Navigating the marketplace is the original choose-your-own adventure. Thrilling Tales of Modern Capitalism takes a company in the news, and looks at its history to figure out why it finds itself in its present circumstances. Host Seth Stevenson brings you stories you may not have heard about the brands that shape how you live and work. And whether they’ve succeeded or failed, these companies have been on more of an adventure than you may have imagined.
What Next TBD: Alabama’s IVF Mess
Fertility doctors and their patients trying to conceive via in vitro fertilization (IVF) were stopped in their tracks this week, as the Alabama Supreme Court declared that embryos have the same rights as people. The decision has left doctors wondering if they can be sued for carrying out standard IVF procedures, and experts worry the ruling could have ramifications for IVF around the country.
Guest: Dr. Elizabeth Constance, reproductive endocrinology and infertility specialist in Omaha, Nebraska.
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2/25/2024 • 28 minutes, 9 seconds
Slate Money: Is Capital One’s Discover Deal Doomed?
This week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck and Elizabeth Spiers come with 0% interest and no fees! They discuss what the proposed merger between Capital One and Discover would mean for the rest of us and why the government probably won’t let it happen. Also: How long will Nvidia’s chip empire last, and why there are suddenly so many car washes everywhere. In the Plus segment: The gang reveals their all-time favorite kitchen gadgets.
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1986 Discover ad
“Car Wash” by Rose Royce
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2/24/2024 • 42 minutes, 23 seconds
What Next TBD: The Coasts are Sinking
Studies have found that, in tiny increments, America’s East Coast is sinking into the ground thanks to climate change. Can a new approach to urban planning mitigate the effect?
Guest: Matt Simon, senior staff writer at Wired.
You can read Matt’s reporting here.
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2/23/2024 • 20 minutes, 11 seconds
Slate Money: I Was a Billionaire’s Right Hand
Felix Salmon sits down with Carrie Sun, whose book Private Equity: A Memoir recalls her life as the right-hand woman of a billionaire hedge fund manager. Burnt out on corporate life, Carrie wanted a low-key day job while she pursued her writing career. Instead, she found herself in a world of high-octane Wall Street hustle where profit is paramount. She and Felix discuss Wall Street culture,
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2/20/2024 • 28 minutes, 24 seconds
What Next TBD: Apple Vision Pro: The Ultimate Surveillance Device?
Apple Vision Pro goggles might be a crime against fashion but with the amount of data they can collect—both on the world around the user and on the users themselves—they have the potential to invade privacy right down to where you’re looking and for how long.
Guest: Geoffrey Fowler, Washington Post tech columnist
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2/18/2024 • 28 minutes, 54 seconds
ICYMI: The Turbulence of Air Force Taylor
Rachelle Hampton and Candice Lim catch up on the latest stories churning the Taylor Swift media machine, from her lawyers sending a cease and desist letter to a college student, to her possibly leading a groundbreaking case against AI deepfakes. Then, they break down the backlash surrounding Emily Mariko, who was criticized by her followers for selling out — and shelling out — a tote bag.
This podcast is produced by Se’era Spragley Ricks, Daisy Rosario, Candice Lim and Rachelle Hampton.
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2/17/2024 • 46 minutes, 57 seconds
Slate Money: America is Beating Everyone
This week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck and Elizabeth Spiers explain why factories, energy, stimulus money, and immigration have helped the U.S. economy succeed where its rivals struggle. Also: The failed Universal Music deal that silenced Taylor Swift music on TikTok, and why a typo by Lyft was the scourge of after-hours traders. In the Plus segment: Why is chocolate chip ice cream so hard to find?
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2/17/2024 • 49 minutes, 8 seconds
What Next TBD: Warfare Enters the A.I. Era
The war in Ukraine reordered the priorities of the country’s growing tech sector, and has become a place for foreign companies to test out new tools with less regulation or scrutiny.
Guests: Vera Bergengruen, senior correspondent at Time
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2/16/2024 • 28 minutes, 3 seconds
ICYMI: The State of Dating Apps
Candice Lim is joined by dating culture researcher Lakshmi Rengarajan and culture writer Kate Lindsay to discuss the past, present and future of dating apps. Online dating has been around since the days of dial-up. But apps like Tinder disrupted the market and changed the way we’ve dated for the past decade. Recently, there’s been several trends emerging, from Gen-Z abandoning the apps to baby boomers finding love later in life. So are we witnessing the death of dating apps or have they integrated themselves so deeply into our lives that we can’t live without them?
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2/14/2024 • 40 minutes, 20 seconds
Decoder Ring: Why Do So Many Coffee Shops Look the Same?
The eerie similarity of coffee shops all over the world was so confounding to Kyle Chayka that it led him to write the new book Filterworld: How Algorithms Are Flattening Culture. In today’s episode, Kyle’s going to walk us through the recent history of the cafe, to help us see how digital behavior is altering a physical space hundreds of years older than the internet itself, and how those changes are happening everywhere—it’s just easier to see them when they’re spelled out in latte art.
This episode was written by Willa Paskin and produced by Katie Shepherd. Decoder Ring is produced by Willa Paskin, Katie Shepherd and Evan Chung. Derek John is Executive Producer. Merritt Jacob is Senior Technical Director. Special thanks to Ben Frisch and Patrick Fort.
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2/14/2024 • 33 minutes, 59 seconds
What Next: The American Oligarch Class
How did America end up back in a Gilded Age of incredible wealth disparity, and how did a new generation of oligarchs bend society to their vision?
Guest: Tim Murphy, senior reporter for Mother Jones.
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2/14/2024 • 26 minutes, 34 seconds
What Next TBD: Breaking Up with Dating Apps
For a while, it seemed like the only place to meet potential partners was through an app—Tinder, Hinge, Bumble, etc. But as the apps are trying to monetize their matchmaking—and some users now with a whole decade of striking out under their belts—old-fashioned meet-cutes-in-bars or, say, debutante balls look more and more appealing.
Guests:
Katherine Lindsay, culture writer and cofounder of Embedded
Rachael Stein, dating-app spelunker
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2/11/2024 • 25 minutes, 36 seconds
Slate Money: Disney's Wish Upon a (Pop) Star
BREAKING NEWS: Felix Salmon paid money to watch the Taylor Swift concert movie, he reveals it in a tell-all chat with Emily Peck and Elizabeth Spiers. They discuss CEO Bob Iger’s efforts to keep Disney the fairest entertainment company in the land and why New York Community Bank’s financial straits could be a win for ordinary renters. Also, has the backlash against the SAT test been misguided? Dartmouth thinks so. In the Plus segment, the gang explains Superbowl commercial trends.
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2/10/2024 • 43 minutes, 47 seconds
What Next TBD: The NFL’s Concussion Settlement Farce
The NFL's concussion settlement was meant to provide financial support and medical help for players who developed traumatic brain injuries from the sport. So why are so many players denied the help they need?
Guest: Will Hobson, sports reporter for the Washington Post.
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2/9/2024 • 29 minutes, 34 seconds
ICYMI: Was TikTok Silent or Silenced?
Candice Lim is joined by culture critic and reporter Cyrena Touros to break down the battle between Universal Music Group and TikTok. On February 1, UMG started pulling their artists’ music from TikTok after their licensing contract expired. This meant creators weren’t able to interact with music from artists like Taylor Swift, Drake and Olivia Rodrigo. UMG claims this drastic move was necessary to ensure appropriate compensation for their artists and songwriters. But TikTok fired back, saying UMG was putting “their own greed above” the interests of UMG’s artists because TikTok is a free marketing and discovery platform for their talent. So who’s the real villain here and how will musicians and creators cope during this battle?
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2/7/2024 • 34 minutes, 57 seconds
Money Talks by Slate Money: You Should Buy Art
In this Money Talks, Bianca Bosker, author of “Get the Picture,” chats with Felix Salmon about her adventures going undercover in the fine art world. Bianca worked as a museum security guard and gallery assistant, among other gigs, and got an inside peak at the smoke and mirrors of creating, collecting, and curating.
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2/6/2024 • 48 minutes, 31 seconds
What Next TBD: Streaming Is Cable Now
The number of TV streaming services is going up—and so is the cost and so are the number of ads. Cordcutters are finding themselves back to cable prices and inconveniences. And these changes don’t just impact the TV viewing experience - they impact the types of shows that get made in the first place.
Guest: Alex Cranz, managing editor at the Verge.
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2/4/2024 • 30 minutes, 39 seconds
Slate Money: Why Musk Lost $56 Billion
This week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers discuss why a Delaware judge blocked Tesla’s $55 billion compensation package for Elon Musk and what it means for his Mars dreams. Also: the meteoric rise and catastrophic fall of DNA testing service 23andMe, and Felix gives us a glimpse into the world of Sotheby’s and mega-high-end art auctions. In the Plus segment: News platform The Messenger had $50 million to spend. Why did it fold in less than a year?
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2/3/2024 • 43 minutes, 57 seconds
What Next TBD: The Taylor Swift Deepfake Saga
For all the promise of the technology, one use-case for artificial intelligence reared its ugly head last week: non-consensual pornographic images. As millions of users saw abusive A.I. generated images of Taylor Swift proliferate across X, the pitfalls of this technology became clear.
Guest: Emanuel Maiberg, journalist and co-founder of 404 Media
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2/2/2024 • 26 minutes, 41 seconds
Money Talks: Is Pop Finance Rubbish?
In an off-week bonus episode of Money Talks, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers chat with Yale finance professor James Choi, who has cross-referenced the advice of more than 50 pop finance books with actual economic theory. How much should you save in your 20s and 30s? Should you put your money in a savings account or the stock market? Is it bad to change your retirement plan? James Choi spills the finance tea!
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1/30/2024 • 40 minutes, 21 seconds
What Next TBD: Why Is Everybody Sick?
Are we still paying off our pandemic-induced “immunity debt,” or is there another reason that it feels like we’re all sniffling and coughing and just feeling sick?
Guest: Keren Landman, senior health reporter at Vox
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1/28/2024 • 23 minutes, 17 seconds
Slate Money: The Rent is Still Too Damned High
This week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers discuss record-breaking rents that see most renters forking over more than 30% of their dough. Also: Infant apparel brand Kyte Baby’s maternity leave scandal, and why Josh wine is such a hit. In a British Slate Plus segment: An American professor says to put salt in our tea; Felix cries foul and explains how to make a proper English cuppa.
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1/27/2024 • 52 minutes, 5 seconds
What Next TBD: Are You Ready for the A.I. Election?
In the days leading up to the New Hampshire primary, voters received a robocall purportedly from Joe Biden. Authorities have now determined the call was likely A.I.-generated.
In the era of A.I., how can voters tell what’s real and what’s not? And will the general election be thrown into chaos by artificial intelligence-created disinformation?
Guest: Makena Kelly, senior writer at Wired covering politics and technology
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1/26/2024 • 26 minutes, 1 second
Money Talks: Live in an Empty Office
For this edition of Money Talks, Grace Rauh, director of the 5BORO Institute, makes the case for office-to-residential conversion. The pandemic pushed people out of offices, and they don’t want to come back. Meanwhile, demand for affordable, urban housing is on the rise. Can we solve both problems at once? Grace and Felix Salmon discuss.
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1/23/2024 • 41 minutes, 35 seconds
What Next TBD: Have Algorithms Ruined Our Culture?
How much of our lives—our tastes, preferences and choices—have been fed to us through an interlocking, impersonal network of algorithms?
Guest: Kyle Chayka, staff writer at the New Yorker and author of Filterworld: How Algorithms Flattened Culture.
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1/21/2024 • 36 minutes, 5 seconds
Slate Money: Antitrust, Boomer Style
This week, Axios tech and policy reporter Ashley Gold joins Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spears to discuss the scuttled Spirit/Jet Blue merger and the ambitious anti-trust efforts of Trade Commission chair Lina Kahn. Also: how hybrid work won the office wars and why conflict in the Middle East isn’t really affecting oil prices. In the Slate Plus segment: Will a squabble with Epic Games crack Apple’s stranglehold on the app market?
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1/20/2024 • 43 minutes, 12 seconds
What Next TBD: The Great British Library Hack
When a cyberattack knocked the British Library out of commission in October of last year, a nation's researchers, scholars, students, and bookworms were left high and dry. Months later, the library is starting to come back online in limited capacity, but the attack has laid bare just how fragile our digital systems are.
Guest: Sam Knight, staff writer at the New Yorker
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1/19/2024 • 27 minutes, 33 seconds
What Next TBD: Is Your Car Tracking You?
Covered in cameras, full of microphones, and always eager to use location data, our vehicles are “smartphones on wheels”—and privacy nightmares.
Guest: Kashmir Hill, technology and privacy reporter for the New York Times.
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1/14/2024 • 22 minutes, 49 seconds
Slate Money: Apple Maps is Finally Good
Last week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spears asked you to weigh in on your preferred map app: Reigning champ Google, or late bloomer Apple? This week, they reveal your answers and discuss the merits of each. Also: Boeing’s airplane malfunctions, and what Bitcoin’s ETF approval means for crypto. In the Plus segment: Untangling the plagiarism drama of billionaire Bill Ackman and his wife Neri Oxman.
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1/13/2024 • 48 minutes, 8 seconds
What Next TBD: Boeing’s Max Mess
Shortly after take off from Portland, OR, the plug exit on a Boeing 737 Max 9 jet blew out – causing an uncontrolled decompression of the plane. Now, accident investigators are hard at work, trying to determine what happened in what's the latest catastrophe for the respected commercial airplane provider.
Guest: Jon Ostrower, Editor-in-chief of The Air Current
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1/12/2024 • 35 minutes, 2 seconds
ICYMI: The Nine-Month Cruise Heard Round the World
Candice Lim is joined by Wailin Wong, co-host of NPR’s The Indicator from Planet Money. They dissect the drama and mayhem surrounding Royal Caribbean’s Ultimate World Cruise — a nine-month trip that TikTokkers on land and sea that we can’t stop talking about. The cruise is scheduled to visit more than 60 countries over 274 nights, but since it left Miami in December, passengers have been uploading room tours, buffet reviews and excursion vlogs daily — if not, hourly — so land-dwellers can keep up with this reality show on water.
This podcast is produced by Se’era Spragley Ricks, Daisy Rosario, Candice Lim and Rachelle Hampton.
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1/10/2024 • 46 minutes, 44 seconds
Well, Now: A Toast to Dry January
On the first episode of Well, Now – Slate’s new podcast on health and wellness – hosts Dr. Kavita Patel and Registered Dietitian Nutritionist Maya Feller tackle resolutions.
A popular one? Sobriety. Or at least Dry January.
With more people becoming “sober curious” Kavita and Maya visit a sober speakeasy in Brooklyn, hosted by the zero-proof cocktail maker Curious Elixirs.
They sit down with the company’s founder and CEO JW Wiseman over some drinks and talk about the rise of the “sober curious” movement.
Podcast production by Vic Whitley-Berry with help from Kevin Bendis. Editorial oversight by Alicia Montgomery.
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1/10/2024 • 31 minutes, 55 seconds
Money Talks by Slate Money: Glossier’s Glamorous Girl Boss
In our inaugural edition of Money Talks, Felix Salmon sits down with veteran fashion writer Marisa Meltzer, author of Glossy: Ambition, Beauty, and the Inside Story of Emily Weiss's Glossier. Marisa discusses the real-life woman behind Glossier’s iconic CEO, the feminism of the beauty industry, and why French is the language of glamour.
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1/9/2024 • 39 minutes, 2 seconds
What Next TBD: Tesla's Cybertruck Problem
What the Cybertruck says about safety, regulation, and the degree to which Tesla is beholden to the whims of Elon Musk.
Guest: Edward Niedermeyer, author of Ludicrous: The Unvarnished Story of Tesla Motors
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1/7/2024 • 24 minutes, 51 seconds
Slate Money: Is Billionaire Charity a Sham?
This week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spears debate the value of massive, tax-deductible donations that spend years in administrative limbo. Also: Biden is cranking up production in American factories, and private equity may be making healthcare sick. In the Plus segment: Should we be afraid of Trump in 2024? (Spoiler: Yes.)
We’re also excited to announce Money Talks, a new interview series from Slate Money. Every second Tuesday, Felix or Emily will sit down for one-on-one chats with authors, analysts, investors, entrepreneurs, and other movers and shakers of the business world. Tune in this Tuesday, January 9 for Felix’s conversation with Maris Meltzer, author of Glossy: Ambition, Beauty, and the Inside Story of Emily Weiss's Glossier.
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1/6/2024 • 48 minutes, 4 seconds
ICYMI: The Internet History of Tate McRae
Candice Lim is joined by culture journalist Cat Sposato to trace the rise of this year’s most promising pop act, Tate McRae. McRae gained national attention as a 12-year-old dancer on So You Think You Can Dance. While pursuing a legitimate dance career, she posted an original song on YouTube that led RCA Records to bet on her as the next big pop star. After two albums, certain people on the internet still accuse McRae of being an industry plant, but her path has been oddly traditional and well-documented online. So was McRae an industry plant or an inevitable star?
This podcast is produced by Se’era Spragley Ricks, Daisy Rosario, Candice Lim and Rachelle Hampton.
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1/6/2024 • 36 minutes, 24 seconds
What Next TBD: Why the New York Times Sued OpenAI
If A.I. and chatbots are the next wave of innovation, then the New York Times and other media organizations are determined to get paid this time.
Guest: Megan Morrone, technology editor for the Axios AI+ newsletter
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1/5/2024 • 28 minutes, 17 seconds
A Word: A Multiverse of Problems
Comic book films have dominated the box office for a generation, and gave many diverse actors and artists an opportunity to shine. But the genre struggled during 2023, and fans are worried that the golden age has ended for those movies and the culture that inspired them. On today’s episode of A Word, Jason Johnson is joined by journalist David Betancourt, who covered comic book movies and culture for The Washington Post for more than a decade. They talk about why superhero films may be going through a rough patch, and whether they can rebound.
Guest: Journalist David Betancourt, author of The Avengers Assembled: The Origin Story of Earth’s Mightiest Heroes
Podcast production by Kristie Taiwo-Makanjuola
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1/5/2024 • 41 minutes, 11 seconds
ICYMI: Should We Quit Romance Novels?
Candice Lim is joined by Slate senior editor Rebecca Onion to talk about their love of romance novels. The romance genre grew rapidly this past year, becoming the fastest-growing category of fiction and generating over $1.4 billion in sales revenue. Partly thanks to Goodreads and BookTok, romance novels are getting into the hands of younger, more outspoken and vocal readers. But recent scandals, including last year’s Hockey BookTok disaster, question the limits of literary thirsting and ask whether we can ever quit romance.
This podcast is produced by Se’era Spragley Ricks, Daisy Rosario, Candice Lim and Rachelle Hampton.
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1/3/2024 • 31 minutes, 40 seconds
What Next TBD: Who’s Afraid of A.I.? | 2023 In Review
While the What Next: TBD team spends some time with their families during the holidays, we revisit some of 2023’s biggest, strangest, and best stories. Regularly scheduled programming resumes in January.
Artificial intelligence—as it already exists today—is drawing from huge troves of surveillance data and is rife with the biases built into the algorithm, in service of the huge corporations that develop and maintain the systems. The fight for the future doesn’t look like war with Skynet; it’s happening right now on the lines of the Writer’s Guild strike.
Guests:
Meredith Whittaker, president of the Signal Foundation, co-founder of the AI Now Institute at NYU
Originally aired May 12th, 2023
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12/31/2023 • 33 minutes, 52 seconds
Slate Money: America’s Boring Superweapon
This week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers chat with Henry Farrell, author of Underground Empire: How America Weaponized the World Economy. Henry explains how American hegemony shifted from guns and tanks to SWIFT codes and internet policies. Can China or Russia beat it at its own game?
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12/30/2023 • 52 minutes, 57 seconds
What Next TBD: America’s Killer Car Problem | 2023 In Review
While the What Next: TBD team spends some time with their families during the holidays, we revisit some of 2023’s biggest, strangest, and best stories. Regularly scheduled programming resumes in January.
Pedestrian deaths in America have been rising for the last decade, while dropping in Europe and Japan. What makes the U.S. so dangerous for pedestrians?
Guest: Jessie Singer, author of There Are No Accidents: The Deadly Rise of Injury and Disaster―Who Profits and Who Pays the Price.
Originally aired July 16th, 2023.
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12/29/2023 • 36 minutes, 36 seconds
What Next TBD: Stephen King Is Just as Confused About Blue Checks as You Are | 2023 In Review
While the What Next: TBD team spends some time with their families during the holidays, we revisit some of 2023’s biggest, strangest, and best stories. Regularly scheduled programming resumes in January.
Twitter’s “blue check” verification went from something you applied for, to something you could pay for, to something you had to pay for…to something that many celebrities wouldn’t even accept for free. Master of horror Stephen King told us he wouldn’t pay for a blue check, but he’s not going to fight it either—he just doesn’t really understand what’s going on. Does anyone at Twitter understand?
Guests:
Alex Heath, deputy editor of The Verge
Jon Favreau, co-founder of Crooked Media, speechwriter for President Barack Obama
Stephen King, author
Originally aired April 28th, 2023.
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12/24/2023 • 34 minutes, 13 seconds
Slate Money: Our Surprisingly Great Year
This week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and guest host Edmund Lee, media reporter for the New York Times, recap the 2023 economic year, which saw strong growth, reduced inflation, and soaring stocks. Also: What a potential Warner Bros.-Paramount merger means for the entertainment business, and why a growing number of pedestrians are being killed by cars at night. In the Plus segment: Can the news industry profit from ChatGPT?
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12/23/2023 • 49 minutes, 22 seconds
What Next TBD: Can Hybrid Cars Save Us?
Without infrastructure to support all-electric vehicles, consumers have increasingly embraced the hybrid. The lower emissions are good—but are they slowing down our transition into an electric future?
Guest: Patrick George, editor-in-chief of InsideEVs.com, contributor to The Atlantic and The Verge.
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12/22/2023 • 27 minutes, 7 seconds
Slate Money Goes to the Movies: This Is Spinal Tap
In ancient times, hundreds of years before the dawn of history, director Rob Reiner gave the world a band named Spinal Tap. No one knows who they were or what they were doing … except for legendary designer Paula Scher, the mind behind 40 years of music artwork and branding. She chats with Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers about the true stories that inspired the classic mockumentary.
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12/18/2023 • 39 minutes, 49 seconds
What Next: Where Do Returned Gifts Go?
“Easy returns” are an essential part of the online shopping experience. But 20-30 percent of online purchases get sent “back,” which is to say, they then enter the labyrinth of third-party return facilities, destined for re-evaluation, restocking—or possibly, the garbage.
Guest: Amanda Mull, staff writer at The Atlantic.
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12/18/2023 • 24 minutes, 11 seconds
What Next TBD: The Case Against CLEAR
Going through airport security is a legal requirement. Is it fair for a private company to interject itself in that process—and cut to the front of the line?
Guest: David Zipper, visiting Fellow at Harvard Kennedy School, focused on mobility, cities and technology.
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12/17/2023 • 25 minutes, 26 seconds
Slate Money: Is Starbucks Still a Union Buster?
This week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers speculate on the Federal Reserve’s surprising new interest rates, whether Starbucks’ store closings are anti-union, and the financial machinations of Dodgers pitcher Shohei Ohtani. In the Plus segment, Felix and Emily hash it out over the usefulness of the UN’s climate change conference.
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12/16/2023 • 41 minutes, 54 seconds
What Next TBD: Shein’s Newest Offering? An IPO
Fast-fashion titan Shein is preparing for its initial public offering, even as questions of sustainability and labor practices linger.
Guest: Jordyn Holman, business reporter covering the retail industry and consumerism for The New York Times
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12/15/2023 • 27 minutes, 38 seconds
Slate Money Travel: Hotels That Don’t Rip You Off
This week, Pavia Rosati, founder of travel platform Fathom, chats with Felix Salmon and the hotel industry in the post-COVD era. They discuss why prices are so unpredictable, those exorbitant fees for coffee and yoga classes, and how the industry is recovering from a historic crash.
