “mirage.”
Palestine quit its leading role in the Arab League over the Israel deals.
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9/24/2020 • 52 minutes, 13 seconds
The new politics of energy (ft. Daniel Yergin)
Zack, Jenn, and Alex are joined by a special guest — eminent energy politics expert Daniel Yergin — to talk about the way that the shale revolution and rise of renewables are changing global politics. In the first half, the hosts discuss the big picture: America’s shift from a net importer to a net exporter of energy, among other things, has made the Middle Eastern oil cartel far less central to global politics than it once was. In the second half, Alex talks with Yergin about his new book on this subject, The New Map, and drills down (pun intended) on what all of this means for 21st-century geopolitics.
References:
You find Daniel Yergin’s book The New Map here, and his essay version of the book at the Wall Street Journal.
NPR has a good primer on America’s energy boom.
The Washington Post explains why Joe Biden pledged not to ban fracking.
You can find all of Vox’s climate change coverage here.
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9/17/2020 • 55 minutes, 42 seconds
Trumped-up intelligence
Zack, Jenn, and Alex discuss a striking new whistleblower complaint about US intelligence under Trump from DHS official Brian Murphy. They run through a series of examples of twisting intelligence, including at least one potentially criminal offense, on topics ranging from immigration to Russian election interference to white nationalist terrorism — and zoom out to discuss how credible these complaints are and why, if true, they paint such a damning picture of US foreign policy under Trump.
References:
Here is the whistleblower complaint.
Jenn referenced a Center for Public Integrity report on Guatemala.
She also mentioned that former Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen, accused of perjury in the whistleblower complaint, lied about the administration’s family separation policy before.
Alex wrote on the US intelligence community’s findings in 2019 that contradict Trump’s worldview.
Zack referenced how some top Department of Homeland Security officials mentioned in the whistleblower complaint are in their roles illegally.
This is the statement by top US intelligence official Bill Evanina on election interference, which mentions China’s efforts before Russia’s.
Zack has a great Vox explainer on what antifa actually is, and isn’t.
Alex reported the comments from the senior White House official implicating National Security Adviser Robert O’Brien on Twitter.
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9/10/2020 • 46 minutes, 10 seconds
Europe’s second coronavirus wave
Zack, Jenn, and Alex talk about the second Covid-19 wave hitting Spain — and to a lesser extent, Europe in general. They break down the specifics of what happened in Spain: how too-fast reopenings and a decentralized political system helped the virus come roaring back. Then they analyze a strange fact about the European second wave: Though cases are increasing, the death rate remains low (for now).
References:
The New York Times has a great story on Spain’s second wave which the gang cited a few times.
Alex wrote about Spain’s first outbreak.
Spain’s El País has many stories in English detailing what’s going on with the country’s newest outbreak.
Spain has again banned nightclubs and closed bars over coronavirus concerns.
The Washington Post explains why there are many coronavirus cases but few deaths in Europe.
Euronews has handy charts tracking the newest surges across the continent.
If you find yourself in Barcelona, Alex wants you to try out his favorite bar with the “no singing” sign.
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9/3/2020 • 44 minutes, 58 seconds
How Donald Trump sees the world
Zack, Jenn, and Alex move from Biden’s foreign policy to Trump’s — examining the record the incumbent president has racked up in his first term and what might happen if he wins a second. They debate what accomplishments the president can claim (if any) and discuss the ways his reelection could transform the world. Come for the foreign policy analysis, stay for the monologue about Jean Baudrillard.
References:
The Council on Foreign Relations has a good overview of Trump’s first-term foreign policy moments.
Alex wrote a story about how Trump could plausibly tout some foreign policy successes during the campaign.
Jenn mentioned how Trump ordered the killing of Qassem Soleimani.
Zack cited the book The Gulf War Did Not Take Place by Jean Baudrillard.
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8/27/2020 • 47 minutes, 40 seconds
How Joe Biden sees the world
Zack, Jenn, and Alex take the Democratic National Convention as an opportunity to talk about Joe Biden’s foreign policy. They go deep into his long and seemingly contradictory record as a policymaker, discuss what he’s said he’s going to do if elected, and contrast his worldview with the views of Trump and Obama. Ultimately, it seems like Biden wants to take the world back to the way that it was before Trump was elected — but has a very personal way of trying to get there.
References:
Here’s Alex’s feature on what Joe Biden’s foreign policy would look like
And this is Alex and Tara Golshan’s story on Joe Biden’s complicated Iraq war history
Jenn mentioned this Politico story, which noted Biden’s lack of preparation for meetings
And she referenced Biden’s detailed answers to foreign policy questions in this New York Times interview
The Council on Foreign Relations has a useful guide on where the two presidential and two VP candidates stand on foreign policy
Joe Biden’s foreign policy speech during the Democratic primary last year is definitely worth a read
The New York Times has a great story on Biden’s personal touch to foreign policy and his use of “strategic empathy”
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8/20/2020 • 43 minutes, 8 seconds
Vaccine nationalism
Alex and returning guest Jen Kirby talk about Russian President Vladimir Putin’s claim that Moscow has developed a coronavirus vaccine. They discuss how Russia skipped several safety steps and how the announcement highlights the troubling problem of “vaccine nationalism.” Basically, it’s every country for itself when creating a Covid-19 vaccine instead of working together — which could make it harder for the world to stop the pandemic.
References:
Here’s Jen Kirby’s excellent “vaccine nationalism” explainer
Science Magazine explains why Russia’s vaccine announcement isn’t as impressive as it seems
Harvard Business Review details why vaccine nationalism is so dangerous
Yes, Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte said he wanted to take the Russian-made vaccine, but has since walked back his boast
Vox’s Umair Irfan outlined why Covid-19 trials show promise, but are still rife with complications
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8/13/2020 • 40 minutes, 10 seconds
The last safeguard against nuclear war is about to fall
To mark the 75th anniversary of the bombing of Hiroshima, Zack, Jenn, and Alex talk about an alarming series of recent US withdrawals from nuclear arms control agreements. They explain the history of nuclear arms control, why the US has turned against them (especially in the Trump era), and why this makes the small but still very scary risk of nuclear war go up. They also talk about some other scary nuclear news — China’s recently uncovered support for Saudi Arabia’s nuclear program — and how progress could be made on saving the international arms control regime.
References:
Here’s Alex’s long feature on “the end of arms control as we know it.”
He also wrote about how a nuclear war kills you.
The Wall Street Journal broke the story on Saudi Arabia’s secret nuclear facility.
Ernest Moniz, the energy secretary in the Obama administration, thinks the risk of nuclear weapons use is at its highest point since the Cuban missile crisis.
The US military just showed off its new hypersonic missile.
Vox has a story on the Soviet colonel who stopped a nuclear crisis from escalating.
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8/6/2020 • 46 minutes, 27 seconds
No troops for you
Jenn and Alex discuss the Trump administration’s controversial decision, formally announced this week, to move forward with a plan to withdraw nearly 12,000 troops from Germany. Critics from both parties say it’s a gift to Russia, while the Pentagon argues it’s a necessary repositioning of forces to better deter Russia in Eastern Europe. President Trump, though, says he’s doing it because Germany isn’t paying its fair share in NATO (a misleading claim at best). Alex and Jenn talk through the merits of the different arguments and examine what the troop reduction could mean for the future of Europe.
References:
You can find the official Pentagon statements on the decision here and here
NATO has a bunch of defense spending charts
Deutsche Welle has what you need to know about the troop withdrawal decision here and here
Members of Trump’s team seem to really like the idea
That time when Merkel rebuffed Trump’s G7 summit invitation, kicking this whole drama off
Find Trump’s comments for the decision here
The Biden campaign sent Alex a statement on the troop withdrawal issue
And here’s that Twitter question Alex asked that got a major conversation going about the “gift” to Putin charge
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7/30/2020 • 43 minutes, 40 seconds
The moral urgency of the Uighur crisis
Zack, Jenn, and Alex talk about the Chinese government's systematic detention of tens of thousands of Uighur Muslims in concentration camps, where many are subjected to torture, brainwashing, and other human rights abuses. They get into the disturbing details of what China is actually doing in these camps, what’s motivating the Chinese leadership to engage in such atrocities, and why the US and international community aren't doing enough to stop it. They conclude by discussing what we can all do to try to change that.
References:
Vox’s Jen Kirby has a 2018 explainer on China’s treatment of Uighur Muslims.
China is forcing the sterilization of Uighur Muslims, and is using Uighur labor to make coronavirus-related PPE.
You can find How China Sees the World: Han-Centrism and the Balance of Power in International Politics, the book Alex read from, here.
The New York Times reported on about 400 leaked papers from the Chinese government detailing its plan to harshly treat Uighur Muslims.
Axios reports how the Chinese government has struggled to explain reports and images of Uighurs put into concentration camps.
The BBC reports how companies like Apple and Nike are facing pressure to cut ties with suppliers that use forced Uighur labor.
Vice has a stunning documentary on “China’s Vanishing Muslims,” and PBS’s Frontline went “undercover” to see what’s really happening in Xinjiang.
There are many groups accepting donations if you want to try to help Uighur Muslims in China.
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7/23/2020 • 46 minutes, 52 seconds
Israel was going to annex the West Bank. It didn't.
Zack, Jenn, and Alex discuss the stalled Israeli plan to unilaterally annex parts of the West Bank. The deeply controversial move was supposed to take place on July 1, but at the last minute Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu decided not to go through with it — for now, at least. The Worldly crew looks at what factors may have led to his sudden reversal and what might happen next. In the second half of the show, the gang examines how the politics in the Democratic Party around the US-Israel relationship are shifting and what all of this means for the future of the two-state solution.
References:
Here’s Jen Kirby’s piece on the annexation plan.
Alex wrote about what Trump’s peace plan actually said.
This New York magazine story talked about the Bowman-Engel race and how Israel played a part in it.
You can find Peter Beinart’s essay that Zack mentioned in Jewish Currents, and here’s Ilan Goldenberg’s op-ed in the Washington Post.
Back in 2016, Zack wrote about how Bernie Sanders broke the Israel taboo.
Polls show most Americans support Palestinian statehood, while another poll shows Americans — but not liberal Democrats — are mainly pro-Israel.
Vox’s Conor Murray wrote about how Israel’s second coronavirus wave is a problem for Netanyahu.
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7/16/2020 • 50 minutes, 41 seconds
The end of Hong Kong
Zack and Jenn talk about China's new national security law in Hong Kong, a ploy by Beijing to seize more control of the semi-autonomous city. They explain how the law vacates Hong Kong’s democratic freedoms and how Hongkongers have been responding. Then they zoom out to talk about what the world can do to address the increasingly horrific human rights abuses of Xi Jinping’s government — and why the integration of China into the global economy, while tremendously beneficial in many ways, makes this all so much harder.
References:
Here’s Jenn’s piece with Conor Murray on the Hong Kong national security law and the immediate aftermath, which includes the photo Jenn mentioned of a pro-democracy lawmaker being arrested by riot police.
And Vox’s Jen Kirby’s bigger explainer on the law and what it means for Hong Kong’s future.
You can read the official English translation of the law itself here.
This is the tweet from the Hong Kong Police Force announcing the first arrest under the new law.
A good piece from the Atlantic detailing how the law was crafted in secrecy without the input of Hong Kong Chief Executive Carrie Lam or Hong Kong’s legislature.
The NPR report Jenn referenced that talks about the new “National Security Committee” established under the law that allows Beijing to oversee prosecutions of the law in Hong Kong.
Here’s a chapter from a book from the Peterson Institute for International Economics that looks at the question of whether and under what conditions economic sanctions work to compel countries to change their policies.
This is a great video explainer on China’s secret internment camps for Uighur Muslims; Jen Kirby has a thorough written explainer on the subject here; and Vox’s Sigal Samuel, who spent months reporting on the Uighur situation, did a Reddit AMA on the subject, the highlights of which you can read here.
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7/9/2020 • 40 minutes, 41 seconds
Is Trump letting Putin get away with murder?
Zack and Jenn break down the growing scandal surrounding intelligence reports that Russia paid bounties to the Taliban to attack US troops in Afghanistan. They walk through the evidence so far that Russia did this and what Vladimir Putin’s motivations might have been. Then they talk about the evidence that Trump knew about it and did nothing — and how this points to a much bigger problem for American foreign policy in the Trump era.
References:
Zack has a really great explainer on the entire scandal
Here’s a collection of some of the key New York Times reports on the story: the first story they broke; the story about the data on financial transfers from a bank account linked to Russia’s GRU to a Taliban-linked account; and the story about the Afghan businessman alleged to have been the intermediary in the Russian scheme.
Here’s Trump’s tweet calling this all a “Fake News Media Hoax” nearly a week after the news first broke
This is the AP piece reporting that Trump’s former National Security Adviser John Bolton personally briefed Trump on the intelligence in March 2019
And this is the New York Times report in which an intelligence official says the information was specifically included in Trump’s February 27 President’s Daily Brief
Here’s more about one of the attacks on US forces in Afghanistan, outside Bagram Air Base, that is reportedly being investigated in connection with the Russian bounty scheme
This is a New York Times piece from May 2020 about how hard it is to get Trump to pay attention to and absorb the information he’s being given in his intelligence briefings, based on interviews with 10 current and former intelligence officials
And here’s a Politico report that talks about how White House officials particularly don’t enjoy having to brief Trump on Russia-related issues because of his negative reactions when they do:
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7/2/2020 • 44 minutes, 53 seconds
North Korea blows up the peace process — literally
Zack and Alex cope with Jenn’s absence by talking about one of their favorite topics: North Korea. In recent weeks, North Korea ramped up military tensions with South Korea and literally blew up the latter’s de facto embassy in the country. It seems that the US-led negotiating process with North Korea, ongoing since 2018, has conclusively failed. The team explains what happened, the deep strategic and political reasons behind the talks’ collapse, and then predict what might happen with North Korea if Biden wins the 2020 US election.
References:
The New York Times has a great write-up for North Korea’s hot and cold strategy.
Zack wrote for Vox that the US should contain North Korea’s nuclear program, not seek to end it.
Alex did an interview with Kim Jong Un biographer Anna Fifield about what makes him tick.
If you want to learn more about North Korea, here are your main nine questions, answered.
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6/25/2020 • 41 minutes, 41 seconds
Don't buy John Bolton's book. Listen to this podcast instead.
Zack, Jenn, and Alex go through the published excerpts from and quotes of John Bolton’s new book — a tell-all about his time as Trump’s national security adviser. They talk about the most shocking moment in the text, Trump’s alleged support for China putting Uighur Muslims in concentration camps, and run through some of the other revealing moments in the book and what they tell us about the way US foreign policy works today. Then they zoom out to this context: How much should we trust John Bolton’s version of events, and how angry should we be about his book coming out now rather than during Trump’s impeachment?
References:
Here are the three main write-ups of Bolton’s book in the Wall Street Journal, the New York Times, and Washington Post.
This is Bolton’s other book Alex mentioned.
Vox’s Jen Kirby has a helpful explainer on the Uighur issue.
Kirby also has a great piece on the seven most disturbing allegations in Bolton’s new book.
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6/18/2020 • 41 minutes, 56 seconds
The statues are coming down
Zack, Jenn, and Alex continue last week’s conversation about the ongoing global reckoning surrounding race, this time focusing on the movement to remove controversial statues. In several Western countries — including the United States, Belgium, and the United Kingdom — people are demanding that statues of historically notable slave traders and imperialists be taken down. The Worldly team discusses the significance of these fights, and look to two other examples of countries that have dealt with issues of historical memory and atrocity: Germany and Japan.
References:
This is a good brief explainer on the Edward Colston statue coming down in the UK and his role in Bristol’s history: https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/07/europe/edward-colston-statue-bristol/index.html
Here’s the Museums of Bristol website describing Colston as “revered philanthropist / reviled slave trader”: https://museums.bristol.gov.uk/narratives.php?irn=2374
This is a good New York Times piece about the Leopold II statue in Antwerp, Belgium, coming down: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/09/world/europe/king-leopold-statue-antwerp.html
The book King Leopold’s Ghost goes deep into King Leopold II’s brutal exploitation of the Congo.
Jenn mentioned Sarah Wildman’s piece for Vox about how Germany has dealt with its past, which discusses the stolpersteine cobblestones and the Topography of Terror memorial: https://www.vox.com/world/2017/8/16/16152088/nazi-swastikas-germany-charlottesville
Here’s a good piece about Belgium’s colonial-era human zoo and the museum where it once stood: https://www.npr.org/2018/09/26/649600217/where-human-zoos-once-stood-a-belgian-museum-now-faces-its-colonial-past
This is a good look at the comfort women statues in South Korea and Japan’s reaction to them: https://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2017/11/13/563838610/comfort-woman-memorial-statues-a-thorn-in-japans-side-now-sit-on-korean-buses
And here’s Belgian soccer player Romelu Lukaku discussing his experience in his own words: https://www.theplayerstribune.com/en-us/articles/romelu-lukaku-ive-got-some-things-to-say
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6/11/2020 • 39 minutes, 50 seconds
How the world sees the George Floyd protests
Zack, Jenn, and Alex discuss the global impact of the anti-police violence protests in America. They talk about large solidarity protests across Europe, explaining why and how they’re such a big deal, and how police violence against foreign journalists is affecting relationships with key allies like Australia. They also talk about how hostile dictatorships, like China and Iran, are exploiting racial tensions to hurt America’s global image and deflect criticism from their own human rights abuses — a tactic with deep Cold War roots.
CORRECTION: We misstated the Canadian city that saw a recent police crackdown against protesters. That occurred in Montreal. We regret the error.
References:
Here’s Vox’s story on the Lafayette Square attack by federal officials.
Friend of the show Jen Kirby has a great piece on how the Floyd protests have gone global.
The decolonization statistics Jenn cited come from the State Department.
You can read more about the European cases Alex listed here.
Alex wrote on the US-Australia rift over the attack on two Australian journalists.
Here’s Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau pausing for 21 seconds after fielding a question on events in the US.
Time magazine had a good piece on US adversaries using the protests to criticize America.
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6/4/2020 • 34 minutes, 10 seconds
A Very British Scandal
Alex and Jenn are joined by returning guest Jen Kirby to discuss the political scandal roiling the UK, in which a top political adviser to Prime Minister Boris Johnson, Dominic Cummings, got caught taking a 260-mile road trip while the rest of the country was on lockdown due to the coronavirus. The Worldly crew discusses why a seemingly trivial violation has become a huge political firestorm, and what it says about the US that something like this wouldn’t even register as a blip on the radar screen of Trump administration scandals.
References:
The BBC has a great timeline of the Cummings scandal.
There’s a smart, short explainer of the whole ordeal at Slate.
You can watch the whole interview with the Scottish woman here.
Vox’s Jen Kirby has an excellent profile of UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson.
Yes, Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner really did skirt coronavirus guidelines to drive to New Jersey.
Vox also has a thorough explainer on Trump accusing Joe Scarborough of murder.
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5/28/2020 • 38 minutes, 33 seconds
Hydroxychloroquine and the dangers of "medical populism"
Zack, Jenn, and Alex talk about the global spread of the idea that hydroxychloroquine can treat coronavirus. Americans know it as Trump’s favorite drug, but the idea actually started with a famous contrarian doctor in France — and its most fervent acolyte in politics is the Brazilian president, not the American one. They talk about how faith in the drug spread globally, despite a lack of evidence and considerable reason to worry about its side effects, and how it exemplifies a style of politics that academics have termed “medical populism.”
References:
The Guardian has a great story on the origins of how hydroxychloroquine became a global phenomenon.
Here’s that study on “medical populism” we talked about so much.
Populists around the world are turning to hydroxychloroquine, reports the Washington Post.
The New York Times has a thorough profile of French doctor Didier Raoult.
You can find the video of Brazilians singing about the drug to President Bolsonaro here.
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5/21/2020 • 35 minutes, 38 seconds
A new “cold war”?
Zack, Jenn, and Alex talk about the idea of a US-China “cold war” — a notion that’s been around for a while, but has become super popular since the coronavirus has turned into a blame game between the world’s two leading powers. They discuss what it would mean for the countries to be in such a conflict, compare it to the actual Cold War, debate whether the term really applies to the US, and wrap up by talking about how or whether tensions between Washington and Beijing could successfully be dialed down. There are references to Blink-182, The Office, and thumb war.
References:
Alex wrote about how China is exploiting the coronavirus crisis to achieve its goals faster.
Here’s Vice President Mike Pence’s China speech at the Hudson Institute.
There really are a lot of stories — see here, here, and here — on the US-China “cold war.”
Everything you wanted to know about the Thucydides trap.
And here’s that Chinese rap video Jenn mentioned.
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5/14/2020 • 45 minutes, 37 seconds
Worst. Invasion. Ever.
Zack, Jenn, and Alex discuss the bonkers story of a botched invasion attempt of Venezuela, reportedly led by a group of US-based mercenaries. They explain the truly bizarre backstory of the head merc, former Green Beret Jordan Goudreau; discuss how a slapdash plan to topple President Nicolás Maduro reportedly came together in partial coordination with the Venezuelan opposition; and zoom out to look at what this fiasco says about Venezuelan politics and the role of private military contractors in world affairs. There is, of course, a lengthy discussion of Machiavelli.
References:
There are a lot of good reports on what happened, but this one by the Washington Post is comprehensive and easy to understand.
Here’s the video of Jordan Goudreau announcing the raid.
Now you can dig around Silvercorp USA’s Instagram page just like Jenn.
This story from the Sun-Sentinel details Goudreau’s Puerto Rico trip to make money.
Here’s a tweet featuring images of the IDs of the two captured Americans.
The New York Post has a video of the moment the mercenaries were detained.
New York magazine details some of the sillier moments.
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5/7/2020 • 42 minutes, 43 seconds
Otherworldly
The Worldly team takes a break from the coronavirus doom and gloom to talk about some other big news: the Pentagon’s confirmation this week that it has, in fact, filmed at least three instances of unidentified flying objects (UFOs). They break down the footage, debate what the videos might actually show, talk about the Cold War history of US government investigations into UFOs, and explore how UFOs play into international relations and deeper concepts about religion and humanity. There’s also a surprise guest appearance at the very end! Oh, and LOTS of X-Files jokes.
References:
It’s true: The Pentagon officially released three videos showing three aerial objects it could not explain.
Alex has two stories on Area 51.
Popular Mechanics has a smart longread on the Pentagon’s secret UFO program.
Here’s a video debunking the claim that images in the Pentagon’s release show alien spacecraft.
Jenn noted all the now-declassified history of the US government’s digging into UFOs. Here’s stuff from the CIA, the FBI, the NSA, and the 1968 Condon Report.
Check out renowned international relations theorist Alexander Wendt’s UFO’s paper.
Zack mentioned an article in the Conversation about why UFOs deserve scientific study.
Byrd recommends this book about our “alien oceans.”
Here’s Byrd’s conversation with the Vatican’s chief astronomer.
Vox’s interview with a religion scholar on UFOs is worth your time.
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4/30/2020 • 37 minutes, 51 seconds
Two continents, one coronavirus time bomb
Zack, Jenn, and Alex talk about the coronavirus situation in sub-Saharan Africa and South America, two regions that have so far been mostly spared the worst of the virus. They explain why experts say there could soon be major outbreaks on both continents, and discuss the structural reasons why the social distancing policies that have helped slow the spread of the disease in Asia, Europe, and the US may not be feasible in Africa and South America.
