A weekly podcast where hosts Erik Torenberg and Nathan Labenz interview the builders on the edge of AI and explore the dramatic shift it will unlock in the coming years.
AI & Identity, from East & West, with Yohei Nakajima GP at Untapped Capital and BabyAGI Creator
In today's episode Yohei Nakajima, GP at Untapped Capital and Creator of BabyAGI, returns to the show. Together with Nathan, they watch Yohei’s TEDAI Talk, unpacking themes on collective intelligence, identity, and how AI can help us better understand one another. If you need an ecommerce platform, check out our sponsor Shopify: https://shopify.com/cognitive for a $1/month trial period.
We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.
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LINKS:
- Yohei's TEDAI Talk: https://www.ai-event.ted.com/panelists/yohei-nakajima
- Listen to Yohei Nakajima Part 1 on The Cognitive Revolution here: https://www.cognitiverevolution.ai/ai-agents-vc-insights-on-ai-and-building-in-public-with-yohei-nakajima-creator-of-babyagi/
SPONSORS:
The Brave search API can be used to assemble a data set to train your AI models and help with retrieval augmentation at the time of inference. All while remaining affordable with developer first pricing, integrating the Brave search API into your workflow translates to more ethical data sourcing and more human representative data sets. Try the Brave search API for free for up to 2000 queries per month at https://brave.com/api
Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitive
Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off www.omneky.com
NetSuite has 25 years of providing financial software for all your business needs. More than 36,000 businesses have already upgraded to NetSuite by Oracle, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you're looking for an ERP platform ✅ head to NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/cognitive and download your own customized KPI checklist.
X/SOCIALS:
@labenz (Nathan)
@yoheinakajima (Yohei)
@CogRev_Podcast
TIMESTAMPS:
(06:39) Yohei's AI Creation Process
(09:50) Differences between models
(15:46) Sponsor - Brave Search API | Shopify
(20:10) Knowledge Graphs
(24:30) Shift to philosophical discussion
(27:40) GPT Store
(30:28) Sponsor - NetSuite | Omneky
(35:40) Eastern Philosophy and Identity
(36:22) How different societies will relate to Ai
(37:00) Appreciate how much philosophy is embedded into language
(39:03) Japan's policy towards AI and individual privacy
(40:15) Eastern philosophy view of the brain
(40:51) AI is a tool much like real intelligence
(42:20) AI in China
(42:46) Collective, extended cognition
(44:10) Emergence in ants
(44:51) Language model performance in different languages
(47:06) Nationalism and AI
(48:31) Tokenization, unicode, and cost structure between languages
(56:54) Accepting, not understanding
(59:24) AI bridging connection
2/1/2024 • 1 hour, 2 minutes, 6 seconds
Ignore Previous Instructions and Listen To This Interview with Sander Schulhoff, CEO of Learnprompting.org
In this episode, Nathan sits down with Sander Schulhoff, Cofounder and CEO of Learnprompting.org. They discuss the business model, the keys to prompting that every user of language models should know, negative prompting, prompt hacking, and more. If you need an ecommerce platform, check out our sponsor Shopify: https://shopify.com/cognitive for a $1/month trial period.
We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.
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LINKS:
- Learnprompting.org: https://learnprompting.org/
- Learnprompting.org Prompt Hacking: https://learnprompting.org/docs/category/-prompt-hacking
- Ignore This Title and Hackaprompt: https://arxiv.org/abs/2311.16119
SPONSORS:
The Brave search API can be used to assemble a data set to train your AI models and help with retrieval augmentation at the time of inference. All while remaining affordable with developer first pricing, integrating the Brave search API into your workflow translates to more ethical data sourcing and more human representative data sets. Try the Brave search API for free for up to 2000 queries per month at https://brave.com/api
Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitive
Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off www.omneky.com
NetSuite has 25 years of providing financial software for all your business needs. More than 36,000 businesses have already upgraded to NetSuite by Oracle, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you're looking for an ERP platform ✅ head to NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/cognitive and download your own customized KPI checklist.
X/SOCIALS:
@labenz (Nathan)
@SanderSchulhoff
@learnprompting
@CogRev_Podcast
TIMESTAMPS:
(04:50) What is Learnprompting.org
(06:30) Learnprompting.org's adoption stats and the transition from open source to a business
(10:21) Are we done with prompt engineering or is there more to be discovered?
The key 2-3 things every user of GPT should know
(19:11) The format trick
(21:32) Role casting / persona prompting
(24:44) Does the level of vocabulary you bring to a LM impact its performance
(26:10) Contrastive chain of thought
(28:30) Language models responding well to negative instructions
(32:29) Benchmarking techniques
(34:00) Answer engineering
(37:29) Debugging a prompt
(41:13) Sander's favourite models today
Best practices for image prompting - maybe cut out
(48:50) Productivity improvement with language models
(51:25) Tips for coding with prompts
(56:06) The current state of prompt engineering and how it'll evolve
(58:30) 2024 will be the year of agents and Sander's favourite agents
(59:57) How will agents impact the future of prompt engineering
(1:04:10) How to start agent engineering
(Adversarial attacks
(1:19:40) Model to model hijacking
(1:25:24) Chinese character attack
(1:28:33) Taxonomy of attacks
1/30/2024 • 1 hour, 44 minutes, 24 seconds
The Pixel Revolution Part 2 with Suhail Doshi, Founder of Playground AI
In this episode, Nathan sits down with Suhail Doshi, founder of Playground AI. They discuss the current state of AI image generation, how Suhail is building Playground while the technology for vision and image generation is still maturing, thought to image reconstruction, and more. If you need an ecommerce platform, check out our sponsor Shopify: https://shopify.com/cognitive for a $1/month trial period.
We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.
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LINKS:
- Playground AI: https://playgroundai.com/
SPONSORS:
The Brave search API can be used to assemble a data set to train your A I models and help with retrieval augmentation at the time of inference. All while remaining affordable with developer first pricing, integrating the Brave search API into your workflow translates to more ethical data sourcing and more human representative data sets. Try the Brave search API for free for up to 2000 queries per month at https://brave.com/api
Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitive
Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off www.omneky.com
NetSuite has 25 years of providing financial software for all your business needs. More than 36,000 businesses have already upgraded to NetSuite by Oracle, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you're looking for an ERP platform ✅ head to NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/cognitive and download your own customized KPI checklist.
X/SOCIALS:
@labenz (Nathan)
@Suhail
@CogRev_Podcast
TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00) Episode Preview
(00:44) The current state of AI image generation
(08:04) Are we currently at a GPT-2 level for image gen?
(15:40) Sponsor - Brave Search API | Shopify
(20:46) Shortcomings and use cases for GPT-4V
(22:46) Benefits of vision vs language
(28:30) Trajectory for what Playground will build next
(33:28) Sponsor - NetSuite by Oracle | Omneky
(34:48) How will the image generation experience change over time
(40:06) Thought to image reconstruction
(47:49) What if OpenAI fully focused on image
(50:09) Lack of training data in vision and the use of synthetic data
(51:30) Multimodal models increasing performance
(55:03) Images are information rich but lack the right annotation
(57:00) Building Playground while vision technology is maturing
(1:03:25) What should the rules for generative AI be?
(1:09:19) Parallel to the music industry and streaming for rev share
(1:12:21) What are the minimum standards that AI application developers should be expected to uphold?
(1:16:48) Wrap
1/26/2024 • 1 hour, 18 minutes, 46 seconds
NYTimes vs OpenAI: Generative AI and the Law with Cecilia Ziniti, Founder and CEO of GC AI
In this episode, Nathan sits down with tech lawyer Cecilia Zeniti, Founder & CEO of GC AI, the AI for in-house counsel. They discuss the origins of IP law in the US Constitution to promote creativity, the "fair use doctrine" and how OpenAI could argue ChatGPT is transformative, Google's patenting strategy around the transformer, and much more. If you need an ecommerce platform, check out our sponsor Shopify: https://shopify.com/cognitive for a $1/month trial period.
We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.
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LINKS:
GC AI: https://getgc.ai/
Cecilia's Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/CeciliaZin
SPONSORS:
Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitive
Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off www.omneky.com
NetSuite has 25 years of providing financial software for all your business needs. More than 36,000 businesses have already upgraded to NetSuite by Oracle, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you're looking for an ERP platform ✅ head to NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/cognitive and download your own customized KPI checklist.
