Leader Chat with Dr. Jeff Rose features interviews with top education leaders who collaborate, problem solve, and build a community of support for superintendents and their executive leadership teams. Cognia Leadership Circle members can join us live every Wednesday, ask questions, and contribute to the discussions. To support members of Cognia’s Leadership Circle, we chat with leaders dealing with tough problems from school board politics to school improvement and student safety, we address the pressing issues of the day. School leadership is isolating. Our Leader Chat is straight talk with honest feedback, as we share pragmatic solutions to help leaders in education day-to-day. You don’t have to lead alone. Join us every Wednesday for Leader Chat.
Episode 74: Addressing Systems to Attack the Problem of Teacher Shortages with Heath Morrison
Heath Morrison is the CEO of Teachers of Tomorrow, a very important and vital organization that is fortunate to be led by someone with vast experience who cares deeply about students and teachers. Heath and Jeff delve into the relevant and critical topic of teacher shortages—what is and what is to come. Their discussion analyzed the current status and conditions impacting the problem and delves into brainstorming future solutions. Every educational leader should listen to this!
1/3/2024 • 39 minutes, 46 seconds
Episode 73: Pragmatic Leadership Advice, from Coaching to Time Management with PJ Caposey
PJ Caposey is impressive! He is an award winning and working superintendent. His story of overcoming personal challenges is motivating, and he also supports leaders across the country as he coaches and speaks to the themes he has written about in his several published books. He and Jeff delve into 'Cracking the Coaching Code', one of his books and Time Management issues, which he has also written about. PJ and Jeff get along GREAT- enjoy their conversation!
12/20/2023 • 53 minutes, 26 seconds
Episode 72: Facing Reality, Claiming Leadership, and Restoring Sanity with Margaret Wheatley
Margaret Wheatley is a deep thinker and clearly has an incredible background working with leaders around the world. She has written extensively on education and leadership, and her work is personal and pushes others to take a close look at themselves. The conversation between Jeff and Margaret was different than other Leader Chats, in a good way. Enjoy this discussion as they talk about her book, Who Do We Choose To Be: Facing Reality, Claiming Leadership, & Restoring Sanity.
12/13/2023 • 56 minutes, 27 seconds
Episode 71: Underrepresentation of African Americans in Finance and on Wallstreet with David Esmie
David Esmie is not an educator by trade. Rather, guided by his own experiences in the finance industry, he has chosen to dedicate himself to influencing typically underrepresented youth to pursue careers in finance. He and Jeff are friends, and our listeners will appreciate them comparing notes and talking strategy on how David is impacting future financiers.
11/29/2023 • 47 minutes, 20 seconds
Episode 70: Learner Centered Leadership with Devin Vodicka
Imagine an educational leader who has empathy for the challenges faced in the classroom, one who is able to create systems focused on the learner and the teacher. Also, think of a leader who embraces innovation and is able to create a culture that finds a balance of autonomy and fidelity for the organization. This person is Devin Vodicka! In this Leader Chat, he and Jeff engage in a conversation about what ‘Leaner Centered Leadership’ really is and why it’s needed.
11/1/2023 • 50 minutes, 55 seconds
Episode 69: Great on Their Behalf with AJ Crabill
AJ Crabill has been on a Leader Chat before, but based on the quality of our last conversation with him, and his new book, we simply had to have him back. AJ’s understanding of school board governance is beyond reproach. His new book, ‘Great on Their Behalf’, is a must read for any school or district leader. School boards have the potential to focus their efforts on students, and if they shed the temptation to focus on adult issues, great things can happen.
10/25/2023 • 43 minutes, 19 seconds
Episode 68: High School Cultural Transformation with Anne Erwin
Anne Erwin and Jeff clearly go way back. She was a principal working with him when he was a superintendent in Oregon. Ann joined us because she is not an ordinarily principal. She turned around the high school in a very unique way, and leaned on a community process and bold vision that did in fact come to fruition. Anne is brutally honest, focused, and passionate about what schools, communities, and especially students are capable of. Enjoy!
10/18/2023 • 52 minutes, 46 seconds
Episode 67: Recalibrating Culture with Jimmy Casas
We were so thankful Jimmy Casas was able to join us in person for this Leader Chat. Jimmy and his work supporting leaders is extremely unique. His advice specific to culture is not just philosophical, it’s pragmatic. He provides leaders with protocols and processes. This Leader Chat is informative, but also inspiring. You will love Jimmy Casas!
10/11/2023 • 52 minutes, 8 seconds
Episode 66: The Artisan, Teacher, and Leader, with Mike Rutherford
Mike Rutherford supports teachers and leaders all over the country. His philosophy supports the art, creativity, and capacity of educators. As you listen to this Leader Chat, you will notice that Mike has his finger on the pulse of what was, is, and will be in schools. His perspective and advice for leaders is something we recommend you listen carefully to.
10/4/2023 • 48 minutes, 47 seconds
Episode 65: A New Kind of Diversity with Tim Elmore
We are big fans of Dr Tim Elmore. This is his second Leader Chat. Last time we discussed his impressive book, Eight Paradoxes of Great Leadership. We invited him back to talk through his newest book, A New Kind of Diversity. His research and insights are invaluable for us as leaders. Here, he and Jeff talk through strategies on how to recognize the challenges of generational diversity in the workplace and leverage them into opportunities. It’s an awesome discussion.
7/20/2023 • 50 minutes, 58 seconds
Episode 64: Trust Between Superintendents and Principals with Justin Benna
What is one of the key ingredients for the health of any organization that starts with a ’T’? Likely you guessed it- its TRUST. In a school district, how is trust established between superintendents and principals? That’s what we asked Dr. Justin Benna, a professor in North Dakota who has studied and written on this very topic. Lean in, listen and enjoy!
7/12/2023 • 49 minutes, 59 seconds
Episode 63: The Laws of Leadership & Communication with John C. Maxwell
If one is truly a ‘student of the game’ when it comes to studying and developing their own leadership skills, they likely have read John C. Maxwell’s work. If not, they should. John C. Maxwell is known as the #1 leadership author in the world. In this inspirational Leader Chat, he shares his wisdom, passion, and empathy with us. He is in our corner, and we are thrilled to be working with and learning from him. We can’t wait for him to join us in person during our Leadership Circle Summit in October!
