This is the 3rd part in a series of interviews, done every couple of years, with Brent Birckhead, an award-winning artist who writes, composes, and performs on a variety of woodwinds, mostly alto saxophone. Educated at Howard University, Brent was named best blues/pop/rock soloist and outstanding instrumental jazz soloist by Downbeat Magazine as part of the annual Student Music Awards. Since then, he’s received various other awards. He’s also had the honor of performing and touring with legendary artists including Lauryn Hill, Wale, Eric Benet, Larry Graham, George Duke and many more. Brent was also the professor of saxophone at Morgan State University. If you haven’t checked it out, listen to his debut album, Birckhead, and be on the lookout for his followup release.  And be sure to listen to parts 1 and 2, episodes 5 and 6, on The Music Makers. Mentioned: Toni Menage  Nathan East  Steve Ferrone  Episode 5 Brent Birckhead/Saxophonist: A Musician's Journey Part 1 Episode 6 Brent Birckhead/Saxophonist: A Musician's Journey Part 2 Follow The Music Makers:  The Music Makers on Instagram The Music Makers podcast theme song was written and produced by Andy Kushner with help from the rhythm section and horn players of the band, SoundConnection: Elliot Jefferson, Lamonte Silver, Keith Hammond, Roy Lambert, Joe Herrera, and Craig Alston. Sponsor: Kushner Entertainment Check out Andy's Other Podcast: The Wedding Biz

I first interviewed Ina Forsman in September of 2020, the year after she had released an absolutely stellar album, Been Meaning To Tell You. We were five and a half months into the pandemic and public performances had temporarily come to a halt. We went through her journey including her process as a singer, songwriter, and performer as well as some of the songs on her last album. I highly recommend listening to that episode, which was #25. In today’s episode, we talk about what Ina’s been doing since then and get into the recording process and the behind-the-scenes of some of the songs of her upcoming new album release, All There Is.  LINKS & RESOURCES Ina Forsman: Ina’s Website: https://www.inaforsman.com/  Ina on Facebook Ina on Instagram Ina on YouTube   Mentioned: Episode 19 Scottie Baldwin: Award-Winning FOH Sound Engineer for Prince And Other Superstars   Songs discussed during the interview: Be My Home:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5y1gXGsnJzQ Get Mine:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BpP-Rzud8o  Hanging Loose:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yRtxc3G3O8        Follow The Music Makers:  The Music Makers on Instagram The Music Makers podcast theme song was written and produced by Andy Kushner with help from the rhythm section and horn players of the band, SoundConnection: Elliot Jefferson, Lamonte Silver, Keith Hammond, Roy Lambert, Joe Herrera, and Craig Alston. Sponsor: Kushner Entertainment Check out Andy's Other Podcast: The Wedding Biz

Bruce Watson is a lead guitarist best known for playing in the band Foreigner which had multiple hits in the 70’s and 80’s including Hot Blooded, Feels Like The First Time, Urgent, and I Want To Know What Love Is. He also sings, plays mandolin, bass guitar, and slide guitar. Bruce has toured and/or recorded with the likes of Elton John, Rod Stewart, Patti Smyth, B.B. King, and more. LINKS: WEBSITE          foreigneronline.com INSTA                brewswotsin FACEBOOK       https://www.facebook.com/bruce.watson.14

Sean Miles, also known as "Smiles," is one of my favorite musicians who I’ve personally worked with for many years. He is a keyboardist, composer, producer, arranger, and music director. Hailing from the Washington, DC Metropolitan area, Smiles has landed on stages with amazing artists including David Foster, Kenny G, Ginuwine, Estelle, Mya, Angie Stone, Rachelle Ferrell, Biz Markie, Phil Lassiter, and many more.  Music link: https://koji.to/smileslife   Social Media handle: https://www.instagram.com/tv/CV27TZeMq92/?utm_medium=copy_link

Benny Pough, CEO of D. Verse Media, is one of today’s successful and innovative business leaders and has helped shape the sound and culture of music worldwide, having been instrumental in delivering radio hits for superstar artists such as Jay-Z, Rihanna, Kanye West, Travis Scott, DJ Khaled, Future, and 21 Savage. He held executive positions at powerhouse labels from Motown Records and Def Jam to Epic Records and Roc Nation Music. He has since formed D. Verse Media, a full service global music distribution and publishing company. Some of the awards, he’s received, are In 2019, he was awarded Record Executive of the Year by Power of Influence Awards. In 2018, he was awarded Record Exec of the Year by Urban One Honors. And the title Hitmaker, in 2017, by Variety Magazine. We go deep in this conversation and be sure to look out for his Book, On Impact, which will be published in the middle of 2022.     Links: Instagram: @bennypough (https://www.instagram.com/bennypough/)  Website: www.bennypough.com Website: www.dversemedia.com

As a grammy-award winning trumpet player, flugelhorn, french hornist, arranger, and keyboard player, CJ Camerieri has become an indispensable collaborator for numerous indie rock groups as a performer, arranger, improviser, and soloist and is a co-founder of the contemporary classical ensemble yMusic. He has toured and/or recorded with numerous major artists including Bon Iver, Paul Simon, Rufus Wainwright, Sean Lennon, Sufjan Stevens, The Plastic Ono Band, David Byrne, Indgrid Michaelson, Joan Osborne, and more. Links: https://www.cjtrumpet.com  https://merch.ambientinks.com/products/preorder-carm-lp Instagram - Carm_band  Website - Carm.band

Ryan Lerman has toured the world as a bassist for Ben Folds, guitarist for Michael Buble, and guitarist/string arranger/musical director for John Legend. He’s also toured with Vanessa Carlton, Joshua Radin, Tallest Man On Earth, and more as guitarist, bassist, singer, music director and arranger. As a songwriter, his compositions have been recorded by Vulfpeck, Buble, and others. He’s also one half of the creative team behind YouTube sensations Scary Pockets, with over 230 million views!  He has released three solo records under his own name with Pinstripes, The Sky (2012), Friends (2017), and Noisy Feelings (2019). We talk about all that and also the struggle that all or most artists go through in terms of feeling and retaining a comfortable sense of well-being and self-confidence. It’s a great conversation! 

Today’s special guest is guitarist Andy Timmons. As guitarist for pop-metal band Danger Danger, he toured the world opening for Kiss and Alice Cooper, sold over a million records worldwide, and had two #1 videos on MTV, plus amassing a discography that includes 7 solo releases. As a session player, he’s been featured on recordings by drumming legend Simon Phillips, two internationally acclaimed CDs by Kip Winger, recording sessions for Paula Abdul, Paul Stanley, and countless radio and television jingles. Andy has also been Olivia Newton-John’s music director and guitarist for several U.S. tours. He’s also played alongside many of his heroes such as Steve Vai and Joe Satriani, Eric Johnson, Steve Morse, Mike Stern, Ace Frehley, Ted Nugent, the Beach Boys, and Lesley Gore. Andy has been consistently voted a “Top 20 Favorite Guitarist” in most of Japan’s rock music magazine’s reader polls, as well as being voted “Musician of the Year” four years in a row in the acclaimed Dallas Observer Music Awards. LINKS: Andy Timmons Guitar X Perience - Andy Timmons Guitar X Perience Instagram: Andytimmonsoffcial You Tube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCakeANwiMEjNlbdAzcpk9QA MENTIONED - Jeff Babco #37 Shep Gordon #41

Today's episode is sponsored by the Academy of Country Music at www.acmcountry.com  Brad Hill is a producer, engineer, composer, and musician based out of Nashville. He has a Grammy nomination for Country Album of the Year as well as CMA and Academy of Country Music nominations for Album of the Year, all for co-producing Maren Morris’s debut album, Hero. Brad has produced songs for numerous artists including Maren Morris, Kameron Marlowe, Brothers Osborne, Brett Young, Josh Gracin, and more. We first met when he brilliantly produced an original of mine, I Will Be Your Memory, which was featured on an award-winning podcast produced by Transmitter FM for NBC.     Brad's IG: @bradhillmusic Mentioned: Beth Laird (episode #16) Lori McKenna (#20) Barry Dean (#51) I Will Be Your Memory, written by Andy Kushner featuring Sammy Arriaga and produced by Brad Hill - found on all streaming platforms and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MT7QGOz1VUg  Dear Hate, Maren Morris - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUPR5-igTVY Giving You Up, Kameron Marlowe - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84AyrbjCu9Q

Trumpeter Brad Clements has recorded and/or performed with numerous major artists including Prince, Chuck Brown, Bootsy Collins, Aretha Franklin, Larry Graham, Kenny G, and Thievery Corporation. He also owns and runs B&B Music Lessons, which creates systems music teachers can use so they can focus on their craft and further hone their skills as well as help students find the best teachers available.   https://www.bnbmusiclessons.com/ https://www.facebook.com/brad.clements.77/ https://www.instagram.com/bradclementstrumpet/ Mentioned: Greg Boyer (Episode #15) SoundConnection   The Music Makers podcast theme song was written and produced by Andy Kushner with help from the rhythm section and horn players of the band, SoundConnection: Elliot Jefferson, Lamonte Silver, Keith Hammond, Roy Lambert, Joe Herrera, and Craig Alston. Sponsor: Kushner Entertainment    Check out Andy's Other Podcast: The Wedding Biz

Barry Dean is a hit country and pop songwriter with four #1 singles and various other cuts and/or hits recorded by Little Big Town, Michael Ray, Jon Pardi, Ingrid Michaelson, Tim McGraw & Faith Hill, George Strait, Blake Shelton, Carrie Underwood, Kenny Chesney, Toby Keith, and many more. In addition to various songwriting awards, Barry earned a Grammy nomination for Tim McGraw’s “Diamond Rings and Old Barstools.” Links instagram is: @thebarrydean Mentioned Lori McKenna (#20) Beth Laird (#16)

Rob Wells is a multi-platinum, award-winning producer/songwriter based in Canada, and is the other half of the writing/production team The Fourth Floor with singer, songwriter & recording artist Shobha. Rob has worked with Ariana Grande, Justin Bieber, Selena Gomez, Adam Lambert, Katharine McPhee, the Backstreet Boys, Nelly Furtado, Desmond Child, Cyndi Lauper, Corey Hart, & many others. His work has been featured in numerous films, television shows, commercials and video games worldwide. Rob has appeared as a music producer on "Canadian Idol", "The House Of Carters" & "The Next Star". His awards include first place in numerous songwriting competitions, and SOCAN #1 awards with gold, platinum & multi-platinum certifications. He also has his own label and teaches hundreds of students. WEBSITE: www.sharp9music.com IG: @robwmusic    Follow The Music Makers:  The Music Makers on Instagram   The Music Makers podcast theme song was written and produced by Andy Kushner with help from the rhythm section and horn players of the band, SoundConnection.   Sponsor: Kushner Entertainment  Check out Andy's Other Podcast: The Wedding Biz

Khaliq Glover, also known as Khaliq-O-Vision, is a grammy award winning recording engineer, mixing engineer, producer, and songwriter based in LA. Khaliq was 1st engineer on records by Jermaine Jackson, Donna Summer, Kenny Rogers, Jeffrey Osborne, and many more. He was also one of the engineers to work on the We Are The World project produced by Quincy Jones with an all star cast including Michael Jackson, Lionel Richie, Stevie Wonder, Ray Charles, Bruce Springsteen, Bob Dylan, Diana Ross, and many others. More recent projects include working with Prince and Justin Timberlake. He also worked with Herbie Hancock for his collaboration CD, Possibilities, with artists including John Mayer, Christina Aguilera, Stevie Wonder, Santana, Sting, and others.  www.khaliq-o-vision.com 

Sylver Logan Sharp was the former lead singer of the legendary group CHIC, w/Nile Rodgers & the late, Bernard Edwards for 20 years! She also recorded and/or performed with Kid Rock, Slash, Elton John, and numerous others. She also had a #1 hit with Jonathan Peters. Andy has seen Sylver perform numerous times and says she’s one of his favorite singers and performers…she’s a true dynamo! Sylver also has her own Jewelry line called Sylverwear with many celebrity clients. sylverlogansharp.com http://sylverwear.com Virtual performances: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5UmrKmidoU4fErUYUwRh1w 

Martin Sutton is a multi-platinum British songwriter, record producer, mixer, multi-instrumentalist, programmer, and songwriting coach and mentor living and working in the United Kingdom. He has worked with many major artists worldwide including LeAnn Rimes, Céline Dion, Backstreet Boys, Olivia Newton-John, Gary Barlow, Mike + The Mechanics, K-pop superstars Super Junior, The X Factor and American Idol winners, and more! He is also the founder of The Songwriting Academy with an incredible faculty of industry professionals all under one roof! The Songwriting Academy provides students with courses that provide the skills, guidance, contacts, and advice to further anyone's career in the music industry. Even though Martin grew up in Norfolk in England, which he notes as not being much of a musical hotspot, he still had music and a love and passion for it in his blood. He talks about that and how he got into music and songwriting, and also discusses the Songwriting Academy and how it is unique in what it offers, his Clubhouse rooms and what they have to offer, what a successful collaboration is to him, what kind of music he grew up on and who influenced him, what the very first record was that he ever purchased, how success doesn't mean the same thing to everyone, the importance of finding the appropriate balance between lyrics and melody, how he tries to do everything that he does as a songwriter and as a creator with authenticity, and so much more! This conversation with Martin is a great one for anyone who wants to take their career in music and songwriting to the next level. Andy had such a great time chatting with Martin and hopes that listeners will enjoy listening in! He would be very appreciative if you would help build the community by sharing this podcast with friends and fellow musicians and lovers of music! A great review would also be very helpful and appreciated!   Show Highlights: [0:10] – Andy gives us some information about today's guest, Martin Sutton. [1:23] – Martin describes his Clubhouse rooms and what they offer. [4:01] – Andy and Martin chat about what Nathan East said about the influence of the hang and collaborating. [6:44] – Martin describes where he grew up and how he got into songwriting. [8:05] – We discover who some of Martin's musical influences are and how Martin has always loved melancholy songs. [10:17] – Martin discusses his growing years as a songwriter, citing Donovan, Simon & Garfunkel, James Taylor, and Joni Mitchell as some of his biggest influences. [11:49] – Martin talks about his prior publishing deal with Universal Music. [13:51] – Martin stresses the importance of relationships and who you work with. [16:07] – Martin reveals how and why he established The Songwriting Academy. [19:00] – Martin describes the planning process behind the Songwriting Academy. [21:59] – Martin describes the Songwriting Academy as a unique experience and explains what makes it unique. [25:02] – We learn about some of the most common mistakes that songwriters make according to Martin. [27:16] – Martin asserts that songs need to have contrast between sections rather than be too linear. [29:09] – Martin emphasizes the importance of sequential repetition in music. [31:30] – Martin argues that there are certain actions that songwriters can take to strengthen a song. [34:44] – Martin comments on how to deal with insecurity as a songwriter. [37:50] – Martin reveals three questions that he asks himself in order to help curb his tendency to compare himself to other songwriters. [40:20] – Whenever Martin creates music, he says, he does so for the right reasons, and he delineates what those reasons are. [41:18] – Andy and Martin enthuse over the cathartic element of writing songs and the joy that can be found in it.   LINKS & RESOURCES The Songwriting Academy - Website Clubhouse Group: @martinsutton Clubhouse Group: @thesongwritingacademy Martin’s Instagram Page Mentioned in this Episode: The Music Makers - Episode 46 Nathan East: Premier Bass Player with Over 2000 Recordings! Olivia Newton-John – "Pass It On"   Follow The Music Makers: The Music Makers on Instagram   The Music Makers podcast theme song was written and produced by Andy Kushner with help from the rhythm section and horn players of the band, SoundConnection.   Sponsor: Kushner Entertainment Check out Andy's Other Podcast: The Wedding Biz

With over 2,000 recordings, Nathan East is considered one of the most recorded bass players in history! He is a founding member of the GRAMMY-nominated contemporary jazz band Fourplay and has recorded, performed, and/or co-written songs with a huge number of major artists including Michael Jackson, Beyoncé, Stevie Wonder, Eric Clapton, Peter Gabriel, Whitney Houston, George Harrison, Ringo Starr, Phil Collins, Toto, Daft Punk, Chick Corea, Herbie Hancock, The Bee Gees, Steve Winwood, Elton John, Quincy Jones, Earth Wind & Fire, Savage Garden, Sting, Michael McDonald, The Isley Brothers, Joe Satriani, and that's just some of them! The list goes on and on! You should also be aware that Nathan has released two incredible solo albums, with the most recent being Reverence in 2017 which hit the #1 spot on both the Jazz albums and the Contemporary Jazz albums Billboards charts. Nathan discusses his earliest memory of music moving him emotionally and also describes his innate musical ability as a gift and one of the first miracles of his life. He reflects on his first major break having worked with Barry White and where he went from there. He enthusiastically describes his experiences having worked with artists like Quincy Jones, Chick Corea, Whitney Houston, Phil Collins, Michael Jackson, Michael McDonald, and others, and he talks about topics such as the differences between touring and recording, whether or not his mindset changes between recording different genres of music, whether or not he struggles with any difficulties in his profession, and how the COVID-19 pandemic has impacted him. He closes by briefly touching upon his work as a teacher via the Nathan East Online School of Bass out of ArtistWorks, humbly asserting that he still learns plenty by teaching. Andy describes his chat with Nathan East as an incredible conversation and really appreciated this opportunity to talk to Nathan. He would be very appreciative if you would help build the community by sharing this podcast with friends and fellow musicians and lovers of music! A great review would also be very helpful and appreciated! Show Highlights: [0:10] – Andy gives us some background information on Nathan East. [2:38] – Nathan shares his earliest memory of being emotionally moved by music. [3:14] – We learn that Nathan was only sixteen when he got his first big break playing with Barry White. [4:28] – Nathan discusses his stint with Quincy Jones playing on Michael Jackson’s Off The Wall album. [6:02] – Nathan shares where he believes musical ability at such a young age comes from. [7:45] – Nathan justifies why he lists Paul McCartney as an influence on him as a bassist. [9:16] – We discover how Nathan went about finding his signature sound as a bass player. [11:04] – Nathan reflects on his general approach and mindset when he is playing in a more supportive role and shares what his experience working with Whitney Houston was like. [13:45] – Andy and Nathan discuss a quote that is on Nathan's website about how Nathan loves the element of surprise when it comes to the recording process. [15:20] – Nathan expounds upon the touring process and how it differs from recording and talks about having worked with Chick Corea. [18:05] – Andy and Nathan enthuse over Nathan's work with Phil Collins. [19:38] – Nathan details the process of having co-written “Easy Lover,” recorded by Phil Collins. [22:09] – We hear about Nathan's collaboration with Michael Jackson. [24:27] – Nathan tells Andy about his experience having worked with Stevie Wonder. [26:00] – We learn about Nathan's collaboration with Peter Gabriel. [26:41] – Nathan recounts his work on a Beyoncé song and working with David Foster. [27:51] – Nathan praises Michael McDonald's artistry and personality. [28:54] – Nathan describes his process of writing instrumental pieces. [30:16] – We hear Nathan discuss some of his favorite drummers and what elements make a drummer especially good. [32:56] – Nathan offers advice to young people who might want to become musicians like he is, asserting that every single note you play should be important. [34:40] – Andy and Nathan have a conversation about the COVID-19 pandemic and how it affected Nathan. [37:40] – We learn who Nathan will likely be touring with in 2022. [39:35] – Nathan discusses and describes what kind of gear he is currently using to play bass. [40:52] – Nathan enthusiastically states that there is still plenty for him to learn and gives his students at ArtistWorks a nod. LINKS & RESOURCES Nathan’s Website Nathan’s Facebook Page ArtistWorks - Website Mentioned in this Episode: The Music Makers – Episode 45 Steve Ferrone: Celebrity Session and Touring Drummer Smokey Robinson & the Miracles - “More Love” The Beatles - “Nowhere Man” Whitney Houston - “Saving All My Love for You” Whitney Houston - “The Greatest Love of All” Hubert Laws - “Ravel's Bolero” Phil Collins - “Easy Lover” Michael Jackson - “I Just Can't Stop Loving You” Stevie Wonder - “Overjoyed” Beyoncé - “Listen” Lee Ritenour - “Mr. Briefcase” Nathan East & Michael McDonald - “Moondance”   Follow The Music Makers: The Music Makers on Instagram   The Music Makers podcast theme song was written and produced by Andy Kushner with help from the rhythm section and horn players of the band, SoundConnection.   Sponsor: Kushner Entertainment   Check out Andy's Other Podcast: The Wedding Biz  

