If there’s anyone who knows about what it takes to make football inclusive, it’s James Laley. As the founder of Rainbow Blades, he’s helped embed diversity in the heart of what Sheffield United does, and it’s not just us saying that either – as James has been recognised not once but twice as this year’s Football v Homophobia Awards. So, we felt it was the perfect time to get James onto the podcast to talk about his journey in football, and the difference he’s making in the beautiful game. We chat about how he discovered Sheffield United at university and fell in love with the club; about the incident that led to him starting Rainbow Blades (and how in some ways, the timing couldn’t have been worse); about the way it’s been embraced by the club; about some of the challenges and goals for the future – and being recognised by the Football v Homophobia Awards in two different categories this year.It’s a cracking conversation with someone who just exudes positivity, and we think you’ll love it! WANT TO FIND OUT MORE ABOUT OUR GUEST?:
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1/31/2024 • 35 minutes, 57 seconds
The One with Mikey Connor
In a way, Mikey Connor has his nan to thank for his love of football.It was her who took him along to Everton games, who encouraged him to give the game a go, and told him that he should give refereeing a go as well.So really, it’s her who Mikey has to thank for his love of the beautiful game which – by his own admission – is now a sport that he absolutely can’t live without. As a former semi-pro ‘keeper, he’s done it as a player – and now, he’s making his way up through the pyramid as a referee, with his eyes firmly set on making it at the highest level that he can as a professional. And as if all of that wasn’t enough, Mikey is also a content creator and a former star of the ground-breaking BBC Three reality TV show ‘I Kissed A Boy’ – so there’s absolutely loads for us to talk about in this episode, which is an absolute corker. We talk about Mikey’s love of football, how it feels when he’s refereeing, his goals and ambitions in the game – as well as why he still fears receiving homophobia on the pitch, his time as a star of ‘I Kissed A Boy’, his own journey with his health and so much more in an absolute corker of a conversation. WANT TO FIND OUT MORE ABOUT OUR GUEST?
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1/24/2024 • 37 minutes, 58 seconds
The One with Pollo Del Mar
There are so many strings that Pollo Del Mar has to their bow that it’s hard to know where to begin!A performer, journalist, activist, philanthropist and campaigner – but our interest today is in Pollo’s position as one of the most prominent LGBTQ+ wrestling personalities out there today. First as a wrestling journalist, Pollo began participating in wrestling personally – as the host of EFFY’s Big Gay Brunch and a manager in various promotions across the West Coast and beyond as well, including as a key part of the NWA. Although Pollo is reluctant to refer to themselves as a pioneer, that’s really what they are – because honestly, how many drag queen wrestling managers have you ever seen?! – and beyond that, they’re an extraordinarily eloquent individual who we think you’ll love. We talk about so much on this pod – where Pollo’s love of wrestling came from, their most memorable moments in the industry, being recognised by others, driving yourself to succeed, the growth of the LGBTQ+ community in wrestling and so, so much more. WANT TO FIND OUT MORE ABOUT OUR GUEST?
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1/17/2024 • 36 minutes, 46 seconds
The One with David Gourlay
With a mother and a father who amounted to bowls royalty, it’s really no surprise that David Gourlay found his way into the sport. But David was determined to make his own way in bowls, and has amassed a whopping seven world indoor titles – including the 1996 World Indoor Singles Championship, as well as three World Men’s Indoor Pairs Championships and three World Mixed Indoor Pairs Championships. And as if success as a player wasn’t enough, David also coached Scotland’s bowls players to four medals at the 2014 Commonwealth Games – and as if that weren’t enough, he was also appointed as an MBE for his services to the sport. David is now the longest-serving player in the World Bowls Tour Top 16 – and with the World Indoor Bowls Championship in full swing at Hopton on Sea, now seemed like the perfect time to get David on for a chat. This is a cracking conversation with a brilliant guest in a sport that we’ve never covered before – as we talk about some of David’s top moments, his experiences in the sport, receiving that MBE, his personal journey and loads, loads more. WANT TO GET IN TOUCH WITH THE PODCAST:
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1/10/2024 • 33 minutes, 45 seconds
The One with Ellia Green
To say that Ellia Green is an incredible athlete would be a dramatic understatement. As a kid, it was athletics – and particularly sprinting - that Ellia excelled at, competing at World Junior Championships, all with the encouragement of an amazing mum who was all in on supporting their journey.Ellia ended up switching to rugby sevens – and in 2016, they were part of the Australian team that took gold at the Olympics in Rio in the first time that the sport had ever taken place at a Games.It was the fulfilment of a dream that had fired Ellia ever since they were a child, and in 2022, Ellia opened up about their journey away from sport with their gender identity when they spoke publicly for the first time about their journey as a trans man. We’re delighted to have Ellia on the podcast today to talk about all of that – as we chat about all of that and so much more in a conversation that touches on being true to who you are, becoming a father, achieving your Olympic dreams and so, so much more. WANT TO FIND OUT MORE ABOUT OUR GUEST?
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1/3/2024 • 31 minutes, 33 seconds
The One with the 2023 Best Bits
2023 is almost at an end – and in many ways, this has been the biggest year that the BBC’s LGBT Sport Podcast has ever had. More guests telling more stories in more places and more ways than ever before – so to round out the year, we thought we’d remind ourselves of some of the most memorable moments that we’ve had on the podcast between January and December.World Cup winners, Olympic gold medallists, rugby and football internationals, wrestling superstars, folks who came out for the first time in 2023, and the ones who paved the way for them to do so.They’re all in this special episode to round out the year – and we really think you’re going to like it.WANT TO GET IN TOUCH WITH THE PODCAST:
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12/27/2023 • 39 minutes, 22 seconds
The One with John-Edward Heath
John-Edward Heath is someone who lives and breaths sport. A powerlifter, a snowboarder, a Crossfit competitor and an adaptive athlete with dreams of medalling on the grandest stages of them all – John-Edward is a man with big ambitions and the drive to match.But he’s also a man who has had to overcome extraordinary obstacles. As a child, he experienced homelessness; as a gay Marine, he was outed; he had to deal with the trauma of a partner and a best friend taking their own lives; and, after being hit by a drunk-driver and experiencing a significant number of medical difficulties and complications, he made the decision to have his lower leg removed.With all of that trauma, you might think that John-Edward was consumed by negativity – but actually, the reverse is true, and the American adaptive athlete is focused on competing at the Paralympics and the grandest stages that sport has to offer, and of raising others up along the way.We talk about all of that in this episode – including how he discovered sport was for him, understanding his own sexuality, the idea of being ‘inspirational’ and loads more besides, in a truly memorable episode. WANT TO FIND OUT MORE ABOUT OUR GUESTS?
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12/20/2023 • 35 minutes, 46 seconds
The Second One with Adam Bolt
It was one year ago, almost exactly to the year, that Adam Bolt made his debut on this podcast. And since then, it’s fair to say that the British grappler has gone from strength-to-strength in a way that not even he thought would be possible. The Doncaster native has had millions of views across social media from people eager to hear more about his inspiring story outside of the ring – while inside the squared circle, he’s claimed the UK’s first-ever Pride title after main-eventing the WAW Pride Show in Norwich with former podcast guest Mitchell Starr. That bout was nominated for the Match of the Year at the QWI Awards, where Adam was up for numerous accolades – and he cracked the QWI200 as well, ranking for the first time amongst the elite LGBTQ+ wrestlers in the world. So, as we head towards the end of 2023, we thought it was high-time to get Adam back onto the podcast to talk about their year – and what they want 2024 to bring their way as well. From dream matches to dealing with pressure to representation for people who don’t always feel represented, this is a cracking conversation with one of our favourites that we really hope you’d like. WANT TO FIND OUT MORE ABOUT OUR GUEST?