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12/11/2023 • 51 minutes, 3 seconds
What Next TBD: Musk's War on Free Speech
Elon Musk is suing Media Matters for reporting that advertisers’ content was showing up right next to posts from newly reinstated Nazis on X, something X’s CEO said was impossible. Media Matters is based in D.C, and X is headquartered in California - so why did Musk choose to file the suit in Texas?
Guest: Liz Dye, columnist at Above the Law, Substacks as Law and Chaos Pod, co-hosts the podcast Opening Arguments.
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12/10/2023 • 31 minutes, 40 seconds
Amicus: Billionaires Had a Bad Week at the Supreme Court
When Moore v United States landed on the Supreme Court docket, it threatened to take a big swing at any future wealth tax and maybe cut the legs out from under the government’s ability to collect a lot of other tax. But as arguments unfolded Tuesday at One, First Street, it became clear that some of the Justices had studied up on the tax code and were cooling on blowing a big hole in it.
To understand why Moore made it all the way up to SCOTUS in the first place, and why the facts don’t match claims from the plaintiffs, Dahlia Lithwick is joined by law professor and author of Big Dirty Money, Professor Jennifer Taub. Together they talk about the billions behind the case, the tax law, and the arguments inside the chamber.
Next, Dahlia is joined by Slate’s Mark Stern, who covered Moore for the magazine, to discuss Justice Alito's non-recusal from the case, his BFF David Rivkin Jr., and why the plaintiffs Mr and Mrs Moore bear a striking resemblance to some other, recent, fabled SCOTUS plaintiffs.
In this week’s Amicus Plus segment, Mark Stern hangs on to talk about the Title VII case this week that didn’t go *that badly*, and why that’s still not good, and to explain why Justice Elena Kagan has had it up to here with false first principles.
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12/9/2023 • 48 minutes, 39 seconds
Slate Money: The War on Self-Checkouts
This week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers discuss their Christmas shopping strategies and whether it’s time for self-checkouts to check out. Also: What big airline mergers mean for those of us in economy class, and whether the podcast bubble has finally burst. In the Plus segment: Do we really need to have meetings?
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12/9/2023 • 51 minutes, 21 seconds
What Next TBD: Spotify Unwrapped
Is Spotify’s 2023—ending with layoffs and cancelling critically acclaimed original podcasts—a sign of trouble at the streaming giant, or an adjustment to expectations that’s setting them up for a brighter future?
Guest: Ashley Carman, Bloomberg reporter who covers Spotfiy
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12/8/2023 • 27 minutes, 7 seconds
Slate Money Goes to the Movies: Jerry Maguire
This week, sports journalist Mina Kimes joins the huddle with Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers to discuss the 90s football rom-com Jerry Maguire. Mina explains how real-world sports agents do business, and the squad debates whether a young Tom Cruise can keep this somewhat poorly-aged classic on the varsity string.
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Podcast production by Patrick Fort and Jared Downing.
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12/4/2023 • 47 minutes, 42 seconds
What Next: Is Amazon Too Big To Regulate?
Jeff Bezos said Amazon will be “Earth’s safest place to work.” But state and federal investigators are looking into the online retailer’s rates of on-the-job injuries. Is working in an Amazon warehouse inherently unsafe, or is the number of accidents unavoidable for the US’s second largest employer, as the company contends? Given OSHA’s limited powers, does the government have any options other than taking their word for it?
Guest: Caroline O'Donovan, Washington Post reporter covering Amazon
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12/4/2023 • 25 minutes, 27 seconds
What Next TBD: They See You When You’re Shopping
Though navigating the internet involves spraying your data pretty indiscriminately, you actually have more control over it than you think—it’s just a pain to rein it in.
Guest: Geoffrey Fowler, Washington Post tech columnist.
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12/3/2023 • 31 minutes, 33 seconds
Slate Money: This Year, Give Cash
Felix Salmon, Emily Peck and Elizabeth Spiers speak with Rory Stewart of GiveDirectly and the author of “How Not to Be a Politician”. They discuss the faults of many approaches to philanthropy, and why giving cash to those in need may be the most effective way to help.
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12/2/2023 • 47 minutes, 45 seconds
ICYMI: Buying A Car on YouTube
On today’s episode, Candice Lim is joined by NPR producer J.C. Howard to walk through his personal experience of buying a car. The heyday of Toyotathon and Happy Honda Days are being replaced by car reviewers who have become influencers (and dealers) for major brands. From CarTok to CarTube, vloggers like EverydayChris and Gjeebs are not only upending the dealership model, but also creating parasocial relationships between cars and their consumers.
This podcast is produced by Se’era Spragley Ricks, Daisy Rosario, Candice Lim and Rachelle Hampton.
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12/2/2023 • 36 minutes, 52 seconds
ICYMI: Buying A Car on YouTube
On today’s episode, Candice Lim is joined by NPR producer J.C. Howard to walk through his personal experience of buying a car. The heyday of Toyotathon and Happy Honda Days are being replaced by car reviewers who have become influencers (and dealers) for major brands. From CarTok to CarTube, vloggers like EverydayChris and Gjeebs are not only upending the dealership model, but also creating parasocial relationships between cars and their consumers.
This podcast is produced by Se’era Spragley Ricks, Daisy Rosario, Candice Lim and Rachelle Hampton.
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12/2/2023 • 36 minutes, 52 seconds
What Next TBD: A Moral War for A.I.
Artificial intelligence seems predestined to become a bigger part of our lives. To what extent is the A.I. push being led by Sam Altman and the OpenAI team a cause for concern?
Guest: Karen Hao, journalist, data scientist and contributing writer for the Atlantic.
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12/1/2023 • 34 minutes, 29 seconds
Slate Money: Travel | Maybe We Should Walk
In this episode of Slate Money Travel, Felix Salmon speaks with Craig Mod about why he loves to walk on vacation. Check out Craig Mod’s latest book, “Things Become Other Things”.
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11/27/2023 • 31 minutes, 28 seconds
Slate Money: The Big Crazy at OpenAI
This week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers discuss Sam Altman’s triumphant return to OpenAI and ponder the future of the artificial intelligence industry. They also discuss the legal woes of crypto exchange Binance and its CEO Changpeng Zhao. Finally: the economic policies of Argentina’s president-elect Javier Milei.
In the Plus segment: Former Treasury Secretary Larry Summers joins OpenAI’s board of directors
Podcast production by Jared Downing.
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11/25/2023 • 52 minutes, 9 seconds
What Next TBD: Where Scams Are Born
An app for open money laundering, a corridor of massive casinos in the middle of nowhere, and the global scamdemic.
Guest: Cezary Podkul, reporter for Propublica
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11/24/2023 • 29 minutes, 27 seconds
What Next TBD: Inside OpenAI's Implosion
OpenAI was the hottest startup in Silicon Valley off the success of ChatGPT. Then, the board fired Sam Altman.
Guest: Mike Isaac, technology reporter at the New York Times.
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11/21/2023 • 31 minutes, 6 seconds
Slate Money: Movies | Dumb Money
In the first episode of Slate Money Goes to the Movies, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck and Elizabeth Spiers talk with Joe Nocera, author of “The Big Fail” about Dumb Money. Can you make a good movie about something that happened two years ago? What’s it like to watch the COVID pandemic on the big screen? Who made money in the GameStop craze?
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11/20/2023 • 48 minutes, 30 seconds
What Next TBD: Bedbugs Are Back, Baby!
The bedbug break-out during Paris fashion week this fall was obviously horrifying, but the bad news doesn’t stop there. Bedbugs are on the rise—and on the move.
Guest: Benji Jones, senior environmental reporter at Vox.
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11/19/2023 • 25 minutes, 59 seconds
Slate Money: How Salt Built America
This week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers chat with Ed Conway, economics and data editor of Sky News, whose new book “Material World” tells how a handful of everyday resources built civilization — and remain incredibly important today. Also: the astounding secrets of car paint…and why new cars look like mud.
Podcast production by Patrick Fort and Jared Downing.
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11/18/2023 • 1 hour, 2 minutes, 43 seconds
What Next TBD: How Deepfake Porn Infected a School
Girls at a New Jersey high school were early victims of a novel and growing problem: their images were taken from social media without consent to create “deep-fake pornography.”
Guest: Julie Jargon, Wall Street Journal family and tech columnist.
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11/17/2023 • 24 minutes, 12 seconds
The Waves: The Bravo Cinematic Universe
On this week’s episode of The Waves, we’re digging into the Bravo network. From Below Deck to Selling Sunset to Vanderpump Rules, the Bravo TV network is a reality television behemoth that has made millions on the backs of its female cast members. But is it actually good for women? ICYMI founding host Rachelle Hampton and culture writer Shamira Ibrahim discuss the current Bravo era, how much of Bravo belongs to famous producer Andy Cohen, why cast members can’t rely on a reunion to tell their stories, and whether the cast members of shows like the Real Housewives really have agency.
In Slate Plus: Let’s talk Selling Sunset.
If you liked this episode, check out: How to Be a Woman in Music
Podcast production by Cheyna Roth with editorial oversight by Daisy Rosario and Alicia Montgomery.
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11/16/2023 • 39 minutes, 40 seconds
Slate Money: Travel | Jet-setting Like A Journalist
In the first episode of Slate Money’s Travel series, Felix Salmon talks with The New York Times’ Lydia Polgreen about her time as a foreign correspondent and big-time business exec. What was it like to carry $10,000 in cash? And how buttery is the leather on a private jet?
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11/13/2023 • 33 minutes, 18 seconds
What Next TBD: Will A.I. Take My Job?
Employees at Reviewed were surprised when they saw mysterious bylines behind poorly worded articles on the site. But information on their new contributors was hard to find—were they people at all, or was this the first clumsy incursion of A.I. into their newsroom?
Guest: Will Sommer, Washington Post media reporter
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11/12/2023 • 21 minutes, 24 seconds
Slate Money: The Bully of Bridgewater
This week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers are joined by Rob Copeland of The New York Times to discuss his new book The Fund: Ray Dalio, Bridgewater Associates, and the Unraveling of a Wall Street Legend, which examines the vast difference between Ray Dalio’s public persona and Bridgewater’s private reality. Then, Felix, Emily and Elizabeth cover the end of the SAG-AFTRA strike, and WeWork’s bankruptcy.
In the Plus segment: More with Rob Copeland!
Podcast production by Jessamine Molli.
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11/11/2023 • 47 minutes, 25 seconds
What Next TBD: Tesla vs. the Swedes
In late October, Tesla mechanics in Sweden began to strike after the company refused to sign a collective agreement. This week, the country's other major unions joined in the fight as well.
Can Sweden’s robust labor culture force Tesla to make concessions?
Guest: Melissa Eddy, Berlin correspondent for the New York Times.
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In this episode, Alison Green (author of Ask a Manager) joins Prudie (Jenée Desmond-Harris) to answer letters about workplace dilemmas: what to do when you can’t stop crying at the office, whether it makes sense to share an autism diagnosis with your team, and PDA with a colleague.
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11/10/2023 • 39 minutes, 39 seconds
Hear Me Out: Nerds are a Menace to Society
On today’s episode of Hear Me Out… lovable underdogs?
For a long time, we’ve been sold — and we’ve bought — the idea of the nerd hero; usually a man, usually brilliant, and usually a social outcast who, inevitably, gets the girl. That was the happy ending.
But now, we’re surrounded by powerful, self-styled nerds who have it all and still want more. And, to some, it’s increasingly hard to root for these guys.
Ian Bogost, a writer and video game designer, joins us.
If you have thoughts you want to share, or an idea for a topic we should tackle, you can email the show: hearmeout@slate.com
Podcast production by Maura Currie
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11/7/2023 • 42 minutes, 15 seconds
Slate Money: Movies | The Insider
The Slate Money crew is joined by a familiar voice in Jordan Weissmann to discuss “The Insider”. They talk about the many conflicts of interest, how to make journalism look interesting, and the problem with Michael Mann movies.
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11/6/2023 • 52 minutes, 31 seconds
Slate Money: The Crypto Crimes of Sam Bankman-Fried
Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers tackle the verdict in the Sam Bankman-Fried trial and a lawsuit against realtors. They also discuss the UAW contract negotiations and how it will affect car manufacturers in the rest of the United States.
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11/4/2023 • 1 hour, 20 seconds
What Next TBD: Sam Bankman-Fraud
Sam Bankman-Fried was found guilty on seven charges of wire fraud, conspiracy and money laundering and is facing a 110-year sentence.
Cryptocurrency, itself, has lost an ambassador, a lot of value, and quite a bit of credibility.
Guest: Nitish Pahwa, associate business and tech writer covering the trial for Slate.
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11/4/2023 • 30 minutes, 40 seconds
What Next TBD: Biden Goes After AI
Biden’s executive order on A.I. indicates his administration is taking it seriously. Does it go far enough?
Guest: Cecilia Kang, covering technology and policy for the New York Times.
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11/3/2023 • 31 minutes, 53 seconds
How To!: Hit “Reset” on Your Career
Our listener Abdullah has reached a plateau. A mid-career manager at a large electronics engineering corporation, he feels intellectually unstimulated. Even though Abdullah has a stable job with seniority, he dreams of going back to school, and pursuing his true passion: economics. But with a family to support, should Abdullah make a risky leap? On this episode of How To!, host Carvell Wallace is joined by Freakonomics co-author and University of Chicago economist Steven Levitt. Well-known for out-of-the-box thinking, Levitt shares surprising tips (including a simple coin flip strategy) that can help anyone on the edge of a huge decision.
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10/31/2023 • 39 minutes, 21 seconds
ICYMI: How DJ Envy Got Got
On today’s episode, Rachelle Hampton and Candice Lim walk through DJ Envy’s latest legal troubles, which include seminars, flipping houses and a Ponzi-like scheme. Then, they’re joined by legal affairs reporter Meghann Cuniff, whose extensive coverage of the Tory Lanez trial crowned her the Batman of Black Twitter. Cuniff talks about her first internet memory, how she ended up covering the Lanez trial and how the DJ Envy allegations may play out.
This podcast is produced by Se’era Spragley Ricks, Daisy Rosario, Candice Lim and Rachelle Hampton.
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10/28/2023 • 44 minutes, 43 seconds
Slate Money: Why Dimes Shouldn’t Exist
Felix Salmon, Elizabeth Spiers and Emily Peck talk about the latest GDP numbers and why people still feel bad about the economy. They also break down two big fossil fuel mergers, and Felix explains why dimes shouldn’t exist.
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10/28/2023 • 49 minutes, 29 seconds
What Next TBD: SBF Takes the Stand
The man at the center of it all takes the stand in his own defense—but what’s left to say?
Guest: Nitish Pahwa, associate business and tech writer covering the trial for Slate.
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10/28/2023 • 25 minutes, 19 seconds
What Next TBD: Self-Driving Cars Crash Into Reality
In August, California regulators voted to allow self-driving car companies like Cruise and Waymo to expand their operations and start offering robotaxi services. After a litany of questionable behaviors ranging from the annoying to terrifying, the California DMV has suspended Cruise’s permits, effective immediately.
Is this just a temporary setback, or is the driverless future further off than it looked just a few months ago?
Guest: David Zipper, visiting fellow at the Harvard Kennedy School
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10/27/2023 • 29 minutes, 21 seconds
Slate Money | Movies: BlackBerry
In this episode of the Movies series, the Slate Money gang talks with BNN Bloomberg’s Amanda Lang about “BlackBerry”. Are there really vampires in Waterloo, Ontario? Why are all movie business guys just people who yell?
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10/23/2023 • 39 minutes, 50 seconds
A Co-Worker I Don't Like Wants to Be My Friend. Help!
In this episode, Roxane Gay (best-selling author of Bad Feminist and Opinions) joins Prudie (Jenée Desmond-Harris) to answer letters from readers about how to decline a colleague’s invitation to dinner, when it’s okay to ghost a friend for good reasons, and whether it’s possible to say positive about love when you’re burned out on dating apps.
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Podcast production by Se’era Spragley Ricks and Daisy Rosario, with help from Maura Currie.
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10/22/2023 • 39 minutes, 37 seconds
Slate Money: The Cable Sports Apocalypse
This week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers are joined by Sara Fischer, senior media reporter at Axios, to break down recent media deals with sports leagues, and why cord-cutters are going old school and buying TV antennas. They also discuss Marc Andreessen’s unhinged tech manifesto
In the Plus segment: The recent survey of consumer finances.
Podcast production by Jessamine Molli.
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10/21/2023 • 58 minutes, 15 seconds
What Next TBD: Microsoft’s Activision Blizzard Takeover
Since Microsoft announced its bid to buy Activision Blizzard last year, regulators around the world sounded the alarm that the merger would suppress competition in the industry.
Now that the deal has officially gone through, should gamers be worried?
Guest: Jason Schreier, covering the video game industry for Bloomberg
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10/21/2023 • 27 minutes, 28 seconds
Political Gabfest Reads: How to Survive Working for Amazon
David Plotz talks with author and 12-year Amazon senior employee, Kristi Coulter about her new memoir, Exit Interview: The Life and Death of My Ambitious Career. They discuss the good, the bad, and the confusing parts of Coulter’s career at Amazon, starting in 2006. They talk about the culture of Amazon, the frustrating gender dynamics, and why she was constantly “a year away” from a promotion.
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10/21/2023 • 31 minutes, 4 seconds
What Next TBD: Inside Hamas' Social Media Strategy
Since war broke out, Hamas has been efficient in getting its message out on social media - both in providing crucial information to refugees fleeing the area, and in waging psychological warfare. How can platforms meet the need for open lines of communication without spreading propaganda?
Guest: Sheera Frenkel, covering tech for the New York Times
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10/20/2023 • 27 minutes, 42 seconds
How To!: Build Trust With Co-Workers
The beginning of the school year is a gauntlet for Andrea, who coaches teachers for a living. She needs to get to know the 52 educators she’ll work with in the coming months. All of them are new faces to her. Which means she’s starting from scratch. Time is tight, so Andrea is wondering how to make every interaction count. On this episode of How To!, co-host Courtney Martin brings in Marlon Styles, who has been in Andrea’s shoes. As an educator and motivational speaker, Marlon is a pro at making connections. His wisdom will resonate with anyone who is looking to build trust, work together on goals, and connect in a more meaningful way with your colleagues.
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10/17/2023 • 35 minutes, 53 seconds
What Next TBD: The $30,000 Zelle Scam
Zelle has exploded in popularity as a fast, convenient way to send and receive money. But the story of a couple who was scammed out of a pool shows there are problems with safety on the platform.
Guest: Devin Friedman, journalist and senior correspondent for GQ magazine.
You can read Devin’s piece here.
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10/14/2023 • 25 minutes, 47 seconds
ICYMI: Live, Laugh, LinkedIn
On today’s episode, Rachelle Hampton and Candice Lim dive into the decades-long transformation of LinkedIn from a website for digital resumes to a social networking platform whose devotees have earned the name LinkedIn Lunatics. Founded in 2003 and sold to Microsoft for $26 billion in 2018, LinkedIn has become an inescapable feature of the job hunt. But while the site is ostensibly founded on professionalism, in recent years its fomented its own particular and peculiar brand of terminal onlineness.
This podcast is produced by Se’era Spragley Ricks, Daisy Rosario, Candice Lim and Rachelle Hampton.
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10/14/2023 • 47 minutes, 13 seconds
Slate Money: SBF (Sweaters, Birkenstock, FTX)
Felix Salmon, Elizabeth Spiers and Emily Peck talk about the latest in the Sam Bankman-Fried trial. They also discuss the (maybe bad???) Birkenstock IPO, and why your sweaters are getting worse.
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10/14/2023 • 55 minutes, 55 seconds
What Next TBD: The Israel-Hamas War Instantly Broke X
When the Arab Spring was unfolding, Twitter was hailed as a way for on-the-ground reporting to reach the public. But when fighting between Hamas and Israel broke out over the weekend, X became flooded with misinformation.
Guest: Casey Newton, founder and editor of the technology newsletter Platformer.
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10/13/2023 • 33 minutes, 28 seconds
Slate Money | Movies: Barbie
In this episode of the Movies series, the gang talks with Slate’s Cheyna Roth about Barbie. Is Barbie an anti-capitalist movie? Does Ryan Gosling steal too much of the show? And what message does Barbie’s success send to Hollywood?
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10/9/2023 • 40 minutes, 18 seconds
Slate Money: Is Ozempic Eating Into Snack Profits?
This week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers talk about how Ozempic affects food buying habits, the rise in mortgage and interest rates, and the decrease in stock buybacks.
In the Plus segment: The correlation between life expectancy and having a college degree.
Podcast production by Jessamine Molli.
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10/7/2023 • 37 minutes, 40 seconds
What Next TBD: The Man Who Turned You Into Data
Hank Asher was a lot of things: a Florida condo maven, a drug runner, a DEA informant—and a tech visionary who created the mixed blessing of turning everyone’s online activity into an unshakable shadow profile.
Guest: McKenzie Funk, reporter for Pro Publica and the author of The Hank Show
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10/7/2023 • 27 minutes, 11 seconds
What Next TBD: Sam Bankman-Fried—and Crypto—on Trial
As the trial begins, SBF is making the case that what he did is typical in the world of crypto. But when the government paints a much bleaker picture of FTX—one riddled with fraud and deception—what does that say about the industry?
Guest: Nitish Pahwa, associate business and tech writer at Slate.
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10/6/2023 • 32 minutes, 44 seconds
The Waves: Female CEOs Can’t Save Us
On this week’s episode of The Waves, Slate Senior Supervising Producer of Audio, Daisy Rosario can’t get toxic female bosses out of her head. She’s joined by Noelle Crooks, author of the new book, Under the Influence and former employee of one Rachel Hollis, so she knows a lot about bad workplaces. They discuss the insidious nature of saying your workplace is “like a family,” why an office dance party is a BAD thing, and how some powerful women leverage their minority status for ill.
In Slate Plus: How to recover from a job that burned you out.
If you liked this episode, check out: The Bama Rush to Trad Wife Pipeline
Podcast production by Cheyna Roth and Vic Whitley-Berry with editorial oversight by Daisy Rosario and Alicia Montgomery.
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10/5/2023 • 34 minutes, 36 seconds
What Next TBD: Inside Crypto's House of Cards
The trial of Sam Bankman-Fried marks the end of an era where crypto rose to dizzying, Super-Bowl-commercial heights. Where does the industry go from here?
Guest: Zeke Faux, investigative reporter for Bloomberg and author of Number Go Up: Inside Crypto’s Wild Rise and Staggering Fall.
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10/1/2023 • 31 minutes, 6 seconds
Slate Money: Delta Sky Miles vs The Two-Percent
Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers are the two-percent! Well, not Emily, to be clear. They dig into what’s going on with all the changes to Delta Sky Miles, the newest lawsuit by the FTC against Amazon, and why LinkedIn is and is not the worst.
In the Plus segment: What do you do with a concrete banana?
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9/30/2023 • 52 minutes, 3 seconds
What Next TBD: Who Will Pay For A COVID Vaccine?
After years of being a rare spot of universal, American-government-funded health care, this fall’s new COVID-19 vaccine is hitting the commercial market for the first time. So far, the rollout has been mired by hiccups and confusion.
Guest: Jen Kates, senior vice president at KFF
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9/30/2023 • 31 minutes, 18 seconds
What Next TBD: Is Amazon a Monopoly?
Amazon evolved from a place to get cheap used books to the “everything store”—one encompassing warehouses, logistics and shipping.
But with the FTC now run by Lina Khan—who wrote the essay ‘Amazon’s Antitrust Paradox” while at Yale Law School—a new contender for “antitrust trial of the century” has begun.