6/30/2023 • 36 minutes, 45 seconds
Episode 62: The Ins & Outs and Leading Universal Design for Learning with Katie Novak
Universal Design for Learning, (UDL) can sometimes be misunderstood or potentially overwhelm teachers and leaders. Not if they listen to or read the work of Katie Novak. She is a teacher at heart and has rich leadership experience. She makes UDL pragmatic and accessible. This Leader Chat episode is incredible!
6/15/2023 • 49 minutes, 37 seconds
Episode 61: Advancing Social Emotional Learning with Dr. Aaliyah Samuel
There are very few topics in education as relevant today as Social and Emotional Health, for students and adults. There is also not any organization as knowledgeable on this topic as the Collaborative for Social and Emotional Learning. The CEO of CASEL, Dr. Aaliyah Samuel, joined us in this Leader Chat. It was a phenomenal and enlightening discussion.
6/7/2023 • 47 minutes, 16 seconds
Episode 60: Reclaiming Happiness and Unleashing One’s Potential with Kim Strobel
As educational leaders, we all want and need to find peace and satisfaction within the context of the challenging times and work we are experiencing. It’s easier said than done. Kim Strobel provides some insightful and pragmatic advice to us, helping us to keep our head up and moving forward.
5/31/2023 • 1 hour, 2 minutes, 26 seconds
Episode 59: Cultural Proficiency, Teaching, and Leadership with Dr. Roger Cleveland
In this episode, Jeff engages with Dr. Roger Cleveland about the importance and challenge of embracing cultural proficiency as educators. It’s a political topic, but as you listen, maybe they uncover why it does not have to be. If we have strategies to meet the needs of students, with the awareness that kids come from different backgrounds, experiences, and skill sets and it’s our job to love and teach them all.
5/24/2023 • 42 minutes, 59 seconds
Episode 58: Time For Change with Anthony Muhammad and Luis Cruz
If you are an educator, a leader in schools or in districts at any level, this is a must listen. Anthony Muhammad and Luis Cruz brought so much practical and powerful advice that it was actually hard for me to get Jeff to stop talking with them. These authors are not just researchers- they are practitioners who have been on the front lines. They get it!
5/18/2023 • 58 minutes
Episode 57: Leading with Your School Board and Keeping Focus on What’s Most Important with Pamela Swanson & Ken Ciancio - Pt 2
This is the second part of a two-part series. This week, Pamela Swanson had her board president, Ken Ciancio, join us. Jeff was so excited to compare and contrast what Pam had to say in episode one with what Ken might bring to light in our second chat. Bottom line, Ken and Pam are two peas in a pod- they are a team and their mutual respect for each other and their roles shines through. If only all superintendent and board relationships were this strong.
5/10/2023 • 44 minutes, 30 seconds
Episode 56: Leading with Your School Board and Keeping Focus on What’s Most Important with Pamela Swanson - Pt 1
Everyone who pays any attention to schools or politics knows, the dynamics of a school board can have positive or negative effects on the schools and communities they serve. We have had other Leader Chats on this topic, but Pamela Swanson, superintendent of Westminster Schools in Colorado, ‘schooled us’ in this Leader Chat. Her humility and compassion are obvious. Clearly, she understands quality governance, but she also describes the art of working with her board as united front. This Leader Chat is awesome!
5/3/2023 • 48 minutes, 51 seconds
Episode 55: Talking People - Hiring, Development, and Coaching with Frank Cespedes
Why would a K-12 educational leader listen to a Harvard Business School Professor who specializes in sales and marketing? Well, as Jeff often points out, smart leaders learn from others who are in different lanes and industries. When you listen to Frank Cespedes, you will see the leadership correlation between business and sales with education. Frank’s latest book identifies several trends and solutions that translate to leading in fast changing environments. You will love it!
4/26/2023 • 47 minutes, 45 seconds
Episode 54: Highly Effective School Leaders with Tim Nolan
Educators need to hear from leaders who have spent time in education, and in the private sector. Tim Nolan is one of these people. We are thankful we had the opportunity to pick Tim's brain. His perspective is clear and extremely pragmatic. Leaders, take note and consider how Tim's perspective can impact your day-to-day work life.
4/19/2023 • 35 minutes, 42 seconds
Episode 53: Education and Assessment With The Future In Mind with Janet Godwin
This conversation was fun and enlightening! I know Jeff pretty well, and it was obvious to me that he was giddy talking with Janet Godwin, the CEO of ACT, in this Leader Chat episode. Janet’s perspective may surprise you. Her view on the need for change in education and how we consider assessment results was refreshing. As the producer of the show, I try to ensure we keep our shows under a certain length of time. This was a difficult conversation to halt. These two passionate, educational leaders could have talked for days.
4/12/2023 • 52 minutes, 7 seconds
Episode 52: Surrendering to Your Passion for Education and Service With Diane Starkovich
If you were to close your eyes and imagine an educational leader 100% committed to serving students, educators, and her community. . . . this leader also possesses a peaceful passion for student success amidst even the most challenging times in education . . . You may not have known it, but you are thinking of Diane Starkovich. Her leadership story is pretty awesome, but hearing her talk with Jeff about leadership and love for her work is inspirational.
4/5/2023 • 46 minutes, 58 seconds
Episode 51: Teacher-Powered Schools with Amy Junge and Wendy Salcedo-Fierro
It makes sense that when new challenges in schools arise, so would innovative models and solutions. In an earlier Leader Chat with Richard Ingersoll regarding teacher shortages, he mentioned ‘Teacher-Powered Schools’. After some research, we invited Amy Junge and Wendy Salcedo-Fierro to talk with us. While we all think of the traditional principal leading and managing the school, there are new ways emerging. We hope you enjoy learning about this model as much as we did.
3/29/2023 • 50 minutes
Episode 50: Overcoming Obstacles and Leading From the Heart with Kwame Johnson
Listening to Jeff talk with Kwame Johnson is a treat. Kwame has an inspiring story, and his passion for the importance of our youth being mentored and having reliable relationships is a gift. Kwame has leveraged his own experience into what is now his life’s work, and the difference he is making is incredible. Leaders will love Kwame simply because he is forward thinking and reminds us all to simply lead aligned to our ‘WHY’.
