Uncomfortable topics, unconventional viewpoints and thought-provoking conversations about life, love, relationships and more with some of your favorites from Bachelor Nation. Take a deep dive into critical subjects addressed on your favorite Bachelor franchise series with Bachelor Nation's Mike Johnson and Dr. Bryan Abasolo. They’ll pick up right where the show leaves off to break down topical issues, cultural moments and personal stories that are just too big to fit the screen. Join the conversation along with our special guest every week as we learn, reflect and talk it out!
Congrats to Brandon & Serene!
This week, we’re “Talking It Out” with the happily engaged couple, Brandon and Serene. Their love is the real deal, and in their conversation, the lovebirds open up about whether they seriously considered getting married in “Paradise,” what’s next for them in the real world, and their future plans for babies!
Plus, Mike and Bryan send their love to the “TIO” fam as they announce the final episode of “Talking It Out.”
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11/24/2022 • 1 hour, 4 minutes, 18 seconds
‘Talking It Out’ #100 with Andrew S. & Rodney!
This week, we’re celebrating 100 EPISODES of “Talking It Out,” and to help us celebrate are Andrew S. and Rodney! They’re chatting with Mike and Bryan about their time in “Paradise” and each of their emotional exits from the beach.
Then, Mike and Bryan look back on some of the most iconic “Talking It Out” episodes and discuss their favorite moments!
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11/17/2022 • 56 minutes, 31 seconds
Tyler Talks ‘Paradise’ Drama to Come
This week on “Talking It Out,” Tyler joins Mike and Bryan to discuss his journey on “Paradise” so far and how his life has changed since his time on “The Bachelorette”! In the conversation, Tyler talks about what made him want to go on “Paradise” (despite his family’s hesitations), his undeniable chemistry with Brittany, and his plans for the future.
Plus, there is a lot of chatter going around about the recent “BIP” reunion taping, and Tyler confirms that the hype is REAL and that it’s a show not to be missed.
Then, in their hot takes of the week, Mike and Bryan discuss whether there’s anything wrong with women wanting a partner who’s able to financially provide for them.
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11/10/2022 • 1 hour, 2 minutes, 6 seconds
Does Alex Have Game?
Alex Bordyukov joins “Talking It Out” this week, and we’re getting to know him a bit better! He opens up about his childhood in Russia, what it was like moving to a new country as a child, which of his international “Paradise” experiences was his favorite, and whether he has game when it comes to the ladies.
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11/3/2022 • 1 hour, 7 minutes, 12 seconds
Presenting Gone South Season 2: The Dixie Mafia
Starting in the early sixties, a rag-tag confederation of traveling criminals known as The Dixie Mafia terrorized every state from Georgia to Oklahoma. Its hundreds of members, unofficially headquartered in Biloxi, Mississippi, specialized in scams, heists and murder. Their ringleader - the estranged son of a prominent Oklahoma politician - was a skilled and charismatic outlaw named Kirksey Nix. When Nix was sentenced to life in prison at Angola for a murder he committed in New Orleans, The Dixie Mafia was thought to be extinct. But fifteen years later, a sitting criminal court judge named Vincent Sherry and his wife Margaret, a mayoral candidate for the city of Biloxi, were assassinated. As the case ran cold, authorities were forced to confront a disturbing reality: the reign of Kirksey Nix and The Dixie Mafia was far from over.
Gone South is a creation and production of Peabody-nominated C13Originals, a Cadence13 studio, in association with Jed and Tom Lipinski.
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10/28/2022 • 3 minutes, 49 seconds
Danielle Drops Gems
Danielle joins Mike and Bryan this week on “Talking It Out” for an honest conversation about being ready to pursue love after a lot of personal development, and, of course, how the journey is going for her on “Bachelor in Paradise” so far! She discusses what tools she used for healing from profound loss, reflects on her time on “The Bachelor,” and reveals the details of her impression of Michael before they finally met in person on the beach.
Then, in their hot takes of the week, Mike and Bryan discuss when it’s appropriate to discuss finances while dating and whether it’s a double standard for women to have “checklists” when looking for a partner.
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10/27/2022 • 1 hour, 8 minutes, 31 seconds
O Romeo, Romeo…
This week, Mike and Bryan are talking it out with Romeo, and he’s opening up about his wild journey before, during, and after “Paradise”! Our favorite mathematician breaks down the hypotenuse of his love triangle, shares why he’s DMed so many Bachelor Nation alum, and reveals how he felt when one woman returned to “Paradise.”
Then, in their hot take of the week, Mike and Bryan debate the top five best-looking men of Bachelor Nation. Listeners, please let us know if you agree!
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10/20/2022 • 1 hour, 4 minutes, 24 seconds
Rodney’s Still Just ‘Rancho Rod’
This week on “Talking It Out,” Mike and Bryan are joined by the hottest commodity to hit the beaches of “Paradise” so far: Rodney! In their conversation, Rodney opens up about why he was initially hesitant to go to “Paradise,” how having close friends like Brandon and Andrew by his side kept his spirits up, and how Lace’s bold personality caught his attention after Teddi’s shocking exit.
Plus, Rodney shares an update on how his brother Nayte is doing in the aftermath of his breakup with Michelle. He also reveals that even though his life has changed dramatically since his time on “The Bachelorette,” he’s still the same ol’ “Rancho Rod.”
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10/13/2022 • 1 hour, 4 minutes, 31 seconds
Kira’s PSA: Doctors Have Fun Too!
This week on “Talking It Out,” Kira is fresh off the beach and ready to speak her truth! In her conversation with Mike and Bryan, Kira opens up about owning her sexuality without regret, what viewers didn’t see when it came to the love triangle between herself, Romeo, and Jill, and, of course, the latest in the ongoing “Paradise” Twitter wars.
Then, in their hot takes of the week, Mike and Bryan discuss the art of negging when pursuing a romantic partner, plus Kira shares her rapid-fire opinions on her fellow “Paradise” cast members.
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10/6/2022 • 1 hour, 12 minutes, 34 seconds
Justin Talks Day 1 in 'Paradise'
"Bachelor in Paradise" has officially begun, and this week on "Talking It Out," Justin Glaze is here to talk about everything day one. Justin’s not holding back as he discusses his first steps on the beach, who initially caught his eye, and the drama that’s to come this season on "Paradise."
Then, in their hot takes of the week, Mike and Bryan discuss whether it’s attractive for women to shoot their shot and if it’s okay to go on "Bachelor in Paradise" just looking for fun.
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9/29/2022 • 58 minutes, 36 seconds
Brandon’s Ready to Find Love
This week on “Talking It Out,” it’s almost paradise! Mike and Bryan are joined by Bachelor Nation favorite Brandon for a conversation all about what he’s been up to since Michelle’s season of “The Bachelorette,” and, of course, what’s to come in the new season of “Bachelor in Paradise”!
Then, Mike and Bryan discuss the shocking “After the Final Rose,” including Rachel’s confrontation with Tino, Aven’s surprising appearance, and their reaction to Zach as the next Bachelor.
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9/22/2022 • 48 minutes, 5 seconds
What About the Engagement Holds You Back?
After watching this week’s “After the Final Rose,” Mike and Bryan have a lot of thoughts! The guys unpack all the emotions of the finale, including Rachel’s shocking breakups with Zach and Aven. Did Rachel know it wouldn’t be Aven all along? Why is Rachel getting more flak than Gabby? Who will be the next Bachelor? Mike and Bryan are asking each other the burning questions and sharing their unfiltered opinions.
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9/15/2022 • 55 minutes, 35 seconds
Nate’s Side of the Story
Nate is here this week, and he’s Talking It Out with Mike and Bryan! In their conversation, they discuss the Men Tell All and how Nate felt seeing Gabby for the first time since their breakup, Nate’s opinion on Gabby and Erich, and what it’s like being a #GirlDad. Plus, for the first time, Nate addresses the controversy that broke out on social media and explains his side of the story!