Guest: Leah Nylen, antitrust reporter for Bloomberg
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9/29/2023 • 28 minutes, 53 seconds
What Next: The Writer’s Strike Is Over: Who Won?
After five long months, the WGA and major Hollywood studios have reached a tentative agreement to end the strike—well, that one anyway. Who won what and where do the actors stand?
Guest: Michael Schulman, staff writer at The New Yorker.
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9/26/2023 • 26 minutes, 49 seconds
What Next TBD: What Instacart’s IPO Means for Tech
As other tech companies that rode the pandemic to success started sinking, Instacart managed to stay above water—they turned a profit and even made it to an IPO. But a stubbornly static stock price has some asking if Instacart—and the whole gig economy—hasn’t already peaked.
Guest: Erin Griffith, who reports on tech startups and venture capital for the New York Times
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9/23/2023 • 26 minutes, 26 seconds
Slate Money: What is Your Face Worth?
Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers are joined by Kashmir Hill to talk about her new book, Your Face Belongs to Us. They dig into the way facial recognition technology is used in unexpected (and sometimes creepy) ways. They also talk about the A.I. revolution and Rupert Murdoch’s “exit” from the Fox empire.
In the Plus segment: Kashmir talks about tracking her husband.
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9/23/2023 • 55 minutes, 40 seconds
Political Gabfest: Who’s Winning The Autoworkers Strike?
This week, Emily Bazelon, John Dickerson, and David Plotz discuss the UAW autoworkers’ strike against the Big Three automakers, talk with Yoel Roth about social media trust and safety, and weigh teachers’ burden to engage in parent diplomacy. Join us for Political Gabfest Live in Madison, Wisconsin on October 25!
Here are some notes and references from this week’s show:
Danielle Kaye for NPR: “Why the UAW is fighting so hard for these 4 key demands in the auto strike”
Yoel Roth in The New York Times: “Trump Attacked Me. Then Musk Did. It Wasn’t an Accident.”
Yoel Roth on Lawfare: “Content Moderation’s Legalism Problem”
Sarah Chaves in The Atlantic: “Parent Diplomacy Is Overwhelming Teachers”
9News: “Surveillance video: “Boebert seen vaping, arguing with patrons before removal from Denver theater”
Here are this week’s chatters:
Emily: Susan Haigh and Eric Tucker for AP: “Former federal prosecutor who resigned from Trump-Russia probe says she left over concerns with Barr”
John: Ashley Strickland for CNN: “How NASA has prepared to scoop up an asteroid sample landing in the desert” and The Art of Explanation: How to Communicate with Clarity and Confidence by Ros Atkins
David: NOAA National Marine Sanctuaries: “Mallows Bay-Potomac River National Marine Sanctuary” and National Trust for Historic Preservation: “Ghost Fleet of the Potomac, Mallows Bay”
Listener chatter from Kevin Collins: Thomas Kole’s a portrait of Tenochtitlan: a 3D reconstruction of the capital of the Aztec Empire
For this week’s Slate Plus bonus segment, Emily, John, and David discuss the surveillance camera video of Representative Lauren Boebert behaving badly in a Denver theater.
In the next Gabfest Reads, Emily talks with Zadie Smith about her book, The Fraud: A Novel.
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9/21/2023 • 1 hour, 1 minute, 24 seconds
ICYMI: Inside the MLM to Life Coach Pipeline
On today’s episode, Rachelle Hampton is joined by Jane Marie, the host of the award-winning podcast The Dream which recently released it’s highly-anticipated third season all about life coaches. The two discuss the rise of life coaching and it’s connection to the MLM universe, how the internet has accelerated the life coach boom and what exactly the American Dream has to do with any of this.
This podcast is produced by Se’era Spragley Ricks, Daisy Rosario, Rachelle Hampton and Candice Lim. With special thanks to Vic Whitley-Berry.
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9/20/2023 • 41 minutes, 33 seconds
How To!: Follow Your Small Business Dream
Sarah is a part-time pet groomer who dreams of opening up her own business. Having worked long hours for low wages, she can’t help thinking that she could earn more money and control her schedule if she starts her own pet salon. The only problem? Sarah has no idea where to start. On this episode of How To!, Carvell Wallace brings in Mae Chan to guide Sarah. Mae is a business alignment coach who helps entrepreneurs figure out their dreams and scale their businesses. Her questions for Sarah will help anyone considering a leap into self-employment think more about what they really want—and how to achieve it with minimal risk.
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9/19/2023 • 35 minutes, 28 seconds
What Next: The UAW Enters the Ring
Thousands of members of the United Auto Workers walked off the line at Midwestern auto plants Friday, putting an exclamation mark on a summer where labor—from screenwriters to UPS drivers—flexed its muscles. But is this a true resurgence of the broader U.S. labor movement?
Guest: Barry Eidlin, associate professor of sociology at McGill University
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9/19/2023 • 27 minutes, 45 seconds
Slate Money | Criminals: TheraNOPE
In this episode of the Criminals series, the gang talks with Rebecca Jarvis, host of “The Dropout” about Elizabeth Holmes and Theranos. Who were the real victims of Holmes’ crimes? How did her lofty goals drift into scandal? And where does she sit on a scale of “one to evil”?
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9/18/2023 • 41 minutes, 58 seconds
ICYMI: AI-Generated Books are Tarnishing Authors’ Reputations
On today’s episode, Rachelle Hampton and Candice Lim are joined by Jane Friedman, author of The Business of Being a Writer and the publisher of Hot Sheet, a newsletter about the publishing industry. The three discuss Friedman’s recent battle with AI-generated books that were being published and sold under her name on Amazon. Friedman published a blog about the saga titled “I Would Rather See My Books Get Pirated Than This (Or: Why Goodreads and Amazon are Becoming Dumpster Fires)” detailing the dangers that the increasingly prolific practice presents to authors and the publishing industry at large.
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9/16/2023 • 49 minutes, 47 seconds
What Next TBD: Can Politicians Keep Kids Safe Online?
The bipartisan Kids Online Safety Act has noble-sounding intentions, but has been called one of the most dangerous bills in years by the digital rights group, the Electronic Frontier Foundation.
Guest: Richard Blumenthal, senior United States senator from Connecticut.
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9/16/2023 • 30 minutes, 41 seconds
Slate Money: Old School Union, New School Strike
This week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers discuss the auto workers strike and how the UAW is using some tactics it's never tried before. They’ll also get into how things went down with the big Arm IPO and talk about the latest census data on poverty.
In the Plus segment: Tiny homes are mostly just click bait.
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9/16/2023 • 38 minutes, 54 seconds
What Next TBD: Google Makes Its Case
A trial a decade in the making has started, as the U.S. Justice Department’s antitrust case against Google and its unrivaled position as the top search engine begins. Is this the beginning of the government “taking on Big Tech” and the end of Google as we know it?
Guest: Leah Nylen, covering antitrust for Bloomberg.
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9/15/2023 • 32 minutes, 59 seconds
ICYMI: The Orwellian World of Vintage Fast-Food Training Videos
On today’s show, Candice Lim and Rachelle Hampton are joined by Slate business and tech writer Nitish Pahwa to describe his recent piece on the deranged world of vintage fast-food training videos. In the depths of Youtube, videos from companies like McDonald’s, Hardee’s, and Jack in the Box depict a bygone era where employees were trained by animated burgers and celebrity cameos.
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9/13/2023 • 41 minutes, 2 seconds
Hear Me Out: It’s Time To End The Engagement Ring
On today’s episode of Hear Me Out… popping the question.
By The Knot’s estimates, we’re officially entering peak wedding season. And we know there are many, many controversial opinions we could tackle about weddings, but let’s start with that thing that precedes most weddings: the engagement ring.
The ring – especially a diamond one – is an institution that feels like a foregone conclusion for couples taking the next step in their relationship. But does it need to be?
Belinda Luscombe, author of Marriageoloy and editor-at-large at TIME Magazine, joins us to argue for the end of the engagement ring.
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Podcast production by Maura Currie
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9/12/2023 • 32 minutes, 17 seconds
Slate Money - Optimal Illusions: The False Promise of Optimization
This week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers are joined by Coco Krumme to discuss her book Optimal Illusions: The False Promise of Optimization.
In the Plus segment: The story in Felix’s newsletter today on why the city of Birmingham in the UK has gone bankrupt.
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9/9/2023 • 41 minutes, 8 seconds
ICYMI: Are Green Powders a Pyramid Scheme?
On today’s episode, Rachelle and Candice field a listener question about Bloom, the green powder nutrition company that’s popping up all over TikTok. They’re joined by health and wellness writer Julia Craven to talk about Bloom’s virality and what we should know before jumping on the green powder bandwagon. But first, they break down Tinder’s latest villain: the Tabi Swiper.
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9/9/2023 • 52 minutes, 16 seconds
What Next TBD: Tech Disrupts the School Bus
When Howard County signed a $27 million contract with the start-up Zum, the company promised to modernize the way schools provide transportation. But when the school year started, that’s not what happened.
Guest: Daniel Zawodny, covering transportation for the Baltimore Banner and corps member of Report For America.
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9/8/2023 • 27 minutes, 40 seconds
Slate Money | Criminals Series: The $5 Billion Fraud
Felix Salmon and Elizabeth Spiers speak with Tom Wright, the author of Billion Dollar Whale to discuss Malaysian fraudster Jho Low. They talk about how he used political connections to live a lavish lifestyle and buy Leonardo DiCaprio an Oscar.
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9/4/2023 • 41 minutes, 37 seconds
What Next TBD: Social Media’s Pivot from News
It wasn’t long ago when social media was a place to go for up-to-the-minute updates in an emergency. But even as internet access is more widespread than ever—and natural disasters more frequent—Twitter and Facebook are less useful than ever. As hubs for news, that era appears over.
Guest: Will Oremus, tech reporter for the Washington Post.
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9/3/2023 • 28 minutes, 35 seconds
Slate Money: You Better Not Be Working
Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers talk about the state of working in the United States three years after the COVID pandemic began. They discuss the latest in the efforts in the SEC’s attempts to litigate cryptocurrencies. And finally, can you be a guilt-free investor?
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9/2/2023 • 52 minutes, 47 seconds
ICYMI: TikTok Shop is a Dystopian Mall Kiosk
On today’s episode, Rachelle and Candice are joined by sustainable stylist and fashion educator Lakyn Carlton to discuss TikTok Shop — a new feature that lets users purchase products without ever leaving the app. TikTok Shop is a modern day QVC, where merchants can shell products they’ve made — or are authorized to resell — in live videos with products tagged on screen. In the age of Amazon Storefronts and Etsy, it’s not surprising for TikTok to enter the e-commerce space. But the crowded, merchant-filled experience has ruined the app’s appeal and made users consider quitting TikTok for good.
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9/2/2023 • 40 minutes, 4 seconds
What Next TBD: Is LinkedIn...Cool Now?
As Twitt—sorry, X—continues to go through tumult, an unlikely, long-time player is emerging as the last acceptable place to post.
Guest: Sarah Frier, tech editor at Bloomberg Businessweek.
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9/1/2023 • 26 minutes, 3 seconds
What Next TBD: The Cost of "Sustainable" Pet Food
Most pet food is made from the byproducts of the meat that we, humans, eat. Recently, there’s been a rise in high-end pet food products - including things like lab-grown meat - that are touted as sustainable options for your furry friend. But a closer look raises questions about whether or not this food is actually better for the environment.
Guest: Chloe Sorvino, writer for Forbes and the author of the book Raw Deal: Hidden Corruption, Corporate Greed, and the Fight for the Future of Meat.
Special thanks to Patrick Fort and Garbanzo.
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8/27/2023 • 27 minutes, 9 seconds
Slate Money: Twelve Ways to Help Fix the World
Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers speak with author and academic Bjorn Lomborg about his latest book, “Best Things First”. How does Bjorn’s advice differ from effective altruism? And where should you donate your own money?
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8/26/2023 • 49 minutes, 32 seconds
What Next TBD: TikTok's Shady Deal with the U.S.
In the spring, it looked like TikTok was on the verge of being banned in America. Since then, it’s continued operating business as usual.
But this week, it was revealed that ByteDance and the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States came close to striking a deal that would allow TikTok to continue operating in the U.S. The negotiations give a glimpse into how social media—and by extension speech itself—could be regulated on the internet.
Guest:
Emily Baker-White, tech reporter and senior writer at Forbes
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8/25/2023 • 27 minutes, 22 seconds
ICYMI: How to Make Millions Playing Dungeons & Dragons
On today’s episode, Rachelle Hampton and Candice Lim are joined by Slate staff writer Luke Winkie to discuss his recent profile of Critical Role’s Matthew Mercer. Launched by Mercer and his friends in 2015, Critical Role is undoubtedly a megahit, boasting over 600 million views on YouTube. As Winkie wrote in his profile, “A 2021 data leak out of Twitch confirmed that Critical Role is one of the richest channels on the platform, generating a mammoth $9.6 million in revenue between 2019 and 2021.” Hampton, Lim and Winkie discuss the appeal of Critical Role, the so-called “Mercer Effect” and whether Critical Role’s success indicates that Dungeons & Dragons is no longer just the domain of the proudly geeky.
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8/23/2023 • 39 minutes, 44 seconds
Slate Money: Criminals Series - Looting, Outfoxing, and Swindling the West
Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers speak with Yepoka Yeebo, author of Anansi’s Gold: The Man Who Looted the West, Outfoxed Washington, and Swindled the World. Yeebo explains how John Ackah Bley-Miezah convinced people that he held the keys to a large fortune. All they needed to do was help him access it.
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8/21/2023 • 46 minutes, 25 seconds
What Next TBD: Digital Life After Death
Sorting through a loved one’s things after they’ve died can be an emotional, difficult chore. But now, added to that, people have to sort through the deceased’s password-protected online presence.
Guests:
Kate Lindsay, author of the internet culture newsletter Embedded and the article “My Mom Will Email Me After She Dies” in the Atlantic.
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8/20/2023 • 26 minutes, 46 seconds
What Next TBD: How Crypto Fails Sex Workers
At first, cryptocurrency seemed like the solution to the problems sex workers have had with traditional banks. But as the US moves to regulate the crypto industry, many are finding it hasn’t worked out like they hoped.
Guests:
Joel Khalili, reporter at Wired
Liara Roux, sex worker, organizer, and writer
You can check out Joel’s reporting in Wired here.
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8/18/2023 • 25 minutes, 59 seconds
Hear Me Out: You’re Not Too Cool To Go On A Cruise
On today’s episode of Hear Me Out… choosin’ cruisin’.
There seem to be two types of people in this world: those who love going on cruise ships, and those who wouldn’t be caught dead on one. Whichever you are, you probably feel pretty strongly about this.
The cruise industry has come roaring back from the brink since the lifting of pandemic restrictions, and there’s never been more to do while you’re at sea. So for the slight majority of you who, statistically, aren’t cruise fans, today’s guest poses a question: why not?
Ezra Dyer, senior editor at Car and Driver, joins us to argue that cruises are the kind of tacky fun that you might just like… in spite of yourself.
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8/15/2023 • 36 minutes, 1 second
What Next TBD: Tech's Mask Off Moment
When conservative writer Richard Hanania’s old posts, originally published under a pseudonym, came to light, people were shocked at just how racist and reactionary they were. Perhaps less shocking were the tech moguls who were revealed to be supporting him.
Guest: Anil Dash, technologist and writer, and the head of Glitch
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8/13/2023 • 29 minutes, 59 seconds
Slate Money: ESPN Bets on Sports Betting
Felix Salmon and Elizabeth Spiers are joined by Cardiff Garcia (host of The New Bazaar) to discuss ESPN’s big new investment in sports betting. They break down the state of a lawsuit over how much UFC fighters get paid. Finally, they talk about the increasing allure of private credit.
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8/12/2023 • 47 minutes, 45 seconds
What Next TBD: Can Smart Guns Save Lives?
A “smart gun” is designed to only work in the hands of the gun’s proper owner. With the first smart gun potentially coming to market later this year, can the tech deliver on its promise?
Guests:
Champe Barton, reporter at The Trace
Kai Kloepfer, founder and CEO of Biofire
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Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers kick off Slate Money’s series on some of the biggest financial scandals in recent history. This week they are joined by Joe Berlinger, director of “Madoff: The Monster of Wall Street”. Berlinger tells the Slate Money crew about Madoff and how his infamous Ponzi scheme ultimately came tumbling down.
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8/7/2023 • 44 minutes, 31 seconds
What Next TBD: Another Summer of COVID
After a quiet spring, COVID is surging back for the fourth consecutive summer. So, is this just life now?
Guest: Katherine Wu, staff writer at the Atlantic
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8/6/2023 • 28 minutes, 27 seconds
Slate Money: America’s Credit Rating Went Down. So What?
Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers talk about the recent downgrade of America’s credit rating by one agency. They also cover how Taylor Swift and Beyonce are changing concert tours, and figure out whether or not anyone is judging you during a business lunch.
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8/5/2023 • 53 minutes, 19 seconds
What Next TBD: Tesla's Big Lie
Tesla sold a vision of how electric vehicles would work: just like gas-powered cars, but cleaner, better. But as a scandal about misrepresented battery life and driving range unfolds, and the price of their cars remains high, it increasingly looks like the transition will be anything but seamless—if it happens at all.
Guest: Edward Niedermeyer, author of Ludicrous: The Unvarnished Story of Tesla Motors.
You can check out Reuters reporting on Tesla’s range scandal here.
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8/4/2023 • 29 minutes, 33 seconds
The Waves: Hollywood is On Strike. Let’s Burn it Down.
On this week’s episode of The Waves, we’re talking the Hollywood strikes. Slate senior supervising producer Daisy Rosario is joined by longtime journalist and author of Burn It Down, Maureen Ryan to unpack the systematic oppression that has taken place behind the scenes of your favorite movies and television shows for decades. They dig into the structures in place to keep women and marginalized voices from getting to the top of the ladder, and how none of these stories are examples of one bad apple. They also explore how the ongoing writers and actors strikes are an inevitable result of years of injustice - and what they need to bargain for to make true change in Hollywood.
In Slate Plus: A recap of episode 8 of Max’s And Just Like That…
If you liked this episode, check out: How to Survive in Hollywood
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8/3/2023 • 42 minutes, 23 seconds
What Next: After the Strike
In December, University of California graduate students went on strike for six weeks. It was the largest higher education strike in U.S. history. But even after the new contract was signed and the strikers were back at work, they found the fight didn’t stop.
Guest: Peter Lucas, a writer covering labor and politics.
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8/1/2023 • 25 minutes, 16 seconds
What Next TBD: America’s Downtown Ghost Towns
It’s 2023 – and less than half of all Americans have returned to the office full time. That means U.S. downtowns from San Francisco to New York are emptier than they’ve been in decades. Offices are actually trending away from policies that mandate returning five days a week. So, how can cities get creative – and develop some new ways to boost the local economy?
Guest: Henry Grabar, Slate staff writer
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7/30/2023 • 32 minutes, 52 seconds
Slate Money: Will The UPS Union Deal Deliver?
Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers talk about the tentative agreement between UPS and their unionized workers. They discuss how Goldman Sachs’ Apple credit card went bad, and a new study reveals how household income influences Ivy League admission rates.
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7/29/2023 • 57 minutes, 27 seconds
What Next TBD: Washington vs. A.I.
At a White House summit late last week, some of the biggest names in tech - including Meta, Google and OpenAI - signed “voluntary” commitments to safeguard artificial intelligence. In Congress, Senate Leader Chuck Schumer recently introduced a “legislative framework” for A.I. law… but as they debate and deliberate, the A.I. train continues to move full steam ahead. It’s clear the government’s paying attention, but can they keep up with the technology?
Guest: Makena Kelly, politics reporter at The Verge
Don Beyer, U.S. representative for Virginia's 8th congressional district
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7/28/2023 • 27 minutes
What Next TBD: Why Tech Lays Women Off First
When the tech industry started rounds of layoffs this year, almost half of the people let go were women—even though they make up a much smaller percentage of the workforce. What does this say about women in tech, and efforts to diversify the industry overall?
Guest: Emma Goldberg, a reporter who covers the future of work for the New York Times.
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7/23/2023 • 30 minutes, 18 seconds
Slate Money: Wal-Mart v. Amazon: The Battle for Retail’s Soul
Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers are joined by author Jason Del Rey to talk physical retail’s woes. They discuss Jason’s new book, Winner Sells All: Amazon, Walmart and the Battle for Our Wallets. Then they dig into what is going on with physical retail space and how looting can help Amazon and other resalers. And finally, why the IRS is investigating crypto bros in Puerto Rico.
In the Plus segment: What happened to Taco Tuesday?
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7/22/2023 • 57 minutes, 1 second
What Next TBD: America’s $5 Trillion Grid Problem
To keep places like Phoenix habitable, we need to have air-conditioning. But to have air-conditioning, we need a functional, modern electrical grid. With America’s grid already aging—and more demand coming in the form of electric cars and more A/C for hotter weather—what will it take to keep it going as the weather gets more extreme?
Guest: Dr. Joshua Rhodes, research scientist at the University of Texas at Austin studying energy systems and how they interact with our environment, climate, and life.
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7/21/2023 • 27 minutes, 5 seconds
The Waves: Why Barbie Lives On
On this week’s episode of The Waves, it’s all about Barbie. Slate senior producer Cheyna Roth sits down with M.G. Lord, author of Forever Barbie and co-host of “LA Made: The Barbie Tapes” from LAist and So Cal Public Radio. They discuss the history of the Barbie doll and how she’s managed to endure, how Barbie might actually be feminist, and what the new Greta Gerwig movie gets right about Barbie.
In Slate Plus: Episode 6 of our And Just Like That…recap.
If you liked this episode check out Is The Wedding Dress Dead?
Podcast production by Cheyna Roth with editorial oversight by Daisy Rosario and Alicia Montgomery.
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7/20/2023 • 32 minutes, 48 seconds
ICYMI: Take a Tour in the Shein Propaganda Factory
On today’s episode, Rachelle and Candice are joined by sustainable stylist and fashion educator, Lakyn Carlton. The three break down a now-infamous factory tour that the fast fashion giant Shein coordinated for a group of (un)lucky influencers. Since its founding in 2008, Shein has grown to a reported $100 billion valuation that is sustained by alleged labor violations and a cult-like following. In the Information Age, where Shein’s many controversies are well-known, how does the company manage to avoid blowback significant enough to affect its bottom line?
This podcast is produced by Se’era Spragley Ricks, Daisy Rosario, Candice Lim and Rachelle Hampton.
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7/19/2023 • 48 minutes, 21 seconds
Hear Me Out: The U.S. Sugar Program Isn’t A Sweet Deal
On today’s episode of Hear Me Out… a spoonful of sugar helps the trade protectionism go down.
The Farm Bill is up for renewal this year — and there’s a chorus of voices now, as in years past, saying it’s time we stop favoring domestic sugar.
The U.S. has subsidized American sugar producers for almost as long as we’ve been a republic, but the current system is very complicated… and very costly for the average consumer. Some argue that it’s closer to a cartel than it is a regulatory model.
Colin Grabow, research fellow at the Cato Institute, joins us to argue for the end of the U.S. sugar program.
You can find Celeste’s other podcast, Big Sugar, wherever you listen to podcasts.
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7/18/2023 • 34 minutes, 40 seconds
What Next: How Hollywood Shot Itself in the Foot
Actor Lea DeLaria knew Orange is the New Black was a hit. But Netflix made sure their paychecks didn’t reflect it. Fast forward ten years and this business model is the norm for nearly all working American actors.
So now, the actors are joining the writers on strike, something that hasn’t happened in Hollywood since 1960, when television was the new, upstart technology. Today the double strike is about streaming services and artificial intelligence.
Guests:
Alissa Wilkinson, Vox senior correspondent covering film and television.
Lea DeLaria, comedian and an actor best known for playing Big Boo on Orange is the New Black.