Steve Ferrone has recorded and/or toured as a drummer with numerous high profile acts, including Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers from 1994 until now, Average White Band for eight years, George Harrison, Duran Duran, Stevie Nicks, Slash, Chaka Khan, Eric Clapton, The Bee Gees, Johnny Cash, Bryan Ferry, Peter Frampton, Whitney Houston, Pat Metheny, Marcus Miller, Steve Winwood, Paul Simon, and Jaco Pastorius – and that's just some of the acts he's been with! This was a blast of a conversation because Steve has so many great stories. He talks about his work with The Average White Band, Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers, Chaka Khan, Eric Clapton, George Harrison, and Michael Jackson. He also talks about some of his favorite bass players and more! Steve was actually a tap dancer at a young age. He was only twelve years old, and he shares how that inadvertently led to his first drumming gig. He explains how he found his sound, as a drummer, and the journey that led him to where he is today. Despite the fact that Steve has played drums on a lot of classic hits from artists such as Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers (with whom he has worked for more than twenty-five years!), Chaka Khan, Michael Jackson, and so many others, he definitely maintains a certain level of modesty, presenting the possibility that a hit with which he was involved “was already a hit and I got to play on it.” He also discusses the advent of the drum machine and electronic drums and how they initially made some drummers panic thinking that their work would become obsolete. He shares his own feelings on electronic drums and gives examples of times when he maintained the value of organic drums over electronic ones, such as when he worked on “Earth Song” by Michael Jackson. Andy and Steve also talk a little about the COVID-19 pandemic and how it affected musicians, with Steve detailing what his life and profession have been like ever since the breakout of the pandemic. He remains optimistic and hopeful that an end to the pandemic is in sight but also clarifies that he is grateful for that which he has been able to hold onto in his life. Having worked with so many high profile musicians, Steve definitely has a lot of great stories to share and makes for a very fascinating guest on the podcast!   Show Highlights: [00:10] Andy gives some background information on Steve Ferrone and his career so far as a high profile drummer. [2:06] – Steve reveals where his passion for drumming comes from and shares what some of his hobbies were as a child. [5:00] – Steve reveals how he scored his first drumming gig. [7:14] – We learn how Steve found his sound as a musician. [10:19] – Steve talks about what his process is like preparing for recording in the studio. [12:27] – Steve shares the story of having worked with Duran Duran on their “Ordinary World” song. [15:18] – Steve reflects on how he feels about many musicians today playing their parts separately and sending them in rather than all being in the same room playing together. [18:55] – Steve hones in on an important lesson that he learned from Arif Mardin. [22:03] – Steve looks back on his time with The Average White Band. [22:38] – Steve and Andy discuss Tom Petty and what it was like for Steve to work with him. [24:34] – Steve talks about his time with Chaka Khan. [27:40] – Steve explains how his collaboration with Eric Clapton came about. [30:45] – We learn how Steve led a very busy life while touring with Eric Clapton because he was touring with him and with Duran Duran. [32:45] – Andy and Steve enthuse over Phil Collins' phenomenal drumming work. [35:38] – Steve talks about electronic drums and how they were incorporated into “I Feel for You” by Chaka Khan. [36:42] – Steve narrates how he came to work with George Harrison. [38:47] – Steve explains how George Harrison might hold the record for most expensive recording session ever. [41:56] – Steve describes his experiences working with different bass players. [44:00] – We learn that the business side of things is Steve's least favorite aspect of his job. [44:57] – Steve describes his experience working on “Earth Song” by Michael Jackson. [48:35] – Andy and Steve talk about what Steve is looking forward to now that we're reaching the end of the COVID-19 pandemic. [50:25] – Steve describes an experience that he had recording a project during the pandemic. [52:05] – Steve looks forward to the day when the pandemic is over but remains grateful for what he has in his life now even in a pandemic. [54:22] – Steve talks a little bit about his jazz group, The Coffee Shop Trio, and how they play.   LINKS & RESOURCES Steve Ferrone - Website Mentioned in this Episode: The Music Makers - Episode 37: Jeff Babko: Keyboardist Extraordinaire & Keeping the Channels Wide Open Duran Duran - “Ordinary World” Chaka Khan - “I'm Every Woman” Chaka Khan - “I Feel for You” Phil Collins - “Easy Lover” Michael Jackson - “Earth Song”   Follow The Music Makers: The Music Makers on Instagram   The Music Makers podcast theme song was written and produced by Andy Kushner with help from the rhythm section and horn players of the band, SoundConnection.   Sponsor: Kushner Entertainment   Check out Andy's Other Podcast: The Wedding Biz  

Joe Galante has held several executive roles at various companies including being the youngest person to run a major country record label, RCA’s Nashville division. He later became the chairman of BMG Music Group and later of Sony Music Group. He is noted for his role in developing the careers of Dolly Parton, Waylon Jennings, Kenny Chesney, Brad Paisley, Alabama, Martina McBride, Vince Gill, Clint Black, Miranda Lambert, the Judds and many, many more. He has spent a lifetime impacting the world of country music and has so many stories to tell. From his earliest memories of listening to the Beatles to starting his own band, he’s always been influenced by music. He never thought he’d be working in the industry though. After leaving college with degrees in marketing and finance, he connected with his first record company and has been making moves and waves in the industry ever since. One of his very first experiences with acts was with Waylon Jennings. Despite having a fantastic tour following, Waylon hadn’t had a great deal of radio play. Joe stepped in and helped build Waylon into a country music star. Listen as we chat about his work with Dolly Parton, Clint Black, Alabama, The Judds, Vince Gil, Ronnie Milsap, The Dave Matthews Band, and more. Even better, Joe digs into how the industry has grown, changed, and evolved over the years. Has it been for the better or worse? It’s hard to tell, but it has definitely changed and both Andy and Joe miss the time of creating true music classics. This was a fantastic interview filled with amazing insights into the past, present, and future of the music industry. Listen in to hear it all.   Show Highlights: [00:10] Andy shares a bit about Joe’s background and experience in the industry.  [01:24] Which project was his favorite to work on with producer, Mark Wright?  [01:53] What is Joe’s earliest memory of being moved by music?  [02:47] How did he find out about all of the artists that moved him at an early age?  [05:11] Was he always interested in getting into the industry or did he happen into the business?  [06:33] How does he look back on his rapid rise through the ranks?  [08:39] What were some of his big epiphanies that changed the industry?  [11:39] Joe’s thoughts on building and managing a successful team.  [13:02] How did his turnover rate affect his reputation?  [14:33] What was his approach to developing and nurturing artists?  [16:50] Learn about his time working with Waylon Jennings.  [20:00] Additional thoughts on Waylon Jennings and artist relationships.  [21:01] How he approached building and promoting Alabama.  [22:03] Joe talks about helping Ronnie Milsap crossover into various music genres.  [23:22] Listen as Joe dives into his experiences with Dolly Parton and her career.  [25:11] What did he see in The Judds that other representatives didn’t?  [27:07] How did he help Vince Gill promote as country music shifted and changed?  [29:29] From country to ZZ Top, The Dave Matthews Band, and Wu Tang Clan. [34:00] What was his relationship like with producers?  [35:23] His thoughts on how songwriting has evolved.  [39:30] What has changed over the years with the number of writers on songs?  [43:52] How does he look at the business as a whole today?  [50:59] Joe shares how he’s spending his time now.   LINKS & RESOURCES Joe Galante: Wikipedia   Mentioned in this Episode: Episode 39 Mark Wright: Hit Producer & Songwriter   Follow The Music Makers:  The Music Makers on Instagram The Music Makers podcast theme song was written and produced by Andy Kushner with help from the rhythm section and horn players of the band, SoundConnection. Sponsor: Kushner Entertainment Check out Andy's Other Podcast: The Wedding Biz

Kevin Antunes has served as musical director, designer, and keyboardist to some of the biggest artists and musical events in history, including Madonna, Michael Jackson, Justin Timberlake, Rhianna, Brittney Spears, Shakira, Janet Jackson and N’Sync. He’s also performed at the Grammy Awards, Academy Awards, and Super Bowl Half-Time Shows. Listen as he shares about his journey, inspiration, and experiences.   Kevin grew up in a musically-minded family. In fact, both his father and brother were and are also in the industry. Kevin always knew that he wanted music to be a part of his life for the long haul. Little did he know his career would start off with a bang.   Another thing he always knew would be a part of his life was college. He went to a prestigious music school, but while studying was presented with the opportunity to tour with New Kids on the Block. He took it and later resumed his studies.    Kevin has had some amazing experiences working with huge names in the industry. He’s sharing what it was like working with several superstars including Justin Timberlake, Rihanna, why he believes Madonna is one of the hardest working people in the industry, and the difference between a music director and designer.    His stories are fantastic and the humble and kind air with which he approaches his life and career are inspiring. Listen in to learn more about the industry from one of the greats!   Show Highlights:   [00:10] Kevin Antunes has served as musical director, designer, and keyboardist to some of the biggest artists in history. Learn more! [01:20] Learn more about how Andy and Kevin met on Clubhouse and why they both like it so much.  [02:44] What was the first moment that he remembers being moved by music?  [04:45] Did he go to college for music?  [05:46] How he started working with the New Kids on the Block.  [08:39] Arena shows were challenging but fun.  [10:04] What did he do after New Kids on the Block?  [11:52] Did he turn down opportunities to go back to school?  [13:10] Kevin talks about his post-school experiences.  [16:57] Why he enjoyed the early years in the record industry side. [20:01] How he started working with N’Sync.  [21:59] What has it been like working with Madonna?  [25:49] More about working with Justin Timberlake.  [28:29] The difference between a Music Designer and Music Director and his experience with the Michael Jackson estate.  [33:43] Sound is so important to music and working on the Cirque du Soleil show, ONE in Vegas, was a whole other experience. Listen to learn more! [35:19] What it was like getting to perform with Stevie Wonder. [39:18] Andy shares his desire to know what’s in the vault for Stevie Wonder, but Kevin has a different perspective on the vault concept.  [41:06] Why it was fun performing with Snoop Dogg.  [44:07] What was his experience like when working with John Mayer and Rhianna?  [47:20] How he’s integrated the music with the business aspect of the industry.  [49:07] Work ethic and discipline are important but so is honesty.  [50:22] Why he still struggles with imposter syndrome despite his experience.  [51:42] Kevin shares his first tip for those who are looking to break into the business.  [54:24] What’s he excited about and looking forward to?   LINKS & RESOURCES   Kevin Antunes: Kevin on Instagram Kevin on Twitter Kevin on IMDB   Follow The Music Makers:  The Music Makers on Instagram   The Music Makers podcast theme song was written and produced by Andy Kushner with help from the rhythm section and horn players of the band, SoundConnection.   Sponsor: Kushner Entertainment    Check out Andy's Other Podcast: The Wedding Biz  

Victor Indrizzo is a prolific, L.A. based studio session drummer and touring musician. He has recorded and/or toured with the likes of Alanis Morissette, Beck, Queens of the Stone Age, Avril Lavigne, Chris Cornell, Macy Gray, Lizzo, Willie Nelson, Sheryl Crow, Meatloaf, Rob Thomas, and many more. He’s also worked on film soundtracks including Spiderman, The Matrix Reloaded, The 40-Year Old Virgin, Charlie’s Angels, Get Him to the Greek, and more. Victor is truly a brilliant drummer and musician. His drive to keep learning and to keep getting better are what set him apart from the crowd. From a very early age, he was drawn to and inspired by great music. His mom told him that he tried to run away when he was five and the only thing he took with him was his record player. He was also constantly using his imagination to make music. His mom got him toy drum kits but he didn’t get a real one until he was much older. He credits those years for his ability to listen to music and piece out the emotion in a song. Victor is a force to be reckoned with in the music industry. His stories of working with big names like Alanis Morissette, Beck, and Willie Nelson are amazing to hear. Listen in to hear all of his stories and his advice for up and coming musicians.   Show Highlights: [00:10] Andy gives a quick and illustrative run down of Victor’s many music and film credits. [01:33] What are some of the projects that he and keyboardist,Jeff Babko have worked on together? [02:17] Does he remember when he was first touched with the music bug?  [04:40] Why he loves and appreciates Stevie Wonder and his unbelievable talent. [06:21] When did he get his first drum set?  [08:13] Victor relates his first experiences playing in bands and his first real break.  [10:10] Why he loves sessions versus touring. [11:06] When did he find his voice and unique drumming style? [12:09] His approach to finding the meaning of a song. [13:28] How does he communicate with the artists before they play together? [15:29] How does he feel about the change in the recording process due to Covid? [17:00] What is it like working with Alanis Morissette? [19:20] Learn why all of his artist and touring experiences are amazing. [22:10] Victor recounts playing with Macy Gray and why it was a dream. [23:19] Playing with Beck was his education.  [26:36] His favorite bass players and why. [28:07] Learn who his favorite drummers are.  [30:16] The most important aspects of honing your skills and his recommendations for up and coming musicians. [31:28] What are the hardest parts of what he does and does he still have struggles?  [33:18] Ways to manage your down time and still be productive. [34:38] How has addiction and recovery affected his work?  [37:02] What’s his favorite equipment these days?  [39:20] Why it’s important as a drummer to delve into other instruments. [40:06] His version of satisfaction and whether or not he’s gotten there.  [41:25] Is he learning any new big skills?   LINKS & RESOURCES Victor Indrizzo: Victor’s Website Victor on Instagram New sample pack on yurtrock.com   Mentioned in the Episode: Episode 37 Jeff Babko: Keyboardist Extraordinaire & Keeping The Channels Wide Open   Follow The Music Makers:  The Music Makers on Instagram The Music Makers podcast theme song was written and produced by Andy Kushner with help from the rhythm section and horn players of the band, SoundConnection. Sponsor: Kushner Entertainment Check out Andy's Other Podcast: The Wedding Biz

Shep Gordon is an icon in the music and film industry and a marketing mastermind for his clients. Some of his notable clients include Alice Cooper, Teddy Pendegrass, Luther Vandross, Kenny Loggins, Anne Murray, Emeril Lagasse, Roger Verge, Wolfgang Puck, Nobu Matsuhisa, and Groucho Marx. He’s also produced films like Kiss Of The Spiderwoman and Stop Making Sense. Shep has an autobiography called They Call Me Supermensch: A Backstage Pass ot the Amazing Worlds of Film, Food, and Rock ‘n Roll. And Mike Myers produced a documentary about him called Supermensch. Shep’s ideas and marketing antics are well-known and helped bring fame and notoriety to many of his clients, most notably Alice Cooper. This isn’t just another interview. Andy is digging deep into Shep’s thoughts on his long and storied career. For instance, his entire outlook on his career took shape after one amazing college prank. After taking some “black beauties” with his friends, they came up with an elaborate prank announcing the arrival of a supposed foreign dignitary. Soon the papers picked up the story when one of his friends was dressing up as this esteemed person. It was then that Shep learned that we have the ability to write history. It’s all in the delivery of the information. That one prank led to a long list of marketing stunts specifically designed to elevate and lengthen the careers of his clients, including Alice Cooper. Listen as Shep shares stories from his past and how they’ve informed his present. Not only has he come through Covid and all that it entails, but he’s also a brand new dad. To say that he’s had some huge shifts in perspective lately would certainly be an understatement. Though he’s been interviewed many times before, this is one Shep Gordon exclusive you won’t want to miss.   Show Highlights: [00:10] Shep Gordon is the greatest manager of all time. Period. Learn more! [01:36] Welcome Shep to the show and learn what drew him to Maui.  [04:02] He shares what he learned from Roger Verge about food, marketing, life, and business. [07:18] How Mr. Verge’s views on service and compassion impacted Shep’s career.  [10:15] Why a college prank completely changed the trajectory of his career.  [13:40] Are there any major marketing stunts that stick out in his memory?  [17:22] Hear the story behind a huge balloon of Alice Cooper coming down the Thames.  [20:04] What’s a good recent epiphany he’s had to boost Alice’s presence?  [22:10] Has he ever had any periods of doubt in his music and film career?  [23:52] Shep shares one of his worst ideas ever.  [27:16] Which led to his second worst idea ever.  [31:00] Does he listen to music these days?  [32:39] How has Covid affected him and his work?  [34:26] Has he made any huge changes due to Covid?  [36:44] His advice for managers looking to reach that top level.  [38:42] Why gratitude is so important and what he’s looking forward to as Covid lets up.    LINKS & RESOURCES The Obstacle is the Way by Ryan Holiday Shep Gordon: Purchase or rent Shep's Supermensch Documentary: https://www.amazon.com/Supermensch-Shep-Gordon/dp/B00MYJHUGC/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=supermensch&qid=1615923010&sr=8-1 Purchase the audiobook for Supermensch: https://www.amazon.com/They-Call-Me-Supermensch-audiobook/dp/B01IA7MVLK/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=supermensch+book&qid=1615923090&sr=8-1 Shep on Instagram Alice Cooper’s Website - alicecooper.com   Follow The Music Makers:  The Music Makers on Instagram The Music Makers podcast theme song was written and produced by Andy Kushner with help from the rhythm section and horn players of the band, SoundConnection. Sponsor: Kushner Entertainment Check out Andy's Other Podcast: The Wedding Biz