X/SOCIALS:
@labenz (Nathan)
@CeciliaZin (Cecilia)
@CogRev_Podcast
TIMESTAMPS:
(00:04:30) - Introduction to Intellectual Property law
(00:07:30) - Overview of main types of intellectual property - patents, trademarks, copyrights
(00:10:30) - Could Google have patented the transformer? Google’s patent strategy
(00:16:30) - Claim construction and its parallel to LLMs
(00:17:17) - Sponsor: Shopify
(00:18:46) - Practical impact of open source on ability to enforce IP rights
(00:21:47) - Litigation, internal data privacy, and communication
(00:24:30) - Copyright law and fair use doctrine for transformative works
(00:30:22) - Sponsor: Netsuite | Omneky
(00:31:42) - Big tech company lawsuits when money starts shifting between incumbents and newcomers
(00:34:10) - When judges like a technology…
(00:34:57) - Scraping and LinkedIn’s suit
(00:38:50) - NYTimes vs OpenAI
(00:40:00) - Copyright, creators, and music industry licensing
(00:42:35) - Transformative nature of work and “fair use”
(00:50:29) - Limits on getting injunctions and ongoing royalties from courts
(00:56:39) - Legalities of other modalities, like DALL-E images of copyrighted IP
(01:01:00) - OpenAI’s opt-out for licensing on the text modality
(01:03:58) - OpenAI’s weak to strong generalization
(01:07:00) - Pharmaceuticals and software, AI doctors, public good balancing
(01:10:40) - Why licensed professionals aren’t pushing back against AI
(01:15:36) - Duty to use tools for efficiency to a client
(01:17:04) - Impact of open source and ability to find someone to sue
(01:20:30) - Forward-looking thoughts on what IP laws should be for AI
(01:27:38) - Overview of Cecilia's company GC AI for lawyers
1/23/2024 • 1 hour, 30 minutes, 48 seconds
The Quest for Autonomous Web Agents with Div Garg, Cofounder and CEO of MultiOn
In this episode, Nathan sits down with Div Garg, founder of Multion, to discuss the current state and future outlook of AI agents. They discuss benchmarking real-world tasks, the promise and perils of consumer AI adoption, predictions that 2024 may be a breakout year for personal bots, and more. If you need an ecommerce platform, check out our sponsor Shopify: https://shopify.com/cognitive for a $1/month trial period.
We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.
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LINKS:
MultiOn: https://www.multion.ai/
Part 1 with Div Garg: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PR2Mdlx5eik
SPONSORS:
Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitive
Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off www.omneky.com
NetSuite has 25 years of providing financial software for all your business needs. More than 36,000 businesses have already upgraded to NetSuite by Oracle, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you're looking for an ERP platform ✅ head to NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/cognitive and download your own customized KPI checklist.
X/SOCIALS:
@labenz (Nathan)
@divgarg9
@MultiON_AI (MultiOn)
@CogRev_Podcast
TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00) - Episode Preview
(00:06:06) - Current state of AI agents - still early with chat abilities, but logical reasoning lacking
(00:12:32) - Estimated timeline for usable everyday AI agents - focused on adoption and reliability
(00:17:41) - Architectures beyond language models - action transformers and process optimization
(00:22:00) - Context limits of current AI models - efficient context compression is key
(00:25:00 - Managing memory and knowledge retrieval in agents
(00:29:40) - MultiOn's own model creation
(00:30:16) - Sponsors: Netsuite | Omneky
(00:49:00) - Maturing agent capabilities beyond language with planning systems
(00:32:00) - Benchmarking agent capabilities on real-world website tasks
(00:59:30) - Inspiration from computer OS thread scheduling and coordination
(01:02:30) - Expanding agents to mobile for voice commands and authentication
(01:06:47) - AI agents complementing vs substituting human roles
(01:09:00) - Removing repetitive "digital chores" to change job landscapes
(01:11:36) - Sourcing high-quality demonstrator data at scale
(01:13:00) - Privacy protections when collecting user data
1/20/2024 • 1 hour, 43 minutes, 14 seconds
Unlocking Enterprise Data with Knowledge Graphs and AI, with Juan Sequeda, Principal Scientist and Head of AI Lab at data.world
In this episode, Nathan sits down with Juan Sequeda, Principal Scientist and Head of AI Lab at data.world. They discuss how knowledge graphs can be your organization's "brain" for AI, integrating structured and unstructured data, benchmarking enterprise AI systems, and more. If you need an ecommerce platform, check out our sponsor Shopify: https://shopify.com/cognitive for a $1/month trial period.
We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.
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LINKS:
Data.world: https://data.world/
SPONSORS:
Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitive
Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off www.omneky.com
NetSuite has 25 years of providing financial software for all your business needs. More than 36,000 businesses have already upgraded to NetSuite by Oracle, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you're looking for an ERP platform ✅ head to NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/cognitive and download your own customized KPI checklist.
X/SOCIALS:
@labenz (Nathan)
@juansequeda (Juan)
@datadotworld (data.world)
@CogRev_Podcast
TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00:00) - Introduction to Juan Sequeda and data.world
(00:01:11) - Discussion on data and generative ai
(00:06:15) - Data.world's origins as an open data catalog platform ("Github for data")
(00:09:35) - Using knowledge graphs and semantics to integrate and query data
(00:12:52) - Main use cases for data catalogs: search/discovery, governance, data operations
(00:15:00) - The process of building knowledge graphs automatically from data
(00:24:29) - AI for unlocking and capturing tribal business knowledge
(00:34:24) - Understanding the data landscape in enterprises
(00:38:32) - The emergence of knowledge engineers and data product managers
(00:40:44) - The consumer experience in data.world
(00:45:36) - The importance of context in data analysis
(00:46:58) - The role of AI in improving data analysis
(00:48:08) - The importance of accuracy and explainability in data analysis
(00:50:08) - Question cataloging in data analysis
(00:51:44) - The future potential of "chat with your data" interfaces
(01:18:02) - Finetuning with data vs metadata
(01:29:24) - Future of enterprise data teams
1/18/2024 • 1 hour, 53 minutes, 14 seconds
Breaking Boundaries: AI CoScientist to Accelerate Science Research with Gabe Gomes, Professor at CMU
In this episode, Nathan sits down with Gabe Gomes, Assistant Professor at Carnegie Mellon University, and researcher behind Coscientist: the first non-organic, intelligent being to design, plan, and execute a chemistry experiment. They discuss how Coscientist allows scientists to use natural language to control remote experiments on Emerald Cloud Lab, how it will democratize scientific knowledge, and accelerate the pace of research. If you need an ecommerce platform, check out our sponsor Shopify: https://shopify.com/cognitive for a $1/month trial period.
We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.
LINKS:
Autonomous Chemical Research with Large Language Models: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-023-06792-0
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SPONSORS:
Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitive
Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off www.omneky.com
NetSuite has 25 years of providing financial software for all your business needs. More than 36,000 businesses have already upgraded to NetSuite by Oracle, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you're looking for an ERP platform ✅ head to NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/cognitive and download your own customized KPI checklist.
X/SOCIALS:
@labenz (Nathan)
@gabepgomes (Gabe)
@CogRev_Podcast
TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00:00) - Episode Intro
(00:05:00) - Introduction Gabe Gomes, his research
(00:15:02) - Emerald Cloud Labs for remote chemical experimentation
(00:15:18) - Sponsor: Shopify
(00:22:40) - How AI is addressing the pain point of chemistry research
(00:29:12) - Sponsors: Netsuite | Omneky
(00:31:00) - Democratizing science and access to chemistry techniques
(00:38:00) - Modular CoScientist architecture
(00:46:00) - The power of CoScientist to address more than just chemistry
(01:17:00) - The explosion of the context window
(01:30:00) - AI Safety
(01:45:00) - How is Copilot already helping expedite chemistry and scientific research?
1/12/2024 • 1 hour, 51 minutes, 5 seconds
AI-Powered Business Communications with Dan O'Connell, Chief AI & Strategy Officer at Dialpad
In this episode, Nathan sits down with Dan O’Connell, Chief Strategy Officer at Dialpad. They discuss building their own language models using 5 billion minutes of business calls, custom speech recognition models for every customer, and the challenges of bringing AI into business. If you need an ecommerce platform, check out our sponsor Shopify: https://shopify.com/cognitive for a $1/month trial period.
We're sharing a few of Nathan's favorite AI scouting episodes from other shows. Today, Shane Legg, Cofounder at Deepmind and its current Chief AGI Scientist, shares his insights with Dwarkesh Patel on AGI's timeline, the new architectures needed for AGI, and why multimodality will be the next big landmark. If you need an ecommerce platform, check out our sponsor Shopify: https://shopify.com/cognitive for a $1/month trial period.
We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.
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SPONSORS:
Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitive
Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off www.omneky.com
NetSuite has 25 years of providing financial software for all your business needs. More than 36,000 businesses have already upgraded to NetSuite by Oracle, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you're looking for an ERP platform ✅ head to NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/cognitive and download your own customized KPI checklist.
X/SOCIAL:
@labenz (Nathan)
@dialdoc (Dan)
@dialpad
@CogRev_Podcast (Cognitive Revolution)
1/9/2024 • 1 hour, 22 minutes, 51 seconds
2028 AGI, New Architectures, and Aligning Superhuman Models with Shane Legg, Deepmind Founder, on The Dwarkesh Podcast
We're sharing a few of Nathan's favorite AI scouting episodes from other shows. Today, Shane Legg, Cofounder at Deepmind and its current Chief AGI Scientist, shares his insights with Dwarkesh Patel on AGI's timeline, the new architectures needed for AGI, and why multimodality will be the next big landmark. If you need an ecommerce platform, check out our sponsor Shopify: https://shopify.com/cognitive for a $1/month trial period.
You can subscribe to The Dwarkesh Podcast here: https://www.youtube.com/@DwarkeshPatel
We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.