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12/13/2023 • 38 minutes, 55 seconds
The One with Jamie Ayshford
When Jamie Ayshford dropped us a message, asking to come on to talk about the joys of spin, we were always going to say ‘yes’ to having him on. Partly, it’s because we’re always passionate about covering a sport or type of activity that we haven’t done before – and partly, because Jamie is so blinking passionate about it!He credits it with helping him with his mental health and empowering to accept who he is as an LGBTQ+ individual – and that’s the story that you’re going to hear over the course of what really is a fabulous conversation.We chat about how sport at school wasn’t really his thing, partly because he wasn’t allowed to do the sport he wanted to do; coming to terms with his sexuality and how indoor cycling helped him do that; the empowerment of working out alongside other members of the LGBTQ+ community; why he is so committed to helping others – and so much more besides.It’s a great, uplifting conversation that reminds us how important sport at the grassroots level is to your mental and physical wellbeing – and we couldn’t ask for a better advocate for it than Jamie. FIND OUT MORE ABOUT OUR GUEST:
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12/6/2023 • 33 minutes, 25 seconds
The One with Hedvig Lindahl
It’s hard to put into perspective the things that Hedvig Lindahl has been able to accomplish in the beautiful game. With nearly two-hundred caps for Sweden, she is – by some distance – the most-capped Swedish goalkeeper of all-time. Her international career has seen her reach the World Cup Final in 2003, along with two Olympic silver medals, two World Cup bronzes and three bronzes from the European Championships – while her domestic career includes two WSL titles with Chelsea, along with the Super Copa in Spain and a double won in Germany as well.She counts Wolfsburg and Atletico Madrid amongst her former teams – and we are absolutely over the moon to have on a player who dreamed of becoming the best goalkeeper in the world, and absolutely made it happen. It’s an amazing conversation that touches on everything from playing as a kid between two apple tress in her garden to her burning desire to be the best; along with the fight for equality, in sport and in life, her journey with her own sexuality – and whether or not she is retired!Honestly, this is a belter – and we’re delighted Hedvig has joined us for it! WANT TO FIND OUT MORE ABOUT OUR GUEST?
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11/29/2023 • 37 minutes, 32 seconds
The One with Jake Daniels
It’s been more than a year since Jake Daniels made history.
Still just a teenager, the Blackpool player came out publicly as gay – and become the first active British male footballer to come out while still playing since Justin Fashanu.
Life has been a whirlwind for Jake since then – and we’re delighted that he’s found the time to join us on the podcast for an episode that we know so many of you have been desperate to hear.
And this isn’t just an episode about Jake’s decision to come out – but about the impact it has had on his mental health, and why Jake has teamed up with the Movember charity to help ensure others are beginning to have conversations about how they are feeling.
We talk about Jake’s journey in football; his decision to come out; the reaction to it; his take on things like the Qatar World Cup and the upcoming World Cup in Saudi Arabia; what needs to be done to make the game more inclusive – and loads, loads more.
This is an episode with someone who has rightly been lauded as a game-changer in British sport – and we can’t wait for you to hear it.
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11/22/2023 • 27 minutes, 39 seconds
The One with the Best Out and About Bits
There’s nothing better than getting to take this show on the road!
And that’s what we’re celebrating on the podcast today with a bumper compilation episode, looking at some of the best people and places that we’ve been able to take the show to since 2018.
From the beaches of Cornwall to Wembley Way, to one of the UK’s most iconic cricket clubs to a training centre for the fastest-rising British wrestling talent, this special show highlights some of the amazing ‘out and about’ stories that we’ve been able to tell on the show.
Cricket, wrestling, swimming, football, surging – even bits that we’d forgotten we’d done! – they’re all here in this very special episode.
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11/22/2023 • 39 minutes, 53 seconds
The Second One with Richard Morris
We last had Richard on the podcast for our 50th episode – and at the time, we described him as a modern-day James Bond – a racing driver with a doctorate for Cambridge who also fenced at the international level for England and Great Britain.
Since then, he’s gone from strength-to-strength, competing for Revolution Race Cars in the European Sports Prototype Cup – where just days ago, he clinched the Championship with a double-win at Le Mans.
As the co-founder of Racing Pride, he’s spent years working to make motorsport more inclusive – and as the chair of the Motorsport UK LGBTQ+ Expert Committee, he’s also had a pretty big week himself, as you’ll hear in this episode.
So, there really was no better time to invite Richard back onto the podcast for a chat up about his career, his achievements, Racing Pride, racing alongside Sir Chris Hoy and loads, loads more.
It’s a cracker of a conversation, and we think you’re going to love it.
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11/15/2023 • 37 minutes, 30 seconds
The One with Jason Joshua
If you’ve been watching British wrestling for a while, you’ll probably have seen Jason Joshua in action.
Sovereign Pro Wrestling, WAW, Full Force Wrestling, the self-proclaimed ‘Big Daddy Unicorn’ has been plying his trade across the UK scene – and now, he’s joining us on the podcast to talk about his journey, in and away from the ring.
We get into who inspired him to give wrestling a try; finding a character that suited him; his most memorable matches and moments; his own story when it comes to finding out who he is as a person and loads, loads more.
But it’s also a powerful and moving conversation about mental health, overcoming anxiety – and how the love of a good partner can push you to do things you never dreamed that you’d be able to accomplish.
We always love talking professional wrestling on this podcast – and we hope you’ll enjoy hearing this conversation as much as we enjoyed having it.
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11/8/2023 • 36 minutes, 35 seconds
The Second One with Ben Watkiss
The last time that Ben Watkiss was on the podcast, he was working for League One’s Burton Albion as a strength and conditioning coach.
Now, he’s crossed the border to Scotland – where he’s working as the Lead Sport Scientist for Ayr United, who play in the Scottish Championship where they’re currently sitting in a mid-table position.
And the last time Ben was on, back in April of 2021, men’s football looked like a very different place – with no Jakub Jankto, no Jake Daniels, no Josh Cavallo, no Zander Murray, no James Adcock when it came to out, visible gay male role-models in the men’s game.
So, we thought it was high-time to get Ben back on the podcast to have a catch-up, both about his life and how the men’s game has changed over the past couple of years.
We talk adapting to life in Scotland, doing his job during the pandemic, being an out gay man in football, how Ayr United helped him share his story with the club and loads, loads more.
As always, Ben is a brilliant guest to have – open, honest, chatty, upbeat and really good value as a person to chat with – so we think you’re really going to like this conversation.
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11/1/2023 • 31 minutes, 42 seconds
The One with Devin Ibanez
It’s hard to imagine Devin Ibanez living a life without rugby.
He played for Major League Rugby’s New England Free Jacks in the USA in their inaugural season, took gold with Team USA at the World Maccabiah (Maccabee) Games in Israel in 2017 and represented Richmond in the Championship in the UK.
And if all of that wasn’t a tip-off that Devin loves the game, his social media handle – ‘that gay rugger’ – should really be the giveaway.
But coming to a point where Devin could speak about his two truths – his love of rugby, and his love of his boyfriend Fergus – in the same breath was a remarkable journey, in and of itself, and it’s one we’re so delighted to be talking about with Devin on the podcast today.
We talk about where his love of rugby came from, pursuing his dreams to play at the highest level, his decision to come out, the reaction that got and life for Devin now.
We think you’ll love this conversation – and we’re really glad Devin made the time to join us for it.
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10/25/2023 • 35 minutes, 17 seconds
The One with Jakub Jankto
It was in February of this year that Jakub Jankto looked down the lens of a camera and told the world that he was gay.
The 27-year old’s motivation was simple – he no longer wanted to live in fear or in hiding – and while his message was simple, the reaction was overwhelming.
Support came in from some of the biggest names in the beautiful game, as Jankto made history as the most high-profile active male footballer to open up about their sexuality – and for a little while, we’ve been chatting about having him join us here on the podcast.
We’re delighted that today is the day we make that happen as Jakub joins us for his first-ever podcast interview to talk about his love of football, some of his most memorable moments, his decision to come out, the reaction to it and so much more.
It’s an episode we’re so chuffed to bring you, and we hope you like it as much as we do!
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10/18/2023 • 32 minutes, 20 seconds
The One for National Coming Out Day 2023
October 11th is National Coming Out Day.
It’s a worldwide anniversary that celebrates the bravery of those who have found the strength to live authentically and open up about their sexuality or gender identity, and to recognise the challenges and hurdles that still prevent people from doing just that.
And to mark the occasion, we’ve got a special bumper edition of the podcast celebrating some of the most powerful ‘coming out’ stories that we’ve been able to share on the show over the past five years.
It features Olympic legends and world champions; world record holders and wrestling superstars; top officials, British number 1s, MMA trailblazers and loads, loads more besides.
It’s a compendium of courageous coming out stories – and we really hope you enjoy it.
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10/11/2023 • 40 minutes, 14 seconds
The One with Charlotte Galloway
You know that you’re going to like someone when they describe their identity as a non-binary bisexual as ‘joyful chaos’ – and that’s exactly how Charlotte Galloway talks about herself.
But it’s just one part of Charlotte’s personality, which is as much tied up in their love of football, which manifests itself in her role as both the chair of Cardiff Dragons and as the co-founder of the Women's Football Collective, which styles itself as a training centre for ‘Her Game Too’ campaign.