Born the daughter of legendary producer and arranger Don Costa, Nikka was destined to be an industry name to be reckoned with. She’s been a recording artist since she was five years old and created her debut album at the tender age of eight. As she grew into her interests and her voice, she knew that R&B, blues, and funk were her passions and she’s since merged them to create a unique sound and style all her own.    Andy and Nikka are chatting all about how he found her and her work with their mutual connection Jeff Babko. Jeff helped to arrange and produce her most recent album Nikka & Strings, her take on some of the biggest songs in history.    Nikka also shares what it was like maturing in the music business and why it was artists like Prince who helped her to find her space and to keep growing. She recalls how Prince mentored her and talks about performing with him.    Listen as Nikka and Andy discuss three of her amazing albums, Everybody Got Their Something, Can’t Never Did Nothin’, and Nikka & Strings, as well as her writing style and what’s coming up next for her as an artist and a mother. This was a fascinating conversation that you truly won’t want to miss.   Show Highlights:   [00:10] How Andy first learned about Nikka Costa and more about background and experience. [01:35] Nikka’s experience working with Jeff Babko on Nikka & Strings. [03:20] Her dad had sheet music on the original arrangement of Frank Sinatra’s version of Come Rain Or Come Shine.  [06:20] Learn about the emotions she experienced while recording Lover You Should Have Come Over.  [08:41] Is it more difficult to record other people’s songs than ones that she’s written?  [09:25] Andy shares his first experience hearing Nikka’s music. [10:42] How did Everybody Got Their Something come about?  [14:49] Was she happy with the level that the album took her to?  [16:39] The story behind meeting and working with Prince. [19:58] Stories about how Prince’s mentorship affected her career and growth.  [21:52] What was it like performing with Prince?  [24:37] Why was there a four year gap between albums?  [26:36] Nikka shares more about her writing process. [30:35] Have other artists recorded her songs?  [31:39] Why she loves being on stage and creating a true show.  [34:14] Is there anything that she still struggles with as an artist?  [36:47] What has she been doing since her last project?  [38:47] How has Covid impacted her life and work?   LINKS & RESOURCES   Nikka Costa: Nikka’s Website Nikka on FacebookNikka on Twitter Nikka on InstagramNikka on YouTube   Youtube links for songs discussed: Everybody Got Their Something https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyeoW4ifNik  Push And Pull with Prince https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oim3QKCEApc  Happy In The Morning https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EgCC81cD80  Come Rain Or Come Shine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDNHbWQGqiY  Lover You Should Have Come Over https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSBmm12zL2w     Episodes Mentioned:  Episode 37 Jeff Babko: Keyboardist Extraordinaire & Keeping The Channels Wide Open     Follow The Music Makers:  The Music Makers on Instagram   The Music Makers podcast theme song was written and produced by Andy Kushner with help from the rhythm section and horn players of the band, SoundConnection.   Sponsor: Kushner Entertainment    Check out Andy's Other Podcast: The Wedding Biz  

Mark Wright has to his credit tens of millions of units in sales, if not more, and a huge number of number one singles that he wrote, published, or produced as well as several major awards. He grew up loving the business of music. Mark’s father was a music director for schools in his local area and he was a member of the All State Choir. He chose to continue studying music when he went to college and then went right into the industry immediately after graduation.   He knew that his life was going to be dedicated to music. Mark started his career as a songwriter and later realized that his favorite part of the process was the production. He spent the next several decades helping artists realize their vision of having hit records including Reba McEntire, Clint Black, Amy Grant, Kenny Rogers, George Strait, Mark Chesnutt, Lee Ann Womack, and Rhett Akins.   Show Highlights:   [00:10] Learn about Mark Wright’s industry credits and accolades.  [02:39] Mark shares the highlights of his early days learning music.  [04:12] Who did he listen to growing up?  [05:00] Did he know what he wanted to do when he went to Belmont College?  [07:27] How did he start out in the industry?  [09:59] Mark chats about his first publishing experience. [10:53] What happened between his songwriting stint and his transition to production? [12:20] Did he have a signature in his production process?  [14:58] As a producer how involved did he get in the song arrangement?  [16:40] What is his process for working with artists and cutting records with them?  [20:42] Was he surprised when “I Hope You Dance” crossed over to the pop charts?  [21:48] Did he have to deal with a bunch of challenges with artists?  [22:48] How does he handle differences of opinion with the artists?  [24:32] Is it different working with singers versus instrumentalists?  [26:42] Are we missing things by not being able to record in the same room at the same time?  [28:23] Learn how various people are approaching this new realm of recording. [29:59] Hear a good story about working with Brooks & Dunn. [32:55] What was it like working with Clint Black?  [35:16] Did he have a good experience working with Trisha Yearwood?  [36:43] Hear more about working with Rhett Akins. [39:03] How does he feel about his time working with various record labels on the corporate side?  [42:29] What’s he looking forward to in his life and career?    LINKS & RESOURCES   Mark Wright: Mark Wright (record procucer)    Mark Wright Biography by AllMusic    Songs Discussed During The Interview:Lee Ann Womack - I Hope You Dance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RV-Z1YwaOiw  Today My World Slipped Away - George Strait https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uc4orZ444s  Mark Chesnutt - Too Cold At Home  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3800PSW4vQ  Mark Chesnutt - Bubba Shot The Jukebox https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=439jqiY0Eto  Mark Chesnutt - Gonna Get A Life  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yH7DC8kjU0  Gretchen Wilson - Redneck Woman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82dDnv9zeLs  Bruno Mars - Uptown Funk  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPf0YbXqDm0   Episodes Mentioned:  Episode 36 Rhett Akins: Hit Songwriter & Recording Artist     Follow The Music Makers:  The Music Makers on Instagram   The Music Makers podcast theme song was written and produced by Andy Kushner with help from the rhythm section and horn players of the band, SoundConnection.   Sponsor: Kushner Entertainment    Check out Andy's Other Podcast: The Wedding Biz

The legacy that Prince brought to the world of music is ever-enduring, but he couldn’t do it alone. Matt Fink, or Dr. Fink as he is known by fans, was one of those who helped Prince bring his music to the masses. Listen as Andy and Matt chat about the Prince years and the impact they had on Matt’s career.    Matt joined Prince’s band in 1978 and subsequently performed with him on world tours, recorded with him, and co-wrote some pivotal songs. He’s digging deep into his experiences including sharing details of his audition and how he found out he got the job to perform with Prince.  He also walks us through the craziness that was filming Purple Rain and what it was like performing on the subsequent tour. They really were memories to last a lifetime. Plus, he shares his experience playing in the after-parties with other big name artists of the times.  Later, Matt went on to help open a studio facility and began working with other big name artists through production and engineering. He’s now working with V-Media Entertainment as the Director of Catalogue and Licensing and lends his expertise as a staff producer and engineer.    Matt has truly built a legacy out of his musical talent and production. This conversation was raw and honest and highlights some of the glory days of music. Listen in to learn all about Prince and The Revolution, NPG, and how those experiences have colored the industry ever since.   Show Highlights:   [00:10] Learn more about Matt Fink and his time with Prince.  [01:33] Listen as Andy shares a story about Jeff Victor and Matt.  [02:44] Matt shares his early days of learning music.  [05:17] He recalls his first exposure to Prince.  [07:18] What was the audition process like?  [10:31] Learn about the details of being on stage with Prince.  [13:23] How he became Dr. Fink and what it was like filming Purple Rain.  [15:01] Matt shares stories about the craziness of the Purple Rain tour.  [16:33] What was it like to completely change creative direction with Sign O’ The Times.  [19:17] Why the production rehearsals of the live tours were so detailed. [21:56] Hear Matt’s experience performing in the after-shows.  [25:40] Matt’s thoughts on various Prince songs.  [28:51] Learn more about the songs Matt has co-writing credits on.  [29:29] The highlights of his time after Prince.  [33:41] Andy and Matt dig into more details on the Prince Vault.    LINKS & RESOURCES   Matt Fink: https://www.vmedia.com/  Matt on Instagram   Artists on the V-Records label: Niko Brim, Lil Crush, MJ Songstress, MVXMILLI, Julian King, Kev Rogers, Klassik Poet, Angie Rose   Mentioned in this Episode:  Episode 35 LeRoy Bennett: World Renown Live Concert Production & Lighting Designer   Episode 34 Jeff Victor: Keyboards, Composition, and Unbounded Creativity   Episode 19 Scottie Baldwin: Award-Winning FOH Sound Engineer for Prince And Other Superstars   Follow The Music Makers:  The Music Makers on Instagram   The Music Makers podcast theme song was written and produced by Andy Kushner with help from the rhythm section and horn players of the band, SoundConnection.   Sponsor: Kushner Entertainment    Check out Andy's Other Podcast: The Wedding Biz  

Jeff Babko is an in-demand pianist and keyboardist who has spent his life learning his craft and contributing to the music industry. He’s toured the world, worked with huge artists, is a gifted recording artist, and is currently the music arranger, composer, and house band member on Jimmy Kimmel Live. Listen as he shares more about his journey and experiences in the music industry and his hopes for the future.    It all started at a young age for Jeff. He remembers always being drawn to music and more specifically by album artwork. He was fascinated by how the album artwork framed the musical experience that he had when listening to the tracks.    It wasn’t long until he was learning various instruments and applying his natural curiosity to sound. He ended up attending the University of Miami’s Frost School of Music and after graduating jumped right into working with Julio Iglesias on a series of worldwide tours. Given his young age, he says he didn’t always handle those tours properly though grew and learned so much as a musician.    Being on the road 24/7 however, was not the life he wanted to lead which led him to looking for more session work. He’s worked in house bands on TV shows since 1999 and is now also a highly sought after score composer and arranger for movies and television.   Listen as he shares more about his session work and career overall. He’s digging deep into the experiences and how they’ve all moved him step by step to where he is today. His work is notable as is his presence in the industry and advice for up and coming musicians.    Show Highlights:   [00:10] Learn more about Jeff Babko and his distinguished career.  [01:44] How did Jeff and Peter Himmelman meet?  [04:23] More about why Peter is such an inspiration in the industry.  [06:15] Jeff shares the first record he ever heard and how it informed his experience. [08:28] Can he remember listening to that first Stevie Wonder record for the first time?  [11:53] Did he know early on that his life was going to involve music?  [13:18] How did his career progress?  [17:25] What was it like touring with Julio Iglesias?  [20:16] Why he didn’t always handle things well during that tour.  [22:32] What it means to be a successful LA session player. [25:43] Jeff gives advice to up and coming musicians who want to find success.  [30:36] How is working in-house for a hit TV show different from other gigs?  [34:09] Why working in-house is great for stability and routine.  [37:56] Jeff recounts working with Sheryl Crow. [43:44] Learn more about recording on film scores versus albums. [47:37] More about the huge responsibility that film scores present.  [49:11] Hear all about his solo records.  [53:53] Does he still struggle with things in his life and career?   LINKS & RESOURCES   Jeff Babco: http://www.jeffbabko.com/   Jeff’s weekly Canadian radio spot “The View From L.A.”: https://jazz.fm/the-view-from-la-with-jeff-babko/   Jeff’s TEDx talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RWGk32j2k4   Jeff’s YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiG_wKTOuIPjQob143GWjUw   Jeff’s collaborative L.A. session guys band “BIL” https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmsaZGNJbd054W-Ukl77Lmw   Mentioned in this Episode:  Episode 27 Peter Himmelman Part 1: Journey of a Singer-Songwriter, Recording Artist, TV & Film Composer, Speaker, Consultant, and Author   Episode 28 Peter Himmelman Part 2: Journey of a Singer-Songwriter, Recording Artist, TV & Film Composer, Speaker, Consultant, and Author   Episode 9 Jeff Coffin: Saxophonist, Composer, Educator, Author, and Recording & Touring Artist   Episode 8 Robert Kraft: Former President of Music, 20th Century Fox Film   Follow The Music Makers:  The Music Makers on Instagram   The Music Makers podcast theme song was written and produced by Andy Kushner with help from the rhythm section and horn players of the band, SoundConnection.   Sponsor: Kushner Entertainment    Check out Andy's Other Podcast: The Wedding Biz  

How did people get started in the industry before platforms like The Voice and American Idol? For many, their breaks came by producing and circulating demos of the songs they’d written. The big goal? Become a recording artist. The short-term goal? Have someone else record their songs and start making a name for themselves. This is exactly what happened for hit country songwriter and recording artist Rhett Akins. After dropping out of college and spending time working at his father’s oil and gas company, he started creating demos and submitting them to the big companies. One of those demos led him to record his own album and he has since spent the last 25 years helping to change the world of country music. He’s had numerous number one hits and has hit the triple threat charts multiple times. His work is truly prolific and it all started with him and his brothers creating a “band” in their bedroom. Rhett has a love of music that has pushed him through good and bad times in the industry and it will sustain him as we move into a new era of writing and recording. Listen as he and Andy discuss his early days in the industry, the motivation behind his songs, and one of the biggest downfalls of the industry. Rhett is extremely open about his experiences and even takes the time to sing one of his favorite songs. This is one interview you won’t want to miss if you’re craving that down-to-Earth soulfulness and vibe from the artists you love.   Show Highlights: [00:10] Rhett Akins has spent the last 25 years changing the world of country music. Learn more. [01:36] How Andy and Rhett connected.  [03:00] Rhett shares his favorite songs and genres of music.  [04:54] More about his early musical career with his brothers.  [05:53] Dig into his college years and why he left school.  [07:16] Why he chose to work for his father’s oil and gas company.  [08:12] The story behind him becoming a demo singer and songwriter.  [10:15] How the process worked on his first album.  [13:26] Why his songs helped to engage the crowd during live performances.  [14:50] One of the biggest issues in the music industry.  [17:45] What have been some of the difficult parts of this business for Rhett?  [21:09] Learn more about the facets of the music business and songwriting.  [24:18] How a track can inspire and lead to an entire song. [27:15] All about the Peach Pickers, Rhett’s regular writing group.  [29:53] More about how their sound evolved.  [32:46] Why “I Lived It” is one of his favorite songs.  [35:54] Rhett performs the song live.  [39:16] How does he look back on his career and what he’s accomplished.  [41:57] Has the pandemic affected his attitude, mood, or career?  [44:53] What he’s looking forward to in the near future.    LINKS & RESOURCES Rhett Akins: www.rhettakins.com https://www.facebook.com/RhettAkins https://www.instagram.com/officialrhettakins/   Songs discussed:  Take A Back Road, Rodney Atkins https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7KgmvTVmeQ  Boys Around Here, Blake Shelton https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4y8tyE5EyKI   I Lived It, Blake Shelton https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXQVT8aagcc   Mentioned during the interview:  Episode 30 Jeremy Stover: Hit Country Songwriter and Producer   Follow The Music Makers:  The Music Makers on Instagram   The Music Makers podcast theme song was written and produced by Andy Kushner with help from the rhythm section and horn players of the band, SoundConnection. Sponsor: Kushner Entertainment Check out Andy's Other Podcast: The Wedding Biz

With decades of experience working with some of the biggest names in music, LeRoy Bennett definitely knows his way around live concert production and lighting design. Andy digs deep in this conversation to find what makes LeRoy tick, where his inspiration comes from, and what it’s like working with a huge variety of superstar artists. For LeRoy, music has always been a visual process. He hears music and sees a kaleidoscope of colors and feels a strong emotion. He has made it his life’s work to bring that same visual experience to the shows of major artists around the world. He has worked with everyone from Prince to Beyonce to Paul McCartney to Rammstein and for him the work is all about making sure the audience is taken on a journey of experience. His stories and reflections of working with some of the greats in the industry are truly mind boggling in their importance and their impact. LeRoy shares what it was like being highly regarded by Prince, designing for Paul McCartney, and nailing the exacting requirements of Beyonce. This is certainly one interview you don’t want to miss out on if you’ve been interested in the behind-the-scenes of producing live shows. Andy and LeRoy even dig into the changes in technology and how they’ve impacted the industry overall and why AI will never fully take the place of humans. It can’t. No machine understands the individual nature of the human experience and as such will never be able to fully produce music, sound, emotion, or belief. Listen in to learn more. Show Highlights: [00:00:10] Learn more about LeRoy Bennett and his years of accomplishment. [00:01:41] LeRoy shares his experiences working with FOH Engineer, Scottie Baldwin, who was also interviewed by Andy and who introduced Andy and LeRoy. [00:03:07] Why he has spotlighted one particular quote on his website. [00:05:26] His thoughts and feelings on music, overall, and how it affects him.  [00:07:12] Learn more about architectural emotion and music. [00:09:52] Set design and Production design are essentially the same. Learn more. [00:12:19] LeRoy chats about how he describes his work to those outside of the industry. [00:16:45] What it takes to take an abstract vision and turn it into reality. [00:21:40] LeRoy highlights the difference between the music theatrical elements of  shows. [00:24:16] More about producing shows for TV. [00:26:45] Has he had any bad moments designing shows in his career?  [00:28:27] LeRoy shares his experience working with Beyonce and Trent Reznor.  [00:34:41] He loves working with Rammstein because of the depth of their shows. [00:36:10] Was working with Paul McCartney everything he thought it would be?  [00:40:24] LeRoy recounts the first show that he worked with Paul on. [00:43:04] How do you design a show that reaches people on an emotional level?  [00:45:42] His thoughts on the evolution of technology and where he sees it going. [00:51:12] Does AI have a place in the industry?  [00:56:10] Technology and AI aren’t able to adapt to individual experiences like a person can. [01:00:09] What makes a great interview according to LeRoy.   LINKS & RESOURCES LeRoy Bennett: www.leroybennett.com www.sevendesignworks.com  LeRoy on Instagram Mentioned in this Episode:  Episode 19 Scottie Baldwin: Award-Winning FOH Sound Engineer for Prince And Other Superstars   Follow The Music Makers:  The Music Makers on Instagram The Music Makers podcast theme song was written and produced by Andy Kushner with help from the rhythm section and horn players of the band, SoundConnection. Sponsor: Kushner Entertainment Check out Andy's Other Podcast: The Wedding Biz