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SPONSORS:
Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitive
Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off www.omneky.com
NetSuite has 25 years of providing financial software for all your business needs. More than 36,000 businesses have already upgraded to NetSuite by Oracle, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you're looking for an ERP platform ✅ head to NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/cognitive and download your own customized KPI checklist.
X/SOCIAL:
@labenz (Nathan)
@dwarkesh_sp (Dwarkesh)
@shanelegg (Shane)
@CogRev_Podcast (Cognitive Revolution)
TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00:00) - Episode Preview with Nathan’s Intro
(00:02:45) - Conversation with Dwarkesh and Shane begins
(00:14:26) - Do we need new architectures?
(00:17:31) - Sponsors: Shopify
(00:19:40) - Is search needed for creativity?
(00:31:46) - Impact of Deepmind on safety vs capabilities
(00:32:48) - Sponsors: Netsuite | Omneky
(00:37:10) - Timelines
(00:45:18) - Multimodality
1/4/2024 • 50 minutes, 17 seconds
Cutting-edge Neurotechnology with Nita Farahany in Conversation with Luisa Rodriguez on The 80,000 Hours podcast
We're sharing a few of Nathan's favorite AI scouting episodes from other shows. Today: Nita Farahani shares her insights with 80,000 Hours' Luisa Rodriguez on the current state of neurotechnology and its potential impacts on various fields, including work, healthcare, privacy, and even human cognition. The discussion includes Farahani's assessment of devices like SmartCap and Neuralink, the concept of cognitive liberty, the risks of the technology, and the need for proper regulation and ethical considerations.
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Nita Farahany is a professor of law and philosophy at Duke Law School and discusses the applications of cutting-edge neurotechnology.
You can subscribe to The 80,000 Hours Podcast here: https://80000hours.org/podcast/
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SPONSORS:
Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitive
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@labenz (Nathan)
@8000hours (The 8000 Hours podcast)
@CogRev_Podcast (Cognitive Revolution)
TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00) Nathan intro's this episode with Nita Farahany
(03:26) The Future of Neurotechnology: From Neuralink to Meta
(05:40) The Potential of Brain-Computer Interfaces in Military Applications
(07:27) The Future of Neurotechnology in Security and Surveillance
(11:29) The Role of Neurotechnology in National Security
(15:20) SPONSORS: SHOPIFY | NETSUITE
(18:14) The Potential of Brain-Computer Interfaces in Communication and Data Transfer
(21:19) The Future of Super Soldiers and Brain-Controlled Drones
(32:20) SPONSORS: OMNEKY
(41:05) The Controversial Realm of Neurotechnology Weapons
(45:16) Ideal International Agreements for Weapon Regulation
(46:53) Potential Risks of Military Applications of Neurotechnology
(47:01) The Threat of Hacking in Neurotechnology
(50:36) Brain Signatures for Identification
(01:11:28) The Future of Neurotechnology in the Workplace
(01:24:59) The Intrusion of Brain Decoding into Personal Relationships
(01:27:36) The Implications of Mind Reading and Brain Transparency
(01:30:00) Regulating Brain Decoding: A Call for a Change in Worldview
(01:32:22) The Potential of Neuralink in Therapeutic Applications
(01:38:03) The Impact of Neurotechnology on Identity and Self-Perception
(01:41:47) The Future of Cognitive Enhancement and Transhumanism
(01:46:21) The Role of Neurotechnology in Addressing Neurological Diseases
(01:51:04) The Dark Side of Neurotechnology: Hacking and Manipulation
(01:54:50) The Importance of Cognitive Liberty in Neurotechnology
(01:55:15) The Future of Neurotechnology: Best and Worst Case Scenarios
1/3/2024 • 2 hours, 5 minutes, 40 seconds
Nathan on the 80,000 Hours Show: AI Scouting, OpenAI's Safety Record, and Redteaming Frontier Models
In today's conversation, Nathan joins Rob Wiblin, host of The 80,000 Hours podcast to discuss why we need more AI scouts, OpenAI's safety record, and redteaming frontier models. If you need an ecommerce platform, check out our sponsor Shopify: https://shopify.com/cognitive for a $1/month trial period.
SPONSORS:
Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitive
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@labenz (Nathan)
@robertwiblin (Robert)
@CogRev_Podcast
LINKS:
80,000 Hours Episode Show Notes: https://80000hours.org/podcast/episodes/nathan-labenz-openai-red-team-safety/
TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00:00) - Episode Preview
(00:05:12) - Rob’s intro
(00:10:50) - Interview begins
(00:15:50) - Intro toThe Cognitive Revolution excerpt
(00:19:13) - Excerpt from The Cognitive Revolution: Nathan’s narrative
(01:22:10) - Why it’s hard to imagine a much better game board
(01:28:14) - What OpenAI has been doing right
(01:40:12) - Arms racing and China
(01:46:10) - OpenAI’s single-minded focus on AGI
(01:56:55) - Transparency about capabilities
(02:05:56) - Benefits of releasing models
(02:17:14) - Was it ok to release GPT-4?
(02:35:31) - Why no statement from the OpenAI board
(02:55:59) - Ezra Klein on the OpenAI story
(03:16:59) - The upside of AI merits taking some risk
(03:31:44) - Meta and open source
(03:42:26) - Nathan’s journey into the AI world
(03:48:18) - Rob’s outro
12/27/2023 • 3 hours, 53 minutes, 11 seconds
AI Deception, Interpretability, and Affordances with Apollo Research CEO Marius Hobbhahn
In this episode, Marius Hobbhahn, CEO of Apollo Research, sits down with Nathan Labenz to discuss Apollo’s research in AI deception, interpretability, and affordances. If you need an ecommerce platform, check out our sponsor Shopify: https://shopify.com/cognitive for a $1/month trial period.
SPONSORS:
Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitive
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Learn from the best to become your best. Learn how to negotiate a raise with Chris Voss or manage your relationships with Esther Perel. Boost your confidence and find practical takeaways you can apply to your life and at work. If you own a business or are a team leader, use MasterClass to empower and create future-ready employees and leaders. Moment of Zen listeners will get two memberships for the price of one at https://masterclass.com/cognitive
Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off.
NetSuite has 25 years of providing financial software for all your business needs. More than 36,000 businesses have already upgraded to NetSuite by Oracle, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you're looking for an ERP platform ✅ head to NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/cognitive and download your own customized KPI checklist.
X/SOCIAL:
@labenz (Nathan)
@MariusHobbhahn (Marius)
@eriktorenberg (Erik)
@CogRev_Podcast
TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00:00) - Episode Preview
(00:05:40) - Understanding the Role of Apollo Research
(00:08:02) - The Evolution of AI Safety
(00:11:30) - Apollo’s Framework
(00:15:10) - Sponsors: Shopify
(00:16:49) - Understanding AI Affordances and Resulting Interactions in the World
(00:31:00) - Sponsors: Omneky
(00:39:00) - Interpretability and deceptive alignment
(00:45:55) - Why might deception arise in the first place?
(00:47:46) - Understanding deceptive alignment
(00:57:49) - New Architectures
(01:02:23) - Interpretability at deployment phase
(01:03:35) - Deception in AI | A Case Study
(01:09:03) - Deceptive AI Stock Trader
(01:18:51) - Impact of discouragement on unethical AI behaviour
(01:19:45) - Giving the AI a Reasoning Scratchpad and Impact on Deception
(01:21:06) - Double-edged sword of removing the scratchpad
(01:23:00) - Analyzing impact of model size on insider training
(01:28:00) - Challenges and necessity of 3rd Party Auditing
(01:31:00) - Role of government in regulation
(01:52:17) - How can individuals get involved in red teaming?
12/15/2023 • 1 hour, 57 minutes, 11 seconds
Balaji Srinivasan on Polytheistic AI, Human-AI Symbiosis, and Prospects for AI Control
Balaji Srinivasan, investor, former CTO at Coinbase and GP at a16z, and writer of The Network State, joins Nathan to discuss polytheistic AI and AI gods, human-AI symbiosis, how AI will be controlled, and much more. If you need an ecommerce platform, check out our sponsor Shopify: https://shopify.com/cognitive for a $1/month trial period.
SPONSORS:
Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitive
Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off.
NetSuite has 25 years of providing financial software for all your business needs. More than 36,000 businesses have already upgraded to NetSuite by Oracle, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you're looking for an ERP platform ✅ head to NetSuite: https://netsuite.com/cognitive and download your own customized KPI checklist.
X/SOCIAL:
@labenz (Nathan)
@balajis (Balaji)
@eriktorenberg (Erik)
@CogRev_Podcast
TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00) - Episode Preview
(00:06:07) - Evolution of AI Systems
(00:09:39) - Challenges of AI Robustness
(00:29:54) - Intersection of AI and Politics
(00:52:14) - Regulation
(00:52:44) - Slippery slope of precedent setting
(00:54:00) - Role of AI in political chaos
(00:54:41) - Emergence of decentralized AI
(01:05:39) - AI's future as amplified intelligence
(01:1300) - Polytheistic model of AI
(01:32:00) - Role of AI in Habitat Degradation
(01:33:32) - AI's ability to do differential diagnosis
(01:34:04) - ABC of economic apocalypse: AI, Bitcoin, China
(01:36:00) - Evolution of AI in chess and medicine
(01:38:22) - Difference between AI existential threat and economic disruption
(01:40:19) - Impact of cryptography on public infrastructure
(02:07:40) - Role of tribalism in AI
12/12/2023 • 2 hours, 16 minutes, 16 seconds
Imbue CTO Josh Albrecht on Creating AI Agents for Reasoning, Reliability, and Robustness
In this episode, Nathan chats with Josh Albrecht, CTO of Imbue. They discuss how to create agents for reasoning, reliability, and robustness. If you need an ecommerce platform, check out our sponsor Shopify: https://shopify.com/cognitive for a $1/month trial period.