So, it’s clear that football is a huge passion in Charlotte’s life, so that’s where we start this conversation – but it rapidly becomes a chat about so much more than just the beautiful game.
From playing with the boys when she was starting out to the role of a chairperson; to realising her bisexuality was enough to starting the WFC, this is a fascinating conversation with one of Wales’ top football advocates, and we’re delighted to have her on the podcast.
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10/4/2023 • 35 minutes, 44 seconds
The One with Maggie Alphonsi
Maggie Alphonsi is one of the most decorated rugby players in English history.
A World Cup winner who played for the Red Roses in three finals, she helped England claim seven consecutive Six Nations title in a career that saw her win 74 caps for her country.
For achievements on the pitch, she’s been recognised with an MBE and named as the International Rugby Board’s Women’s Player of the Year – and since retiring, she’s broken boundaries as broadcaster with Sky and ITV.
She’s also had a Number 1 single, is a wife and a mother to two beautiful children – and as if all of that didn’t sound like enough, she’s just written her autobiography looking at her extraordinary journey, on and off the pitch.
So it is a massive thrill to have Maggie with us on the podcast today to talk all about it in an episode that I genuinely think is ‘can’t-miss’ – much like the book, which I got through in a day.
We talk about the writing process, about getting into rugby as a youngster, about her England career, about coming out – honestly, it’s a superb chat with a genuine legend, and we think you’ll love it.
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9/27/2023 • 33 minutes, 26 seconds
The One with Ryan O'Callaghan
On the face of it, Ryan O’Callaghan was living the dream.
The offensive tackle was a stand-out collegiate football player who was drafted to play alongside Tom Brady at the New England Patriots.
He should have had it all – fame, fortune, all the trappings that came with it – but for Ryan, football was never a game he loved, but a way to hide the fact he was gay.
It was something he did throughout his career – and it was only in 2017 that he decided to open up publicly about his sexuality for the first time, as one of the very few NFL players to have ever spoken up about the fact they were gay.
Ryan now uses his platform to help and support others – and we’re delighted to have him on the podcast today.
This isn’t always an easy listen – we talk about Ryan’s mental health and why, at points, he felt like taking his own life – and in the description box of this episode, we’ve put a link to the BBC Action Line and other places you can find support if you or someone you know have been affected by his story.
But I’d urge you to listen to this whole episode, as it really is an extraordinary conversation with a brilliant guest that we think will stick with you for a long time.
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9/20/2023 • 33 minutes, 18 seconds
The One on the Rainbow Games
A big event deserves a big guest, and we’ve got two of them to join us on the podcast as we look ahead to the first-ever Rainbow Games in New Zealand next year.
Tom Leonard is the event director – and Honey Hireme-Smiler is someone who can only described as a New Zealand sporting legend, as a league, union and sevens international who has played at more World Cups than you can shake a stick at in a sporting career that spans nearly two decades.
We talk about all sorts of different things on this episode – how the Rainbow Games came about, why it matters, the importance of sport to both Tom and Honey, why visibility matters and so, so much more.
It’s a great conversation about a brilliant new event, and we really think you’re going to like it.
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9/13/2023 • 34 minutes, 24 seconds
The One with Christian Hewgill
If you’re listening to this episode, you probably love Formula 1 – but not as much as Christian Hewgill does.
Because, if we’re honest, few people in the world do.
He’s the host of ‘The Fast and The Curious’ podcast with Betty Glover and Greg James, the ‘F1 Explains’ podcast – and a regular contributor to BBC Radio 5Live’s F1 coverage.
For years, he was one of the voices of sport on BBC Radio 1’s Newsbeat programme – and it’s not just Formula 1 either, with Leicester City another one of Christian’s passions.
So, with all of that in mind, it’s amazing it’s taken us so long to get Christian onto the podcast – but boy, was the wait worth it, because this is an amazing chat with a fantastic guest.
We talk about Christian’s love of F1 and where that’s taken him; some of the most memorable events that he’s been able to cover; his work with Foxes Pride and Racing Pride; the importance of visibility in sport and so, so much more.
It’s a cracking conversation with Christian – and we think you’re going to love it.
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9/6/2023 • 39 minutes, 44 seconds
The One with Tia Fernandez
Tia Fernandez loves being out and about in the great outdoors.
She’s a member of Queer Surf Club – who we’ve featured on this show before – but in the not-too-distant future, she’s hoping to go from the beach to the far ends of the Earth in a bid to make history as the first queer person of colour to reach the Northern Pole of Inaccessibility.
And when we heard that Tia was attempting to do something like that, then we knew we had no choice but to get her on for a chat.
And what a conversation this is – and while we appreciate many of you won’t have heard of Tia before, we urge you to stay listening because this is an amazing episode.
We talk about her love of being active and finding her place in surfing and scuba diving; the expedition she’s planning to be a part of; the importance of representation; Tia’s own experiences of racism; and of being a queer person of colour in field where folks like her simply haven’t been before.
It’s an amazing conversation – and one we think you’re going to love.
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8/30/2023 • 36 minutes, 26 seconds
The One with Dominic Clarke
Dominic Clarke is one of those people who has lived enough life for about three lifetimes – and he’s barely hitting his stride!
A trampoline gymnast who has competed around the world – including at the Tokyo Olympics, and winning bronze at World Championship level – he’s now a Cirque du Soleil artist for the Michael Jackson ‘ONE’ show in Las Vegas.
Oh – and did we mention that he successfully auditioned for Australia’s version of ‘The Voice’?!
Like we say, we weren’t ever going to be short of things to talk to Dominic about, and we’re delighted he found the time to join us from Las Vegas to talk all about his amazing career – and his journey with his sexuality away from sport as well.
It’s every bit of the conversation that you’d hope to have with someone like Dom – funny, frank, honest and full of amazing tales – and we think you’re absolutely going to love it!
We talk about his love of sport; his decision to come out and some of the stereotypes in gymnastics that made that difficult; the reaction he had; preparation for the Tokyo Olympics in the midst of COVID; The Voice; and so, so much more.
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8/23/2023 • 37 minutes, 32 seconds
The One with Callum Prince
Callum Prince is someone who lives and breathes football.
In fact, it’s hard to pick a part of the beautiful game that he’s not involved with!
He’s a member of the GFSN Committee, a player with Nottingham Lions, a consultant with Burton Albion on their Equality, Diversity and Inclusion work – and that’s just scratching the surface.
He’s someone that we’ve wanted to have on for a while, and we’re delighted to have him on the podcast today – especially since he joined us from Malta where the Lions are currently having a summer break.
We talk to Callum about all sorts of things – his experiences in the beautiful game (including the homophobia he has dealt with); the joys of coaching; working with his childhood team to showcase the value of inclusion; the importance of inclusive clubs – and loads, loads more besides.
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8/16/2023 • 34 minutes, 13 seconds
The One with Sonny Kiss
She’s a key part of the AEW roster – a gender-fluid, transfeminine performer who uses she/ her and they/them pronouns and wrestles in the men’s division.
In fact, Sonny Kiss defies definition in so many ways – and while Sonny entered AEW as the self-proclaimed ‘Concrete Rose’, the wrestler has evolved as both a person and a competitor during her more than three years in the spotlight, including the more villainous persona we see at the moment!
She’s someone we’ve wanted to have on the podcast for a long time – especially as you know we love professional wrestling! – and today, we’re making it happen in a big way with an absolutely superb episode.
We talk about her background in dance and performing art; how she got her break in professional wrestling; some of her most memorable moments in AEW; how she came to terms with her sexuality and then her gender identity; her goals for the future; and how she enjoys switching off – along with so, so much more.
If you love wrestling, you’ll love this conversation – and if wrestling isn’t your thing, you’ll still love this chat with a brilliant individual!
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8/9/2023 • 30 minutes, 6 seconds
The Second One with Jake Williamson
It’s been about two years since Jake Williamson joined us on the podcast for the first time – and since then, his career has gone from strength to strength.
Not only have you seen Jake compete Hyrox events and ultra-marathons, but he’s also using his platform to try and make sport a place where LGBTQ+ people feel welcome.
It’s been too long since we’ve had a proper chat with Jake, so it was high time that we got him back onto the podcast to talk about his journey since then.
We talk about all sorts of things – Jake’s coming out journey; his progress in the world of athletics; using his platform to help others as an advocate; modelling; the future and loads, loads more.
We always love chatting with Jake, and we think you’ll love this episode!