Jeff Victor has been playing and composing music since he was a toddler. He began playing the piano at a very early age and rather than learn to read music, developed his ear so that he could play just about anything. Listen as he shares more about his childhood, his work in the industry, and why he feels like he’s only just finding his stride and his passion. From being a near mute to truly flourishing in speech and music, Jeff has shown creative prowess since the earliest of years. Before he became a teenager, he began playing in a band and spent the next decades touring, recording, and generally making a name for himself. Once his touring days were over, he began working in advertising and started creating musical support for big name brands. While he enjoyed how lucrative that type of work is, he burned himself out with how tedious, tiresome, and creatively draining it is. He has since begun working more in music production and creating keyboard sections for big name bands while also creating entire accompaniments to guitars and vocals, including his own. He has rekindled his passion for creating intricate and revolutionary musical numbers which has spurred a whole new side to his endeavors. Jeff is sharing it all with Andy, including his memories around Andy’s move into the music business full-time and how inspiring it is that he’s truly living the dream. If anyone understands innovation and remaking yourself in the industry, it’s Jeff. Listen in to hear all about his newest endeavors and what keeps him going despite this ever-changing business. Show Highlights: [00:10] Hear a bit about Jeff Victor’s background and experience.  [01:17] How Jeff and Andy met.  [03:22] Jeff shares more about his early years and its effect on his career.  [06:49] Despite not being able to read music, Jeff developed his ear to learn new music. [08:01] Jeff recalls his first time playing live.  [11:15] Andy and Jeff talk about the early days of Jeff’s band with Peter Himmelman, Sussman Lawrence. [12:43] How does Jeff look back on his time with Sussman Lawrence?  [15:00] What it was like opening for big acts like Greg Allman and Joe Cocker. [16:38] The story behind Jeff auditioning for Prince.  [19:42] How did Jeff and the band feel about having to skip out on tours due to Peter’s faith?  [22:46] Hear about the transition from being in a band to commercial music.  [25:55] Jeff shares the original music he created for Target.  [28:28] His work with Soul Asylum and other big acts.  [30:46] The cool thing about file sharing is… [32:31] Is there any way to recreate the “hang” vibe of recording music?  [34:24] Where does Jeff’s versatility stem from?  [36:40] What is his process with composition when working with a brand?  [39:00] Why he’s made a shift away from ad music and what he’s shifting to. [42:30] Learn about his work with Behr Paint and how it created an alter ego.   [48:07] What is coming up for Jeff?  [51:40] Jeff shares how much he enjoys sharing about his passions. [53:55] Jeff recounts a conversation he and Andy had when Andy decided to go into music full time.    LINKS & RESOURCES Jeff Victor: Imagine Color/Kasper Ramone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u33shd7GEvk    Mentioned during the interview:  Episode 27 Peter Himmelman Part 1: Journey of a Singer-Songwriter, Recording Artist, TV & Film Composer, Speaker, Consultant, and Author Episode 28 Peter Himmelman Part 2 Journey of a Singer-Songwriter, Recording Artist, TV & Film Composer, Speaker, Consultant, and Author Follow The Music Makers:  The Music Makers on Instagram The Music Makers podcast theme song was written and produced by Andy Kushner with help from the rhythm section and horn players of the band, SoundConnection. Sponsor: Kushner Entertainment Check out Andy's Other Podcast: The Wedding Biz

Using music to tell a story over a series of songs takes time, skill, and dedication. The same concept applies when you’re trying to develop bright young talent into a force in the industry. Jeff Robinson has spent his career finding and developing raw talent and helping to grow artists musically and in the business. Jeff grew up listening to music from several different eras and genres and that holistic view of music shaped his storytelling abilities. In school he would create and sell mixtapes, for his fellow students, by building the soundtrack to a great date. It wasn’t until he’d graduated from college and hit a few bumps in the road that he realized music was what he wanted to do. It was after leaving his probation officer’s office that his whole career trajectory changed. He ran into a buddy from college who was working in the music industry and from there Jeff’s life changed forever. Listen as he shares stories of how he managed to make several big breaks and surround himself with amazing mentors in the industry. He’s also giving a glimpse into the makings of Alicia Keys and H.E.R. and all of the ups and downs in building an artist from scratch. He’s been making waves in the industry for decades and it’s his ability to keep flowing and putting people first that he credits with his long-term success. You won’t want to miss out on his insights and his recommendations for burgeoning new talent managers. Show Highlights: [00:10] Jeff Robinson is the founder and chairman of MBK Entertainment Inc. [01:57] Learn the story behind his company’s name.  [03:50] What kind of music did he grow up listening to?  [06:52] How did his time in jail affect his future and career?  [09:52] Learn more about his mentors in his early years in the business. [12:28] When did he found MBK Entertainment?  [16:52] The story behind developing and managing Alicia Keys. [20:22] What sorts of things did he work on with Alicia before she made her debut?  [24:19] Hear the story behind working with Clive Davis on Alicia’s music.  [27:31] What was it like to work with Clive Davis?  [32:03] More about H.E.R. and how they started working together.  [34:50] Jeff’s thoughts on artist development and its role in today’s industry.  [36:57] How does he stay relevant despite all the changes in the industry?  [39:19] Jeff’s advice to other managers.   LINKS & RESOURCES Jeff Robinson: MBK Entertainment Mentioned in this Episode:  Episode 12 Clive Davis: Legendary Record Industry Executive Follow The Music Makers:  The Music Makers on Instagram The Music Makers podcast theme song was written and produced by Andy Kushner with help from the rhythm section and horn players of the band, SoundConnection. Sponsor: Kushner Entertainment Check out Andy's Other Podcast: The Wedding Biz

At just 17 years old, Elyscia Jefferson is on her way to an amazing career in music. She’s already writing and performing original songs and is auditioning for American Idol. Listen as she shares more about her path to music and why she feels driven to create, entertain and inspire. Elyscia has been singing and harmonizing for as long as she can remember. It wasn’t until she was five or six that her keyboardist/producer father realized the talent that she held inside of her. From then on her life was surrounded and infiltrated by the power of music and song. She even started writing at a very young age and has done it all with the support of her family. She is now part of SoundConnection, a traveling renown cover band that performs around the world. She says it’s her dream to entertain and inspire. It’s not just about writing and recording amazing songs but also about performing them and creating an experience for her audiences. Elyscia is now on the threshold of greatness. After auditioning for American Idol last year, and failing to meet the judges due to a poor song choice, she is back and about to wow Katy Perry, Lionel Richie, and Luke Bryan in Hollywood. The future is bound to be bright for this amazing talent. Listen in to hear about her inspirations and how she’s feeling about being on such a massive stage.   Show Highlights: [00:10] Listen in to learn more about Elyscia Jefferson, an up and coming young artist. [01:34] Learn more about Elyscia and her earliest memory of being moved by music. [03:45] How she started writing music. [05:06] Elyscia shares the story about her first public performance. [06:46] Learn about her writing process.  [09:41] What it’s like to work with her father.  [11:35] Where does her passion, drive, and presence come from?  [12:15] Has she experienced any challenges as she’s pursued her music?  [14:32] What has the American Idol process been like this year?  [17:41] Is she scared? Nervous? Feeling the pressure?  [20:00] Has she already decided on her outfit?  [22:06] The story behind one of her original songs.  [23:38] What does she want to come out of her experience with American Idol?    LINKS & RESOURCES Elyscia Jefferson: https://www.elysciasings.com/about https://www.instagram.com/elyscia_sings/  https://m.facebook.com/Elysciasings   Song discussed during the interview: "Nobody Else" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKyP8lJVHVE https://unitedmasters.com/m/5f15b8ce86f5483c5f7f0340 https://music.apple.com/us/album/nobody-else/1467394603?i=1467394606 https://youtu.be/6sjElBlMfiE https://soundcloud.app.goo.gl/N1qwS31rsdoyFNAx5 https://soundcloud.app.goo.gl/cfuvkha7hf9PPLPa6   Follow The Music Makers:  The Music Makers on Instagram The Music Makers podcast theme song was written and produced by Andy Kushner with help from the rhythm section and horn players of the band, SoundConnection. Sponsor: Kushner Entertainment Check out Andy's Other Podcast: The Wedding Biz

Nick Gross is known as one of today’s most creative trailblazers in media and beyond. His career has spanned the industry in a way that very few have, combining music with business incubation to execute a multitude of passion-driven projects. Beginning with a hit show on MTV, Gross shared his raw talent as a musician and drummer with the world, catapulting him to secure deals with major labels and produce music for top artists such as Ariana Grande, Zendaya and Wiz Khalifa, to name a few. As Founder of Gross Labs, he and his team have created an ecosystem in which artists, businesses, and ideas can flourish, pushing the boundaries of creativity and ingenuity. Most recently, Gross founded Find Your Grind- an education platform rooted in self-discovery, launching nation-wide events and curriculum to thousands of schools and students. You can still find Nick at a drum set with his band Girlfriends and launching the careers of artists at Big Noise Music Group. Gross Labs is a multi-dimensional entertainment and creative shop at the intersection of music, investments, ventures and philanthropy. Their music division, Big Noise Music Group, offers a robust and creative playground to develop artists and their careers. BNMG combines a recording studio, a label, publishing, and an industry-leading live events business that builds out custom festivals centered on music and lifestyle passions. They invest in businesses and people who are acting on disruptive, groundbreaking, and culturally impactful ideas. Gross Labs ideates and develops brands that speak to “what’s next”. Their ventures are in place to add a wider platform of opportunities for artists and on-the-rise entrepreneurs to build their brands. Philanthropy is at the core of everything they do. They believe in the power of youth and providing opportunities to help influence their stories, passions, and purpose. Show Highlights: [00:10] Nick Gross is the president of Gross Labs. Learn more. [02:10] Why it’s so important to Nick to find what you love as soon as possible.  [04:05] Did his parents model this concept?  [05:39] What kept him from going to college right out of high school?  [07:55] How does he view risk and fear?  [11:18] Developing a sense of business is very important but so is creativity.  [13:14] Managing and putting together a business can be a part of your creative process. [14:55] Learn more about his first forays into entrepreneurship. [17:53] How he started building a record label.  [19:04] Ways to approach obstacles for growth.  [20:01] The story behind Gross Labs and Find Your Grind.  [23:50] Why he is so intent on education.  [24:51] How his business set up inherently mitigates risk in a competitive market. [27:45] Why college festivals are difficult to set up and sponsor. [28:47] How does he help people to find their roadmap?  [31:43] Patience is super important to success and big breaks.  [33:12] Learn why having the right people around is important to success.  [36:50] Why having an artist-first approach is important to him.  [37:41] What will his world look like five years from now?  [40:21] Connect with Nick.    LINKS & RESOURCES Nick Gross: www.grosslabs.com   www.findyourgrind.com   Twitter @nickgross Nick's band, Girlfriends, and their latest release: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQ3IKnB47SU    Follow The Music Makers:  The Music Makers on Instagram The Music Makers podcast theme song was written and produced by Andy Kushner with help from the rhythm section and horn players of the band, SoundConnection. Sponsor: Kushner Entertainment  Check out Andy's Other Podcast: The Wedding Biz

Growing up in a small town in Georgia, Jeremy Stover had no clue his life would turn to music. What he knew was that the emotion he felt when he heard good music was transformative and later realized he wanted to be a part of the industry. Listen as he and Andy chat about his formative years, what drew him to Nashville, and why he’s now been drawn to developing artists and producing music. It wasn’t until Jeremy was in college that he realized how drawn to the music industry he truly was. He was there to learn more about the textile industry, so that he could take over his family’s business, and what he found was an undying love of the artistry of songwriting. He left college with his sights set on Nashville and determined to make his mark. His first internship put him in the path of some of the greats in country music and he’s been writing for them ever since. Jeremy is a delight to listen to. His passion for writing music is evident, not only in the songs he’s written and co-written, but also in the way he discusses the craft. But it’s his passion for up and coming artists that truly sets him apart from the crowd. Listen as he shares the stories behind some of thel huge songs he’s written and why they are so impactful. He also talks about the difference between writing love songs and songs that are more reflective of life experience. This was an amazing conversation! Show Highlights: [00:10] Jeremy Stover is a hit songwriter and producer out of Nashville. [01:14] A big thanks to Lesly Simon for introducing Andy and Jeremy. [02:00] Learn more about Jeremy’s upbringing and early days. [04:01] Did he have any connection to music early on?  [06:37] What was his experience with music growing up?  [09:19] Who were his rock influences?  [11:14] What was his first entry into being a musician and songwriter?  [15:27] Hear more about his early experiences in Nashville.  [17:08] How did he begin to establish himself?  [21:21] What was it like when he got his first #1 hit song?  [23:16] Why he decided to build his own company. [25:53] How much of lyric writing is craft?  [27:43] Reflective songs can be so much more powerful than love songs.  [31:06] Learn more about “The Ones That Didn’t Make It Back Home.”  [35:35] What’s the story behind “We Didn’t Have Much?” [38:32] Will he still consider using Zoom to write with artists who aren’t in town?  [39:07] What are some of the biggest challenges of being a songwriter?  [40:09] Hear about Jeremy’s recent writing retreat experience. LINKS & RESOURCES Jeremy Stover: http://www.redcreativegroup.com Instagram: @countryjeremyst Songs discussed during the interview: How I'll Always Be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSbnrPSuwQY  The Ones That Didn't Make It Back Home https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHvx5D-zDfo We Didn't Have Much https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyQrBGPxdK8   Mentioned During the Interview:  Episode 10 Lesly Simon: General Manager Pearl/Gwendolyn Records for Garth Brooks and Trisha Yearwood   Follow The Music Makers:  The Music Makers on Instagram   The Music Makers podcast theme song was written and produced by Andy Kushner with help from the rhythm section and horn players of the band, SoundConnection: Elliot Jefferson, Lamonte Silver, Keith Hammond, Roy Lambert, Joe Herrera, and Craig Alston.   Sponsor: Kushner Entertainment    Check out Andy's Other Podcast: The Wedding Biz

The music industry is not for the faint of heart. Jaime Zeluck-Hindlin knows this from personal experience and continues to rock the world with her amazing talent for finding major hit songwriters and producers. She’s been in and out of all aspects of music and is now the founder and owner of Nonstop Management. Jaime started her career in A&R and after having a true brush with death, she knew that she needed to build something of her own. She’d always equated success with building her own business and finding such success in the industry, and that experience was the impetus she needed to make it happen. Listen as she and Andy chat about her roles in A&R, both for a record label and in music publishing, and how they prepared her to run her own career management company for songwriters and producers. She shares very candid stories from her past and how all of her experiences have made her the manager and business owner that she is today. They also chat about the songwriters she’s signed and the #1 hit songs they’ve written. This includes JKash, Michael Pollack, Jake Torrey, Nick Long, Sam Farrar, Ryann, and more. And one of those songwriters also happens to be her significant other! Artists who have recorded their songs include Jason Derulo & Jawsh 685, Kygo and One Republic, Adam Levine and Maroon 5, Katy Perry, Tate McRae, Charlie Puth, Zedd, the Jonas Brothers, and Machine Gun Kelly, amongst others. Jaime is refreshingly open and honest about her career and the choices that she’s made and this interview was truly spectacular. Listen in to learn more! Show Highlights: [00:18] Andy shares Jaime’s history and Nonstop Management. [01:55] What is the difference between A&R in publishing versus for a label?  [03:40] How her experience gave her a different perspective when working with songwriters. [06:25] Who all has she signed?  [07:30] How has she found the strength to talk about her deepest personal struggles publicly?  [08:41] What was it like to have a near-death experience after giving birth?  [10:52] Learn what it was like to have to stop her life for eight months while healing.  [13:42] Hear some of the songwriters and artists she’s worked with. [14:33] How she chooses who to work with. [16:59] Is it complicated working with her husband?  [19:35] How does she navigate the politics and protect her artists?  [20:51] What’s the story behind Jason Derulo’s “Savage Love.” [23:49] What it was like hearing Adam Levines take on “Memories.” What is the story behind Tate McRae’s “You Broke Me First.” [26:57] Hear more about MGK’s “Bloody Valentine” and how it came together.  [30:09] How quarantine has affected recording.  [32:39] Does she negotiate deals for writers to have points on the master?  [33:39] Jaime shares some of the biggest challenges she’s had in building her business.  [35:19] Has she felt the same issues other women in the industry have felt?  [36:50] If you’re looking for a writing gig, or for managing writers, these are Jaime’s best tips.  [39:15] What does success mean to Jaime?    LINKS & RESOURCES Jaime Zeluck-Hindlin: Songs discussed during the interview: “Savage Love,” Jason Derulo featuring Jawsh 685: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DuoFzu3TNRE “Memories,” Maroon 5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlPhMPnQ58k “You Broke Me First,” Tate McRae: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AG-erEMhumc “Bloody Valentine,” MGK: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wSdT-SArM2Q “Nobody's Love,” Maroon 5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ghhRHRP6t4 Follow The Music Makers:  The Music Makers on Instagram The Music Makers podcast theme song was written and produced by Andy Kushner with help from the rhythm section and horn players of the band, SoundConnection: Elliot Jefferson, Lamonte Silver, Keith Hammond, Roy Lambert, Joe Herrera, and Craig Alston. Sponsor: Kushner Entertainment  Check out Andy's Other Podcast: The Wedding Biz

If you missed Andy’s Part 1 interview of Peter Himmelman it was released just last week, as episode #27, and is well-worth checking out before tuning in to this Part 2 interview.  Andy and Peter are back to discuss the intricacies of songwriting, Peter’s process, and his experiences outside of writing songs. Writing songs is truly an art and every single artist does it differently. Peter’s take on songwriting is so simple yet allows him to craft extremely emotional songs that touch his listeners in all stages of life.  So how does he do it? Rather than stepping straight into a story or trying to craft a masterpiece off the top of his head, he thinks about the emotions that he’s feeling. Every song is a story that needs to be told and the story comes second to the overall emotion.  Listen as Peter shares the writing of some of his songs and then actually performs them live on the podcast. He’s a brilliant and prolific songwriter and his experience shows in the way that he crafts his lyrics.  Andy also asks Peter to delve into his work composing scores for TV and Film. Listen as Peter shares how the process of composing a score versus writing a song is still amazingly similar. They also discuss his highly engaging stage persona as well as the consulting company he founded Big Muse, which helps individuals and organizations realize their creative potential. This artist’s career has been long and storied and above all he wants to keep touching the lives of people all over the world. He still has big dreams and he’s not letting anything stop him from reaching them.    Show Highlights: [00:00:10] This week Andy and Peter are digging into Peter’s songwriting and other aspects of his career in the entertainment industry. [00:02:01] Hear more about Peter’s prolific songwriting chops.  [00:04:01] Peter shares his approach to writing songs and how he comes up with his lyrics. [00:06:49] Listen as Peter performs a song.  [00:09:39] Peter chats about his new album and where the title track came from.  [00:11:43] How he felt as he was writing the song.  [00:14:25] Taking something known and turning it into a mystery is Peter’s goal when he writes.  [00:15:58] Peter performs “Press On.”  [00:21:40] Learn more about his song, “Flown This Acid World,” and how it came about. [00:23:26] Hear a portion of the song performed live.  [00:25:33] Peter performs another song.  [00:29:17] How did he develop his stage presence?  [00:32:57] Why his comfort on stage helps him to own it.   [00:35:40] Writing music for TV & Film is somewhat similar to writing songs. Learn more.  [00:40:36] Learn more about Peter’s company Big Muse.  [00:44:05] How Covid has affected his business.  [00:47:04] Are his new songs related to our current plight in society?  [00:48:01] Listen to another of Peter’s songs.  [00:51:22] What is Peter dreaming of now?  [00:56:07] Learn more about the song “Impermanent Things.” [00:58:13] Peter performs Impermanent Things.   LINKS & RESOURCES Peter Himmelman: www.peterhimmelman.com www.bigmuse.com www.letmeoutbook.com https://ffm.to/pressonalbum https://www.forbes.com/sites/peterhimmelman/#337d49c61271 https://open.spotify.com/artist/3oTe4zcu5jeIY2nM8gOSSi Beneath The Damage And The Dust https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reFxiiqWYis Press On https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D82xsBxGpYI This Is How It Ends https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSxCrsrEVJo A Place In Your Heart https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qK0220fM4m8 Flown This Acid World https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-_cbApVC7U  Woman With The Strength of 10,000 Men (performs around 25:00) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTU-ppinm1s Impermanent Things https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPhZtEDfyfI Follow The Music Makers:  The Music Makers on Instagram The Music Makers podcast theme song was written and produced by Andy Kushner with help from the rhythm section and horn players of the band, SoundConnection: Elliot Jefferson, Lamonte Silver, Keith Hammond, Roy Lambert, Joe Herrera, and Craig Alston. Sponsor: Kushner Entertainment  Check out Andy's Other Podcast: The Wedding Biz