Then, in their Hot Takes of the week, Mike and Bryan discuss whether being intimate with more than one person in the Fantasy Suites is considered cheating.
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9/8/2022 • 1 hour, 13 minutes, 13 seconds
Logan Shuts Down the Conspiracies
Mike and Bryan are joined by one of the season’s most controversial men, Logan. He’s putting all the rumors to rest as he speaks about his feelings for Gabby, deciding to switch sides, his anticlimactic departure, and so much more.
Then, in their hot takes of the week, Mike and Bryan discuss whether spouses should sleep in separate rooms, and what it really means to “show up.”
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9/1/2022 • 1 hour, 5 minutes, 40 seconds
Tyler, Certified Lover Boy
This week, Mike and Bryan are joined by Tyler for an emotional conversation about his breakup with Rachel. He doesn’t hold back as he shares whether he expected Rachel to end things, what it was like being able to see his family afterward, and his thoughts on Rachel’s other Hometowns.
Then, in their hot takes of the week, Mike and Bryan discuss whether they would be able to pursue a relationship if their partner’s parents didn’t like them.
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8/25/2022 • 1 hour, 9 minutes, 40 seconds
Quincey and the Circle of Love
Mike and Bryan are joined by Quincey this week! In their conversation, Quincey opens up about his experience as a life coach, how he ended up relocating to Miami, and yes, why he chose to be celibate leading up to his time on “The Bachelorette.”
Then, in their hot takes of the week, Mike and Bryan discuss if it’s okay for ex-spouses to continue giving gifts to each other, and whether they would consider dating someone who is a parent.
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8/18/2022 • 1 hour, 1 minute, 11 seconds
Aven Opens Up
Mike and Bryan are joined by Aven this week on “Talking It Out”! In their conversation, the guys go in-depth with Aven as he opens up about his romantic one-on-one with Rachel in Belgium, growing up with divorced parents, and why his connection with Rachel is much more than just physical.
Then, in their hot takes of the week, Mike and Bryan discuss whether you should make the same amount of money as the people you’re dating, and what to do if your partner’s ex re-enters the picture.
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8/11/2022 • 1 hour, 5 minutes, 58 seconds
Introducing Mother Country Radicals
Zayd Dohrn was born underground - his parents were radicals and counter-culture outlaws, on the run from the FBI. Now Zayd takes us back to the 1970s, when his parents and their young friends in the Weather Underground Organization declared war on the United States government. They brawled with riot cops on the streets of Chicago, bombed the Pentagon and the U.S. Capitol, broke comrades out of prison, and teamed up with Black militant groups to rob banks, fight racism - and help build a revolution. All episodes of Mother Country Radicals are available on the Audacy app or wherever you get to your podcasts.
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8/8/2022 • 4 minutes, 21 seconds
Spencer Is in Gabby’s Corner
Spencer is “Talking It Out” this week with Mike and Bryan! In discussing his journey so far on “The Bachelorette,” Spencer shares why he decided to pursue Gabby, the moments between him and Gabby that Bachelor Nation hasn’t seen, and, of course, why he felt confident throwing it down in the ring. Plus, the guys get to know Spencer a bit better as he opens up about his experience in the Army.
Then, Mike and Bryan switch things up with rapid-fire hot takes that you won’t want to miss.
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8/4/2022 • 1 hour, 8 minutes, 26 seconds
What Jacob Would Have Done Differently
This week on “Talking It Out,” Jacob gets to the root of the controversial comments he made to Gabby during this week’s group date. Then, Mike and Bryan grill Jacob on what he was trying to accomplish in that moment, whether he has any regrets about his choice of words, and what he has learned about himself from his journey on “The Bachelorette.”
Then, in their hot takes of the week, Mike and Bryan discuss what to do when your partner’s ex reaches out to you and whether there’s ever a “right” way to break up with someone.
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7/28/2022 • 1 hour, 4 minutes, 54 seconds
Jordan V. Has No Regrets
Jordan V. is in the hot seat this week, and the man many thought was a favorite for Rachel’s final rose has a lot to say! In his conversation with Mike and Bryan, Jordan V. opens up about going into “The Bachelorette” with eyes only for Rachel, how he felt being sent home on the first one-on-one, all about his unique career as a drag racer, plus so much more.
Then, Mike and Bryan weigh in on Chris’ controversial comment and praise Nate for standing up for Gabby and Rachel.
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7/21/2022 • 1 hour, 4 minutes, 46 seconds
Introducing: Bachelor Happy Hour
The one and only official Bachelor Nation podcast is here! Co-hosted by Becca Kufrin and Michelle Young, “Bachelor Happy Hour” is a companion piece to “The Bachelor,” “The Bachelorette” and “Bachelor in Paradise” and is currently following the history making season of “The Bachelorette,” co-starring Rachel Recchia and Gabby Windey.
Michelle and Becca take you behind the scenes of what really goes on when the cameras aren't rolling and will be the first to chat with those broken-hearted men who were sent home. “Bachelor Happy Hour” has all the inside information that you simply won’t hear anywhere else. Welcome to your new home for all things Bachelor Nation!
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7/20/2022 • 4 minutes, 43 seconds
Roby Is ‘The Magic King’
This week on “Talking It Out,” Mike and Bryan are joined by Roby (aka “The Magic King”), and he definitely has some tricks up his sleeve! In their conversation, Roby opens up about his international upbringing, his journey to becoming a magician, and just how tricky navigating night one was with two Bachelorettes. Pun intended.
Then, in their hot takes of the week, Bryan and Mike discuss whether Bachelor-style dating practices work in the real world.
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7/14/2022 • 1 hour, 11 minutes, 32 seconds
Mike and Bryan put their families in the hot seat!
This week on Talking It Out, Mike and Bryan are joined by two VERY special guests - Mike's sister, Amber and Bryan's mom, Olga. In their conversation, Amber and Olga don't hold back as they reveal what it was like to watch their family member look for love on television and all the fun, cringy, and surprising things that came along with it.
Then, in their hot takes of the week, Mike and Bryan discuss dating after loss and whether wedding planning should fall equally to both partners.
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7/7/2022 • 1 hour, 9 minutes, 34 seconds
Caila Quinn on Hard Lessons Learned
Bachelor Nation’s Caila Quinn is taken out of her comfort zone as she joins Mike and Bryan for a conversation covering “Paradise” love triangles, valuable lessons learned during her first year of marriage, and how an unfortunate incident with a snake completely changed her way of thinking. Plus, in their hot takes of the week, Mike and Bryan share how they feel about the age-old adage “never go to sleep angry,” and whether they think it’s possible to form meaningful relationships with people whose politics differ from your own.
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6/30/2022 • 1 hour, 3 minutes
Evan Bass on His Healing Journey
Mike and Bryan have a very honest conversation with Evan Bass as he looks back on his time with the Bachelor franchise and how his life has changed since. For the first time since his divorce, Evan opens up about what went wrong in his marriage to Carly, where he is in the healing process, and whether he could ever see himself getting married again.
Plus, Evan joins Mike and Bryan to discuss this week’s hot take: Is proposing at someone else’s wedding ever okay?!
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6/23/2022 • 1 hour, 1 minute, 36 seconds
Krystal Nielson on Her Post-Divorce Life and Future Plans
Bachelor Nation fan favorite Krystal Nielson opens up about the many ways in which her life has changed over the last two years. In their conversation, Krystal shares what it was like to rebuild after her divorce, how forcing herself to stay open to love allowed her to find something magic with boyfriend Miles Bowles, and what she wishes someone would have told her before she became a mom. Plus, are there wedding bells and more kids in the future for her and Miles? Listen now to find out!