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8/2/2023 • 36 minutes, 48 seconds
The One for the 2023 Women's World Cup
With the Women’s World Cup in full swing in Australia and New Zealand, we thought we’d put together a special episode featuring some of the amazing women from the beautiful game who have joined us on the podcast since 2018.
We’re talking pundits, journalists, pioneers, record-breakers and more – as we remind ourselves of some of the brilliant female football folk who have shared their stories with us.
So, coming up on this episode, you’ll hear from:
- Former USWNT Head Coach Jill Ellis
- Former England international Anita Asante
- Welsh football legend Jess Fishlock
- Welsh football pioneer Laura McAllister
- Former Crystal Palace and Spurs goalkeeper Chloe Morgan
- BBC Sport Lionesses reporter Jo Currie
It’s a brilliant trip down memory lane with some fantastic guests who you may not have heard first time round – so we think you’re going to love it!
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7/26/2023 • 35 minutes, 21 seconds
The One with Ryan Lucas-Lowther
It was last month that British weightlifter Ryan Lucas-Lowther decided to open about his sexuality in a conversation for Pride Month.
We saw it – and if you listen to this show, you probably did as well – which is why we’re so delighted to get him onto the podcast to talk about his journey in full.
He’s one of only a handful of weightlifters that we’ve had on the podcast before, so it was a chance for us to really delve into the sport – and Ryan’s journey, both in it and away from it as well.
We talk about whether he was sporty growing up; his journey into fitness and weightlifting; some of his highlights in the sport; understanding his sexuality and being out and open about it – it really is a top conversation with a great guest that we think you’re going to love.
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7/19/2023 • 33 minutes, 23 seconds
The One with Ed Slattery
Ed Slattery has a passion for taking elite athletes to the next level as a hugely experienced strength and conditioning coach who has worked with Irish Rugby for coming up in a decade.
Take a listen to this CV – Athletics Performance Coach for Irish women’s rugby; Athletic Performance Coach for Sevens and Womens Rugby; Athletic Performance Coach for Mens Rugby; and now his current role as Head of Athletic Performance for the Womens Pathways and National team.
What that means, to you and me, is that he’s absolutely brilliant at helping get the absolute best out of players across the Irish national rugby set-up – and that has taken him through Six Nations campaigns, to the Tokyo Olympics and so much more.
He’s also been a long-time listener to the podcast – and when we started chatting about him coming on, he was more than happy to join us – even if he was worried he wouldn’t have anything interesting to say.
Turns out he was wrong about that, as he’s a brilliant guest, and we get into all sorts of things!
We talk about the skills of high-performance coaching and getting into it in the first place; about getting players on-board and seeing results; the Tokyo Olympics and that experience with Ed; his own personal journey and how being his authentic self made him a better coach; and loads, loads more.
This isn’t Ed’s ‘coming out’ story, as more than a few folks know his story – but plenty of others don’t so we hope you enjoy it, as it’s a cracking conversation with a great guy.
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7/12/2023 • 36 minutes, 19 seconds
The One with Georgia Adams
In many ways, it was inevitable that Georgia Adams was going to get into cricket.
After all, her dad is former Sussex captain Chris Adams – and some of Georgia’s earliest memories are of watching him play, throwing a ball around, and itching to get into the game herself.
That’s exactly what she’s ended up doing – and now plies her trade for Southern Vipers, who she captains.
In fact, she was the Vipers’ stand-out player in their Rachael Heyhoe Flint trophy-winning team of 2020 when she was the competition’s leading run scorer with 500 – and when they retained the trophy in 2021 – and honestly, she’s an absolutely brilliant guest to chat to today.
There’s so much in here – the art of captaincy, the growth of the women’s game, allowing herself to be vulnerable, accepting her own sexuality, and so, so much more!
There are some guests you just click with instantly, and Georgia is one of them – and we really, really think you’re going to love this one.
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7/5/2023 • 37 minutes, 29 seconds
The One from House of Pain Wrestling Academy
It’s no secret that we love professional wrestling on this show – so when we had the chance to record a programme live on location at the House of Pain Wrestling Academy in Nottingham, we absolutely weren’t going to turn it down.
Our main guest was British wrestling star Adam Bolt – who has been on this podcast before, and has inspired many wrestlers to open up about their own journey since he shared his bisexuality publicly a couple of years back.
But we wanted to go beyond that as well – so we’re also joined by Adam’s tag-team partner Jackie T for a great conversation about allyship and supporting Adam as he came out, and by wrestler ZiZi who is ready to share her story publicly for the first time as well.
It’s a cracking episode – lots of laughs, lots of characters, lots of great stories with great people – and we think you’re going to love it.
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6/28/2023 • 31 minutes, 19 seconds
The One with Veda Scott
For a long time, Veda Scott has been one of the ‘go-to’ names on the professional wrestling circuit.
As a competitor, they’ve stepped into the ring for the likes of Ring of Honor, Impact Wrestling and numerous other independent promotions.
And as a commentator, they’ve lent their voice to the action for AEW, New Japan Pro Wrestling, GCW and others.
After finding their space in the wrestling industry, they found their space in the LGBTQ+ community – as a queer, non-binary person who uses the they/ them and she/ her pronouns.
You know we need very little excuse to talk about professional wrestling on this show – and with Veda, we’ve got an absolutely amazing guest to chat with about life inside and outside the squared circle.
We talk about how their got into the business; their favourite moments as a competitor; transitioning to the announce desk and their goals and dreams there; finding their identity as an LGBTQ+ person; being part of a rapidly-growing LGBTQ+ community in wrestling and so, so much more.
It’s a brilliant episode with a great guest, and we can’t wait for you to check it out.
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6/23/2023 • 41 minutes, 38 seconds
The One with the Leicester Wildecats
We’re heading back to the grassroots on the podcast today, as we talk about everything to do with the beautiful game with three members of the Leicester Wildecats LGBTQ+ football team.
It was chair Steve who tipped us off about the club – and its near-thirty year history! –so it was only right that we got him on to have a chat, alongside manager Mike and current player Walid.
We talk to all three of them about their experiences, both on and off the pitch, in what we think is really valuable and interesting conversation.
Walid discusses what it’s like to grow up un a country where it’s illegal to be gay; Steve talks about how he found the club more than a decade ago, and the challenges of being a chair; Mike talks about management and his role with the GFSN – and they all talk about the impact that inclusive football has had on them.
It’s a frank, funny and important conversation that we think you’ll love – and we’re really grateful to all three men for joining us.
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6/21/2023 • 33 minutes, 1 second
The One with The British Elite Athletes Association
They’re two of our favourite people, so it’s great to have former international swimmer Michael Gunning and double Paralympic wheelchair basketball star Robyn Love back to the podcast.
They’ve both been on more than once in our long history – but today is our first chance to chat with them about their new roles with the British Elite Athletes Association.
Michael is the organisation’s new Equality, Diversity and Inclusion Ambassador; and Robyn becomes LGBTQ+ Ambassador – and together, they’ve both got a remit to try and make elite sport a place where everyone feels welcome.
We sat down with them both to hear about the work they’re doing; how they got the roles and what they hope to do with them; how inclusivity has helped each of them in their own careers and so much more.
Plus Robyn talks about life as a mum, Michael talks about what Pride Month means to him – and if you’re old enough to remember Bebo, there’s a little Easter Egg in here for you as well!
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6/14/2023 • 33 minutes, 26 seconds
The Second One from Edgbaston
It’s a special bonus episode today, as we celebrate a little bit of history that’s happening in the world of cricket this Sunday.
It’s the UK’s first-ever LGBTQ+ cricket tournament, and it’s happening at Sutton Coldfield Cricket Club.
It’s an 11 o’clock start and will feature teams from Warwickshire, Worcestershire, Gloucestershire, Middlesex and Northamptonshire – and since it’s Warwickshire who have been instrumental in making this happen, it was only right for us to take a trip to Edgbaston to find out more.
We pulled together a great panel – and by ‘we’, I mean Brigg Ford from Warwickshire who has been a huge help to the podcast over the years for a chat about inclusivity, allyship, coming out, cricket, Harry Potter and so much more.
You’re going to from Warwickshire bowler Liam Norwell; Central Sparks, Birmingham Phoenix and Worcester Rapids player Emily Arlott; and Lachlan Smith from Birmingham Unicorns, who has been instrumental in pulling it altogether.
It’s a cracking episode, and we think you’ll love it!
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6/9/2023 • 26 minutes, 37 seconds
The One with Gus Kenworthy
An Olympic silver medallist, a multiple time world medallist at events around the globe, an elite freestyle skier, a social media sensation – and with more than a million followers on social media, Gus Kenworthy’s profile is almost unrivalled in the world of sport.