Some people’s decisions have led them to rather challenging places, but Andy’s friend and artist Peter Himmelman is truly living a dream. In this first part of a two-part interview, Andy and Peter dig deep into the past. Listen as they chat about their first meeting, the growth of Peter’s career, and why his faith became significantly more important.  Peter recounts the moment that he was first moved by music and how deeply it moved him. His older sister had a turntable with internal speakers and he heard all the classics. The music he heard was so impactful that it led him to make music of his own.  Fast-forward to his teen years and he found himself in a band creating music and eventually living in a band house financed by his ability to create therapeutic songs for children with autism and anxiety.  Peter shares his story from the time that the band first came together and what it took for him to realize what was most important in his life. His faith has helped him to see the joy and beauty in a very complicated world.  Listen as they chat about his career and why his faith made such an important impact in both his life and his professional journey. They leave off on a bit of a cliffhanger as they discuss how Peter’s life and career have changed during the time of Covid, for both the good and the bad.  Tune in next week to hear the second part of this amazing conversation, which includes a deep dive into his songwriting.   Show Highlights: [00:00:10] Learn more about Peter Himmelman and his background with Andy. [00:02:22] Peter and Andy reminisce about their younger years.  [00:03:56] Hear Peter’s first memory of being moved by music.  [00:05:36] Listen to why he felt he needed to prove himself to his parents.  [00:08:17] How did Peter and his first band find their unique style so early on?  [00:10:57] What it’s like to meet new musicians for the first time after playing with so many other amazing performers.  [00:13:16] Who were Peter’s role models?  [00:14:30] What was his experience like at his “band house” early on?  [00:16:52] How did he finance the house. [00:20:59] Learn more about that time for Peter and his band.  [00:23:17] Did the Beacon Theater showcase, in New York City, result in anything for him?  [00:28:09] How did his first band, Sussman Lawrence, manage to have so many things go right and still not “make” it?  [00:31:38] The story behind the song, that landed his first record deal, This Father’s Day. [00:38:31] Peter’s unexpected and wild experience with a pair of psychics and how it influenced a major career-changing decision.   [00:50:34] Why he turned down major performance opportunities in the face of his faith. [00:53:14] One of the tenets of Judaism that really affected Peter’s life and career. [01:02:16] How his faith has impacted his career and his practices. [01:04:06] Did his team have a problem with his beliefs?  [01:07:10] Has he found resolution between his beliefs and his dreams?  [01:10:19] Why this pause has been amazing for his life.    LINKS & RESOURCES   Peter Himmelman: www.peterhimmelman.com www.bigmuse.com www.letmeoutbook.com https://ffm.to/pressonalbum https://www.forbes.com/sites/peterhimmelman/#337d49c61271 https://open.spotify.com/artist/3oTe4zcu5jeIY2nM8gOSSi Song mentioned: This Father's Day https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elNAtV9A7jI   Follow The Music Makers:  The Music Makers on Instagram   The Music Makers podcast theme song was written and produced by Andy Kushner with help from the rhythm section and horn players of the band, SoundConnection: Elliot Jefferson, Lamonte Silver, Keith Hammond, Roy Lambert, Joe Herrera, and Craig Alston.   Sponsor: Kushner Entertainment    Check out Andy's Other Podcast: The Wedding Biz  

When you’ve spent almost all of your adult life in the music industry, and watching history being made, the stories you could tell are legion. Ed Stasium has that experience. He and Andy relive a good portion of the history of the music industry from the 1950s to today and how they both love and hate how it’s all changed.    Ed’s parents loved to listen to music but neither of them were musicians. They spared no expense in letting him explore his musical nature and dig into every facet of the process that he was moved by. Everything from providing him with guitar lessons to saving up and purchasing his very first tape recorder, they were willing to support him fully.    While he was in high school, he and some friends formed a garage band and that was his first step into the industry itself. He learned how to produce, mix, and engineer on the job and by working with some of the biggest names in music. He is now working on creating an anniversary box set for The Ramones, a band that he has been closely linked to for their entire career.    Listen as Ed shares stories about working with various production companies and bands, and why rock and roll has always had his heart. He has a refreshing way of discussing his role in creating some of the most iconic music through the decades and his humility whilst discussing his genius is fascinating to hear.    Show Highlights:   [00:00:10] Ed Stasium is an American record producer and engineer who has seen rock ‘n roll grow up.  [00:01:18] Ed shares how he met and began working with Mastering Engineer, Greg Calbi, who was also interviewed by Andy on The Music Makers. [00:01:58] Learn more about his work on The Ramones 40 year anniversary box set.  [00:05:47] When did his passion for music begin?  [00:09:13] His first experience with a tape recorder.  [00:12:06] How his garage band started and then his transition into engineering. [00:18:14] His first foray in building a studio.  [00:22:50] Learn what it takes to align tape machines. [00:25:40] How he learned his craft.  [00:28:57] Ed recounts working with several French Canadian artists.  [00:32:08] He even worked with the Bee Gees. Learn more.  [00:34:09] How he became an audio consultant and engineer for Media Sound’s new studio and later, The Power Station.  [00:38:52] What was the impetus for him finally becoming a part of the Media family?  [00:39:49] Learn more about his time with The Ramones.  [00:42:48] Did he know the Talking Heads before working with them?  [00:44:34] What was it like working with Mick Jagger?  [00:50:17] Ed shares what it was like working on the first Living Colour album. [00:55:33] What was it like working with Soul Asylum and The Smithereens?  [00:59:03] Hear more about his time working with Joan Jett & The Blackhearts. [01:00:46] Why he took a step away from the industry and moved to Durango, CO. [01:04:12] Does he miss the days of bands recording together?  [01:06:47] What about digital technology does he like?  [01:09:45] Learn how he’s adapted to the times and working remotely.    LINKS & RESOURCES   Ed Stasium: https://edstasium.com  Mentioned:  Episode 13 Greg Calbi: Iconic Mastering Engineer Follow The Music Makers:  The Music Makers on Instagram   The Music Makers podcast theme song was written and produced by Andy Kushner with help from the rhythm section and horn players of the band, SoundConnection: Elliot Jefferson, Lamonte Silver, Keith Hammond, Roy Lambert, Joe Herrera, and Craig Alston.   Sponsor: Kushner Entertainment    Check out Andy's Other Podcast: The Wedding Biz

Finding a spot in the limelight at a young age can either be a great thing… or a truly terrible thing. Ina Forsman has owned her limelight and aspires to continue to learn and grow with her craft. Listen as Andy and Ina spend time discussing her start in music, how she’s grown, and what she’s looking forward to most.  Ina has never known a time when music wasn’t supremely important. When she was younger, she would sing with her grandfather while he played guitar. She then spent the rest of her younger years performing at home and singing to a pretend audience. It wasn’t until she performed at a school talent show that her mother realized Ina was not only talented but a force to be reckoned with. She performed on television for Idols, the Finnish version of American Idol, and later recorded tracks for a well-known recording artist. All the while she knew that this life was the one she wanted. She continued to write and create music and before she knew it she had a record deal and was recording in the United States and touring around the world. Since then she has learned music theory, performance design, and the value of learning from and listening to the other musicians in her space.  This was a fantastic conversation that digs into the heart of a dedicated young musician, songwriter, and performance artist. One thing that Ina credits her success to is having found the right mentors at the right time who have helped her grow in all areas of musicianship. Listen in to learn all about what’s coming up next for this bright young artist.   Show Highlights:   [00:10] Andy shares Ina’s biography and his first experience with her music. [01:53] Ina discusses her earliest memory of being moved by music.  [03:29] What kinds of artists did she grow up listening to? [06:03] How did she feel performing in front of people for the first time?  [07:55] What happened after Idols?  [10:14] Was she living the dream being in a recording studio for the first time?  [11:11] Had she done any writing at that point?  [12:59] How did her album Ina Forsman come about?  [15:00] Learn more about the process behind the albums she recorded in Austin, TX. [17:46] Why it is so important that young artists find the right person to support them creatively. [19:04] How involved was she in the arrangement and production of the Been Meaning to Tell You album?  [21:21] Ina shares why she thinks it’s important to let her band add their vision to the music as well. [23:34] Where did the song Be My Home come from?  [25:55] Learn more about her process for writing and composing songs and building an album. [29:05] How did Get Mine come to be?  [33:29] Does she write with instruments?  [35:39] What kind of stage persona does she take on?  [37:21] How much does she get involved in designing her live shows?  [40:30] Has the pandemic affected her year and her touring schedule?  [42:50] If everything goes to plan for the rest of the year, what does her future look like?    LINKS & RESOURCES   Ina Forsman: Ina’s Website: https://www.inaforsman.com/  Ina on FacebookIna on Instagram Ina on YouTube   Songs discussed during the interview: Be My Home:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5y1gXGsnJzQ Get Mine:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BpP-Rzud8o  Hanging Loose:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yRtxc3G3O8  Mentioned:  Episode 19 Scottie Baldwin: Award-Winning FOH Sound Engineer for Prince And Other Superstars Follow The Music Makers:  The Music Makers on Instagram   The Music Makers podcast theme song was written and produced by Andy Kushner with help from the rhythm section and horn players of the band, SoundConnection: Elliot Jefferson, Lamonte Silver, Keith Hammond, Roy Lambert, Joe Herrera, and Craig Alston.   Sponsor: Kushner Entertainment    Check out Andy's Other Podcast: The Wedding Biz

Chuck Johnson knew since he was a child that he wanted to be a musician. After persistently nagging his father (who played music in a band during rowdy parties) to teach him how to play, he learned his first 3 chords at 6 years old. Chuck Johnson probably never imagined his early childhood fascination would turn into a successful career as a prominent member of 3 bands and internationally touring with a jazz legend. From the ins and outs of forming bands over his career to the way he balanced a job with his musical commitments, Chuck spends this episode sharing stories and providing insight into his wide-ranging career– including playing some live music from his most recent album. About Chuck Johnson: Originally from Ferrum, a small rural town in southwest Virgina, Charles “Chuck” Johnson is a guitarist and vocalist for the band TK-421 and Najee. He got his first big break in a variety band called Bananas At Large. In addition to his experience with Bananas At Large and TK-421, Chuck performs occasionally with jazz artists Alex Bugnon, Jeff Lorber, Will Downing, Maysa, and others. Show Highlights: Chuck’s early musical influences, from family jam sessions to big-time artists What motivated Chuck’s father to give him a banjo at 12 years old Who influenced Chuck to veer away from his musical roots of country and bluegrass When and how Chuck decided to improve his vocal cord care How Chuck was recruited to join Bananas At Large What goes through Chuck’s mind during a performance Chuck hypothesizes on why Bananas At Large became such a huge success The events that led to Chuck leaving Bananas At Large and forming TK-421 What it was like to perform in music while he was balancing a full-time job Andy and Chuck reminisce about the cross-over in their musical backgrounds How Chuck bypassed auditioning and began playing with Najee Chuck’s tips for learning on the job in brand new situations What it was like for Chuck to play in front of Stevie Wonder What did Al Jarreau say to Chuck after seeing Chuck perform Chuck shares his love of music by singing and playing an original song    Links Mentioned in the Show: Chuck's Website  Bananas At Large Bananas At Large performing Led Zeppelin’s “Trampled Under Foot” TK-421 – Facebook Page Najee Chuck performing with Najee Toni Mengage on TMM  

The changes in the music industry have been storied and Dave Hampton is one of the people at the forefront and is dedicated to preserving its history. He’s been in the trenches designing and restoring the recording studios that have created the sounds of our past and present. Listen as Andy and Dave chat about his work with various big names, how music has changed, and where he sees the industry going. Dave started his career in music at Oberheim Electronics where he worked in analog synthesizer technology. He soon became an independent engineer, technician, and sound editor and started his own business, MATK Corporation. He has a unique method of understanding how artists plan to create their music and builds their studios around that vision.  Previous clients include Prince, Michael Jackson, Whitney Houston, Lady Gaga, Justin Timberlake, Maxwell, Herbie Hancock, George Duke, Marcus Miller, Bill Withers, Babyface, Outkast, and more.   Listen as he shares his initial reservations around working with Prince and why he’s so happy that he went into that collaboration, with an open mind, which lasted for seven years. He also discusses his role in preserving the contents of Prince’s vault and details his involvement as the Chief Curator for the Miles Davis Estate.  Andy also has him dig into the issues of racial disparity in the music industry and how recent events have brought more needed attention to the forefront. Dave is refreshingly open and honest about his experiences as a black man in the industry and his recommendations for up and coming people of color.  You won’t want to miss out on this fantastic discussion and learn more about what Dave is working on now.  Show Highlights: [00:08] Dave Hampton is one of the foremost engineering experts in the music industry. [01:50] Learn more about Dave’s childhood and upbringing.  [03:53] Hear how Dave moved into electronics and engineering.  [06:37] Why did he move into editing and tech work?  [07:54] Who gave him his big break in restoring and setting up a recording studio?  [10:02] Learn more about Dave’s process when he begins working on a studio.  [11:48] What did he learn from his experience with Herbie Hancock?  [15:27] Dave shares more about his first experience with Prince. [17:55] What were Prince’s studios like to begin with?  [18:48] How did the studios get to that state?  [20:00] What was it that made Dave stay on Prince’s team?  [23:07] Learn more about the norm of artists today with regard to how art is created.  [24:02] Did he work on Prince’s vault and what was the condition of the tapes?  [25:44] Dave shares some of his memories of working with Prince and on the Vault.  [27:50] Why Dave and Andy have mixed feelings about listening to the music released after Prince’s death. [30:05] What kind of work did he do with and for Michael Jackson and Justin Timberlake?  [32:06] Learn more about his conservatorship over the Miles Davis estate.  [33:51] How does he feel about the evolution of music engineering?  [37:18] Why time management and business management is the key to success.  [39:10] Dave shares his thoughts on racial disparity in the music industry and the nation. [41:46] What is different about this year’s movement?  [44:33] Hear the advice Dave would give to young people of color who are trying to break into the music industry.  [46:43] Where does Dave think the recording industry is going from here?  [48:27] Why aren’t artists more direct in their messaging?  [51:31] What’s coming next for technology in music?  [54:02] Why Live Nation is an example of what not to do or be these days. [56:07] Connect with Dave and grab his books.    LINKS & RESOURCES Dave Hampton: The Business of Audio Engineering by Dave Hampton So You’re an Audio Engineer by Dave Hampton Dave on TwitterDave on LinkedIn Mentioned:  Episode 19 Scottie Baldwin: Award-Winning FOH Sound Engineer for Prince And Other Superstars Follow The Music Makers:  The Music Makers on Instagram   The Music Makers podcast theme song was written and produced by Andy Kushner with help from the rhythm section and horn players of the band, SoundConnection: Elliot Jefferson, Lamonte Silver, Keith Hammond, Roy Lambert, Joe Herrera, and Craig Alston.   Sponsor: Kushner Entertainment    Check out Andy's Other Podcast: The Wedding Biz  

Is the musician's life different when you get to experience it within your own family? Andy had an opportunity to sit down with Greg and Gary Grainger to chat about the industry, their family, their influences, and their career. Both are highly respected musicians in the industry with Greg being a drummer and Gary being a bass player. Listen as the brothers share stories about their tours, their collaborations, and their thoughts on how the industry has changed.  Gary and Greg grew up with a music loving father who instilled the same love in them and their brothers. They both found their preferred instrument and continued to practice, play, and perfect their crafts. After high school, they went on to perform with a variety of top tier names adding their expertise to the industry.  Between the two of them they’ve worked with such names as Whitney Houston, John Scofield, Earth, Wind & Fire, and together they created the band Pockets. They have a unique ability to lock with the drums and bass so that they’re creating a harmonious beat for every song.  Their love of music gives them the freedom to study all its forms and create truly unique sounds. Between working with Latino artists, heavy metal artists, jazz artists, and more they’ve created a blend of music that is inspiring.  Listen and learn all about their history and why they think the industry needs a reboot. They’re doing their part by having created The MusicianShip program and hope that more do the same. Both Greg and Gary feel that if music hadn’t been in their schools, they would have been lost.  Gary and Greg were an extreme pleasure for Andy to interview. Hit play to learn more!   Show Highlights: [00:14] Andy chats with the Grainger Brothers about their lives in music. [02:46] Gary Grainger shares how he learned to play bass guitar.  [05:24] Moving into the 80s and their work.  [08:21] How did Greg get started on drums?  [10:40] Learn how Pockets came about.  [13:56] What came after Pockets?  [15:41] How Greg started working with Whitney Houston. [18:07] What was it like touring with Whitney?  [19:40] Gary provides insight into his experience with Earth, Wind & Fire.  [22:52] Hear what happened after they cut their first record. [25:11] How does being brothers affect their ability to lock with the drums and bass.  [27:38] What does it mean to “respect the rhythms?”  [31:35] They share how they approach backing up the singers in any group.  [35:38] How much of their performances are arranged versus improvised?  [38:18] Did they naturally decide to cross their styles and influences?  [43:30] Learn Greg and Gary’s thoughts on the differences between playing live versus recording.  [44:45] Any good studio session stories that they love?  [47:34] How do they feel about the changes in technology and recording software?  [49:39] What do we do to help young people foster interest in actual instruments?  [54:04] Tell us about Hillview Studio?    LINKS & RESOURCES The Grainger Brothers: www.pocketsband.net www.graingerbrothers.com www.themusicianship.org   Mentioned:  Episode 2: Dennis Chambers: Modern Drummer Hall of Fame Award RecipientEpisode 5: Brent Birckhead/Saxophonist: A Musician's Journey Part 1 Episode 6: Brent Birckhead/Saxophonist: A Musician's Journey Part 2 Episode 15: Greg Boyer: Trombonist Formerly with Prince and P-Funk Episode 18: Toni Menage/Singer & Producer: The Path To Musical Freedom Follow The Music Makers:  The Music Makers on Instagram The Music Makers podcast theme song was written and produced by Andy Kushner with help from the rhythm section and horn players of the band, SoundConnection: Elliot Jefferson, Lamonte Silver, Keith Hammond, Roy Lambert, Joe Herrera, and Craig Alston. Sponsor: Kushner Entertainment  Check out Andy's Other Podcast: The Wedding Biz