References:
Alex has stories on how the coronavirus will affect sub-Saharan Africa and South America.
It’s worth understanding the crisis in Guayaquil, Ecuador.
Richer countries are outbidding poorer ones on resources to combat the coronavirus, the New York Times reports.
Politico notes that African countries want debt relief so they can focus on public health programs.
The Guardian has an important story on the tough choices facing poor families in Latin America.
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4/23/2020 • 39 minutes, 34 seconds
W.H.O. is to blame?
Zack, Jenn, and Alex talk about Trump’s plan to freeze US funding for the World Health Organization (WHO), ostensibly in retaliation for its failures in the early days of the coronavirus outbreak. The team discusses the very real problems with the organization’s response and why cutting global health funding during a pandemic is both dangerous and geopolitically shortsighted.
References:
Vox has a story explaining how Trump’s poor coronavirus response isn’t the WHO’s fault.
Here’s that disastrous WHO tweet Zack cited.
Vox also has a piece on how China obfuscated early information on the coronavirus outbreak.
Time has a story on what critics are saying about Trump’s WHO decision.
In February, the Council on Foreign Relations had a blog post on the WHO’s missteps.
The New York Times explains why Trump’s WHO play is just a way to shift blame.
Here’s the clip of the WHO official hanging up on a reporter after questions about Taiwan.
Vox’s explainer on the coronavirus has a lot of important information about the pandemic.
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4/16/2020 • 35 minutes, 50 seconds
No one has the coronavirus answer
The Worldly team looks at efforts at reopening in East Asia, including Wuhan, China, and argues that the early data suggests this might be premature — that Singapore and Hong Kong are experiencing a rough second wave of coronavirus infections, indicating that social distancing didn’t end the disease but merely put its spread on pause. They then take a look at two countries that were slow to impose restrictions in the first place — Sweden and Japan — where the situations are now looking grim.
References:
The New York Times has a great piece about the reopening of Wuhan.
CNN explains how there might be a second wave of coronavirus cases in Hong Kong.
Alex has a piece for Vox on Sweden’s risky coronavirus strategy.
The New York Times asks if it’s too late for Japan to declare a state of emergency.
Here’s the Guardian article Zack mentioned.
Vox’s explainer on the coronavirus has a lot of important information about the pandemic.
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4/9/2020 • 36 minutes, 4 seconds
A coronavirus “coup” in Hungary
Zack, Jenn, and Alex explain how coronavirus is causing a global crisis for democracy — starting with Hungary, where Prime Minister Viktor Orbán assumed dictatorial powers thanks to a legislature controlled by his party, effectively suspending democracy for an indefinite period of time. They explain the background necessary to understand what happened in Hungary and the implications for the country and Europe — and, then, in the second half, zoom out to talk about several other countries facing rising authoritarianism in a Covid-19 world, and why a pandemic is so dangerous for democracy in general.
References:
Zack has a phenomenal long read on how democracy died in Hungary
Zack also wrote about how authoritarian states aren’t better at dealing with coronavirus
Here’s the New York Times piece we referenced in the second half
Al-Monitor notes how Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is using coronavirus to subvert democracy in Israel
Glenn Greenwald’s comments saying digital surveillance could be “warranted” because of the coronavirus threat are in this BuzzFeed News story
Politico reported on the emergency powers the Department of Justice sought during the coronavirus crisis
Wired has a great piece on post-9/11 surveillance in the US
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4/2/2020 • 38 minutes, 42 seconds
The other global coronavirus epidemic: Denial
Zack, Jenn, and Alex discuss a striking pattern in countries around the world — their leadership’s denial about the threat posed by coronavirus. They show how denial helped the disease spread out of China and contributed to serious outbreaks in places like Iran and the United States, and note that — despite everything that happened — denial is still happening in places like Mexico and Brazil. They conclude by trying to explain why, in such different countries with such different political systems, denial seems to remain a huge problem.
References:
Vox has stories on Brazil, Spain, Italy, Mexico, and India, and many more are coming — so stay tuned.
Here’s the Reuters article Jenn cited on the show about Japan.
Iranian leaders prioritized politics over health.
Saudi Arabia announced its second death from coronavirus so far.
The Post piece comparing the United States and Brazil that Zack mentioned.
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3/26/2020 • 45 minutes, 43 seconds
The US-China coronavirus blame game
Zack, Jenn, and Alex discuss Trump’s offensive insistence on calling the coronavirus the “Chinese virus” — why it’s both an attempt to deflect domestic political blame and part of a much broader geopolitical war with the Chinese government over who should be held responsible for the pandemic. They then run through the competition for global leadership between Washington and Beijing during the crisis — and explain why China, perhaps implausibly, may actually be winning.
References:
Make sure to follow Vox’s coronavirus reading guide.
Our colleague Jen Kirby wrote a great story on how Italy is dealing with the coronavirus.
Our other colleague Dylan Scott wrote on why the term we discuss is racist.
Check out Vox’s video about why diseases keep popping up in China.
Here’s the Washington Post article Zack mentioned about how “the system” isn’t working this time.
And here’s Alex’s piece on the US-China trade war that Jenn mentioned.
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3/19/2020 • 41 minutes, 11 seconds
Every country for itself
Zack, Jenn, and Alex record an episode on coronavirus from their respective homes, under self-isolation. They talk about the politics of Trump’s ban on European travel to the US and explore why the European Union seems to be neglecting to help Italy in its time of need. They also explain how the virus has led to a massive drop in oil prices — and why, at this particular time, this could seriously destabilize political systems around the world.
References:
Vox’s Jen Kirby wrote a story on Trump’s Europe travel ban.
Alex wrote about the Saudi-Russia oil price war.
Italy criticized the EU for its slow response to help it deal with coronavirus.
You can read about German Chancellor Angela Merkel’s speech here.
Some Americans are paying up to $20,000 for a return flight from Europe.
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3/12/2020 • 36 minutes, 42 seconds
Trump and the Taliban make a deal
Zack, Jenn, and Alex talk about the historic US-Taliban peace agreement that was just signed as a first step toward ending the war in Afghanistan. They discuss the terms of the deal, the serious obstacles that remain to actually achieving peace in the country, and why, even if it is shaky and possibly already unraveling, the deal is still a really big achievement. Zack gets serious about the costs of war, Jenn geeks out on terrorism (again), and Alex talks about texting with the Taliban.
References:
You can read the text of the peace agreement here.
Here’s an Afghan official saying the US is negotiating the terms of its “surrender.”
This is a really great analysis of some of the major flaws in the peace agreement.
Here’s the video of Gen. Mark Milley explaining that the peace agreement calls for a reduction in violence, not zero violence.
We mentioned that the Taliban controls a village on the outskirts of Kabul. Here’s a great piece about that village and what it tells us about the US failure in Afghanistan.
Here’s the photo of Secretary of State Mike Pompeo shaking hands with the top Taliban negotiator at the deal’s signing ceremony.
President Donald Trump said he had a “good conversation” on the phone with the Taliban’s top political leader.
Alex mentioned a piece from the Council on Foreign Relations about the peace deal.
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3/5/2020 • 43 minutes, 2 seconds
One of the worst crises of Syria’s civil war
Zack, Jenn, and Alex talk about perhaps the single worst humanitarian crisis in Syria’s civil war — the ongoing situation in Idlib, where 3 million people are trapped in a province under assault by Bashar al-Assad and his allies. They explain how we got to this point, why the situation is so dangerous, and what could happen next.
References:
Our colleague Jen Kirby wrote a great explainer on the conflict in Idlib.
Jen mentioned the book Assad, or We Burn the Country, which you can find here.
Alex reported on Assad’s “siege, starve, and surrender” strategy as his forces overtook Eastern Ghouta.
Turkey does want to send Syrian refugees to a “safe zone” in northern Syria.
Turkey invaded northern Syria to fight US-allied Kurds near its border.
Charity Navigator has a guide on the best places to donate support to people in Syria.
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2/27/2020 • 44 minutes, 2 seconds
The debate didn’t cover foreign policy. So we did.
Zack, Jenn, and Alex break down the 2020 Democratic field’s positions on foreign policy — which were weirdly under-discussed in the most recent debate. They set up a spectrum, with Bloomberg on the (far) right flank and Bernie on the left, situate the other candidates along this line, and discuss the things that distinguish each candidate on the issues. Zack comes out as a free trader, Jenn heaps love on Biden’s detailed foreign policy answers, and Alex gets feisty.
References:
Alex wrote about the foreign policy splits among the frontrunners, as well as Buttigieg dodging questions.
Here are the Council on Foreign Relations and New York Times foreign policy surveys.
Alex conducted foreign policy interviews with Tom Steyer and Julián Castro.
Biden has some explaining to do on his Iraq War stance, as does Bloomberg.
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2/20/2020 • 46 minutes, 7 seconds
Could coronavirus collapse Chinese communism?
Zack and Alex talk about the politics of the coronavirus outbreak in China — why the Chinese government botched the initial response, why Chinese citizens are so angry about it, and the reasons why the problems with this response are inherent to the current Chinese governance model. They then debate the claim from many analysts that this is the most serious crisis for China’s regime since the 1989 Tiananmen Square uprising — and the (low) probability that this could trigger another revolution-minded uprising.
References:
Our colleague Julia Belluz has you covered on the coronavirus. Read her work here, here, and here.
Read the nice things Chinese people have said about the late Li Wenliang after his death.
Here’s the full clip of Bill Bishop speaking on coronavirus’ impact on China.
Zack read an academic paper on the show on “symbolic legitimacy” and China.
This piece in the Guardian titled “If China valued free speech, there would be no coronavirus crisis” is worth your time.
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2/13/2020 • 42 minutes, 27 seconds
Mini. Nuclear. Weapons.
Zack, Jenn, and Alex discuss the Trump administration’s decision to put a mini nuclear weapon on a US submarine for the first time. They explain what a mini-nuke actually is, the reasons for this decision, the cases for and against doing it, and how to think about the future of nuclear weapons policy in a world of renewed great power politics and weakening arms control agreements. Zack confesses his fascination with pre-modern warfare, Jenn coins a Ringo Starr theory of nuclear policy, and Alex describes himself as an “end of the world enthusiast.”
References:
This is a really great summary of the debate on putting mini-nukes on submarines.
Here’s a link to the Trump administration’s Nuclear Posture Review.
Zack talked about Vipin Narang’s War on the Rocks piece on the discrimination problem when using low-yield nukes.
Alex discussed Russia’s “escalate to de-escalate” strategy.
Jenn mentioned the idea of a “nuclear taboo” and also referenced the book Thinking about the Unthinkable.
Here’s a link to the “mineshaft gap” scene in Dr. Strangelove.
Alex broke the story about the Trump administration’s new landmine policy, and also wrote a great (and terrifying) feature on how nuclear war could kill us all.
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2/6/2020 • 44 minutes, 42 seconds
The dark logic of Trump’s Israel-Palestine “peace plan”
Zack, Jenn, and Alex are joined by the Middle East Institute’s Khaled Elgindy to discuss the Trump administration’s new Israel-Palestine peace plan. They break down what’s actually in the proposal, the ways in which its provisions are profoundly skewed toward the Israeli side, and how it could change the reality for both sides even if its provisions are never implemented.
References:
Here’s a link to our special guest Khaled Elgindy’s excellent book Blind Spot: America and the Palestinians, from Balfour to Trump.
You can read Alex’s explainer on the peace plan and his Q&A on what the Palestinians are likely to do now.
Here’s Zack’s piece arguing the peace deal is a con.
This is the Washington Post op-ed Zack read from in the episode.
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Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias), Senior correspondent, Vox
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1/30/2020 • 45 minutes, 21 seconds
Hacking Jeff Bezos
Zack and Alex are joined by Weeds cohost Matt Yglesias to talk about the Saudi crown prince’s seemingly brazen hack of Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos — by personally texting him a video that cybersecurity experts think contained advanced spyware. They explain the evidence that the Saudis are responsible (despite their denials), try to explore why Mohammed bin Salman would do something so obviously inflammatory, and suss out the implications for the future of the US-Saudi alliance.
References:
Here’s the UN report on the Bezos hack and FTI Consulting’s technical analysis of Bezos’s phone.
Vox’s Sara Morrison notes that the Bezos hack could happen to anyone.
Vox’s Jen Kirby also wrote up the Bezos news when it broke.
Hosts:
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1/23/2020 • 43 minutes, 33 seconds
The entire Russian government just resigned
Zack, Jenn, and Alex talk about the recent resignation of Russia’s entire government — yes, you read that right. Guest Andrea Kendall-Taylor, a Russia expert at the Center for a New American Security, helps the team get a hold on what Putin’s play is: how he’s reorganizing the government to prepare for his own departure from the presidency, and what this means in the big picture for Russia’s future. They also talk about one of Zack’s weird dreams and the proper way to cook brussels sprouts.
References:
Check out our special guest Andrea Kendall-Taylor’s podcast “Brussels Sprouts,” her piece for Foreign Affairs titled “The New Dictators,” and her book “Democracies and Authoritarian Regimes.”
Jen Kirby’s Vox writeup on the Russia shake-up is here.
Reid Standish, the Moscow-based reporter Alex mentioned, wrote a great piece on Putin’s decision for Foreign Policy (and quotes Andrea).
Zack wrote a piece in 2018 about the problems personalist authoritarian regimes have, linking it to Putin’s election that year.
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1/16/2020 • 43 minutes, 26 seconds
Did Trump get Iran right? (ft. Sen. Tom Udall)
Zack, Jenn, and Alex break down the US killing of Qassem Suleimani — why it happened, what the Iranian response means, and what the long term consequences might be. Zack and Jenn get into a lengthy debate over whether killing Suleimani was wise, and Alex gets a behind-the-scenes look at the debate over reining in Trump’s Iran war powers in a Worldly exclusive interview with Sen. Tom Udall (D-NM).
References:
Here’s Alex’s piece with inside details on the disastrous Iran briefings for the House and Senate.
Jenn and Zack offered the pro and con arguments for killing Qassem Soleimani. Vox has two interviews with experts making the cases for and against.
Both Zack and Alex felt Trump’s Iran speech from the White House could’ve been better.
And here’s Sen. Tom Udall announcing his support for the War Powers Resolution as well as his own Prevention of Unconstitutional War with Iran Act of 2019.
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1/9/2020 • 51 minutes, 23 seconds
A very Worldly guide to 2019 — and 2020
Zack, Jenn, and Alex do a 2019 year in review — each one of them making a choice for biggest US foreign policy story of 2019, while the whole team debates just how important each of these events were. Then, after the break, they do the same for 2020 — making predictions about what the big stories will be.
References:
Here’s Alex’s great piece on how the Baghdadi raid went down:
Alex interviewed Venezuelan opposition leader Juan Guaidó about his failed push to overthrow Nicolás Maduro
Vox's Umair Irfan explained Trump’s formal withdrawal from the Paris climate accords
Here’s a phenomenal feature on what Afghans think about US-Taliban peace talks and the possible withdrawal of US troops
Zeeshan Aleem explained the latest in the US-China trade war for Vox
Hosts:
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12/19/2019 • 46 minutes, 5 seconds
India's assault on Muslim rights — and democracy
Zack and Alex are joined by Vox reporter Sigal Samuel to talk about two recent measures in India that, when combined, amount to a plan for stripping citizenship from hundreds of thousands of Muslims. They explain what the laws actually do, the scary Hindu supremacist ideology motivating Prime Minister Narendra Modi, and the impact Modi’s premiership is having on Indian democracy. They then zoom out to put India in global context, comparing democratic backsliding there to what we’re seeing in the West and its persecution of Muslims to what you’ve seen in two other nearby countries (China and Myanmar).
References:
Sigal’s piece on the India laws is here.
Read Dexter Filkins’ brilliant longread on India under Modi in the New Yorker.
Zack’s piece on Hungary’s democratic backsliding is really worth your time.
If you need a quick brush-up on the Kashmir crisis, Alex explains it for you in under 600 words.
Netflix’s Hasan Minhaj talked about being barred from the “Howdy Modi” event, even though he was celebrated at it.
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Sigal Samuel (@SigalSamuel), staff writer, Vox
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12/12/2019 • 41 minutes, 29 seconds
That awkward NATO moment
Zack, Jenn, and Alex talk about the viral video of world leaders making fun of Trump at the NATO summit — explaining how Trump’s antics threatened the meeting and, somewhat more surprisingly, why they didn’t derail it. They then zoom out to talk about NATO’s more fundamental existential crisis — whether it makes sense to be protecting post-Communist European states against Russia — and the problems facing the alliance down the line. Jenn talks about her recent visit to Poland and how NATO looks on the ground there, Zack confesses his love for khachapouri, and Alex falsely claims that he hates to bring up Spain.
References:
You can read about the “mocking Trump” video on Vox here.
NATO’s website explains it policy of enlargement.
Zack’s piece on Hungary’s democratic backsliding is really worth your time.
Zack also has a piece on how Trump is killing US alliances.
Hosts:
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12/5/2019 • 38 minutes, 37 seconds
Today, Explained: Let's talk about that party in Spain
Spain's far-right party just won more than 50 seats in its parliament, reminding some of the country's fascist past. Yes, the party is called "VOX".
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11/28/2019 • 26 minutes, 27 seconds
2020 candidate Michael Bennet explains why Facebook is a national security threat
It’s a very special Worldly today, as Zack hosts Sen. Michael Bennet — the first Democratic presidential candidate to appear on Worldly. Their conversation ranges from big picture conversations about the global threat to liberal democracy to policy details on America’s troubled alliances with Israel and Saudi Arabia to why Sen. Bennet thinks Facebook should be understood as a national security threat.
Hosts:
Zack Beauchamp (@zackbeauchamp), senior correspondent, Vox
References:
Here’s Sen. Michael Bennet’s presidential campaign website.
Watch Bennet’s speech at the Council on Foreign Relations this week.
Bennet spoke about his Facebook concerns on a previous Vox podcast.
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11/21/2019 • 37 minutes, 50 seconds
Coup in Bolivia?
Jenn, Alex, and special guests Ivan Rebolledo and Zeeshan Aleem talk about whether there was a coup in Bolivia or not. While the military asked President Evo Morales to step down, he had taken steps to maintain power after his term in office ended. It's a dangerous moment for the country, and it speaks volumes about new political dynamics sweeping Latin America.
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11/14/2019 • 37 minutes, 58 seconds
Introducing Reset
Apple removed an app that had been used by pro-democracy protestors in Hong Kong. Turns out that has broad implications for democracy globally. If you enjoyed this episode, subscribe to Reset for free on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Overcast, Pocket Casts, or your favorite podcast app to get new episodes every week.
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11/12/2019 • 21 minutes, 49 seconds
Arab Spring 2.0?
Zack, Jenn, and Alex talk about the massive protests in Iraq and what connection, if any, they might have with similar uprisings in Lebanon and Egypt. While there are major differences, they all share one thing in common: people just want their own functioning government.
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11/7/2019 • 42 minutes
Take the oil
Zack, Jenn, and Alex talk about Trump’s new Syria policy — sending US troops to protect oil fields and potentially selling the oil to the highest bidder. It’s a really bad idea!
Hosts:
Zack Beauchamp (@zackbeauchamp), senior correspondent, Vox
Jennifer Williams (@jenn_ruth), senior foreign editor, Vox
Alex Ward (@AlexWardVox), national security reporter, Vox
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10/31/2019 • 40 minutes, 48 seconds
Brexit, forever?
Zack and Alex are joined by Vox Brexit expert Jen Kirby to talk the latest on what’s going on in London. Due to some parliamentary “shenanigans” (Jen’s word choice), Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s drive to crash out of the EU by October 31 looks like it’s going to fail. The Worldly team breaks down exactly what happened and what could happen next — ranging from long-lasting limbo to another fateful election. Alex analogizes Brexit to a divorce, and Zack gives a heartfelt goodbye to their producer Byrd Pinkerton — who makes a little cameo at the end!
Links to resources discussed:
What to know about Boris’s new Brexit deal
Parliamentary shenanigans, part 1 and part 2
The EU’s expected Brexit extension decision
On Boris Johnson’s decent election outlook -- and Jeremy Corbyn’s dismal one
Zack referenced a tweet by Nick Cohen
Hosts:
Zack Beauchamp (@zackbeauchamp), senior correspondent, Vox
Alex Ward (@AlexWardVox), national security reporter, Vox
Jen Kirby (@j_kirby1), foreign and national security reporter,, Vox
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10/24/2019 • 21 minutes, 40 seconds
The four words that will decide impeachment
This was the week of confessions. Acting White House Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney admitted to a Trump administration quid quo pro with Ukraine, with cameras rolling. EU Ambassador Gordon Sondland confirmed that President Trump made Rudy Giuliani the hinge of America’s Ukraine policy. And then the administration announced that the location for the upcoming G7 summit: Trump’s own resort in Doral, Florida. We break down the three stories that mattered most in impeachment this week.
And then we dig into the four words that will shape the entire impeachment fight: “High Crimes and Misdemeanors.” What did they mean when they were added to the Constitution? How have they been interpreted through American history? And do Trump’s acts qualify?
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References:
"Indispensable Remedy: The Broad Scope of the Constitution’s Impeachment Power" by Gene Healy
"The case for normalizing impeachment" by Ezra Klein
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10/19/2019 • 53 minutes, 37 seconds
Sen. Chris Murphy on why America's Syria failure goes beyond Trump
Worldly continues its series on progressive foreign policy with one of its leading proponents, Sen. Chris Murphy (D-CT). A member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Murphy has strongly criticized the way both Republicans and Democrats have conducted world affairs for decades and proposes a completely new path. In his chat with Alex, Murphy also blasts Trump's Syria policy, but he notes that America's failures there extend far beyond the president himself. Oh, and a 1988 Ford Taurus comes up.
Links to resources discussed:
A piece that provides more background on the Syrian situation
Senator Murphy’s Atlantic article
Senator Murphy speaking at CFR
Guest:
US Senator Chris Murphy (@ChrisMurphyCT)
Host:
Alex Ward (@AlexWardVox), national security reporter, Vox
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10/17/2019 • 28 minutes, 41 seconds
Rep. Ro Khanna’s vision for a new, “progressive” foreign policy
Rep. Ro Khanna (D-CA), one of the leading minds advocating for a radical rethinking of US foreign policy, sits down with Jenn for a conversation about what a “progressive” foreign policy would look like and how it would actually be applied in tough conflicts from Yemen to Iran to China.
Links to resources discussed:
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Rep. Khanna referenced
Alexis De Tocqueville’s Democracy in America Francis Fukuyama’s The End of History?John Quincy Adams’ Warning Against the Search for “Monsters to Destroy”Adam Smith’s Theory of Moral Sentiments And the writings of Katrina vanden Heuvel
Here are two pieces that provide more background on Yemen
More on Kissinger and realpolitik
The NYT op-ed by Masuda Sultan that Khanna referenced
Guest:
US Congressman Ro Khanna (@RepRoKhanna), representing Silicon Valley's CA17
Host:Jennifer Williams (@jenn_ruth), senior foreign editor, Vox
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10/10/2019 • 28 minutes, 58 seconds
How Italy, Australia, and Britain got dragged into the Ukraine scandal
Zack, Jenn, and Alex break down the latest news in the Trump-Ukraine scandal — the emergence of related allegations about inappropriate administration requests to the governments of Britain, Italy, and Australia. They explain what happened in each case, look at the bizarre conspiracy theories behind all of this, and draw out the implications of a world in which US foreign policy is being increasingly enlisted in both the pursuit of falsehoods and the president’s reelection campaign.