He’s also one of the most high-profile gay sportspeople in the world – and, after his retirement following the Winter Olympics in 2022, is still committed to sharing his story in a way that will help people the most.
We’re delighted to have Gus onto the podcast to talk about his life and his journey – and it’s an absolute cracker of a conversation that you can’t miss.
We talk about how Gus got into skiing; his journey in the sport; his experiences with his own sexuality; his iconic coming out; inspiring others – and so, so much more.
It’s funny, it’s real, it’s genuine – and it’s everything you could hope for with a man like Gus.
And then after that, we’ll hear how I got on at this weekend’s FA Cup Final at Wembley when we lit up the stadium in the Pride colours and caught up with the Rainbow Devils and Canal Street Blues.
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6/7/2023 • 40 minutes, 28 seconds
The 300th Episode
On September 25th, 2018, we published the very first episode of the BBC's LGBT Sport Podcast.
Five years later, we make a little bit of history with our landmark 300th episode - and are taking a moment to mark the occasion by reminding ourselves of just a handful of the amazing guests who have joined us to make this show what it is.
On this bumper trip down memory lane, we'll hear from Olympians; World Cup winners; national treasures; wrestling champions and many, many more guests who have sat down to share their story with us.
And more importantly, we'll say thank you to YOU - the people who've come on to talk about your journey; who've subscribed; who've listened; and who've helped in any other way, big or small, to make this podcast what it is today.
Honestly, we couldn't have done it without you.
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5/31/2023 • 57 minutes, 10 seconds
The One with Lee Mitchell
Flamboyant, fierce and never less than full-on when it comes to competition in the ring, Mitchell Starr – the drag queen alter ego of Lee Mitchell - has been competing on the UK wrestling scene for more than a decade, and shows no signs of slowing down.
The grappler has danced, dropped and strutted his way to victories against big names in big bouts under his Starr persona – and, in the process, has tried to make the UK scene a more inclusive scene for the LGBTQ+ community, including last year when he helped put on WAW’s first-ever Pride show.
We’ve wanted to have Lee on the podcast for a long time – and this is a cracking conversation about his life, inside and outside of the ring.
We talk about what it was that inspired him to get into professional wrestling; training and overcoming his own anxiety to fulfil his dream; developing the ‘Mitchell Starr’ persona, and how that challenged stereotypes on what it ‘meant’ to be a wrestler; his own journey as a member of the LGBTQ+ community and lots, lots more!
We make no bones about loving wrestling on this podcast – and if you do as well, we think you’ll love this episode.
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5/24/2023 • 47 minutes, 19 seconds
The One with Paul Poirier
Paul Poirier started skating when he was just a nipper – but while his brothers would chase an ice hockey puck, he would spin and be more creative.
One he discovered figure skating – and particularly ice dance - he’d found his love, and his career in sport has been remarkable.
It includes three Olympic Games, world championship bronze on two separate occasions and, in general, more medals and accolades than you can shake a stick at.
Paul’s also gay and has spoken about his desire to be a role model to LGBTQ+ athletes, which is why we’re so delighted to get him onto the show to talk about his career and his journey, on and off the ice.
This is a cracking conversation with a thoughtful, intelligent and passionate athlete that takes in all sorts of different things – from COVID to competing to coming out, and it’s an absolute gem of an episode that we think you’ll love.
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5/17/2023 • 35 minutes, 37 seconds
The One with Gary Ginnaw
Gary Ginnaw always loved football.
It was, bizarrely, a nil-nil draw with Plymouth that made him fall in love with Charlton Athletic – and from that point onwards, he’d happily spend his time on the terraces, cheering for the Addicks as they made their way to the Premier League.
But Gary's growing understanding of his sexuality meant he ended up stepping away from the game – and it wasn’t until he discovered an inclusive team on his doorstep that he found his way back.
Since then, he hasn’t looked back – and Charlton Invicta has become Gary’s life, along with the GFSN and opening football up to everyone, which is why we're so delighted to have him onto the podcast to talk about his journey, on and off the pitch.
We talk about how much he loves football – and honestly, there are few people more passionate about it than him! – coming to terms with his sexuality; getting back into the game and encouraging others to do the same; Charlton Invicta and GFSN; getting people into the sport and so, so much more.
It’s an absolute belter of a conversation, and we think you’re going to love it.
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5/10/2023 • 37 minutes, 5 seconds
The One with Sarah Jones
It feels like a different age where Sarah Jones made her debut for Wales – and since then, the hockey player has barely looked back on the international stage.
She’s competed in three separate Commonwealth Games for Wales, winning more than 100 caps – and in 2021, she helped Team GB take bronze at the Tokyo Olympics.
She was appointed to the Team Wales Athletes Commission for the Victoria Commonwealth Games in three years – and despite having all of that going on, she’s still found time to join us for a cracking conversation about her journey in the sport and with her sexuality.
We chat about all sorts today – including just how sporty Sarah was growing up; making her way in Welsh hockey and the way that’s evolved; being called up for GB and that medal-winning campaign in Tokyo; sharing her story with her sexuality; and we even manage to fit in a bit of gardening chat as well!
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5/3/2023 • 33 minutes, 43 seconds
The One with Sophie McKinna
Sophie McKinna has her mum to thank for getting her into the shotput.
After all, it was a decision by her to enter Sophie into the throwing event as a child that set Sophie on the road to a remarkable athletics career that has included any number of elite-level events – including world, European and Commonwealth finals, along with an appearance at the Olympics in Tokyo.
Sophie’s currently targeting the Olympics in Paris next year – but before that, she decided she wanted to speak publicly for the first time about her sexuality; and when she messaged, asking if she could do it here on the podcast, we were delighted to have her on.
As we always say, this isn’t a massive ‘coming out’ moment for Sophie – as the people who need to know in her personal and professional life have been aware of the fact she’s gay for a little while now.
But she’s decided she wants to speak out to be a role-model – and we’re delighted she’s chosen our show to do it.
And it’s an absolute cracker of a conversation as well, as we chat about Sophie’s sporting family; her love of Norfolk (and of animals); the highs and lows of life as an athlete; her work as a custody officer; deciding to speak about her sexuality and loads, loads more.
It’s a pleasure to be having this conversation, and we really think you’re going to love hearing it as much as we loved doing it.
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4/26/2023 • 33 minutes, 26 seconds
The One with Brock McGillis
Brock McGillis is a history-maker.
A goaltender who played in his native Canada and the Netherlands, he came out as gay in 2016 – and, since then, has used his platform to try and make ice-hockey a place where everyone feels welcome.
Through speaking out to forming the Alphabet Sports Collective, Brock has a passion for inclusion, which is why we’re so delighted to have him on the podcast to talk about his story, both on and away from the ice.
We talk all about Brock’s journey – from getting into hockey to some of his most memorable moments on the ice; the journey he went on with his sexuality and sharing it with the world; using his platform to support others and his advocacy work; and so, so much more.
It’s not always an easy listen, as Brock talks about his own struggles with his sexuality – but it’s open, honest, powerful and – at points – you can’t stop listening.
Oh, and if you’re a Drag Race fan, there are some Easter Eggs in here for you as well!
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4/19/2023 • 39 minutes, 40 seconds
The One on the 2023 Union Cup
If it feels like we’ve been here before, it’s because we have... sort of.
It was in 2020 that Alistair Burford and David ‘FiFi’ Cumpston first joined us to talk about the Union Cup in Birmingham – which, at the time, was set for the following year.
But COVID and travelling restrictions meant the tournament – which is Europe’s largest inclusive rugby competition – had to be postponed for two whole years.
It was an agonising wait - but this month, it’s finally here, and Alistair and David are back on the podcast to tell us all about it!
We talk about all sorts of things on this episode – including that decision to postpone; the bidding Process; David and Fifi’s own journey in rugby; how Birmingham has got behind the Cup – and loads, loads more!
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4/12/2023 • 37 minutes, 42 seconds
The One with Jacob Leeks
It’s fair to say that Jacob Leeks has always had a passion for playing sport, and for writing about it as well.
When he’s not running out for Birmingham Blaze, he’s reporting on football and so much more for the Daily Mirror – and at the end of February, his work was recognised as he picked up the Football Media Award at this year’s Football v Homophobia Awards.
So, it’s high-time that we got Jacob on the podcast for a chat about him, his work and his love of all things sport!
