Matty is one of the world's foremost experts on tokenomics, having led token design efforts for Status.im and advising 50+ projects on their token design to-date. Throughout this episode, we unpack various topics within Matty's open-source guide "Tokenomics for Builders" and ask him to elaborate on some of the key Dos and Don'ts of incentivizing user behavior with tokens. We also cover why historical examples like STEPN and Steemit failed and chat about the importance of sybil resistance in making any design work. This episode is a great primer into the world of tokenomics and is an incredibly useful resource for builders, investors, researchers, and anyone in-between. -        - Time Stamps 0:00 - What are tokenomics 5:27 - Defensibility of web3 network effects 9:30 - Uniswap and Unibot as token models 16:21 - Has Friendtech solved social model 20:57 - Incentivising low vs high frequency activity 26:44 - Overcoming the cold start problem 33:11 - What Stepn got right and wrong 39:53 - Is holder governance a good idea 42:50 - Matty’s current projects 51:06 - Are tokenomics held back by regulation 55:22 - Achieving Sybil resistance 1:00:07 - Are bull runs driven by new tokenomic models 1:04:30 - Which projects have innovated 1:15:23 - What is Matty bearish on 1:17:38 - Tokenomics Design Canvas for builders -        - Podcast Resources Follow Sal: https://twitter.com/Sal_The_Bull Follow Dave: https://twitter.com/SolBeachBum Follow Unlayered: https://twitter.com/UnlayeredPod Subscribe on Spotify, Apple, or Google: https://unlayered.io/ Clips on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@UnlayeredPod -        - Episode Resources Follow Matty Tokenomics : https://twitter.com/MattyTokenomics Tokenomics For Builders :  https://tr.ee/8sTcnRLPTZ Tokenomics Design Canvas : https://tr.ee/fcCeSk9smS Tokenomics Design Playlist : https://tr.ee/Bj9NbTkuQg Multicoin DePIN Tokenomics : https://multicoin.capital/2023/09/21/exploring-the-design-space-of-deping-networks/

In this informal chat, Sal catches up with his good friend and former colleague, Karim Helmy (@karimhelpme). A departure from our typical interview format, this chat covers a wider basket of topics from the perspective of someone who's expertise spans Bitcoin mining, MEV, on-chain data science, and markets infra. Topics of discussion include current market conditions, DeFi vs CeFi, Bitcoin, the rise of Friend.tech, his view on high-performance L1s, and bear market phenomena (among others). -        - Podcast Resources Follow Sal: https://twitter.com/Sal_The_Bull Follow Dave: https://twitter.com/SolBeachBum Follow Unlayered: https://twitter.com/UnlayeredPod Subscribe on Spotify, Apple, or Google: https://unlayered.io/ Clips on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@UnlayeredPod -        - Episode Resources Follow Karim Helmy : https://twitter.com/karimhelpme

In this episode, we chat with Brandon Tucker, head of comms at Marinade Finance, to dive into the world of liquid staking tokens on Solana. In theory, the value prop of LSTs is clear. In practice, only a tiny fraction of staked Solana uses LSTs. Throughout this conversation, we unpack why that is the case and what Marinade is doing to lean into this predominant user behavior on Solana that is much less common on chains like Ethereum. -        - Time Stamps 1:43 - The rise of LSTs  5:59 - Why LST adoption on Sol is so low 12:20 - Should epoch times be longer 15:18 - Marinade governance 20:23 - Marinade business model 16:44 - How to ensure accurate data gathering 25:47 - Centralisation vectors 33:28 - How to get more LST adoption into Sol dapps 39:04 - Competitive landscape from other providers 44:09 - Will Lido exit Sol ecosystem 47:44 - Competiton from centralised players 49:15 - How to bring liquidity back to Sol defi 53:07 - Future of LSTs 58:27 - Marinade roadmap 1:02:20 - What’s the next big thing in crypto -        - Podcast Resources Follow Sal: https://twitter.com/Sal_The_Bull Follow Dave: https://twitter.com/SolBeachBum Follow Unlayered: https://twitter.com/UnlayeredPod Subscribe on Spotify, Apple, or Google: https://unlayered.io/ Clips on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@UnlayeredPod -        - Episode Resources Marinade Native Staking Referral Code : https://marinade.finance/app?ref=s7iob5by Follow Brandon Tucker : https://twitter.com/BrandonTucker Follow Marinade Finance :  https://twitter.com/MarinadeFinance Marinade Website : https://Marinade.Finance

In this episode, we explore the intersection of crypto and real estate. Throughout our conversation with Trevor, Founder and CEO of Parcl Protocol, we learn why bringing DeFi primitives to the $3.69T real estate market is an inevitability and what new behaviors this potent combination enables for end-users. Trevor's wealth of knowledge from his buy side experience on Wall St helps anchor a comprehensive view into where Parcl plans on taking it's unique product-suite next. -        - Time Stamps 0:00 - Sal and Dave opening thoughts  4:24 - Why crypto and real estate 7:54 - Parcl Vs REITs 9:31 - Who would use the product? 11:31 - Why haven’t we seen RE shorting mechanisms before 16:44 - How to ensure accurate data gathering 19:17 - Was Solana the correct choice to deploy 25:03 - How does the DEX operate 28:33 - Surprising findings 30:02 - How to attract liquidity  35:22 - Is this the perfect macro conditions to launch 40:25 - Lack of yield an issue? 43:17 - Hedging benefits 45:25 - Real estate macro view 50:16 - Future of RWA in crypto 53:20 - What’s holding apps back in crypto 56:45 - Future features of Parcl -        - Podcast Resources Follow Sal: https://twitter.com/Sal_The_Bull Follow Dave: https://twitter.com/SolBeachBum Follow Unlayered: https://twitter.com/UnlayeredPod Subscribe on Spotify, Apple, or Google: https://unlayered.io/ Clips on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@UnlayeredPod -        - Episode Resources Follow Trevor Bacon : https://twitter.com/TrevorJBacon Follow Parcl :  https://twitter.com/Parcl Parcl Website : https://app.Parcl.co

Solarplex (fka Dispatch Protocol) has been one of Solana's most successful projects at the intersection of crypto and social. In spite of still being in an invite-only beta, Solarplex's userbase has been on a tear, generating tens of thousands of unique posts each week. During our chat with Viksit, the Founder of Solarplex, we learn about his views on crypto social, Solarplex's unique value proposition to communities, the role of cNFTs in creating novel experiences, and where he sees Solarplex going long-term. -        - Time Stamps 1:05 - Viksit’s background 6:16 - Decision to build Solarplex 11:12 - Why build decentralised social media 16:00 - Business case for opening up social graphs 24:51 - How to attract users from web 2 30:12 - Using digital assets in social media 34:06 - Monetisation from gaining access 35:15 - Roll-out strategy  37:39 - Dealing with bots 40:08 - Decentralised moderation 45:51 - Data storage on-chain 48:36 - Where Solarplex sits within existing social media 53:51 - Future features to be rolled out 58:34 - What has been a surprise -        - Podcast Resources Follow Sal: https://twitter.com/Sal_The_Bull Follow Dave: https://twitter.com/SolBeachBum Follow Unlayered: https://twitter.com/UnlayeredPod Subscribe on Apple: http://apple.co/3VyBSWI Subscribe on Spotify: http://spoti.fi/42q03J2 Subscribe on Google: https://tinyurl.com/5dwn2476 -        - Episode Resources Follow Viksit : https://twitter.com/viksit Viksit’s blog : https://Viksit.com/ Follow Solarplex :  https://twitter.com/solarplex_xyz Solarplex Website : https://Solarplex.xyz