Links to resources discussed:
If you want to listen to our last episode on the Trump-Ukraine scandal as a refresher, please do so.
We mentioned Alex’s two pieces: one on Pompeo and another on how these four countries got embroiled in Trump’s conspiracy mess
Zack wrote about how Trump’s Ukraine scandal is part of the president’s attack on democracy
Here’s the Politico piece on a potential scandal whereby even a foreign government buys hotel rooms at Trump properties but has no one stay in them
Trump is hoping his more politically allied leaders abroad will help him in the conspiracy investigations
Here’s the Times of London piece about Trump and Boris Johnson discussing inquiries into the Mueller probe
Zack mentioned George Conway’s piece in the Atlantic on why Trump is “unfit for office”
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10/3/2019 • 31 minutes, 58 seconds
The whistleblower complaint: a close read
Zack, Jenn, and Alex dive into the just-released whistleblower report about Trump’s call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. They explain what exactly it alleges about Trump and his administration — and the wider coverup operation it reveals. Bottom line? It sure looks like the president deliberately abused his powers of office for political gain — and then the White House engaged in a systematic, corrupt effort to hide his misconduct from the world.
Links to resources discussed:
The full text of the whistleblower complaint, with some context
More background on the Ukraine scandal
We read some key passages from the complaint that Alex highlighted on Twitter, namely this one, this one, this one, and this one.
Zack’s close read of the “transcript”
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9/26/2019 • 21 minutes, 12 seconds
War for Oil
Zack and Jenn are joined by Matt Yglesias to talk about the worrying fallout of an attack on Saudi oil facilities this weekend. The United States has blamed Iran for the attack, and President Trump tweeted that America is “locked and loaded” to retaliate — but so far, there hasn’t been a military response. The Worldly team talks through the debate over what the US should do, what Trump might be thinking, and the very real chance that escalation could trigger a recession. Jenn busts out some Arabic, Matt comes up with a new CSI spinoff, and Zack brings it back to the original Gulf War.
Links to resources discussed:
Jen Kirby’s explainer on the Saudi Arabia oil attacks.
President Trump’s “locked and loaded” tweet
Matt’s piece, “Trump’s weird ideas on the US-Saudi relationship, sort of explained.” He mentions the Washington Post article about Saudi visits to Trump hotels.
The team discussed Lindsey Graham’s tweets about the situation.
Jenn mentioned that Martin Indyk at Brookings also weighed in.
There are broader reasons to be concerned about a recession, but also reasons tied to these events in Saudi Arabia.
Politifact added nuance to the idea that the US is energy independent.
Matt shouted out some oil price graphs. You can find them here.
It’s been a busy week for foreign news! Zack mentioned articles about a promise made to a foreign leader, Justin Trudeau’s brownface scandal, and Trump’s pick for national security adviser. He also mentioned Today, Explained’s episode about the Israeli election.
Hosts:Jennifer Williams (@jenn_ruth), Senior Foreign Editor, VoxZack Beauchamp (@zackbeauchamp), Senior Correspondent, VoxMatt Yglesias (@mattyglesias), Senior Correspondent, Vox
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9/19/2019 • 26 minutes, 42 seconds
Why the US can’t win in Afghanistan
Zack and Alex are joined by Ben Pauker, Vox’s managing editor for news and a longtime foreign correspondent, to talk about the war in Afghanistan — and why the US can’t seem to win it. They discuss the reasons that Afghanistan is fertile ground for an insurgency, why the Taliban has become a particularly effective bunch of militants, and why the US’ ultimate goal — building up an Afghan government and military that can sure the country in its absence — is so hard to achieve. Come for the policy pessimism, stay for Zack’s oblique reference to a dril tweet.
Read this interview Alex did with warfare expert Dominic Tierney on why the US has trouble winning wars.
The New York Times has a good history (with pictures!) of why many have tried and failed to win in Afghanistan.
Here’s how the US “won” in Iraq
Alex wrote about how the Taliban has very slightly moderated its stances towards women and minorities in recent years.
Yes, a Taliban fighter really did say “You have the watches. We have the time.”
Here’s what you need to know about the US-backed president of Afghanistan, Hamid Karzai
A US government report from this August found that the size of the Afghan army fell by 42,000 soldiers — mostly they had been paying 42,000 people who don’t actually exist.
Zack mentioned that the US even put treadmills in bases
Hosts:
Zack Beauchamp (@zackbeauchamp), Senior Correspondent, Vox
Alex Ward (@AlexWardVox), National security reporter, Vox
Guest:
Ben Paulker (@benpaulker), Managing Editor, Vox
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9/12/2019 • 23 minutes, 8 seconds
The case for foreign policy restraint
In this special crossover episode, Weeds host Matt Yglesias talks to Emma Ashford, Research Fellow in Defense and Foreign Policy at the Cato Institute. It's a wide ranging discussion covering everything from China to the middle east, our relationship with Russia since the cold war, and the defense budget. They also explore the difference between restraint and realism, and whether or not Trump is an isolationist.
Guest Host:
Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias)
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Emma Ashford (@emmamashford)
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9/5/2019 • 1 hour, 49 seconds
Boris's Great British Brexit-Off
Zack and Jenn are joined by Vox foreign writer Jen Kirby to talk about UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s decision to “prorogue” Parliament — meaning suspend it for five weeks — during the runup to the October 31st Brexit deadline. They explain how this is an obvious maneuver to prevent Parliament from blocking a no-deal Brexit, and then break down what Parliament could do in response, and how all of this represents a serious challenge for British democracy.
Here’s Jen Kirby’s explainer on the whole proroguing controversy.
We mentioned that the UK government’s own analyses suggest a no-deal Brexit would be a disaster for the UK.
And here’s a link to our past episode “The looming Brexit catastrophe” on what a no-deal Brexit could mean for Britain.
The UK House of Commons Library has a good summary of how proroguing normally works.
Here’s more on how the opposition Labour Party was planning to thwart Johnson before all this happened.
Here’s a member of Johnson’s Conservative Party, Dominic Grieve, calling Johnson’s move "tantamount to a coup against Parliament."
We referenced this BuzzFeed article about possible ideas Johnson has floated to try to force Brexit through.
Business Insider has a good piece explaining the debate about how involved the queen should get in all this.
Hosts:Jennifer Williams (@jenn_ruth), Senior Foreign Editor, VoxZack Beauchamp (@zackbeauchamp), Senior Correspondent, VoxAlex Ward (@AlexWardVox), National security reporter, Vox
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8/29/2019 • 19 minutes, 30 seconds
The Amazon is on fire
In Jenn’s and Alex’s absence, Zack is joined by Umair Irfan, a climate change reporter at Vox, to talk about the wildfires raging in Siberia, Greenland, and — most worryingly — the Amazon rainforest. They explain why preserving the health of the massive rainforest is vital to addressing climate change, and how the policies of Brazil’s right-wing populist president, Jair Bolsonaro, have helped cause the wildfires and jeopardized the Amazon rainforest’s very survival. Umair tells stories from his recent visit to Brazil, while Zack recalls a sweaty walk to work.
Links!
Here’s Umair’s piece on all the fires raging around the world right now.
Vox’s Jen Kirby explained Bolsonaro 101.
Some background on Bolsonaro’s environmental policy. It’s very bad!
Bolsonaro has gone after indigenous rights since literally the first day of his presidency.
São Paulo’s drought problem has been really serious.
The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s big new report on land use and climate change.
Information on one of several international initiatives to protect the Amazon.
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8/22/2019 • 23 minutes, 59 seconds
INF'd
Zack, Jenn, and Alex discuss the recently deceased Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces treaty — a Cold War-era agreement that was supposed to stop the US and Russia from putting destabilizing missiles too close to each other. They explain where the treaty came from, why it mattered, and why Trump pulled out of it — and cap it off with a discussion of whether the treaty’s demise was a good thing or not. Zack does his best (worst?) Yaakov Smirnoff impression, Jenn breaks down the song “99 Red Balloons” at length, and Alex laughs at Mikhail Gorbachev’s jokes.
Alex’s recent INF treaty explainer
US President Reagan and Soviet leader Gorbachev sign the INF in 1987
Here’s the full text of the treaty if you want to read it yourself.
The Worldly hosts prefer this cover of “99 Red Balloons” by Goldfinger, but their producer Byrd maintains that the Nena version is best. Editorial director Liz Nelson, meanwhile, recommends this version from the punk band 7 Seconds.
Zack mentioned that there were several times we came close to nuclear war thanks to misinterpretations or accidents. If you want to know even more, we recommend reading the chilling book Command and Control: Nuclear Weapons, the Damascus Accident, and the Illusion of Safety.
Here’s more background on the Obama administration’s policy toward the INF treaty and Russia’s apparent violation of it. And here’s then-US Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats in November 2018 laying out the evidence the intelligence community has showing that Russia violated the terms of the treaty.
Oh, and here’s Russia’s government denying it did so, and instead accusing the US of having violated the treaty.
Also, more on the “missile gap”
Here is a smart op-ed laying out the case for pulling out of the treaty and building more of these missiles, and here’s a smart op-ed laying out the case against pulling out of the treaty.
Here’s some more background on National Security Adviser John Bolton’s well-known loathing of arms control agreements.
And we mentioned that China recently warned the US that it would take unspecified “countermeasures” if the US were to deploy these missiles near China.
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8/15/2019 • 22 minutes, 5 seconds
India’s power grab in Kashmir
Zack, Jenn, and Alex talk about India’s decision to revoke Article 370 of its constitution, the provision giving special status to the majority-Muslim state of Jammu and Kashmir, a decision that has sparked a political crisis with Pakistan. The Worldly team explains why Kashmiri autonomy is so sensitive, the ideological reasons why Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi chose to do something so destabilizing and provocative, and what this could mean for the always-volatile India-Pakistan relationship.
Alex has an explainer about India’s Kashmir power grab.
The New Yorker has a good piece on the India-Pakistan partition.
Vox also has an explainer on the violence between Pakistan and India earlier this year.
A part of Article 370 of India’s constitution reads: “[T]he President may, by public notification, declare that this article shall cease to be operative or shall be operative only with such exceptions and modifications and from such date as he may specify.”
India’s home minister said Modi’s government would give Jammu and Kashmir its statehood back once normalcy returned to the area, but also that Modi’s government still lays claim to Pakistan’s part of Kashmir.
People, including Pakistan’s prime minister, are afraid there will be ethnic cleansing.
Pakistan’s army chief said his nation would “go to any extent” to protect Kashmir’s residents, and Imran Khan, the prime minister, warned that a fight could break out.
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8/8/2019 • 21 minutes, 9 seconds
Are the US and Turkey heading for a divorce?
Zack, Jenn, and Alex break down the tension between the US and one of its major NATO allies, Turkey. The most recent fight is over Turkey’s purchase of a Russian missile system, but that’s emblematic of a much deeper rift relating to the Turkish government’s drift towards authoritarianism and the two ally’s diametrically opposed policies in Syria. They also then venture some guesses about whether this could get better — but since this is Worldly, you probably know where our hosts are going to come down on that.
Links!
Alex explains the background on the S-400 missile situation.
Turkey’s bid to join NATO was approved in 1951 (though it was technically effective in 1952).
Here’s a diplomatic cable from 1964 on how the Johnson administration’s handling of Cyprus shaped the US-Turkey relationship (wasn’t good!)
Alex’s piece also has a good short explanation on Gulf War tensions between the US and Turkey.
Here’s a Zack piece on the complicated US-Turkey-Kurdish tensions in Syria.
And another Zack piece on Turkey’s conflict with Kurdish separatists inside its borders.
Pastor Andrew Brunson, explained.
And here’s some solid background on how Turkey and Russia are growing closer.
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8/1/2019 • 25 minutes, 41 seconds
Boris and Brexit
Zack and Jenn are joined by Jen Kirby, Vox’s chief Brexit correspondent, to discuss the UK’s new prime minister: Boris Johnson. They trace his rise to power, his political persona that is both funny and troubling, and his distinct lack of political conviction. They also discuss why we should be skeptical that Johnson can make a Brexit deal by October 31, as he’s suggested he would — and what could happen if he doesn’t.
Here’s Boris, explained. And Boris explained, again, just in a lot fewer words.
In the Guardian, Jennifer Rankin and Jim Waterson examine the impact of Johnson’s journalism.
Jenn Williams explains Johnson’s offensive comments.
The Guardian describes the zipline malfunction seen ’round the world.
Jen Kirby writes on how Brexit finally brought Theresa May down.
The future of Brexit under Boris ... maybe.
Boris Johnson says Britain’s can-do spirit can solve Brexit, in the Daily Telegraph.
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7/25/2019 • 23 minutes, 22 seconds
Meet the Space Force
Alex Ward joins The Weeds' Jane Coaston and Matt Yglesias to explain Trump's more-tedious-than-it-sounds plan for military domination of the final frontier.
Recommended reading:
“Trump really, really wants troops in space” by Alex Ward
“Trump wants a ‘Space Force.’ We have many questions.” by Alex Ward
“Trump’s call for a Space Force, explained” by Alex Ward
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7/18/2019 • 46 minutes, 4 seconds
A very special relationship episode
Zack, Jenn, and Alex discuss the saga of Kim Darroch, the recently-resigned UK Ambassador to the US. Some of Darroch’s private cables back home, where he referred to President Trump as “inept” (among other things), were leaked and published in a British tabloid — leading to a sequence of events that led to Darroch’s resignation and reveals quite a lot about Britain’s post-Brexit standing in the world and the US-UK relationship. For elsewhere, they discuss the Women’s World Cup — why some countries are much better than others at women’s soccer and the surprisingly deep socio-political reasons that the US is particularly dominant.
References!
Here’s the Daily Mail’s piece on the leaked cables.
The Atlantic has a good piece on how Boris Johnson effectively sank Kim Darroch’s chances of keeping his job.
This is the “Love Actually” scene Alex talked about.
Yes, a British parliamentarian called Johnson Trump’s poodle in a tweet
WikiLeaks has already released thousands of diplomatic cables
Political science shows more equality for women leads to better soccer teams
The University of Rochester explains Title IX
The US has the best infrastructure to nurture women’s soccer than anywhere in the world
Here’s the Buzzfeed piece Jenn noted about young girls inspired by the US women’s national team
Our sister podcast -- Today, Explained -- did an entire episode on the equal pay issue
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7/11/2019 • 25 minutes, 8 seconds
Under pressure (Live!)
The long-awaited Worldly live episode is here! In a taping at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, Zack, Alex, and Jenn discuss the notion of “maximum pressure” — a phrase coined to describe Trump’s North Korea policy that has turned out to describe the closest thing we have to a Trump doctrine. They discuss what “maximum pressure” is, how effective (or not) it’s been, and which countries Trump has used it on. They also have a great time at the taping — well, Jenn and Zack do, because they make fun of Alex a whole lot.
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7/4/2019 • 29 minutes, 4 seconds
The Democratic (foreign policy) debate
It’s a Democratic debate special! Zack, Jenn, and Alex break down the big foreign policy issue dividing the candidates: whether the liberal international order the United States set up after World War II is working, and what reforms are necessary if it isn’t. They examine the views of four leading candidates — Joe Biden, Pete Buttigieg, Bernie Sanders, and Elizabeth Warren — and analyze a really revealing exchange from Wednesday night’s debate.
Here’s Alex’s piece describing the ideological split among 2020 Democrats.
You can watch Biden’s speech here…
…and Buttigieg’s here…
...and Warren’s here…
...and Sanders’s here.
Zack’s beef with Bernie Sanders’s 2016 positions on trade.
Vox explained the debate’s winners and losers.
The Pentagon released the names of the two deceased soldiers.
Zack has an explainer on Tulsi Gabbard’s fake pacifism.
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6/27/2019 • 23 minutes, 40 seconds
How close are we to war with Iran?
Zack and Alex break down the past few weeks of worrying news about Iran. They discuss (what seem to be) Iranian attacks on oil tankers, Iran announcing that it was thinking about breaking the terms of the nuclear deal, and the US sending more troops to the region. Then they discuss what it all means: just how interested certain parts of the Trump administration are in war with Iran, the ways in which Iran’s actions are playing into their hands, and how similar this situation is to the Bush administration’s march to war with Iraq.
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Alex’s most recent update on the drone attack.
Here’s John Bolton’s original statement on Iran
Alex has an explainer on the entire US-Iran standoff
The Council on Foreign Relations has a detailed explainer on the Strait of Hormuz
See the video and pictures of the oil tanker attacks released by the US military
Both Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA) and German Chancellor Angela Merkel say it looks as though Iran is behind the oil tanker attack
Japan’s government won’t say Iran is responsible, even though a Japanese company owned one of the damaged vessels
This Vox video explains the Iran nuclear deal in three minutes
Here’s Alex again on the US sending 1,000 troops to the Middle East
Yes, John Bolton has called for regime change in Iran
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6/20/2019 • 22 minutes, 10 seconds
The fight to save Hong Kong
Zack, Jenn, and Alex discuss the huge protests in Hong Kong that erupted over a controversial amendment to the city’s extradition law — and why the fight is really about protecting the city’s freedoms from Beijing’s attempts to repress them. They play audio clips recorded and sent to the show by protesters in Hong Kong explaining why they’re demonstrating and what it’s like on the ground, and discuss the big-picture issues surrounding democracy and rights in China. Zack ends the show with a characteristic monologue, Alex makes the obligatory Guns N’ Roses joke, and Jenn declares herself “old.”
Links:
Alex’s explainer has the background on Hong Kong and the recent extradition law change.
Jenn described this video in which protesters rushed to put out tear gas grenades as they rained down on the crowd.
How Hong Kong remembers Tiananmen.
This is a good article on the belief that economic liberalization in China would produce a shift toward democracy — and why that didn’t happen.
The details on Xi Jinping’s historic power grab last year.
A past episode on China’s “concentration camps” for Muslims in Xinjiang province.
The Great Firewall, explained
Vox’s Johnny Harris, who helped us with this show, did an episode of his YouTube show “Borders” on the Hong Kong-mainland divide.
The Worldly live show taping is at 6:30 ET on June 24 at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy! Here’s the registration link.
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6/13/2019 • 19 minutes, 10 seconds
Jamestown: Utopian for Whom?
Nice Try! is a new podcast from Curbed and the Vox Media Podcast Network that explores stories of people who have tried to design a better world, and what happens when those designs don't go according to plan. Season one, Utopian, follows Avery Trufelman on her quest to understand the perpetual search for the perfect place. Enjoy this special preview of the first episode, Jamestown: Utopian for Whom, and subscribe to Nice Try! for free in your favorite podcast app.
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6/12/2019 • 11 minutes, 48 seconds
Bloodshed in Sudan
Jenn and Alex explain how months-long protests to oust a brutal dictator in Sudan, once so hopeful, have fallen victim to a bloody repression campaign. After initial peaceful talks, a government-linked paramilitary group decided to attack demonstrators, killing as many as 100 people and dumping bodies in the Nile River. The worry now is that Sudan is turning into another Arab Spring-like horror story, meaning that another repressive regime may ultimately survive despite the will of the people. Jenn shows off her Middle East expertise, Alex hosts Worldly for the first time, and both hope the Sudanese protesters get justice.
References:
This piece from Vox’s Jen Kirby outlines how the military coup that ousted Bashir happened and why protesters still weren’t satisfied.
And this piece from former Vox intern Salwa Sadek takes a look at the women who have been at the forefront of the protest movement in Sudan.
Here’s more on what we know about the death toll so far and the reports of sexual assault against protesters.
This is a great article about how the Rabaa Massacre in Egypt ended the Arab Spring.
For a good primer on the Arab Spring more generally, check out The Arab Uprisings: What Everyone Needs to Know.
Jenn also mentioned that this week was the 30th anniversary of the Tiananmen Square massacre in China. The New York Times has a great collection of their recent coverage of that event here.
And as promised, here’s the reservation link to our LIVE SHOW! bit.ly/link-worldly
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6/6/2019 • 17 minutes, 15 seconds
European Dis-union
Jenn, Alex, and special guest Jen Kirby (who goes by Kirby in our shows) explain the shocking results of the European parliamentary elections. The world's second-largest exercise in democracy produced big wins for Europe's left-wing Green Party, some gains for far-right politicians, and a collapse of traditional centrist parties. The gang breaks down what these results actually mean for the people of Europe, the European Union, and the rise of fringe parties around the world. The result, it seems, is that extremist parties may be more mainstream now than you think. Jenn shows off her hosting chops, Alex records under a hot blanket, and Kirby drops some sweet, sweet European politics knowledge.
As promised, here’s the reservation link to our LIVE SHOW! bit.ly/link-worldly
Here’s Jen Kirby’s fantastic piece explaining what happened in the elections.
This has a good breakdown of the voter turnout in past elections and how much higher it was this time around.
If you want to know more about the policy positions of European Green parties, you can read all about them here on their website.
We quoted a political scientist who told Germany’s The Local about the Green parties capturing “the zeitgeist.” That’s from this article.
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5/30/2019 • 19 minutes, 7 seconds
Collusion in Austria
Zack, Jenn, and Alex break down how a six-hour video of a far-right party leader drinking in Ibiza brought down Austria’s government. The story involves a fake Russian oligarch’s niece, a far-right party founded by former Nazis, and a plot to subvert the country’s independent media. The Worldly hosts make sense out of this sprawling drama, and explain what it tells us about the broader far-right movement across Europe. Alex tells us what it’s like on the ground in Austria (he’s actually there), Zack practices his German pronunciations, and Jenn manages not to curse for once.
Alex wrote a fantastic explainer on the whole scandal.
Der Spiegel, one of the two media outlets that viewed the secret video, has a great piece laying out everything that was on the tape.
Here’s a selection of clips from the longer conversation, with subtitles.
This feature on Hungary from Zack explains why references to trying to build a media landscape like Viktor Orbán’s are so scary.
Here is the anatomically implausible music video for the Vengaboys song that has become the anti-Strache anthem.
Jenn mentioned this Vox article about the far-right parties in Europe joining forces to win seats in the European parliamentary elections.
The head of Germany’s far-right party AfD said Austria’s scandal was “singular” and had nothing to do with them.
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5/23/2019 • 23 minutes
The art of trade war
Zack, Jenn, and Alex examine Trump’s trade war with China, which appears to be back on after negotiations failed to produce a deal. They run through how we got here, what’s happened so far in terms of escalating tit-for-tat tariffs, and what the costs of economic tensions between the world’s two largest economies are for ordinary Americans, Chinese citizens, and the world. On Elsewhere, they discuss a disturbing story about a Malaysian teenager who died by suicide after polling her Instagram followers on whether she should live or die — and what this says about the problems of managing social media’s dark side worldwide.