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6/16/2022 • 1 hour, 11 minutes, 37 seconds
Hot Takes: Love, Dating, and Relationships
This week on “Talking It Out,” Mike and Bryan answer listener questions on love, dating, and relationships! Nothing is off the table in this discussion as the guys cover topics like sexual compatibility, cheating, the apps, and so much more. Plus, how did their time on “The Bachelorette” shape their perspective on dating? Listen now to find out!
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6/9/2022 • 1 hour, 8 minutes, 48 seconds
Kenny Braasch Breaks Down the Boy Band Life
Kenny Braasch reveals what it really means to live life in the boy band world. In his discussion with Mike and Bryan, Kenny shares how he got his start in the boy band biz, what his fiancée Mari thinks of his career, and how far he hopes to take the band in the future. Plus, Kenny shares who from Bachelor Nation he’d love to see come together to form their own boy band.
Then, in their hot takes of the week, Mike and Bryan debate which is a more ominous statement in a relationship: “I have a question for you” or “We need to talk.”
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6/2/2022 • 1 hour, 15 minutes, 18 seconds
Kelley Flanagan Takes the Hot Seat
This week on “Talking It Out,” Kelley Flanagan is in the hot seat and she does not hold back! In her conversation with Mike and Bryan, Kelley opens up about what her close-knit family really thought of her going on “The Bachelor,” how her life has changed with her Lyme diagnosis, and why she is officially done talking about Peter. Plus, she shares what really goes down in the DMs of Bachelor Nation and why we won’t be seeing her in “Paradise” anytime soon.
Then, in their hot takes of the week, Mike and Bryan get into the double standards that exist while dating, especially when it comes to physical appearance.
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5/26/2022 • 1 hour, 10 minutes, 57 seconds
Rachel Lindsay Talks It Out
This week on “Talking It Out,” Rachel Lindsay Abasolo joins Mike and Bryan for a thoughtful discussion where she shares how life has changed since stepping away from the Bachelor franchise, advice she has for young women who want to work in the media, and the importance of staying authentic to oneself in all endeavors, both personal and professional.
Plus, Rachel joins the guys for their hot takes of the week, and for old times’ sake, she shares her thoughts on some recent drama in Bachelor Nation.
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5/19/2022 • 1 hour, 15 minutes, 14 seconds
Michael A. on Life After ‘The Bachelorette’
Michael A. from Katie’s season of “The Bachelorette” joins Mike and Bryan for a conversation about life since the show and the lessons he has learned along the way. Michael discusses how the show changed his perspective on dating, whether he thought he and Katie had a future after her season ended, and if he would ever be the Bachelor in the future. Then, Michael shares details about his relationship with Amanda Kloots, and a very special guest joins for a surprise appearance.
Plus, in this week’s hot takes, Mike and Bryan discuss their thoughts on cell phone etiquette during a first date.
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5/12/2022 • 1 hour, 2 minutes, 23 seconds
Ben Higgins on Finding Purpose After ‘The Bachelor’
Former Bachelor (and perennial fan favorite) Ben Higgins is “Talking It Out” with Mike and Bryan this week! Ben shares more about newly married life, how abstaining from sex made his relationship stronger, and why his family plans have changed since the wedding. Then, Ben details life before “The Bachelor,” the important role he’s taken on in the “Bachelor” franchise, and how he’s finding purpose with his platform.
Plus, Mike and Bryan reveal the changes they’d make in life, knowing what they know now, on this week’s hot takes!
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5/5/2022 • 1 hour, 13 minutes, 3 seconds
Dr. Amen Gives Insight on the Power of a Healthy Brain
Trigger warning: Heavy discussions surrounding mental health — including depictions and discussions of self-harming behavior such as suicide, self-inflicted injuries, and disordered eating. If you or someone you know is struggling with mental health, please contact www.nimh.nih.gov/health/find-help.
On this week’s episode of “Talking It Out,” the TikTok doctor is in the house. Dr. Daniel Amen joins Mike and Bryan for an eye-opening conversation regarding mental health.
Dr. Amen goes in depth about brain scanning and describes the negative effects that certain foods, physical activities, and fame can have on the brain. Plus, Dr. Amen shares his advice on how to achieve a happier, healthier brain and talks about his new book “You, Happier.”
Then, Mike and Bryan get real with their hot takes of the week. They discuss how to help a friend when you are concerned for their well-being and the ways that social media affects your mental health.
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4/28/2022 • 1 hour, 4 minutes, 25 seconds
Mari Pepin Is Ready to Take the Crown
Mike and Bryan are joined by “Bachelor” and “Bachelor in Paradise” alum Mari Pepin. She dives deep into explaining her journey to become Miss World Puerto Rico, her wedding plans with Kenny, and much more!
Then, Mike and Bryan answer a fan question about what celebrity they think would make a good Bachelor or Bachelorette, and they discuss the hot trend of not taking the man’s last name in marriage.
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4/21/2022 • 1 hour, 2 minutes, 8 seconds
EXCLUSIVE: Susie Evans Discusses the Fake Cheating Scandal
In this exclusive interview, “Bachelor” alum Susie Evans addresses the recent TikTok scandal that shocked Bachelor Nation.
Tune in as she confirms the receipts, talks about how she and Clayton have learned to navigate through this experience, and so much more. Plus, a special guest makes an appearance.
Then, in their hot take of the week, Mike and Bryan discuss the latest news regarding Ray J and Kim Kardashian and pose the question about the difficulties of being in the limelight.
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4/14/2022 • 1 hour, 6 minutes, 11 seconds
Ashley Iaconetti Spills the Facts About Being a Mom
Bachelor Nation icon and “Bachelor” alum Ashley I. joins Mike and Bryan to update the guys on life, her difficult pregnancy, and what it’s like for her and Jared being new parents. Plus, she reveals who named Dawson and why (hint: It’s based on Ashley’s favorite movie). Plus, Ashley shares details about her and Jared’s new business and so much more!
Then, in their hot take of the week, Mike and Bryan discuss former Dolphins football player Channing Crowder calling Russell Wilson a square.
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4/7/2022 • 1 hour, 7 minutes, 50 seconds
Andrew Spencer Is Ready to Fall in Love!
On this week's "Talking It Out," Mike and Bryan are joined by “The Bachelorette” alum (and fan favorite) Andrew Spencer!
Fresh off the “Bachelor Live on Stage” tour, Andrew shares more about his time on “The Bachelorette,” how he landed an exciting new job, and gets deep about the hardships that shaped him into the man he is today. Plus, Andrew reveals what ladies he would like to see on the beaches of Paradise, being a romantic, and so much more!
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3/31/2022 • 1 hour, 14 minutes, 39 seconds
Justin Sylvester on Living His Truth
On this week's "Talking It Out," Mike and Bryan are joined by Emmy nominated host of E!'s “Daily Pop,” Justin Sylvester for a hilarious and insightful conversation.
Justin shares more about the difficulties of growing up in the south and how he earned the nickname “Ladysitter” at age 14 and then turned it into a thriving career in Hollywood. Plus, we talk shirtless photos, being Rachel Lindsay's “Gusband” and so much more!
Then, Mike discusses whether you should follow someone on social media when you first start dating, and Bryan answers a fan question in today’s Hot Takes.
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3/24/2022 • 1 hour, 21 minutes, 44 seconds
Greg Grippo on Controversial 'Bachelor' Finale
Mike and Bryan are back this week with another exciting and deep episode of “Talking It Out,” joined by former “Bachelorette” contestant Greg Grippo. Greg shares more about what life was like coming off “The Bachelorette,” everything he learned from his time on the show, and the lasting friendships he’s made.