3/22/2023 • 36 minutes, 54 seconds
Episode 49: Hope Rising with Casey Gwinn
Have you ever heard the phrase - “hope is not a strategy”? What if it is?
This conversation between Jeff and Casey Gwinn, a coauthor of Hope Rising, How the Science of Hope can Change your Life will likely impact your perspective about what hope actually is, and the power it can play in lives if understood and embraced. As you are about to hear, this is great stuff.
3/1/2023 • 49 minutes, 5 seconds
Episode 48: Real-Time Leadership When The Stakes Are High with David Noble and Carol Kauffman
Our goal with our leader chats is to provide our educational leaders with pragmatic input, advice, and direction that adds to their skillset and perspective. It’s fair to say that we nailed it with this episode due to the work of David Noble and Carol Kauffman. Their book, Real Time Leadership is one we highly suggest you look into right away. When you listen to their wise advice, likely you will understand why. One thing that is great about this discussion, is that their leadership expertise in fact does not only pertain to education. Jeff always aims to make sure our content is well-rounded, so as leaders, we are always trying to look beyond our field to learn and grow.
By the way, I am Kris Richard, the producer of this show. If you like our Leader Chats, please rate us or leave a comment. We always appreciate listener feedback and would love to hear from you.
2/22/2023 • 50 minutes, 2 seconds
Episode 47: Leading School Change with Todd Whitaker
I am Kris Richard, producer of our Leader Chat. I am not a traditional educator, so as I listen to our guests and Jeff talk, I always learn something new. This discussion with Todd Whitaker is DENSE. Clearly School Change is a topic unto itself, but the art and strategy of LEADING it is different. Jeff and Todd were like peas in a pod and could have gone on forever. Blame me or thank me, but I finally had to push them to end the discussion- otherwise, they may have talked all day. You are going to love this episode.
2/8/2023 • 57 minutes, 4 seconds
Episode 46: Leading and Serving a Complex Organization with Jim Clark, President & CEO of the Boys & Girls Club of America
Educational leaders should not ONLY listen to and learn from educators. Districts and schools may be complicated places, but there are also other organizations that are committed to serving our youth that do incredible work. Case in point . . . this week Jeff talks with Jim Clark, the CEO of Boys & Girls Clubs of America. They serve 5,100 centers/locations impacting 4.6 million students! Yeah, you read that right. A massive undertaking and leadership responsibility. You can’t listen to this and NOT learn something about strategy, navigating the complexity of the current times, and servant leadership.
2/1/2023 • 50 minutes, 7 seconds
Episode 45: Helping Leaders Understand Teacher, Supply, Demand, Shortages, & Turnover with Richard Ingersoll
If you have not experienced or heard of our current challenges related to our teacher force, you are either lucky or not paying attention. It’s a significant challenge now and promises to be only more so in the future. In this Leader Chat Jeff engages Dr. Ingersoll who is a leading expert on America’s elementary and secondary teaching force, and a professor in education and sociology at the University of Pennsylvania. Likely, we could not have found a better leader to talk with on this subject. The good news is that leaders can make a difference dealing with this challenge as Ingersoll points out.
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1/25/2023 • 47 minutes, 27 seconds
Episode 44: Vision, Hope, & Challenge From A Charter School Perspective with Jon Hage
One thing that is so cool about our Leader Chats is the diversity of those we talk with. We are so fortunate to have access to great leaders that we can all learn from. Jon Hage, CEO of Charter Schools USA, joined us to discuss their vision, hopes, and challenges and all that they have learned along the way. As you will notice, Jon is passionate about the mission of impacting the lives of kids, and his leadership insights can help all of us learn and grow.
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1/11/2023 • 38 minutes, 32 seconds
Episode 43: Trends in Education and Edtech with Kevin Hogan
Educational leaders should be in-tune with educational trends . . . what has happened, what is current, and most importantly- what is around the bend. The dilemma for leaders is time. The lives of educational leaders are so busy, it makes paying attention to educational trends difficult. Kevin Hogan can help. Tracking innovative ideas and trends in education is what Hogan does, and in this Leader Chat, he and Jeff discuss what leaders should or could be paying attention to right now. We hope you listen to and learn from this podcast.
1/4/2023 • 46 minutes, 56 seconds
Episode 42: Ridiculously Amazing Schools with Jeff Waller
Have you heard of the Seven Mindsets? Jeff Waller’s work spearheaded the movement. It’s been spreading throughout the country for several years, and it has never been more relevant than now. His book, Ridiculously Amazing Schools, builds on everything that he and his team have learned about what leadership characteristics are needed for schools to be amazing. As ‘the Jeffs’ talk, you will be touched and intrigued. Check it out . . . you will see I am not wrong.
12/14/2022 • 45 minutes, 49 seconds
Episode 41: No Holds Barred on Equity with Jeff Duncan-Andrade (Part 2)
Welcome to part two of our chat with Jeff Duncan Andrade. If you have not listened to part one, we invite you to do so. You will thank us later. Jeff’s perspective on equity and his passion for serving all students is powerful. Leaders, and educators, we hope you enjoy!
11/30/2022 • 30 minutes, 28 seconds
Episode 40: The Gap Between What We Know and Do with Mike Schmoker
Mike Schmoker has a way of cutting to the heart of the truth and simultaneously inspiring educators to dream of what’s possible. The fact is, educators can easily get distracted. Schmoker reminds us that if we stay focused on what we already know works, incredible things can happen for students. If you are in any way responsible for leading schools, this is a must listen.
11/16/2022 • 51 minutes, 42 seconds
Episode 39: Leading Change with Stephen Peters
We are so lucky we were able to recruit Dr. Stephen Peters to talk with us. When we did, we had no idea he was a movie star, or at least close to one having been a leader on the documentary ‘American High School.’ Stephen is a wise leader with a rich background as a school and district leader. He and Jeff discuss the need for some future changes and most importantly, what leaders can do to drive the change.
11/2/2022 • 49 minutes, 48 seconds
Episode 38: Board Governance and Leadership Implications with AJ Crabill
AJ Crabill is likely one of the most knowledgeable leaders on School Board Governance you can find. As you will hear Jeff and AJ discuss, governance is often messy work, but it does not have to be with the right guidance and support. AJ and Jeff unpack what they notice in terms of current trends and spend time talking about what leaders can do to help guide the process relative to what is best for students, schools, and communities. Very relevant stuff!