Links:
Our colleague Matthew Yglesias has an explainer on Trump’s China trade war.
Some recent research shows the complexity and murkiness of the debate over US job losses from trade with China.
The New York Times has a great piece outlining the various ways China manipulates US companies that want to do business in China, including forcing them to hand over valuable intellectual property.
The Peterson Institute for International Economics has a timeline of the US-China trade war.
Here’s a really good episode of Marketplace from September 2018 that explains why prices on goods don’t go up immediately in a trade war.
The IMF estimated that the trade war may cause a 0.2 percent slowdown in the global economy.
Jessica Chen Weiss explains at the Washington Post how China is rolling out nationalist propaganda over the trade war.
We played a CNN clip of a conversation with a farmer.
A brief description of the Malaysia Instagram story.
A list of international suicide prevention hotlines.
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5/16/2019 • 23 minutes, 24 seconds
Slouching towards an Iran war
Zack, Jenn, and Alex talk about a scary rise in tensions between the US and Iran in the past week — a (possibly inflated) Iranian plot against American troops in the Middle East, and an Iranian announcement of plans to stop abiding by the terms of the nuclear deal. National Security Adviser John Bolton, who has long supported going to war with Iran, appears to be intentionally escalating the situation — and it’s not clear how much of an off-ramp there is. On Elsewhere, they discuss dictatorial Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s move to overturn the results of an election he doesn’t like, and what it says about the new model of authoritarianism in places like Turkey and Hungary.
References!
You can read Bolton’s entire Iran statement here.
Alex has an explainer on the standoff.
The Daily Beast reports that the Trump administration inflated Iran intelligence.
Iran declared that it wouldn’t abide by certain parts of the nuclear deal.
Zack has you covered on Trump’s withdrawal from the Iran deal and what it means.
Alex has a long feature on worsening US-Turkey ties that details many of Erdogan’s authoritarian actions.
Here’s the Amnesty International statement on how Turkey jails tons of journalists.
CNN has a good piece on the Istanbul mayoral elections and why the results were such a big deal.
It’s worth watching two videos of protesters in Istanbul banging pots and pans.
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5/9/2019 • 23 minutes, 17 seconds
Venezuela’s phantom coup
Zack, Jenn, and Alex discuss the strange non-coup in Venezuela this week. Juan Guaidó, the parliament leader the US considers the country’s legitimate president, claimed the military was about to overthrow actual President Nicolás Maduro in a Tuesday video — and then nothing happened. The Worldly crew discusses how we got here, what this could mean, and the US role in all of this. On Elsewhere, they do the show’s first dive into art history, looking at a poster from Germany’s far-right party that prominently features a 19th-century Orientalist painting.
Links:
Alex has an explainer on how the Guaidó-Maduro standoff began.
Here’s the Guaidó video with English subtitles, and the video of protesters being run over.
Alex also explains the Guaidó video and how it kicked off a week of protest and chaos.
The full Patrick Shanahan and John Bolton tweets, and Mike Pompeo on Fox Business.
America’s spotty record in Latin America, briefly explained.
Here’s why Trump’s Venezuela envoy, Elliott Abrams, doesn’t have the most trustworthy record.
Anti-interventionists have lived in Venezuela’s embassy in Washington for weeks, and that’s led to clashes between them and ati-Maduro activists.
An art publication explains the ins and outs of the AfD “Slave Market” saga.
You can also read the booklet we cited about the painting.
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5/2/2019 • 22 minutes, 6 seconds
Trump is stoking a civil war in Libya
Zack, Jenn, and Alex talk about the recent violence in Libya — where a militia led by strongman Khalifa Haftar is threatening to topple the internationally recognized government. They explain how we got to this point, and the depressing role President Donald Trump is playing in all of this. On Elsewhere, they talk about a major dustup between the Philippines and Canada over (literal) garbage. Zack has trouble defending Canada, Jenn breaks down the word “warlord,” and Alex refers to Muammar Qaddafi as a “sunglasses icon.”
References:
Here’s some background on the 2011 Libya intervention and why it went poorly.
ISIS took over a city in Libya.
As Jenn pointed out, the fighting over Tripoli has led to at least 220 deaths.
Here’s the evidence that Haftar is implicated in atrocities and war crimes.
This Council on Foreign Relations backgrounder highlights Haftar’s supporters.
According to the White House, Trump spoke with Hafter. Bloomberg reports that Trump gave Haftar a green light to attack Tripoli (the White House denies this).
The US has a long history of allying with rights-abusing governments.
The US-Saudi alliance, explained.
More on Canada’s trash.
The HuffPost has a great longread on why the US and wealthy nations send their recycling to Southeast Asia. And here’s a good primer on the problems with waste shipping to East and Southeast Asia.
Listen to more of Filipino President Rodrigo Duterte’s press conference.
Duterte’s drug war has killed thousands.
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Ezra Klein joins Zack, Jenn, and Alex in a crossover episode with The Weeds on Robert Mueller’s just-released report. They explain the special counsel's main findings on collusion with Russian election interference and on obstruction of justice and why they aren’t good for Trump. Then they zoom out and talk about what this whole episode reveals about the health of American democracy and how this gives a green light for Russia and other authoritarian powers to intervene in future US elections. Given how important this report is, and how early they got up to cover it, your intrepid hosts were too tired for jokes this week — sorry.
The full text of the report, compiled by Alex for your reading pleasure
A refresher on who's who in the Trump-Russia universe
Here's a look at the collusion section of the report from Zack
Here's another take from Zack on Attorney General William Barr's worrying role in all of this
Ten examples of potential obstruction in Mueller's report
How 11 legal experts evaluate the claims of obstruction
Zack and Future Perfect's Dylan Matthews break down the big winners and losers from the report
The Big Vox Explainer on the Mueller report
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4/18/2019 • 39 minutes, 3 seconds
The end of the two-state solution?
Zack, Jenn, and Alex discuss the results of Tuesday’s election in Israel, which are set to give incumbent Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu a fifth term in office. They explain why his end-of-campaign promise to annex Jewish settlements in the West Bank is such a big deal and how his desperation to wriggle out of corruption charges could lead to this explosive proposal becoming a reality. Zack explains that people don’t like being in jail, Jenn’s disturbingly lengthy commute is revealed, and Alex compares the Israeli legislative process to player trades in fantasy baseball.
References:
Zack wrote about the Israeli election results and what it could mean.
Vox also has a good explainer on the indictments threatening Netanyahu.
Here’s Netanyahu promising to annex the West Bank.
Netanyahu’s likely coalition could help repel indictment while he’s prime minister.
Finally, take a look at Zack’s short explainer on the West Bank.
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4/11/2019 • 19 minutes, 2 seconds
Brunei just made gay sex punishable by death
Zack, Jenn, and Alex discuss the wealthy authoritarian nation of Brunei’s horrific new criminal code, in which men who have sex with men can be executed by stoning. They delve into the possible reasons Brunei’s sultan is adopting this code, explain how it’s rooted in a very particular and regressive interpretation of Islamic law, and then zoom out to talk about the international reaction — both the necessary organizing to put pressure on the government of Brunei and the ways in which the law is being used in the West to tar Muslims as a whole. On Elsewhere, they talk about the potential closure of the island of Komodo to tourists because people keep stealing Komodo dragons, and then implore Worldly listeners not to keep massive poisonous lizards as pets. Jenn invents the phone number 1-800-Allah, Alex compares religions to apps, and Zack uses the word “dang.”
The BBC has a great explainer on the Brunei law and what it all means.
The New York Post goes into detail on the “sex-obsessed world” of Brunei (and yes, it mentions the yacht named “Tits”), and 60 Minutes did a great documentary on it.
It’s worth noting, as this AFP report does, that Brunei hasn’t executed anyone for decades.
As Zack mentioned, the LGBT community of Brunei has spoken out against the law and worries what it means for them.
Celebrities like George Clooney and Ellen DeGeneres have called for a boycott of Brunei-owned hotels.
The BBC has a very short explainer on Sharia law (but you should just listen to Jenn’s explanation again). If you want to learn more, though, there’s a really great (and accessible) book by two leading scholars called Shariah: What Everyone Needs to Know that’s basically a book-length explainer.
Here’s the archival record of the Sean Hannity segment from 2014.
This is Zack’s big feature on Islamophobia and the Trump administration.
As Jenn mentioned, there are polls taken regarding Muslim views on Sharia law. They typically differ around the world.
National Geographic has everything you’ve ever wanted to know about Komodo dragons.
The Washington Post reported on the smuggling ring that stole more than 40 Komodo dragons for roughly $35,000 each.
If you want to watch the full BBC Komodo dragon attack, it is very worth it.
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4/4/2019 • 22 minutes, 59 seconds
The latest Israel Gaza flare-up
Zack, Jenn, and Alex break down the latest round of fighting between Israel and militants based in the Gaza Strip. They run through how it started, the reasons why it may or may not escalate, and what it tells us about the perpetual state of instability on the Israel-Gaza frontier. On Elsewhere, they talk about the EU’s move toward banning Daylight Saving Time — and yes, there is a Brexit tie-in. Jenn and Zack ask “who among us” hasn’t accidentally fired off a rocket, and Alex explains his abuela’s extremely strong opinions on time changes.
Alex has an explainer on the recent fighting between Israel and Gaza.
Rockets from Gaza usually target parts of Israel’s south.
As Zack noted, the Israeli military assessed that the first rocket attack toward Tel Aviv was a mistake.
Polling shows Gantz’s party has a slight lead over Netanyahu’s.
Jenn noted the indictments plaguing Netanyahu.
An expert told Alex that Netanyahu would respond forcefully but “within reason.”
The Gaza Strip faces many problems, including protests against Hamas’s leadership.
Jenn cited some reporting that Iran might have been involved.
Listen to Vice President Mike Pence’s full speech at AIPAC.
Jenn referenced her friend Lauren Mellinger’s research on Hamas as a hybrid organization.
It’s true: European lawmakers voted to end clock shifts starting in 2021.
Spain changed its own time zone decades ago to be in line with Nazi Germany.
Listen Today, Explained’s great episode on Trump’s Golan Heights decision.
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3/28/2019 • 24 minutes, 1 second
Understanding the New Zealand attack
Zack, Jenn, and Alex delve into the dark far-right echo chamber that seemingly motivated the New Zealand mosque shooter. They talk about the French origins of apocalyptic theories about nonwhites and Muslims overrunning the West, how those ideas went global, and how Islamophobic nationalists are locked in a cycle of violence with jihadists. On Elsewhere, they answer some more listener Brexit questions — looking specifically at how Scotland and the broader EU are thinking about the UK’s impending break with Europe. Zack shows off his recollection of offensive Steve King quotes, Jenn continues her tradition of doing horrible accents from the UK, and Alex claims all Brexit questions can be answered in three words.
Vox’s Jane Coaston has a great breakdown of the white nationalist rhetoric in the shooter’s manifesto.
We discuss works by Jean Raspail and Renaud Camus in the context of the shooting. Our former Vox colleague Sarah Wildman also interviewed Camus.
We referenced two specific tweets. First, one from Rep. Steve King. And then here’s then-candidate Donald Trump’s March 2016 tweet.
The Daily Beast has a great piece on the little girl whose died in a 2017 terror attack in Sweden.
YouTube and Facebook have both discussed why their efforts to take down the shooter’s video failed.
Sean Illing's interview with a filmmaker who spent months interviewing both neo-Nazis and jihadists.
And here’s the piece Zack referenced abouut how ISIS-linked media is already using the New Zealand attack in the group’s propaganda.
Aja Romano explained how the New Zealand shooter’s manifesto was steeped in the far-right memes and rhetoric found on 8chan.
Here’s the NPR interview with former Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd
All Worldly’s past Brexit coverage, all in one place!
Scottish National Party leader Nicola Sturgeon saying Brexit makes Scottish independence even more likely.
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3/21/2019 • 26 minutes, 10 seconds
Introducing Switched on Pop
Vox takes culture seriously. Our coverage seeks to understand how our cultural touchstones work -- and what they reveal about who we are.
That's why we’re excited to introduce you to Switched on Pop. It's a podcast that digs into the cultural context and musical theory of pop music, and it's now part of the Vox Media Podcast Network.
In this episode, you'll meet hosts Nate Sloan and Charlie Harding. You'll hear some of their favorite interviews, as they pull back the curtain on how pop hits work their magic. You can subscribe to Switched on Pop wherever you get your favorite shows.
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3/15/2019 • 13 minutes, 19 seconds
Algeria’s election, UK’s rejection
Zack, Jenn, and Alex discuss the big-deal political developments in Algeria — where longtime ruler Abdelaziz Bouteflika has decided not to run for a fifth presidential term. The decision was a big victory for a protest movement in the authoritarian country, but now nobody knows who’s going to be running Algeria in the near future. On Elsewhere, they continue answering listener questions about Brexit, this time focusing on questions about Russian interference and the real reasons why so many Brits wanted to leave the EU to begin with. Zack ponders European cheese regulations, Alex puns on the name Arron Banks, and Jenn talks about Britain’s (formerly) “rockin’ economy.”
Links!
Alex has an explainer on the Algerian protests which you can read here
Bouteflika gave in to protesters by stepping down
Protesters worry the canceled elections may be a stalling tactic
You can follow updates of all the recent Brexit votes here
Russia intervened in the Brexit election via Twitter bots
US intelligence agencies openly detail how Russia interfered in the 2016 presidential election
Britain’s Channel 4 has all you need to know about the Arron Banks scandal
Vox has a handy guide to Cambridge Analytica
Zack mentioned — and has reviewed — the book Whiteshift
Oxford University published a summary about migration in the UK
Here’s an early Vox explainer on the refugee crisis in Europe
More on the Nigel Farage billboard
Enoch Powell’s “Rivers of Blood” speech
Some research about the impact that immigrants have had on the UK economy
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3/14/2019 • 27 minutes, 22 seconds
D'oh Canada
Zack, Jenn, and Alex talk about the major political scandal rocking Canada in which top officials, including Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, may have pressured the attorney general to rule in favor of a powerful Canadian company facing criminal charges. For Elsewhere, the crew answers some of your burning questions about Brexit: What happens if there’s no deal, and why doesn’t Britain just have another vote on Brexit? Zack finds an optimistic lesson in the Canadian scandal, Jenn makes her French Canadian grandmother proud, and Alex can’t pronounce “SNC-Lavalin.”
Our own Jen Kirby wrote a great explainer on the Canada scandal.
Here’s another in-depth read on what a DPA is, and its history in Canada and abroad. Global News published a full transcript of Jody Wilson-Raybould’s testimony.
The CBC has a good breakdown of the key moments in Gerald Butts’s testimony. Here’s another good read about the case the prime minister’s team is making.
Zack has written about Trudeau’s squeaky-clean image before.
The Trudeau press conference that happened right before our taping.
More on the improved state of conservative poll numbers in Canada.
Listeners who want to know what effects a no-deal Brexit might have will enjoy this comprehensive list.
The article Zack really enjoyed about Canada's health democratic system.
If you’d like to read more about Jeremy Corbyn changing tack on a second referendum, Jen Kirby has it covered.
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3/7/2019 • 25 minutes, 3 seconds
Four countries, two nuclear crises
Zack, Jenn, and Alex break down the week’s big nuclear news — the US-North Korea summit in Vietnam and the recent round of hostilities between India and Pakistan. They go over the nitty-gritty of Trump’s somewhat surprising failure to strike a deal with Kim Jong Un, explaining how the talks collapsed, and what it means for the future. Then they talk about why the conflict over Kashmir is flaring up, and just how worried you should be about a war between these two nuclear-armed states. Zack powers through a cold, Alex powers through a North Korea-related lack of sleep, and Jenn makes a fantastic pun on the phrase “peace out.”
Here are two articles Alex wrote explaining what happened at the summit.
For background, here’s where we were in 2017 and how the first North Korea summit changed everything.
Alex’s exclusive on what the deal could have looked like.
A full transcript of the summit press conference.
Alex mentioned that National Security Adviser John Bolton’s position is very hawkish.
The India-Pakistan escalating tensions, summarized.
Our Worldly episode about Kashmir.
More on Jaish-e-Mohammed and Daniel Pearl.
Zack mentioned the party dynamics in India — here’s a deeper dig into those.
We took a clip from this video of a captured Indian pilot.
The Pentagon statement that the acting defense secretary was only calling American officials.
Zack talked about the role the US played in the 2001 India-Pakistan crisis.
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2/28/2019 • 26 minutes, 26 seconds
Four songs that help explain the world
This week’s show takes all four of our popular Elsewhere music segments and puts them together in one special episode! Zack, Jenn, and Alex take you through a range of different acts: pioneering K-pop artists, a dissident Turkish Marxist band, one of Zack’s favorite British indie artists, and a Nigerian spin on Childish Gambino’s “This is America.” They play a bit of each song and then talk about the important messages they contain about the country they hail from. It’s a little break from the headlines, and a chance to learn about international culture and politics from an angle that the show doesn’t usually take.
The Suga song we played, “The Last 마지막”
Check on Vox’s Netflix show, which has an entire episode dedicated to explaining K-pop.
K-Pop stars are increasingly singing and talking about mental health. But it’s still unusual. Most K-Pop is sanitized after years of censorship. It’s fun, fluffy, romantic but chaste stuff, not things like, “I was afraid of people, so I hid in the bathroom and stared at myself.”
Vox has all you need to know about BTS, the world’s chart-topping K-pop band.
Suicide ranks as the top cause of death among those ages 10 to 39 in South Korea.
Grup Yorum are longtime sympathizers of a Marxists terrorist group in Turkey, DHKP-C.
Here’s the song we played a short segment from.
Currently, 11 members of the band are in jail; two have sought asylum in France. In October, the lawyer defending the arrested Grup Yorum members in trial was himself jailed.
“The Fall of Home” by Los Campesinos
Falz’s adaptation of “This is America,” “This is Nigeria.” NPR did a deep dive on the song and discussed it with Nigerian scholars.
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2/21/2019 • 23 minutes
Brexit’s biggest hurdle: Ireland
Zack and Jenn are joined by Jen Kirby, one of Vox’s foreign affairs reporters, to discuss what has emerged as the biggest hurdle to the Brexit process: the border between the Republic of Ireland and British-controlled Northern Ireland. They go back in time, starting with the 1920s and going forward to the Northern Irish conflict known as “the Troubles,” to examine the reasons why keeping the border between Ireland and Northern Ireland open is so important. They explain how Brexit threatens to close the border, and how this issue is derailing the entire Brexit process. Zack notes that people don’t like walls, Jenn says the phrase “totes not renegotiate,” and Kirby blasts the “butterflies and unicorn” vision for Brexit.
Jen Kirby recommends this wonky deep-read on the backstop.
Here’s more on Gerry Adams’s role in the Troubles and the allegations that he was directly involved in the IRA’s violent activities … and here’s more on his forthcoming cookbook.
Our explainer of the historic vote down that Jen Kirby mentioned … and our episode breaking down that historic vote.
Jen’s piece on this comes out soon!
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2/14/2019 • 26 minutes, 52 seconds
How America’s longest war might finally end
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2/7/2019 • 22 minutes, 58 seconds
Trump’s intelligence failure
Zack, Jenn, and Alex break down a new intelligence report that directly contradicts President Trump’s views on key policy issues from ISIS to climate change. The report caused Trump to blast his own spies on Twitter, writing that “Perhaps Intelligence should go back to school!” — a shockingly public attack that illustrates just how broken US foreign policy is under Trump. On Elsewhere, the group runs through a medley of interesting topics they couldn’t cover during the month of music segments, a lightning round that ranges from Russian post offices selling beer to a rogue Japanese city mascot.
Links:
We talked a lot about the most recent Worldwide Threat Assessment report this episode. You can read it in full, or read Alex’s write-up.
We dropped in clips of Trump on North Korea, Iran, climate change, Vladimir Putin, and ISIS.
This oral history of how Obama and his intelligence officials talked about Osama bin Laden is worth your time.
Yes, Trump basically called US spies Nazis one time.
The evidence that both the intelligence community and the Bush administration screwed up Iraq intelligence before the 2003 war is quite overwhelming.
The BBC has covered the new availability of beer at Russian post offices.
Here’s the New York Times article about Chiitan that Zack referenced.
The video of Chiitan stealing a baseball bat from a locker.
Enjoy the full F-35 rollout rave experience for yourself.
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1/31/2019 • 22 minutes, 57 seconds
Venezuela has two presidents
Zack, Jenn, and Alex break down the political crisis in Venezuela — a country in economic free fall where two men are each claiming to be the sole legitimate president. They run through 20 years of Venezuelan history, explaining how a unique economic-political ideology called “Chavismo” brought us to this point, and discuss what could happen next now that the Trump administration has backed one of the men's claims. On Elsewhere, they wrap up the music series with a breakdown of an ingenious Nigerian riff on Childish Gambino’s “This Is America.” Zack doesn’t totally hate something Trump did, Alex goes down a YouTube rabbit hole, and Jenn tries to chart a middle ground for what could happen next in Venezuela.
Alex wrote a very thorough explainer on all the goings-on in Venezuela.
This piece will give you even more backstory on Hugo Chavez, and the team recommended this explainer on how things went so terribly wrong with the Venezuelan economy.
For more on Maduro taking over after Chavez’s death in the controversial 2013 election, Jenn suggested this piece. We also have a piece diving into the elections from last year.
And here are more examples of the effects that the economic downturn is having — from shortages of toilet paper to shortages of food.
Zack said that most of the country is living under the poverty line as part of the worst depression anywhere on the planet. Here’s the analysis to back that claim.
Maduro’s approval rating is very low.
Alex cited a Wall Street Journal op-ed written by Vice President Mike Pence. Here it is in full. We also played part of this address from Pence.
Trump mentioned a military option in Venezuela at one point. More on that here.
Jenn recommended this explanation of George H.W. Bush’s rhetorical support for the 1991 Iraqi uprising and the subsequent massacre that occurred when the US ultimately decided not to intervene to stop the government crackdown. She also mentioned the uprising in Egypt.
Zack suggested this book for anyone who wants to read more about the history of US interventions in Latin America and South America.
Alex and Jenn talked about a small, unsuccessful military mutiny in Venezuela.
Zack talked about Vincent Bevins’ Twitter thread wondering what the future holds for Venezuela.
On Elsewhere, we heard Falz’s adaptation of “This is America,” “This is Nigeria.” NPR did a deep dive on the song and discussed it with Nigerian scholars.
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1/24/2019 • 25 minutes, 53 seconds
Bollocks to Brexit
This week, Zack, Jenn, and Alex break down the UK parliament’s very big, very bizarre week of voting. On Tuesday, Parliament rejected Prime Minister Theresa May’s Brexit deal by a huge margin; on Wednesday, they voted to keep May in office despite having just shot down her central policy. The Worldly team breaks down how this could have happened, what it means, and what happens to Brexit next. On Elsewhere, they continue the music series with a focus on one of Zack’s favorite bands — the British indie group Los Campesinos! — and how one of their newer songs reveals some of the social divisions fueling right-wing populism in the West. Zack gets angry about Brexit, Jenn reveals some confusion about “economics,” and Alex cites well-known European politics scholar Katy Perry.
Links!