He also spills about his current relationship status, talks about the important role his family plays, and opens up about his future goals to honor his late father. Then, we get all his thoughts on this week’s finale of “The Bachelor.”
Plus, Mike and Bryan talk honesty and Clayton’s ending on this week’s “Hot Takes.”
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3/17/2022 • 1 hour, 7 minutes, 54 seconds
EXCLUSIVE: Shanae Tells All
In this week’s exclusive interview, Mike and Bryan are joined by one of the most controversial women in “Bachelor” history, Shanae. Shanae gets real about all the drama that went down with the other women on this season of “The Bachelor.” Then, she shares more details about the shrimp debacle, and reveals her thoughts about “Women Tell All.” Plus, the guys get to know the Shanae you didn’t see on-screen, including more about her life growing up in Ohio, what she’s learned from past relationships, and so much more.
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3/10/2022 • 59 minutes, 15 seconds
Sarah Discusses Her Feelings for Clayton and Being Sent Home: Part Two
In part two of “Talking It Out” with Sarah, Mike and Bryan get to know more about Sarah’s upbringing and family life. Then, Sarah shares more about her relationship with Clayton, whether she really thought he was her person, and the real reason she was sent home from Croatia.
Then Mike, Bryan, and Sarah drop an inspirational gem.
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3/8/2022 • 47 minutes, 21 seconds
Sarah Talks Age and Being Ready for Marriage: Part One
In this week’s spicy two-part episode, Mike and Bryan are joined by “The Bachelor” contestant Sarah to talk about everything that went down from her time on the show. Sarah addresses her early one-on-one date with Clayton, the dynamic in the house with the other women, whether she is truly ready for marriage at 23, and the beginning of her drama during the roast date in Toronto. Make sure to check out part two on Monday after “Women Tell All” for more!
Plus, Mike and Bryan talk dating and when is the right time to introduce someone to your parents.
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3/3/2022 • 41 minutes, 26 seconds
Mike & Bryan Talk Love, Sex, and So Much More!
Mike and Bryan are back this week to answer all your burning relationship questions. They talk about cheating, asking for what you want in the bedroom, the realities of being single, and so much more.
Plus, Mike and Bryan talk “The Bachelor” drama from Monday’s episode.
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2/24/2022 • 1 hour, 3 minutes, 39 seconds
Jill on 'The Bachelor' Drama and Ghost Hunting
This week on “Talking it Out,” Mike and Bryan are joined by Jill, who was eliminated from “The Bachelor” this week. Jill shares more details about her time on the show, what it was like in the locker room after losing the football game, her attempt at befriending Shanae and if we can expect to see her on the beaches of “Paradise.” Then, Mike and Bryan share their gems of the week.
Plus, Mike and Bryan talk about the importance of age in relationships in this week's hot takes.
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2/17/2022 • 1 hour, 22 minutes, 25 seconds
Serene on Love, Loss, and Her Date with Clayton
Mike and Bryan are back with another insightful episode of “Talking It Out,” and this week, the guys are chatting with “The Bachelor” standout Serene. Serene details her first one-on-one date with Clayton and shares more about the difficult conversation she had with Clayton. Then, Serene shares more about her upbringing and family life, reveals why she loves being a teacher, and leaves us with some wise words for life.
Plus, Mike and Bryan talk manipulation in relationships on this week’s hot takes.
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2/10/2022 • 1 hour, 2 minutes, 51 seconds
Marlena, the Olympian and 'Bachelor Bowl' Champ, Stops By
This week, Mike and Bryan are joined by “The Bachelor” powerhouse and former Olympian, Marlena! Marlena details growing up as one of five children, how she got started in track and field and the path that led her to compete for Haiti in the Olympics. Then, Marlena shares more about her athleticism at “The Bachelor Bowl” date and how her HR background helped her deal with everything that went on in the house.
Plus, Mike and Bryan talk “The Bachelor” drama in this week’s hot takes.
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2/3/2022 • 1 hour, 14 minutes, 47 seconds
EXCLUSIVE: Clayton on His Body Dysmorphia Struggle and Fear of Seeing His Body on TV
In part two of Mike and Bryan’s exclusive interview with the Bachelor, Clayton discusses the middle school teasing he endured that led to his body dysmorphia and the actions he now takes to feel comfortable in his own skin. Clayton also opens up on how to turn weakness into strength and steps to take to protect your mental health on social media.
Plus, Mike, Bryan, and Clayton drop some gems for the listeners.
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1/31/2022 • 43 minutes, 17 seconds
EXCLUSIVE: Clayton Talks Overcoming Childhood Bullies, Body Image Struggles
In part one of Mike and Bryan’s exclusive interview with Clayton Echard, the Bachelor opens up about his insecurities as an adolescent and discusses the bullying he endured from teammates that led to his body dysmorphia. Clayton also reveals the culture shock he feels watching himself on television and how he’s keeping his family and friends close in the face of Internet bullying.
Plus, Mike and Bryan share their hot takes about bullying and manipulation as they react to Monday’s episode of “The Bachelor.”
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1/27/2022 • 54 minutes, 3 seconds
Jesse Palmer on Going from the Bachelor to “The Bachelor” Host!
This is an exciting week on “Talking It Out” as Mike and Bryan are joined by former Bachelor-turned-host of “The Bachelor” Jesse Palmer! Jesse joins for a candid conversation about the responsibilities of stepping into his new role as host after being a Bachelor himself, his successful NFL-turned-broadcasting career, and the hard-hitting way he met his new wife — plus what they’re looking forward to in the future!
Then, Jesse shares what it’s been like to help mentor Clayton through his season and gives an insider sneak peek at what we can expect for the rest of the season.
Plus, Mike, Bryan, and Jesse leave us with inspiration in our new segment “Dropping Gems.”
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1/20/2022 • 55 minutes, 12 seconds
Sierra Talks ‘Bachelor’ Drama and Shares Her Unique Story
This week, Mike and Bryan are joined by “The Bachelor” standout Sierra to catch up on all the drama from this season so far and so much more! Sierra shares more about her unique upbringing, packing up her life to move to Korea, and how she got to where she is now. Then, Sierra spills some tea on the drama at the Bachelor Mansion and gives some insight into her conversation with Clayton.
Plus, Mike and Bryan talk Drake and hot sauce, plus their thoughts on all the drama going down on “The Bachelor.”
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1/13/2022 • 1 hour, 5 minutes, 9 seconds
Gabby on Her Hilarious Limo Arrival and Bachelor Nation Exes
Mike and Bryan are back to kick off 2022 with their one-year “Talking It Out” anniversary and new season of “The Bachelor”! This week, they are joined by funny girl Gabby, who has already caused some Internet buzz with her Bachelor Nation exes.
Gabby addresses her past relationships and sets the record straight. She also discusses her sense of humor, which led to her hilarious and memorable limo arrival on this week’s episode of “The Bachelor.” Then, Gabby shares more about her career as a dancer and NFL cheerleader and gets deep about her work as an ICU nurse on the front lines during the global pandemic.
Plus, Mike and Bryan talk about dating someone your friend has dated and more on this week’s hot takes!
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1/6/2022 • 53 minutes, 12 seconds
Happy New Year from ‘Talking It Out’!
This week, Mike and Bryan wave goodbye to 2021 with some special moments from the last year. The guys get sentimental as they share their New Year’s resolutions and detail their hopes going into next year.
Then, Mike and Bryan take us through a countdown of some of the best guests, most memorable moments, and noteworthy “gems” from this incredible first year of “Talking It Out.” Plus, the hosts give a special thank you to all of our listeners.
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12/30/2021 • 1 hour, 53 seconds
Exclusive: The Man with the Final Rose, Nayte!