10/26/2022 • 48 minutes, 38 seconds
Episode 37: No Holds Barred on Equity with Jeff Duncan-Andrade (Part 1)
What a treat. Jeff Duncan-Andrade is a passionate educator, man, and father. He has dedicated himself to serving his community and driving change to a system that, as he describes, is not designed to support all students. The focus and perspective of equity he describes and lives by are clear, and his convictions, regardless of one’s perspective, should be listened to. Jeff and Jeff’s conversation was so good, we had to split this into two parts. We are proud to present “Part 1” of this discussion to you now.
10/19/2022 • 33 minutes, 43 seconds
Episode 36: Street Data with Shane Safir
Shane Safir is one of the authors of the very popular book Street Data: A Next-Generation Model for Equity, Pedagogy, and School Transformation. One of our Leadership Circle members recommended to Jeff we feature this inspirational conversation, and we are so glad we did. Street Data is different than so many educational texts and dives into the heart of how we envision and determine what success can look like for students. Any educational leader will learn from this conversation between Jeff and Shane.
10/12/2022 • 29 minutes, 31 seconds
Episode 35: What Leaders Need To Know About Our Future with Bill Daggett
There is no doubt about it. Bill Dagett is a DEEEEP thinker and is an expert in pushing us to be the same. He and Jeff lean in on the topic of pursuing a new narrative and model in education to serve students in the future. Bill breaks down elements of our current challenges and fortunately provides some advice on how we can move forward. As one behind the camera, I could tell Jeff and Bill could have talked for hours if we had let them.
10/5/2022 • 39 minutes, 2 seconds
Episode 34: Trends and the Future of the Teacher Pipeline with Denise A. Spangler
Our worries about teacher shortage and a lack of motivation for young professionals to seek a career in teaching are real and it’s shared. In this Leader Chat, Jeff talks with Dr. Denise Spangler, Dean of the College of Education at the University of Georgia. She has led at UGA for many years, and her lens into this problem and the potential for future opportunities for change is something we should all pay attention to.
9/28/2022 • 40 minutes, 18 seconds
Episode 33: Leader Credibility with Doug Fisher
If you have been an educator any time within the last twenty years, and don’t know who Dr. Doug Fisher is, what rock have you been hiding under? All kidding aside, Doug Fisher is known as an expert in a number of things . . . . literacy, professional learning communities, but today he and Jeff chat about Leadership Credibility. Doug wrote Leader Credibility: the essential traits of those who engage, inspire and transform- which is exactly why we invited him to talk with us. EXTREMELY RELEVANT CONTENT!
9/21/2022 • 40 minutes, 41 seconds
Episode 32: Future Ready Schools and Leadership Teams with Deborah Delisle
If you listen to this, you will learn that Deborah Delisle is an amazing leader. As the president and chief executive officer of All4Ed, past CEO of ASCD, and was the U.S. assistant secretary of elementary and secondary education, she provides insights and wise advice from a leadership perspective. Deb and Jeff try to focus on the topics of innovation, underserved students, and working in teams, but they go even deeper than planned. This is an honest and heartfelt conversation, and we are so thankful for this Leader Chat.
9/7/2022 • 52 minutes, 8 seconds
Episode 31: Leading and Implementing Proficiency-based Systems with Robert Marzano
Those who have been in education for some time and have paid attention know Robert Marzano is a rock star! His expertise runs deep in many areas, and in this Leader Chat, we were thrilled to pick his brain on leading and implementing proficiency-based systems in schools and districts. We are so lucky to have such an esteemed lineup of guests, and Dr. Marzano only adds to the esteem of our show. As an educational leader, if you are not impressed with this, then maybe you are impossible to impress. (That's a joke). Enjoy!
8/3/2022 • 38 minutes, 23 seconds
Episode 30: Organizing the System for Student Success with MaryEllen Elia
As the past superintendent of Hillsborough County Public Schools and New York State Education Commissioner, MaryEllen Elia knows what she is talking about. Jeff recruited her to this Leader Chat to discuss strategies on setting up district systems aligned to the needs of students, something MaryEllen is passionate about. This conversation is relevant to education leaders regardless of the size, location, or demographics of their system, a relevant topic indeed.
7/27/2022 • 43 minutes, 37 seconds
Episode 29: Equity Based Leadership with Joshua Starr
Well, Joshua Starr and Jeff clearly have a lot in common and are past friends. They are both experienced school district leaders and passionate about the moral imperative and strategy of leading with an equity mindset. Joshua is clear, honest, and able to describe the challenge and nuance of leading during challenging times. Jeff loved his book, Equity-Based Leadership, and after hearing this discussion, you will likely want to read it as well.
6/8/2022 • 41 minutes, 8 seconds
Episode 28: Common Sense Evidence with Nora Gordon
The original plan was for Jeff to talk with Nora Gordon and Carrie Conaway, authors of Common Sense Evidence: The Education Leader's Guide to Using Data and Research. However, Carrie had a health-related issue, so it was just Nora and Jeff. Nonetheless, they had a super interesting discussion. Jeff loved the way these two professors have created a pragmatic guide for busy educational leaders to analyze data to make wise decisions and create a legitimate narrative. You are going to like this one.
6/1/2022 • 38 minutes, 10 seconds
Episode 27: The Eight Paradoxes of Great Leadership with Tim Elmore
As Jeff says, “Dr. Tim Elmore ALWAYS delivers”. Watching or listening to this Leader Chat, you will see that Tim and Jeff have a rapport. What you will also notice is that Tim’s new research and book, The Eight Paradoxes of Great Leadership, is a must-have for leaders in any industry, especially education. Tim- the Founder and CEO of Growing Leaders- has contributed to our Leadership Circle several times. His book, The Pandemic Population, was a hit amongst our members. This focus on leaders takes the relevance of his perspective to a new level for us.
5/18/2022 • 39 minutes, 51 seconds
Episode 26: Navigating Leadership Transitions with Stephen Murley
Leadership transitions are tricky, not just for the school community, but also emotionally for the leader. Stephen Murley is a well-known and respected superintendent, successfully leading three different districts. Due to health concerns, Steve just resigned from his superintendent post in Green Bay Wisconsin. Jeff, a long-time colleague with Stephen, wanted to pick Stephen’s brain and discuss the emotions behind his past and current leadership transitions. This is a very relevant discussion for all educational leaders to hear and we appreciate the candid and thoughtful advice Stephen discusses with us.