Brexit votes this week, explained
Zack mentioned that the Bank of England predicts that a No Deal Brexit could be worse for the country than the Great Recession.
Jenn mentioned that a second referendum was gaining popularity. Here’s Vox’s Jen Kirby’s Q&A with People’s Vote UK, the grassroots organization that’s leading the campaign to hold a second referendum.
Zack mentioned that a leave claim proved false the day after the first vote. Specifically, it was a health care funding claim that turned out to be false.
The BBC interview with a British woman about a second referendum.
Zack’s piece arguing that there’s nothing May could have done.
“The Fall of Home” by Los Campesinos
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1/17/2019 • 22 minutes, 32 seconds
One of the world’s worst dictators is facing an uprising
This week, Zack, Jenn, and Alex discuss the burgeoning protest movement against Sudan’s longtime dictator Omar al-Bashir. Bashir, who was responsible for the Darfur genocide and once sheltered Osama bin Laden, did not face a major uprising during the 2011 Arab Spring — but now is dealing with something similar, an uprising that could topple his regime. On Elsewhere, they continue the series on music, this time discussing a Turkish band called Grup Yorum that has gotten into major hot water with the country’s government. Zack has thoughts on the piccolo, Jenn breaks down Lindsay Lohan’s unlikely Turkish connection, and Alex quotes Heath Ledger’s Joker. References and further reading: If you want to dig deeper into Omar al-Bashir’s relationship with Osama bin Laden, Jenn recommends this book. For more on the Sudanese government’s role in the 1993 WTC bombing, page 121 of this book is a good place to start. The BBC has a very informative Q&A about Darfur. The official ICC page for al-Bashir. Jenn recommends this book for anyone who wants to understand the civil war that eventually led to South Sudan’s independence. This piece goes into more detail on the US decision to lift the sanction on Sudan. We played a small clip from this longer Al Jazeera segment on the Sudan protests, and Alex described this video of the protests. If you want to read more about the protests and the price of bread, the team recommends these three pieces. Jenn talked a little bit about “ghost troops,” but here’s more information on those. Sudanese protesters were killed on Wednesday as part of the crackdown. A more in-depth read on Mubarak stepping down in Egypt. A guide to how the Syrian civil war started, which explains why people are worried about something similar in Sudan. Why Sudan didn’t get large Arab Spring protests back in 2011. Here’s why one Sudanese expert thinks the military might topple al-Bashir. Jenn mentioned a Daily Beast interview with a former CIA agent who talked about Sudan. Grup Yorum are longtime sympathizers of a Marxists terrorist group in Turkey, DHKP-C. Here’s the song we played a short segment from. Currently, 11 members of the band are in jail; two have sought asylum in France. In October, the lawyer defending the arrested Grup Yorum members in trial was himself jailed.
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1/10/2019 • 22 minutes, 57 seconds
Trump's surprise troop withdrawal
Zack, Jenn, and Alex discuss what President Donald Trump’s surprise decision to withdraw US troops from Syria means for that country, ISIS, and Iran. After all, nobody — including leading US officials and America’s allies — really wants Trump to do this. For Elsewhere, the crew kicks off a four-part series on how musicians around the world are using their songs to illuminate serious issues in their countries. This week, they discuss a K-pop song that highlights South Korea’s growing mental health crisis. Zack compares a South Korean song to Linkin Park, Jenn blasts Obama, and Alex suggests a slogan for Trump. References: Here’s what you need to know about Trump’s decision to withdraw US troops from Syria. This BBC piece gives a good overview on Obama’s Syria strategy. The Trump administration said it would stay in Syria to keep Iran out. Oops. You can listen to the full clip of Pompeo’s remarks here. Vox made a video about the Kurds and their efforts to create their own state. As Zack noted, Turkey has attacked the Kurds in Syria before. It appears Turkey’s president told Trump that his country would defeat ISIS. Vox has Mattis’s resignation letter. Without US long-term protection, the Kurds have asked Syrian President Bashar al-Assad’s regime for help. Jenn said Obama lost Syria, an argument many experts make. Many experts, including US officials and allies, say the withdrawal is a mistake. Special Presidential Envoy for the Global Coalition to Counter ISIL Brett McGurk said soon before the withdrawal decision that the US would stay in Syria for the foreseeable future. The US military was in Syria without any real congressional authorization. Israeli leader Benjamin Netanyahu asked Trump for a slow withdrawal from Syria. Jenn recalls Trump blaming Obama for his withdrawal from Iraq, thereby giving ISIS the space to grow in power. Trump clearly views Syria as a land of “sand and death.” The Suga song we played, “The Last 마지막” Check on Vox’s Netflix show, which has an entire episode dedicated to explaining K-pop. K-Pop stars are increasingly singing and talking about mental health. But it’s still unusual. Most K-Pop is sanitized after years of censorship. It’s fun, fluffy, romantic but chaste stuff, not things like, “I was afraid of people, so I hid in the bathroom and stared at myself.” Vox has all you need to know about BTS, the world’s chart-topping K-pop band. Suicide ranks as the top cause of death among those ages 10 to 39 in South Korea.
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1/3/2019 • 21 minutes, 37 seconds
One refugee’s story in Hungary
In this re-run Jenn, Zack, and Alex Ward discuss Europe’s political meltdown over migration, which Zack got a firsthand look at during a trip to Hungary last week funded by the Pulitzer Center on Crisis Reporting. They start by airing Zack’s interview with Ibrar Hussein Mirzai, a young migrant who made the harrowing journey to Hungary from Pakistan, and zoom out to explain how the anti-migration sentiment that made Ibrar’s journey miserable also produced serious political turmoil in Germany. Some parts of this episode are a little out of date. The original ran in July 2018. Links: The man we heard from in this episode, Ibrar, was also featured on NPR. You can hear more from him and see a picture of him in that story. An in-depth look at Merkel’s migrant deal from the New York Times. For more context on the Hungary-Germany relationship, Zack recommends this piece.
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12/27/2018 • 16 minutes, 41 seconds
Hindsight is 2018
Zack, Jenn, and Alex wrap up 2018 by looking back at three of the most dramatic foreign policy decisions President Trump made in 2018 — and whether, in retrospect, they turned out to be as dramatic as we’d initially thought. For Elsewhere, Zack pushes back on the fundamental premise of the conversation in the first part of the show and argues that, #actually, Trump’s decisions are still bad, regardless. Zack sings some Miley Cyrus, Jenn explains that the Gestapo were, in fact, Nazis, and Alex treats us to his adorably atrocious Southern accent. Links: Trump doesn’t believe his own government’s report that the climate is changing for the worse. Vox has done a lot of coverage on Trump’s policy toward Saudi Arabia after the killing of Jamal Khashoggi. It’s worth reading Trump’s statement on his final decision on what to do. Here’s a good explainer on Trump’s decision to move the US embassy to Jerusalem. Some analysts, including the New York Times editorial board, called Trump’s move a “failure.” The worry was moving the embassy would imperil US-Palestine relations. But they weren’t that good, even in previous administrations. The Saudi-Iran spat is now more central to Middle East issues than the Israel-Palestine one. Read the agreement between North Korea and the US signed in Singapore. A little explainer of the Jan meme Zack referenced. Despite what Trump says, North Korea is still a threat. As Jenn noted, North Korea at one point threatened to bomb Guam. North Korea greatly accelerated and improved its nuclear and missile programs in 2017. Yes, Trump actually said he and Kim Jong Un “fell in love.” It’s worth reading the full transcript of the Trump-Putin summit in Helsinki. Alex mentioned how Trump once invoked the Nazis when describing American intelligence agents. Watch this Vox video to understand how the US became the world’s superpower and stabilizing force. Trump, slowly but surely, has been increasingly tough on Russia. He’s even started a trade war with China to push back on its trading practices. And ISIS has lost the vast majority of its territory since Trump took office.
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12/20/2018 • 27 minutes, 7 seconds
It was China, in the Marriott database, with the hack
Zack and Jenn discuss the massive hack of Marriott, in which the information of as many as 500 million people was stolen. China appears to be the culprit — part of a broader cyber assault on US institutions that amounts to a massive Chinese intelligence coup against America. On Elsewhere, they discuss British Prime Minister Theresa May’s uncomfortably close victory in a vote challenging her leadership of the Conservative Party, and what that means for the future of Brexit. Zack adopts some British vocabulary and Jenn vents about the many irritations of the security clearance process. The team cited this New York Times piece about the hacks throughout the episode. The full Fox & Friends interview with Secretary of State Mike Pompeo can be found here. If you want to read more about the security clearance process, Jenn recommends this FAQ. Zack mentioned that the CFO of Huawei was arrested in Canada, but here's a much more in-depth look at what that means. And for more context on the no-confidence vote, Vox has two pieces you might enjoy.
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12/13/2018 • 16 minutes, 5 seconds
2 French 2 Furious
Zack, Jenn, and Alex discuss the protests currently raging in France. They began as a reaction to President Emmanuel Macron’s gas tax hike, but have evolved into a much wider rebuke of his allegedly elitist, out-of-touch presidency. For Elsewhere, they break down the late President George H.W. Bush’s hugely consequential foreign policy legacy — both for good and for ill. Zack advises Macron not to act like a god, Jenn nerds out on Middle East history, and Alex tries his hand at French. Macron wants to increase the price of gas by 30 cents to $7.36 a gallon. France’s economy isn’t doing too hot, as Jenn mentioned. Macron fancies himself as a political centrist, which may explain why he’s berated from across the political spectrum. Macron has proposed many labor reforms, the source of the current controversy. Jenn and Alex note that people in the lower and middle classes don’t like “Macronomics.” Zack still can’t believe Macron compared himself to a god. Macron lambasts his citizens for not understanding why he wants to reform France’s economy, as Zack mentioned. Jenn referenced Alex’s piece with stunning photos of France during the protests. There will likely be a protest on Saturday that could turn more violent, a scary prospect since four people have already died. The riots in Paris are the worst since 1968, per Alex, when French students aimed to change the country’s culture. France said it would back down from the gas tax hike, for now. As Zack noted, some experts have called for a gas tax around the world to incentivize people to stop driving. Here’s a quick guide to former President George H.W. Bush and the Panama invasion, which Alex described. Some historians still criticize the invasion. Jenn talked about the First Gulf War. The State Department has a short history of it. Some people argue the Panama invasion led Bush to use military force against Iraq in Kuwait. Jenn mentioned the amazing fact that the US only needed 100 hours to defeat the Iraqis. Bush didn’t do anything about Saddam Hussein retaliating against Shiites and Kurds that opposed him. Kuwait put Bush’s face on towers to celebrate him after his death. Zack noted that Bush came into office at the tail end of the Cold War. Zack details how Bush proved instrumental in helping Germany to unify after the Cold War. Bush says he wasn’t really into the “vision thing.” Alex disagrees. Germany thought about leaving NATO, but Bush ensured it stayed in the alliance. Angela Merkel, the current German chancellor, attended Bush’s funeral in Washington.
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12/6/2018 • 22 minutes, 18 seconds
A trio of unlikely senators work to stop the Yemen war
Zack, Jenn, and Alex discuss the Senate’s historic War Powers vote on Wednesday, the first step toward reining in US participation in Saudi Arabia’s war in Yemen. The US has been supporting Saudi Arabia with weapons and intelligence for years, but the Senate just took a major — unprecedented, in fact — step toward stopping it. On Elsewhere, they run through the UK’s deal with the EU on the terms of Brexit and why Parliament might end up rejecting the deal in December. Zack does a terrible British accent, Jenn manages to repeatedly work the word “omnishambles” into the conversation, and Alex talks about a “garden of unicorns.” References: Alex Ward wrote a great explainer on the recent Senate vote. The full clip of Sens. Mike Lee and Bernie Sanders speaking about the war in Yemen on NBC. For a deeper dive on the Khashoggi murder, you can listen to our last episode, or read our latest Khashoggi coverage here. Trump offered his full-throated support for Saudi Arabia in an (as Alex put it) childlike statement. Jenn paraphrased Sen. Chris Murphy’s reaction to the Senate vote, but his direct quote is here: "I’ve been at this for 3 years, and I am blown away by this.” Zack interviewed Murphy in 2015 and he discussed similar themes. A top Saudi Arabia expert told the New York Times that the Senate vote was an “unprecedented setback” for the US-Saudi alliance. A little nuance to add to Jenn’s point about Germany’s support of the war in Yemen. Directly after Jamal Khashoggi’s death, Germany announced that it would stop exporting arms to Saudi Arabia, but then approved an arms sale anyway. Jenn mentioned that other Western countries support the Saudi-led war in Yemen, including the UK, Germany, and France. Alex mentioned that the senators wanted to hear from CIA Director Gina Haspel before their vote, but couldn’t. Here’s some backstory on that. Jenn walked through a couple of things that did not push us to break our relationship with Saudi Arabia, including Saudi involvement in 9/11 and the Saudi coalition bombings of school buses. She also offered Vox’s Brian Resnick’s piece about psychic numbing as a possible explanation for the impact that Khashoggi’s murder has had. Zack noted that Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman is actually destabilizing the Middle East, despite US assurances to the contrary, and Jenn offered the Qatar blockade as an example. For further reading on our Brexit Elsewhere, Jenn recommends this explainer on the Brexit deal and this explainer on the economic effects that Brexit will have.
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11/29/2018 • 24 minutes, 15 seconds
The case for (and against) open borders
On Future Perfect, Vox’s Dylan Matthews tackles provocative ideas with the potential to radically improve the world – ideas like opening up our borders. One of the most reliable, best-documented ways to lift someone in a poor country out of poverty is to let them come to the US (or another rich country). That’s the argument made by Fabio Rojas, a self-described advocate of open borders. "Open borders" is often used as a punching bag by immigration opponents, but Rojas argues it could dramatically reduce poverty without costing Americans jobs. Leon Fresco works to help get real immigration legislation passed. He's very skeptical. Find Future Perfect on Apple Podcasts | Google Podcasts | Spotify | Stitcher | ART19
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11/22/2018 • 23 minutes, 11 seconds
China’s “concentration camps” for Muslims
Zack and Alex are joined by James Palmer, an editor at Foreign Policy magazine, to discuss a terrible and under-discussed humanitarian crisis: China’s repression of its Uighur Muslim minority. In Xinjiang province, where most Uighurs live, China has set up a series of concentration camps designed to brainwash Uighurs and stamp out their culture and religion. As many as 1 million people are currently in those camps. The Worldly team breaks down how this is happening, what it says about modern China, and what (if anything) the world can do to stop it. Uighurs, explained James Palmer shouted out this piece on Uighur camps by Rian Thum, and an older piece he himself had written called The Strangers He also cited the Urumqi riots as part of the lead up to the introduction of the camps. This New York Times piece provides more details about those. Palmer mentioned that a prominent Uighur footballer was sent to the camps. His story here. Here’s more on China’s social credit score and use of facial recognition software — both of which Palmer suggest have been blown out of proportion. He also talked about the failure of facial recognition software in England. Zack mentioned a BuzzFeed report that dug into apps used to police the Chinese public. Groups that aim to “Free Tibet” remain, including this one.
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11/15/2018 • 25 minutes, 5 seconds
Jeff Sessions is out. Is Robert Mueller next?
Zack, Jenn, and Alex break down the implications of President Donald Trump firing Attorney General Jeff Sessions, both for the Russia investigation and for the rule of law. On Elsewhere, they discuss how the Democratic takeover of the House could result in some much-needed scrutiny over America’s role in Saudi Arabia’s vicious war in Yemen. Zack says most dictators are men, Jenn points out that women can also be power-hungry queens, and Alex explains that House Democrats are Democrats … in the House. Mueller Investigation 101 A little more information about Sessions’s confirmation hearings. More on the history of the Trump-Sessions feud. As Zack said, the president reportedly screamed at Sessions. Trump actually called Sessions “Mr. Magoo.” And Jenn mentioned several Trump tweets about Sessions. As Alex claimed, Trump wanted to fire Sessions even before midterm elections results were in. Jenn mentioned Matt Whitaker’s “Mueller lynch mob” tweet. More on what the investigation revealed about Paul Manafort. Here’s the interview in which Matt Whitaker suggested reducing funding for the Mueller investigation. A deeper look at what degradation of democracy looks like in other countries. Whitaker spoke often with Trump and seemingly lobbied for Sessions’s job. Here’s a Vox video to get you up to speed on the Yemen war, and an article about war crimes in Yemen. A bipartisan group of senators tried — and failed — to stop American involvement in the Yemen war earlier this year. Alex spoke with House Democrats about their plans for Yemen in the next Congress. There may be legislation voted on at the end of the month to end US support for the Yemen war. We played a short clip from Trump’s conversation with Axios about Yemen, but here’s the longer version.
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11/8/2018 • 21 minutes, 38 seconds
Why fringe groups are winning around the world
Jenn, Alex, and returning special guest Alina Polyakova discuss what a presidential election in Brazil and a stunning political announcement in Germany have in common: the collapse of centrist leadership worldwide. The center-left and center-right have broadly governed world affairs since World War II, but a mix of economic problems and growing immigration have led fringe groups to gain power around the globe. It’s a potentially dangerous development that threatens to upend how the world has mostly governed itself for more than 70 years. Jenn usurps Zack’s traditional hosting role, Alex somehow fails to make a soccer reference, and Alina corrects many of Alex’s bad takes. We based the episode around Alex’s piece on the decline of centrist leadership around the world. Alex mentioned the Bretton Woods agreement that led to many of the world’s global institutions. Alina noted how the European Union rose from the ashes of World War II. International relations theory nerds will appreciate the “End of History” reference. We didn’t have enough time to talk about Brazil’s “Operation Car Wash,” but watching this Vox video will get you up to speed. Jair Bolsonaro made a horrifying statement that he would rather have a dead son than a homosexual one. Bolsonaro has had so many sexist moments, a compilation video was made. And yes, Bolsonaro praised the country’s dark past with torture as he voted to impeach former President Dilma Rousseff — who herself was tortured. For more on Bolsonaro, read Jen Kirby’s piece for Vox. Millennials around the globe don’t seem to think democracy is that important, as Alina pointed out. Read about the two October elections — one in Bavaria and the other in Hesse — that doomed Angela Merkel. Here’s why Merkel has been the vanguard for status-quo, centrist politics, and why that led to her downfall. Merkel’s troubles began in 2015 when she let in more than a million refugees.
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11/1/2018 • 26 minutes, 14 seconds
Duck and cover
Zack, Jenn, and Alex address one of the world’s biggest threats: nuclear war. There’s a small but still very real chance that nuclear weapons will be used in our lifetimes; the gang discusses how that could happen — and what it would look like if the bomb actually went off. For Elsewhere, they end the episode on a “high” note: discussing the impact of Canada’s recent legalization of marijuana. Zack comes up with a new nuclear Pokémon, Jenn complains about “dirty hippies,” and Alex finds a way to talk about the World Cup. Throughout the episode, we drew on Alex Ward’s story about how a nuclear war kills you. As we mentioned, Worldly’s dug deep in to the possibility of nuclear war between India and Pakistan before. And here’s Yochi Dreazen’s piece on what a war between the US and North Korea would look like. We’re still at war with North Korea formally, for real. Jeffrey Lewis’s book, The 2020 Commission Report on the North Korean Nuclear Attacks Against the United States: A Speculative Novel There’s a Tumblr of Kim Jong Un looking at things, and it makes Jenn and the Worldly crew laugh every time The Trump administration’s new nuclear strategy calls for more little nukes -- how cute. For more on the treaty we just pulled out of, check out yesterday’s episode of Today, Explained Here’s the nuclear bomb simulator Alex mentioned Here are the basic facts of Canada’s weed legalization. Zack mentioned a Brookings Institution report on how Uruguay is doing just fine after legalizing pot. Zack also talked about “norm cascades,” a term coined by scholars Martha Finnemore and Kathryn Sikkink Check out the Future Perfect podcast!
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10/25/2018 • 27 minutes, 33 seconds
A murder and an outbreak
On a special episode of Worldly with two main segments, Zack talks with Alex about the latest in the Jamal Khashoggi saga and then interviews Vox health writer Julia Belluz on the worrying Ebola outbreak in the Democratic Republic of Congo. Zack and Alex examine how the US political system is responding to the mounting evidence of Saudi guilt, and Julia explains why this looks like one of the worst Ebola outbreaks in history. This is a pretty dark episode, so not a lot of jokes — sorry fam. Vox has been following the Khashoggi story closely. You can find some of the latest articles here, here, and here. We talked about Sen. Lindsey Graham’s and Sen. Marco Rubio’s strong pushback against Saudi Arabia. Here’s a video of Secretary of State Mike Pompeo telling the press he doesn’t “want to know any of the facts.” But it does look like Pompeo pressed Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman hard in private during their meeting this week. President Donald Trump says he doesn’t want to punish Saudi Arabia to the point that it jeopardizes $110 billion in arms sales and because Khashoggi was a US resident, not citizen. But it turns out the $110 billion weapons sale is fake news. Trump compared the Khashoggi case to the controversy over Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh’s alleged past of sexual assault. Yes, really. American leaders have rarely done much to change Riyadh’s behavior. Here’s an interview Alex did with an expert that touches upon that. The Washington Post published Khashoggi’s final column posthumously. Julia recommends this article for more details about the current Ebola outbreak in the DRC. She also discussed a recent outbreak that was successfully contained using vaccines. Zack mentioned that conflict zones in Syria have also had problems controlling the spread of infectious disease. Here’s the survey Julia mentioned of people’s attitudes towards vaccines and clinics.
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10/18/2018 • 20 minutes, 44 seconds
Where is Jamal Khashoggi?
Zack, Jenn, and Alex discuss the disappearance of Jamal Khashoggi, a prominent Saudi dissident-in-exile and Washington Post columnist. Khashoggi went into the Saudi consulate in Istanbul to get some paperwork, and then never came out; it’s looking like the increasingly repressive Saudi government either kidnapped or killed him, and is now having to face the consequences. On Elsewhere, they discuss a recent attempt to ban same-sex marriage in Romania that backfired spectacularly. Jenn teaches the team how to pronounce Arabic names, Alex makes the “wah-wah” noise, and Zack is shocked that the show ended on a positive note for once. Vox’s Alexia Underwood wrote a great explainer on the Khashoggi situation. Alexia also recommends this piece with more background on Khashoggi. You can read Khashoggi’s columns in the Washington Post. As Jenn mentioned, the New York Times dug into the identities of the 15 men. US intelligence reportedly suggests Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman ordered Khashoggi’s rendition to Saudi Arabia Jenn walked us through the larger pattern of disappearing activists. Here are two good pieces that dive into that in more detail, one from the Washington Post and one from the New York Times. We also dove into this in our most recent episode about Saudi Arabia. As Zack mentioned, women who fought for rights in Saudi Arabia were then detained. NPR interviewed Khashoggi about this at the time. The Daily Beast found out that Khashoggi planned to start a pro-democracy group for the Middle East. The blank space where Khashoggi’s column should be. The US may soon place sanctions and enact other punishments on Saudi Arabia. Top US officials — Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, National Security Adviser John Bolton, and White House adviser Jared Kushner — have spoken with Mohammed bin Salman about the Khashoggi situation. Jenn cited another piece of pushback — from the tech sector. And from the New York Times. Alex mentioned that a lot of money was spent on the referendum. The number is somewhere between 40 and 50 million dollars. More on previous failed attempts at legalizing same-sex unions in Romania.