“The Bachelorette” is officially over, and this week Mike and Bryan talk to the man who received Michelle’s first and last rose: Nayte! Mike and Nayte squash their Internet beef, and Nayte explains the evolution of his relationship with Michelle, when he knew he was falling in love, and what he loves most about his fiancée. Then, Nayte talks about his bromance with Rodney, his life-changing conversation with his stepdad, and future plans as a newly engaged man!
Plus, Mike and Bryan talk falling in love with two people and more in this week’s hot takes.
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12/23/2021 • 1 hour, 24 minutes, 11 seconds
Brandon on His ‘Bachelorette’ Love Story
This week, “Talking It Out” celebrates our 50th episode with an exclusive chat between Mike and one of Michelle’s final two men, Brandon! Brandon shares more about getting to know Michelle with no cameras, how he felt after their date, and why he decided to pull her for a dramatic chat in this week’s Rose Ceremony.
Then, we get to know more about Brandon’s upbringing in Portland, his special bond with his brother, and why life wasn’t always easy for him growing up as a biracial person.
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12/16/2021 • 49 minutes, 37 seconds
Martin Speaks About His Controversial Journey on ‘The Bachelorette’
Martin, the controversial “Bachelorette” contestant from Miami, joins Mike and Bryan this week to respond to unanswered questions from his time on show. Martin expands on his initial connection with Michelle, the one-on-one date where things started to change, and the miscommunications within their relationship. Then, Martin further explains his “high maintenance” comment, his regret at “throwing a fit” at the end of his time on the show, and what hurt him the most at “Men Tell All.”
Plus, Mike and Bryan talk about why your man won’t apologize and when it’s time to leave a cheating partner, in this week’s Hot Takes.
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12/9/2021 • 1 hour, 10 minutes, 12 seconds
Olumide on His ‘Bachelorette’ Journey
Mike and Bryan are back this week talking to Olumide, a standout (and probably the most muscular guy) from this season of “The Bachelorette”! Olumide discusses his rich Nigerian culture, growing up with five sisters, and the reason he was able to open up to Michelle. Then, Olumide details his breakthrough on the show and why he warned Michelle about Martin, and he also gives a juicy tease about what we can expect on “Men Tell All.”
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12/2/2021 • 1 hour, 4 minutes, 20 seconds
Exclusive: Blake Moynes on His Breakup and Healing
In this week’s exclusive interview, Mike and Bryan are joined by Bachelor Nation fan favorite Blake Moynes for an intimate conversation on the end of his engagement and the animal conservation efforts that are helping him to heal. Plus, we check back in with Blake for a real-time update regarding his ex-fiancée’s newest announcement.
Then, Mike and Bryan talk exes and social media in their Hot Take of the Week.
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11/24/2021 • 1 hour, 34 minutes, 55 seconds
One Slice at a Time!
This week, Mike and Bryan are joined by a man who certainly made a name for himself on this season of “The Bachelorette.” Peter the Pizza Man is in the building! Peter doesn’t hold back as he gets real about the beef with Will, the deeper reason why being called a narcissist affected him, and, of course, the jacket/pool debacle. Then, Peter shares more about his successful pizza enterprise, the lessons on food he learned in Italy, and the importance of family in his life.
Plus, Mike and Bryan discuss what it means for a woman to be “high maintenance” and share their thoughts on “askholes.”
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11/18/2021 • 55 minutes, 46 seconds
Michelle Young, We See You!
This week is a big one, y’all. Bachelorette Michelle stops by, and she’s dropping gems that you need to hear. Michelle reveals her favorite date so far, how she’s balancing it all, and the importance of being vulnerable. Plus, she goes even deeper about not feeling seen on her group date. Michelle also details the approach she takes when having difficult conversations with her students and the importance of daily affirmations with her children.
Then, Mike and Bryan go head-to-head about the Chris S. and Nayte beef in this week’s hot takes!
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11/11/2021 • 1 hour, 6 minutes, 1 second
Rodney Shows Why He’s the Apple of Our Eye
“The Bachelorette” favorite Rodney stops by “Talking It Out with Bachelor Nation” this week to discuss the man behind the apple costume and his “Bachelorette” journey so far. Rodney details growing and learning from his past relationships, the important role his mother has played in who he is and how he treats others, and why sports helped mold him into the man we see today. Then, Rodney weighs in on the Jamie drama and offers his advice on how to be your best self.
Plus, Mike and Bryan discuss the importance of how you say things, and whether personality exceeds all.
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11/4/2021 • 1 hour, 3 minutes, 21 seconds
PJ the Firefighter on Turning Pain into Purpose
PJ caused quite a blaze among fans with his fire truck entrance on “The Bachelorette” and sadly was eliminated early, but this week he joins Mike and Bryan to share more about his life. PJ details growing up in Texas and his journey to becoming a firefighter. He also reveals heartbreaking details about both of his brothers’ deaths and explains more about the Bakari Foundation, which he started in memory of his brother who was murdered overseas. Then, PJ talks about his brief time on “The Bachelorette” and all the drama that went down on this week’s episode.
Plus, Mike and Bryan discuss vulnerability and why Jamie broke the “cardinal rule” on “The Bachelorette.”
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10/28/2021 • 58 minutes, 53 seconds
Kaitlyn Bristowe Breaks Down ‘The Bachelorette’ Premiere
Former Bachelorette, podcast host, entrepreneur, and co-host of “The Bachelorette” Kaitlyn Bristowe stops by “Talking It Out with Bachelor Nation” to discuss night one and all the exciting things happening in her life. Kaitlyn covers everything from her thoughts on finding Ryan’s document to dealing with Internet trolls to when she and Jason are hoping to tie the knot.
Plus, she reveals her favorite (and not so favorite) night one entrances and who she thinks are the best matches so far for Michelle.
Plus, Mike and Bryan have a lively debate over their thoughts on male grooming and break down where their personal limits lie.
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10/21/2021 • 1 hour, 2 minutes, 5 seconds
Exclusive: Becca & Thomas Talk Finding Love and Future Plans
Becca and Thomas stop by “Talking It Out” for their FIRST interview as a happy couple following their on-screen breakup in “Paradise.” In this exclusive with Mike and Bryan, the couple discuss how they reconnected and rekindled their relationship after “Paradise,” their decision to go public, and what the future holds for them as a couple. Becca also reveals what she learned from her past — very public — relationships and breakups.
Plus, Mike discusses social media etiquette when it comes to dating, and Bryan dives into the tough conversations couples need to have before getting married.
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10/14/2021 • 1 hour, 4 minutes, 53 seconds
Kenny & Mari Celebrate Their ‘Bachelor in Paradise’ Engagement
Fresh off the beaches of “Paradise,” in one of their first interviews as an engaged couple, Kenny and Mari join Mike and Bryan to celebrate their engagement! The couple shares details on what it’s been like watching their love story unfold on TV, how they overcame challenges in their relationship — including the infamous cake in the fire — and how they each knew they had found “the one.” Kenny and Mari also reveal what’s in store next, including a possible move and kids!
Plus, Bryan offers advice to the couple on how to make their relationship work after the show.
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10/7/2021 • 54 minutes
Serena P. on Living with Joe's Ex, Kendall
Serena P., fan favorite from Matt James' season, joins Mike and Bryan to share how she's feeling about everything that went down on “Bachelor in Paradise.” This woman has been through a lot! She details how she got through living with Kendall while in a relationship with Joe, her admiration for how Joe handled the “Paradise” drama and what attracted her to him. Then, Serena talks about the Brendan and Pieper drama and reveals where she stands now with the former “Bachelor 25” castmate, Pieper.
Plus, Mike and Bryan discuss Aaron and Ivan's “Paradise” beef and the importance of communicating in a relationship.