Music is the way to the soul and for many it is the balm needed to make it through rough times. For Katie Vinten, music helped her through the rough times and elevated the wonderful times. She has always been drawn to music and has since taken the music industry by storm.  Katie always knew she needed a creative outlet which drove her to seek out NYU’s Tisch as her school of choice for college. Not wanting to stay too comfortable, she decided on a change of scenery after college and moved out west to L.A. It was there that her career in music would flourish.  Katie became an assistant to EMI publishing legend, Jon Platt, and from there proved that she was meant to be in the industry. Through his belief in her, and following her own gut, she managed to find and sign several amazing artists. She quickly moved through the ranks but realized after the birth of her daughter that it was time to follow her own dreams.  It was then that she formed Black Diamond Artist Management and then co-founded Facet House with singer and mega hit songwriter, Justin Tranter. Under her watch, they’ve achieved literally billions of streams! Listen as we chat about everything including what drives her to make her way in an industry that historically has not been kind to women.  Her drive and determination have marked the music industry for the better and she shares that passion with everyone she works with! Show Highlights: [00:10] Katie Vinten is on her way to becoming a music industry mogul. [01:59] Why is music so important to Katie?  [07:00] Who were Katie’s favorite artists as she was growing up?  [09:10] When she was in the Tisch School of the Arts, what was she going for?  [12:15] What drew her to L.A.?  [13:43] Learn more about her first job in the music industry and why it was so impactful. [19:33] Katie shares the highlights of her time at Warner Chappell. [22:30] Working with and signing Justin Tranter was one of her most significant contributions to Warner Chappell. [25:15] Why she felt like they had a true partnership.  [28:09] Learn why she decided to step away from the corporate world to create her own company. [32:02] What does managing songwriters and producers entail?  [35:18] One element of Katie’s version of creativity is figuring out the right writers to pair with the right artists.  [37:31] Why she and Justin founded Facet House. [40:06] How does she feel about her ability to face risks?  [42:44] What does she recommend aspiring writers and producers do as they seek management?  [46:04] Is misogyny still prevalent in the music industry?  [49:17] Why you have to shift your perspective on success and growth.    LINKS & RESOURCES Katie Vinten: www.facethouse.com Katie on Instagram @Facethouse @Blackdiamondartistmgmt @healthiswealthwithkatie   Follow The Music Makers:  The Music Makers on Instagram The Music Makers podcast theme song was written and produced by Andy Kushner with help from the rhythm section and horn players of the band, SoundConnection: Elliot Jefferson, Lamonte Silver, Keith Hammond, Roy Lambert, Joe Herrera, and Craig Alston.   Sponsor: Kushner Entertainment    Check out Andy's Other Podcast: The Wedding Biz

The power of a good lyric is truly amazing. Thankfully, there are people like Lori McKenna in the world who can craft deeply emotional lyrics that inspire and motivate. She joins Andy today to chat about how she got into music, what it is like to write music with and without co-writers, and to talk about her recently released album, The Balladeer.  Lori grew up with a love of music. She lost her mother at a young age and her four older brothers, older sister, and father found solace in the beauty of music. She credits her brothers with establishing her music education and instilling a love of music at an early age.  She didn’t immediately look for ways into the music industry. Instead, she got married and started a family, but she knew something was missing. Listen as she shares how she got her start and why she often feels overcome with gratitude for the life she leads. There is no question that the changes in the music industry, over the last decade, have been immense. One thing that never changes is the ability of writers to evoke emotion from the listener. Lori gives a true insider’s look into the writing process and what it takes to keep going each and every day.  Her new album The Balladeer is available to order. Click here to find out more.    Show Highlights: [00:10] Lori McKenna is an amazing singer-songwriter. Listen as Andy shares just a few of her accolades.  [02:45] What was her earliest memory of being touched and moved by music?  [05:18] Which influences in her life shaped who she is today?  [06:39] How did the early passing of her mother affect her life and songwriting?  [09:27] Learn more about the long history between Lori and her husband.  [11:28] Why it’s so important to have a place to come home to.  [14:07] How does the writing process change when writing alone versus when co-writing?  [17:15] When writing alone does she start with one part of a song versus another?  [20:20] Does she get close to the actual melodies versus the words?  [23:05] Learn how Girl Crush came into existence.  [25:23] What’s it like to write with superstars?  [28:13] How does she feel about her most recent album?  [31:32] Lori shares how one of the most poignant songs on her album got its name. [34:15] There is so much in all this that is helping to learn and grow together. [35:18] What does she dream about now?    LINKS & RESOURCES   Lori McKenna: www.lorimckenna.com The Balladeer: https://orcd.co/theballadeer Instagram: @lorimckennama Mentioned:  Episode 16 Beth Laird: CEO Creative Nation for Hit Songwriters, Producers, Artists   Follow The Music Makers:  The Music Makers on Instagram   The Music Makers podcast theme song was written and produced by Andy Kushner with help from the rhythm section and horn players of the band, SoundConnection: Elliot Jefferson, Lamonte Silver, Keith Hammond, Roy Lambert, Joe Herrera, and Craig Alston.   Sponsor: Kushner Entertainment    Check out Andy's Other Podcast: The Wedding Biz

“I’ve traveled the world, and found that live music is the heartbeat that keeps us all in sync.”  - Scottie Baldwin Running sound for a live show is unlike any other experience in the music industry. The sound at a live show has a feeling, a color and it can be the difference between giving the audience the experience of a lifetime or an utter failure.  Scottie Baldwin has been running front of house sound for huge artists for over three decades and he’s here to share more about his experience and the industry itself. There are few sound engineers in the industry who take the time to learn the material of their artists as thoroughly as Scottie. He credits his time with Prince for his diligence, but it’s really his work ethic that shines through. For him, music is not just words being sung to a tune or the amazing rise and fall of a symphony. Music is the thread that ties us all together. Scottie shares how he approaches stadium and arena shows versus smaller venues. For instance, when people attend a show at a stadium, oftentimes they are looking up at the huge jumbo trons. He makes it a point to collaborate with the videographers and lighting designers to be sure that the right people are highlighted at the right times during the show. For example, if he is turning up one member of the band, then that person will be the one you see on the big screen.  This attention to detail is what really sets him apart in the industry and is why he has been called upon to work with the likes of Prince, Madonna, Earth, Wind, and Fire, Stevie Wonder, Tegan and Sara, The Fray, Lady Gaga, Maxwell, D’Angelo,  Duran Duran, and Wang Leehom.  Listen as they chat about Scottie’s time with Prince and what it was like behind the scenes. They also discuss various aspects of the industry itself and why he’s happy that he didn’t go to school for sound engineering.  Scottie is truly a talent in the music industry and this conversation is filled with amazing insight into what it takes to make artists sound fantastic live.    Show Highlights:   [00:00:14] Scottie Baldwin runs front of house sound and has worked with several huge celebrities.  [00:02:24] Why is live music so important?  [00:04:24] Where did Scottie’s passion for music come from?  [00:05:46] How was he influenced to start working in sound?  [00:08:23] What was the transition like going from being a drum tech to doing sound?  [00:11:20] Scottie first ran sound for Sheila E. [00:15:10] Live sound varies from venue to venue and is very different from studio sound. [00:18:31] Does Scottie attend rehearsals as well?  [00:20:30] How do artists differ in how they set up their live shows with regard to structure? [00:22:04] Learn more about the shift from recording to live shows.  [00:24:25] What was it like working with Prince behind the scenes?  [00:28:58] How did rehearsals with Prince go?  [00:31:46] Scottie shares what it was like recording the One Nite Alone album. [00:35:10] Is Scottie’s level of depth in understanding the material typical of sound engineers?  [00:38:19] What was it like working with the guest stars that came into the shows?  [00:39:57] Were the after parties epic? [00:42:55] Does Scottie know what is going to happen with all the recordings of Prince’s live show?  [00:44:23] Scottie shares some of his experiences with other bands. [00:46:10] Learn about his time working with Stevie Wonder. [00:48:36] How did the tour with Madonna go?  [00:51:46] Scottie divulges his experiences with Lady Gaga. [00:54:09] What is it like working with Wang Leehom?  [00:57:40] Does he have any favorite equipment or brand?  [01:01:40] Scottie shares his love for The Music Makers.   LINKS & RESOURCES   Scottie Baldwin: www.scottiebaldwin.com Twitter: @scottiebaldwin Instagram: scottiebaldwin Mentioned:  Episode 15 Greg Boyer: Trombonist Formerly with Prince and P-Funk   Follow The Music Makers:  The Music Makers on Instagram   The Music Makers podcast theme song was written and produced by Andy Kushner with help from the rhythm section and horn players of the band, SoundConnection: Elliot Jefferson, Lamonte Silver, Keith Hammond, Roy Lambert, Joe Herrera, and Craig Alston.   Sponsor: Kushner Entertainment    Check out Andy's Other Podcast: The Wedding Biz

Toni Menage has a career most aspiring singers envy. She’s toured the world with Lisa-Lisa Cult Jam, sang with and was produced by the legendary Stevie Wonder, and performed on legendary television shows including Soul Train, The Grammy’s The Arsenio Hall Show, and many others. But her path to get there was not as full of rainbows as you might think. Andy and Toni discuss what it’s like to grow up as an up and coming singer in the projects of Harlem, and how she first got noticed by a producer when she was in just 7th grade and had a hit song on the radio! For Toni, there were plenty of big star-struck moments, as well as a few regrettable ones too, as she recollects in this week’s podcast. Listen to the full interview to hear about Toni’s upbringing in the music business, what she wishes she knew then that she knows now, how her consulting business gives other up and coming singers all the tools to succeed in the industry, and who her true inspirations are. Check it out now. Links So Disrespectful Music Project Orange Music Instagram Twitter SoundConnection   The Music Makers podcast theme song was written and produced by Andy Kushner with help from the rhythm section and horn players of the band, SoundConnection: Elliot Jefferson, Lamonte Silver, Keith Hammond, Roy Lambert, Joe Herrera, and Craig Alston. Sponsor: Kushner Entertainment    Check out Andy's Other Podcast: The Wedding Biz 

Imagine getting the opportunity to work with Steely Dan, George Benson, and Willie Nelson. Sometimes, our goals and dreams are just fun words that sound nice rolling off the tongue, yet have nothing to back them up. This is not the case with Dave Russell. Dave went from sweeping floors at a music studio to becoming a multi-Grammy Award Winning Recording Engineer. Join us today as Dave shares his experience of working in the music industry and advice he has to offer.   When we’re working towards a new goal, one question we hear is “how bad do you want it?” What are you willing to do to succeed? How hard are you willing to work? Sometimes, our goals and dreams are just fun words that sound nice rolling off the tongue, yet have nothing to back them up. This is not the case with Dave Russell. Dave went from sweeping floors at a music studio to becoming a multi-Grammy Award Winning Recording Engineer. Join us today as Dave shares his experience of working in the music industry and advice he has to offer. Show Highlights How Dave literally worked from the bottom up What artists look for when creating new records Working on Steely Dan’s record, “Two Against Nature,” winning Dave multiple Grammys. The reason Dave quit playing guitar Working with Walter Becker, Willie Nelson, George Benson, Michael McDonald, Dan Folgelberg and more. The relationship between Recording Engineer and Producer The most memorable albums Dave’s worked on over the years The problem he has with mixing Digital versus Analog Resources: Dave’s Website   SoundConnection   The Music Makers podcast theme song was written and produced by Andy Kushner with help from the rhythm section and horn players of the band, SoundConnection: Elliot Jefferson, Lamonte Silver, Keith Hammond, Roy Lambert, Joe Herrera, and Craig Alston. Sponsor: Kushner Entertainment    Check out Andy's Other Podcast: The Wedding Biz boosts#toggleFormOnEscOrEnter" data-boosts-adding-class="boosts--adding" data-boosts-deleting-class="boost--deleting"> boosts#expandForm" aria-label="Add a boost" data-target= "boosts.label"> 

Not everyone in the music industry has known that’s where they wanted to be at an early age. In the case of Beth Laird, a forced internship with her childhood nanny, resulted in finding a life-long passion and drive for music and artists. Beth is the CEO and founder of Creative Nation Music and has been turning Nashville on its head for years.  Her perspective on mindset and courage is truly amazing. It was her courage to make shifts and try new things that pushed her to greater and greater heights in the music industry. That same courage helped her to step into her own publishing company when she realized that she was not meant to serve the masses.  The experiences she gained while working with country music legends helped her to start and grow her own publishing company. She now focuses more energy on fewer people and is dedicated to helping them build the life and careers that they love.  Creative Nation has had 17 #1 hit songs (so far!) and has had songs recorded by top artists such as Tim McGraw, Carrie Underwood, Little Big Town, John Legend, Kenny Chesney, Lady Antebellum, Blake Shelton, and many others. Creative Nation’s roster includes Lori McKenna, Alec Bailey, Barry Dean, Bear Rinehart, Luke Laird, Casey Brown, Jonathan Hutcherson, Kassi Ashton, Steve Moakler, Travis Wood, and Tyler Johnson.  She credits her faith and her ongoing relationship with her therapist for helping her to put into place a super positive workplace culture. Her staff, and the artists and writers that she works with, are all like family and they have very specific guidelines for anyone new coming into their sphere. Listen as she shares her story in the music industry. Everything that she has been through, all the good and the bad, have led her to an amazing place and she is so excited to share her dream with her family.  We even touch on women in the music industry and her thoughts and the disparity in success between genders. While she thinks we can do better, she also has a powerful way of dealing with that disparity. Listen in to learn more. Show Highlights:   [01:37] Beth has had an amazing run in Music City. Listen as she shares her “big” break. [03:19] Did she have an interest in the music industry when she started interning?  [05:32] Listen as Beth shares why being open to opportunity is so important in life.  [08:34] Even though she was scared to make career moves, she did them anyway.  [11:07] It’s so important to take calculated risks rather than simply leaping into decisions.  [12:13] Why therapy has made all the difference in her life and business.  [14:01] What happened after college?  [17:43] Beth shares the story of how she and her husband Luke met.  [18:28] What is a song plugger?  [20:32] Why her experience at BMI was transformative.  [23:08] Learn why the job became too much and she started to burn out.  [25:43] Beth and co-owner Luke used their own money to bankroll Creative Nation. Learn why. [29:09] Her boss at BMI was one of her biggest supporters in building Creative Nation.  [31:09] Why it was so important for them to have a 5-year business plan. [33:30] Moving from years 1-5 to years 5-10 is really like doubling down.  [34:59] How did they sign Lori McKenna?  [38:14] Why doing it all for a small set of people really fits Beth’s personality.  [40:05] What are they looking for when they sign new artists and writers.  [43:34] Are things different for staff writers versus independent writers?  [46:40] Is it harder for songwriters to earn now?  [48:33] Do women still struggle to have equal success in the country music industry?  [54:40] What advice would Beth give to an aspiring publishing company owner?  [56:27] Beth shares her advice for aspiring staff writers.    LINKS & RESOURCES   Beth Laird: Creative Nation Music@creativenationmusic on Instagram@bethmasonlaird on Instagram   Follow The Music Makers:  The Music Makers on Instagram   The Music Makers podcast theme song was written and produced by Andy Kushner with help from the rhythm section and horn players of the band, SoundConnection: Elliot Jefferson, Lamonte Silver, Keith Hammond, Roy Lambert, Joe Herrera, and Craig Alston.   Sponsor: Kushner Entertainment    Check out Andy's Other Podcast: The Wedding Biz

From harmonica to trombone, Greg Boyer has played it all. His natural talent and passion for music has seen him through decades in the music business playing with everyone from P-Funk to Maceo to Prince. Listen in as we chat about his perfect pitch, natural ear, and progression through several instruments until he landed on trombone.  Greg started in music at a very early age. He recounts finding his father’s harmonica and being so jazzed to play it. The harmonica playing ended but his love for music persevered. It wasn’t until his time at St. Mary’s when he realized the trombone was his preferred instrument. It wasn’t long until he was auditioning for and playing with Parliament Funkadelic. Their laid-back style and focus on amazing music influenced his personal style for years to come… until he started playing with Maceo.  His link with Maceo led him to working with Prince and the stories he has to tell about those years are amazing. Prince’s drive and vision are legendary, but to have actually rehearsed and performed with him was something else.  Listen in as Greg recounts years of history in the music industry, his style of arranging horn charts, and why he appreciates his wife every day for keeping him grounded. With amazing natural talent and a drive to work, he would drown in the mundane if it weren’t for his wife constantly bringing him back to the present.  This was an amazing conversation! Show Highlights: [00:00:50] Welcome Greg Boyer, a multi-instrumentalist who has worked with numerous big names.  [00:01:53] Why he was known as “Spiderman.”  [00:03:09] When did he know that music was what he wanted to do?  [00:06:45] What was the first instrument that Greg learned to play and he took off with? [00:09:40] Learn what it takes to play brass. [00:12:32] Why playing brass takes a whole separate set of chops.  [00:13:43] Greg shares why his gift became a bit of a curse when it came to education.  [00:16:33] How did he feel when he left college?  [00:19:29] What was it like the first time Greg got to play with Parliament-Funkadelic? [00:21:03] Did he know all about P-Funk before he joined them?  [00:24:31] So… did they rehearse before this first gig?  [00:25:39] What is Greg’s personal style when it comes to arranging horn parts?  [00:28:47] How did rehearsals go with P-Funk?  [00:30:20] Greg shares what it was like to be on stage so many performers at a time.  [00:34:25] P-Funk was like a rockstar group… What was the offstage climate like?  [00:36:50] How was working with Maceo different than playing with P-Funk?  [00:38:50] Was he already a fan of Prince before working with him?  [00:42:58] What was it like to work and rehearse with and for Prince?  [00:48:27] Would Prince give input on the horn parts?  [00:50:17] How did the visual aspect of the performances change over time?  [00:52:22] Why working with Prince was like being in the fire department.  [00:55:27] Which Prince record was his favorite to work on?  [00:59:21] What was it like to be living on the road like that?  [01:00:52] Greg shares what it was like to work with some of the other big names. [01:05:52] … and in between tours he was a… [01:07:47] What is the premise behind the Beltway Horns?  [01:09:09] How did he come up with the Greg Boyer Peloton?  [01:10:56] Connect with Greg.   LINKS & RESOURCES   Greg Boyer: Greg’s Website   Follow The Music Makers:  The Music Makers on Instagram   The Music Makers podcast theme song was written and produced by Andy Kushner with help from the rhythm section and horn players of the band, SoundConnection: Elliot Jefferson, Lamonte Silver, Keith Hammond, Roy Lambert, Joe Herrera, and Craig Alston.   Sponsor: Kushner Entertainment    Check out Andy's Other Podcast: The Wedding Biz