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10/11/2018 • 21 minutes, 33 seconds
The looming Brexit catastrophe
Zack, Jenn, and Alex discuss the state of Brexit: The United Kingdom’s ongoing negotiation over the terms of its departure from the European Union. The process has involved months of turmoil between UK Prime Minister Theresa May and hardline members of her party, and the UK and EU are still far apart — and if there’s no resolution, things could get bad for the UK pretty soon. On Elsewhere, they discuss an ironic situation in China: The ruling Communist Party has cracked down on a Marxist student group at the country’s most prestigious university. Zack geeks out on political science research, Jenn discusses high school lock-ins, and Alex throws a water bottle across the room. References: If you want to know the intricacies of the Chequers plan, Jenn recommends this BBC article. Listen to former Brexit Secretary David Davis say that the Chequers plan “is almost worse than being in” the EU here. Alex wrote about Boris Johnson quitting as the UK’s foreign secretary over the Chequers plan. Zack said the best political science shows that people in the UK voted for Brexit mainly because of issues with immigration. Here’s one example of that political science. Migration is good for the UK’s economy, as CNN reports. The Guardian has a few projections of what would happen if there’s no deal on Brexit between the UK and EU. In the worst-case scenario, the Royal Air Force may have to fly food and medicine around the country, aircraft made with UK parts might be grounded, and more. There’s a chance the UK will hold a second referendum on Brexit, as Zack mentioned. Here’s Peking University’s English-language website, where you can check out its School of Marxism. Chinese President Xi Jinping lauded the school for its work on Marxist thought.
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9/27/2018 • 23 minutes, 52 seconds
Trump’s plan to tank the Chinese economy
Zack, Jenn, and Alex discuss President Trump’s massive new escalation in his trade war with China — new tariffs that mean half of all imports from China are now being taxed. They break down how these tariffs will actually affect Americans, Trump’s overall strategy of hurting the Chinese economy, and why this isn’t likely to end well for anyone. On Elsewhere, they chat about the Polish president’s bold new gambit to build a US military base on his soil — and name it Fort Trump. Zack does a Jerry Seinfeld voice, Jenn learns an exciting fact about Jared Kushner’s Amazon search history, and Alex confesses his love for the fashion lobby. References! The statement from the president announcing tariffs. Throughout the episode, we quoted Alex’s reporting; Jenn also referenced Matt Yglesias’s explanation of the trade war. Jenn quoted a guest on Marketplace. To hear the full interview, check out “Tariffs, but make it fashion” from September 17, 2018. Here’s more on how Peter Navarro was hired. This Politico piece digs deeper into Trump’s historical positions on various Asian countries. More details and background on the Fort Trump situation. We discussed Trump’s Saudi Arabia visit and his visit to the Forbidden City. Here’s a former Pentagon official explaining why NATO allies won’t like Trump unilaterally deciding to put a base in Poland.
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9/20/2018 • 22 minutes, 46 seconds
Did al-Qaeda win?
Zack, Jenn, and Alex break down the debate over the legacy of the 9/11 attacks: Did al-Qaeda get what it wanted? On Elsewhere, we look at Russia’s latest bizarre attempt to deflect blame for the UK spy poisoning by posting a questionable interview with the supposed suspects. Zack makes an epistemology joke, Alex negs Salisbury, and Jenn labels Russians a “tropical people.” References: The Foreign Policy article that kicked off this conversation. During the conversation about torture in the US, Jenn mentioned a Dick Cheney quote and Alex referenced a quote from President Obama. Jenn recommends this article for deeper understanding about al-Qaeda’s goal of bleeding America economically and militarily to convince the country to get out of the Middle East. She also cited this statement of the organization’s goals from 1998. And here’s more on the “Why aren’t we attacking Sweden?” argument. Ayman al-Zawahiri’s Knights Under the Prophet’s Banner recounts his early days in Egypt, and Gilles Kepel’s book Muslim Extremism in Egypt: The Prophet and Pharaoh talks about the history of the jihadi movement in Egypt. And Jenn recommends this article about US counterterrorism assistance to Egypt in the 1990s. More on Jared Kushner’s friendship with Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman. Jenn read from two Al Qaeda 9/11 anniversary messages, one from 2017 and one from this week. Zack mentioned research into the Iraq war’s role in the 2008 recession, and the fact that people born after 9/11 are now able to enlist. The RT interview that we discussed in Elsewhere. And an explanation of Johny Johny, for listeners fortunate enough to have so far avoided this corner of the internet.
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9/13/2018 • 29 minutes, 40 seconds
A looming disaster in Syria
Zack, Jenn, and Alex dissect the looming crisis in Idlib, the last big rebel stronghold in Syria, which will soon be the target of a vicious Assad regime offensive. The roughly three million people in the region, many of whom were displaced from previous rounds of fighting, are in dire straits — and it’s not clear what the United States, or the rest of the world, plans to do about any of this. On Elsewhere, they examine former Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's improbably woke Twitter account. Zack discusses the intricacies of Soviet propaganda, Jenn tells Trump to call Putin, and Alex invokes the time-honored “whoa if true” maxim. References! We draw on Alex’s reporting for a lot of the first segment. For more, read The looming fight for Idlib, Syria’s last main rebel stronghold, explained. Zack talked about the “siege, starve, surrender” approach. He also mentioned that starvation as a method of warfare is a war crime. A few times over the course of the episode, Alex mentioned the humanitarian crisis brewing in Idlib. He dives into that in his piece, but also recommends this story from the Atlantic. For more on the difficulties that humanitarian groups have faced trying to bring aid to the region, check out this story from Al Jazeera. Alex also referenced the 2017 chemical weapons attack on Khan Shaykhun. Zack drew some comparisons with Libya. To read about that situation in more depth, he recommends this piece. Jenn described President Trump’s interview with the Daily Caller, but you can also read a full transcript. https://dailycaller.com/2018/09/05/full-transcript-trump-daily-caller-interview/ She also mentioned the Putin-Trump press conference in Helsinki. Alex briefly summarized Turkey’s position, but if you want to read further, he recommends this article. For Elsewhere, the team discussed this piece by Vox’s Alexia Underwood about Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's Twitter. The SNL digital short Iran So Far is well worth watching.
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9/6/2018 • 25 minutes, 48 seconds
Deal or no deal
Zack and Alex are joined by a special guest — Weeds host Dara Lind — to discuss the way President Trump makes deals with foreign countries. They break down the big news of the week on nuclear negotiations with North Korea and NAFTA talks with Mexico and Canada, and point to a common thread: Trump announces an agreement that doesn’t actually solve the problem it’s supposed to, and might not even work, forcing his aides to scramble and clean up the mess. Zack channels Jenn while she’s on vacation, Dara explains NAFTA by referencing Avril Lavigne, and Alex explains that 2 and 3 are different numbers. References! We dig into Alex’s reporting this episode. Here’s his full piece on the promises made at the North Korea summit in Singapore. And here are the four points Alex also mentioned. The whole team discussed this piece out of Tokyo Business Today. Dara’s been on Worldly since, but here’s the episode she mentioned where they talk about the rise of Trump’s war cabinet: Dara gave us a quick primer on NAFTA, but if you’d like to go into more depth, Zack recommends this piece. Alex started to dig into some of the details about the new NAFTA negotiations. You can read more about those here. As Dara mentioned, the NAFTA “deadline” of Friday is set by an artificial concern: The three countries want to ink a deal with the current president of Mexico, Enrique Peña Nieto, before he leaves office December 1. More on the Canadian and US all-night negotiations that Dara mentioned. Alex and Dara brought up Trump’s beef with Canadian dairy. Zack described this Cabinet meeting, and we heard Jeff Sessions speak. Dara reminded us that Trump is extremely over Sessions, because he doesn’t think Sessions’s praise is pleasing enough to the ear (apparently the AG “talks like he has marbles in his mouth”). We quoted the final Trump-Clinton debate twice. Here’s a full annotated transcript of that debate.
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8/30/2018 • 28 minutes, 56 seconds
The Trump-Fox News-white nationalist feedback loop
Zack, Jenn, and Alex talk about Trump’s late-night tweet about the alleged persecution of white South African farmers. They explain what’s actually happening in South Africa, how Trump’s take on the situation has its roots in an international white nationalist movement, and how Fox News is helping turn these extreme ideas into actual US foreign policy. On Elsewhere, they discuss the recent revelation that Iran has been engaging in a Russia-style disinformation campaign on social media — and why the US can’t seem to fight back against foreign meddling in its politics. Alex recalls his old AOL screen name, Zack reveals a little too much about what the word “cyber” means to him, and Jenn leavens a dark episode with talk of cute cats and dogs. References: Jenn’s piece on President Trump’s South Africa tweet, which we reference throughout the episode. Jenn mentioned that experts contest this narrative. Here are several pieces from Quartz, the New Statesman, and the BBC that dig into that idea further. If you’d like to read more about apartheid in South Africa, this Smithsonian piece is a good place to start. We quoted this tweet from President Trump and this tweet from the South African government, and mentioned this Ann Coulter tweet. Jenn touched on the group that pushes this narrative about white South African farmers under attack, but you can read more about them in this HuffPost piece. More background on Charleston, South Carolina, shooter Dylann Roof. Zack gave a shout-out to Carlos Maza’s Strikethrough video about white supremacists and Tucker Carlson. Jenn mentioned this Guardian piece walking through the journey this narrative took from South Africa to the far right. For Elsewhere, we played a clip from this interview with John Bolton. Here’s a deeper dive into the fake Iranian and Russian accounts. Jenn gave a specific example of a fake Iranian account calling out a Republican candidate for Holocaust denial. For more on the Iranian accounts impersonating Bernie Bros, this Daily Beast piece is a good resource. Alex mentioned Stuxnet, and the hacking of both a dam and JP Morgan. Alex also said that various officials feel they have no real directive from the president on cyber initiatives. Here’s more on that. If you want to know a little more about how vulnerable to cyber threats we really are, Alex recommends this piece.
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8/23/2018 • 22 minutes, 57 seconds
Talking Turkey (and its economic crisis)
Zack, Jenn, and special guest Matt Yglesias discuss the economic crisis crippling Turkey — and how its feud with the Trump administration over a detained American pastor is making things even worse. On Elsewhere, Jenn and Zack examine the very real and very disturbing pirates of the Caribbean. Zack demonstrates his thorough mastery of Turkish acronyms, Matt challenges Turkey’s right to the biggest airport, and Jenn reveals the lengths she’d go to protect her dog. References: For some background on Erdogan, watch this Vox video on Erdogan’s slide toward authoritarianism. Zack mentioned the history of military coups in Turkey, but we couldn’t go into it in detail. Here’s an in-depth piece with the long, bizarre backstory. A little more on Erdogan’s son-in-law as finance minister. As Zack mentioned, there have been lots of Turkish megaprojects, including an airport and a bridge. The Washington Post article Jenn quoted to describe the situation for people living in Turkey. Jenn talked about Erdogan’s possible deal with Putin. If you want more details, she recommends this Wall Street Journal article. All the ins and outs of the fight over Pastor Brunson that Jenn described. And more information on the tariff hikes and retaliatory measures touched on at the end of the first segment. We’ve described the situation in Venezuela on Worldly before, but this is also a great Vox video on the collapse of Venezuela. Zack referenced this Washington Post article “They Be Pirates.” And Jenn cited this Bloomberg Businessweek piece about the collapse of Venezuela’s fish industry and how the Venezuelan Coast Guard and National Guard are also getting involved in piracy.
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8/16/2018 • 27 minutes, 42 seconds
Saudi Arabia picked a fight with...Canada?
Zack, Jenn, and Alex explore the utterly bizarre diplomatic fight between Saudi Arabia and Canada — and why it has everything to do with the ruthless ambition of Saudi’s young new crown prince, Mohammed bin Salman. On Elsewhere, they discuss a big scoop Alex got on what the US is asking from North Korea in their nuclear arms negotiations — and what that tells us about how those negotiations are going (spoiler: not very well). Zack finally grants his Canadian fiancée’s wish to do a Canada episode, Jenn proposes a new location for a Trump hotel, and Alex reveals his unique nickname for the Saudi crown prince. References! Jenn’s piece on the Saudi Arabia-Canada fight (and a shorter, more up-to-date version here) The tweet from the Canadian foreign ministry that kicked things off Jenn specifically described one tweet with an image of a plane flying towards the Toronto skyline, and cited some Washington Post reporting. Here’s an article on the Saudi-owned media outlet al-Arabiya putting out a video calling Jordan Peterson a political prisoner. As we mentioned, there’s a Today, Explained episode that goes into much more depth on Jordan Peterson’s ideology! Zack also wrote a Peterson explainer. For more on the 2014 human rights violations that Alex mentioned, read this executive summary. Zack and Jenn talked about Mohammed bin Salman’s rise to power. Here’s that story in more depth. Sarah Wildman wrote a great piece for Vox last year about Saudi princes being held at a Ritz-Carlton. As Alex mentioned, Saudi Arabia is currently bombing civilians in Yemen and has a diplomatic blockade against Qatar. And just this Thursday, the Saudi-led coalition bombed a school bus full of children in Yemen, killing at least 43 people, at least 29 of whom were children under the age of 15. Jenn quoted this essay from the Globe and Mail at the end of the first segment. We spent most of Elsewhere discussing Alex’s recent North Korea piece.
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8/9/2018 • 23 minutes, 47 seconds
A man, a plan, Iran
On this week’s episode, Zack, Jenn, and Alex look at the economics behind Trump’s offer to sit down with Iranian President Hassan Rouhani. The Iranian economy is in trouble after the US withdrew from the Iran nuclear deal, due to the impending threat of new sanctions; Trump hopes this will pressure the Iranians to come back to the negotiating table, but it might actually backfire. On Elsewhere, they talk about Google’s plan to move into China by building a censored search engine, and the ways tech giants are like mini states. Alex reveals his love of pistachios, Jenn expresses distaste for Bing, and Zack pinpoints the “Iranian carrot.” References! We played a clip from a recent Trump rally in Tampa, Florida. The full rally can be found here. Jenn read a quote from this Chicago Tribune article, which also goes deeper into the Iranian economy. Alex gave us a recap on America’s previous sanctions and the Iran nuclear deal. More details here. He also mentioned that the Iranian currency has dropped dramatically since 2012. In discussing the protests, the team referenced the Green Movement. Zack suggests this research on the effects of sanctions as further reading. The Intercept piece that broke the Google Project Dragonfly story. More on Google’s first go-round in China, and on Operation Aurora. Jenn ran through some censorship specifics. She gave the example of the Winnie the Pooh ban and, more recently, the crackdown on women calling out sexual assault. Alex mentioned that Google employees pushed back against Pentagon contracts.
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8/2/2018 • 25 minutes, 38 seconds
It’s gettin hot in here, so get really concerned about global stability
Zack, Jenn, and Alex dig into the heat wave wreaking havoc across the Northern Hemisphere, spreading a wildfire in Greece so hot that cars are melting on city streets. They get special science guest Umair Irfan to explain the connection between this heat wave and climate change, and then talk about what we’ve seen this summer as a harbinger of the global disruptions to come as the earth continues to heat up. For Elsewhere, they talk about some rare good news that you may not have heard — the formal end to the 20-years-long conflict between Ethiopia and Eritrea. Zack explains authoritarian stability via a Jurassic Park reference, Jenn gets super excited about collective action problems, and Alex somehow manages to turn the conversation back to North Korea. Umair’s Vox piece mentioned by Jenn about why heat waves are so dangerous. Report talking about sleep detecting air conditioners. Piece mentioned by Alex where a Japanese meteorologist talks about high temperatures becoming the norm. A good piece explaining why greenhouse gases are falling under Trump Recent DOD study on climate related risks to national security. Good article on how Ethiopia and Eritrea found peace after 2 decades of conflict. Worldly has been nominated for this year's People's Choice Podcast Awards! You can vote for our show for free by going to podcastawards.com, or by tapping the link in the show notes. Voting ends on Tuesday, July 31st, so don't wait! Go to podcastawards.com right now to cast your vote for Worldly.
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7/26/2018 • 32 minutes, 50 seconds
From Russia, with love (and hacking)
Zack, Jenn, and Alex examine the evidence of Russian meddling in the 2016 election — and how much of it President Donald Trump had already been shown before his meeting in Helsinki with Russian President Vladimir Putin. They dig into the Justice Department’s indictment of 12 Russian military intelligence operatives, which came out just before Trump went to Helsinki, and another indictment announced the day of the Helsinki meeting targeting a Russian woman named Maria Butina who allegedly plotted to infiltrate the NRA. For Elsewhere, they look at the unrest in Nicaragua, which has killed some 300 people. Zack tells everyone how to pronounce “Guccifer,” Alex celebrates having gone to the same school as a Russian spy, and Jenn wishes she could dye her hair “red like Mother Russia.” We didn’t go deep into the actual press conference this episode, but if you want to read more about America’s geopolitical suicide, Zack wrote a great piece this week. Alex explained why we didn’t just give things up to Russia — we also didn’t get much in return. Zack mentioned this recent New York times story several times throughout the episode. Jenn talked about Vox writer Andrew Prokop’s breakdown of the Mueller indictment. This is the piece Jenn recommends for anyone who wants to read more about Maria Butina. This is the video of her short interview at FreedomFest Jenn touched on Alexander Torshin momentarily but suggests this for anyone who wants to do a deeper dive. More on Jenn’s point that Russia funded fake Black Lives Matter protests and other fake rallies Jenn gave a shout out to Vox writer Jen Kirby’s roundup of all the times opportunities Trump had to call out Russia for election meddling For Elsewhere, we talk about Nicaragua. For more on that story, Alex suggests this Washington Post piece. Here’s a short Washington Post video of protests in Nicaragua. As Zack promised, some research showing Nicaraguan commitment to democracy The response from Heather Nauert that Jenn paraphrased. Want more Nicaragua coverage? Check out Today, Explained’s episode on the issue.
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7/19/2018 • 24 minutes, 35 seconds
Has Trump actually been good for NATO?
Jenn, official new Worldly co-host Alex Ward, and special guest Dr. Alina Polyakova discuss President Trump’s big NATO summit this week and his upcoming meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin. Trump has openly criticized the NATO military alliance and said he wants a better relationship with Russia. But Alina, an expert who studies Europe and Russia, argues the NATO alliance is actually in a lot better shape now than it has been in years. Jenn gets really excited about exclamation marks, Alex makes his debut as an official member of the Worldly crew, and Alina compares Trump’s treatment of NATO allies to an abusive relationship. Links! Here's a primer on NATO, in case you wanted to go into more depth than our quick overview We talked a lot about Russia's relationship with Ukraine in this episode, and about the Baltics. Here's some reading on both of those situations. Here's what we expected from the NATO summit and a good run down of what's actually happened. Alina also has a really good WSJ write up of NATO and the Trump presidency. Looking ahead: Alex recommends this guide to Trump's meeting with Putin. Vote for us in the People's Choice Podcast Awards!
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7/12/2018 • 23 minutes, 9 seconds
Why Europe turned its back on migrants
Jenn, Zack, and recurring guest Alex Ward discuss Europe’s political meltdown over migration, which Zack got a firsthand look at during a trip to Hungary last week funded by the Pulitzer Center on Crisis Reporting. They start by airing Zack’s interview with Ibrar Hussein Mirzai, a young migrant who made the harrowing journey to Hungary from Pakistan, and zoom out to explain how the anti-migration sentiment that made Ibrar’s journey miserable is fueling the biggest challenge to German Chancellor Angela Merkel’s government yet. On Elsewhere, they talk about Mexico’s election of a new president — the leftist anti-corruption crusader Andrés Manuel López Obrador (or AMLO, for short). Zack recounts a visit to the heavily policed Hungarian border fence, Jenn pronounces AMLO’s full name correctly, and Alex does his best Thomas Friedman impression. Links: The man we heard from in this episode, Ibrar, was also featured on NPR. You can hear more from him and see a picture of him in that story. An in-depth look at Merkel’s migrant deal from the New York Times. For more context on the Hungary-Germany relationship, Zack recommends this piece. A piece written for Vox about AMLO’s election and what it might mean. You can also hear more about AMLO on Today, Explained. They devoted a whole episode to him and to the Mexican election this week.
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7/5/2018 • 25 minutes, 51 seconds
The military’s biggest challenge? Trump.
Jenn sits down with returning guest Alex Ward and special guest Loren DeJonge Schulman, a defense expert at the Center for a New American Security, to talk about why the hell the Pentagon keeps getting caught off guard by big decisions coming from the White House. From Trump canceling military exercises with South Korea to creating a new “space force” to asking the military to prepare to house thousands of immigrant children on US military bases, Secretary of Defense James Mattis seems to be completely out of the loop these days. The gang talks about what that means for Mattis, Trump, and US foreign policy going forward. Jenn imagines Mattis’s inner thoughts, Alex decides that space war is boring, and Loren makes an awesome reference to the Netflix show The Crown.
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6/28/2018 • 29 minutes, 52 seconds
Blame China?
On a special goodbye Worldly — it’s Yochi’s final episode, sadly — he, Jenn, and Zack talk about President Donald Trump’s looming trade war with China, which could soon make it more expensive to buy everything from an iPhone to an air conditioner. The US has imposed tens of billions of dollars worth of tariffs on Chinese imports, Beijing is hitting back, and it’s all heading in a pretty dangerous direction. On Elsewhere, the team says goodbye to Yochi, who’s returning to full-time writing, and celebrates what he’s done for the show. Someone was definitely cutting onions in the studio during the taping of this episode. Throughout the episode, we talk about what a trade war might mean. Zeeshan Aleem wrote a great explainer on this. Jenn walked us through the tariffs back and forth right at the top of the show. You can read more specifics about those tariffs here and here. The Verge also had a great piece about what this might mean for tech manufacturing. More context on the delegation that went to Beijing to talk about tariffs without much success. Here’s a piece that dives into Trump’s rhetoric about Asia and trade going back decades, and one that looks very specifically at what he said about Japan. When Zack said that some people call this IP theft the greatest theft in history, the exact quote was “the greatest transfer of wealth in history.” Yochi also talked about foreign agents and spying more generally. Jenn mentioned that companies complain about Chinese trade practices. There’s a great Planet Money episode this week that touches on why those companies don’t necessarily say things explicitly. Here’s the piece that Zeeshan wrote a few months ago about disagreements between Trump advisers. Here’s the Washington Post piece about the navy hack and the submarine warfare intelligence that was gathered as a result. Yochi cited a few Republican lawmakers grilling Wilbur Ross on tariffs. Here’s a write up of that grilling, and here’s the full session on C-SPAN. Yochi shouted out Zack’s writing on manufacturers who have been affected by China. Zack walked us through some of economist David Autor’s research on the effect US-China trade ties have had on American jobs. We pulled a clip from Trump’s appearance on the Bernie and Sid show and from this interview with Larry Kudlow. And here’s the wild trailer for Death by China. For more trade war content, check out this great Today, Explained episode about the Chinese tariffs and this one, about the tariff fight we’re having with Mexico, Canada, and the EU. This episode of The Indicator and this episode The Daily are also great!