We chat about where Jacob’s love of the beautiful game came from (and why it made his dad so happy!); how he got into journalism, along with the highs and lows that come with being in the industry; the journey he went on when it came to dealing with his own sexuality; winning that prestigious FvH Award; telling LGBTQ+ stories and so, so much more.
It’s a cracking chat with a brilliant young journalist, and we think you’ll love hearing it!
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4/5/2023 • 33 minutes, 38 seconds
The One with Josh Cavallo
On October 26th, 2021, only devoted followers of Australian soccer would have known who Josh Cavallo was.
Twenty-four hours later, the Adelaide United footballer was the name on the lips of almost everyone in world football after he became the first top-flight male professional to come out while still playing.
Since then, life has been a bit of a whirlwind for Josh – and we’re delighted we finally have the chance to sit down with him for a cracking episode of the podcast.
We talk about his love of the game and where it came from; deciding to share his story and the support he received from former podcast guest Thomas Beattie; telling his teammates about his sexuality, and then the world; the abuse he still gets and how he deals with it; and the goals for the rest of his career – honestly, this is one you have to hear.
We’re so grateful that Josh took the time to join us for it, and we know you’ll love it as much as we do.
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3/29/2023 • 35 minutes, 56 seconds
The One with Lauren Price and Karriss Artingstall
To have one Olympic medallist on the podcast is a treat.
To have two on at the same time – well, that’s incredibly special, and that’s why we’re so excited to bring you this episode.
Lauren Price and Karriss Artingstall both came away from the Olympics in Tokyo with medals – for Lauren, it was a gold in the middleweight division, and for Karriss, it was featherweight bronze.
Honestly, the couple are absolutely laden with accolades – world and commonwealth and European gold for Lauren, world bronze and European silver for Karriss – and that’s why this is such a cracking episode with two leading lights in British boxing.
We talk about their careers, how they met, their relationship, their goals going forward and so, so much more!
It’s an open, genuine and honest conversation that we absolutely love, and we hope you will as well – and we can’t thank both Lauren and Karriss enough for coming on to chat.
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3/22/2023 • 34 minutes, 37 seconds
The One with Gisele Shaw
Gisele Shaw has her family – and especially her grandmother – to thank for her love of professional wrestling.
Together, they’d watch and talk about the likes of Chyna and Lita in the WWF – but it wasn’t until a chance encounter at a professional wrestling show that Gisele even thought about stepping into the ring herself.
Now, she’s one of the best in the business – part of IMPACT Wrestling’s Knockout division alongside some of the stars she grew up idolising, and a challenger for the promotion’s Knockout World Championship.
Last year at Toronto Pride, Gisele chose to open up about the fact she happens to be trans – which is something she admits she’d never, ever thought about doing for a long time – and today, she joins us as a brilliant guest on the podcast.
You know we love wrestling on this podcast, and Gisele is an amazing guest – and we chat about her career; her idols; her training; being a visible member of the LGBTQ+ community and loads more.
We loved chatting with the self-proclaimed ‘Quintessential Diva’, and we think you’ll love this chat as well.
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3/15/2023 • 34 minutes, 44 seconds
The One with Stargazy FC
In a way, this is a story that was made for us!
Richard Pallot and Rachel Williams are from Cornwall FA, and were thinking of ways to make the game in Cornwall more inclusive.
Little did they know that Jess Sharville was also thinking the same thing – so when their paths crossed on social media, they got talking, and Stargazy FC was born.
The club has its first training session at the end of the month – and all three of them are brilliant and passionate advocates for inclusivity in the game, as we talk about the idea behind the club; doing it in a place like Cornwall; why it’s personal for all of them to get involved with; and why they’ll soon be open for business for other teams that may want to have a match this summer!
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3/8/2023 • 31 minutes, 47 seconds
The One with Keighley Cougars
It’s a common enough story.
A club, on the brink of extinction, saved by people who had a passion for keeping it alive.
But what makes the history of Keighley Cougars a little bit different is that they were rescued by Ryan O’Neill and his husband Kaue Garcia – who became the first out LGBTQ+ owners of a professional sports club outside of the USA, and put LGBTQ+ rights at the heart of what the Cougars are all about.
So, when they dropped us a message about the podcast, we were only too happy to have them on for a chat, and it’s an absolute cracker.
We chat with them both about their journeys in sport – which for Ryan was baked into his DNA, and was completely new for Kaue; buying the club; the challenge that presented; the first Pride game; the reaction to it; the plans for the future and lots, lots more.
It’s a cracking conversation, and we’re really glad that Kaue and Ryan were able to join us for this podcast, and we think you’ll really like it.
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3/1/2023 • 35 minutes, 26 seconds
The One with Campbell Johnstone
It’s been less than a month since Campbell Johnstone made a little bit of history.
The former New Zealand international opened up about his sexuality in an interview with TVNZ, becoming the first All Black to come out as gay.
It was a decision that brought worldwide attention to the ex-Canterbury and Crusaders player – and now, he’s joining us on the podcast to tell us more about that decision, and what life has been like since.
We chat about getting into rugby; applying himself to reach the top-level; getting that All Blacks call-up; understanding his sexuality and trusting people in rugby with his story – and loads, loads more.
It’s a brilliant conversation that we were privileged to have, and we think you’ll love it.
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2/22/2023 • 38 minutes, 34 seconds
The One from Edgbaston
We're changing things up on the podcast today to do something a little bit different.
At the end of January, we got a message from Warwickshire County Cricket Club, asking us if we'd like to head to Edgbaston to be part of a special training session being held at the club's indoor cricket centre.
It'd bring together players and coaches from Warwickshire with members of the Birmingham Unicorns - the LGBTQ+ cricket team that we've featured on the podcast before.
It was an offer we weren't going to turn down, so we took our kit and headed up to Edgbaston - and this is what happened!
It features some familiar voices, along with some new names on the podcast - and is a fantastic celebration of inclusivity, allyship and, more than anything, the joy that cricket can bring you.
We can't thank the folks at Warwickshire and Unicorns enough for having us along - and hopefully, you enjoy hearing this one as much as we loved making it!
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2/15/2023 • 27 minutes, 36 seconds
The One with Ryan Atkin
It’s LGBT+ History Month, so it’s only appropriate that we speak to another history maker on the podcast – and that’s exactly what Ryan Atkin is.
He became the first out gay referee working in the men’s game in the UK when he came out in 2017.
And since then, Ryan has used his experiences and platform to help others in the beautiful game, with many crediting him for inspiring their own decision to come out.
Ryan’s popped up on the podcast from time to time, but has never had a full episode dedicated to himself - so today, we’re putting that right!
We chat about all sorts of things – getting into refereeing; some of his most memorable games as he worked his way up the pyramid; taking the decision to share his story; supporting others in the game; and life for him since.
Plus we try and settle a very important question that has been dogging people from Cornwall and Devon for generations!
It’s a cracker of a conversation that we think you’re going to love, and we’re really grateful to Ryan for joining us for it.
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2/8/2023 • 37 minutes, 54 seconds
The Second One with James Child
It’s been two years since James Child made a little bit of history, as the Super League referee opened up for the first time on this podcast about the fact he happened to be gay.
A lot has changed since then – as he took charge of the Challenge Cup Final at the Tottenham Hotspur Stadium, officiated at a home World Cup, appeared on Question of Sport, became a dad for the first time, and announced his retirement.
So, it was high time to get him back onto the podcast to talk about everything that has been happening in his life over the past couple of years – and it really doesn’t disappoint.
We talk about life as a new dad; the reaction to him sharing his story; supporting others who reached out to him; that Challenge Cup Final; moving away from refereeing and so much more!
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2/1/2023 • 30 minutes, 15 seconds
The One with Luke Fisher
When Luke Fisher was a kid, he used to set the video tape running to make sure he was able to record ice-hockey games from the NHL overnight to watch in the morning.
Times have moved on since then, but Luke’s love of the game hasn’t changed – and now, it’s not just his sporting love but his work as well, with both the Elite League in the UK and handling social media for the NHL as well.
Luke dropped us a message about what he’s doing in the sport – and with the Elite League’s Pride Week almost upon us, it was the perfect time to get him on for a chat.
And this one is an absolute cracker – we talk about ice-hockey, obviously; but also about making social media work; about inclusivity being driven from the ground upwards; making this year bigger and better; and also about Luke’s other love of Eurovision!
Honestly, it’s a belting chat – and we think you’ll love it!
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1/18/2023 • 34 minutes, 42 seconds
The Second One with Michael Gunning
It’s been more than three years since Michael Gunning made his first appearance on the podcast – and a lot has changed since then.