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7/18/2023 • 32 minutes, 2 seconds
What Next TBD: America’s Killer Car Problem
Pedestrian deaths in America have been rising for the last decade, while dropping in Europe and Japan. What makes the U.S. so dangerous for pedestrians?
Guest: Jessie Singer, author of There Are No Accidents: The Deadly Rise of Injury and Disaster―Who Profits and Who Pays the Price.
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7/16/2023 • 35 minutes, 15 seconds
Slate Money: Trouble in the House of Mouse
Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers talk about Disney’s challenges especially now that writers and actors are both on strike. They discuss the aftermath of the U.S. Supreme Court’s decision on student loans. And finally, what to do if your bank suddenly closes your account.
In the Plus segment: Giant cruise ship!
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7/15/2023 • 1 hour, 4 minutes, 10 seconds
ICYMI: Did Fancams Determine This Year’s Emmy Nominations?
On today’s episode, Rachelle and Candice talk all about the Emmys. This week the TV Academy announced the nominations for the 71st Emmy awards. Just a few days later, SAG-AFTRA announced that negotiations with the Academy had officially broken down and the actors’ guild was joining the writers’ guild on strike. So what does this all mean for the monthslong campaigns that actors have waged online to capture a nomination and, hopefully, a win?
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7/15/2023 • 45 minutes, 31 seconds
What Next TBD: Will UPS Workers Join "Hot Strike Summer?"
Contract negotiations between the Teamsters and UPS broke down last week and now a strike looms. With time running out, can both sides reach a deal?
Guest: Noam Scheiber, labor reporter for the New York Times.
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7/14/2023 • 32 minutes, 53 seconds
What Next TBD: Is Your Son Watching Andrew Tate?
Andrew Tate’s gross mix of self-help, toxic masculinity and misogyny captured the minds of young boys on the internet. It also led to indictments in Romania on human trafficking and rape charges.
Guest: Lisa Miller, contributing editor at New York magazine.
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7/9/2023 • 36 minutes, 54 seconds
Slate Money: Can Threads Take Down Twitter?
Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers talk about Threads, the new competitor to Twitter. They also discuss Janet Yellen’s trip to China and what it means for American foreign policy. Finally, have tipping and service charges gone too far?
In the plus segment: Pregnant workers now have more workplace rights.
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7/8/2023 • 54 minutes, 42 seconds
ICYMI: How Reddit Turned On Its Creator
On today’s episode, Candice Lim is joined by Slate business and tech writer Nitish Pahwa to break down the recent controversy surrounding Reddit CEO Steve Huffman. In May, Huffman announced Reddit would be charging third-party apps, bots and companies for using the site’s Data API. Redditors erupted in protest, with many popular subreddits going dark to signal their opposition to the move. The protest was effective, but where does Reddit go from here?
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7/8/2023 • 38 minutes, 46 seconds
What Next TBD: Threads vs. Twitter
It seems like with each new Musk innovation, a new Twitter replacement appears in response. But Threads is backed by Meta and available in just a few clicks for an Instagram user. Could it be the one?
Guest: Mike Isaac, technology reporter for the New York Times.
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7/7/2023 • 27 minutes, 23 seconds
The Waves: Is the Wedding Dress Dead?
On this week’s episode of The Waves, Slate senior producer Cheyna Roth does a deep dive on wedding dresses. From the oldest family-run bridal shop in the United States, to a warehouse in New York, she explores what the modern wedding dress looks like. Along with brides-to-be Shannon Palus and Susan Matthews, Cheyna talks with Marteal Mayer, the owner of Loulette Bride in Brooklyn, and mother-daughter duo Shelly Mueller and Alyssa Pung, co-owners of Becker’s Bridal in Fowler, Michigan.
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Podcast production by Cheyna Roth with editorial oversight by Daisy Rosario and Alicia Montgomery. Special thanks to Shannon Palus and Susan Matthews.
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7/6/2023 • 34 minutes, 42 seconds
ICYMI: What Next: TBD: The Trouble With TikTok Songs
How the music streaming business opened the door to billions of dollars in fraud.
Guest: Ashley Carman, Bloomberg News reporter covering the podcasting, music, and audio beat.
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7/5/2023 • 23 minutes, 20 seconds
What Next TBD: Turning Your Face Into Your Ticket
Even if you like the convenience of your phone unlocking after it reads your face, there are reasons to be wary of the TSA bringing facial recognition technology to the airport.
Guest: Geoffrey Fowler, technology columnist for the Washington Post.
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7/2/2023 • 23 minutes, 44 seconds
Slate Money: How The Affirmative Action Ruling Changes Corporate America
Felix Salmon, Emily Peck and Elizabeth Spiers take on the Supreme Court’s decision on affirmative action. They also talk about the (very good!) marketing campaign behind the upcoming Barbie movie, and the (less good) influencer campaign for SHEIN.
In the Plus segment: Vanna White needs a raise!
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7/1/2023 • 43 minutes, 48 seconds
ICYMI: The Subreddit Teeming with Crime, Complaints and Candles
On today’s episode, Rachelle dives into one of Candice’s most treasured subreddits: r/bathandbodyworks. They trace the boom of candle consumption during the pandemic, how sale culture keeps the store in business, and Candice’s definitive rules for curating your haul.
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7/1/2023 • 44 minutes, 8 seconds
What Next TBD: The Never-Ending Cancer Drug Shortage
A shortage of basic chemotherapy drugs to treat cancer is jeopardizing the care of hundreds of thousands of patients. The drugs aren’t expensive, or patented—so where are they?
Guest: Ed Yong, science journalist at The Atlantic.
Host: Lizzie O'Leary
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6/30/2023 • 34 minutes, 26 seconds
What Next TBD: Can Ozempic Cure Addiction?
Semaglutide, better known by its brand name Ozempic, has been making headlines as a weight loss drug – despite only having FDA approval to treat diabetes. Now, some say it doesn’t just quell cravings for food – it helps quiet cravings for alcohol, drugs, and other compulsive behaviors. For years, researchers have been studying semaglutide's effectiveness as an addiction cure in animals. What have they found? And – does it actually work?
Guest: Sarah Zhang covers health and medicine for The Atlantic
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6/25/2023 • 29 minutes, 50 seconds
Slate Money: The NCAA is…What, Exactly?
Felix Salmon, Emily Peck and Anna Szymanski break down the last two years of the college sports economy. Players can get paid for their name, image, and likeness. Is that a good thing? And how interest rate hikes have put private equity firms at risk.
In the plus segment: Why college sports coaches make so much, and how that might be changing.
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6/24/2023 • 1 hour, 4 minutes, 30 seconds
What Next TBD: The U.S. vs Amazon Prime
On Wednesday, the Federal Trade Commission sued Amazon, accusing the online giant of “tricking and trapping people into recurring subscriptions.” The complaint says Amazon “knowingly duped millions of consumers into unknowingly enrolling in Amazon Prime."
With murmurs of a larger antitrust probe against Amazon just around the corner, how serious is this suit for the tech giant?
Guest: Leah Nylen, antitrust reporter at Bloomberg
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6/23/2023 • 25 minutes, 48 seconds
ICYMI: The Super Bowl of Private Chef TikTok
On today’s episode, Rachelle and Candice are joined by Eater senior reporter Bettina Makalintal to discuss the rise of private chef content on TikTok. Specifically, the three discuss the now-yearly spectacle of chefs creating content about their summer sojourns to the Hamptons to cook for their wealthy clients. A form pioneered by Meredith Hayden, a.k.a @wishbonekitchen, Hamptons private chef content is now a phenomenon eagerly awaited by a section of TikTok viewers who call it their Super Bowl.
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6/22/2023 • 39 minutes, 56 seconds
What Next TBD: The George Soros Succession
One son was preparing to take over George Soros’s multi-billion-dollar empire. Then, there was a falling out, and a new heir-apparent was chosen.
Who is Alex Soros? And, as he takes over for one of the most influential figures in American politics, what can we expect from him?
Guest: Gregory Zuckerman, special writer at the Wall Street Journal
Host: Emily Peck
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6/18/2023 • 27 minutes, 50 seconds
Slate Money: Could Global Inequality Actually Be…Good?
This week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers discuss what the decline in global economic inequality really means for our future, why you shouldn’t take luxury pictures right after you burn an industry to the ground, and why the Instant Pot couldn’t survive.
In the Plus segment: Felix’s piece on why you shouldn’t stress about commercial real estate.
Podcast production by Cheyna Roth.
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6/17/2023 • 46 minutes, 39 seconds
What Next TBD: Reddit’s Rolling Blackouts
Across Reddit, thousands of forums have gone “private” and effectively disappeared. Users are protesting the site’s plan to capitalize on its data, which has been enjoyed for free by people making third-party apps for Reddit, as well as some of the world’s biggest companies training their A.I.
Guest: Sarah Needleman, reporter for the Wall Street Journal who writes about interactive entertainment and social media
Host: Emily Peck
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6/16/2023 • 26 minutes, 39 seconds
ICYMI: The TikTok Comedian Caught In A Ticketmaster Controversy
On today’s episode, Candice Lim and Slate culture writer Nadira Goffe explore the fandom surrounding standup comedian Matt Rife. They take it back to Rife’s breakout on Wild N’ Out and pick apart his rise on TikTok as a crowd work comic. But first, Nadira and Candice share their nominations for song of the summer.
This podcast is produced by Se’era Spragley Ricks, Rachelle Hampton and Candice Lim.
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6/14/2023 • 47 minutes, 14 seconds
What Next TBD: Are You Ready For A.I. Generated Actors?
As “deep fakes” have demonstrated, it’s getting easier and easier to swap an actor for a digital likeness—something that contributed to the Screen Actors Guild voting to authorize joining the writers on strike.
Guest: Heather Tal Murphy, Slate writer covering tech, business, and A.I.
Host: Lizzie O'Leary
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6/11/2023 • 32 minutes, 19 seconds
Slate Money: The SEC’s Crypto Crackdown
Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers talk about the SEC lawsuits against Binance and Coinbase. Then they are joined by Slate’s own Henry Grabar for a chat about his new book, Paved Paradise: How Parking Explains the World.
In the plus segment: More conversation with Henry Grabar
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6/10/2023 • 56 minutes
What Next TBD: Is Crypto Toast?
This week, the SEC sued Binance, the largest crypto exchange in the world, and Coinbase, the largest crypto exchange in the US. Is it a sign that the glory days of crypto are gone?
Guest: Stacy-Marie Ishmael, managing editor for crypto at Bloomberg News
Host: Lizzie O'Leary
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6/9/2023 • 33 minutes, 54 seconds
Hear Me Out: Pride Parades Aren’t Progressive Enough (And They’re Tacky)
On today’s episode of Hear Me Out… these gays are trying to murder my neutral palate.
Pride Month festivities come at a time this year when LGBT+ rights are under attack across the country. Brands like Target and Bud Light are facing backlash for lifting up queer voices — but is this all a symptom of pride having gone a little too mainstream?
Comedian, writer and podcast host H. Alan Scott joins us to discuss his vision for a pride to be proud of… and, at length, the trouble with rainbows.
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Podcast production by Maura Currie
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6/6/2023 • 45 minutes, 22 seconds
What Next: Can the Feds Lower Your Rent?
Housing prices have skyrocketed, from the usual hot spots in New York and San Francisco, out to the until-recently-affordable places like Boise, Idaho and Charlotte, North Carolina.
Sen. Brian Schatz proposed an $85 million program to entice cities and suburbs to enact “fair housing policies,” but is that enough to address a nationwide problem?
Guest: Henry Grabar, Slate writer and author of Paved Paradise: How Parking Explains the World.
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6/6/2023 • 28 minutes, 50 seconds
What Next TBD: Tech’s Newest Trillion Dollar Company
Until recently, Nvidia was a company known for graphics cards—a brand name among gamers but not necessarily the general public. But as part of the A.I. boom, Nvidia’s stock has skyrocketed, putting the company in Silicon Valley’s trillion-dollar valuation class with Apple, Meta, and Alphabet—briefly, at least.
Guest: Don Clark, freelance reporter specializing in chips and enterprise tech.
Host: Emily Peck
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6/4/2023 • 23 minutes, 44 seconds
Slate Money: The Economic Tale of the Writers Strike
Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers talk about the ongoing WGA strike, the latest news on the Fed’s fight against inflation, and how CEOs are courting Chinese business while staying in America’s good graces.
In the Plus segment, movie theaters are trying everything to get you back into the cinema, including booze and gourmet food.
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6/3/2023 • 54 minutes, 56 seconds
What Next TBD: When Your Childhood Was Their Content
When someone posts a photo of you online without your consent, it should be easy to have it taken down or confront the person who posted it. But what if the poster is your parent, and it’s not just one photo, but your entire childhood that’s readily available online? And as social media algorithms evolve to push content in front of as many people as possible, what happens when a temper tantrum goes viral?
Guest: Kathryn Lindsay, technology and culture writer.
Host: Emily Peck
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6/2/2023 • 27 minutes, 42 seconds
The Waves: The Hustle of Being Beautiful
On this week’s episode of The Waves, it’s all about the beauty industry. Senior writer and editor at New America, Julia Craven is joined by author and NPR host-at-large Elise Hu. They discuss Elise’s new book, Flawless - a remarkable investigation into the Korean beauty world. They also unpack the hustle culture inherent in beauty, how Eurocentric beauty trends are everywhere, and more.
In Slate Plus: Is Shiv Roy from HBO’s Succession misunderstood?
If you liked this episode, check out: Who’s Getting Rich Off Menopause?
Podcast production by Cheyna Roth with editorial oversight by Daisy Rosario and Alicia Montgomery.
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6/1/2023 • 39 minutes, 14 seconds
ICYMI: The Only People Who Made Money From Tumblr
On today’s show, Rachelle and Candice are joined by Slate staff writer Luke Winkie. The three go back in time to 2010 when a lucky few creators of Tumblr blogs like Hipster Puppies, This is Why You’re Fat and Garfield Minus Garfield were able to leverage their popularity into book deals. They discuss the blog to Urban Outfitters pipeline and the optimism that colored the memes created in that era, an optimism that starkly contrasts against the layered irony of today’s memes.
And at the top of the show, Rachelle and Candice revive an age-old debate: Team Edward vs. Team Jacob.
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This week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers are joined by NPR media correspondent David Folkenflik to discuss the series finale of Succession. It all comes down to this; who wins, who loses, and, who gets ‘the kiss from Daddy’?
The Tom/Greg Taylor Swift video.
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5/29/2023 • 1 hour, 4 minutes, 54 seconds
What Next: TBD | The Trouble With TikTok Songs
How the music streaming business opened the door to billions of dollars in fraud.
Guest: Ashley Carman, Bloomberg News reporter covering the podcasting, music, and audio beat.
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5/28/2023 • 21 minutes, 54 seconds
What Next: TBD | Tweetering on the Glass Cliff
How Twitter’s new CEO Linda Yaccarino finds herself on the edge of “the glass cliff”: when a woman is sent in to fix a big mess.
Guest: Vittoria Elliot, reporter for Wired, covering platforms and power
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5/26/2023 • 23 minutes, 32 seconds
ICYMI: Is Ice Spice an Industry Plant?
On today’s episode, Rachelle Hampton and Candice Lim speak to Sidney Madden, the host of NPR’s music podcast Louder Than a Riot. The three discuss the meteoric rise of 23-year-old Bronx rapper Ice Spice and how she went from going viral for a TikTok challenge to appearing on the Met Gala red carpet as Anna Wintour’s special guest. They dive deep into the criticism levied at Ice Spice and discuss whether the scrutiny she faces is merited.
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5/24/2023 • 41 minutes, 16 seconds
Slate Money: Succession S4 Ep9: Church and State
This week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers are joined by filmmaker, activist (and member of a real-life media dynasty) Abigail Disney to discuss the penultimate episode HBO’s Succession. At Logan’s funeral, speeches are made and power is brokered as the future of Waystar Royco hangs in the balance.
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5/22/2023 • 54 minutes, 28 seconds
What Next: TBD | A Tipping Point for Digital Tipping
From the coffee shop to the salon to the grocery store, Americans feel like they’re being prompted and prodded for tips more than ever—and they’re starting to resent it.
Guest: Kelly Phillips Erb, tax and law reporter for Forbes.
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5/21/2023 • 31 minutes, 54 seconds
Slate Money: The Debt Ceiling is Dumb
This week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers discuss this big debate over the debt ceiling and why it’s so dumb, Sam Altman’s request for AI regulation, and the theory of “greedflation”.
In the Plus segment: British accents!
Podcast production by Jessamine Molli and Patrick Fort.
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5/20/2023 • 51 minutes, 20 seconds
What Next TBD: Why Sports Are All in on Betting
Out of the smoky backrooms, Vegas and clandestine dens, and straight to your phone—how did gambling on sports go from forbidden to inescapable seemingly overnight?
Guest: John Holden, associate professor at Oklahoma State’s Spears school of business
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5/19/2023 • 27 minutes, 38 seconds
ICYMI: Quiet Luxury is TikTok’s Latest Nonsensical Fashion Trend
On today’s episode, Rachelle is joined again by Nadira Goffe for a sequel to their August 2022 episode “What is A Clean Girl?” The two dive deep into TikTok’s latest favorite fashion trend: quiet luxury, or stealth wealth. The aesthetic’s adherents posits that rich people don’t dress in ostentatious labels, but instead communicate their wealth through brands like Brunello Cucinell, Loro Piana and The Row. Quiet luxurists point to figures like the Roy family from HBO’s Succession and Gwyneth Paltrow at her recent trial as examples of stealth wealth. But the trend, like it’s “old money” predecessor, is built on a fundamental misunderstanding of fashion, classism and racism.
This podcast is produced by Se’era Spragley Ricks, Rachelle Hampton and Daisy Rosario.
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5/18/2023 • 37 minutes, 57 seconds
Hear Me Out: Workplace DEI Trainings Do More Harm Than Good
On today’s episode of Hear Me Out… if you need a Chief Diversity Officer, you’ve already failed.
Diversity, Equity and Inclusion (DEI) trainings are reaching ubiquity in pretty much every American workplace. There’s no doubt that discrimination, harassment and sequestering — on the basis of sex, sexuality, gender, race, age — all of that exists.
The question becomes what to do about it. And there’s an argument to be made that the trainings and buzzwords might be doing more to make workplaces worse than they do to make them better.
Cindy Gallop, entrepreneur and CEO of IfWeRanTheWorld and MakeLoveNotPorn, joins us.
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Podcast production by Maura Currie
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5/16/2023 • 32 minutes, 52 seconds
Slate Money Succession S4 Ep8: Election Night
This week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, Elizabeth Spiers, and guest Euan Rellie discuss the Election Night episode of Succession season 4.
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5/15/2023 • 50 minutes, 57 seconds
What Next TBD: Space After NASA
Space might seem to be heading from the domain of big government programs to a playground for billionaires. But just below the surface, a world of start-ups are getting ready to launch.
Guest:
Ashlee Vance, business columnist and author of When the Heavens Went on Sale: The Misfits and Geniuses Racing to Put Space Within Reach.
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5/14/2023 • 33 minutes, 4 seconds
ICYMI: Why Tarte Cosmetics is Being Accused of Racism (Again)
On today’s show, Rachelle is joined by ICYMI favorite, Nadira Goffe to talk about the makeup meltdown that’s taken over TikTok. The two dissect a Miami F1 brand trip sponsored by Tarte Cosmetics that ended in multiple apology videos and a promise by Tarte CEO Maureen Kelly to make her brand’s creator program more equitable. They dive deep into Tarte’s less than inclusive history and explain how exactly Pyrex got involved.
This podcast is produced by Se’era Spragley Ricks, Rachelle Hampton and Daisy Rosario.
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5/13/2023 • 47 minutes, 44 seconds
Slate Money: The Felix Wrote A Book Episode!
This week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers discuss Felix’s new book The Phoenix Economy: Work, Life, and Money in the New Not Normal.
In the Plus segment: monkeys and immigration policy.
Podcast production by Jessamine Molli and Patrick Fort.
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5/13/2023 • 49 minutes
What Next TBD: Who’s Afraid of A.I.?
Artificial intelligence—as it already exists today—is drawing from huge troves of surveillance data and is rife with the biases built into the algorithm, in service of the huge corporations that develop and maintain the systems. The fight for the future doesn’t look like war with Skynet; it’s happening right now on the lines of the Writer’s Guild strike.
Guests:
Meredith Whittaker, president of the Signal Foundation, co-founder of the AI Now Institute at NYU
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5/12/2023 • 32 minutes, 26 seconds
Slate Money: Succession S4 Ep7: Two Indias (And Two Episode Directors)
Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers are joined this week by a star-studded lineup to discuss episode seven of HBO’s Succession. Author Taffy Brodesser-Akner, plus Shari Springer Berman and Robert Pulcini (the directors of this episode) join the gang to talk about the Roys’ election tailgate party.
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5/8/2023 • 1 hour, 8 minutes, 12 seconds
What Next TBD: What's Going on at Meta?
Meta’s reached a sort of mid-life crisis. Between the layoffs, the stagnant metaverse and Facebook’s dwindling profile, does Zuckerberg have a plan here?
Guests:
Naomi Nix, Washington Post reporter
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5/7/2023 • 32 minutes, 5 seconds
Slate Money: Why The First Republic Failure Is Different
Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers talk about the failure of First Republic Bank, the (maybe) end of interest rate hikes, and how the shopping app Temu is shaking up e-commerce. Also, a more humane approach to chickens.
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5/6/2023 • 49 minutes, 38 seconds
What Next TBD: What the Writers' Strike Is Really About
When television and screenwriters went on strike in 2007, Netflix had just started offering the option to stream content. This week, the Writer’s Guild of America went on strike to update pay structures for the streaming era—and to get ahead of A.I. and the changes it may bring.
Guests:
Michelle Dean, television writer and journalist
Anousha Sakoui, entertainment industry writer for the Los Angeles Times
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5/5/2023 • 30 minutes, 13 seconds
ICYMI: Should Influencers Unionize?
On today’s show, Rachelle is joined by Wailin Wong, Darian Woods and Adrian Ma, the hosts of NPR’s daily economics podcast The Indicator from Planet Money. They discuss The Indicator’s recent five-part series on the $15 billion influencer industry that delves into where all that money is going—and where it’s not. They dive deep into the rise of the industry and how it emerged out of the economic precarity of the 2008 recession. They also talk through the astonishing fact that according to some surveys, almost 1 out of every 4 Gen Z-er wants to be an influencer.
This podcast is produced by Se’era Spragley Ricks, Daisy Rosario and Rachelle Hampton.
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5/3/2023 • 40 minutes, 29 seconds
Decoder Ring: Why You Can’t Find a Damn Parking Spot
Parking is one of the great paradoxes of American life. On the one hand, we have paved an ungodly amount of land to park our cars. On the other, it seems like it’s never enough.
Slate’s Henry Grabar has spent the last few years investigating how our pathological need for car storage determines the look, feel, and function of the places we live. It turns out our quest for parking has made some of our biggest problems worse.
In this episode, we’re going to hunt for parking, from the mean streets of Brooklyn to the sandy lots of Florida. We’ll explore how parking has quietly damaged the American landscape—and see what might fix it.
This episode was written by Henry Grabar, author of Paved Paradise: How Parking Explains the World. It was edited by Willa Paskin, who produces Decoder Ring with Katie Shepherd. We had extra production from Patrick Fort and editing help from Joel Meyer. Derek John is Slate’s executive producer of narrative podcasts. Merritt Jacob is our senior technical director.
Thank you to: Jane Wilberding, Rachel Weinberger, Donald Shoup, Andrés Duany, Robert Davis, Micah Davis, Christy Milliken, Fletcher Isacks, Victor Benhamou, and Nina Pareja.