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SPONSORS:
Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitive
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Learn from the best to become your best. Learn how to negotiate a raise with Chris Voss or manage your relationships with Esther Perel. Boost your confidence and find practical takeaways you can apply to your life and at work. If you own a business or are a team leader, use MasterClass to empower and create future-ready employees and leaders. Moment of Zen listeners will get two memberships for the price of one at https://masterclass.com/zen
Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off.
X/SOCIAL
@labenz (Nathan)
@eriktorenberg (Erik)
@CogRev_Podcast
TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00:00) – Episode Preview
(00:07:14) – What does it mean to be a research company?
(00:10:25) – How is the reasoning landscape these days and how might it evolve?
(00:11:03) – Data quality is highly important
(00:21:15) – What’s the difference between good features and a good world model?
(00:27:31) – The impact of new modalities on reasoning
(00:29:15) – How much can reasoning and knowledge be separated?
(00:45:13) – Imbue demo and are they building their own LLMs or using others?
(00:49:37) – Does Imbue have a deal with Nvidia?
(00:57:48) – Carbs framework
(01:12:57) – Imbue’s involvement with policy and and AI safety
(01:16:23) – Takeaways from AI Safety Summit and Biden’s Order
12/2/2023 • 1 hour, 21 minutes, 38 seconds
Vercel CEO Guillermo Rauch on AI-Powered Coding, Software 2.0, and the AI Open Source Question
In this episode, Nathan chats with Guillermo Rauch, CEO of Vercel, to discuss how AI might shape the future of code, software 2.0, and the open source question in AI. If you need an ecommerce platform, check out our sponsor Shopify: https://shopify.com/cognitive for a $1/month trial period.
SPONSORS:
Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitive
With the onset of AI, it’s time to upgrade to the next generation of the cloud: Oracle Cloud Infrastructure. OCI is a single platform for your infrastructure, database, application development, and AI needs. Train ML models on the cloud’s highest performing NVIDIA GPU clusters.
Do more and spend less like Uber, 8x8, and Databricks Mosaic, take a FREE test drive of OCI at oracle.com/cognitive
NetSuite has 25 years of providing financial software for all your business needs. More than 36,000 businesses have already upgraded to NetSuite by Oracle, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you're looking for an ERP platform ✅ head to NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/cognitive and download your own customized KPI checklist.
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X/SOCIAL
@labenz (Nathan)
@rauchg (Guillermo)
@CogRev_Podcast
TIMESTAMPS
(00:00:00) - Introductory comments
(00:03:43) - Rauch's background in open source software like Mootools and Next.js
(00:04:27) - Overview of Vercel and the front-end cloud concept
(00:06:15) - Productivity gains from Vercel's front-end infrastructure
(00:14:50) - Sponsors: Shopify | Omneky
(00:21:00) - Rauch getting inspired by GitHub Copilot code auto-completion
(00:24:00) - Launching Vercel's own AI product vZero: production-ready UI code from natural language prompts
(00:29:17) - Sponsors: Oracle | Netsuite
(00:30:00) - Transition to discussing the future of software development
(00:34:12) - vZero surpassing Rauch's own hand-coded website on accessibility
(00:51:00) - Discussion about focusing on the full stack beyond just the AI model
(00:54:00) - Concept of Software 2.0 using data and AI instead of classical code
(00:56:00) - Maintaining software 1.0 while aggressively expanding into 2.0 paradigm
(00:56:12) - Philosophical support for open source and skepticism about risks
(00:57:12) - How open source software tends to quickly improve over time
(00:57:47) - Prediction that AI may "ossify" existing software 1.0 technologies
(01:01:12) - AI enabling more grassroots innovation like Mark Zuckerberg originally did
(01:07:00) - Concerns about regulatory suppression of open source AI progress
(01:03:00) - Unpredictability of new risks that could emerge like impersonation
(01:11:00) - Rejecting AI doom narratives but staying vigilant on capabilities
(01:12:00) - Concluding thoughts on embracing AI progress with appropriate caution
11/29/2023 • 1 hour, 16 minutes, 47 seconds
Sam Altman Fired from OpenAI: NEW Insider Context on the Board’s Decision
Nathan shares his perspective on Sam Altman’s firing from OpenAI, after being a part of the red team for GPT-4 and seeing how the board handled safety concerns. If you need an ecommerce platform, check out our sponsor Shopify: https://shopify.com/cognitive for a $1/month trial period.
This is a developing story. This podcast was recorded on 11/21 at 12pm PST.
SPONSORS:
Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries. From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitive
With the onset of AI, it’s time to upgrade to the next generation of the cloud: Oracle Cloud Infrastructure. OCI is a single platform for your infrastructure, database, application development, and AI needs. Train ML models on the cloud’s highest performing NVIDIA GPU clusters.
Do more and spend less like Uber, 8x8, and Databricks Mosaic, take a FREE test drive of OCI at oracle.com/cognitive
NetSuite has 25 years of providing financial software for all your business needs. More than 36,000 businesses have already upgraded to NetSuite by Oracle, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you're looking for an ERP platform ✅ head to NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/cognitive and download your own customized KPI checklist.
Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off.
X/SOCIAL
@labenz (Nathan)
@eriktorenberg (Erik)
@CogRev_Podcast
TIMESTAMPS:
00:00:00) - Preview
(00:03:00) - Getting early access to test GPT-4
(00:05:38) - Realizing the immense capabilities and lack of safety measures in GPT-4
(00:08:03) - Concerns over OpenAI's slow start on safety after testing GPT-4
(00:15:38) - Sponsors: Shopify | Omneky
(00:17:34) - GPT-4's lack of safety measures and willingness to provide harmful information
(00:18:20) - GPT-4 suggesting assassination to slow AI progress
(00:21:00) - OpenAI unable to provide details on plans to control future models
(00:23:00) - The failure of GPT-4's "safety edition" to properly constrain unsafe behavior
(00:29:00) - Sponsors: Netsuite | Oracle
(00:29:39) - Discussing concerns over GPT-4 capabilities with AI experts and leaders
(00:33:00) - An OpenAI board member not having tried GPT-4 despite its importance
(00:35:00) - Urging the board member to investigate the divergence between capabilities and controls
(00:36:00) - Getting removed from the GPT-4 testing program by OpenAI
(00:44:00) - OpenAI subsequently showing more seriousness on safety after the GPT-4 experience
(00:54:00) - An example safety issue in GPT-4 that still persists
(01:00:00) - Speculation on what may have triggered the OpenAI board's removal of Sam Altman as CEO
(01:06:00) - Altman's "quaint" remark and acknowledgement of GPT-5 training
(01:21:57) - The absence of explanation from the board
(01:23:56) - How Microsoft will emerge
(01:28:00) - Questioning if pursuing AGI should be the singular goal
(01:32:36) - Should OpenAI be open source?
(01:42:00) - Innane regulation of AI
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11/22/2023 • 1 hour, 54 minutes, 18 seconds
AI Discourse Deranged: Assessing LLM Generalization Takes and Polarizing Regulatory Debate
In this episode, Nathan and Erik discuss research out of Google Deepmind suggesting LLMs, Hemant Teneja’s responsible VC commitments, and why now is not the time for an ideological war on AI regulation. If you need an ecommerce platform, check out our sponsor Shopify: https://shopify.com/cognitive for a $1/month trial period.
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SPONSORS:
Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitive
With the onset of AI, it’s time to upgrade to the next generation of the cloud: Oracle Cloud Infrastructure. OCI is a single platform for your infrastructure, database, application development, and AI needs. Train ML models on the cloud’s highest performing NVIDIA GPU clusters.
Do more and spend less like Uber, 8x8, and Databricks Mosaic, take a FREE test drive of OCI at oracle.com/cognitive
NetSuite has 25 years of providing financial software for all your business needs. More than 36,000 businesses have already upgraded to NetSuite by Oracle, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you're looking for an ERP platform ✅ head to NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/cognitive and download your own customized KPI checklist.
Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off.
X/SOCIAL
@labenz (Nathan)
@eriktorenberg (Erik)
@CogRev_Podcast
TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00:00) - Opening discussion of recent viral tweet claiming LLMs can't generalize
(00:03:27) - Waymo Safety Research
(00:07:09) - Use of GPT-4V for medicine
(00:10:12) - Response to Google Deepmind’s research claiming LLMs can’t generalize
(00:15:08) - Sponsors: Shopify | Omneky
(00:21:38) - Reproduction of the DeepMind research showing noise allows generalization
(00:26:02) - Helen of Transforrmers
(00:30:15) - Sponsors: Oracle | Netsuite
(00:32:36) - Continuation of Google Deepmind discussion
(00:36:49) - Google Med-PaLM LLM resulting in novel insights
(00:42:47) - “The AI Executive Order will only continue to look more foolish from here”
(00:44:09) - The AI Scout mindset
(00:45:22) - Few humans can extrapolate beyond their training data
(00:48:45) - When does GPT-4 deceive its user?