The international swimmer popped back up last year to talk briefly about the formation of the Commonwealth Pride Network, but we haven’t had the chance to properly speak to him since then.
So today, he’s having a return visit and a whole episode to himself, as we look at what the past few years have been like for him.
And in short, there’s been a lot going on – he retired from swimming, filmed a documentary with Tom Daley, worked with Pride House at the Commonwealth Games in Birmingham and so much more besides.
We always say that Michael is one of the nicest people we get to have on the podcast, and it really is true – so we think you’ll enjoy this one as much as we did.
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1/11/2023 • 28 minutes, 55 seconds
The One with Zack Leader
We’re kicking off 2023 on the podcast with a trip back to the grassroots, and a cracking conversation with someone doing their bit to try and make the beautiful game open for everyone.
Zack Leader is Lincolnshire FA’s new LGBTQ+ ambassador – and a man who lives and breathes the beautiful game.
He’s also someone who knows a fair bit about adrenaline rushes, having previously been a British gravity bike champion – and as a Spurs fan, we were always going to like him.
We talk about the role football played for him growing up; getting back into playing after a long time away; his most memorable moments; his experiences as an LGBTQ+ person in sport, including some of the homophobia he’s encountered; his new role with the Lincolnshire FA and lots, lots more.
It’s a great way to kick start our fifth year of the podcast, and we think you’ll love it.
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1/4/2023 • 32 minutes, 27 seconds
The One with the 2022 Best Bits (Part 2)
So another year comes to an end.
And even by our standards on this podcast, it's been a massively busy one - so we wanted to wrap things up with the second part of our 'Best Bits' special with some of the most memorable moments from July-December.
So in this episode, we'll remind ourselves of our chats with:
- Stephen Fry
- Georgia Elwiss, Hen Cowen and Gordon Hollins from our Big Cricket Roundtable in Taunton
- Laurie Williams, Hannah Davis, Dan Jervis and Lloyd Wilson from our big Manchester Pride Roundtable in Salford
- Zander Murray
- Peter Caruth
- Aubrey Edwards
Honestly, there have been so many amazing guests in 2022 - more than we could ever fit in! - and we've got more of the same lined up for what's promising to be an amazing 2023!
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12/28/2022 • 31 minutes, 48 seconds
The One with Adam Bolt
He’s one of the rising stars of the British wrestling scene.
Along with partner Jack Tayson, Adam Bolt has performed for promotions across the country.
And in 2021, he spoke for the first time publicly about the fact he was bisexual – and was sharing his story to help other LGBTQ+ people in the industry.
We love doing professional wrestling on the podcast, and Adam is someone we’ve wanted to have on the show for ages – so it was cracking to get this one done.
We talk about what got Adam into wrestling; his favourite wrestlers; his favourite matches; his coming out journey and why he’s been a better wrestler as a result; performing at WAW’s Pride Show – yeah, this one really is a cracker.
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12/21/2022 • 35 minutes, 46 seconds
The One with the 2022 Best Bits (Part 1)
Snow is falling, the night's have drawn in - and there are only a few days left in 2022.
So it seemed like the perfect time to take a look back at the past year on the podcast, and remind ourselves of some of the amazing guests who joined us for a chat over the last twelve months.
This episode takes us back through January to June - where we'll remind ourselves of our conversations with:
- Scottish badminton star Kirstie Gilmour
- Ex-footballer Thomas Beattie
- Former NFL star Ryan Russell
- Newcastle Thunder's Jordan Robinson
- Welsh hammer-thrower Osian Jones
- England cricket star Katherine Brunt
- Ice-dancer Lewis Gibson
- Curling star Bruce Mouat
So, all those amazing conversations, just from the first part of 2022 alone - and in an upcoming episode, we'll take remind ourselves of some of the great guests who joined us in the later part of the year!
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12/14/2022 • 29 minutes, 31 seconds
The One with Abbie Eaton
There’s no other way to put it – Abbie Eaton is a very cool person.
The British racing driver has travelled around the world, competing in races across the globe – and pitted her driving wits against Jeremy Clarkson, Richard Hammond and James May on The Grand Tour.
After some time out of racing due to an injury we talk about in this episode, she’s now back behind the wheel – and is continuing to make change in the sport as an ambassador for Racing Pride.
So, we’re absolutely delighted to have Abbie onto the podcast to talk about her journey, both on and off the track.
We talk about how motor-racing was always her passion; about breaking in and some of the financial hardships that people don’t talk about; her most memorable drives; those Grand Tour memories; being a role-model for other LGBTQ+ people in motorsports and so much more besides!
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12/7/2022 • 30 minutes, 54 seconds
The One with Josh Jones
Josh Jones has been cycling for the better part of a decade.
Road-racing, cycle-cross, a bit of mountain-biking as well – he’s done it all!
But it didn’t always feel like the culture in cycling was particularly welcoming to LGBTQ+ racers like Josh, which is why he started ALL IN Racing.
The not-for-profit initiative is working to make the sport inclusive of LGBTQ+ folk at all levels of cycling – and this winter, it funded its first-ever race using proceeds from the sale of its Rainbow Socks.
So, we couldn’t wait to get Josh onto the podcast to talk all about it – from starting ALL IN to his own experiences in cycling to the success they had in Andover in November with supporting the Supercross UCI event.
Whether you're an elite-level cyclist or a fair-weather rider, this is a conversation we think you'll love!
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12/3/2022 • 29 minutes, 17 seconds
The One with Stacey Francis-Bayman
A lot of words were bandied around when England netball star Stacey Francis-Bayman announced her retirement this summer – and one you heard a lot was ‘legend’.
After all, the Team Bath star was part of the club’s first-ever Superleague squad, and was part of all five of their Superleague-winning campaigns.
She played for England at three Commonwealth Games – including taking bronze in Delhi in 2010 – and has two World Cup bronze medals to her name as well.
She was also an ambassador for Pride House in Birmingham at her home Commonwealth Games, which was when we spoke to her last – but we really wanted to dedicate a whole episode to Stacey in her own right.
And really, this is an extraordinary conversation – about life in retirement; about your values as a person and an athlete; about her development as a person and moving into a space where she’s more comfortable as an advocate; and so, so much more besides.
It’s emotional at points, and never anything less than honest – and it’s one you really need to hear.
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11/30/2022 • 31 minutes, 4 seconds
The One with Heath Thorpe
Gymnastics has been in the blood for Heath Thorpe for - well, seemingly forever!
The Australian has accumulated multiple titles and international medals, and made his first World Championship earlier this year in Liverpool.
Now he’s using his platform to try and make sport a place where everyone belongs – and to do that, he’s bringing his own experiences of discrimination in sport and in life to the table as an advocate for the LGBTQ+ community.
As one of the few out gay gymnasts competing at the international level, we’ve been keen to have him on the podcast for a long time – and this episode is everything you’d hope it would be and more.
We talk about Heath’s childhood, representing Australia for the first time, coming to terms with his sexuality, using his experiences to help others, life during COVID – and lots, lots more.
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11/27/2022 • 30 minutes, 43 seconds
The One with Liam Braisdell
When Liam Braisdell was young, he had a bedroom decorated top-to-bottom in Arsenal colours, so it’s no surprise that he found a way into football.
Only in his mid-20s, he’s currently the manager of St Martin’s FC – so when he dropped us a message, saying he wanted to share his story as a gay man in football, we were only too happy to have him on.
And honestly, this episode is an absolute joy – the sort of surprise you get when someone you don’t know gets in touch, offers to share their experiences, and is completely brilliant from the moment they come on.
We talk to Liam about battling against adversity as a manager; how Football Manager got him into coaching in the first place; being inspired by Jake Daniels and others; life as a Wrexham fan; and so much more besides.
Liam isn’t the biggest name we’ve had on the podcast by a long stretch – but honestly, we loved this one as much as any we've ever done.
And if you want absolute honesty, some hilarious coming out stories, and a celebration of grassroots football in the UK, you're going to love it as well.
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11/23/2022 • 36 minutes, 33 seconds
The One with Nicholas Daines
There’s no other way to say it.
Nicholas Daines is a very cool guy – and if you don’t believe me, take a listen to this resume.
As a gymnast, he represented Britain on the international stage – and he’s also a medallist as a diver on the masters level as a diver.
Alongside that, Nicholas is a world-renowned, award-winning stuntman and stunt co-ordinator who has worked on some of the biggest movies in the world – from Mission Impossible to Batman to the latest Harry Styles film, and a whole bucketload of brilliant productions alongside that.