5/11/2022 • 43 minutes, 48 seconds
Episode 25: The Power of Regret with Daniel Pink
Daniel Pink was with us! Seriously, that Daniel Pink . . . the author of five New York Times bestsellers, including his latest, The Power of Regret: How Looking Backward Moves Us Forward. He has lots of fans, and clearly, Jeff is one of them. Jeff peppered Dan with questions about education and how leaders can learn from the “regret” research described in the book. Daniel is a wealth of information and is well-deserving of his stellar reputation. It was an absolute honor having him join us. You are going to LOVE this podcast!
5/4/2022 • 38 minutes, 29 seconds
Episode 24: Districts that Succeed with Karin Chenoweth (Part 2)
In our last podcast with Karin Chenoweth discussing her new book, Districts That Succeed, Jeff simply was not able to squeeze his questions into just one sitting. Fortunately, she was gracious enough to come back for Part 2.
4/20/2022 • 48 minutes, 12 seconds
Episode 23: Districts that Succeed with Karin Chenoweth (Part1)
For schools to truly be successful, we learn in this conversation that the district does in fact matter. Jeff talks with the well-known educational author and researcher, Karin Chenowith. Karin is writer-in-residence at The Education Trust. Her latest book, Districts that Succeed: Breaking the Correlation Between Race, Poverty, and Achievement is what grabbed Jeff’s attention. In fact, this conversation is the first of a two-part Leader Chat. If you are an educational leader, responsible for supporting schools, these are must listens!
4/13/2022 • 52 minutes, 39 seconds
Episode 22: Blueprint for Clear, Effective, and Meaningful School Communication with Patricia Weinzapfel
Schools communicating clearly with families and community is challenging, and yet so important. Educational leaders and teachers know the opportunity of improving our communication skills, but they don’t always know how to do it. Patricia Weinzapfel (wine + zap + ful) is an expert having served as a former television reporter who spends the last decade working with the Evansville Vanderburgh School Cooperation in Indiana. Here, she talks with Jeff about pragmatic and digestible ways educators can up their game in terms of communicating with those we serve.
4/1/2022 • 36 minutes, 10 seconds
Episode 21: Social Emotional Learning & Educational Entrepreneurship with Shannon Cox
Shannon Cox is a leader of leaders, and she also happens to be a Leadership Circle member. Shannon is the superintendent of the Montgomery County Educational Service Center in Ohio. Jeff teases her a bit about a recent nomination for a ‘Remarkable Woman’ award, but you will notice that she is remarkable. Shannon has been a TedTalk speaker and continues to think and lead in innovative ways. She talks with us about the importance of social-emotional support for students and educators, and her partnership with singer/songwriter Jewel is really cool.
3/24/2022 • 40 minutes, 14 seconds
Episode 20: Teacher Supervision, Coaching, and Evaluation with Kim Marshall
If you track the ongoing weekly education articles that are published, you maybe know about the Marshall Memo. If not, you should. The Marshall Memo, published 50 times a year since 2003, is designed to keep principals, teachers, instructional coaches, and superintendents, well-informed on current research and best practices. In this Leader Chat Jeff talks with Kim Marshall, and as you will notice, they would ‘nerd-out’ on educational issues for hours if they were allowed. Clearly, Kim is well informed and connected to ongoing research and trends in education.
3/16/2022 • 36 minutes, 35 seconds
Episode 19: Engaging Every Family with Steve Constantino
Clearly, Jeff and our guest Steven Constantino, know each other from their superintendent-days and can relate and empathize with educational leaders and their challenges. Steven has gone on to write and speak on a topic that has always been paramount but is likely more important now than ever . . . engaging families. His book, Engage Every Family, delves into the art and strategy, his five simple principles, of authentically caring and communicating with families.
3/9/2022 • 45 minutes, 45 seconds
Episode 18: Educational Accountability with John Tanner
Zillow is a great resource for buying a home, but Jeff and John Tanner discuss that there is a better way to determine the success of a school beyond the letter grade sometimes assigned to them. As Jeff talks with John, you will see that the concept of accountability is not the issue, but rather what schools are accountable to and how success is measured. Prepare yourself for a discussion that most educators will be able to relate to.
3/2/2022 • 39 minutes, 2 seconds
Episode 17: Redefining Student Success with Ken Kay and Suzie Boss
As Jeff describes it, Redefining Student Success is a beautifully dense book! We have been mining content and expertise to help leaders turn the COVID corner and focus on what is most important . . . supporting students and communities. As you will hear, authors Ken Kay and Suzie Boss, are laser-focused on providing a roadmap and examples for schools and districts to craft a portrait of a graduate and embed efforts and strategies directly tied to their ultimate goals. As you will notice, Jeff loved this book and his time with Ken and Suzie.
2/23/2022 • 43 minutes
Episode 16: Focusing on Innovative Learning Design and Schools with Tom Vander Ark
How can schools overcome the current challenges and use their opportunities to innovate? If anyone knows the answer to this question, it would be Tom Vander Ark. As the CEO of getting smart, he has visited thousands of schools and contributed to countless books, articles, blog posts, and podcasts on the topic of educational innovations. He and Jeff explore the need for leaders to strategically shift their attention from political turmoil to innovative opportunities and systems for students. Prepare yourself for a fascinating conversation.
2/18/2022 • 38 minutes, 53 seconds
Episode 15: Leading from the Top and Managing the Politics of Education with State Superintendent, Kirsten Baesler
Educational leaders often have to juggle multiple roles such as serving as an educator, parent, leader, and politician. Easier said than done. How do you find balance? Kirsten Baesler, State Superintendent of North Dakota, teaches us that striking ‘balance’ may not be the right goal. Her extensive experience as a 24-year educator including being a vice-principal, library media specialist, classroom teacher, instructional assistant and nine years as a school board member make her extremely qualified to provide perspective. After five minutes of listening to Superintendent Baesler, you will be a fan.