(00:49:58) - Voluntary Responsible AI Commitments from VCs
(00:54:00) - Analysis of the commitments as basic common sense practices
(00:56:30) - No need for an ideological war
(00:57:00) - Discussion of critical reactions framing the commitments as capitulation
(01:00:00) - Concerns about the voluntary commitments enabling harmful regulation
(01:03:00) - Rebuttal that self-regulation can avoid heavy handed regulation
(01:08:00) - Self driving cars: the invisible lives you can save
(01:11:00) - Mysticism when it comes to AI
(01:12:03) - Suggestion that product liability law could address concerns
(01:15:00) - Challenge to defend rejecting product liability for AI systems
11/17/2023 • 1 hour, 20 minutes, 32 seconds
Biden's Executive Order and AI Safety with Flo Crivello, Founder of Lindy AI
In this episode, Flo Crivello, founder of Lindy AI, joins Nathan to chat about Biden’s executive order, and the state of AI safety. They discuss Flo’s thoughts on the executive order, building AGI kill switches, self driving cars, and more. If you need an ERP platform, check out our sponsor NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/cognitive.
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LINKS:
NVIDIA’s Eureka: https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2023/10/20/eureka-robotics-research/
X/SOCIAL:@labenz (Nathan)
@Altimor (Flo)
@CogRev_Podcast
TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00) Episode Preview
(00:06:42) The natural order of technological progress
(00:07:00) Self driving cars
(00:10:57) Where is Flo accelerationist?
(00:12:34) Artificial intelligence as a new form of life
(00:17:08) - Sponsors: Oracle | Omneky
(00:18:05) Silicon-based intelligence vs carbon-based intelligence
(00:24:36) Executive Order
(00:29:32) How would a GPU kill switch work?
(00:31:24) “Let’s not regulate model development, but applications”
(00:32:08) - Sponsor: Netsuite
(00:36:00) GPT-4 is the most critical component for AGI
(00:38:00) AGI in 2-8 years
(00:39:26) Eureka moment from a general system
(00:48:00) AI research with China
(00:52:00) Does AI have subjective experience? The Mu response
The Cognitive Revolution is brought to you by the Turpentine Media network.
Producer: Vivian Meng
Executive Producers: Amelia Salyers, and Erik Torenberg
Editor: Graham Bessellieu
For inquiries about guests or sponsoring the podcast, please email vivian@turpentine.co
11/3/2023 • 55 minutes, 7 seconds
Hardcore AI for History with Mark Humphries, Professor of History at Wilfred Laurier University
Mark Humphries is a Professor of History at Wilfrid Laurier University, where he has published widely on various aspects of Canadian history. We invited Mark to do an episode after he reached out to tell us that hearing about how Nathan fine-tuned GPT-3.5 on GPT-4 reasoning helped him get over some hurdles in his own archival research. In addition, he chats about all the things that he'd tried that hadn't worked, and in the process proved himself to be one of the world's leading adopters of AI technology in the field of history.
If you need an ERP platform, check out our sponsor NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/cognitive.
SPONSORS: NetSuite | Omneky
NetSuite has 25 years of providing financial software for all your business needs. More than 36,000 businesses have already upgraded to NetSuite by Oracle, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you're looking for an ERP platform ✅ head to NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/cognitive and download your own customized KPI checklist.
Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off.
LINKS:
Mark’s Substack, Generative History: https://generativehistory.substack.com/
X/SOCIAL:
@labenz
@CogRev_Podcast
TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00:00) - Episode Preview
(00:03:00) - The state of AI in history before recent advances like GPT-3
(00:06:00) - Mark's background and how he first got interested in AI
(00:09:00) - Using AI to process and search through vast amounts of archival material
(00:12:00) - The challenges of digitizing and searching handwritten historical documents
(00:15:00) - The massive scale of undiscovered archival material that could be processed by AI
(00:18:00) - How AI can help historians process more archival material than ever before
(00:20:11) - Sponsors: Netsuite | Omneky
(00:21:00) - Limitations on using commercial APIs for private archival documents
(00:24:00) - The cost of processing archival documents compared to hiring human transcribers
(00:27:00) - Comparing GPT's ability to transcribe historical handwriting vs more recent scripts
(00:33:00) - Tracing individuals through complex fur trade records using AI
(00:36:00) - Mark's approach to fine-tuning models for specific historical tasks
(00:39:00) - Challenges teaching AI models the nuances of historical writing
(00:42:00) - Privacy issues limiting the use of commercial APIs on restricted archival material
(00:45:00) - The gap between people's expectations of AI and what it can really do right now
(00:51:00) - Adapting assignments and student expectations to AI's current capabilities
(00:52:28) - Using chain of thought prompting to teach models precise historical tasks
(00:52:46) - Getting high accuracy on keyword tagging of archival documents using fine-tuning
(00:57:00) - Mark has crossed the threshold from promise to accelerating archival research
(01:00:00) - How to frame classification tasks to get the most value from AI models
(01:03:00) - Teaching AI models to pronounce tricky historical names and terms
(01:06:19) - Mark's experience using AI in the classroom over two semesters
(01:09:00) - Assignments that are better suited to the current strengths and weaknesses of AI
(01:11:45) - AI progress in education is lagging due to lack of institutional adoption
(01:12:00) - The trajectory of AI capabilities and the need for humans to exceed the model baseline
(01:27:49) - Lessons from history on economic transitions and the social contract
The Cognitive Revolution is brought to you by the Turpentine Media network.
Producer: Vivian Meng
Executive Producers: Amelia Salyers, and Erik Torenberg
Editor: Graham Bessellieu
For inquiries about guests or sponsoring the podcast, please email vivian@turpentine.co
10/31/2023 • 1 hour, 34 minutes, 18 seconds
AI Agents, VC Insights on AI, and Building in Public with Yohei Nakajima, Creator of BabyAGI
In this episode, Yohei Nakajima, creator of BabyAGI and GP at Untapped Capital, chats with Nathan about the opportunity for AI to strengthen human understanding, AI agents, and his insights on investing in AI projects. If you need an ERP platform, check out our sponsor NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/cognitive.
SPONSORS: NetSuite | Omneky
NetSuite has 25 years of providing financial software for all your business needs. More than 36,000 businesses have already upgraded to NetSuite by Oracle, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you're looking for an ERP platform ✅ head to NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/cognitive and download your own customized KPI checklist.
Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off.
LINKS:
BabyAGI: https://github.com/yoheinakajima/babyagi
Yohei's site: https://yoheinakajima.com/
X/SOCIAL
@labenz (Nathan)
@yoheinakajima (Yohei)
@CogRev_Podcast
TIMESTAMPS:
(00:10:59) - A large part of AI is trying to map human cognitive processes onto our software stack
(00:11:14) - Yohei’s TED AI talk: the opportunity for AI to strengthen human understanding
(00:13:29) - Yohei's journey to build AI projects and building in public
(00:14:04) - Yohei's lifelong interest in building tools and automating workflows for efficiency
(00:16:29) - Sponsors: Netsuite | Omneky
(00:22:05) - Building projects as a fun and exploratory practice
(00:23:53) - Single use software
(00:24:18) - Yohei’s home assessment price contesting project
(00:24:58) - The origins of BabyAGI as an autonomous startup founder prototype
(00:27:44) - Create as many paper clips as possible
(00:30:10) - Thoughts on going all in on a project and turning it into a company vs pursuing it on the side
(00:33:00) - Forking different versions of Baby AGI based on animal names
(00:34:24) - Yohei’s learnings about agents after iterating on six versions of Baby AGI
(00:36:24) - Yohei’s thoughts on generalist agents
(00:37:28) - Replit
(00:40:54) - Begin exploring AI automation with tasks you wish you had time for, not critical workflows
(00:42:32) - Automating outbound sales and recruiting workflows with AI
(00:46:19) - Where should people start learning about AI agents?
(00:48:23) - Will agents come online with GPT-4V?
(00:52:40) - The unique moment where both executives and engineers both want to implement AI
(00:54:59) - AI layers: hardware, software, tooling
(00:57:20) - Taxonomy of AI business models
(01:10:47) - Designing AI to provide value for senior citizens
(01:15:14) - The responsibility to nudge people positively with influential AI assistants
(01:19:24) - Advice on when and how startups should build in public
(01:22:24) - Perspective on existential risk from AI vs. its potential benefits
(01:15:30) - Responsibility to handle AI-human emotional connections well
(01:19:24) - Advice on when and how startups should build in public
(01:22:24) - Perspective on existential risk from AI vs. its potential benefits
The Cognitive Revolution is brought to you by the Turpentine Media network.