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5/3/2023 • 37 minutes, 31 seconds
Slate Money: Succession S4 Ep6: Living+
Felix Salmon, Emily Peck and Elizabeth Spiers are joined by Ed Lee of the New York Times for a spoilery recap of episode six of the final season of HBO’s Succession. They talk about Waystar’s investors meeting, Roman’s attempts to fire some people, and Tom and Shiv’s new game.
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5/1/2023 • 57 minutes, 26 seconds
What Next TBD: Is Your Uber Drivers' Pay Rigged?
Two gig workers standing side-by-side can be offered the very same job and get offered two different wages. Set by an algorithm and based on calculations that are never explained to the workers themselves, this unequal pay for equal work is already subject to lawsuits that call it a form of price fixing and wage discrimination, but the tech is being tested in other industries.
Guests: Veena Dubal, law professor at the University of California College of the Law, San Francisco
Sergio Avedian, senior contributor at The Rideshare Guy
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4/30/2023 • 24 minutes, 42 seconds
Slate Money: “Traffic”: Ben Smith and the Death of the Social Web
Felix Salmon, Emily Peck and Elizabeth Spiers are joined by Semafor editor-in-chief Ben Smith to discuss his new book. They also break down Tucker Carlson’s departure from Fox News and the end of Buzzfeed News.
In the Plus: A throwback to the olden days of blogging.
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4/29/2023 • 48 minutes, 30 seconds
ICYMI: Should We All Be Pirating More?
On today’s episode, Rachelle is joined by Sarah Marshall, writer, critic and host of the You’re Wrong About and You Are Good podcasts. The two discuss Marshall’s recent You’re Wrong About episode about Napster, the ill-fated peer-to-peer file sharing app that helped create the internet as we know it. They dive deep into the moral and ethical quandaries around pirating content in an age where corporations can disappear content from streaming services at a second’s notice.
This podcast is produced by Se’era Spragley Ricks, Rachelle Hampton and Daisy Rosario.
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4/29/2023 • 40 minutes, 27 seconds
What Next TBD: Stephen King Is Just as Confused About Blue Checks as You Are
Twitter’s “blue check” verification went from something you applied for, to something you could pay for, to something you had to pay for…to something that many celebrities wouldn’t even accept for free. Master of horror Stephen King told us he wouldn’t pay for a blue check, but he’s not going to fight it either—he just doesn’t really understand what’s going on. Does anyone at Twitter understand?
Guests:
Alex Heath, deputy editor of The Verge
Jon Favreau, co-founder of Crooked Media, speechwriter for President Barack Obama
Stephen King, freelancer author
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4/28/2023 • 33 minutes, 6 seconds
Slate Money: Succession S4 Ep5: Bleed The Swede
Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers are joined by Peter Kafka of Vox. They discuss episode five of the final season of HBO’s Succession, including a drug-fueled party, a very normal trip to Norway, and why the baguette may in fact be mightier than the bagel. Also, bags of blood. Really.
Check out how the Succession timeline (kind of) works.
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4/24/2023 • 47 minutes, 48 seconds
What Next TBD: "Crap Apps": Why Weather Apps Suck
Weather apps can be frustrating. And with how much we rely on them to know if we should wear pants or shorts, they'll still leave you in the rain. But as the climate gets wilder, the questions of how to tell people what they need to know—and quickly—can be an issue of life or death.
Guest: Charlie Warzel, staff writer at the Atlantic
Daniel Swain, UCLA climate scientist
Host: Lizzie O'Leary
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4/23/2023 • 24 minutes, 22 seconds
Slate Money: Elon’s Rapid Unscheduled Disassembly
Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers discuss the biggest business, tech and finance stories of the week. This week, Fox News settles with Dominion, Elon’s rocketship blows up, and Apple has a savings account now.
In the plus: Quantifying the value of domestic labor.
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4/22/2023 • 55 minutes, 24 seconds
What Next TBD: Will A.I. Close Off the Internet?
Reddit announced it will start charging companies to use its huge, ever-growing trove of text to train A.I. chatbots. It’s another expense for the fledgling tech and another knock against the “open internet” ideals that Reddit once embodied.
Guest: Mike Isaac, tech reporter for the New York Times.
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4/21/2023 • 25 minutes, 27 seconds
Political Gabfest: Was Fox News Punished Enough?
This week, David Plotz, John Dickerson, and Emily Bazelon discuss the $787.5 million settlement of the Dominion Voting v. Fox News defamation lawsuit; the political game being played with raising the U.S. debt ceiling; and the Russian detention of American journalist Evan Gershkovich.
Here are some notes and references from this week’s show:
Jim Rutenberg and Katie Robertson for the New York Times: “A $787.5 Million Settlement and Embarrassing Disclosures: The Costs of Airing a Lie”
Matthew Iglesias for Slow Boring: “Medicaid work requirements are cruel and pointless”
Paul Krugman for the New York Times: “A Few Ways Out of the Debt Ceiling Mess”
Freedom House Report: “Freedom in the World 2023: Marking 50 Years in the Struggle for Democracy”
John Dickerson for CBS News Prime Time: “U.S. ambassador says she visited detained Wall Street Journal reporter”
Drew Hinshaw, Joe Parkinson, and Brett Forrest for the Wall Street Journal: “’You Are Completely Alone’: Inside the Infamous Russian Prison Holding Evan Gershkovich”
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention: “What Everyone Should Know about the Shingles Vaccine (Shingrix)”
“Pelosi in the House” HBO documentary
Carrie Blazina and Drew Desilver for the Pew Research Center: “House gets younger, Senate gets older: A look at the age and generation of lawmakers in the 118th Congress”
Here are this week’s chatters:
Emily: Julie Bosman, Mitch Smith, Jesse McKinley, and Jay Root for the New York Times: “Hundreds of Miles Apart, Separate Shootings Follow Wrong Turns” and Timothy Bella for the Washington Post: “Cheerleaders leaving practice were shot after one got in wrong car, teen says”
John: Ellie Zolfagharifard for the Daily Mail: “’Here there be robots’: Artist draws stunning medieval map of Mars showing off its huge craters and vast canyons”; Mars and its Canals by Percival Lowell; and Kaushik Patowary for Amusing Planet: “How Astronomer Percival Lowell Mistook His Own Eye For Spokes on Venus”
David: City Cast DC podcast: “D.C.’s Rat-Hunting Dogs And Other Rat Solutions” (Host Bridget Todd, Producer Julia Karron)
Listener chatter from Nancy Hall: Joe Mahr and Megan Crepeau for the Chicago Tribune: “Stalled Justice: Delays in the Cook County courts”
For this week’s Slate Plus bonus segment, Emily, John, and David discuss the dilemma posed by the months-long absence of Dianne Feinstein from the U.S. Senate.
In the next Gabfest Reads, David talks with Washington Post columnist Alexandra Petri about her latest book, Alexandra Petri’s US History: Important American Documents (I Made Up).
Email your questions and chatters to gabfest@slate.com or tweet us @SlateGabfest. (Messages may be quoted by name unless the writer stipulates otherwise.)
Podcast production by Cheyna Roth and Jared Downing.
Research by Julie Huygen.
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4/20/2023 • 53 minutes, 55 seconds
Slate Money: Succession S4 Ep4: Succession!
Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers are joined by graphic designer Michael Bierut to recap the fourth episode of the last season of HBO’s Succession. The family attends Logan’s wake where big moves are made. Someone gets a surprising phone call. And where did that piece of paper come from?
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4/17/2023 • 1 hour, 2 minutes
What Next TBD: Will Banning Social Media Help Kids?
A new law in Utah that goes into effect next year states that anyone under 18 needs parental permission to use social media. Is it a necessary step to protect children from harms associated with social media, or are we blunting a tool of expression for the youth?
Guest: Dr. Mitch Prinstein, chief science officer at American Psychological Association
Host: Lizzie O’Leary
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4/16/2023 • 32 minutes, 58 seconds
Slate Money: The China Problem
Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers go over China’s expanding role in the international debt market. They discuss a new problem with the American mortgage system, and dive into the wild world of the collectibles market.
In the Plus segment, Rupert Murdoch’s email divorce.
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4/15/2023 • 52 minutes, 32 seconds
What Next TBD: How Gamers Leaked Classified Pentagon Docs
Discord is a place to share a community online. Most often, it's for gaming. So why did classified intelligence from the Pentagon end up on a small server whose main interests seem to be video games, military equipment and memes? And how?
Guest: Shane Harris, national security reporter for the Washington Post.
Host: Lizzie O’Leary
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4/14/2023 • 33 minutes, 28 seconds
ICYMI: The Free Trial Period of Social Media Is Over
On today’s episode, Rachelle is joined by Alex Kantrowitz, the writer behind the Big Technology newsletter and podcast. The two discuss the recent changes to Twitter Blue and how paying for Twitter might be a joke, it won’t be for other platforms like Instagram and TikTok. As paid verification models become de rigueur in a bid to woo content creators, what will that mean for the average social media user? Is this all just a giant protection racket? Or is it platforms catering to the people who actually create content for them?
This podcast is produced by Se’era Spragley Ricks, Rachelle Hampton and Daisy Rosario.
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4/12/2023 • 46 minutes, 52 seconds
Slate Money: Succession S4 Ep3: Logan F---s Off
Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers are joined by Slate’s Lizzie O’Leary to go over the shocking third episode of the last season of HBO’s Succession. Are Tom and Shiv going to get back together? What was in the “Logistics” folder? And was Connor’s wedding actually nice?
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4/10/2023 • 1 hour, 4 minutes, 38 seconds
What Next TBD: Why Flying Is So Bad Now
U.S. air travel is being strained on all sides—travel demand is back to 2019 levels, but the number of pilots and planes and ground crew hasn’t caught back up, and a rash of close calls are raising safety concerns about America’s aging flying infrastructure.
Guest: Jon Ostrower, editor in chief of The Air Current.
Host: Lizzie O’Leary
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4/9/2023 • 34 minutes, 52 seconds
Slate Money: How to Win at Roulette
Slate Money hosts Felix Salmon, Emily Peck and Elizabeth Spiers talk about the podcasting economy and if the bubble has burst—or if it will soon. They also talk about Anthony Scaramucci’s hedge fund troubles, and a story about how to win at roulette.
In the Plus segment: The implications of Supreme Court Justice Thomas’ ties to a billionaire, and the broader politicization of the American judicial system.
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Podcast production by Patrick Fort, with technical assistance from Ben Richmond.
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4/8/2023 • 49 minutes, 25 seconds
What Next TBD: Wait, TikTok Has a Sister App?
While TikTok’s parent company, Bytedance, is fighting to keep its flagship app from being banned in the United States, it’s also pushing a new app into the marketplace—Lemon8. One part Pinterest, one part Instagram and a dash of its sister app, Lemon8 is most likely saddled with the same security concerns that led lawmakers to consider banning TikTok.
Guest: Sapna Maheshwari, business reporter for the New York Times.
Host: Lizzie O’Leary
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4/7/2023 • 30 minutes, 18 seconds
ICYMI: Buying Concert Tickets Online is Still a Hellscape
On today’s episode, Rachelle Hampton is joined by Justin Richmond, co-host of the music podcast Broken Record and host of the new podcast Started From the Bottom. The two discuss what, if anything, has changed with the online ticketing giant Ticketmaster since ticket sales for Taylor Swift’s Eras Tour dominated headlines. How did Ticketmaster come to account for 70% of the ticketing and live event market? Now that it does, what responsibility do artists have to their fans to keep ticket prices accessible? Can real lasting change be made to system that most agree is broken?
This podcast is produced by Se’era Spragley Ricks, Daisy Rosario, Daniel Schroeder and Rachelle Hampton.
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4/5/2023 • 46 minutes, 29 seconds
How To!: Succeed at Social Media
Emily is a successful career and executive coach in Ohio, who has done well finding clients through word-of-mouth. But in order to expand her business she knows she has to up her online marketing game. The only catch? She is terrified of social media. On this episode of How To!, co-host Amanda Ripley brings in Suzy Wagner, president of Brand & Buzz. Suzy has some surprising advice for creating a social media strategy that cuts through the noise while being realistic and authentic to yourself.
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4/4/2023 • 41 minutes, 40 seconds
Slate Money: Succession S4 Ep2: F---ing Pirates
Felix Salmon, Emily Peck and Elizabeth Spiers are joined by The New Yorker’s Clare Malone to recap the latest episode of HBO’s Succession. Will Kerry get on ATN? Will the Kids squash the GoJo deal? Is anyone going to come to Connor’s wedding?
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4/3/2023 • 1 hour, 4 minutes, 50 seconds
What Next TBD: Seeking Asylum Via App
CBP One, U.S. Customs and Border Protection's app that is supposed to make crossing the border more efficient, is littered with bugs. But even a perfectly functional smartphone app would pose problems for people seeking asylum on the southern U.S. border.
Guest: Arelis Hernández, Washington Post reporter
Gia Del Pino, director of communications at the Kino Border Initiative
Felicia Rangel Samponaro, director of the Sidewalk School
Host: Lizzie O’Leary
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4/2/2023 • 39 minutes, 38 seconds
Slate Money: The Layoff Dopamine Hit
This week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers are joined by Kevin Delaney, co-founder of Charter. They discuss the layoffs that have swept across multiple industries, and if letting workers go actually solve the issues CEOs say they are. They also take a look at how work has changed during the pandemic, digging into how middle managers have the worst jobs, and how having too many meetings sucks.
In the Plus segment: Who does the radical candor system actually help?
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4/1/2023 • 1 hour, 6 seconds
What Next TBD: When A.I. Denies Your Health Care
As Medicare Advantage plans have increased their reliance on software to determine what their customers require—and, therefore, receive—elderly patients are being denied coverage for care they need. What happens when an algorithm — not a doctor — decides how much care you need and it’s not enough?
Guest: Casey Ross, national technology correspondent at STAT
Host: Emily Peck
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3/31/2023 • 32 minutes, 8 seconds
How To!: Bounce Back From a Layoff
On a recent workday, Pauline woke up and logged into her computer from home … only to find an email saying she was being laid off — effective immediately. She and her entire team, many of them working remotely, instantly lost access to all of their company accounts. Pauline was shell-shocked, hurt, and wondering what to do next. In the wake of massive tech layoffs, it’s a story that’s now all-too familiar. On this episode of How To!, host Carvell Wallace brings in Susan Peppercorn, a career coach who writes for the Harvard Business Review and is the author of Ditch Your Inner Critic At Work. She has some tried-and-true tactical tips for making the most of a sudden job loss.
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Podcast production by Derek John, Rosemary Belson, and Kevin Bendis.
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This week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers are joined by author and journalist Jim Stewart to recap episode one, season four of HBO’s Succession. They talk architecture, business deals, and parallels between the television drama and real-life media moguls.
Podcast production by Anna Phillips and Patrick Fort.
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3/27/2023 • 1 hour, 1 minute, 24 seconds
What Next TBD: Tesla’s Full Self-Driving Woes
Elon Musk has been promising fully self-driving Teslas to the public for years and the beta version of Full Self-Driving is already in over 300,000 cars. But as a recent recall attests, the software still isn’t ready to take the wheel—and Musk himself may be a big reason why.
Guest: Faiz Siddiqui, tech reporter for the Washington Post
Host: Lizzie O’Leary
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3/26/2023 • 35 minutes, 27 seconds
Slate Money: Too Big, To Fail, Too Furious
This week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers discuss the rescue of Credit Suisse. They also break down the politics behind federal deposit insurance, and what will come out of this week’s Congressional hearings about TikTok.
Podcast production by Patrick Fort.
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3/25/2023 • 1 hour, 9 minutes, 28 seconds
What Next TBD: The Case Against TikTok
To most of its 150 million American consumers, TikTok is a fun app. To some creators, TikTok is a job and their platform. But to members of the US government, TikTok is a national security risk. As the fight over TikTok’s future comes to Capitol Hill this week, what’s next for the embattled social media platform?
Guest: Emily Baker-White, senior writer, tech reporter at Forbes
Host: Lizzie O’Leary
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3/24/2023 • 38 minutes, 39 seconds
What Next: Why Biden Broke his Promise on Drilling
Despite his campaign promises, President Biden has signed off on the Willow Project, an $8 billion plan to extract 600 million barrels of oil from public lands in Alaska. But how useful might this 30-year project be with the country continually prioritizing electric energy?
Guest: Ben Lefebvre, energy reporter at Politico.
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3/23/2023 • 29 minutes, 58 seconds
What Next TBD: When A.I. Steals Your Voice
Using just what you’ve posted to social media, generative A.I. can create a “puppet version” of your voice—one that’s close enough to scam your family into paying thousands in, say, bail money. And imitating public officials to create “deep fakes” who say whatever they’re told is even easier.
Guest: Pranshu Verma, tech reporter for the Washington Post.
Host: Lizzie O’Leary
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3/19/2023 • 28 minutes, 2 seconds
Slate Money: Normal Bank Failure
This week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers dive into the drama in the banking world. They discuss the fallout of the collapse of Silicon Valley Bank and its subsequent government takeover. They also take some listener questions about SVB! Felix, Emily and Elizabeth also discuss Credit Suisse, and how government policy may change for banks that are “too big to fail”.
In the Plus segment: What was it like to have an SVB bank account in the last week?
Podcast production by Anna Phillips and Patrick Fort.
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3/18/2023 • 57 minutes, 50 seconds
What Next TBD: Where Is Silicon Valley Going to Bank Now?
The economy is doing well almost every but in tech, where headlines about layoffs have been replaced with news about Silicon Valley Bank’s demise. The collapse of “the central artery for the tech industry” looks like the end of an era. Where do venture capitalists, start-ups—and the industry writ large—go now?
Guest: Priya Anand, reporter at Bloomberg covering venture capital and start-ups.
Host: Lizzie O’Leary
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3/17/2023 • 31 minutes, 44 seconds
Political Gabfest: Go Ahead, Call It A Bailout
David Plotz, John Dickerson, and Emily Bazelon discuss the Silicon Valley Bank bailout with David Leonhardt; Ron DeSantis coming out against aid to Ukraine; and free speech fights at elite law schools.
Here are some notes and references from this week’s show:
William Saletan for The Bulwark: “The Ukraine Untruths of Disingenuous DeSantis”
Ken White for The Popehat Report: “Hating Everyone Everywhere All At Once At Stanford”
David Lat for Original Jurisdiction: “Yale Law Is No Longer #1—For Free-Speech Debacles”
Jordan Metzl for The New York Times: “Working From Home Is Less Healthy Than You Think”
Here are this week’s chatters:
Emily: Maurice Chammah for The Marshall Project: “The Mercy Workers”
John: OpenAI example recipe generator
David: Robyn Dixon for The Washington Post: “A Railroad Fan Photographed Putin’s Armored Train. Now He Lives In Exile.”
Listener chatter: Alex Traub for The New York Times: “Judy Heumann, Who Led the Fight for Disability Rights, Dies at 75”; Being Heumann: An Unrepentant Memoir of a Disability Rights Activist, by Judith Heumann;
Crip Camp; The Power of 504, Judy's Heumann’s Ted Talk
For this week’s Slate Plus bonus segment Emily, David, and John discuss the health benefits and drawbacks of working from home.
Tweet us your questions and chatters @SlateGabfest or email us at gabfest@slate.com. (Messages may be quoted by name unless the writer stipulates otherwise.)
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Research by Bridgette Dunlap.
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3/16/2023 • 1 hour, 8 minutes, 34 seconds
What Next: Is the SAT Done For?
Colleges are dropping the SAT as a requirement in their admissions process, citing studies that what the test measures best is simply how well you’ve prepared for the test. But the question at the heart of the matter remains: how do you create a fair and equitable college admissions process? And can a test-optional system help foster a more equal playing field when there’s still so much inequality built into our school systems?
Guest: Jeremy Bauer-Wolf, senior reporter at Higher Ed Dive.
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3/16/2023 • 31 minutes, 47 seconds
What Next: Why Silicon Valley Bank Collapsed
The downfall of Silicon Valley Bank marks the second largest bank collapse in American history.
Why and how did SVBgo under? Where were the regulators? And how do we stop this from happening again?
Guest: Annie Lowery,staff writer at The Atlantic and the author of Give People Money.
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3/15/2023 • 32 minutes, 3 seconds
What Next TBD: Would You Let A.I. Date For You?
The online dating world can be brutal and repetitive—just the kind of thing you might want to automate. But, in one tech writer’s experience, artificial intelligence isn’t ready to make real connections—at least, not without a lot of help.
Guest: Heather Tal Murphy, covers business and technology at Slate
Host: Lizzie O’Leary
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3/12/2023 • 32 minutes
Slate Money: The Banks Special
This week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers are joined by American Banker national editor Kevin Wack to discuss all things banking, including retail banking, why it’s so difficult to switch banks and why neobanks aren’t more successful. They also discuss the Wells Fargo fake accounts scandal.
In the Plus segment: the lead up to the Silicon Valley Bank downfall.
Podcast production by Anna Phillips and Patrick Fort.
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3/11/2023 • 48 minutes, 41 seconds
What Next TBD: When Meta Tells Law Enforcement About Your Abortion
Just weeks before the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade, a Nebraska woman and her daughter were charged with performing an illegal abortion, thanks to information that law enforcement uncovered by going through their Facebook accounts.
Guest: Johana Bhuiyan, senior reporter on tech and surveillance for The Guardian
Host: Lizzie O’Leary
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3/10/2023 • 28 minutes, 34 seconds
Sponsored: How Can We Leverage the Power of Our Personal Brands?
It’s official, Season 3 of The Relentless is coming to a close. But before we wrap, we've got one final episode with advice to help you move fearlessly in business and beyond.
We begin with an inspiring conversation with Amory Wooden, chief marketing officer at Anywhere Brands. Amory shares her best professional advice, from how she combines her passion for creativity with her love of data to how she stays focused on what matters most.
Then, we bring it all home with Jessie Hoff, broker and owner of CENTURY 21 JRS Realty, whose talent for personal branding helps her succeed. Jessie discusses the value of consistency during challenging times and how she approaches every day excited and inspired about the opportunities at hand.
Guests
Amory Wooden: Chief Marketing Officer, Anywhere Brands
Jessica Hoff: Broker & Owner of CENTURY 21 JRS Realty
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3/7/2023 • 29 minutes, 24 seconds
What Next TBD: The Hollywood Weight Loss Wonder Drug
The diabetes medication Ozempic has exploded in popularity, particularly amongst those in Hollywood looking to lose a few extra pounds. But a silver bullet for weight loss leads to a number of questions: Is “buying weight loss” via injection somehow worse than diet and exercise? Are so many people buying and using this drug that people who need it for its intended purpose are missing out? What happened to body positivity?
Guest: Matthew Schneier, feature writer for New York Magazine.
Host: Lizzie O’Leary
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3/5/2023 • 34 minutes, 30 seconds
Slate Money: Microchips and Child Care
This week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers discuss a stipulation in the CHIPS Act that requires companies who take federal funding from the CHIPS Act to provide child care options for their employees. They also discuss the political controversy over ESG investing, and the confusion over a new partnership that will allow Amazon employees to pay for their mortgage with Amazon stock.
In the Plus segment: restaurant ordering etiquette.
Podcast production by Anna Phillips.
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3/4/2023 • 48 minutes, 44 seconds
What Next TBD: What Would Convince a Lab Leak Skeptic?
It was reported this week that the U.S. Department of Energy now believes, “with low confidence,” that the COVID-19 virus came from a lab. But is there enough evidence for the “lab leak theory” to convince those who believe the virus emerged from animals in a wet market?
Guest: Angela Rasmussen, virologist at the Vaccine and Infectious Disease Organization at the University of Saskatchewan in Canada.
Host: Lizzie O’Leary
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3/3/2023 • 35 minutes, 42 seconds
What Next TBD: Is a 25-Year-Old’s Brain Mature?
New understandings of how our brains develop are changing how the law considers who is mature and who isn’t. But If our brains are still developing, when can the law treat us like adults?
Guest: Jane C. Hu, independent science journalist.