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6/21/2018 • 26 minutes, 55 seconds
The Art of the Deal, by Kim Jong Un
On an all-summit episode of Worldly, Zack and Jenn are joined by actual North Korea expert Jeffrey Lewis (host of the Arms Control Wonk podcast) for an in-depth analysis of how the Trump-Kim meeting actually went. They talk about how the US didn’t get very much, while North Korea got exactly what it wanted and more. They also give a somewhat counterintuitive take on how the summit, which led President Donald Trump to cancel US-South Korea military exercises, could actually be good for South Korean President Moon Jae-in. Zack talks about his taste in Batman movies, Jenn gives terrible microwave advice, and Jeff compares North Korean propaganda to Fox News. Our guest, Jeffrey Lewis, is the host of the Arms Control Wonk podcast and the director of the East Asia Nonproliferation Program at the James Martin Center for Nonproliferation Studies Here’s a good breakdown of the contents of the agreement and some of the winners and losers from this summit. Jenn published a transcript of the summit press conference. We discussed the press conference throughout the podcast. Jeff Lewis mentions that this is not the first time North Korea has made denuclearization agreements. He shouts out a few of those past agreements over the course of the podcast, but here’s a timeline of past agreements, all in one place. We played a clip from Sean Hannity’s interview with President Trump on Fox News after the Summit in which the president praises Kim Jong Un. When Jeff Lewis was explaining the challenges that a dictator can face at home, he mentioned former Romanian dictator Nicolae Ceausescu, who was executed. Jeff also shouts out Michael Wolff’s book, Fire and Fury, when talking about Trump’s trip to Saudi Arabia. We dive deep into South Korean politics in this episode. Here’s a primer on some of that. As Zack and Jeff discussed, North Korean news published a photo of John Bolton and Kim Jong Un shaking hands. Jenn shouted out Yochi’s recent piece about all the ways China is the real winner in this summit.
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6/14/2018 • 34 minutes, 11 seconds
Trump and Kim, sitting in a hotel, T-A-L-K-I-N-G
Zack, Jenn, and returning guest Alex Ward talk about the possibilities — and perils — of President Trump’s upcoming nuclear summit with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un in Singapore on June 12. On Elsewhere, they discuss the wild story of how Iceland’s soccer team went from being one of the world’s worst to qualifying for the 2018 World Cup. Zack shares memories of his 5-year-old self playing soccer, Jenn does her best Viking war chant, and Alex makes a bold World Cup prediction. Alex will have a piece out early next week at Vox with lots more details about the summit setup. Keep your eyes peeled. In the meantime, here’s his recent piece about the latest rescheduling of the summit. Zack mentioned that the Washington Post’s John Hudson was kicked out of the Capella hotel. Jenn talked about the complicated dance the US and North Korea have been doing around paying for hotel accommodations. Here’s more on that. Alex mentioned that Kim might be worried about a coup back at home during the summit. Jenn talked about Trump’s language after his meeting with Kim Yong Chol, and how he shifted to managing expectations about the summit. You can listen to the announcement he made here. As Alex mentioned, Yochi wrote a great piece about what war with North Korea might look like … just in case you wanted to read up on the worst-case scenario. Alex also mentioned that National Security Adviser John Bolton has yet to convene a principals committee meeting of the National Security Council. If you want a textual deep dive into the Iceland World Cup underdog story, Alex recommends this Sports Illustrated piece. Alex was not making up Iceland’s meteoric rise in the football rankings. For the full visual effect of the Icelandic announcer freaking out and the Icelandic chant, please enjoy these videos.
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6/7/2018 • 24 minutes, 3 seconds
The nuclear standoff nobody's talking about
Yochi, Jenn, and Zack dive into the nuclear standoff between India and Pakistan, one of the most dangerous but least known military conflicts in the world. On Elsewhere, they look at the mysterious case of a Russian journalist who was reportedly murdered at the hands of the Kremlin only to suddenly turn up alive and well. Yochi name drops Led Zeppelin, Jenn name drops some international relations theory, and Zack spoils the TV version of Sherlock.
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5/31/2018 • 27 minutes, 29 seconds
Trump’s breakup note to Kim Jong-un, explained
On a special all-North Korea episode of Worldly, Yochi, Jenn, and Zack talk about President Trump’s surprise cancellation of his planned summit with Kim Jong Un — a decision Trump announced literally as the Worldly crew was sitting down to record the podcast. Trump scrapped the meeting in a strangely personal letter to Kim that alternated between reading like the world’s worst breakup note and threatening to use America’s “massive and powerful” nuclear arsenal against the North. We would put jokes down here but it all happened too fast and we’re still processing. References: Trump’s letter to Kim Jong Un canceling the North Korea summit Here’s a piece with more helpful background on the lead-up to this summit collapse, and a longer C-SPAN clip where Trump answered some questions about his thoughts on the summit. We pulled clips of both National Security Adviser John Bolton and Vice President Mike Pence speaking about the Libya model. Jenn mentioned Pete Hegseth on Fox News suggesting that Kim Jong Un “probably doesn't love being the guy that has to murder his people all day long. Probably wants normalization." Zack mentioned that many international relations scholars see status as a motivator for countries’ actions. Zack and Yochi went back and forth on previous talks with North Korea. Jenn mentioned Pompeo’s meeting with Kim. Here’s a piece about Kim asking for US investment in North Korea’s economy, and what Pompeo communicated about those meetings. Talking about concessions North Korea has made, Jenn brought up the recent explosion at a North Korean nuclear test site.
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5/24/2018 • 23 minutes, 58 seconds
The Arab world has abandoned Gaza
Yochi, Jenn, and Zack discuss Israel's killings of dozens of Palestinian protesters in Gaza and why many Arab countries seem willing to give Israel a pass and instead focus on what they see as a growing threat from Iran. On Elsewhere, they look at Vladimir Putin's recent opening of a $4 billion bridge between Russia and the portion of Ukraine that Moscow had conquered and illegally annexed. Yochi stumbles over his Russian pronunciations, Jenn remembers watching beauty pageants as a child, and Zack defends the manliness of truck drivers. References! Yochi went on Today, Explained to give you all the background you need on the events in Gaza. You can also read Alexia Underwood’s explainer for that backstory. Yochi picked 2014 as a concrete example of past protests held in reaction to Israel-Palestine tensions. Jenn walked through some of the smaller protests we saw this time around. She also talked about protests in Iran that weren’t related to the events in Gaza. A more in-depth look at “Linkage theory,” which Zack brought up as an older model for the Israel-Palestine conflict. Jenn was talking about the surprising alliance between Israel and Saudi Arabia. Here’s a little more information about that. More context on the tweet from Bahrain’s foreign minister about Israel’s “right to defend itself by destroying sources of danger.” Zeeshan Aleem has this explainer on BDS in Palestine and more about the movement’s apartheid roots. We pulled the clip of Mustafa Barghouti from this BBC interview. Yochi gave a shout-out to Zack’s piece “Trump, Gaza, and the ‘blank check’ approach to Israel.” If you want to see Putin’s dramatic truck ride for yourself, there’s a video here. And finally, the Instagram celebrity cat that upstaged Putin.
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5/17/2018 • 24 minutes, 26 seconds
America is out of the Iran deal. Now what?
On a special episode of Worldly, Yochi, Jenn, and Zack talk about President Trump's historic and dangerous decision to pull out of the Iran nuclear deal, a move that angered America's closest allies and potentially set the stage for a new Mideast war. Israel and Iran started trading blows within a day of Trump's decision, and the situation could quickly get worse as American friends and enemies adjust to the new reality Trump has created. Yochi compares economic sanctions to football, Zack offers a hot take for the ages, and Jenn says the technical term for a trade war is "some real shit." Zack’s big explainer about what it means that we’ve withdrawn from the Iran deal … and some more context in a quicker form from Alex Ward. Yochi quoted Israeli Defense Minister Avigdor Lieberman’s statements on the recent strikes. Here’s more background on that quote. As Jenn mentioned, we touched on some of the implications of an Iran-Israel war last episode. Alex also has a great piece on this that touches on the recent strikes. Yochi mentioned a previous strike that killed seven Iranian military personnel. Soon after becoming the new US Ambassador to Germany, Richard Grenell tweeted, “German companies doing business in Iran should wind down operations immediately.” Yochi talked about this tweet and the response it elicited from a former German ambassador. Zack dived into some fun wonky policy surrounding “blocking regulations” and how Europe might use them to deal with the current sanctions. Here’s the piece Zack was quoting when he said that an expert believes the Iran deal would have kept Iran from getting a nuclear bomb until at least 2041. John Bolton’s 2015 New York Times opinion piece “To Stop Iran’s Bomb, Bomb Iran.” We played a clip of Bolton talking about that op-ed. It was from an interview he did with Jon Stewart back in 2015. Jenn mentioned a more recent op-ed Bolton wrote for the Washington Post slamming the Iran deal. She also mentioned that the International Atomic Energy Agency and a variety of other experts agreed that the Iran deal was effective. Yochi mentioned that President George W. Bush had had a request for bunker-busting bombs from Israel and declined. Here’s an old New York Times article with more details. Here’s the “winners and losers of the Iran deal” piece that Yochi suggested. For more information on the Iran deal, please check out Wednesday’s episode of Today, Explained.
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5/10/2018 • 27 minutes, 25 seconds
A war between Israel and Iran could really happen
Yochi, Jenn, and Zack talk about Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s over-the-top media blitz designed to sway President Trump to nix the Iran nuclear deal and about how Israel’s shadow conflict with Iran is threatening to explode into a new Mideast war. On Elsewhere, they discuss the Ukrainian government’s abrupt decision to stop cooperating with the Mueller probe after Trump agreed to sell the country advanced US-made missiles. Yochi awards Paul Manafort the gold medal in the Trump Corruption Olympics, Jenn insists ledgers are “sexy,” and Zack busts out some Latin. Links: We spent the first part of the episode discussing this powerpoint speech from Netanyahu, but you can watch it in full here. You can also watch Netanyahu’s full Fox and Friends interview. Zack wrote a piece about that interview, if you’d like some more background and context. We reference it a few times in the show. And here’s Zack’s piece about the IAEA report that already documented a lot of the things covered in Netanyahu’s presentation. Yochi mentioned that he’d covered the finalization of the Iran deal under President Obama. Zack has also covered the Iran deal and was suspicious of claims that the Obama administration made. We got a bit technical this episode about Iran building bases, so here’s some more background information on that. Yochi mentioned Neri Zilber’s piece about Iran and Israel’s shadow war. You can read that piece in full here. Jenn and Zack were talking about the ways that the history of the Iranian regime informs its approach to the Iran deal and to Israel. Here’s a reading suggestion from Jenn on that. Here’s the 2015 Foreign Policy piece by Phillip Smyth that Jenn mentioned about Iran’s plans to use Syria as a new front in its fight against Israel Yochi quoted a Ukrainian official at the beginning of Elsewhere. That quote came from this New York Times piece. For a slightly different take on Ukraine’s intelligence sharing with the Mueller investigation, read this New York magazine piece. The team talked about Michael Cohen’s many, many scams. And here’s more about the mystery of who took pro-Ukrainian language out of the Republican Party’s 2016 platform.
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5/3/2018 • 34 minutes
The ideology behind the Toronto terror attack, explained
Yochi, Zack, and special guest Dara Lind discuss Monday's bloody terror attack in Toronto, which was carried out by a member of a fringe anti-woman movement called "incel," short for "involuntary celibate." On Elsewhere, they talk about how French President Emmanuel Macron used an official visit to Washington to charm President Trump in private and then bash him subtly in public. Zack explains black pills, Dara says there's a cheat code for Donald Trump, and Yochi can't shake the mental image of Trump brushing dandruff off Macron's shoulder. References! Throughout the episode, we’re drawing on Zack’s explainer on incel. Here’s a good breakdown of Monday’s attack and how it unfolded. Zack mentioned that Reddit banned the first incel forum. Here’s some more information about that. Yochi talked about school shooters emulating the Columbine shooters, and the ways research around that topic might apply here. This New Yorker piece walks through that research. The response to Elliot Rodger written by the father of one of his victims. Watch President Macron and President Trump’s dandruff exchange. You can also watch Macron’s full speech to Congress, or read some of the most interesting quotes from that speech and some analysis of his visit. Zack and Dara discussed Macron’s election. Here’s more background on that. Yochi mentioned awkward handshakes several times. Here’s a rundown of some of Trump’s many awkward handshakes. The National Suicide Prevention Lifeline: 24/7, free, and confidential support for people in distress. 1-800-273-8255
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4/26/2018 • 32 minutes, 25 seconds
The promise and peril of Trump’s North Korea meeting
On a special all-North Korea episode, Yochi, Jenn, and Zack talk about CIA Director Mike Pompeo’s secret meeting with Kim Jong Un, the clearest sign yet that the Trump administration is serious about setting aside the belligerent rhetoric and having a historic face-to-face summit between Donald Trump and Kim. There’s no guarantee the meeting will happen, or that the two men will strike a deal. One thing is clear, though: The diplomatic push is the biggest and riskiest gamble of Trump’s entire presidency. Yochi tries to quote Jenn’s colorful language and fails, Jenn says “shit kickin’” like a true Texas girl, and Zack says a lot of funny stuff that got cut in editing. Links! The Washington Post piece that Jennifer referenced breaking the news that Pompeo met with North Korean leadership Yochi wrote a piece about what a war with North Korea would look like. Spoiler: It’d be grim. Yochi mentioned Zack’s piece about Trump’s policy contradictions Zack mentioned that National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster was sometimes perceived as a moderate but also pushed for more hawkish approaches. Here’s some more context on that. Jenn mentioned that Tillerson and Pompeo had very different relationships with Trump, and went into what that might mean for their influence on his foreign policy choices. This article goes into that a little more. We have a lot of pieces about North Korean denuclearization at Vox, but here’s one from Jenn that talks about what that denuclearization might mean and walks through some of the possible trade-offs that might be made to get there. Jenn’s take was that some of the “madman” rhetoric out of the White House might have foreign leaders scared. Here’s the piece about Xi that she mentioned while defending that take, and another piece diving into the subject. She also mentioned interviews with a high-level North Korean defector. Zack sided with North Korea experts who are skeptical of the idea that North Korean leaders are scared of Trump’s rhetoric. Here’s a piece that outlines their pushback. The Washington Post piece we pulled the statistics on South Korean support for reunification from. Jenn touched on the differences between the current and previous presidents of South Korea. Zack spoke about political data from the US that suggests political identity is shaped early. Our daily Vox podcast, Today, Explained, also has some fantastic foreign policy episodes!
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4/19/2018 • 26 minutes, 48 seconds
Trump has no Syria strategy. Obama didn't either.
Yochi, Jenn, and Zack talk about President Trump’s threats to bomb Syria after a brutal chemical weapons attack there — and why a US military strike won’t have much impact on the country’s civil war. On Elsewhere, they talk about Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán, who just cruised to reelection despite (or perhaps because of) his anti-immigrant, anti-Muslim, and at times anti-Semitic rhetoric. Zack shows off his knowledge of Emerson, Yochi mocks Bashar al-Assad’s unusually long neck, and Jenn decides it’s okay to body-shame a genocidal dictator. Show Notes! -The war in Syria, explained. -For more background on Syria, listen to the latest Today, Explained primer. -Yochi mentioned photos that make Aleppo look like Leningrad after WWII. -Zack mentioned “siege, starve, and surrender” as a strategy. Here’s a lot more context on that. -Jenn talked about the ways Russia and Assad spin the narrative around chemical weapons attacks. -More reading on the Russian nerve agent attack in the UK that Yochi mentioned, and on the killing of Kim Jong Nam. -Yochi mentioned two Pentagon leaks — one involving Defense Secretary Jim Mattis and the other involving Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Gen. Joseph Dunford. -This BBC piece gives some good background on Prime Minister Orbán, and on his statements about George Soros. -Jenn mentioned Sarah Wildman’s piece about Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s Europe-bashing hot mic. -Zack talked about the demographic trends in Hungary, drawing on this article in the Guardian. -And this piece talks about Orbán running on an anti-immigrant platform even though there are more anti-immigrant billboards than immigrants and refugees who were let into Hungary in all of 2017.
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4/12/2018 • 30 minutes, 3 seconds
A clear guide to the Israel-Gaza crisis
Yochi, Jenn, and Zack talk about the growing crisis on the Gaza-Israel border, where Israeli troops killed 19 Palestinians during violent clashes with protesters, sparking fears of all-out war. On Elsewhere, they turn to Malaysia, which just passed the world’s first law banning “fake news” — clearing the way for journalists to be imprisoned if they anger the government. The Malaysian law is the latest and strongest example of how President Trump’s rhetorical war on the American media is spurring other world leaders to wage a literal one. Zack sings the Law and Order theme song, Yochi recalls a trip to Gaza City, and Jenn offers a creative idea for a new CSI spin-off. References: Jenn's explainer on the violence at the Gaza-Israel border US envoy Jason Greenblatt's comments on Hamas State Department's comments on Hamas Jeff Goldberg's conversation with Saudi Prince Mohammed bin Salman NYT piece on Malaysia's 'fake news' ban
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4/5/2018 • 28 minutes, 37 seconds
The rise of Trump's war cabinet (Weeds crossover!)
It’s Part 1 of a special crossover with Vox’s The Weeds. On this week’s Worldly, Yochi, Zack, and Weeds host Dara Lind discuss Trump’s national security cabinet reshuffle — and whether the appointment of incoming National Security Adviser John Bolton increases the risks of war with North Korea and Iran. Trump spent his first year in office surrounded by officials preaching policies of relative restraint, but those advisers have been pushed out and replaced with ones who want the US to tear up the Iran nuclear deal and prepare for war with North Korea. Yochi talks about knife fights, Zack confuses everyone by making a Meghan Trainor joke, and Dara sings the praises of sexy alliances.
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3/29/2018 • 33 minutes, 55 seconds
Trump’s Russia policy? What Russia policy?
Yochi, Zack, and special guest Alexia Underwood talk about why President Trump's top aides begged him not to congratulate Vladimir Putin for winning this week's sham Russian election -- and why Trump ignored them and did so anyway. On Elsewhere, they talk about Venezuela's decision to take a page from the Bitcoin playbook and develop the world's first state-run crypto currency, the petro, and why Russia may soon roll out one of its own. Alexia shows off her Arabic accent, Zack deftly uses the phrase "fiat currency," and Yochi marvels at the possible creation of the phrase "crypto-ruble."
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3/22/2018 • 31 minutes, 8 seconds
Putin’s poisonings
Yochi, Jenn, and Zack talk about the poisoning of a former Russian spy in the UK with a deadly nerve agent. The British government says Russia was behind the startling attack, but it’s not clear how far they — or the Trump administration — are willing to go in response. On Elsewhere, they talk about how a French far-right party tried to rebrand itself to hide its racist and anti-Semitic history, but wound up adopting the name of an infamous group that cooperated with the Nazis during World War II. Zack shows off his French, Jenn thinks “Le Google” is a thing, and Yochi bids a fond farewell to former Secretary of State Rex “Mr. Charisma” Tillerson.
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3/15/2018 • 27 minutes, 33 seconds
Rexit special!
On a special bonus episode of Worldly, Yochi, Jenn, and Zack talk about President Trump finally firing Secretary of State Rex Tillerson after publicly and privately mocking him for months. The good news: world leaders will know that Tillerson’s replacement, CIA Director Mike Pompeo, actually speaks for the president. The bad news: Pompeo has lied about US intelligence in the past to help Trump score political points -- and is incredibly hawkish on Iran and North Korea.
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3/13/2018 • 16 minutes, 4 seconds
Make Italy Great Again
Yochi, Jenn and Zack talk about how Italy's elections may have paved the way for a far-right prime minister who sees Vladimir Putin as a role model, wants to close mosques, and openly talks about deporting 500,000 migrants. On Elsewhere, they talk about the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum's decision to revoke a human rights award it had given to Aung San Suu Kyi, a pop culture icon and Nobel Peace Prize winner, because of the genocide unfolding in her native Burma. Yochi translates some Italian, Zack bumps the microphone, and Jenn manages to hide her deep hatred of U2.
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3/8/2018 • 27 minutes, 2 seconds
Why Xi Jinping’s power grab is dangerous for China — and the world
Yochi, Zack and Jenn talk about China's decision to allow President Xi Jinping to rule the country indefinitely, a move that means the world's biggest country will likely grow even more repressive at home and aggressive abroad. On Elsewhere, they discuss a bizarre legal fight in Panama that erupted when the owners of a Trump-managed hotel in Panama tried to fire the Trump Organization, only to see the Trump employees literally brawl with both Panamanian police and the private security guards sent to evict them. Zack accuses Yochi of buying into Chinese propaganda, Jenn reminisces about Jimmy Carter’s peanut farm, and Yochi decides which kind of Chinese bear he is.