Producer: Vivian Meng
Executive Producers: Amelia Salyers, and Erik Torenberg
Editor: Graham Bessellieu
For inquiries about guests or sponsoring the podcast, please email vivian@turpentine.co
10/26/2023 • 1 hour, 27 minutes, 19 seconds
RAG & Beyond: Semantic Storage and Retrieval
Anton Troynikov, cofounder of Chroma, joins Nathan Labenz to discuss the importance of keeping the retrieval-augmented generation (RAG) loop in house, what it means for Chroma to be in “wartime” mode right now, and how much of the data going into Chroma has never been in a database before. If you need an ERP platform, check out our sponsor NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/cognitive.
SPONSORS: NetSuite | Omneky
NetSuite has 25 years of providing financial software for all your business needs. More than 36,000 businesses have already upgraded to NetSuite by Oracle, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you're looking for an ERP platform ✅ head to NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/cognitive and download your own customized KPI checklist.
Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off.
LINKS:
Part 1 with Anton: https://youtu.be/ogy37CdIljg
X/SOCIAL:
@labenz (Nathan)
@atroyn (Anton)
@eriktorenberg (Erik)
@CogRev_Podcast
TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00:00) - Introduction by Nathan, setting up the conversation with Anton
(00:02:16) - Anton articulates Chroma's mission to build a horizontally scalable system
(00:03:06) - Rise in popularity of retrieval-augmented generation (RAG)
(00:05:00) - Anton explains what it means for Chroma to be in "wartime" mode right now
(00:06:03) - Chroma's focus on delivering a horizontally scalable cloud service for vector search and storage
(00:08:07) - Nathan describes his experience building a RAG application for a client profiling use case
(00:10:27) - Anton advises measuring retrieval quality and maximizing relevant information returned
(00:15:05) - Sponsors: Netsuite | Omneky
(00:17:02) - Popular use of open source vs. proprietary embedding models like Anthropic's Ada
(00:19:30) - The importance of keeping the RAG loop in house and not relying solely on external APIs
(00:23:31) - Approaches for adapting the embedding space based on user feedback
(00:27:41) - The huge amount of unstructured data that can now be processed by AI
(00:30:40) - Providing a unified interface to structured and unstructured data
(00:31:21) - Chroma's plans to bring more intelligence into the data layer
(00:32:13) - Analogies to Salesforce and Oracle in enterprise software partnerships
(00:33:15) - Much of the data going into Chroma has never been in a database before
(00:38:47) - Categories of organizations adapting to AI: legacy, AI-native, and AI-first
(00:40:55) - Where Chroma is seeing most of its growth right now
(00:42:48) - Retrieval as an important component for developing good agents
(00:46:20) - Interpretability work like Anthropic's circuit evaluation
(00:52:23) - Anton believes new tooling can make latent spaces accessible without AI expertise
(01:03:32) - Thinking of data as a control loop rather than static
(01:06:08) - Scaling constraints between search indexes vs. application databases
(01:09:10) - Potential for time as a dimension in embedding spaces
(01:10:55) - Language models discovering implicit representations of time and space
(01:13:46) - Likelihood of missing results due to representational issues vs. approximate nearest neighbor
(01:15:22) - Automatically handling small data sets without needing elaborate indexing
(01:16:11) - Partnerships with AI labs to mutually reinforce RAG applications
(01:17:20) - Anton's perspective on whether OpenAI will build its own database
(01:19:43) - Partnering with OpenAI and other labs to increase use of their models
(01:21:19) - Anton's experiments probing GPT's reasoning abilities with Game of Life
(01:25:41) - Closing thoughts on the conversation
10/24/2023 • 1 hour, 28 minutes, 9 seconds
The AI Research Roundup Part 2 with Trey Kollmer | The Future of the Transformer
Trey Kollmer returns to discuss the latest AI research revelations with Nathan Labenz. They explore how new techniques will shave 10% off global compute needs, how analogical prompting beats few-shot prompting, and how compressive historical records can increase LLM memory and retention abilities. If you need an ERP platform, check out our sponsor NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/cognitive.
SPONSORS: NetSuite | Omneky
NetSuite has 25 years of providing financial software for all your business needs. More than 36,000 businesses have already upgraded to NetSuite by Oracle, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you're looking for an ERP platform ✅ head to NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/cognitive and download your own customized KPI checklist.
Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off.
LINKS:
🎬 The show outline: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1oiSu9X4EVNMf90aRnk4mrfogSmq3QUsRg4GtI95mMCw/edit
Think Before You Speak: https://browse.arxiv.org/pdf/2310.02226.pdf
SequenceMatch: Imitation Learning for Autoregressive Sequence Modelling with Backtracking: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2306.05426.pdf
StreamingLLMs: https://arxiv.org/abs/2309.17453
Large Language Models as Analogical Reasoners: https://arxiv.org/abs/2310.01714
Ring Attention: https://arxiv.org/abs/2310.01889
TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00:00) - Episode Preview
(00:01:11) - Paper: Think Before You Speak
(00:03:13) - Multimodal models for combining vision and language
(00:04:19) - Backspace Paper
(00:06:25) - Chain of thought prompting for step-by-step reasoning
(00:09:14) - Backspacing in language models to correct mistakes
(00:12:05) - Attention sinks for expanding context length
(0012:41) - Paper: Large Language Models as Analogical Reasoners
(00:15:24) - Pause tokens for language models to "think"
(00:18:23) - Analogical prompting to recall relevant examples
(00:20:52) - Long context windows for language models
(00:23:20) - Markdown works best for OpenAI
(00:24:23) - Ring attention to break memory constraints
(00:26:15) - Paper: StreamingLLMs
(00:27:46) - Potential for superhuman performance with longer contexts
(00:31:01) - Dynamic context window adjustment at runtime
(00:33:53) - Retention and memory capabilities for transformers
(00:37:12) - Planning algorithms combined with memory and scale
(00:39:49) - Paper: Ring Attention
(00:42:35) - Executive assistant prompting and critique
(00:45:23) - Self-RAG for language models to find own examples
(00:48:02) - Timelines and predictions for future capabilities
(00:50:37) - Applications like analyzing long texts and scripts
(00:53:15) - Local versus global attention in transformers
(00:55:59) - Architectural changes versus just training adjustments
(00:58:41) - Pre-training strategies like random start points
10/20/2023 • 1 hour, 4 minutes, 48 seconds
AI is Supercharging Writers with Sudowrite's Founder, James Yu
In this episode, Nathan is joined by James Yu, Founder of Sudowrite, an AI writing tool.They discuss how James started Sudowrite after using GPT-3 for his own fiction writing, how Sudowrite is able to be a supportive writing partner, and Yu's experience developing its tech stack and working through the backlash he's received. f you're looking for an ERP platform, check out our sponsor, NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/cognitive
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SPONSORS: NetSuite | Omneky
NetSuite has 25 years of providing financial software for all your business needs. More than 36,000 businesses have already upgraded to NetSuite by Oracle, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you're looking for an ERP platform ✅ head to NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/cognitive and download your own customized KPI checklist.
Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off.
LINKS:
Sudowrite: https://www.sudowrite.com/
X:
@jamesjyu (James)
@labenz (Nathan)
@eriktorenberg
@CogRev_Podcast
TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00:00) - Episode Preview
(00:04:28)– How James started using GPT-3 for fiction writing in early beta
(00:06:24) – Working within the constraints of the small context window in early GPT models
(00:08:47) - Using few-shot learning to get good results from early GPT-3
(00:10:25) – Focusing messaging on being a supportive AI writing partner
(00:12:08) – Helping fiction writers feel less lonely through pseudo-conversations with AI
(00:16:01) - Sponsors: Netsuite | Omneky
(00:17:22) - Evolving from paragraph-level assistance to full story understanding
(00:20:19) - Building the product for centaurs: half Human, half AI
(00:21:50) - Trying to create an "IDE" for fiction writing to reduce repetitive work
(00:32:15) - Using multiple models together to "kitbash" the best outputs
(00:39:21) - Iterating on prompts over time to get a customized "garden"
(00:45:18) - Keeping temperature high for creative writing, but avoiding cliches
(00:54:21) - Separate paths for professional writers vs casual creators
(00:55:06) - The future of mass-customized and personalized media
(00:57:30) – The continued role of human-centric art and culture
(01:00:10) - The potential for automation to replace repetitive jobs
(01:07:48) - Yu’s experience launching an AI writing tool and the backlash he received
(01:16:24). - Advice for future AI product launches to avoid or minimize backlash
(01:17:17) - Sudowrite's funding and team
(01:18:25) - Focusing on delivering value to customers during controversy
(01:22:00) - Monetization challenges for AI startups and the role of churn
(01:28:44) - The idea of an "AI bundle" to reduce churn and customer acquisition costs
(01:42:06) - Recommendations for underrated AI apps - Claude, Pika, Midjourney
The Cognitive Revolution is brought to you by the Turpentine Media network.