Host: Lizzie O’Leary
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2/26/2023 • 27 minutes, 12 seconds
Slate Money: Homebuilders are Doing Great
This week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers discuss why the market for newly built homes is outperforming the market for existing homes. They also talk about the increased employment rate for people with disabilities, as well as the new slew of charges against Sam Bankman-Fried.
In the Plus segment: the new World Bank president.
Podcast production by Anna Phillips.
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2/25/2023 • 52 minutes, 54 seconds
What Next TBD: Why A.I. Says the Darndest Things
Microsoft has been testing out their new artificial intelligence on their long-ridiculed search engine Bing. The results? A chatbot that lies brazenly and confidently, and has a penchant for manipulation. What are the risks and rewards of letting bots loose on the world?
Guest: Drew Harwell, Washington Post tech reporter covering artificial intelligence
Host: Emily Peck
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2/24/2023 • 31 minutes, 2 seconds
What Next TBD: The Baby-Sleep Industrial Complex
The tech-laden, luxury bassinet “Snoo” has been presented as preventing Sudden Infant Death Syndrome, helping babies sleep longer, and a totally reasonable way to spend $1,700. Is any of that true?
Guest: Kate Taylor, senior features correspondent for Business Insider
John Collins, Lizzie’s husband.
Host: Lizzie O’Leary
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2/19/2023 • 34 minutes, 45 seconds
Slate Money: Rihanna for World Bank President
This week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers explain why the president of the World Bank is stepping down, and throw out some guesses of who might replace him. They also discuss the train derailment in Ohio, and the influx of subpar online advertisements.
In the Plus segment: How should Felix market his upcoming book?
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2/18/2023 • 52 minutes, 12 seconds
What Next TBD: What Made the Balloon Drama Pop Off?
Come to think of it, a giant balloon seems like a pretty conspicuous way to spy on another country. So what was that Chinese spy balloon doing above the U.S.—and what have American planes been shooting down since?
Guest: Shane Harris, Washington Post reporter covering intelligence and national security.
Host: Lizzie O’Leary
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2/17/2023 • 38 minutes, 37 seconds
What Next TBD: Contraband Tech Behind Bars
It’s hard to put a number on it but judging from the number of videos emerging online, there are more and more contraband cell phones finding their way into the hands of people in prison, who use them to record TikTok dances, take online courses, and alert the outside world to what’s happening on the inside.
Guest: Keri Blakinger, criminal justice reporter at the Los Angeles Times, author of Corrections in Ink.
Host: Lizzie O’Leary
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2/12/2023 • 34 minutes, 15 seconds
Slate Money: Will A.I. Kill the Internet?
This week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers discuss Microsoft’s attempt to break into artificial intelligence assisted search with a revamp of their Bing search engine. They also talk about record high profits for oil companies and Bed Bath & Beyond’s financial shenanigans.
In the Plus segment: Tether.
Podcast production by Anna Phillips.
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2/11/2023 • 54 minutes, 57 seconds
What Next TBD: Why Ban TikTok?
TikTok was banned on government agency devices in December; several schools and universities have banned it on their devices and wifi networks, and the governor of Texas unveiled a plan to ban it in the state. Can “Project Texas” stem the anti-TikTok tide? And would banning the app actually achieve…anything?
Guest: Louise Matsakis, reporter for Semafor covering tech and China
Host: Lizzie O’Leary
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2/10/2023 • 30 minutes, 3 seconds
Sponsored: How Can We Take Action to Build a Better Future?
Whether the future promises great opportunity or forebodes trying times, it brings a level of uncertainty that can be scary. So how can we prevent our fears of the unknown from paralyzing us and halting our progress?
In this episode of The Relentless, Kristen is joined by Stacy Smedley, executive director of Building Transparency, a nonprofit committed to improving sustainability in construction. As a leader at the forefront of the fight against climate change, Stacy has much to be afraid of, but she doesn’t let that stop her. Instead, she puts her fears to good use and takes action.
Later in the episode, Kristen talks to Julio Cardenas, broker and owner of CENTURY 21 King. Julio speaks about the challenges he predicts for the real estate industry and why, instead of being worried, he's excited.
Guests
Stacy Smedley: Executive Director of Building Transparency
Julio Cardenas: Broker & Owner of CENTURY 21 King
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2/9/2023 • 31 minutes, 54 seconds
What Next TBD: Did a Twentysomething Con America’s Biggest Bank?
JP Morgan Chase is getting an education on FAFSA and financial aid–which would’ve been helpful before they acquired a now, quite dubious seeming start-up.
Guest: Ron Lieber, New York Times journalist, author of the “Your Money” column.
Host: Lizzie O’Leary
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2/5/2023 • 35 minutes, 38 seconds
Slate Money: The Drug that Debunks Free Will
This week, former Slate Money host Cathy O’Neill joins Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers to discuss the technical glitch at the New York Stock Exchange. They also talk about a new study that found the IRS disproportionately audits Black taxpayers, and about Ozempic, a shockingly effective – and expensive – weight loss drug.
In the Plus segment: a debate over Slack etiquette.
Podcast production by Anna Phillips.
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2/4/2023 • 58 minutes, 1 second
What Next TBD: How COVID Changes Our Immune Systems
Last fall it seemed like everyone got sick—not just with COVID, but from a slew of respiratory diseases, from the mild to the severe. Researchers are trying to untangle how our immune systems have changed in the COVID era, and if we’re paying back an “immunity debt” or are victims of “immunity theft.”
Guest: Tim Requarth, contributing writer to Slate.
Host: Lizzie O’Leary
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2/3/2023 • 31 minutes, 48 seconds
What Next TBD: Did A.I. Write This Headline?
The proliferation of chatbots and A.I.-generated art has consumers and tech companies alike convinced that artificial intelligence is ready to be integrated into consumer electronics, products, homes, and across industry. In fact, it’s already in progress. What’s the worst that can happen?
Guest: Will Oremus, technology reporter for the Washington Post
Host: Lizzie O’Leary
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1/29/2023 • 37 minutes, 53 seconds
Slate Money: Chip War
This week, Chris Miller joins Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers to discuss his new book, Chip War: The Fight for the World's Most Critical Technology. They discuss the crucial role of microchips, the global dynamics of microchip design and manufacturing, and how chips factor into US-China relations.
In the Plus segment: Moore’s Law.
Podcast production by Anna Phillips.
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1/28/2023 • 50 minutes, 19 seconds
ICYMI: TikTok Isn’t For Creators Anymore
On today’s episode, Rachelle Hampton is joined by journalist and author Cory Doctorow to discuss his latest piece, “The Enshittification of TikTok,” in Wired. They talk about the life cycles of online platforms, why nobody on the platforms have any understanding of the rules of the game, and why we’re in dire need of better regulations.
This podcast is produced by Daniel Schroeder, Rachelle Hampton, and Daisy Rosario.
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1/28/2023 • 40 minutes, 22 seconds
What Next TBD: Will Google Get Broken Up?
The U.S. Department of Justice announced this week that it is suing Google over its ad technology. What do they contend Google has been doing? And does this mean Alphabet is headed for a Bell Telecom-style bust-up?
Guest: Leah Nylen, reporter covering antitrust for Bloomberg News
Host: Lizzie O’Leary
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1/27/2023 • 30 minutes, 45 seconds
What Next: The "Other NRA" Fighting Restaurant Workers
How COVID-stress, a tipped minimum wage locked in since 1991, and lobbying from the National Restaurant Association have pushed restaurant workers—and the industry as a whole—to the brink of crisis.
Guest: Saru Jayaraman, President of One Fair Wage and the Director of the UC Berkeley Food Labor Research Center.
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1/25/2023 • 34 minutes
What Next TBD: Does Meta Even Care When Its Users Get Hacked?
It can feel very personal to have your Facebook or Instagram page hacked—they’re your pictures and your friends after all. But Meta, the social media parent company, handles hacks with anything but a personal touch.
Guest: Kirstin Grind, investigative reporter for the Wall Street Journal.
Host: Lizzie O’Leary
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1/22/2023 • 32 minutes, 39 seconds
Slate Money: It’s Not TV
This week, Felix Gillette joins Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers to talk about his new book It's Not TV: The Spectacular Rise, Revolution, and Future of HBO and discuss the state of streaming, the relationship between sports and advertisers, and the decline of the movie theater industry.
In the Plus segment: YouTube.
Podcast production by Jessamine Molli.
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1/21/2023 • 57 minutes, 41 seconds
What Next TBD: An Antivax Dog Whistle Goes Viral
The idea that COVID-19 vaccines are linked to sudden deaths among young people has no scientific support, but the theory nevertheless has a lot of traction on social media.
How can public health officials educate the public—especially on subject like vaccines, where their effectiveness renders them effectively invisible?
Guest: Katelyn Jetelina, epidemiologist and data scientist
Host: Lizzie O’Leary
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1/20/2023 • 32 minutes, 37 seconds
What Next TBD: Tesla’s No Good, Very Bad Year
Elon Musk was promising an “epic” Q4 at Tesla last year. But 2022 ended closer to what might be considered an “epic fail,” with the stock price down 65 percent. In an uncertain economic environment like this one, how much blame goes to Musk for unloading $40 billion worth of stock and focusing on his shiny new social media network? Or are these just growing pains that every company goes through as they mature?
Guest: Dana Hull, automotive and technology reporter for Bloomberg News in San Francisco
Host: Lizzie O’Leary
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1/15/2023 • 34 minutes, 37 seconds
Slate Money: Is Inflation Ova?
This week Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers discuss how the avian flu has skyrocketed egg prices, even as inflation continues to plateau. They also talk about the ongoing controversy over gas stoves and scrutinize a recent article about Columbia Business School’s new campus.
In the plus segment: Noma, an extravagant restaurant in Copenhagen hailed as the world’s best restaurant, is closing. What does that say about that status of “fine dining”?
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1/14/2023 • 47 minutes, 37 seconds
What Next TBD: Why the Feds Want to Kill Noncompetes
You might think of noncompete agreements as mostly limited to highly skilled, highly paid tech workers to protect trade secrets. But one-third of workers bound by noncompetes make $13/hour or less: fast-food workers, security guards, and the like.
Noncompete clauses not only give employers leverage over their employees—both during and after their employment—but studies have shown the agreements are a weight on the economy, which is why the FTC is angling for a federal ban.
Guest: Elizabeth Wilkins, director of the Office of Policy Planning, Federal Trade Commission
Host: Lizzie O’Leary
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1/13/2023 • 25 minutes, 12 seconds
The Waves: Who’s Getting Rich Off Menopause?
On this week’s episode of The Waves, Slate Money co-host Emily Peck is joined by New York Times writer, Amy Larocca to discuss, as Amy says, the “menopause gold rush.” They dig into when exactly menopause starts, how younger women embracing their bodies has trickled up to their moms, and the companies that have started aggressively targeting menopausal women - for better and for worse.
In Slate Plus, how telehealth and online medicine have changed the menopause game.
Podcast production by Cheyna Roth with editorial oversight by Daisy Rosario and Alicia Montgomery.
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1/12/2023 • 37 minutes, 19 seconds
What Next TBD: How War in Taiwan Could Short-Circuit U.S. Tech
Roughly 95 percent of advanced semiconductor chip manufacturing happens in Taiwan, leaving the U.S. vulnerable to supply chain shocks and national security threats. Is the Biden administration’s $280 billion bill, signed in August last year, enough to boost domestic chip manufacturing?
Guest: Don Clark, freelance reporter specializing on chips and enterprise tech.
Host: Emily Peck
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1/8/2023 • 28 minutes, 41 seconds
Slate Money: Burning Platforms
This week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers discuss the FTC’s proposed non-compete ban, the bank run at Silvergate, and the cause of Southwest’s absolute meltdown this holiday season.
In the Plus segment: E-bikes.
Podcast production by Jessamine Molli.
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1/7/2023 • 44 minutes, 13 seconds
Sponsored: How Can We Stay Resilient and Move Toward What Matters?
Challenging times are inevitable — but they're not impossible to overcome. This episode explores the core skills we can build to help us power through tough moments in business and in life.
First, Jacqui Brassey, co-leader at the McKinsey Health Institute, draws on her expertise in business and neuroscience to share the core skills leaders need to succeed: adaptability, learning agility, self-awareness, and emotional self-regulation.
Then, Tony Geraci, broker and owner of the CENTURY 21 HomeStar, discusses how moments of uncertainty can actually be a blessing in disguise for leaders and entrepreneurs alike.
Guests
Jacqui Brassey: Co-leader at the McKinsey Health Institute, Senior Expert in People & Organizational Performance
Tony Geraci: Broker & Owner of CENTURY 21 HomeStar
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1/6/2023 • 35 minutes, 7 seconds
What Next TBD: Will Southwest Be Held Accountable?
Over the holidays, thousands of passengers were left stranded or delayed when Southwest Airline’s outdated re-booking software broke down. Who can be held accountable, and why don’t airlines invest more in their own infrastructure?
Guest: Heather Tal Murphy, business and technology reporter for Slate.
Host: Mary C. Curtis
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1/6/2023 • 31 minutes, 47 seconds
Slate Money: The 2022 Markets Wrap-Up
In this New Year’s Eve special, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers are joined by Ritholtz Wealth Management CEO Josh Brown to discuss all things markets.
Podcast production by Anna Phillips.
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12/31/2022 • 52 minutes, 42 seconds
Slate Money: In Defense of Nepotism
This week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers discuss the proposed changes to retirement plans in Congress’s 2023 spending bill. They also talk about the current boom in cocaine production and debate whether or not nepotism is as bad as everyone says.
In the Plus segment: Felix, Emily, and Elizabeth admit what they each got wrong about 2022.
Podcast production by Anna Phillips.
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12/24/2022 • 53 minutes, 23 seconds
What Next TBD: One Year - 1942: The Most Hated Man in America
At the beginning of World War II, the greatest threat to the American war effort wasn’t the Nazis or the Japanese—it was runaway inflation. The man in charge of stopping it was the country’s “price czar,” Leon Henderson. In 1942, he controlled how much coffee ordinary people could drink and how many tires they could buy. Those rules made him a nationwide villain. But would they save the country?
One Year is produced by Evan Chung, Sophie Summergrad, Sam Kim, and Josh Levin.
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12/23/2022 • 48 minutes, 45 seconds
What Next TBD: Are You Ready For Lab-Grown Meat?
The Food and Drug Administration gave an important thumbs up to lab-grown chicken, which means we could start seeing it in stores as soon as next year. While billions of dollars have been spent developing lab-grown meat, important questions remain: Is the production of it actually greener than raising livestock? Can it be made affordably? Is it healthy? And will anyone eat it?
Guest: Chloe Sorvino, staff writer on food and agriculture at Forbes, and the author of Raw Deal: Hidden Corruption, Corporate Greed and the Fight for the Future of Meat.
Host: Lizzie O’Leary
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12/18/2022 • 34 minutes, 9 seconds
Slate Money: Should You Care About the Dot Plot?
This week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers explain what the Fed’s interest rate dot plot means. They also talk about Microsoft’s attempted acquisition of video game developer Activision, and the latest details of the SBF scandal.
In the Plus segment: the revival of the office holiday party.
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12/17/2022 • 53 minutes, 34 seconds
What Next TBD: SBF's Worst Week Yet
Even in a crazy year for crypto, Sam Bankman-Fried’s story is undeniably the most bananas. And even in the context of the implosion of FTX, getting arrested has got to make this week his worst yet. What charges does SBF face?
Guest: Stacy-Marie Ishmael, managing editor on crypto for Bloomberg News
Host: Lizzie O’Leary
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12/16/2022 • 40 minutes, 26 seconds
What Next TBD: San Francisco’s Self-Driving Mess
Self-driving cars and robotaxis are starting to appear on the streets of San Francisco. While we have a whole regulatory system in place for drivers, who’s making sure these new cars are safe?
Guest: David Zipper, Visiting Fellow at the Harvard Kennedy School's Taubman Center for State and Local Government
Host: Lizzie O’Leary
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12/11/2022 • 31 minutes, 51 seconds
Sponsored: How Can Quitting Be a Fearless Move on the Pathway to Success?
We’ve all heard the saying: winners never quit and quitters never win. But what if it turns out they do? In this episode, Kristen is joined by two fearless guests who are reshaping the way we think about quitting.
First, she sits down with Annie Duke, a former professional poker player, bestselling author, and sought after consultant in the decision-making space. Throughout her career, Annie has achieved great success by knowing when to walk away — her $4 million in tournament winnings certainly proves that! Annie shares her unconventional wisdom about quitting, and why having the courage to do it can help us reach our goals faster.
Later in the episode, you’ll hear from Esther Mireya Tejeda, Chief Marketing Officer at Anywhere Real Estate Inc. She talks about not being afraid to pivot away from ideas that aren’t working and try new things in order to transform companies into the best versions of themselves.
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Annie Duke: Former Professional Poker Player, Decision-Making Strategist, and Author
Esther Mireya Tejeda: Chief Marketing Officer at Anywhere Real Estate Inc.
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12/10/2022 • 41 minutes, 17 seconds
Slate Money: The NYT Strike: End of the Wordle Streak
This week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers talk about the Trump Organization’s tax fraud conviction, why workers at The New York Times went on strike and ChatGPT, a shockingly articulate AI chatbot.
In the Plus segment: How to tackle holiday gifting.
Podcast production by Anna Phillips.
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12/10/2022 • 51 minutes, 47 seconds
What Next TBD: Let’s Talk, Chatbots
Artificial intelligence is growing in leaps and bounds, and everywhere from Big Tech companies like Google to small teams like OpenAI are developing more and more convincing chatbots. Is the world ready for convincing, talking computers?
Guest: Alex Kantrowitz, host of the Big Technology podcast.
Host: Emily Peck
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12/9/2022 • 34 minutes, 23 seconds
What Next TBD: Big Tech’s Boogeymen In Washington
The Biden administration’s Department of Justice and Federal Trade Commission are both staffed with accomplished progressives who are proving more aggressive than their predecessors in either the Trump or Obama eras. But can Big Tech be tamed?
Guest: Leah Nylen, reporter for Bloomberg News
Host: Lizzie O’Leary
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12/4/2022 • 40 minutes, 1 second
Slate Money: The Tale of Two Bobs
This week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers talk about the CEO shakeup at Disney, shrinkflation, and Sam Bankman-Fried’s unusual post-scandal media appearances.
In the Plus segment: the controversy over Balenciaga’s new ad campaign.
Podcast production by Anna Phillips.
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12/3/2022 • 55 minutes, 49 seconds
What Next TBD: Twitter's Vulnerabilities, Exposed
Dating back to the Arab Spring, Twitter’s potential for real-time organizing has been a selling point. But trying to find information on China’s “Zero COVID” protests reveals just how vulnerable the now-understaffed platform is to manipulation.
Guest: Joseph Menn, cybersecurity reporter for the Washington Post.
Host: Lizzie O’Leary
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12/2/2022 • 32 minutes, 14 seconds
How To!: Know When to Quit Your Job
Victor’s job—at its core—is to change the world. But he feels like he’s plateaued within his large humanitarian and development organization, and is now on the verge of jumping ship. On this episode of How To!, Annie Duke, author of Quit: The Power Of Knowing When to Walk Away, helps Victor decide if he should recommit to his current job or move on to something else. She explains the cognitive biases that prevent us from quitting and reveals why most of us quit things far too late.
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11/29/2022 • 40 minutes, 5 seconds
What Next TBD: The Trap of Buy Now, Pay Later
The option to “buy now and pay later” over installments exploded over the past two years, thanks to people being flush with stimulus cash and shopping online during the pandemic. But is this new, underregulated industry a useful line of credit or another path into debt?
Guest: Paulina Cachero, personal finance reporter for Bloomberg.
Host: Lizzie O’Leary
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11/27/2022 • 34 minutes, 43 seconds
Slate Money: Fleishman is in Trouble
This week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers are joined by New York Times Magazine writer and Fleishman is in Trouble author Taffy Brodesser-Akner to talk about wealth, class and the media industry, specifically through the lens of the Fleishman is in Trouble book and new limited TV series.
In the Plus segment: what is everyone thankful for this Thanksgiving?
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11/26/2022 • 41 minutes, 31 seconds
What Next TBD: The End of the Tech Boom
After decades as America’s booming industry, tens of thousands of tech workers have been laid off in November alone. Is the venture-capital, low-interest-rate wind leaving the sails temporary or is this the end of the hunt for “the next big thing?”
Guest: Timothy B. Lee, reporter for Full Stack Economics covering labor markets, technology, and housing.
Host: Lizzie O’Leary
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11/20/2022 • 31 minutes, 10 seconds
Slate Money: Enron 2
This week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers discuss updates in the collapse of crypto exchange platform FTX and how the situation compares to past business downfalls. They also talk about Joan Didion’s estate sale.
In the Plus segment: the death of Twitter.
Podcast production by Anna Phillips.
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11/19/2022 • 1 hour, 42 seconds
ICYMI: What's Going to Happen to Twitter?
On today’s episode, Rachelle is joined by Lizzie O’Leary, the host of Slate’s tech podcast What Next: TBD. The two discuss Elon Musk’s takeover of Twitter, whether or not Musk has broken any laws and what the future of the platform might look like.
This podcast is produced by Daniel Schroeder, Daisy Rosario, Emily Charash and Rachelle Hampton.
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11/19/2022 • 42 minutes, 41 seconds
What Next TBD: The Case Against Climate Reparations
At this year’s annual UN conference on climate change, they are discussing “climate reparations,” wherein the rich countries that grew their wealth burning fossil fuels pay money to poorer and more vulnerable countries. It sounds sensible, but is the UN capable of administering something like this? And how much money are we talking here?
Guest: Vijay Vaitheeswaran, global energy and climate innovation editor at The Economist.
Host: Lizzie O’Leary
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11/18/2022 • 33 minutes, 10 seconds
What Next TBD: Is This The Cryptocalypse?
The (once) second-largest cryptocurrency exchange, FTX, collapsed in stunning fashion this week, highlighting why consumers really do want regulation, and why old financial institutions remain wary of crypto.
Guest: Felix Salmon, host of Slate Money, chief financial correspondent for Axios.
Host: Lizzie O’Leary
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11/13/2022 • 33 minutes, 20 seconds
Slate Money: WTF SBF
This week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and What Next TBD host Lizzie O’Leary discuss the ongoing disaster at crypto exchange platform FTX. They also talk about the slightly smaller meltdowns at Twitter and Meta.
In the Plus segment: the sale of Paul Allen’s art collection.
Podcast production by Anna Phillips.
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11/12/2022 • 57 minutes, 57 seconds
What Next TBD: Senator Chris Murphy on Elon's Acquisition of Twitter
The second largest investor in Twitter, after Elon Musk, is the Saudis, which raises questions about what kinds of “free speech” Musk is really committed to. But it also raises questions around national security in the U.S.
Guest: Chris Murphy, U.S. Senator from Connecticut
Host: Lizzie O’Leary
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11/11/2022 • 22 minutes, 5 seconds
What Next TBD: Why Are So Many Little Kids Sick Right Now?
It’s been a rough autumn for parents of little kids, as non-COVID respiratory diseases are taking advantage of the first fall since 2019 where schools and daycares are full again, and America’s strained pediatric health care system is once again put to the test.
Guest: Katherine Wu, science writer for The Atlantic.
Host: Lizzie O’Leary.
Podcast production by Madeline Ducharme.
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11/6/2022 • 28 minutes, 3 seconds
Slate Money: Homecoming
This week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers are joined by Financial Times columnist and editor Rana Foroohar to discuss her new book, Homecoming: The Path to Prosperity in a Post-Global World.
In the Plus segment: What’s the deal with workplace surveillance?
Podcast production by Anna Phillips.
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11/5/2022 • 1 hour, 5 seconds
What Next TBD: So How’s It Going, Elon?