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3/1/2018 • 32 minutes, 42 seconds
Russian mercenaries, Israeli airstrikes, and the bloody future of the Syrian civil war
Yochi, Zack, and special guest Alexia Underwood talk about the evolution of Syria’s civil war and how a conflict that once pitted Syrian against Syrian has now drawn in at least six outside countries. Just this past week, Israel carried out waves of airstrikes inside Syria, US troops battled Russian mercenaries, and Iranian operatives in Syria sent a drone into Israeli airspace — all signs of how this deadly war could continue to escalate. On Elsewhere, they discuss a high-level conference in the Middle East that highlighted America’s growing isolation and irrelevance under President Trump. Yochi gives a shout-out to Epcot Center, Zack boasts about the luxurious hotel where he spent the past week, and Alexia shows off her Arabic skills. ReferencesUN official says more than 1,000 civilians died in Syria in first week of FebruaryIran sends a drone on a mission in Isreali airspaceRussian contractors reportedly killed in attack on military base in Syria Further ReadingThe Economist explains gender budgetingIsrael’s Deepening Involvement with Syria’s RebelsA very helpful map explaining tension in Syria and the surrounding region
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2/15/2018 • 33 minutes, 44 seconds
Polish Holocaust denial and the weaponization of history
Yochi, Jenn, and Zack talk about a controversial new law in Poland that makes it illegal to accuse the "Polish nation" of being complicit in the Holocaust, a change that has infuriated the US, Israel, and Jewish communities around the world. The anger comes from a simple fact: Poland suffered when it was occupied by the Nazis during World War II, but some Poles actively took part in the mass slaughter of their country's Jewish population, and the new law tries to erase that history. On Elsewhere, they look at how President Trump's call for a giant military parade through the streets of Washington DC is running into opposition from the military, the population of Washington, and pretty much every Republican senator that's been asked about it. Yochi remembers a profoundly unpleasant trip to Poland, Jenn busts out an elaborate elephant metaphor, and Zack mourns the end of his 20s. Referenced Workshttps://www.amazon.com/Neighbors-Destruction-Jewish-Community-Jedwabne/dp/0142002402http://www.jpost.com/printarticle.aspx?id=540926https://www.amazon.com/Small-Town-Near-Auschwitz-Holocaust/dp/0199679258http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/02/07/trump-military-parade-ralph-peters-says-french-march-americans-fighthttps://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2018/02/06/polish-president-to-sign-holocaust-bill-despite-international-concerns/https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-marching-orders-to-the-pentagon-plan-a-grand-military-parade/2018/02/06/9e19ca88-0b55-11e8-8b0d-891602206fb7_story.html? https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/06/world/europe/poland-holocaust-law.html Further Readinghttps://www.vox.com/2017/5/24/15675606/bryan-stevenson-confederacy-monuments-slavery-ezra-kleinhttps://www.vox.com/identities/2017/8/16/16151252/confederate-statues-white-supremacistshttps://www.vox.com/videos/2017/10/25/16545362/southern-socialites-civil-war-historyhttps://www.vox.com/world/2017/8/16/16152088/nazi-swastikas-germany-charlottesville
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2/8/2018 • 33 minutes, 23 seconds
Why America can’t quit Guantanamo Bay
Zack, Jenn, and returning guest Alex Ward discuss the controversial prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and President Trump’s announcement this week that he’s keeping it open and may send ISIS fighters there. On Elsewhere, the gang looks at a bizarre and hilarious story out of Spain involving a police chase, a car filled with thousands of oranges, and a decades-old battle between Spain and France over...fruit. Zack waxes poetic about one of his favorite essays on torture, Jenn shows off her legal knowledge, and Alex proves why his standup comedy career was short-lived. Referenced Works: Trump just signed an executive order that will keep Guantanamo open Liberalism, Torture, and the Ticking Bomb The oversized rodents that could take over Guantanamo Bay prison Police pull over a car and oranges come tumbling out Further Reading: 7 Key Points From the C.I.A. Torture Report Committee Study of the Central Intelligence Agency's Detention and Interrogation Program Gitmo is Back in Business Guantanamo by the Numbers
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2/1/2018 • 30 minutes, 58 seconds
Why Trump, who promised to keep America out of wars, keeps escalating them
Jenn, Zack, and special guest Alex Ward discuss President Trump’s decision to escalate America’s military involvement in Afghanistan, Syria, Somalia, and beyond — despite having campaigned on an “America First” agenda that promised to reduce US military intervention overseas. On Elsewhere, they look at a story out of Germany, where a member of a popular far-right, anti-Islam, anti-immigrant political party has converted to Islam and quit the party — after working with Muslim immigrants. Jenn talks about the experience of converting to Islam, Zack gets angry about wars, and Alex tries to translate military speak. Mentioned in the show: Cory Booker’s Op-Ed 2018 National Defense Strategy Report Arthur Wagner of the German AFD party converting to Islam You’re more likely to be killed by furniture than by terrorism An explainer on the “mowing the grass” metaphor mentioned Further reading: This is your brain on terrorism Strikethrough video How Trump’s language on Afghanistan has changed since he came into office Candidate Trump promised to stay out of foreign wars. President Trump is escalating them. How would Trump react to a terror attack like one in Manchester? How a Blonde Tattooed Texas Girl Became an ISIS Twitter Star
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1/25/2018 • 37 minutes, 43 seconds
A Saudi-Iran proxy war has torn Yemen apart — and America is fanning the flames
Yochi, Jenn, and Zack discuss the horrific war in Yemen, which has become a battleground in a shadow war between Iran and Saudi Arabia — and where there are real reasons to worry that the US is complicit in war crimes. On Elsewhere, they look to a rare bit of potential good news from Korea, where athletes from North and South Korea plan to march under a united flag at the 2018 Winter Olympics opening ceremonies and compete on a joint team for the first time. Zack has some tough talk for the Saudi foreign minister, Jenn reluctantly admits to her past life as a cheerleader, and Yochi manages to name drop both Dennis Rodman and “Team America.”
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1/18/2018 • 29 minutes, 37 seconds
Why Mueller’s obstruction of justice investigation should really scare Trump
Yochi, Jenn, and Zack talk about the state of play in Robert Mueller’s Russia probe — and why obstruction of justice, not collusion, may pose the biggest legal and political threat to President Trump. On Elsewhere, they look at Israel’s “Strippergate” scandal, in which recordings of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s son and several of his friends boasting about strippers and hinting at shady business dealings have shaken Israel’s political establishment. Yochi shows off his Hebrew skills, Zack reminds us he’s an optimist, and Jenn enjoys hearing a little bit of Yiddish.
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1/11/2018 • 35 minutes, 25 seconds
How expensive eggs helped kick off the biggest Iranian protests in years
On the first Worldly of 2018, Yochi, Jenn, and Zack talk about what the massive protests in Iran say about the future of the country — and about its tense relationship with the US. The protests have demonstrated a remarkable degree of public anger at both the country’s moderate president and its conservative theocratic government, and could give President Trump a new justification for canceling the landmark Iran nuclear deal later this month. On Elsewhere, they look at a new law in Iceland that makes it illegal for companies to pay their male employees more than they pay their female ones. Yochi rallies after a day home with sick toddlers, Zack shows off his deep knowledge of Icelandic feminism, and Jenn asks for a raise.
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1/4/2018 • 29 minutes, 21 seconds
“Speak loudly and carry a small stick:” Trump’s foreign policy year in review
Yochi, Jenn, and Zack bid a fond farewell to 2017 by looking at what Donald Trump's first year in office says about his approach to the presidency and how he's likely to handle Iran, North Korea, and China in the future. The biggest takeaway is that Trump's words often have little to do with his actions, and that his threats rarely lead to concrete action. The gulf between Trump's rhetoric and his actual policies has confused the leaders of both US allies and US adversaries, raising the risk of a dangerous miscalculation with a country like North Korea. Jenn ends the year with by deftly using the word "braggadocious," Zack literally phones it in from Canada, and Yochi gives a shoutout to the aid workers risking their lives to make the world a better place.
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12/21/2017 • 40 minutes, 37 seconds
The most political Olympics since the Cold War
In a special Olympics-themed episode of Worldly, Yochi, Jenn, and Zack look at how global politics will shape next year’s Winter Olympics in South Korea in a way that hasn’t been seen since the height of the Cold War. The International Olympic Committee has already banned Russia because of a massive doping scandal, and the nuclear standoff with North Korea could make some countries jittery about sending athletes to the games. Add it all together, and you have the potential for an Olympics like no other. Jenn confesses to a passionate love of figure skating, Zack argues for taking the world’s guns and giving them to Olympic biathletes, and Yochi makes the case for why skeleton is the only sport you should watch.
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12/14/2017 • 27 minutes, 32 seconds
Trump said Jerusalem is Israel’s capital. Now what?
Yochi, Jenn, and Zack look at President Trump's decision to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, a move that breaks with decades of US foreign policy -- and that tells us a lot about how Trump makes decisions and how often his actions don't match his tough-guy rhetoric. When it came to the Jerusalem decision, Trump used the least-inflammatory language possible, paid lip service to restarting peace talks between Israel and the Palestinians, and made clear that the US embassy wouldn't be moving to the disputed city anytime soon. On Elsewhere, they look at the International Olympics Committee's decision to ban Russia from next year's Winter Games because of a massive doping scandal that involved Russian spies, high-ranking members of the Russian government, and dozens of Russian athletes. Jenn confesses to collecting USSR propaganda posters, Zack reaches deep into his thesaurus, and Yochi explains why vermouth is the drink of choice for female athletes looking to dope themselves to Olympic glory.
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12/7/2017 • 49 minutes, 42 seconds
Rex Tillerson's departure looks imminent as the North Korea crisis heats up
Yochi, Jenn, and special guest Alex Ward talk about President Trump’s apparent decision to fire Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, who will go down as arguably the worst secretary of state in American history. Tillerson will leave the department after cutting large numbers of senior diplomats, ignoring many of those who remained, and being part of an administration that has alienated close allies while cozying up to dictators. The question is whether Tillerson’s likely replacement, CIA Director Mike Pompeo, will be any better — particularly since he is a partisan Republican who defends Trump at every turn, routinely lies about US intelligence, and wants to tear up the Iran nuclear deal. They also talk about North Korea’s test of a new ballistic missile capable of reaching the entire mainland US and the grim reality that the US military would almost certainly be unable to shoot down all the missiles North Korea might launch if war broke out. Yochi compares a powerful Republican senator to a robotic giraffe, Jenn expresses her undying love for and knowledge of what she calls “sportsball,” and Alex busts out the term “killer vehicle” — which, it turns out, does not refer to a really sweet sports car.
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11/30/2017 • 54 minutes, 5 seconds
The president of the world's most powerful democracy doesn't seem to actually like democracy
Yochi, Zack, and special guest Loren DeJonge Schulman discuss President Trump's trip to Asia, where his warm feelings for foreign autocrats and refusal to discuss human rights abuses raise real questions about whether the leader of the world's biggest democracy actually cares much about democracy. Those concerns are magnified by Trump's ongoing calls for a criminal prosecution of Hillary Clinton, a move usually relegated to banana republics, not the US. On Elsewhere, they turn to one of the strangest US military scandals in memory: growing evidence that members of the elite Seal Team 6 killed an American Special Forces soldier who'd found evidence they were embezzling money. Yochi confesses to being a closet video game addict, Zack shares some strong feelings about Henry Kissinger, and Loren battles a Sudafed-fueled high.
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11/16/2017 • 54 minutes, 11 seconds
Saudi Arabia's real-life Game of Thrones
Yochi, Jenn and Zack talk about the shocking purge in Saudi Arabia, where the country's young and ambitious crown prince has abruptly begun arresting his relatives and seizing billions of dollars of their money. The move is a clear sign that 32-year-old Mohammed bin Salman, the heir apparent to the Saudi throne, is consolidating power and eliminating possible rivals. Salman has made some relatively progressive moves, like allowing Saudi women to drive. The problem is that the prince has also escalated Saudi Arabia's bloody war in Yemen and launched a diplomatic crisis with one of its neighbors that shows no signs of stopping. On Elsewhere, they look at how far Chinese leaders have gone to flatter Trump while he visits Beijing, including cannons, dancing Chinese schoolchildren, and a private tour of the Forbidden City. Zack has a hot take about the rulers of Saudi Arabia (hint: he's not a fan), Jenn has business advice for a Saudi hotel, and Yochi nerds out on Game of Thrones. Zack’s article on MBS’ false progressivism Zeeshan’s piece on flattery from world leaders
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11/9/2017 • 42 minutes, 51 seconds
The New York attack reveals ISIS’s plan for survival
Jenn is back, and she joins Yochi and Zack to talk about what the terror attack in New York says about the true ISIS threat to the US. With ISIS on the run in Iraq and Syria, the sad reality is that the group will double down on its efforts to find would-be terrorists who live abroad and are willing to kill in its name. And that means more attacks on American and European cities are inevitable as militants like Sayfullo Saipov study ISIS propaganda and adopt the group's dark worldview. On Elsewhere, they return to Iraqi Kurdistan to look at the political fallout from a catastrophic independence referendum that has now caused the resignation of the most powerful man in northern Iraq. Zack makes a surprising soccer reference, Jenn defends Uzbekistan, and a listener says Yochi sounds like the villain on "Criminal Minds."
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11/2/2017 • 52 minutes, 40 seconds
What were American troops doing in Niger?
Yochi, Zack, and special guest Loren DeJonge Schulman of the great podcast Bombshell talk about the deaths of four US soldiers in Niger in October, a tragedy at the center of a nasty political fight between President Trump and a grieving military widow. They discuss what those troops were doing there, why no one in the military seems to understand how the mission went so wrong, and how America’s military presence in Africa is quietly growing in both size and risk without public debate or much Congressional oversight -- a dynamic that means these won't be the last US troops to die fighting a shadow war in an African nation. On Elsewhere, we try something new — a dispatch from a wind farm in Puerto Rico that Yochi visited earlier this month while looking into the island's decimated power grid.
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10/26/2017 • 45 minutes, 41 seconds
What the fight over Kirkuk means for Iraq's future
Yochi, Jenn, and Zack look at why Washington’s two biggest allies in the fight against ISIS are squaring off over the future of Kirkuk, an oil-rich city in northern Iraq. Kurdish fighters took control of Kirkuk three years ago and have held it ever since — until this week, when the Iraqi central government sent troops to take the city back. Now the question is what comes next for both Kirkuk and Iraq as a whole. On Elsewhere, they look at Sebastian Kurz, the 31-year-old Austrian politician who is to become his country’s next chancellor — and the youngest leader in the world. The most interesting thing about Kurz isn’t his age; it’s that he will likely lead a coalition that also includes a far-right party known for its harshly anti-immigration and anti-Muslim policies. That leads to a debate over Zack’s theory that successful political movements require young, attractive leaders — and whether Kurz looks more like one of the Trump children or a character on Mr. Robot.
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10/19/2017 • 48 minutes, 6 seconds
Trump's risky, pointless plan to undermine the Iran deal without tearing it up
Jenn, Zack, and special guest Matt Yglesias talk about the Iran nuclear deal and the looming Sunday deadline for President Trump to recertify that Iran is in compliance with the terms of the deal. They discuss why, contrary to the advice of nearly all of his top advisers, Trump is probably not going to recertify, and what that means for the future of the landmark nuclear pact. On Elsewhere, the gang answers questions sent in by listeners on everything from the controversial independence referendum in Spain to their favorite foreign policy books. Jenn seizes control of the hosting chair in a coup, Zack debuts a brand new Groot impression, and Matt offers a scorching hot take on the irony of National Security Adviser HR McMaster appeasing Trump.
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10/12/2017 • 46 minutes, 1 second
Puerto Rico’s crisis and the curse of American colonialism
Yochi, Jenn, and Zack look at how the Trump administration’s bungled response to the crisis in Puerto Rico reflects the longstanding challenges facing an island that is neither a full US state (with all the benefits that brings) nor a fully independent country (which can more easily ask for, and receive, financial aid). That leaves Puerto Rico in many cases getting the worst of both worlds, with its people paying a heavy price. On Elsewhere, they look at what happens if Secretary of State Rex Tillerson loses his job after reportedly calling Trump a “moron” — and after being publicly humiliated for months by a president he clearly doesn’t respect. Zack takes a brave stand against colonialism, Jenn decides to run for president, and Yochi prepares for the darkness that will descend if Mr. Charisma Rex Tillerson moves on.
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10/4/2017 • 51 minutes, 34 seconds
Angela Merkel won Germany’s election. So did the far-right.
Yochi, Jenn, and Zack look at Sunday’s landmark elections in Germany, which were simultaneously reassuring and deeply alarming. German Chancellor Angela Merkel won a fourth term, which means she’ll still have the power to let in refugees, challenge Vladimir Putin, and defend the international order in all the ways President Trump refuses to. At the same time, a far-right German political party known for its bigotry and Islamophobia surged at the polls, a jarring shift for a country with Germany’s dark history. On Elsewhere, they look at Saudi Arabia’s historic decision to allow women to drive, a victory — but only a small one — for the female activists fighting to gain more rights in the deeply conservative country. Jenn manages to squeeze in an obscure Lady Gaga reference, Yochi goes a whole episode without an old age joke, and Zack gives his one-sentence view of the Saudi government (hint: he doesn’t like it).
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9/28/2017 • 48 minutes, 5 seconds
Trump took his America First act to the UN
On a special episode of Worldly, Yochi, Jenn, and Vox defense reporter Alex Ward look at Donald Trump’s big first speech to the UN, where the president said the US would “totally destroy” North Korea if war breaks out and hinted that he’d rip up Washington’s nuclear deal with Tehran. The speech was also notable for what it showed about Trump’s broader belief that every nation should put its own interests first even if the end result is a world that is less stable, and less equitable, than the one we have now.
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9/20/2017 • 38 minutes, 35 seconds
Burma was a democratic success story. Now it’s the site of ethnic cleansing.
Yochi, Jenn, and Zack look at the growing human rights catastrophe in Myanmar, where Nobel Peace Prize-winner Aung San Suu Kyi is doing nothing to stop her country's military from mounting a brutal campaign of ethnic cleansing against its Muslim minority. Burma had long been seen as a democratic success story; now it may be edging closer to genocide. On Elsewhere, they look ahead to next week's United Nations General Assembly, where leaders from around the world will snarl traffic in New York while trying to make sense of Donald Trump. Zack issues a heartfelt call for the creation of a world government, Jenn bashes U2, and Yochi recalls a long afternoon of drinking and smoking with the Russian foreign minister.
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9/14/2017 • 56 minutes, 34 seconds
Why more sanctions won’t convince North Korea to give up its nukes
Yochi, Jenn, and Zack look at why decades of US economic sanctions haven’t stopped North Korea’s nuclear program — and why the Trump administration’s new ones probably won’t, either. They examine how such a devastatingly poor country has managed to develop an advanced nuclear weapons program, how Kim Jong Un stays so rich while his people starve, and how the country profits by selling illegal mushrooms and building Stalinist statues across Africa. On Elsewhere, they look at why protesters in Germany just threw a tomato at Angela Merkel, Donald Trump’s least favorite European leader (hint: it has to do with Syrian refugees).
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9/7/2017 • 1 hour, 2 minutes, 15 seconds
Why a Mideast peace deal seems further away than ever
Yochi, Jenn, and Zack ease out of the summer with a look at the one of the most complicated, explosive, and genuinely fascinating issues in the world: the decades-long fight between Israel and the Palestinians. They look at Israel’s promise this week to hold onto its West Bank settlements forever, why Donald Trump may have killed the idea of an independent Palestine, and how Palestinian attacks on Israeli civilians — and Israel’s harsh responses — have made the chances of a peace deal seem more remote than ever. On Elsewhere, they use political science and international relations theory to evaluate which Game of Thrones character had the most effective strategy for consolidating their power and influence and which one failed most completely. Producer Peter Leonard chimes in with his first-ever hot takes.
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8/31/2017 • 1 hour, 2 minutes, 44 seconds
Why Trump doubled down on America’s forever war
Yochi, Jenn, and Zack look at Trump’s decision to send more troops to Afghanistan despite spending years calling for a US withdrawal, why it’s impossible to truly defeat the Taliban, and the sad reality that America’s longest war will now continue well into the future. On Elsewhere, they look at whether the Cuban government used a secret, new sonic weapon against American diplomats in Havana. Zack makes Yochi and Jenn feel like terrible people for finding that very, very funny.
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8/24/2017 • 55 minutes, 15 seconds
The Philippines’s popular president is murdering thousands of his own citizens
Zack and Jenn are joined by Worldly’s first guest host, Vox senior reporter Dara Lind, to discuss President Rodrigo Duterte of the Philippines — an abrasive populist leader whose year-long war on drugs has already killed over 7,000 people. They explore what he's doing, why he's still so popular at home, and what his rise to power can tell us about Donald Trump and populism around the world. For Elsewhere, they look at a bizarre political crisis in Australia that reveals an important truth about immigration.
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8/17/2017 • 48 minutes, 16 seconds
Is Kim Jong Un more rational than Donald Trump?
Yochi, Jenn, and Zack discuss whether Kim Jong Un is more rational and easier to predict than Donald Trump, the dangers of having senior administration officials openly contradicting each other on whether the US would actually use force against North Korea, and why decades of academic research about how nuclear-armed countries can avoid war may be falling by the wayside. Elsewhere, they look at the uniquely French debate over whether President Emmanuel Macron’s wife should be formally recognized as the country’s first lady and given her own staff and budget. (Spoiler alert: Most of France seems to hate the idea.)
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8/10/2017 • 48 minutes, 17 seconds
How scared should we be of North Korea's nukes?
On the newest episode of Worldly, Vox.com’s foreign policy podcast, Yochi, Jenn, and Zack talk about how worried we should be about North Korea’s nukes, what it means that one of the most reclusive countries on earth has a missile that can hit the US, and why the Trump administration can’t get on the same page about whether it wants to bomb North Korea or talk to it. On Elsewhere, they look at Putin’s decision to kick hundreds of State Department personnel out of Moscow and whether the Kremlin has any regrets about trying to help Trump win the White House. Zack lets loose with an anti-Lindsay Graham hot take, Jenn busts out the Putin-related pun of the year, and Yochi gets to use the one word of Russian that he knows.
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8/3/2017 • 54 minutes, 7 seconds
We’re finding out what happens when no one runs US foreign policy
On the newest episode of Worldly, Vox.com’s foreign policy podcast, Yochi, Jenn, and Zack talk about why President Trump is at war with his own attorney general and national security adviser, what it means when the people that are supposed to keep Trump’s worst instincts in check start heading for the exits, and how Trump’s fears of the Russia probe could lead to an actual national security crisis. On Elsewhere, Jenn and Zack have some strong words for the YouTube-friendly, far-right millennials trying to crowdsource enough money to literally intercept ships carrying desperate migrants to Europe and prevent them from reaching safe harbors.
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7/27/2017 • 52 minutes, 44 seconds
Why Trump has stuck with the Iran deal he hates
On this episode of Worldly, Vox.com’s new foreign policy podcast, Yochi Dreazen, Jennifer Williams, and Zack Beauchamp talk about why President Trump won’t rip up the Iran nuclear deal that candidate Trump spent months attacking, what Trump gets right about Iran’s threat to the Middle East and beyond, and why a nuclear arms race in the world’s most dangerous region is a real possibility. They also discuss why China has begun blocking WhatsApp and censoring images of Winnie the Pooh.
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7/20/2017 • 48 minutes, 14 seconds
ISIS’s caliphate is falling. Now what?
On the fourth episode of Worldly, Vox.com’s new foreign policy podcast, Yochi Dreazen, Jennifer Williams, and Zack Beauchamp focus on the fight against ISIS, what will happen now that it’s losing its last strongholds in Iraq and Syria, and whether we overestimate the actual threat posed by ISIS and other terrorist groups. They also look into the political chaos in Turkey, where one of Donald Trump’s favorite foreign leaders is steadily changing his country from a democracy to an autocracy. Zack also shows his off amazingly bad Gollum impression.
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7/13/2017 • 53 minutes, 41 seconds
What could go wrong when Trump meets Putin? A lot.
On the third episode of Worldly, Vox.com’s new foreign policy podcast, Yochi Dreazen, Jennifer Williams, and Zack Beauchamp dig into the high stakes and high risks surrounding President Trump’s historic first meeting with Vladimir Putin, what each leader will ask for, what each leader is likely to actually get, and why Moscow’s interference in the 2016 elections will go unpunished. They also look at why Venezuela, once a rich and stable country, is becoming a failed state marked by political violence and economic ruin.
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7/6/2017 • 50 minutes, 54 seconds
Why North Korea is scary, comical, and horrifying — all at the same time
On the second episode of Worldly, Vox.com’s new foreign policy podcast, Yochi Dreazen, Jennifer Williams, and Zack Beauchamp dig into the tragic case of Otto Warmbier, the US citizen who died after being detained for 17 months in North Korea, and why it's so hard to stop North Korea from doing awful things (be it detaining Americans or expanding their nuclear program). They also look at the religious and political debate over gender segregation at the Western Wall in Jerusalem.
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6/29/2017 • 48 minutes, 48 seconds
The US is getting scarily close to a shooting war with Russia in Syria
On the first episode of Worldly, Vox.com’s new foreign policy podcast, Yochi Dreazen, Jennifer Williams, and Zack Beauchamp dive into the potential for a US-Russia conflict in Syria, the dangers of giving too much power to the Pentagon, and how Trump’s least favorite European leader just got much, much stronger.
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