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9/30/2021 • 56 minutes, 58 seconds
Aaron Talks 'Bachelor in Paradise' Drama with Ivan
“Bachelor in Paradise’s” Aaron Clancy opens up to Mike and Bryan about the love triangle he found himself in with Ivan and Chelsea on the beach. He explains why he was so upset about how Ivan handled himself and how he really felt about Chelsea.
Aaron also discusses how he felt when Tammy chose Thomas over him, and how his experiences on “The Bachelorette” and “Bachelor in Paradise” affected his outlook on dating.
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9/23/2021 • 59 minutes, 34 seconds
Deandra Kanu Speaks Out on ‘Disgruntled Females’ Label
Fresh off the beaches of "Bachelor in Paradise," Deandra Kanu joins Mike and Bryan to dish on everything that went down on the sand. She details the difference between her time on “Paradise” versus “The Bachelor,” why she’s glad she didn’t try to force a relationship, and the different levels of “friend-zoning.” Then, Deandra weighs in on the Brendan/Pieper drama and reveals what she’s up to next!
Plus, Mike and Bryan discuss Thomas’ redemption on “Bachelor in Paradise.”
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9/20/2021 • 45 minutes, 48 seconds
Kendall Long Breaks Down While Discussing ‘Bachelor in Paradise’ Appearance
Bachelor Nation fan favorite Kendall Long joins Mike and Bryan to share details on why she decided to hit the beach and confront her ex Joe on “Bachelor in Paradise.” Kendall reveals what led to the couple’s breakup, what she was hoping for in “Paradise,” and why she’s finally happy and ready to find love.
Plus, Mike and Bryan weigh in on the Brendan and Pieper scandal on “Bachelor in Paradise,” and they invite Brendan to the show to address the drama.
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9/13/2021 • 58 minutes, 12 seconds
EXCLUSIVE: Dale Moss Speaks Out About His Time on ‘The Bachelorette’ and His Relationship with Clare
In this “Talking It Out” exclusive, Dale Moss reveals more about his experiences on “The Bachelorette.” He details the dynamic he shared with the other men during filming, what his relationship with Clare was like, and how he’s managed the difficult times the couple faced in the public eye. Dale also addresses the rumors he went on the show seeking fame.
Plus, Mike and Bryan discuss the double standards women face about sex.
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9/6/2021 • 1 hour, 4 minutes, 29 seconds
Exclusive: Thomas Reveals Never-Before-Heard Details from His Past, Plus: His Controversial Time on ‘The Bachelorette’
Thomas from Katie Thurston’s season of “The Bachelorette” joins Mike and Bryan for an intimate conversation about the man behind who we saw on TV. Thomas shares details about his upbringing as a biracial man, his struggles with depression, and the importance of his personal mentors. Then, he opens up about keeping a positive outlook after his time on “The Bachelorette” and what we can look forward to from his time on “Bachelor in Paradise.”
Plus, what scenario would make you break up with your partner? Mike and Bryan weigh in.
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8/30/2021 • 1 hour, 5 minutes, 35 seconds
Hunter Speaks Out on Sobriety, Tourette’s Syndrome, and What’s in Store for His ‘Paradise’ Friends
Hunter, a standout contestant from Katie’s season of “The Bachelorette,” joins “Talking It Out” this week to share more about his incredible life story. Hunter reveals details on his harrowing journey with drugs and how a close-call trip to prison led him on his path to sobriety. He also opens up about his experiences as a single father and why his Tourette’s syndrome being shown on “The Bachelorette” is something he’s now extremely proud of. Then, Hunter gives us some tea about his friends on the beaches of “Bachelor in Paradise.” Plus, would your current partner have been your type 10 years ago? Mike and Bryan weigh in. Don’t forget to rate and subscribe so you never miss an episode.
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8/23/2021 • 1 hour, 10 minutes, 29 seconds
Grocery Store Joe Steps In As Co-Host; ‘Bachelor in Paradise’ is Back!
“Bachelor in Paradise” is back, and Joe Amabile steps in as guest co-host with Mike Johnson to talk it out! The guys are joined by Kelsey Weier, who you may remember from "champagne-gate" on season 24 of “The Bachelor,” and she gives us a tease of what we can expect on the upcoming season of “Paradise.” Kelsey breaks down what she's learned about herself after her time on “The Bachelor” and all about the new flirting techniques she's bringing to the beaches of “Paradise” this season.
Plus, is it more important for your partner's parents or siblings to like you? Mike and Joe weigh in on that and more on this week's episode.
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8/16/2021 • 57 minutes, 53 seconds
Natasha Parker on Egg Freezing; Bryan Talks Freezing His Sperm
In this week's “Talking it Out,” Natasha Parker breaks down her egg freezing journey and discusses why now was the right time for her to start the process. She shares details of the egg retrieval, how it has affected her body and the pressure society puts on women to have children. Then, Mike and Bryan discuss sperm freezing, and Bryan shares why he decided to freeze his sperm.
Plus, Mike and Bryan share their thoughts on Katie and Greg's dramatic breakup.
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8/9/2021 • 52 minutes, 17 seconds
Mike & Bryan Discuss Sex and Intimacy with Sexologist Shan Boodram
In today's "Talking it Out," Mike and Bryan talk to renowned sexologist Shan Boodram about mental health and sex, how to communicate with your sexual partner and what women wish men knew when it comes to sex.
Plus, Mike and Bryan weigh in on athletes like Simone Biles standing up for their mental health and more in today's hot takes.
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8/2/2021 • 1 hour, 4 minutes, 27 seconds
Brendan Shares His Story, Teases ‘Men Tell All’ Drama
Brendan, who made it far on “The Bachelorette,” was a mystery to the fans. He joined Mike and Bryan to share more of his story and details we didn’t get to see on the show. He talks about his mixed race and nontraditional family life, and why a healthy relationship is so important to him. He also spills about his relationship with Katie and what to expect at “Men Tell All.”
Plus, what would you do if you saw your friend cheat? Mike and Bryan weigh in on that topic and more on today’s hot takes.
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7/27/2021 • 1 hour, 9 minutes, 50 seconds
Mike P. on the Judgment He’s Faced as an Athlete and Virgin
Fan favorite Mike P. from this season of “The Bachelorette” opens up to Mike and Bryan about his choice to remain a virgin until marriage and the judgment he faced during his time as a professional athlete. He shares details of his family life growing up, the hypersensitivity he has about sex due to his sisters, and what he dealt with in the past from teammates in the locker room.
Plus, what do men wish women knew? Mike and Bryan weigh in on that topic and more in today’s hot takes.
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7/20/2021 • 48 minutes, 33 seconds
Franco Lacosta on His Role in the Bachelor Franchise and Being Comfortable in His Own Skin
Bachelor Nation’s favorite guest Franco Lacosta opens up to Mike and Bryan about what led him to the Bachelor franchise. He reveals the “Bachelor” couples he knew would end up together and who his Bachelor Nation crush is. He also talks about his childhood in Puerto Rico, fluid sexuality, and why he’s always felt comfortable in his own skin.
Plus, is lingerie canceled? Mike and Bryan weigh in on that and more on today’s hot takes.
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7/12/2021 • 1 hour, 4 minutes, 15 seconds
Mike & Bryan Discuss What They Learned About Themselves on Reality TV
In today’s “Talking It Out,” Mike and Bryan are diving into fan questions, opening up about everything from the worst headline they’ve seen about themselves to the one piece of advice they’d give to single guys. Bryan discusses the instant bond he felt with Rachel on “The Bachelorette,” and both Mike and Bryan reveal the biggest regret they have from their time on the show.
Plus, the hosts weigh in on social media and the effect it has on the beauty standards people set for themselves.