One week in as head honcho of Twitter and Elon Musk is in a tight spot: how do you balance the desires of advertisers with your ostensible zeal for free speech? How do you make something for which you’ve already overpaid turn a profit? How do you convince Stephen King to pony up for a blue check?
Guest: Alex Kirshner, contributing writer at Slate.
Host: Lizzie O’Leary
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11/4/2022 • 31 minutes, 51 seconds
Slate Money: Memelord Takeover
This week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers are joined by Bloomberg Opinion columnist Matt Levine to talk about his Bloomberg Businessweek article The Crypto Story. They also discuss Elon Musk finally closing his Twitter deal and restructuring at Credit Suisse.
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10/29/2022 • 55 minutes, 53 seconds
What Next TBD: Twitter Is Dead; Long Live Twitter
Twitter has been a lot of things—where you posted your lunch, where you met your people, where you were subjected to a harassment campaign. Now, as Elon Musk prepares to take the reins, where is it headed?
Guest: Will Oremus, technology reporter for the Washington Post.
Host: Lizzie O’Leary
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10/28/2022 • 42 minutes, 41 seconds
How To!: Put Your Town on the Map
If you’ve ever vacationed on the beaches of Delaware, chances are you drove right by Smyrna. It’s a small but charming town that’s been bypassed by the main highways. Which is why Mike, a small business owner on the town council, wants to create a spectacular, engaging roadside attraction to tempt tourists into town. The only snag? He doesn’t know what to actually build.
On this episode of How To!, we bring on roadside attraction aficionado Erika Nelson. She’s the creator of The World’s Largest Collection of the World’s Smallest Versions of the World’s Largest Things. She’s also an artist who helps towns like Smyrna develop their own car-stopping attractions. She decodes the magic of the most wondrous roadside attractions and explains why hosting a Guinness world record-holding object is not the only key to success. You also have to tell a good story.
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10/25/2022 • 36 minutes, 59 seconds
Slate Money: Meet Me by the Fountain
This week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers are joined by design critic Alexandra Lange to talk about her book Meet Me by the Fountain: An Inside History of the Mall on the evolution of shopping malls in America.
In the Plus segment: How online shopping has affected malls.
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10/22/2022 • 52 minutes, 40 seconds
ICYMI: What’s It Like Being a Twitch Streamer?
A lot has been happening around Twitch, a platform that really seems to live in its own world on the internet. On today’s show, Rachelle is joined by Gita Jackson who explains exactly why Twitch can feel so insular even though the audience is enormous. They also talk about the poorly planned TwitchCon, and the horrible things that have led streamer Amouranth to take a break from the site.
This podcast is produced by Daniel Schroeder, Rachelle Hampton, and Daisy Rosario.
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10/22/2022 • 39 minutes, 11 seconds
What Next TBD: When An Algorithm Raises Your Rent
One company’s software is helping set prices for apartments across the country. But when does an algorithm telling landlords how much to charge—by drawing on property data—cross the line from “handy tool” to “illegal price-fixing”?
Guest: Heather Vogell, reporter with ProPublica
Host: Lizzie O'Leary
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10/21/2022 • 34 minutes, 23 seconds
What Next TBD: Are You Ready to Be Composted When You Die?
The idea of composting a human body may seem unsettling—or even gross—and it runs counter to the normal American funeral rites of embalming and internment, which preserve the body. But advocates say it’s a greener and more peaceful way to return our bodies to the Earth.
Guest: Eleanor Cummins, science journalist
Host: Lizzie O’Leary
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10/16/2022 • 32 minutes, 55 seconds
Slate Money: We Can’t Quit Elon
This week, Emily Peck, Elizabeth Spiers and guest host Ed Lee discuss inflation, the first policymaker to win an economics Nobel Prize, and begrudgingly, updates in the Elon Musk Twitter saga.
In the Plus segment: introducing a new anti-woke bank.
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10/15/2022 • 48 minutes, 15 seconds
What Next TBD: The Next Amazon Union Fight
Following their victory in Staten Island, the Amazon Labor Union is still facing an uphill battle. Both the company and the union are closely watching the organizing vote at a warehouse outside of Albany, NY.
Guest: Noam Scheiber, labor reporter for the New York Times.
Host: Lizzie O'Leary
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10/14/2022 • 31 minutes, 8 seconds
What Next TBD: When Your Church Surveils Your Phone
Churches are using accountability apps to keep tabs on their members' behavior. But if your pastor wants to monitor your phone, can you truly consent?
Guest: Dhruv Mehrotra
Host: Lizzie O'Leary
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10/9/2022 • 24 minutes, 31 seconds
Slate Money: Felix Learns What A Condo Is
This week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers are joined by housing market analyst and real estate appraiser Jonathan Miller to answer all their burning real estate questions including what’s going on with mortgage rates, how do new luxury buildings affect prices, and why is rent so damn high?
In the Plus segment: Why do people want so much space?
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10/8/2022 • 57 minutes, 44 seconds
What Next TBD: Could the Supreme Court Kill the Internet As We Know It?
Twenty-six words defined the internet as we know it today. What happens if they’re deleted?
Guest: Jeff Kosseff
Host: Lizzie O'Leary
The Twenty-Six Words That Created the Internet
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10/7/2022 • 30 minutes, 28 seconds
What Next: Congress Can't Quit the Stock Market
A bipartisan effort to prevent members of Congress from trading stock while in office is wildly popular. But so far, no such bill has gained much traction on Capitol Hill. Why?
Guest: Sam Brodey, congressional reporter for The Daily Beast.
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10/5/2022 • 26 minutes, 34 seconds
What Next TBD: The Philosopher With Silicon Valley's Ear
Longtermism, the idea that positively influencing the future is a key moral priority of our time, is hot in Silicon Valley. But does it miss the bigger picture?
Guests: William MacAskill, Robert Wright
Host: Lizzie O'Leary
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10/2/2022 • 58 minutes, 25 seconds
Slate Money: Skandal!
This week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers are joined by Dan McCrum of the Financial Times to discuss the economic crisis in the UK, Skandal! Bringing Down Wirecard, the Netflix adaptation of his recent book, and the 10-year-old who is selling paintings for six figures.
In the Plus segment: Porsche’s IPO
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10/1/2022 • 51 minutes, 16 seconds
The Waves: Student Debt Relief is Feminist
On this week’s episode of The Waves, Lizzie O'Leary host of What Next: TBD is joined by Emily Peck co-host of Slate Money to explain the new Student Debt Relief Plan. They delve into the reason women often carry more debt on average and why they stand to benefit the most from even modest relief. Then, Lizzie and Emily unpack debt-relief criticism itself, what Biden’s plan does well, and where it could improve.
In Slate Plus, some hard-hitting, in-depth analysis on whether or not laundry-folding is feminist.
Recommendations
Lizzie: Crime thriller Girl, Forgotten by author Karin Slaughter
Emily: She-Hulk: Attorney at Law from Marvel and Disney+
Podcast production by Cheyna Roth with editorial oversight by Shannon Palus, Daisy Rosario and Alicia Montgomery. With production help from Anna Rubanova.
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9/30/2022 • 29 minutes, 2 seconds
What Next TBD: When Climate Change Makes You Sell Your House
With disaster relief funds from Hurricane Harvey, Houston's Harris County instituted a mandatory buyout program for residents in flood-prone areas. But some residents didn't want to leave.
Guest: Amal Ahmed, Dolores Mendoza
Host: Mary C. Curtis
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9/30/2022 • 28 minutes, 18 seconds
What Next TBD: Can Nuclear Power Be Green?
Nuclear technology has become more important than ever, thanks to a global energy crisis and climate change. But it also has a complicated history.
Guest: Joshua Keating
Host: Lizzie O'Leary
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9/25/2022 • 26 minutes, 33 seconds
Slate Money: First Class Food Fomo
This week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers discuss the sale of Citrix, Barbados’ Blue Bonds, and how fancy food could save airlines.
In the Plus segment: The economics of timeshares.
Podcast production by Jessamine Molli.
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9/24/2022 • 43 minutes, 41 seconds
What Next TBD: The Fight Over Online Speech Headed to the Supreme Court
Conservative lawmakers in Florida and Texas are taking aim at content moderation on social media, with implications that go far beyond just the platforms.
Guest: Mark Joseph Stern
Host: Lizzie O'Leary
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9/23/2022 • 33 minutes, 13 seconds
How To!: Pick a College (And Actually Afford It)
College application season is approaching fast—too fast—for 16-yr old Maya and her mother, Melissa. The problem? Maya has no idea where to go or what to study. It doesn’t help that there are thousands of schools to choose from, and little transparency about their true cost. On this episode of How To!, we bring on Ron Lieber, New York Times money columnist and author of The Price You Pay for College. He shows Maya how to narrow down the list of potential colleges by asking insightful questions of the schools and, ultimately, yourself. Then he talks to Melissa about how to pay for it without harming the rest of the family’s finances.
Ron’s questions for parents:
What do you remember your parent or parents saying to you the first time they talked about what college would cost and what, if anything, they would pay?
Or if there was silence around the topic of paying for college, what did it speak?
How much was your parent or your parents willing to pay for your education? How did you feel about that?
If your parents paid your way, is it possible that you should not feel obligated to do the same, given how much the world has changed?
And if your parents paid nothing, have you asked yourself whether 15 years of extreme thrift starting now (or going deep into debt 15 years from now to pay for your child’s first-choice college) may not erase whatever pain lingers from that period long ago -- or may create new conflict with your spouse and kids?
How much might you be willing to borrow -- or delay repayment of your own student loans?
How long are you willing to delay retirement to meet this goal?
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9/20/2022 • 38 minutes, 29 seconds
What Next TBD: The Hidden Abuse Behind Those Spam Texts You're Getting
Victims of a new and high tech kind of human trafficking are forced to scam people all around the world.
Guest: Cezary Podkul
Host: Lizzie O'Leary
Human Trafficking’s Newest Abuse: Forcing Victims Into Cyberscamming
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9/18/2022 • 31 minutes, 3 seconds
Slate Money: It's All Paul Newman’s Fault
This week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers discuss the tax implications of Patagonia’s founder giving the company a climate change nonprofit, the US railroad strike that almost was, and Adobe’s acquisition of Figma.
In the Plus segment: Farm shares
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9/17/2022 • 53 minutes, 43 seconds
What Next TBD: How Big Internet Keeps Small Communities Disconnected
A small parish in Louisiana tried to get affordable, fast internet. An incumbent ISP stopped them.
Guest: Issie Lapowsky, Wanda Manning
Host: Lizzie O'Leary
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9/16/2022 • 27 minutes, 46 seconds
How To!: Make the Leap to Your Dream Job
When Trish first started working in corporate recruiting, she had wonderful co-workers, a supportive manager, opportunities for growth—it was “bliss.” But the bliss evaporated in 2020 when she got laid off during the pandemic. She’s since found a different job in the same field, but also decided to try her hand at teaching pilates part-time. Now, after burning the candle at both ends, Trish is burned out and unsure of the best path forward. On this episode of How To!, we bring on Nathan and Susannah Furr, authors of The Upside of Uncertainty. They have some useful tools to help Trish—and all of us—find our footing in uncertain times.
If you liked this episode, check out: “How To Bounce Back From Burnout” and “How To Advance Your Career by Quitting Your Job.”
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9/13/2022 • 39 minutes, 2 seconds
What Next TBD: The Chaos That Made YouTube a Juggernaut
An inside look at the rise of YouTube into a social media behemoth.
Guests: Mark Bergen and Claire Stapleton
Host: Lizzie O'Leary
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9/11/2022 • 35 minutes, 8 seconds
Slate Money: DWAC SPAC Setback
This week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers discuss England’s late queen and new prime minister, the troubles of DWAC’s SPAC, and the demise of girlboss hangout The Wing.
In the Plus segment: Citibank’s victory.
Podcast production by Jessamine Molli.
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9/10/2022 • 48 minutes, 34 seconds
What Next TBD: Can A.I. Make Great Art?
Technology is transforming the creative economy and ideas about what "art" even is.
Guest: Drew Harwell
Host: Lizzie O'Leary
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9/9/2022 • 29 minutes, 10 seconds
What Next TBD: The Summer Vaccine of the Future
LYMErix, the first vaccine against Lyme, was pulled from the market amid poor sales and pressure from the public. Now, over 20 years later, a new vaccine is in late-stage trials.
Guest: Cassandra Willyard
Host: Lizzie O'Leary
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9/4/2022 • 20 minutes, 55 seconds
Slate Money: Quiet Quitting
This week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers discuss the reasons behind the current labor shortage, the concept of “quiet quitting”, and the proposed fast-food labor council in California.
In the Plus segment: Stacy-Marie Ishmael returns to talk about Michael Saylor’s alleged tax evasion.
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9/3/2022 • 45 minutes, 7 seconds
What Next TBD: A.I. Made to Fight Child Porn Ensnared an Innocent Dad
A father took a photo of his son for their doctor. He wound up being investigated by the police.
Guest: Kashmir Hill
Host: Lizzie O'Leary
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9/2/2022 • 28 minutes, 58 seconds
How To!: Unbreak the News
About five or six years ago, host Amanda Ripley started noticing that her normal news diet left her feeling depleted and depressed. She tried mixing up her news habits, even avoiding it for awhile, but nothing helped. It felt like a shameful secret. Shouldn’t journalists love consuming the news? She began to wonder, is it me....or is it the news itself? On this episode of How To!, the first of two parts, we’ll hear from several of our listeners who feel the same way. We’ll also talk with Nicole Lewis, Senior Editor of Jurisprudence at Slate, and a longtime reporter on the criminal justice beat; and David Bornstein, co-founder/CEO of the Solutions Journalism Network, and former contributor to the New York Times’ Fixes column. Together they’ll discuss how the news became so broken, and how we can put it back together again.
Resources:
Solutions Story Tracker®
Fear of Rampant Crime Is Derailing New York City’s Recovery by Fola Akinnibi and Raeedah Wahid
I stopped reading the news. Is the problem me — or the product? by Amanda Ripley
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8/30/2022 • 38 minutes, 58 seconds
What Next TBD: The Streaming TV Bloodbath
Shows are disappearing. Staff are getting axed. Is It greed, or necessary for the networks' survival?
Guest: Julia Alexander
Host: Lizzie O'Leary
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8/28/2022 • 28 minutes, 57 seconds
Slate Money: APE
This week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers discuss the Biden administration student loan debt forgiveness plan, the cancellation saga of Dan Price, and AMC’s “APE units”.
In the Plus segment: More on student loan debt forgiveness.
Podcast production by Jessamine Molli.
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8/27/2022 • 48 minutes, 59 seconds
What Next TBD: The Hacker Blowing the Whistle on Twitter
Legendary hacker Peiter "Mudge" Zatko’s reputation in the cybersecurity world is unmatched. His allegations against Twitter’s security are all the more damning because of it.
Guest: Joseph Menn
Host: Lizzie O'Leary
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8/26/2022 • 35 minutes, 23 seconds
What Next TBD: We're Expecting the Wrong Things From the CDC
There's no way to remove politics from public health.
Guest: Tim Requarth
Host: Lizzie O'Leary
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8/21/2022 • 28 minutes, 55 seconds
Slate Money: What is Flow?
This week, Felix Salmon, and Elizabeth Spiers are joined by Eric Newcomer to discuss his piece on Marc Andreessen’s surprising choice to back Adam Neumann’s new company Flow, the current VC landscape, and Bed, Bath & Beyond’s wild meme-stock moment.
In the Plus segment: Eric’s interview with Uber’s former business chief.
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8/20/2022 • 47 minutes, 18 seconds
What Next TBD: What All That Money for Green Tech in the Climate Bill Is Buying
The Inflation Reduction Act is spurring progress towards new climate technology that, at times, sounds like something out of a science fiction movie. Will it make a dent in the fight against climate change?
Guest: Pranshu Verma
Host: Lizzie O'Leary
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8/19/2022 • 27 minutes, 51 seconds
What Next: The Red States Punishing Green Businesses
State treasurers in red states have been banding together to punish companies that are trying to divest themselves from the fossil fuel industry. But it isn’t clear if, say, BlackRock needs West Virginia more than West Virginia needs BlackRock. And this new front in the culture war may come with a bill that taxpayers have to pay.
Guest: David Gelles, correspondent on the Climate desk at The New York Times, covering the intersection of public policy and the private sector.
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8/18/2022 • 25 minutes, 9 seconds
What Next TBD: Big Pharma’s Bet on Psychedelics
The psychedelic renaissance is here. But not everyone’s on board.
Guest: John Semley
Host: Sonari Glinton
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8/14/2022 • 27 minutes, 30 seconds
Slate Money: Digital Banks are Doomed
This week, Felix Salmon, and Elizabeth Spiers are joined by Edmund Lee of the New York Times to discuss why it’s so hard to understand what inflation actually is, why Goldman Sach’s Marcus and other digital banks just aren’t working, and the surprising sale of Reorg for a cool $1.3 billion.
In the Plus segment: Elon Musk selling tons of his Tesla stock.
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8/13/2022 • 59 minutes, 44 seconds
What Next TBD: Crypto Could Leave Texas in the Dark
Crypto mining is booming in Texas. Will the power grid be able to handle it?
Guest: Russell Gold
Host: Sonari Glinton
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8/12/2022 • 27 minutes, 58 seconds
What Next: The New Era of Child Labor
With an ongoing labor shortage, companies turn to third-party labor brokers to fill jobs. But with little oversight and a surge of immigrants, the line between “ recruiter” and “ trafficker” gets blurred as vulnerable children are sent to work in dangerous conditions.
Guest: Mica Rosenberg, national immigration reporter for Reuters.
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8/8/2022 • 23 minutes, 54 seconds
What Next TBD: The Monkeypox Vaccine Monopoly
It makes intuitive sense for companies that develop a technology to hold its intellectual property rights. But in the case of vaccines and medical treatments, IP laws slow down manufacturing and distribution and give private companies the power to make huge decisions that affect public health globally.
Guest: Zain Rizvi, researcher for advocacy group Public Citizen, specializing in pharmaceutical innovation and access to medicine.
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8/7/2022 • 28 minutes, 45 seconds
Slate Money: Not For Sale…Yet
This week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers discuss the merging of HBOMax and Discovery+, a new study on the effect of abortion restrictions on women’s wages, and people paying to be on podcasts.
In the Plus segment: Lobster rolls.
Podcast production by Jessamine Molli.
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8/6/2022 • 39 minutes, 41 seconds
What Next TBD; The Homes We Forgot to Build a Decade Ago
The US has been in a housing shortage for decades. Can it ever be fixed?
Guest: Conor Dougherty
Host: Emily Peck
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8/5/2022 • 28 minutes, 33 seconds
How To!: Be an Artist and Not Starve
Elaine picked up watercolor painting during her two year, cross country RV adventure with her family. She quickly fell in love with gorgeous nature scenes and found the creative process meditative and healing. But now she’s wondering if her art could be something more. On this episode of How To!, multitalented artist Aaron Dworkin has tips for Elaine and other aspiring artists on how to live a ‘portfolio life’ by finding your signature style, following your passions and ultimately getting paid. He also shares insights for unlocking your creativity even if you don’t fancy yourself an artist.
If you liked this episode, check out “How To Write the Perfect Breakup Song with Ben Folds.”
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8/2/2022 • 39 minutes, 34 seconds
What Next TBD: The Dark Web of Online Spider Sales
Researchers have untangled a world of illicit trade that threatens ecosystems and endangers species.
Guest: Dr. Alice Hughes, Richard Stewart
Host: Lizzie O'Leary
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7/31/2022 • 22 minutes, 40 seconds
Slate Money: What Did Larry Say To Joe?
This week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers discuss the merits of the Inflation Reduction Act and Larry Summers’ role in moving it along, the low GDP numbers, and a listener question about corporate landlords.
In the Plus segment: This week’s Slate piece on the sham that is college financial aid.
Podcast production by Jessamine Molli.
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7/30/2022 • 46 minutes, 18 seconds
What Next TBD: Paging Dr. Bezos
In buying One Medical, Amazon is primed to be your doctor. Are they disrupting health care, or just collecting more data?
Guest: Rebecca Pifer
Host: Lizzie O'Leary
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7/29/2022 • 30 minutes, 36 seconds
ICYMI: What is "Hitting the Strip"?
On today’s show: more scams! Rachelle is joined by Daily Beast entertainment editor and former Slatester Allegra Frank; the two discuss the launch and social media rollout of the new multi-level marketing company Elomir. Later in the episode they examine how, despite the abundance of information on MLMs predatory nature, they still manage to pull people in.
This podcast is produced by Daniel Schroeder, Rachelle Hampton, Daisy Rosario and Kevin Bendis.
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7/27/2022 • 35 minutes, 15 seconds
Decoder Ring: The Mall is Dead (Long Live the Mall)
What do we lose if we lose the mall? 70 years into their existence, these hulking temples to commerce are surprisingly resilient and filled with contradictions. In this episode, Alexandra Lange, the author of the new book Meet Me at the Fountain: an Inside History of the Mall walks us through the atriums, escalators, and food courts of this singular suburban space. We also hear from mall-goers whose personal experiences help us make sense of this disdained yet beloved, disappearing yet surviving place.
This episode of Decoder Ring was written by Willa Paskin and produced by Willa Paskin and Katie Shepherd. Derek John is Sr. Supervising Producer of Narrative Podcasts. Merritt Jacob is our Technical Director.
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7/26/2022 • 45 minutes, 25 seconds
What Next TBD: Smart City: Dumb Idea?
Toronto’s Quayside project is a telling example of how smart cities have failed. Could it also show how to make them better?
Guest: Ben Green, Jennifer Keesmaat
Host: Lizzie O'Leary
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7/24/2022 • 29 minutes, 19 seconds
Slate Money: There Shouldn’t Be So Many Yachts
This week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers discuss Amazon’s acquisition of One Medical, the complications of start-ups offering loans to employees against their stock options, and Evan Osnos’ New Yorker article on the rise of the superyacht.
In the Plus segment: Why are Facebook and Instagram so bad now?
Podcast production by Jessamine Molli.
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7/23/2022 • 49 minutes, 26 seconds
What Next TBD: Europe Is Burning
The continent's deadly heat wave is only the tip of the melting iceberg.
Guest: Henry Grabar
Host: Lizzie O'Leary
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7/22/2022 • 28 minutes, 7 seconds
What Next TBD: Silicon Valley's Hidden Discrimination
Thenmozhi Soundararajan was scheduled to give a talk at Google for Dalit History Month. It led to vicious attacks against her from some of its employees.
Guest: Thenmozhi Soundararajan
Host: Lizzie O'Leary
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7/17/2022 • 25 minutes, 15 seconds
Slate Money: Multibillionaire Toddler
This week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers discuss Elon Musk vs Twitter, the big banks getting big texting fines, and the ethically questionable academic study funded by Uber.
In the Plus segment: The Gates Foundation
Podcast production by Jessamine Molli.
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7/16/2022 • 53 minutes, 13 seconds
What Next TBD: Can Twitter Sue Elon Musk Into Submission?
Dysfunction is nothing new to Twitter. But Elon Musk pulling his offer to buy the company adds a new layer of chaos.
Guest: Alex Kantrowitz
Host: Lizzie O'Leary
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7/15/2022 • 29 minutes, 33 seconds
What Next TBD: Paxlovid's Mysteries
There's still a lot unknown about COVID's new wonder drug.
Guest: Rachel Gutman-Wei
Host: Lizzie O'Leary
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7/10/2022 • 26 minutes, 26 seconds
Slate Money: Them's The Breaks
This week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers discuss this week’s good jobs report versus the bad economic vibes, Boris Johnson’s ousting as Prime Minister, and the stark decline in the quality of air travel.
In the Plus segment: What are the odds that two former FBI directors would be audited?
Podcast production by Jessamine Molli.