2/9/2022 • 41 minutes, 18 seconds
Episode 14: Leadership, Lessons Learned, and Legacy with Rob Neu
Rob Neu has spent 27 years in public education and is the past superintendent of Oklahoma City and Federal Way Washington. During this Leader Chat, he and Jeff reflect on their past work and discuss the challenges educational leaders face today. Rob is refreshingly humble and honest. Listening to him discuss what he believes is the most important aspect to focus on is eye-opening.
2/2/2022 • 38 minutes, 10 seconds
Episode 13: The Importance of Healthy and Cohesive School Boards with Dr. Andre’ L. Harrison
If you follow education in any way, you know that school boards are often an important part of success and challenges school systems and communities navigate. Over time, school boards have become more political than ever. In this episode, Jeff talks with Dr. Andre` Harrison, Vice President of Accreditation Services here at Cognia. Andre has had a rich history as an educational leader including serving as a superintendent. Currently, he works with and trains school boards regarding role and policy development. As you will hear, he and Jeff discuss the ups, downs, and potential of district leaders working cohesively with boards of education.
1/26/2022 • 38 minutes, 55 seconds
Episode 12: Our Teachers’ Perspective with Randi Weingarten
In schools, who has the biggest impact on our students? Teachers do of course. Who better to share with the perspective, triumphs, and trials of teachers over the past couple of years than Randi Weingarten, president of the American Federation of Teachers. The AFT represents over 1.7 million educators and healthcare professionals! Here you will hear Jeff describe the importance of leaders listening to teachers and Randi does an outstanding job advocating for their needs.
1/5/2022 • 43 minutes, 37 seconds
Episode 11: Reinventing Schools with Dr. Linda Darling-Hammond
Linda Darling-Hammond talks with us about reinventing schools, new design principles for schools, preparing teachers for deeper learning, and some overall advice she has for educational leaders.
12/10/2021 • 36 minutes, 15 seconds
Episode 10: Spirit Work and The Science of Collaboration with Michael Fullan
Dr. Fullan elevates our understanding, truly setting a new bar, relative to the need for deep collaboration in our schools and communities.
12/8/2021 • 44 minutes, 25 seconds
Episode 9: An interview with Dr. Beverly Daniel Tatum
In today’s political environment, there are topics that are understandably challenging to discuss in schools. How do educational leaders engage in and talk about sensitive issues and keep their community together and focused on the needs of students? We are so thankful to have had Beverly Daniel Tatum on our Leader Chat to provide perspective and advice. She has talked and written extensively on the topic, truly an expert.
12/1/2021 • 36 minutes, 54 seconds
Episode 8: How Can Leaders Stay Grounded, Calm, and Content with Mike Scott
Let’s face it, leading school systems is isolating work. The expectations are often unrealistic, and the conditions are clearly becoming more difficult over time. While leaders can’t often publicly state their state of mind or emotional state, take it from us- their lives, hearts and minds are strained. Something is different though about Mike Scott, superintendent of Hillsboro school district in the Portland metro area. Jeff has been so impressed with Mike over the years, especially his ability to stay grounded, calm and content. We believe leaders learn from other leaders. We all can take something away from listening to Mike’s open and honest perspective- truly a leader of integrity and strength.
11/18/2021 • 35 minutes, 42 seconds
Episode 7: Keeping Your Focus While Leading Through Controversy with Sandy Barbour
Recognized as one of the nation’s premier Athletic Directors, Sandy Barbour enters her eighth year as the dynamic leader of the Penn State Intercollegiate Athletics program. With student success and comprehensive excellence as a steadfast focus, Barbour has helped Penn State to ascend and thrive as one of the nation’s most successful athletic departments.
11/10/2021 • 34 minutes, 50 seconds
Episode 6: Student Engagement and Social Mobility with Andy Hargreaves
Jeff and Andy discuss his book Five Paths of Student Engagement and Moving, A Memoir of Education and Social Mobility, and all the implications for educational leaders in today's world. This is a MUST listen.
11/3/2021 • 39 minutes, 49 seconds
Episode 5: Culture and Trust with Dr. Mark Elgart
This episode focuses on leadership, culture, and trust. Dr. Rose sits down with our CEO and President of Cognia, Dr. Mark Elgart. Mark has led our organization since 2002. Cognia now serves as the trusted partner with over 36,000 institutions in 85 countries to advance learning for 25 million students! Based on his vast experience, his insights on leadership and what are the most critical opportunities for school systems are insightful and clear.
10/27/2021 • 35 minutes, 44 seconds
Episode 4: High Conflict with Amanda Ripley
Wait until you hear this Leader Chat. This conversation is as relevant as it gets for today’s educational leaders. This is the most polarizing time in our era and high conflict is seriously dominating our day-to-day narrative. Jeff is constantly looking for guests who can help with challenges the leaders we support are facing, and this podcast hits the nail on the head. Amanda’s Book, High Conflict: Why We Get Trapped and How We Get Out is exactly what we need to read, or in this case hear about.
10/20/2021 • 36 minutes, 39 seconds
Episode 3: The Future of Leading Schools with Dr. Philip Lanoue
Phil Lanoue is an experienced leader with impressive and thoughtful insights into leadership. Dr. Lanoue is the 2015 American Association of School Administrators National Superintendent of the Year, and the co-author of three books: Developing the Organizational Culture of the Central Office, The Emerging Work of Today’s Superintendent, and Navigating the Unknown in Education.
10/13/2021 • 35 minutes, 11 seconds
Episode 2: Staying Motivated with Damon West
Overcoming life’s hurdles is relative. If you are challenged leading during these difficult times, this is the Leader Chat for you. Damon West, who once served a sentence in a maximum-security prison, now is a professor, best-selling author, and coveted speaker, joins us. His energy is infectious.
Disclaimer: the audio issues at the beginning of the recording do get resolved a few minutes in.
10/6/2021 • 33 minutes, 59 seconds
Episode 1: Blasting Off with a Dose of Jon Gordon
In this inaugural Leader Chat, we are thrilled that the legend, Jon Gordon was able to join us. Dr. Jeff Rose talks with Jon about the challenge of leading with positivity during difficult times, Jon’s passion for supporting educators, and his upcoming visit to Atlanta. Jeff then goes on to describe the “why,” “what,” and ‘how” of our future Leader Chats.