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7/5/2021 • 1 hour, 1 minute, 18 seconds
Jason Tartick on Being a Supportive Partner and Internet Bullying
Bachelor Nation fan favorite Jason Tartick opens up to Mike and Bryan about life with fiancée Kaitlyn Bristowe and what it’s like being with such a successful woman. Jason and Bryan both discuss how they knew Kaitlyn and Rachel were “the one” and how they feel about gender roles when it comes to their relationships.
Plus, Jason shares how hard Kaitlyn worked while on “Dancing with the Stars,” and discusses the ways they continue to support each other’s dreams. Jason, Mike, and Bryan also talk about how they deal with online bullies.
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6/28/2021 • 59 minutes, 4 seconds
Exclusive: Bachelorette Katie Thurston Goes In-Depth on Past Trauma and Why Consent Is a Must
Bachelorette Katie Thurston opens up to Mike and Bryan about the sexual trauma she experienced and reveals why she felt compelled to tell her very personal story on the show. Katie discusses why it’s so important to normalize these conversations and talks about how learning from her past experiences has helped her have a healthy relationship with sex now.
Plus, Katie, Mike, and Bryan discuss why it’s so important to share past trauma with your partner and why healthy communication is a must. Katie also shares what it was like finally telling her mother about her past experience.
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6/22/2021 • 54 minutes, 49 seconds
Tayshia Adams’ Father, Desmond, Stops By
It’s almost Father’s Day, and what better way to celebrate than with the amazing father of former “Bachelorette” Tayshia Adams? Desmond Adams joins Mike and Bryan and shares what Tayshia was like as a child and reveals how he found out about Tayshia going on “The Bachelor.”
Desmond also explains how he knew that Colton Underwood wasn’t the one during their hometown date on “The Bachelor.” Then, he shares what he thinks about his future son-in-law Zac Clark.
Plus, a special surprise from Tayshia!
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6/14/2021 • 55 minutes, 30 seconds
Bibiana on the Depression She Faced After ‘Bachelor in Paradise’ and How She Overcame It
Bachelor Nation’s Bibiana Julian opens up about falling into a deep depression after coming off “Bachelor in Paradise.” She reveals the steps she took to begin healing and why she’s working to help others live their best lives as well. She also shares what she learned about herself watching the show back.
Plus, would you rekindle a romance with an ex? Mike, Bryan, and Bibiana weigh in on that topic and more in today’s hot takes.
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6/7/2021 • 57 minutes, 35 seconds
Man Chat: Getting Real About Cancel Culture
Mike and Bryan dive into the topic of cancel culture, discussing how severe an action must be to justify someone being “canceled.” They also debate the difference between cancel culture and accountability culture.
Plus, does canceling someone actually teach them a lesson? Or is there a better way to hold someone accountable? Mike and Bryan get into it all.
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5/31/2021 • 59 minutes, 36 seconds
Bachelor Nation’s Tammy Ly Gets Real About ‘Having It All’
Fan favorite Tammy Ly joins Mike and Bryan to talk about the modern-day work culture and the effect it has on our relationships. Mike and Bryan discuss their views on the woman making more money than the man in a relationship, and Tammy shares why her making more money than a boyfriend ended a previous relationship.
Then, can you really have it all? Tammy, Mike, and Bryan weigh in on whether you can date while pursuing your career and whether being “too busy to date” is legit or a cop-out. Plus, will we see Tammy on the beaches of “Paradise”?
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5/24/2021 • 57 minutes, 31 seconds
The One and Only Erin Brockovich Talks It Out
Activist and “Rebel” producer Erin Brockovich joins Mike and Bryan to discuss her incredible life and how being stubborn and persistent helped her change the world. Erin recalls her time fighting in Hinkley, California, which was featured in the movie “Erin Brockovich,” and explains why mothers should never feel guilty for the fact that they work.
Erin also discusses how becoming a grandmother has reinvigorated her drive to make the world a better place and why we should all bring out our inner rebel.
Learn more about “Rebel” on ABC.
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5/17/2021 • 49 minutes, 42 seconds
Bri Springs Talks Unconventional Families and Reveals Her Mom’s Skepticism of Matt James
Bachelor Nation’s Bri Springs joins Mike and Bryan to discuss her childhood growing up with a teenage mom and how that impacted her entire life. Bri also opens up about her mom’s skepticism when it came time to meet Bachelor Matt James, and Bri explains why her mom never liked any of her previous boyfriends.
Plus, can men and women be “just friends”? Mike, Bryan, and Bri have a heated debate about the issue.
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5/10/2021 • 56 minutes, 52 seconds
Demi Burnett Speaks Out on Controversy with Popular Reality TV Blogger
Bachelor Nation fan favorite Demi Burnett discusses her personal experiences with Reality Steve, the TV blogger widely known for his Bachelor spoilers. Demi opens up about the hate she has received from the blogger over the years and details the power dynamic that exists between Bachelor Nation and Reality Steve.
Plus, for the first time, Demi weighs in on Reality Steve’s recent apology. Mike and Bryan also discuss the controversy and how they are supporting the women of Bachelor Nation.
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5/3/2021 • 59 minutes, 15 seconds
Exclusive: Zac Clark on Hitting Rock Bottom, Going on ‘The Bachelorette’ Sober, and Betting on Himself
In part two of Mike and Bryan’s exclusive interview with Bachelor Nation’s Zac Clark, Zac discusses what it was like at his lowest point and why he had to get punched in the face to become a humble man. Zac also opens up about his concerns with going on “The Bachelorette” sober and why he thinks it ended up giving him a competitive edge.
Plus, Zac talks about why addiction doesn’t discriminate and shares which combination of therapy, medicine, and support groups finally got him sober.
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4/26/2021 • 33 minutes, 19 seconds
Exclusive: Zac Clark Reveals How He Went Down the Dark Path of Drugs and Addiction, How He Overcame It and His Future with Tayshia
In part one of Mike and Bryan’s exclusive interview with Bachelor Nation’s Zac Clark, Zac opens up about his sheltered upbringing and discusses how he went down the dark path of drugs and addiction. Zac also reveals how he kept his drug use a secret from almost everyone in his life.
Plus, Zac tells Mike and Bryan about the last few hours he was on drugs and shares the story about reuniting with the bank teller who saved his life. Zac also discusses what it was like dating while sober on “The Bachelorette” and how his fiancée Tayshia responded to him revealing his past struggles.
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4/19/2021 • 40 minutes, 52 seconds
Dating Outside Your Race: Mike, Bryan & Bachelor Nation’s Ivan Hall Discuss
Bachelor Nation fan favorite Ivan Hall joins Mike and Bryan to discuss their experiences dating outside their race. Bryan opens up about being in an interracial relationship with wife Rachel Lindsay and what he’s learned about Black women over the course of their marriage. Mike discusses the hate he’s gotten in the past for dating women who were not Black.
Plus, Ivan talks about his upbringing and what it means being half Asian and half Black in this country. He discusses how he embraces both cultures and the ways he’s standing up for BLM and the AAPI community.
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4/12/2021 • 45 minutes, 26 seconds
Reality Star Carl Radke Discusses Addiction and Mental Health Awareness After Brother’s Tragic Death
Bravo’s “Summer House” star Carl Radke opens up about his brother’s tragic passing and how it changed the course of his own life. Carl reveals he went from self-medicating and partying four or five nights a week to now being sober and in therapy. He also explains what he learned about mental illness from his own experiences and his brother’s death.
Plus, Mike and Bryan discuss what they do for self-care, and Bryan shares why therapy has been so beneficial in his relationship with wife Rachel Lindsay. Mike and Bryan also answer fan questions, including how to tell your family you’d like to attend therapy.