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7/9/2022 • 53 minutes, 34 seconds
What Next TBD: Can FEMA Keep Up With Climate Change?
Climate change is causing unprecedented severe weather. Is the agency prepared for it to get worse?
Guest: Craig Fugate and Ashley Nerbovig
Host: Lizzie O'Leary
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7/8/2022 • 28 minutes, 48 seconds
What Next TBD: The Good Hackers
According to the Justice Department, there’s a right way — and a wrong way — to be a hacker.
Guest: Josephine Wolff
Host: Lizzie O'Leary
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7/3/2022 • 25 minutes, 37 seconds
ICYMI: Daily Harvest Is Crumbling
In the past month, customers of the meal delivery service Daily Harvest have been suffering from gastrointestinal distress after eating the company’s French Lentil + Leek Crumbles, and some have even required surgery. The company is currently investigating the cause of these medical issues but has yet to find anything conclusive. On today’s show, Rachelle and Madison speak to Luke Pearson, an influencer who received the product in a PR package from Daily Harvest and has since had to have his gallbladder removed. They discuss his medical journey, what it was like finding a community online that was also suffering from these problems, and how it’s affected his future plans for brand partnerships.
This podcast is produced by Daniel Schroeder, Rachelle Hampton, and Madison Malone Kircher.
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7/2/2022 • 31 minutes, 16 seconds
Slate Money: RIP Coupons
This week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers discuss the repercussions of states banning abortions, Lydia DePillis’ piece in The New York Times about the decline of coupons, and the artworld scandal over some fake some Jean-Michel Basquiat paintings.
In the Plus segment: Stores have too much stuff and no one is buying it.
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7/2/2022 • 42 minutes, 59 seconds
What Next TBD: TikTok’s Mental Health Influencers
Social media makes mental health information accessible. But it's not a perfect solution.
Guest: Lindsay Lee Wallace
Host: Mary C. Curtis
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7/1/2022 • 30 minutes, 14 seconds
What Next TBD: Does Crypto Investment Need to Be Regulated?
Fidelity made headlines when they announced you could invest your retirement savings in Bitcoin. Then the crypto market crashed.
Guest: Anthony Lee Zhang
Host: Sonari Glinton
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6/26/2022 • 22 minutes, 11 seconds
What Next TBD: Can the Law Keep Up With the Internet?
The openness of the internet is its greatest strength. Or a glaring weakness, depending on who you ask. Does something need to change?
Guest: Jared Schroeder
Host: Sonari Glinton
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6/24/2022 • 25 minutes, 31 seconds
Slate Money: Bubblicious Crypto
This week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers discuss the Fed raising interest rates by 75 basis points, the crypto crash, and Revlon filing for bankruptcy.
In the Plus segment: Kraken
Podcast production by Jessamine Molli.
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6/18/2022 • 51 minutes, 40 seconds
What Next TBD: Sheryl Sandberg’s Complicated Legacy
She wanted to be an icon for working women. What went wrong?
Guest: Sheera Frenkel
Host: Lizzie O'Leary
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6/12/2022 • 28 minutes, 31 seconds
Slate Money: Bad Vibes Economics
This week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers discuss everyone’s premature bad vibes about the economy right now, financial literacy programs in high schools, and Larry Ellison’s Hawaiian island.
Podcast production by Jessamine Molli.
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6/11/2022 • 50 minutes, 28 seconds
What Next TBD: Is Elon Musk Any Good at Business?
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6/5/2022 • 28 minutes, 12 seconds
Slate Money: Happy Platy Jubes!
This week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers discuss Sheryl Sandberg’s exit from Meta, how the war in Ukraine is affecting the international food supply, and Queen Elizabeth’s Platy Jubes.
In the Plus segment: Emily nerds out on the CPI
Podcast production by Jessamine Molli.
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6/4/2022 • 40 minutes, 20 seconds
What Next TBD: Can an Algorithm Spot a Shooter?
Schools have spent millions to detect threats online. It mostly doesn’t work.
Guest: Arijit Sen
Host: Lizzie O'Leary
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6/3/2022 • 23 minutes, 43 seconds
Slate Money: The Man Who Broke Capitalism
This week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers talk to David Gelles of the New York Times about his new book The Man Who Broke Capitalism: How Jack Welch Gutted the Heartland and Crushed the Soul of Corporate America—and How to Undo His Legacy. They discuss the infamous former CEO of GE and his lasting negative effect on the American corporate landscape.
In the Plus segment: More with David Gelles.
Podcast production by Jessamine Molli.
David Gelles is an author and a correspondent on the Climate desk at the New York Times.
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5/28/2022 • 1 hour, 38 seconds
Decoder Ring: The Sideways Effect
In 2004, the indie flick Sideways was released in just four theaters, but it had a big impact, earning five Oscar nominations and $110 million worldwide. “I thought it was just going to be a nice little comedy,” filmmaker Alexander Payne tells us. Instead, the movie became known for something else so notable that it has a name: The Sideways Effect.
In this episode, we explore all the outsized effects of this one little movie on the huge wine industry. Did a single line of dialogue really tank merlot sales for decades? Did an ode to pinot noir jumpstart demand for this expensive grape? Did Paul Giamatti’s sad sack character change our relationship to yet another wine, one that was barely mentioned in the film?
Today on Decoder Ring, all of these questions and this one: Is it long past time to start drinking merlot?
Some of the voices in this episode include Laura Lippmann, crime novelist; Tim Farrell, wine buyer for Brooklyn Wine Exchange; Rex Pickett, novelist and author of ‘Sideways,’ Alexander Payne, director, screenwriter, and producer; Jeff Bundschu, owner of Gundlach Bundschu; Steve Cuellar, professor of economics at Sonoma State University; and Kathy Joseph, owner of Fiddlehead Cellars. We also mention Travis Lybbert’s paper corroborating the “Sideways Effect,” which you can find here.
Decoder Ring is written and produced by Willa Paskin. This episode was produced by Elizabeth Nakano. Derek John is Sr. Supervising Producer of Narrative Podcasts.
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5/25/2022 • 39 minutes, 22 seconds
How To!: Bounce Back From Burnout
When Betsy joined her last workplace, she thought it was a perfect fit. It was on a list of Best Places to Work and she got to be creative while helping people. But as the startup rapidly grew, the company culture changed and Betsy started to lose herself amid the stress. Then she got laid off. Honestly, Betsy was relieved, but now she’s gotta figure out what’s next. On this episode of How To!, we bring on James Altucher, author, podcaster, and all-around interesting person. He’s both created successful companies and failed a number of times. He has some funny, frank advice for taking the sting out of rejection, reviving your passions, and making sure your next move is right for you.
If you liked this episode, check out “How To Advance Your Career by Quitting Your Job.”
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5/23/2022 • 35 minutes, 20 seconds
Decoder Ring: The Razor Blade Wars
In the early 2000s, an arms race broke out in the world of men’s shaving. After decades with razors that had only one blade and then decades with razors that had only two, the number of blades rapidly spiraled up and up and up.
It’s a skirmish sometimes referred to as The Razor Blade Wars, and it was a face-off about innovation, competition, capitalism, masculinity, and most of all, how strange things can become after you’ve created something that’s the best a consumer can get — and then you have to keep going.
Some of the voices you’ll hear in this episode include Rebecca Herzig, author of Plucked: A History of Hair Removal; Tim Dowling, Guardian columnist and author of Inventor of the Disposable Culture: King Camp Gillette 1855-1932; Dan Koeppel, razor blade zelig; and Kaitlyn Tiffany, writer for the Atlantic.
If you want to read more about razor blades, check out:
Cutting edge : Gillette's journey to global leadership
King C. Gillette, the man and his wonderful shaving device
Satisfaction Guaranteed: The Making of the American Mass Market
Decoder Ring is written and produced by Willa Paskin. This episode was produced by Elizabeth Nakano. Derek John is Sr. Supervising Producer of Narrative Podcasts.
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4/19/2022 • 42 minutes, 12 seconds
Sponsored: How Can We Be More Self-Aware and Emotionally Intelligent in Business?
We’re wrapping up Season 2 of The Relentless with two special guests who epitomize the emotional intelligence and personal commitment needed to create extraordinary experiences for customers. Gary Vaynerchuck, known to millions as Gary Vee, has had remarkable success as an innovative entrepreneur, investor, author, and podcaster. His new book Twelve and a Half: Leveraging the Emotional Ingredients Necessary for Business Success explores the self awareness and emotional skills that are crucial for success in any business. Later, we hear from Eddie Berenbaum, co-owner and president of CENTURY 21 Redwood Realty. Eddie discusses the importance of loving what you do, and how he’s using technology to empower agents with valuable insights.
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11/17/2021 • 32 minutes, 30 seconds
Introducing: Lost in Sports
Hey Thrilling Tales fans, we wanted to introduce you to another show you might like! Join journalist, host and amateur detective Ben Baskin as he goes on an intrepid quest to solve various sports mysteries in Lost in Sports, a new podcast from Religion of Sports and PRX. In every episode, Ben will explore the mysteries of the lost, the forgotten and the disappeared. And you’ll never know where his journey will take him as he chases down answers to some of the biggest questions in sports history— and some you never thought to ask. Lost in Sports is now streaming wherever you get your podcasts.
This episode takes you to 1999, when a small apparel company named And1 released a VHS tape filled with streetball highlights and turned streetball into a worldwide craze. By the early 2000s, there was a global tour, an ESPN show and a video game. But then, just as quickly as it rose, it disappeared. Twenty years later, Ben untanges the complicated origins, rise and untimely demise of the phenomenon he fell in love with as a kid. To learn more about streetball and where it's played, check out our AND1 Guide on Apple Maps here.
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9/3/2021 • 48 minutes, 47 seconds
Joint Venture | The Story of High Times
Can the National Geographic of marijuana become a name brand in the cannabis retail industry?
Podcast production by Jess Miller and Cleo Levin.
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7/23/2021 • 26 minutes, 55 seconds
Milking It | The Story of Oatly
How did a small Swedish plant milk company become a multi-billion dollar disruptor?
Podcast production by Asha Saluja and Cleo Levin.
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7/16/2021 • 32 minutes, 10 seconds
Hair Today, Hair Tomorrow | Supercuts
Supercuts revolutionized the haircutting industry, and managed to stay in style as trends changed. But then came the pandemic.
Podcast production by Jess Miller and Cleo Levin with help from Grace Woodruff.
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7/9/2021 • 26 minutes, 37 seconds
Anything for a Buck | Dollar General
Dollar General is built on a business model that has its stores proliferating rapidly across the country. In response, a movement to control the growth has been picking up in the last few years. Can those who think the stores are causing more harm than help make their voices heard?
Podcast production by Jess Miller and Cleo Levin.
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7/2/2021 • 26 minutes, 29 seconds
Organic and Inorganic Growth | Whole Foods
Groceries was one of the last industries to come under Big Tech’s influence, but everything changed when Amazon bought Whole Foods.
Podcast production by Jess Miller and Cleo Levin.
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6/25/2021 • 26 minutes, 11 seconds
What Streams May Come | The Story of HBO
HBO pioneered prestige TV and the concept of renting movies from home. Can it be a frontrunner in the streaming wars?
Podcast production by Jess Miller and Cleo Levin.
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6/18/2021 • 32 minutes, 16 seconds
Swabber Barons | The Story of Puritan
You may not have heard of Puritan, but if you’ve gotten a COVID test, you’ve probably had one of their products inside your nose. A family feud almost tore this company apart. Then the White House called.
Read Olivia Carville’s original article for Bloomberg.
Podcast production by Jess Miller and Cleo Levin.
Correction: This episode incorrectly identifies the owner of Hardwood Products. James Cartwright works for Hardwood, but the owner is John Cartwright.
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6/11/2021 • 27 minutes, 5 seconds
Bugging Out | The Story of Volkswagen
In the 1960s, the Volkswagen Beetle was a symbol of peace and love. But this same car was invented as part of the Nazi propaganda project. And that’s just the beginning of the story.
Correction: This episode incorrectly states the full name of the DDB advertising agency. It is Doyle Dane Bernbach.
Podcast production by Jess Miller and Cleo Levin.
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6/4/2021 • 29 minutes, 51 seconds
I Want to Ride My Internet-Enabled Bicycle | The Peloton Story
Peloton thought it was selling boutique at-home fitness to busy parents. Instead, it created an entire community. But it also hit a few bumps on the road to success.
Podcast production by Jess Miller and Cleo Levin.
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3/26/2021 • 24 minutes, 48 seconds
We’re Getting the Band Back Together | Tower Records
Can a once-revered brick-and-mortar music chain be brought back to life in the era of Amazon and Spotify?
Podcast production by Jess Miller and Cleo Levin.
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3/19/2021 • 23 minutes, 46 seconds
They’ve Got Issues | The Story of Marvel
Marvel has stumbled as a company many times throughout its history, even going bankrupt in the 1990s. But not unlike many of its characters, it’s re-emerged stronger than before.
Podcast production by Jess Miller and Cleo Levin.
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3/12/2021 • 26 minutes, 43 seconds
Loss Leader | Weight Watchers
In 2018, the company once known as Weight Watchers changed its name to “WW.” Is its best chance at survival to convince people that it’s not that interested in dieting after all?
Podcast production by Asha Saluja and Cleo Levin.
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3/5/2021 • 33 minutes, 27 seconds
The Color of Money | Pantone
Color is a beautiful thing that just exists in the world. But when color intersects with capitalism, somebody has to set some standards, make some decisions, and make some money.
Podcast production by Jess Miller and Cleo Levin.
Note: This episode incorrectly states that Radiant Orchid was Pantone's 2012 color of the year. It was the color of the year in 2014.
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2/26/2021 • 24 minutes, 28 seconds
The Dull Shall Inherit the Earth | The Story of Salesforce
How do you sex up the world of B2B “customer relationship management” software? For Salesforce CEO Marc Benioff, it’s been a combination of ambitious acquisitions, skyscrapers, monks, and Metallica.
Podcast production by Jess Miller and Cleo Levin.
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2/19/2021 • 25 minutes, 34 seconds
Hallmark and the Selling of Sentiment
For more than a century, Hallmark has been a tightly-held, Midwestern business that’s mastered the art of turning feelings into revenue. But recently, it has run into trouble when it’s tried so hard to be inoffensive, it ends up offending. Can Hallmark succeed in an era when emotions might be getting too big to fit in an envelope?
Podcast production by Jess Miller and Cleo Levin.
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2/12/2021 • 27 minutes, 23 seconds
Purple Reign | The Story of Manischewitz
How did an immigrant rabbi use modern technology to dominate the millenia-old market for matzoh? And how did an almost undrinkably sweet wine manage to become the taste of Judaism?
Podcast production by Jess Miller with help from Cleo Levin.
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12/18/2020 • 24 minutes, 11 seconds
Kingpins | The Business of Pinterest
Pinterest is an online destination frequented by crafty moms and brides-to-be. But former employees allege that its internal culture is far from woman-friendly.
Podcast production by Jess Miller and Asha Saluja, with help from Cleo Levin and Seth Stevenson.
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12/11/2020 • 28 minutes, 15 seconds
The Tithes Are Turning | The GoFundMe Story
GoFundMe turned charitable giving into another form of social media. Should we be concerned that Silicon Valley is profiting off of our most selfless intentions?
Podcast production by Jess Miller, with help from Cleo Levin.
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12/4/2020 • 23 minutes, 49 seconds
Unforgiven | Wells Fargo
The name Wells Fargo conjures up images of old western stagecoaches and pioneers. But when scandal hit, was this feel-good history enough to deflect attention away from the bank’s present-day troubles?
Podcast production by Jess Miller, with help from Cleo Levin and Asha Saluja.
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11/20/2020 • 35 minutes, 37 seconds
The Shocking True Story of the National Enquirer
The National Enquirer played a large role in the 2016 election. Four years later, the paper has been merged with a company that sells corkscrews, umbrellas, and hand sanitizer, and its CEO has been ousted from his leadership role. What happened since its days of major scoops and supermarket dominance?
Podcast production by Jess Miller, with help from Cleo Levin and Asha Saluja.
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11/13/2020 • 27 minutes, 31 seconds
Stroller Derby | UPPAbaby and the Battle for Sidewalk Supremacy
For certain parents, a stroller isn’t just a product—it’s a lifestyle signifier. For the past 100 years or so, one stroller brand at a time seems to reign supreme, until it’s dethroned by the next up-and-comer. Right now, UPPAbaby is that “it” stroller. But with new customers being born every minute, how do they maintain a stronghold?
Podcast production by Jess Miller, with help from Madeline Ducharme and Cleo Levin.
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11/6/2020 • 23 minutes, 46 seconds
Mama Don’t Take My Kodak Loan Away
Eastman Kodak revolutionized amateur photography, but after failing to embrace digital, it fell on hard times. Then, a lifeline came in the form of a loan from the federal government--to make not cameras, but pharmaceuticals. It sent stock prices soaring … but also raised a lot of questions.
Podcast production by Jess Miller, with help from Madeline Ducharme and Cleo Levin.
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10/30/2020 • 32 minutes, 11 seconds
Brooks Brothers | A Button-Down Bankruptcy
For more than a century, Brooks Brothers defined fashion for a certain kind of east coast, American elite. It’s been the clothier to nearly every US president. So how did its madras start to bleed so badly?
Podcast production by Jess Miller, with help from Madeline Ducharme, Hannah Klein, and Cleo Levin.
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10/2/2020 • 21 minutes, 46 seconds
Overnight Billionaires | Airbnb
Airbnb transformed the experience of travel by turning ordinary neighborhoods into tourist destinations, and ordinary people into backdoor innkeepers. These people’s small businesses are the backbone of Airbnb’s big one. But facing a pandemic and a potential PR disaster, would the company prioritize its guests or its hosts?
Podcast production by Heba Elorbany and Jess Miller, with help from Madeline Ducharme and Asha Saluja.
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9/25/2020 • 38 minutes, 56 seconds
Queasy Rider | The Uncertain Future of Harley-Davidson
There are few more iconic pieces of Americana than a Harley-Davidson motorcycle. But its singular Americanness - the thing that has kept the brand popular for decades - may now be a harbinger of its downfall.
Podcast production by Jess Miller, with help from Asha Saluja.
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9/18/2020 • 25 minutes, 41 seconds
Fly the Unfriendly Skies | The Story of Ryanair
Ryanair’s Michael O’Leary says things about customers and competitors that you wouldn’t expect him to get away with -- but he does. He takes business risks that others wouldn’t dream of -- and they almost always pay off. Now facing a global pandemic, will Ryanair’s signature “no-frills” model and its lightning-rod CEO weather the storm?
Podcast production by Jess Miller, with help from Madeline Ducharme, Hannah Klein, Cleo Levin, and Asha Saluja.
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9/11/2020 • 23 minutes, 43 seconds
Croc of Ages | The Strange Staying Power of a Cheap, Ugly Clog
Crocs once teetered on the verge of total ruin, but after a long, bumpy journey, the instantly recognizable plastic clogs are back. The fact that people hate them may very well be what saved them.
Podcast production by Jess Miller, with help from Madeline Ducharme, Hannah Klein, and Asha Saluja.
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9/4/2020 • 23 minutes, 33 seconds
Boss Fights | Tim Sweeney, Epic Games, and the Quest to Slay the Mobile Duopoly
A lot has changed since we first reported on Epic Games and its smash hit, Fortnite. This week, we bring you new reporting on how the little start-up that changed the world of gaming could permanently alter the way tech giants like Apple do business.
Podcast production by Jess Miller and Asha Saluja.
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8/28/2020 • 27 minutes, 12 seconds
A Man for All Sazones | Bob Unanue and the Future of Goya Foods
Goya CEO Robert Unanue recently praised Donald Trump at the White House, resulting in a call to boycott Goya from the political left and endorsements from the political right. Did Unanue do this to jeopardize the sale of his company and to maintain control of what his family founded?
Podcast production by Jess Miller, with help from Madeline Ducharme, Hannah Klein, Megan Kallstrom, and Asha Saluja.
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8/21/2020 • 27 minutes
A Tuna Tale | Starkist, Bumble Bee, Chicken of the Sea, and the Sinking of Seafood Empires
A few years ago, the Department of Justice started looking into business practices in the canned tuna industry. What unfolded was a price fixing story so dark and disruptive, it threatened to upend a century-old industry.
Podcast production by Jess Miller, with help from Madeline Ducharme, Hannah Klein, Megan Kallstrom, and Asha Saluja.
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8/14/2020 • 24 minutes, 29 seconds
Thinking Inside the Box | The Story of Domino’s
Its chief digital officer called it “an e-commerce company that sells pizza.” Tasters across the country once said its products tasted like cardboard. But by cornering the delivery business early on, Domino’s set itself up for success—a gamble that especially paid off once in-house dining went on pause.
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6/26/2020 • 25 minutes, 44 seconds
Kings of Consulting | McKinsey & Company
Since its founding in the 1920s, McKinsey has become the gold standard for management consulting. But as its business grew, so did America’s wealth gap. Is that a coincidence?
Podcast production by Heba Elorbany and Jess Miller with help from Asha Saluja.
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6/19/2020 • 35 minutes, 48 seconds
The Fortnite Founder | Tim Sweeney and Epic Games
Epic Games changed the world of gaming with its smash hit, Fortnite. But for founder Tim Sweeney, Fortnite was a culmination of everything he had learned since he received his first computer at age 11.
Podcast production by Jess Miller and Asha Saluja.
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6/12/2020 • 22 minutes, 37 seconds
Swan Thong | The Rise and Fall of Victoria’s Secret
Although it’s known for making products for women, Victoria’s Secret was created as a shopping experience for men. It hit its stride in the 1990s, with stores in malls across America and a brand built on a very specific kind of fantasy: supermodels, angel wings, and diamond-studded bras. But when this definition of glamour—and retail— began to fall out of fashion, Victoria’s Secret refused to budge. Now, its future is in jeopardy.
Casey Crowe Taylor is a former Victoria’s Secret employee. Heidi Zak is the co-founder and CEO of ThirdLove.
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6/5/2020 • 23 minutes, 37 seconds
Sanity and Sanitizer | The Story of Purell
Before this pandemic, the story of Purell was mostly about innovation -- inventing something people needed before they realized they needed it. Now, it’s a story about something every business executive dreams of -- a sudden influx of customers desperate to get their hands on your product.
But when demand surges so fast that the leading brand can’t produce enough of it, it results in scarcity and price gouging... and other companies jump in to fill the gap. When life returns to some level of normalcy, will the makers of Purell discover that this moment has birthed a whole raft of new competitors? And will there still be enough unclean hands to go around?
David Owen is a staff writer at The New Yorker. Matt Cunningham is co-founder of Old Glory Distilling Co. in Clarksville, TN.
Podcast production by Jess Miller.
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5/29/2020 • 20 minutes, 45 seconds
Floating Hellscapes | The Carnival Corporation
For decades, Carnival Corporation has successfully sold affordable luxury to passengers, becoming the largest cruise ship business in the world.
The reason why a vacation at sea can be so inexpensive has to do with both the vision of Carnival’s founder and the historical origins of the cruise industry itself. But that affordability can also come with unpleasant consequences. Now, the entire industry’s future has been thrown into doubt by a deadly virus.
Cindel Pena was a passenger onboard Carnival’s headline-making “poop cruise.” Ross Klein is a cruise industry expert and professor at Memorial University of Newfoundland. Jim Walker is a Miami-based maritime lawyer and publisher of Cruise Law News.
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5/22/2020 • 23 minutes, 56 seconds
Introducing: Thrilling Tales of Modern Capitalism
Navigating the marketplace is your original choose-your-own adventure. Thrilling Tales of Modern Capitalism takes a company in the news, and looks at its history to figure out why it finds itself in its present circumstances. Host Seth Stevenson brings you stories you may not have heard about the brands that shape how you live and work. And whether they’ve succeeded or failed, these companies have been on more of an adventure than you may have imagined.
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