9/29/2021 • 37 minutes, 27 seconds
Staying Positive During Difficult Times with Jon Gordon
We start this podcast with a big announcement. Exciting changes ahead! Then, best selling author and the master of motivation Jon Gordon talks with us about leading fueled by the power of positivity.
9/17/2021 • 54 minutes, 42 seconds
Leader Chat with Dr. Curtis Jones, Superintendent of the Year
Dr. Curtis Jones, Jr. 2019 National Superintendent of the Year! Dr. Jones, a passionate educator dedicated to developing students as scholars, leaders and good citizens, joined the Bibb County School District in April 2015. When he joined the district, Dr. Jones set one of his first long-term goals as raising the district’s graduation rate to 90 percent by 2025. The district has made great gains in improving its graduation rate, which was 58.9 percent in 2014 and rose to 76.1 percent in 2020. Under his leadership, the Bibb County School District has been cited for its work to advance the district and its students, simply too many to list!
3/24/2021 • 21 minutes, 31 seconds
Navigating Political Chaos- Leader Chat with Noelle Ellerson Ng
Noelle Ellerson Ng joined AASA in 2007 as a policy analyst. As associate executive director, she directs the advocacy and governance efforts of AASA. In this role she spearheads the organization’s work with Congress and the U.S. Department of Education. Her team is responsible for representing the voice and priorities of the nation’s public school superintendents in all aspects of federal education policy and uses member networks, outreach, policy analysis, and surveys and research to advance their work. She is responsible for the organization’s governance work, including direct support and management for the executive committee and governing board, as well as our 49 chartered state affiliates.
3/18/2021 • 24 minutes, 22 seconds
Perseverance Event- Leader Chat with Eric Lent
Eric Lent is Chief Marketing Officer at World 50. Prior to World 50, Eric was the Senior Vice President, Upscale Brands at Intercontinental Hotels Group (IHG) where he was responsible for driving demand and achieving global growth objectives for a +$5 Bln business unit. Outside of work, Eric is an advisor to 48in48, an organization dedicated to building websites for nonprofits. Previously, he served as Board Chairman for the Towson University College of Business and Economics, where he received the Dean’s Recognition Award for his lifetime of career successes.
3/16/2021 • 21 minutes, 13 seconds
Black History Month- Leader Chat with Dr. Tarece Johnson
Dr. Tarece Johnson (goes by Dr. Tarece) is the first ever African American Female Board Member in Gwinnett County, GA. The first Black Board member was elected just two years ago. She earned a BA from La Universidad del Sagrado Corazón (Puerto Rico) and a MPA (Columbia University), a MBA (Emory University), and doctorate in education! She is an educational leader, entrepreneur, and teacher. She is a diversity, equity, inclusion, justice professional, advocate, activist, author, and an artist.
2/28/2021 • 42 minutes, 1 second
Black History Month- Leader Chat with Dr. Nicole Holmes
Dr. Nicole Holmes is the Chief Academic officer in Cherokee County Schools. Dr. Holmes, who has 22 years of educational experience including 14 years in leadership, earned her bachelor's degree in early childhood education from Spelman College followed by a master's degree in the field from Brenau University. She earned leadership and supervision certification from Jacksonville State University and her doctorate in teacher leadership from Walden University. After teaching in Atlanta and Cobb public schools, Dr. Holmes joined CCSD in 2002 as assistant principal of Bascomb Elementary School and continued in that role for three years.
2/24/2021 • 40 minutes, 17 seconds
Black History Month- Leader Chat with Dr. Duke Bradley
Dr. Duke Bradley is the Deputy Superintendent/Chief of Schools for the Beauford County School District in South Carolina. Dr. Bradley holds a B.A. in English Literature from Morehouse College, M.A.T. from Brown University, a law degree from John Marshall Law School and a Ph.D. in Educational Leadership from The University of Southern Mississippi. He has also completed the Harvard University Graduate School of Education’s Leading Change in Education Systems Program of Study. Dr. Bradley was also the Principal of Banneker High School in Fulton County GA- a SPECTACULAR and INSPIRATIONAL story of the power of leadership and community.
2/22/2021 • 32 minutes, 42 seconds
Honoring Black History Month- Leader Chat with Dr. Reva Cosby
Dr. Reva Cosby is the Superintendent of Trotwood-Madison City Schools in Ohio, and the past superintendent of Healthy City Schools, near Cincinnati. We know women are underrepresented in top school district leadership roles. We also know men and men AND women of color are unrepresented as well. As we celebrate Black History Month, Reva's perspective honors her own accomplishments and gives us all hope for the future.
2/17/2021 • 40 minutes, 31 seconds
“Serious” Leaders Need Self-Care, Too- with Dr. Palena Neale
Despite the well-known benefits, many leaders remain resistant to the whole idea of self-care. This resistance often stems from a feeling that self-care is a sign of weakness, a feeling that they just don’t have time, or just generally rolling their eyes at the entire concept. Based Palena's experience as a leadership coach, Dr. Neale offers several suggestions to help leaders see the benefits of self-care, as well as some concrete strategies to incorporate self-care practices into your daily routine
2/17/2021 • 28 minutes, 1 second
Challenges & Hopes of District Leadership: with Hank Harris
Ever worry about future superintendent candidates? Are your curious about how to attract great leaders to your district? Hank Harris, president of Human Capital Enterprises, has worked with thousands of superintendents and district leaders. His insights are extremely helpful, and we look forward to continuing our discussion.
2/17/2021 • 42 minutes, 9 seconds
The Challenges with opening Schools and Keeping them Open- Northmont City Schools
Tony Thomas (Superintendent) and Amy Sipes, Director of Human Resources for Northmont City Schools in Ohio transparently discuss strategies and the ups/downs of supporting students by having them in face-to-face instruction with teachers.
2/17/2021 • 48 minutes, 37 seconds
Equity and a Culture of Love- Leader Chat with Luvelle Brown
Luvelle Brown is an experienced educator who has held positions as a teacher, assistant principal, principal, school CIO, and Superintendent of Schools. Currently, Dr. Brown is serving as the Superintendent of the Ithaca City School District (ICSD) in Ithaca, New York. During his tenure in Ithaca, the Ithaca City School District has experienced unprecedented levels of success. He is the author of Culture of Love: Cultivating a Positive and Transformational Organizational Culture
2/9/2021 • 15 minutes, 33 seconds
Educators Integrating Mindfulness into their Lives- Leader Chat with Kristin McKeown
Kristin McKeown helps hard-working educators manage their stress, integrate mindfulness and meditation into their lives, and find the balance that allows them to be at their best. Kristin discusses with me her "why" and her methods to support dedicated teachers and leaders.