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4/5/2021 • 47 minutes, 40 seconds
Money and Relationships: Mike & Bryan Dive into the Uncomfortable Topic with a Financial Expert
Should you date when you’re broke? Is sharing a bank account a good idea once you’re married? Mike and Bryan talk to financial expert Dr. Lynn Richardson, who shares pointers and suggestions for the best way to talk about money in a relationship. She reveals who really should pay for that first date and why gender roles and money are a thing of the past.
Then, Mike and Bryan share their own experiences dealing with finances in relationships. Bryan discusses the fun way he and wife Rachel Lindsay learned more about each other’s spending habits. Mike and Bryan also talk about how their cultural differences affect how they see finances and family.
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3/29/2021 • 44 minutes, 25 seconds
Does Size Matter? Mike, Bryan & Patrick Moote from ‘UnHung Hero’ Discuss
Actor/documentarian Patrick Moote joins Mike and Bryan to discuss his quest to find out whether women really care about penis size. Is it true that men who have smaller penises generally make up for it in other areas? Nothing is off limits as Patrick, Mike, and Bryan have a no-holds-barred conversation about it all.
Patrick also describes his search for penis enlargement options and what conclusions he came to along the way. Plus, Mike and Bryan discuss some of their own insecurities throughout their lives and how they overcame them.
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3/22/2021 • 44 minutes, 14 seconds
Joe Amabile Talks Dating, Vulnerability, and the Possibility of ‘Paradise’
“Click Bait” host Joe Amabile joins Mike and Bryan for an in-depth talk about men and vulnerability. Joe discusses his upbringing in Chicago and how that influenced his ability to open up in his future relationships. Plus, he reveals how being on reality TV taught him to communicate, share, and be vulnerable.
And is “Bachelor in Paradise” in Joe’s future? He discloses whether he’d be willing to head back to the beach and admits he has his eye on a few women from the last couple seasons of the show.
Plus, is crying a sign of weakness for men? Mike and Bryan open up about the times they have broken down throughout their lives.
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3/15/2021 • 49 minutes, 28 seconds
‘Bachelor’ Contestant Chelsea Vaughn Talks Double Beauty Standards and Her Time on the Show
Chelsea Vaughn, from Matt James’ season of “The Bachelor,” joins Mike and Bryan to discuss quitting her corporate day job and following her dreams of becoming a model. She opens up about the challenges she has faced in the modeling world, including her age, the color of her skin and her body size.
Then, Chelsea flips the script and asks Mike Johnson which girl from her season he finds most attractive.
Plus, Mike and Bryan answer listener questions and address the double standards between men and women – covering everything from body hair to “dad bods.”
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3/8/2021 • 48 minutes, 45 seconds
What Do Women Really Want? Mike, Bryan & Love Expert Diann Valentine Weigh In
It’s the age-old question: What do women really want? Mike and Bryan welcome love expert Diann Valentine to discuss what women are really looking for. From love languages to what happens between the sheets, they get into it all. Diann also reveals the big difference between what men and women look for in a relationship.
Then, Mike and Bryan tackle viewer questions. Bryan opens up about his home life with wife Rachel Lindsay and reveals who does the chores. And Mike discusses the importance of honesty in relationships.
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3/1/2021 • 48 minutes, 50 seconds
MTV’s Cory Wharton Weighs In on the Role of Communication in the Modern Family
Cory Wharton from MTV’s “The Real World,” “The Challenge,” and “Teen Mom” joins Mike and Bryan to discuss his unconventional family, and why communication is such a key piece in its success. Cory discusses co-parenting with his ex, Cheyenne, and the struggles they’ve had along the way while raising daughter Ryder.
Plus, Mike and Bryan open up about their different upbringings. Mike discusses how growing up in a predominantly female household shaped him into the man he is today, and Bryan talks about having three older siblings who lived overseas and the effect that had on his life.
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2/22/2021 • 48 minutes, 43 seconds
Bryan Speaks Out on Chris Harrison’s Controversial Interview with Wife Rachel Lindsay
In an emotional discussion, Mike and Bryan weigh in on the racism surrounding Bachelor Nation and how it is affecting them personally. Bryan discusses his wife Rachel Lindsay’s interview with Chris Harrison, and how he felt watching Rachel in that position.
Mike also reveals that Chris called him shortly after the “Extra” interview and shares his thoughts on their conversation.
Plus, where does Bachelor Nation go from here and how do we learn, grow, and be better? Mike and Bryan weigh in.
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2/15/2021 • 49 minutes, 3 seconds
Initiate Sex, Set Expectations, and More Ways to Maintain a Relationship and Career; NFL Star Matt Judon Joins
Mike and Bryan discuss how they maintain successful relationships while also having demanding careers. Bryan reveals how he and wife Rachel Lindsay are managing their current long-distance living situation, and what their plans are for the future. Plus, NFL star Matthew Judon joins the conversation to talk about how his wife deals with his football schedule and his long hours training.
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2/7/2021 • 42 minutes, 47 seconds
Real Life ‘Hitch’ Paul Brunson Teaches Mike How to Set ‘Realistic Standards’ for a Healthy Relationship
Professional matchmaker Paul Brunson offers Mike some advice when it comes to setting standards for the person you want to spend your life with. Paul also discusses the importance of timing in a relationship, and Bryan reveals how timing influenced his relationship with wife Rachel Lindsay.
Plus, is there a right way to break up with someone? And why is marriage in the U.S. on the decline? Paul addresses all these questions and more in this week’s podcast.
Then, Mike and Bryan answer fan questions on everything from fantasizing about another man while having sex with your husband to a possessive boyfriend who doesn’t want his girlfriend to post sexy photos on Instagram.
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2/1/2021 • 1 hour, 9 minutes, 4 seconds
‘Top Model’s’ Nigel Barker on His Secret to a Happy Relationship
Photographer and “America’s Next Top Model” judge Nigel Barker gets candid with Bryan and Mike on this week’s “Talking It Out” about everything from love to how best to pose for a photo. Despite hanging around some of the most beautiful models in the world, Nigel explains why his wife of 21 years never gets jealous.
Nigel also opens up about his beginnings as a model and what led him to photography. And, Nigel gives advice on how to pose for a photo – and it’s all in your head!
Plus, Nigel discusses his new virtual endeavor, V1VE, and why fitness should be an essential piece in all of our lives.
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1/25/2021 • 52 minutes, 48 seconds
Bachelor Matt James Talks Race, His ‘Type,’ and Why Mike Told Him to Gain 15 Lbs.
Current Bachelor Matt James sits down for a conversation with Mike and Bryan that only the three of them could have. Matt discusses his “type” and sets the record straight about dating Black women. Plus, Matt shares what his life was like before “The Bachelor,” living in a tiny NYC apartment with Tyler Cameron.
Then, Matt reveals the piece of advice Mike gave him before going on the show… which led to him gaining 15 pounds.
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1/17/2021 • 1 hour, 7 minutes, 56 seconds
Emmanuel Acho, Plus: Mike Johnson Addresses Not Being Chosen as the Bachelor
Former NFL star, sports analyst, and best-selling author Emmanuel Acho joins Mike Johnson and Bryan Abasolo for the podcast premiere of “Talking It Out with Mike and Bryan.” Emmanuel breaks down the unwritten rules of being Black in America and gives advice to Bryan on how he and Rachel can best teach their (future) biracial children.
Emmanuel also shares the most important lesson he’s learned from the great Oprah Winfrey and reveals whether he’d ever step into the role of Bachelor.
Plus, Mike Johnson shares his true feelings, once and for all, about not being chosen to become the first Black Bachelor.
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1/11/2021 • 51 minutes, 5 seconds
Introducing Talking It Out with Mike and Bryan – Premieres Jan 11th
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