Producer: Vivian Meng
Executive Producers: Amelia Salyers, and Erik Torenberg
Editor: Graham Bessellieu
For inquiries about guests or sponsoring the podcast, please email vivian@turpentine.co
10/10/2023 • 1 hour, 45 minutes, 35 seconds
Gunning for Google with Perplexity CEO Aravind Srinivas
In this episode, Aravind Srinivas of Perplexity AI returns to the show. They discuss Perplexity’s growth to millions of queries per day, CEO Aravind’s favourite Perplexity use cases, and how Perplexity ships fast in a competitive landscape against Google and major AI live players creating their own search engines. If you're looking for an ERP platform, check out our sponsor, NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/cognitive
SPONSORS: NetSuite | Omneky
NetSuite has 25 years of providing financial software for all your business needs. More than 36,000 businesses have already upgraded to NetSuite by Oracle, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you're looking for an ERP platform ✅ head to NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/cognitive and download your own customized KPI checklist.
Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off.
X:
@labenz (Nathan)
@AravSrinivas (Aravind)
@eriktorenberg (Erik)
@cogrev_podcast
LINKS:
- Perplexity AI: https://www.perplexity.ai/
- Part 1 with Aravind: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSYQZZu4MEM
TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00:00) - Episode Preview
(00:01:12) - Introducing Aravind Srinivas and Perplexity AI
(00:05:05) - Perplexity's growth to millions of queries per day
(00:06:21) - Perplexity's retention and market share vs. ChatGPT
(00:08:32) - Improving reliability, speed, accuracy, and new features
(00:10:33) - Getting to daily usage from weekly usage
(00:13:21) - Aravind's favorite Perplexity use cases
(00:18:34) - Issues with lack of sufficient web coverage for hard queries
(00:18:38) - Sponsors: Netsuite | Omneky
(00:23:13) - Building their own search index and models for self-sufficiency
(00:26:29) - Using their own index vs real-time web queries
(00:28:43) - Integrating default search and Copilot companion experiences
(00:31:49) - Training their own models as the only viable long-term option
(00:36:56) - The web becoming more like an API accessed via AI assistants
(00:41:23) - Not trying to copy Google's business model
(00:44:36) - Spending more on compute than people to get scale efficiencies
(00:49:35) - Replacing all parts of the stack with their own proprietary versions
(00:53:59) - Shipping fast out of necessity in a competitive war zone
(00:58:00) - AI assistants becoming a significant part of human digital activity
The Cognitive Revolution is brought to you by the Turpentine Media network.
Producer: Vivian Meng
Executive Producers: Amelia Salyers, and Erik Torenberg
Editor: Graham Bessellieu
For inquiries about guests or sponsoring the podcast, please email vivian@turpentine.co
10/3/2023 • 1 hour, 33 seconds
E54: The Presentation Revolution with Jon Noronha, Co-Founder of Gamma
In this episode, Nathan sits down with Jon Noronha, co-founder of Gamma. Gamma is a new medium for presenting ideas, allowing you to focus on your ideas and receive beautiful, engaging content without the formatting work. In this episode, Jon and Nathan discuss the journey of building Gamma, how to coax AI to do things well, and the opportunity for AI A/B testing. If you're looking for an ERP platform, check out our sponsor, NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/cognitive
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TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00:00) - Preview
(00:01:23) - Nathan introduces Jon Noronha
(00:06:36) - Intro - Jon Noronha introduces himself and Gamma
(00:09:36) - Gamma's origin story: building the "anti-PowerPoint" pre-GPT-3
(00:13:15) - From using AI for onboarding to generating near-complete presentations.
(00:15:11) - Sponsors: Netsuite | Omneky
(00:18:01) - If Notion and Canva had a baby
(00:23:35) - Searching for the right structure for AI, landing on HTML
(00:28:16) - Degrees of freedom - developing a constrained vocabulary of semantic blocks
(00:29:30) - Choice of model(s) – weighing cost, speed, and quality tradeoffs
(00:35:18) - Editing UI - getting AI to edit slides per user command
(00:38:04) - UI for gathering training data - following Midjourney's example
(00:40:00) AI A/B Testing: a big opportunity space
(00:43:22) - Image generation models - Baseten and Gamma's deployment of it
(00:45:37) - Pacing feature development - Trying to stay ahead of innovations like 3D, video, voice etc.
(00:47:45) Image generation for slidedecks and AI involvement
(00:50:29) Gamma's main building priorities and AI generated websites
(00:52:34) - Competing with giants like Microsoft and Google
(00:55:04) - Enterprise AI shipping challenges - Startups pioneer new patterns; giants will eventually follow.
(00:57:45) - Simplifying complexity - will models smooth over the complexity of bloated product suites?
(00:59:22) - Conclusion and final thoughts
X/TWITTER:
@thatsjonsense (Jon)
@labenz (Nathan)
@eriktorenberg
@CogRev_Podcast
LINKS:
Gamma: https://gamma.app/
SPONSORS: NetSuite | Omneky
NetSuite has 25 years of providing financial software for all your business needs. More than 36,000 businesses have already upgraded to NetSuite by Oracle, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you're looking for an ERP platform ✅ head to NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/cognitive and download your own customized KPI checklist.
Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off.
8/17/2023 • 1 hour, 1 minute, 40 seconds
E40: Meta's MEGABYTE Revolution with Lili Yu of Meta AI
Nathan Labenz sits down with Lili Yu, a researcher of Meta AI to discuss the paper she authored: MEGABYTE: Predicting Million-byte Sequences with Multiscale Transformers. In this conversation, they discuss the architecture and breakthroughs of their research, and the opportunity to eliminate the need for tokenization.
The Cognitive Revolution is a part of the Turpentine podcast network. Learn more: www.turpentine.co
LINK:
MEGABYTE Paper: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2305.07185.pdf
TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00) Episode preview
(07:41) Takeaways from Lili Yu's paper: MEGABYTE: Predicting Million-byte Sequences with Multiscale Transformers
(17:00) Architecture
(24:59) Embeddings
(27:43) Different local models
(34:23) Encoder model
(36:35) Transformer Architecture
(48:10) Choosing patch size
(01:08) What happens when you scale up?
(01:19:20) Big picture for Meta AI
(01:22:57) Responsible AI
(01:27:02) China and AI
TWITTER:
@labenz (Nathan)
@liliyu_lili (Lili)
@eriktorenberg (Erik)
@cogrev_podcast
SPONSOR:
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6/29/2023 • 1 hour, 33 minutes, 32 seconds
E9: The AI Assistant Revolution with Flo Crivello of Lindy.AI
People have long been imagining AI assistants. Flo Crivello (founder of Teamflow) is turning that dream into a reality with the ambitious project Lindy. Flo sits down with Nathan on Lindy's announcement day to talk about this unique moment in AI, Lindy's capabilities, single-use apps, and how he sees the global impact that AI-powered employees can have on the future of work.
Anyone who mentions "The Cognitive Revolution" when signing up for the Lindy beta will get priority access.
(0:00) Preview
(1:05) Sponsor: Omneky
(4:50) Flo demos Lindy
(9:21) Security and user experience
(11:55) How this AI moment compares to the Industrial Revolution and single use apps
(15:00) The dream AI assistant (19:54) Competition and advantages of startups
(24:28) Cost vs Quality
(31:19) How Lindy uses user data
(32:37) Context and data injection
(28:11) Comfort with ambiguity
(43:10) Use of guardrails and trust concerns
(47:26) AI safety and edge cases
(49:16) Impact on labor markets
(50:27) Economic resilience
(52:09) Future of work
(55:49) Rapid fire questions
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Websites:
lindy.ai *mention "The Cognitive Revolution" when you sign up for the waitlist to get priority access*
thecognitiverevolution.ai
Twitter:
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@labenz (Nathan)
@Altimor (Flo)
3/22/2023 • 1 hour, 5 minutes, 1 second
E8: GPT4 - AI Unleashed on ChinaTalk Podcast
How will GPT4 change the world? How will US-China 'racing dynamics' play out and what are the implications for AI safety? Nathan Labenz was invited to record a special "emergency" episode of ChinaTalk podcast this week to discuss the implications GPT4 will have for policy, economics, and society. Thanks to Jordan Schneider of ChinaTalk, and fellow "AI justice league" guests Zvi Mowshowitz of 'Don't Worry About the Vase' and Matthew Mittelsteadt of Mercatus.
(0:00) Intro
(2:09) GPT-4 emergency podcast
(9:26) GPT-4 use cases
(22:51) What GPT-4 can and can’t do
(35:50) AI safety
(45:38) OpenAI v. Anthropic
(48:54) Governments’ role in AI
(55:50) AI will improve physical health and healthcare the most
(59:19) Facebook’s LLaMA model
(01:05:55) VR/AR
(01:08:59) Concerns with GPT4
(01:15:26) GPT-5 and GPT-6
(01:18:45) Optimism in the AI revolution
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3/17/2023 • 1 hour, 25 minutes, 7 seconds
E7: In Search of Truth with Aravind Srinivas of Perplexity AI
We talked to Aravind Srinivas about competing with the tech giants, Perplexity's product philosophy and obsession with maximizing value delivered to the user per unit time, and the features that makes Perplexity unique.
(0:00) Preview
(1:31) Introduction & Context
(08:06) Aravind’s vision for Perplexity as the world’s most truth-centric company
(9:29) Raising the average IQ of the world
(12:00) Aravind’s favorite tech entrepreneur
(15:12) “Anthropics” - Building your own model vs user experience
(33:00) Why is perplexity free
(43:00) Talking shop: Perplexity’s tech stack and speed
(1:06:00) Perplexity’s stance on guardrails on search
(1:19:48) Forecasting weakly general AGI: The four criteria
(1:28:00) Aravind’s perspective on OpenAI and the future of AGI
(1:39:00) The Cognitive Revolution’s rapid fire questions: Neuralink implant? Most used AI tools? AI hopes and fears?