The history of country music is long and storied and there are few alive today that can speak to it in the same way as iconic country music producer Tony Brown. From his beginnings in Southern Gospel music, through his time performing with Elvis, into producing hit records for huge country music stars, Tony has a lot to share.    Tony grew up with an evangelist for a father. He and his family traveled around playing at different kinds of churches and his love for music blossomed. He was only allowed to listen to Christian music as a young child but credits the variety and soul for his long-standing love of music.    When he left home, he started working as a pianist and was found by Elvis. Tony knew of Elvis and knew he was a big celebrity, but wasn’t aware of his background in the church. Elvis specifically picked him to join the band because of Tony’s history of performing in the gospel music scene.   From there, he spent a number of years performing with Elvis, Emmylou Harris, and a variety of other huge names. He later made his way into producing music and became the President of MCA, Nashville. He has worked with numerous superstars and had his hand in producing some of the biggest country music albums in the history of the genre.    Listen as he shares stories about the creation of specific songs and why he chose to write his book. Tony’s trek through his memory and all the amazing people he’s met and tales he’s been a part of are truly a delight to listen to. You’ll find no better recount of country music from the 60’s and 70’s to today.   Show Highlights:   [00:01:27] Welcome Tony Brown to the show to chat about his role in country music. [00:02:20] When did Tony know that he was meant to be in music.  [00:04:40] How much did Tony know about Elvis when he started working with him?  [00:07:10] What was Elvis like as a band leader?  [00:09:44] How old was Tony when he started working with Elvis and Emmylou Harris? [00:12:13] Learn more about how Tony signed Alabama. [00:15:10] What milestones did he learn from Jimmy Bowen about being a producer?  [00:17:48] Why producing music starts with the song.  [00:20:41] Tony shares more about the people he admired and what he learned from them about the industry.  [00:24:15] Did Tony ever work with the writers to alter the songs?  [00:28:51] Tony tells the story of Wynonna cutting a Dave Loggins’ song for her album.  [00:32:29] How did Vince Gil’s “Go Rest High on that Mountain” come about?  [00:36:22] What’s the story behind Trisha Yearwood’s version of “How do I Live?” [00:43:21] Tony recounts the records he most enjoyed producing. [00:44:56] How does Tony feel about his career so far?  [00:47:56] His work has positively impacted people and that is so fulfilling.  [00:52:42] The Americana chart is a breeding ground for the next round of country radio. [00:55:16] Success is gauged by the artist’s desires. [00:56:16] What is Tony doing these days to stay relevant?  [01:00:30] How is Covid going to affect the music industry?  [01:03:38] Listen as Tony shares his experience with writing a photo book.  [01:07:20] Tony gives a little more background on the book and how the title came about.    LINKS & RESOURCES   Tony Brown: Tony’s Book - Elvis, Strait, to Jesus by Tony Brown Tony Brown Enterprises Tony on Facebook Tony on YouTube   Follow The Music Makers:  The Music Makers on Instagram   The Music Makers podcast theme song was written and produced by Andy Kushner with help from the rhythm section and horn players of the band, SoundConnection: Elliot Jefferson, Lamonte Silver, Keith Hammond, Roy Lambert, Joe Herrera, and Craig Alston.   Sponsor: Kushner Entertainment    Check out Andy's Other Podcast: The Wedding Biz

Get ready to listen to Greg share stories of working with the likes of John Lennon, David Bowie, Bruce Springsteen, and so many others.The art and science of crafting amazing sounding music has grown and evolved over the years. Greg Calbi has been a part of that evolution ever since the 60s and 70s. He started as a musician himself and after deciding against continuing post-graduate work, he found himself presented with the opportunity of a lifetime.  While he wasn’t given the keys to a top office, he was given the opportunity to learn from the best in the business at mastering and mixing. He’s since become a paragon of knowledge regarding the mastering process through the ages.  The breadth of his knowledge about the industry as a whole and what it takes to be an amazing mastering engineer is immense. He walks through the changes in how music is mastered from the late 60s to the present.  It is that history and his seasoned way of looking at and listening to music that makes him a master in his craft. Listen as Greg takes us down memory lane in the music business and shares the work he’s most proud of in recent years.    Show Highlights: [00:10] Listen as Andy introduces Greg Calbi and his huge body of mastering work.  [03:03] What is mastering versus mixing?  [04:39] When did the passion for music hit Greg?  [07:23] Greg shares his experience of hearing the Beatles in New York. [09:43] What was Greg interesting in doing as he took his college courses?  [12:24] How he moved into the music industry rather than finishing his post-graduate degree.  [15:12] Listen as Greg explains how his role expanded and evolved.  [19:17] What did Greg think when he heard Stevie Wonder’s work?  [22:26] Greg shares his experiences with building confidence and skill over time.  [24:40] Hear Greg chat about one of his favorite memories of working with John Lennon. [27:07] What was it like to work on David Bowie’s Young Americans? [29:57] Was Bruce Springsteen more involved in the process?  [34:24] How does Greg feel about the importance of dynamics?  [37:34] What were the highlights of his days working at Sterling in the 70’s and 80’s?  [40:14] How has his work changed as the industry moved into digital and streaming?  [45:45] Greg shares his advice for the musician who is looking to do their mastering on their own.  [48:25] Learn how you can find the right mastering engineer for your project.  [52:20] What is Greg’s favorite tech gear right now?  [53:59] Hear the albums Greg is most proud of in recent years.    LINKS & RESOURCES   Greg Calbi: Sterling SoundSterling Sound on FacebookSterling Sound on Twitter Sterling Sound on Instagram   Follow The Music Makers:  The Music Makers on Instagram   Sponsor: Kushner Entertainment    The Music Makers podcast theme song was written and produced by Andy Kushner with help from the rhythm section and horn players of the band, SoundConnection: Elliot Jefferson, Lamonte Silver, Keith Hammond, Roy Lambert, Joe Herrera, and Craig Alston.   Check out Andy's Other Podcast: The Wedding Biz

What else is there when you’ve been one of the most influential people in the music world to date? For decades, Mr. Davis has helped spread the joy, love, and heartbreak that comes from amazing lyrics and inspiring musicians. Clive Davis has had a long and storied career in the music industry. He’s been the founder and head of several successful record labels and one of the key players in finding and promoting amazing talent as well as finding some of the greatest songs of all time. He is behind the likes of Whitney Houston, Alicia Keys, Aretha Franklin, Santana, Dionne Warwick, Maroon 5 and so many more. Andy actually met Clive 40 years ago after he gave a talk at Harvard University and so this interview is one of the highlights of his life and career. Listen in as Clive shares his thoughts on the state of the music industry today, what it takes to be an amazing artist or performer, and why he feels that he’s been lucky and blessed throughout his career.  Clive is truly an inspiration and a role model. If you ever feel like giving up, take a moment and watch his documentary on Netflix, Clive Davis: The Soundtrack of Our Lives.  Or, read his autobiography, The Soundtrack of My Life. This man has persevered through so many starts and stops and continues to do amazing work in the music industry today.  Listen in to learn what’s coming up next and why he has no intention of stepping away from music as long as he is on this Earth.   Show Highlights: [00:18] Learn more about Clive Davis’s background and musical credits.  [01:27] Andy shares the first time he ever met Clive.  [04:54] How does Clive feel about his ability to find amazing talent time after time?  [06:55] Clive shares his thoughts on being able to spot talent and run successful labels. [08:57] What do all self-contained artists have in common? [12:18] Why stage presence is so important in a live show.  [15:16] What do entertainers have in common?  [22:36] How do you successfully deal with the volatility of artists?  [26:20] What was it like working with Sly?  [29:36] Clive shares his philosophy on running a company and a team.  [32:30] Where did he find his ability to constantly thrive through hardship?  [42:28] How will the music industry be impacted by the pandemic?  [46:56] Clive has built quite a legacy. How does feel about this and aging?   LINKS & RESOURCES   The Music Makers podcast theme song was written and produced by Andy Kushner with help from the rhythm section and horn players of the band, SoundConnection: Elliot Jefferson, Lamonte Silver, Keith Hammond, Roy Lambert, Joe Herrera, and Craig Alston. Follow The Music Makers:  The Music Makers on Instagram Sponsor: Kushner Entertainment  Check out Andy's Other Podcast: The Wedding Biz Clive Davis: Netflix Documentary - Clive Davis: The Soundtrack of Our Lives Autobiography - The Soundtrack of My Life by Clive Davis Clive on Twitter Instagram: @CliveJDavis Facebook: @MrCliveDavis

Learning the art of using your voice as an instrument is one that takes a lifetime of practice to master. Professor William Riley has been teaching vocal technique to hundreds of elite performers for decades. Professor Riley and I got to spend a bit of time together last year to chat about his background, his career, and what it has been like to work with so many household names over the years.  He himself is an award-winning baritone, an operatic stage director, conductor, and writer. He has spent his life learning the language of music and how to help others speak it fluently. His music career started in Los Angeles where he met such greats as Michael Jackson, Stevie Wonder, Jimmy Webb, and so many more. Eventually, he realized his true passion was helping singers who were experiencing vocal distress to heal their voices so that they could keep performing.  He went on to study vocal anatomy and has been a student of healing techniques for decades. Simply by helping vocalists change their habits, posture, and vocal routines, he has helped heal and correct years of damage.  Listen in as he shares stories from working with Celine Dion, Whitney Houston, and Bill Clinton. He also gives us a peek into what it takes to be a truly iconic vocalist and star. Professor Riley is an icon in the music industry and his advice and experience are invaluable. Show Highlights: [00:02:22] Learn more about Professor Riley’s childhood and musical background.  [00:06:36] How he learned to use his voice as an instrument. [00:08:15] Professor Riley shares his path to becoming a professor of music.  [00:10:55] He started working with Capitol Records and met several big stars.  [00:13:06] Getting to talk with and learn from these artists was invaluable. [00:15:02] The difference between songwriting now and in decades prior. [00:17:50] What causes us to connect with music.  [00:19:12] When did he move into vocal teaching and why?  [00:22:00] How did he learn so much about the anatomy of the throat and vocal cords?  [00:28:18] How you can create an emotional connection through psychological triggers.  [00:30:42] Professor Riley shares how he coached Celine Dion to save her voice.  [00:35:34] Why you need humidity for healthy vocal cords..  [00:35:57] Learn more about the story behind Celine’s recording of the iconic his song, My Heart Will Go On. [00:37:34] Working with Whitney Houston was a study in overcoming ego.  [00:41:35] What makes a great singer into an iconic singer?  [00:43:00] Learn more about Aretha Franklin’s voice. [00:45:57] Professor Riley defines replicability.  [00:47:46] How do iconic singers manage the ego and the pressure to get better and better?  [50:03] Even the most steadfast stars have their own personal demons to overcome.  [00:53:57] It’s all about how the singer comes out of their struggles that defines their success.  [00:57:10] What you can do to be as healthy as possible and maintain your vocal cords. [01:02:27] What does the environment for up and coming singers look like today?  [01:04:18] Connect with Professor Riley. LINKS & RESOURCES Follow The Music Makers:  Sponsor: Kushner Entertainment  William Riley: Professor Riley’s WebsiteEmail: wrileysing@aol.com    SoundConnection   The Music Makers podcast theme song was written and produced by Andy Kushner with help from the rhythm section and horn players of the band, SoundConnection: Elliot Jefferson, Lamonte Silver, Keith Hammond, Roy Lambert, Joe Herrera, and Craig Alston. Sponsor: Kushner Entertainment    Check out Andy's Other Podcast: The Wedding Biz  

Lesly Simon is the General Manager of Garth Brooks and Trisha Yearwood's record labels, Pearl Records and Gwendolyn Records, respectively. Listen as she shares her rise through the ranks in the music industry and why it’s so important to treat your team with kindness and respect. Lesly has loved music her entire life. Never just one genre either, but all of them. They all had an emotion or message to share. After going to college to become an accountant, she realized that she had bigger dreams. She started off being a nanny to a prominent drag racer and started to see the inner workings of sports marketing and management. Fast-forward about a year and she made the decision to move to Nashville and pursue a career in music. Lesly started on the ground floor as an assistant to an exec at a famed record label and her career took off from there. Listen as she shares stories of her work with the greats of 90’s country and how she found herself in a position to now be the General Manager of Pearl and Gwendolyn records. She has persevered through immense personal obstacles and is truly living the life of her dreams.  In a time that seems so bleak, you won’t want to miss this story of self-discovery and triumph. Lesly is raw and real in this interview. She doesn’t hold anything back, which is how we should all strive to live. Show Highlights: [01:00] Lesly grew up loving music but studied to go into accounting.  [04:02] Where did Lesly find the courage to not only pursue her career but also move to a whole new city?  [05:48] How did she break into the music industry in Nashville?  [08:26] Learn everything you can in the position that you’re in and dig into your work ethic and you’ll find your place. [10:08] Where did she go after being an assistant at RCA?  [12:21] What was it like to work on tour with the greats of 90’s country music?  [13:55] Lesly shares what it means to be a Regional Promotions Manager. [15:28] How she came up with fun promotions for radio. [17:21] The positions she took between Capitol and becoming the General Manager of two record labels. [19:41] What was it like to work with Carrie Underwood?  [21:38] How did she find her way to Pearl and Gwendolyn records? [24:37] Why did Garth feel he was no longer a part of the record label world?  [27:03] Learn more about working with Trisha Yearwood and whether there are plans to sign other artists. [29:17] How are Garth and Trisha dealing with the pandemic?  [31:18] Lesly shares her battle with cancer and how she’s dealt professionally as well. [34:47] Her experience has helped her to become a better friend and coworker and the pandemic is doing the same thing. [36:55] What are her plans moving forward with the labels when we come out of this time? LINKS & RESOURCES Follow The Music Makers:  Sponsor: Kushner Entertainment    Lesly Simon: Lesly's Social Media: instagram.com/leslysimon72/ Tune in to Garth Brooks every Monday at 7pm ET for Inside Studio G facebook.com/GarthBrooks   Mentioned during the interview:Brett Culp on The Wedding Biz SoundConnection   The Music Makers podcast theme song was written and produced by Andy Kushner with help from the rhythm section and horn players of the band, SoundConnection: Elliot Jefferson, Lamonte Silver, Keith Hammond, Roy Lambert, Joe Herrera, and Craig Alston. Sponsor: Kushner Entertainment    Check out Andy's Other Podcast: The Wedding Biz

Jeff Coffin, currently a permanent member of The Dave Matthews Band, is an award-winning saxophonist and composer, and truly prides himself on his method of education. No matter the awards he has won, educating the next generation of artists takes precedence.  He credits his love of teaching to his own mentors as well as his experiences with high school and college professors. There is no reason why teachers of music should belittle others in their pursuit of knowledge. Instead, he takes a more roundabout though intentional approach, allowing his students to back into the knowledge he shares. To really drive his method home, Jeff brings out his saxophone and demonstrates the power of taking a more vocal approach to musical arrangements. The reason Jeff is so passionate about education and leadership is because he had the privilege of learning under true masters. Between Joe Lovano, Bela Fleck, and Dave Matthews, he’s seen the power of strong leadership and hopes to instill that in the next generation. Listen in as Jeff shares stories of his time with Bela Fleck and Dave Matthews. Be sure to pay attention to his musical runs and the way he teaches through experience. Jeff is an inspiring teacher and his passion is undeniable throughout his conversation with Andy.    Show Highlights: [00:47] When was Jeff bitten by the music bug?  [02:50] How the melody of vocals affects the way he plays. [06:50] Following vocalists has helped solidify the importance of phrasing in instrumentation. [10:14] Jeff plays out his point on vocals and phrasing on his sax.  [13:12] His method for learning phrasing works for any player at any level. [15:36] Why the root of the word “education” is the philosophy Jeff takes toward teaching. [19:26] Jeff shares the key takeaways he had from his college experience at UNT. [23:11] He reminisces about his time under Joe Lovano. [25:15] What were some of the highlights of studying with Joe?  [29:28] Learn more about Jeff’s relationship with Bela Fleck. [31:37] Hear one specific story that illustrates Jeff’s relationship with Bela.  [33:36] What has Jeff gotten out of being under the leadership of Dave Matthews?  [34:38] Dave and Bela both lead by not leading. [36:02] How does Jeff balance being on the road, teaching, and playing?  [39:24] Why the trombone is closest to the human voice in sound. [40:55] Learn more about Jeff’s livestream broadcasts in his studio. [44:44] Need a checklist for what you need before going on the road? Check out Jeff’s books. LINKS & RESOURCES   Follow The Music Makers Sponsor: Kushner Entertainment    Jeff Coffin:Jeff’s Website Jeff on Facebook Jeff on InstagramJeff on Twitter iTA Studio Streams on InstagramEar Up Records Social Media on InstagramJeff’s ShopJeff’s Latest MusicThe Saxophone Book    Mentioned during the interview:Joe Lovano Bela Fleck Dave Matthews Band   SoundConnection   The Music Makers podcast theme song was written and produced by Andy Kushner with help from the rhythm section and horn players of the band, SoundConnection: Elliot Jefferson, Lamonte Silver, Keith Hammond, Roy Lambert, Joe Herrera, and Craig Alston. Sponsor: Kushner Entertainment    Check out Andy's Other Podcast: The Wedding Biz

Robert Kraft’s list of accomplishments is nothing short of incredible. He was the President of 20th Century Fox Music for 18 years, supervising the music and film scores for blockbusters like Titanic, Avatar, and Slumdog Millionaire as well as for hit television shows like The X-Files and The Simpsons. Under his leadership, Fox Music garnered numerous Academy Award nominations and awards, Emmys, Golden Globes, and Grammys. He is also an award-winning songwriter, film composer, recording artist, and record producer. His talent is multifaceted and far-reaching, as is evident in today’s interview. Andy and Robert delve into the journey he went on to achieve these great moments in his career, starting with his love of all things musical as a young child. Robert’s story is all about jumping at the chance to try something you’ve never done before, and knowing that your own passion and determination will inform the task ahead of you. The pair also discuss how his role at 20th Century Fox fit him like a glove, what the process is like to supervise the music on a big budget movie, and Robert’s interesting view on how music and movies intertwine.  And with his current venture Kraftbox Entertainment, he’s not slowing down anytime soon. Anyone looking to hear about the inner workings of music production and how the cogs of a Hollywood film work will find today’s The Music Makers episode deeply enjoyable. Links Robert Kraft [Website] Robert's podcast, Score Robert's documentary, Score SoundConnection   The Music Makers podcast theme song was written and produced by Andy Kushner with help from the rhythm section and horn players of the band, SoundConnection: Elliot Jefferson, Lamonte Silver, Keith Hammond, Roy Lambert, Joe Herrera, and Craig Alston. Sponsor: Kushner Entertainment    Check out Andy's Other Podcast: The Wedding Biz