2/4/2021 • 42 minutes, 45 seconds
Courageous Conversations About Race and Schools with Glenn Singleton
Glenn E. Singleton has devoted over thirty years to constructing racial equity worldwide and developing leaders to do the same. He is the author of Courageous Conversations About Race: A Field Guide for Achieving Equity in Schools (2006 & 2014), a protocol for sustained, deep dialog, and the creator Beyond Diversity, the curriculum that has taught hundreds of thousands of people how to use it. As President and Founder of Pacific Educational Group, Singleton has created an agency that has developed racially conscious leaders in a variety of sectors: education, government, business, law enforcement, and community organizing among them.
2/1/2021 • 26 minutes, 30 seconds
The Pandemic Population with Tim Elmore
Have you faced challenges leading people of various ages and generations through the emotional challenges of our COVID pandemic? Has supporting your students been tough? The answers to these questions are obviously, YES. As leaders, you are learners! So, join us! Dr. Tim Elmore is passionate about understanding the emerging generation and helping adults teach them how to become leaders in their schools, communities and careers. His new book, 'The Pandemic Population' is so helpful for us as leaders know how to support our students.
1/28/2021 • 36 minutes, 10 seconds
A Crisis in Leadership with Dr. Clayton Wilcox
Dr. Clayton Wilcox is a proven leader with a demonstrated record of accomplishment in the private and public sectors. He has served as a superintendent of Charlotte-Mecklenburg Schools, Washington County Public Schools, Pinellas County Schools, and East Baton Rouge Parish School System. In this Leader Chat, Clayton talks to us about his new book, A Crisis in Leadership. His honest insights are helpful for School District Leaders to hear.
1/26/2021 • 39 minutes, 11 seconds
Leading Amidst Political Chaos
School District Leaders know first hand that political conflict impacts their leadership and those they serve whether it be local, statewide, or at the national level. I invite you to listen to these Leading Ed members to hear their thoughts, ideas, and questions.
1/20/2021 • 48 minutes, 3 seconds
Tough times without answers in sight with Maureen Downey
Maureen Downey a longtime reporter for the AJC where she has written editorials and opinion pieces about local, state and federal education policy for more than 20 years. She joins me to discuss the significance of our current educational challenges. You can contact her at maureen.downey@ajc.com with questions, comments, or to submit a guest article.
8/29/2020 • 59 minutes, 54 seconds
Amidst COVID & the Fight for Equity, Leaders Inspire
Morcease Beasley, the superintendent of Clayton County Schools, shines as a leader of his schools and community during this time of need. His message inspires and gives us hope.
8/23/2020 • 39 minutes, 34 seconds
National Perspective with Dan Gordon, School Reopening Amidst COVID
Dan Gordon, Senior Legal and Policy Advisor for Ed Council in Washington DC, joins me to talk about our future challenges and opportunities in schools due to our growing COVID pandemic.
8/1/2020 • 52 minutes, 23 seconds
Reopening Schools Amidst COVID Chaos
Part 1. The decision to reopen schools is a complex and political lose-lose situation.
7/25/2020 • 39 minutes, 15 seconds
COVID-19 Closing The Doors Of Schools
Imagine the weight on the shoulders of leaders, as they are forced to decide on closing down schools as we know it. The impact of doing for students and communities can easily be misunderstood. Brian Hightower, Superintendent of Cherokee County Schools, joins me as we discuss the critical factors that lead and guide such a difficult decisions.
3/22/2020 • 45 minutes, 7 seconds
From The Superintendent Chair, Episode 1
Here I interview GA local, now the superintendent of Kent School District in WA . . . Dr. Calvin Watts
11/30/2019 • 47 minutes, 56 seconds
The Line That Unites Us, Part 2
Ameera Joe, the Intersect Director for North Point Community Church in Alpharetta GA, joins us to talk about what is possible when schools and churches are willing to partner for the benefit of 'our' kids.
9/13/2019 • 29 minutes, 53 seconds
The Line That Unites Us, Part 1
Kevin Palau, President of the Luis Palau Association joins me to discuss the possibility and strategy to creating partnerships & relationships between schools and faith-based organizations.
9/6/2019 • 46 minutes, 17 seconds
Student Safety & Social Media
Thanks to Titania Jordan, CMO/Chief Parent Officer for Bark, for her valuable insights (www.bark.us)
8/28/2019 • 42 minutes, 39 seconds
Leveraging Your Most Valuable Commodity . . . Time
From a leadership perspective, time management is a tricky task. However, great leaders focus their efforts aligned to their priorities.
7/27/2019 • 34 minutes, 23 seconds
School Culture & Climate with Jerome Huff
Talking about leading culture in the school with a successful principal, Jerome Huff
7/5/2019 • 47 minutes, 51 seconds
Q&A: Transition Strategy, Parent's Role In Education, and Breaking Bad News
For our 2nd Q&A episode, our audience asked some challenging and important questions.
6/21/2019 • 40 minutes, 26 seconds
Thoughts From An Olympic Coach, AKA My Dad
Taking about life, leadership, and learning with my Pop
6/14/2019 • 37 minutes, 59 seconds
Talking About Teacher Morale with GA Teacher of the Year
Allison Townsend and I discuss considerations to honor and support our teachers
6/10/2019 • 33 minutes, 57 seconds
Allison Townsend, 2019 GA Teacher of the Year!
Allison and I discuss the importance of teachers and leaders working in a united fashion.
5/31/2019 • 34 minutes, 33 seconds
What do you want to be known for?
This episode is actually one of my favorites- for the true school and district leadership nerds.
5/25/2019 • 25 minutes, 20 seconds
The Big Debut
I make an important announcement about what is possible when leaders are supported in a collaborative model.
5/17/2019 • 22 minutes, 38 seconds
Leadership Can Be Lonely
Jason and I discuss the fact that leadership is sometimes lonely. While this is and will always be the case, there are things to consider to navigate the isolation.