Twitter handles:
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@AravSrinivas (Aravind)
@labenz (Nathan)
@eriktorenberg (Erik)
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References & Shownotes:
Flamingo: https://www.deepmind.com/blog/tackling-multiple-tasks-with-a-single-visual-language-model
Decision Transformer Paper: https://arxiv.org/abs/2106.01345
Aravind on TalkRL Podcast: https://www.talkrl.com/episodes/aravind-srinivas-2
Weakly General AGI Criteria: https://www.metaculus.com/questions/3479/date-weakly-general-ai-is-publicly-known/
3/14/2023 • 1 hour, 45 minutes, 34 seconds
E6: The Computer Vision Revolution with Junnan Li and Dongxu Li of BLIP and BLIP2
As recently as January 2021, the challenge of "interpreting what is going on in a photograph" was considered "nowhere near solved." Today's guests Junnan Li and Dongxu Li changed that with their publication and open-sourcing of BLIP, which delivered state-of-the-art performance on image captioning and other vision-language tasks.
BLIP became the #18 most-cited AI paper of 2022, and now Junnan and Dongxu are back with BLIP-2, this time showing how small models can harness the power of existing foundation models to do multi-modal tasks.
We talked to Junnan and Dongxu about their research and how they see the trend toward connector models shaping the future.
Timestamps:
(00:00) Preview
(01:17) Sponsor
(01:35) Intro
(05:50) Convergence of AI techniques
(07:33) Evolution of BLIP to BLIP-2
(08:12) How BLIP-2 unlocked multimodal functionality
(12:43) The size, training dynamics, and optimization function of BLIP
(20:15) Practical/Business applications of BLIP
(29:43) Efficiency of BLIP-2 compared to other models
(41:52) Two-stage pre-training
(47:11) Architecture of Blip-2’s connector model
(58:52) Language models as the executive function of the brain
(01:07:32) Vision for an ultimate multimodal system and democratized pre-training for models
(01:12:59) Useful AI tools in these researchers’ day-to-day
(01:14:56) Upcoming projects
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@DongxuLi_(Dongxu Li)
@labenz (Nathan)
@eriktorenberg (Erik)
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Websites:
Episode transcript at Cognitivervolution.ai
huggingface.co/spaces/Salesforce/BLIP
huggingface.co/spaces/Salesforce/BLIP2
Show Notes:
- Original BLIP demo
- BLIP 2 demo
- BLIP is the #18 most highly-cited paper in AI
- Image captioning comparison tool
- Understanding images with AI - for use in language models and image generation
- Image Aesthetics - Product & Model Reviews
3/9/2023 • 1 hour, 22 minutes, 35 seconds
E5: The Embedding Revolution: Anton Troynikov on Chroma, Stable Attribution, and future of AI
(0:00) Preview
(1:17) Sponsor
(4:00) Anton breaks down the advantages of vector databases
(4:45) How embeddings have created an AI-native way to represent data
(11:50) Anton identifies the watershed moment and step changes in AI
(12:55) Open AI’s pricing
(18:50) How chroma works
(33:04) Stable Attribution and systematic bias
(36:48) How latent diffusion models work
(51:26) How AI is like the early days of aviation
(56:01) How Disney inspired the release of Stable Attribution
(59:53):Why noise can lead to generalization
(1:01:04) Nathan’s KPI for The Cognitive Revolution
(1:01:59) Other use cases for embedding
(1:03: 19) Anton touches on the applications for biotech
(1:04:35) Anton on doomerism hysteria and what actually worries him
(1:11:43) - Nathan sums up a plausible doomer scenario
(1:20:17)What AI tools does Anton use and why?
(1:22:55) Anton’s hopes
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@labenz (Nathan)
@eriktorenberg (Erik)
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Show Notes & references:
-https://same.energy/ (Beta)
-Wright Brothers Bio (https://www.amazon.com/Wright-Brothers-David-McCullough/dp/1476728755)
-Ajeya Cotra article in Less Wrong (https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/pRkFkzwKZ2zfa3R6H/without-specific-countermeasures-the-easiest-path-to)
3/2/2023 • 1 hour, 28 minutes, 34 seconds
E4: The AI Moment with Amjad Masad, Flo Crivello, Dan Romero, and Antonio Garcia Martinez
(0:00) Preview of the debate
(2:23) Sponsor
(3:10) Flo’s take on the AI moment and AGI
(5:45) Amjad’s take on the AI moment
(8:03) Antonio's skepticism about transhumanism
(9:10) Human tendencies color the debate about agency
(11:25) The inflection point is a jump in generality
(13:14) AI's effect on coding
(16:57) Weakness in current models
(19:18) Bounties and the future of work
(21:48) Antonio's skepticism around bounties
(25:00) Who will capture value, incumbents or startups?
(27:26) "All knowledge work will be automated in 20 years"
(30:10) Who will be the biggest beneficiaries of this shift?
(31:50) What AI companies should VCs invest in?
(32:26) SponsorThank you Omneky for sponsoring The Cognitive Revolution. Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work, customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data, to generate personalized experiences at scale.
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@amasad (Amjad)
@antoniogm (Antonio)
@altimor (Flo)
@dwr (Dan)
@eriktorenberg (Erik)
@labenz (Nathan)
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Websites:
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Show Notes & references:
Eliezer Yudkowsky: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/FKNtgZrGYwgsz3nHT/bankless-podcast-159-we-re-all-gonna-die-with-eliezer
Paul Christiano: https://paulfchristiano.com/
AI Feedback: https://www.anthropic.com/constitutional.pdf
2/23/2023 • 34 minutes, 2 seconds
E3: The Empathy Revolution with Eugenia Kuyda of Replika
(01:08) Sponsor
(01:37) Introducing Eugenia
(03:25) Replika’s controversial choice to limit erotic roleplay functionality
(04:25) Eugenia's vision for Replika
(05:58) Augmented Reality is the Ultimate Modality
(07:52) Using Replika
(13:11) Profound stories about virtual assistants
(15:55) Eugenia on why Replika is more than just a painkiller or vitamin
(28:50) Replika's business model and profitability
(34:12) Users want their Replika to surprise them
(36:12) Why ChatGPT is not a conversational model
(49:26) Eugenia's prediction for the "next Iphone of personal AI"
(1:03:00) Eugenia’s AI tools/stack
(1:15:00) Eugenia comes back to discuss Erotic Roleplay controversy
(1:18:00) Replika’s first reaction to users ERP
(1: 22:00) How the product evolved from 90% scripts & retrieval models
(1:24:00) The definitive focus for Replika to stay in a PG13 zone
(1:26:00) “Normal” evolution given sci-fi depictions of AI romances
(1:30:00) Current AI ethics on sexuality
(1:37:07) Response to journalists misportrayal
(1:40:29) Sponsor
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@labenz (Nathan)
@ekuyda (Eugenia)
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https://replika.ai/
2/17/2023 • 1 hour, 42 minutes, 5 seconds
E2: Why AI Will Cause a Cognitive Revolution with Nathan Labenz and Erik Torenberg
00:00 Coming Up
01:00 The Cognitive Revolution
01:20 Sponsor
01:39 Intro
02:09 Nathan’s path to AI
04:27 Founding Waymark
06:56 The future of AI is just starting
10:00 AI dramatically enhances human capabilities
10:50 Why we started The Cognitive Revolution and what to expect
14:55 Which guests will appear on the show and topics that will be discussed
18:59 Being replaced by an AI host
20:42 Unpacking the future of AI with “no new breakthroughs”
32:21 What’s underhyped and overhyped
43:46 The dangers of AI
44:51 Applying AI safely
52:19 Losing faith in technology
53:38 A new AI ecology
55:14 Facebook, Google and Open AI
58:00 Upside and downside case for AI
58:18 Sam Altman’s case for AI
01:09:25 Starting an AI company
01:18:22 Closing
01:18:46 Sponsor
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2/10/2023 • 1 hour, 20 minutes, 27 seconds
E1: The Pixel Revolution with Playground AI 's Suhail Doshi
00:00 Intro
00:30: Image technology breakthroughs
00:45 The Cognitive Revolution
03:10 Intro to Suhail
03:43 Sponsor
07:04 Suhail’s path to AI
12:57 Suhail’s vision for Playground
17:58 Suhail’s cancellation on Twitter
19:06 AI artists are artists
20:25 Non-AI artists feel threatened by AI
26:47 Suhail on defensibility at AI companies
30:30 Playground’s product roadmap
33:01 Suhail on good design
35:55 Latent space
44:04 Building Playground with lessons learned from Mighty
53:55 Monitoring led to 2x improvement in the product
55:53 How people use Playground
1:03:48 AI is having it’s mobile moment
01:15:12 Finding, investing and building durable AI companies
01:22:06 Suhail’s kid’s best friends may be AI characters
01:23:20 AI religion
01:24:16 Conclusion
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