Today, Andy talks with the brilliant musician most widely known by chart-topping artists themselves: Bashiri Johnson. Bashiri has recorded and/or performed with artistic legends including Beyonce, Madonna, Whitney Houston, the Rolling Stones, Michael Bolton, Cher, Duran Duran, Eric Clapton, James Taylor, Barry Manilow, and Michael Jackson. Growing up in Bedford-Stuyvesant, Brooklyn, NY in the 1960s and 70s, Bashiri was a talented risk-taker, self-described as “always in motion, never still.” Since he first started formally playing percussion—as opposed to jamming out on chairs and desks—in his freshman year of high school, Bashiri has played everywhere he could. In fact, Bashiri was so driven to perform, he even snuck backstage at a Miles Davis concert to see Mtume—then asked for percussion lessons. As luck had it, Mtume agreed to hang out with Bashiri, which led to a three year mentorship that served to launch the rest of Bashiri’s nonstop creative lifestyle for decades to come. Not only does Bashiri explore his near-meditative approach to his “first listens,” but he describes some of his favorite memories at length, including adding a twist while recording “Never Too Much” by Luther Vandross, recording on a Miles Davis song, performing live with Aretha Franklin at Radio City Music Hall, and working alongside the iconic artist, Michael Jackson. In his characteristic candor, Bashiri reveals the key personality traits that drove him to share what he loves most with the world. Links Bashiri Johnson Bashiri Johnson Presents SKINS – Sample Library About Bashiri’s New Single Release, “Amore Is Love” Facebook Twitter LinkedIn YouTube Wikipedia 1. “African Garden” — BASHIRI JOHNSON 4:33 2. “A Is For Africa” — BASHIRI JOHNSON & D-CROSS 1:44 3. “Orphans Bash Remix” — BASHIRI JOHNSON 4:27 4. “Movin' Home” — BASHIRI JOHNSON 4:07 5. “She's Amazing” — LIONEL RICHIE 4:36       SoundConnection   The Music Makers podcast theme song was written and produced by Andy Kushner with help from the rhythm section and horn players of the band, SoundConnection: Elliot Jefferson, Lamonte Silver, Keith Hammond, Roy Lambert, Joe Herrera, and Craig Alston. Sponsor: Kushner Entertainment    Check out Andy's Other Podcast: The Wedding Biz

Just two years ago Andy and Brent had a wonderful discussion about Brent’s career and the path he was on while working with Lauryn Hill and creating award winning music. They recently reconnected and took a moment to sit down and catch up. Brent shares intimate details about his life on the road, creating new music, and how he’s found balance in his whirlwind career.  When Andy and Brent last spoke, Brent was beginning to work with Eric Benet and had been journeying with Lauryn Hill. He delves deep into what it was like to work with Lauryn and her crew and how working with her helped define how he wanted to work within his own band. Brent also takes a minute to share how parting ways with Lauryn gave him the time and space to create his own solo music. His album has been complete for several years now but timing and proper marketing are the keys to success in the music world. Learn more about the process Brent has gone through to bring his most recent album to light. There are a ton of steps, some of which even Andy was surprised to hear. Everything that you see and hear regarding an artist’s music is carefully orchestrated to best position their work within the specific venue.  Brent and Andy finish their conversation digging deep into balancing work, life, family, and responsibility while growing a thriving brand and career. The work of an artist is never done and sometimes finding the time to create as well as develop a nurturing family space is a difficult task. Brent has made a lot of strides to find balance in his life and his balance has affected those around him as well. Listen in to learn more about the life of an amazing recording artist and how passion, creativity, and drive change over time. Brent knows that he has found his calling and with the help of his heroes and mentors, knows how to make sure his calling remains profitable. If you haven’t listened to part I, go back and do it now! Then take a moment to see how much has changed in just a couple of years. Show Highlights:   [00:11] Andy re-introduces Brent Birckhead, here to continue his story two years later.  [02:53] Quick recap of where Brent was in his career and personal life during the first interview. [03:48] Brent shares a glimpse of what it was like working with Lauryn Hill. [10:39] Who else has Brent’s horn group been working with?  [13:43] Learn how the gig with Laryn ended and why that pushed Brent to reinvest in himself and his music.[18:37] Brent shares the process for creating his album art and working with an artist. [20:46] What is the story behind Brent’s new album and his new outlook on life? [29:18] How intermittent fasting has helped increase Brent’s energy levels and creativity. [33:46] When did the record officially get released? What was the process? [37:27] Why you shouldn’t be afraid to learn from and talk to your heroes and mentors. [40:58] What projects are in the fire for Brent right now?  [45:28] Brent describes his creative process for creating new material. [53:00] How has Brent found balance in his life? [01:00:40] Connect with Brent.   LINKS & RESOURCES Brent Birckhead:Brent’s Website Brent’s Music Brent on InstagramBrent on FacebookBrent on TwitterBrent on YouTube   Mentioned during the interview:The Obstacle is the Way by Ryan Holiday The Wedding Biz   SoundConnection   The Music Makers podcast theme song was written and produced by Andy Kushner with help from the rhythm section and horn players of the band, SoundConnection: Elliot Jefferson, Lamonte Silver, Keith Hammond, Roy Lambert, Joe Herrera, and Craig Alston. Sponsor: Kushner Entertainment    Check out Andy's Other Podcast: The Wedding Biz

Under the tutelage of Louis Tibbs and Charlie Young, Brent Birckhead has become a dynamically versatile saxophonist of many genres. With a unique style born of his deep passion for the art of music, Birckhead has established himself as one of the bright young musical voices of his generation. Educated at Howard University (BME, MM), Brent was named best blues/pop/rock soloist and outstanding instrumental jazz soloist by Downbeat Magazine as part of the annual Student Music Awards. The Baltimore native’s talent earned him the honor of gracing the same stage as many legendary performers including Benny Golson, Joe Chambers, McCoy Tyner, Andrew Cyrille, Eric Benet, George Duke, Stanley Clarke, Earl Klugh, Frank McComb, Bilal, Lauryn Hill and many more. He has also performed at some of the world’s most prestigious venues such as Blue Note NYC, Beacon Theater, Ginny’s Supper Club, Blues Alley, 9:30 Club, Highline Ballroom, Key Club LA, Merriweather Post Pavilion, Billboard Tokyo and Osaka, and the Apollo Theater. In 2014, Birckhead joined the faculty at Morgan State University. He currently resides in New York City. Bashiri Johnson, mentioned briefly in the conversation with Brent, is a brilliant celebrity percussionist who will appear in an upcoming episode. The Music Makers podcast theme song was written and produced by Andy Kushner with help from the rhythm section and horn players of the band, SoundConnection: Elliot Jefferson, Lamonte Silver, Keith Hammond, Roy Lambert, Joe Herrera, and Craig Alston.  Music   1. “The Mourning After” — BRENT BIRCKHEAD 5:13 2. “The Ivory Antidote” — BRENT BIRCKHEAD 7:41 3. “Someday We’ll All Be Free” — BRENT BIRCKHEAD 5:49 Links Brent Birckhead The Ivory Antidote [iTunes, Amazon Music, Google Music, Spotify] “Doo Wop (That Thing)” performed by Lauryn Hill with Brent “Jammin/Master Blaster” performed by Lauren Hill with Brent Brent wth Joe Jonas and DNCE SoundConnection videos with Brent, SoundConnection “Live” In Singapore “Superstition” performed by SoundConnection with Brent [video] [audio] Brent with SoundConnection Bren with DNCE Brent on The Music Makers podcast SoundConnection   The Music Makers podcast theme song was written and produced by Andy Kushner with help from the rhythm section and horn players of the band, SoundConnection: Elliot Jefferson, Lamonte Silver, Keith Hammond, Roy Lambert, Joe Herrera, and Craig Alston. Sponsor: Kushner Entertainment    Check out Andy's Other Podcast: The Wedding Biz

When we think about our favorite songs, we tend to think of the artist who sings them. What we don’t think about, however, is the amount of work and people that went into bringing it to life. The way artists have hundreds of people working to create tomorrow’s top hits, it takes just as many to put together a show to honor music and its makers. Today, Branden Chapman, Executive In Charge Of Production and Chief Business Development Officer, shares how he followed his passion for music and how it led to becoming a major executive and producer for the Recording Academy and Grammys.   Show Highlights The 2 things Branden always starts his projects with The importance of process management and creating a budget timeline What all goes into making the Grammys a success The impact gratitude has when working with a team The Academy and its work in promoting fair wages for those working behind the scenes How Branden manages his many responsibilities and holds onto his sanity The most important part that goes into making the Grammys happen Branden shares his experience of the night Whitney Houston died Branden’s opinion about the future of the music business The importance of diversity for Grammy voters Resources: Grammy Website Grammy Recording Academy Music Cares Charity Grammy Museum Donate   The Music Makers podcast theme song was written and produced by Andy Kushner with help from the rhythm section and horn players of the band, SoundConnection: Elliot Jefferson, Lamonte Silver, Keith Hammond, Roy Lambert, Joe Herrera, and Craig Alston.   SoundConnection   The Music Makers podcast theme song was written and produced by Andy Kushner with help from the rhythm section and horn players of the band, SoundConnection: Elliot Jefferson, Lamonte Silver, Keith Hammond, Roy Lambert, Joe Herrera, and Craig Alston. Sponsor: Kushner Entertainment    Check out Andy's Other Podcast: The Wedding Biz

This week, Andy talks with the artist behind three enormously-popular wedding songs, Edwin McCain. His hit songs, “I’ll Be” and “I Could Not Ask For More,” are both favorite “1st dance” songs, at weddings, and his song “Walk With You” is a moving choice for the father/daughter dance. Edwin’s songs have formed the soundtrack to some of the most pivotal moments in people’s lives that couples and their families will always remember. Edwin first gained industry attention with his indie album, Solitude. He toured extensively, opening up for Hootie and the Blowfish, then signed with the same label (Atlantic Records) to release his first major-label album, Honor Among Thieves. His second album, Misguided Roses, spawned his first major hit single “I’ll Be”—it was featured on the TV show, Higher Ground and in the movie, A Cinderella Story, then absolutely exploded when featured on Dawson’s Creek. His next big hit was his recording and performance of Diane Warren’s song, “I Could Not Ask For More,” which first appeared on the soundtrack of the Kevin Costner/Robin Wright movie Message In A Bottle. The Music Makers podcast theme song was written and produced by Andy Kushner with help from the rhythm section and horn players of the band, SoundConnection: Elliot Jefferson, Lamonte Silver, Keith Hammond, Roy Lambert, Joe Herrera, and Craig Alston.  Links Edwin McCain His new EP O Edwin Where Art Thou?, with “I’m Back,” “8 Miles from a Paved Road,” and “Home.”  YouTube, Amazon, Spotify “I’ll Be” Lyrics, YouTube, Amazon, Spotify “I Could Not Ask For More” Lyrics, YouTube, Amazon, Spotify “Walk With You” Lyrics, YouTube, Amazon, Spotify And more… “Solitude” Honor Among Thieves EDWIN MCCAIN 1. “Solitude” — EDWIN MCCAIN 4:31 2. “Promise of You” — EDWIN MCCAIN 5:33 3. “Wish In This World” — EDWIN MCCAIN 3:46 4. “Home” — EDWIN MCCAIN 3:32   The Music Makers podcast theme song was written and produced by Andy Kushner with help from the rhythm section and horn players of the band, SoundConnection: Elliot Jefferson, Lamonte Silver, Keith Hammond, Roy Lambert, Joe Herrera, and Craig Alston. 

The story of how Andy met Dennis Chambers started with a  music performance he will never forget! Today, we learn how Dennis Chambers became the legendary drummer he is today. From his earliest memories of copying records, on a toy drum kit, to slinging tracks with the likes of John Scofield and Miles Davis, Dennis has a story to tell about everything and you won't stop listening! Like the music he plays, Dennis shares stories with a rhythm and flow that is music to our ears.   Though Dennis is a self-taught musician, he states he learned from the best. He was so good, that his drumming appeared on a gospel record when he was just 7.  As a young teen, James Brown was asked him to play in his band. The names just keep coming!  Dennis has jammed with the likes of P Funk, Steely Dan, Stevie Wonder, Stanley Clark, and Carlos Santana. Across the decades, across jazz, funk, soul, and rock and roll, Dennis has become a master chameleon of rhythm and style. Andy had the opportunity to hear Dennis perform at Blues Alley with Mike Stern, Tom Kennedy, and Randy Brecker – and to watch him play was unbelievable! While seeming completely calm and in control of his craft, Dennis can light up a stadium, like he did beginning as a teenager, during his Parliament Funkadelic days.. His experiences and memories could fill a book, but for now, we’ll settle with a podcast episode. Listen to hear all of these stories of music and soul unfold. Episode Highlights: Dennis shares how he remains so very calm in the middle of mind-bending performances. With a Motown singer mom, music was in Dennis’ DNA. Dennis first picked up a stick when he was 3 years old, and got his first drum kit when he was 4. We discuss how Dennis got his professional start at a very young age. Finding your sound is a constantly evolving process. Dennis shares all of his early influences and inspirations. Playing with P Funk gave him incredible exposure. Hear some of Dennis’ favorite bass players to work with – he has worked with some of the greats! What’s new on the horizon for Dennis. Connect with Dennis Dennis’ Website Here are some of our favorite performances by Dennis: Dennis plays on David Letterman Dennis gets FUNKY at Drum Camp With Mike Stern, Tom Kennedy, and Randy Brecker   Dennis is Sponsored by the following companies:  Pearl     |   Zildjian    |    LP percussion    |   Ddrum electronics    |   Evans Drumheads  The Music Makers podcast theme song was written and produced by Andy Kushner with help from the rhythm section and horn players of the band, SoundConnection: Elliot Jefferson, Lamonte Silver, Keith Hammond, Roy Lambert, Joe Herrera, and Craig Alston.    The Music Makers podcast theme song was written and produced by Andy Kushner with help from the rhythm section and horn players of the band, SoundConnection: Elliot Jefferson, Lamonte Silver, Keith Hammond, Roy Lambert, Joe Herrera, and Craig Alston. 

Jerry Moss is a titan in the music industry. He, along with his partner Herb Alpert, was responsible for finding and signing some of the most influential artists ever to record music. Listen in as he talks about his early life, how he got started in the industry, and shares so many amazing stories about his time scouting for talent.  To say that Jerry’s influence in finding and promoting his artists changed the face and sound of music would be a gross understatement. He is responsible for signing artists such as Joe Cocker, Humble Pie and Peter Frampton, The Police and Sting, Janet Jackson, The Carpenters, Carole King, Quincy Jones, and the list goes on and on. By relying on his gut instincts, listening for impactful lyrics, and looking for great performances, he found some of the most iconic acts in rock and roll. Have you heard of Soundgarden? Styx? Nazareth and Bryan Adams?  His long standing presence in the industry is not just a happenstance of fate. He and Herb made it a point to build their business with integrity first. They took care of their artists, respected the creative process, and made working with them a treat rather than a hardship. Andy and Jerry dig deep into generations of the world’s musical past to discuss the changes in the industry, the glory days of music, and what made Jerry finally decide to leave the business behind. Listen to the end to hear about Jerry’s foray into horse racing and what it felt like to win the Kentucky Derby. If you love and respect the history of music, then you will not want to miss this episode.  Show Highlights: [00:22] Learn a bit of history about Andy’s guest, music icon Jerry Moss.  [02:25] Jerry discusses growing up in the Bronx, New York in the 1930’s and 1940’s. [03:33] What motivated Jerry to go into the music industry and how’d he get his start?  [06:59] Jerry shares what his style was in promoting artists and why integrity was so important to him. [09:23] How did Jerry and Herb begin their partnership and become so successful?  [13:16] Learn the secret sauce between Jerry and Herb that helped them stay friends and business partners. [16:17] Where did Jerry’s ear for music come from?  [18:44] Jerry shares how he and Herb split up their responsibilities in the business. [21:35] How did festivals and rock and roll change Jerry’s sense of their label and the artists he wanted to sign? [27:10] What was Jerry looking for when he was looking at an artist?  [30:10] A&M created some big names in music. What did it feel like when they took off on their own success?  [32:18] Learn the philosophy Jerry and Herb stuck to when growing and evolving their business. [33:56] Why did Jerry specifically look for “performers” when signing new talent?  [36:11] Jerry shares why he enjoyed finding international talent.  [37:33] Listen as Jerry reminisces about finding and developing Peter Frampton’s sound.  [40:14] What was it like to work for A&M after he and Herb sold to PolyGram? [43:26] Jerry shares why he jumped back into the scene after leaving PolyGram and winning his fight against prostate cancer. [45:26] Dream big! [46:40] Hear about Jerry’s experience with The Carpenters. [48:33] Did Jerry experience any fear when building the business?  [50:39] Jerry sounds off on several artists that he worked with from The Police, Sting, Carole King, Sheryl Crow, Janet Jackson, and Cheech & Chong. [01:03:18] Andy and Jerry discuss their love of Maui and Shep Gordon. [01:04:00] Hear Jerry’s thoughts on the future of music. [01:06:15] What drew Jerry to thoroughbred racing?  [01:07:18] Jerry shares the philanthropic organizations he is working with and how you can help. [01:09:58] How does Jerry define success?    LINKS & RESOURCES   Follow The Music Makers:    Sponsor: Kushner Entertainment    Jerry Moss:Rock & Roll Hall of Fame 2006 Inductee   Mentioned during the interview:Roy Yamaguchi on Extraordinary Ordinary People Remote Area Medical - Stan Brock The Music Makers podcast theme song was written and produced by Andy Kushner with help from the rhythm section and horn players of the band, SoundConnection: Elliot Jefferson, Lamonte Silver, Keith Hammond, Roy Lambert, Joe Herrera, and Craig Alston. 

Welcome to The Music Makers with Andy Kushner! THE ultimate podcast sharing the behind-the-scenes stories of some of the most influential music industry pros around. Gain insight, education, and inspiration from going deep into the psyches of artists, record producers, songwriters, recording engineers, managers, record industry executives, and more. Crank up the volume and get the inside scoop as you enter the world of...The Music Makers The Music Makers podcast theme song was written and produced by Andy Kushner with help from the rhythm section and horn players of the band, SoundConnection: Elliot Jefferson, Lamonte Silver, Keith Hammond, Roy Lambert, Joe Herrera, and Craig Alston.