In fact, you’re bound to have seen his work, even if you didn’t know it at the time.
So, when Nicholas dropped us a message saying that he’d love to come onto the podcast, we were always going to have him – and this episode is a cracker.
We talk about the pivotal role that Nicholas’ sister played in getting him into gymnastics; how it felt to pull on that British tracksuit at a world championships; how diving came into his life; his work in stunts, and as a gay man in that industry; why he’s passionate about biodiversity and the world around us… honestly, the list goes on and on.
It’s a brilliant conversation with an awesome guest – and we think you’re going to love Nicholas and his story as much as we did.
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11/16/2022 • 42 minutes, 16 seconds
The One with Brandon Gregory
Born into a sporty family, Brandon Gregory was always into football – in fact, it was the ‘Invincibles’ of Arsenal that got him into it.
But when he decided to share the fact he’s gay with his local team as a teenager, it felt like the beautiful game no longer had a place for him.
Despite that, he found a way back thanks to the Cardiff Dragons - where he now plays, manages and helps others to get into the game as well.
So when he dropped us a message saying that he’d love to come onto the podcast to share his story, we were always going to have him on for what’s a cracking conversation.
It’s powerful, it’s personal, and it really gets across why making football a place where everyone belongs is such an important thing.
For Brandon, it’s literally been life-changing – and when you hear that conversation, you’ll understand why!
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11/9/2022 • 33 minutes
The One with Anton Hysén
It’s been more than a decade since Swedish footballer Anton Hysén came out.
At the time, he was one of the only men in the world of football to be open about his sexuality – and while he was always pretty chilled about the whole thing, he admits that the attention got close to overwhelming at times.
More than ten years on from sharing his story, Anton is still an inspiration to so many gay and bisexual men in the beautiful game, so it was high time that we got him onto the show to talk about his journey.
It’s all here – from growing up as the son of former Swedish international Glenn Hysén, playing the beautiful game in the USA and Sweden, deciding to share his story… oh, and how it felt to triumph on the Swedish version of Strictly Come Dancing.
Honestly, Anton might be one of the most chilled, relaxed that we’ve ever had on the podcast – and this was an absolute treat.
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11/2/2022 • 29 minutes, 32 seconds
The One with Aubrey Edwards
Aubrey Edwards is one of the most recognisable figures in All Elite Wrestling.
From grudge matches to world title contests, the referee has taken charge of some of the biggest bouts in the promotion’s three-year history.
And as if that wasn’t enough, she also co-host’s the company’s podcast and has played a key in developing AEW’s soon-to-be-released video game.
So, busy is one way to describe Aubrey’s schedule – but that hasn’t stopped her from taking time out of her day to join us for a cracking episode of the podcast that wrestling fans are going to love!
From how she got interested in wrestling to being in the ring with some of the biggest names in the business, it’s a corker of a conversation that touches on everything from bisexuality to helping to build a brand!
We loved doing this one, and we hope you enjoy listening to it as much as we enjoyed chatting with Aubrey.
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10/26/2022 • 34 minutes, 22 seconds
The One with Cristian Colás
It’s fair to say that Cristian Colás knows a lot about what it takes to make a football team tick.
He’s coached in Helsinki, as well as in his home country of Spain – and is currently in his second spell in charge of Biggleswade United.
Cristian also happens to be gay – and while his sexuality is far from a secret, this is the first time he’s ever sat down with a podcast like ours to talk about what it’s like to be an out manager working in the men’s game.
As always, there’s loads to talk about with a guest like Cristian, from his journey in football to his experiences away from the pitch – plus his thoughts on the Qatar World Cup and lots, lots more.
We’re really grateful to Cristian for taking the time to join us on the podcast, and we hope you enjoy giving this one a listen.
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10/20/2022 • 36 minutes, 15 seconds
The Second One with Robyn Love and Laurie Williams
The last time that Robyn Love and Laurie Williams were on the podcast together, it was literally days after they got engaged.
And now, the British wheelchair basketball stars are back on the show again to talk about the exciting news that the pair of them are expecting their first child in April!
When they dropped us a message to say they’d love to come on and say more, we were delighted to say ‘yes’ – and this is just a really lovely conversation with two terrific people, about to embark on the next stage of their journey together.
We talk about their decision to start a family, the journey they’ve been on, the less-than-glamorous place they found out that Laurie was pregnant, inspiring others – honestly, this is just a cracking chat with two brilliant people who are clearly just chuffed to bits about being mums-to-be.
We loved doing it, and we know you’ll love it as well.
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10/19/2022 • 31 minutes, 20 seconds
The One with Matt Morton
He’s the player-manager of Thetford Town Football Club – and in many ways, Matt Morton’s influence in football extends beyond what he's managed to achieve on the pitch to the role-model he's become off it.
Because when Jake Daniels was considering coming out publicly, it was Matt that the Blackpool player turned to – and Jake wasn’t alone in that.
It’s because Matt was, for a number of years, one of the only out gay men in football who was willing to share his story – and it’s a pleasure to finally get Matt onto the show to talk about his journey and so much more besides.
We discuss his journey in football, his time as a player and as a manager, his personal journey away from the pitch, being visible and lots, lots more.
We think you’ll love this chat with Matt, and we’re really grateful to him for making the time to come on.
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10/12/2022 • 43 minutes, 54 seconds
The One with Zander Murray
It’s fair to say the last couple of weeks have been a whirlwind for Zander Murray.
Less than a fortnight ago, the Scottish striker came out as gay – and since then, he’s been pretty much everywhere, talking about his journey.
The Gala Fairydean Rovers player says he’s sharing his story because he wants to help others who may be struggling – and we’re delighted to have him with us today, in his first podcast ever, to talk about his journey.
From why he’s decided to inspire others with his story to the process he’s been through, it’s an amazing listen with a great guy that touches on all sorts of things in a really honest, open and genuine way.
We know this is one you’ve wanted to hear, and that we’ve wanted to bring you – so we really hope you enjoy it.
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10/5/2022 • 33 minutes, 24 seconds
The One with Natalie Powell
She’s a double Olympian; a former Commonwealth gold medallist; and one of British judo’s most-established stars, with more medals than you can shake a stick at.
But while Natalie Powell was smashing it in her sporting life, it took a long time for the Welsh judoka to feel the same way when it came to her sexuality.
For years, she felt uncomfortable with who she was – and called the period where she wasn’t out ‘the hardest thing in her life’. But now, she’s happy and content with who she is, and that is why she’s chosen to be with us on the show today.
We’re thrilled to have Natalie on, talking about her career and the journey she’s been on, in sport and in life – plus training, cake, and so much more.
It’s a cracking conversation with a bit of a Welsh sporting legend, and we’re delighted that Natalie is on the show with us.
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9/28/2022 • 30 minutes, 2 seconds
The One on Mab Hudel
If you live in Cornwall, you will know who Edward Rowe is.
And if you don’t, prepare to be introduced to an absolute gem!
The Cornish actor and comedian is a legend in the county – and he's just written, filmed and directed his first-ever short film, all in the Cornish language, looking at a coming out story at a Cornish rugby club.
It’s called ‘Mab Hudel’ – and tells the story of a player called Enys Penrose who captains his team to a cup final, while simultaneously struggling with his own sexuality.
It’s something that’s right up our street, which is why we had Ed in to chat on our BBC Radio Cornwall show.
And we thought you might like to hear it on our podcast as well, which is why we’re bringing it to you here.
Ed is a great talker – a really engaging, entertaining guy who we love and think you’ll love as well – and that the film will be right up your street as well.
So, enjoy this special bonus episode with Ed, and make sure you try and check out the film as well.
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9/21/2022 • 24 minutes, 10 seconds
The One with Hayley Ladd
For Hayley Ladd, playing football wasn’t a choice. It was just a given from the off.
As soon as she was old enough, she was kicking a ball around with local lads on the cul-de-sac that her family lived on – and when she was nine, she was in Arsenal’s Centre of Excellence.
Stints at Coventry City, Bristol Academy and Birmingham City followed – alongside a time playing in Finland! – before Hayley ended up at Manchester United.
And alongside that was Hayley’s international career, began when she was just sixteen years old, and still going strong to this day for Wales.
It was being part of that Welsh team at such a young age that helped Ladd find the confidence she needed to be her authentic self – and now, she’s looking to help others do the same.
This is a cracking conversation about all of that and so much more – from Wales’ recent World Cup match with Slovenia played in front of an electric crowd in Cardiff to Hayley’s footballing journey, plus training in the pandemic, finding time to relax and the pressures that younger players may face now that Hayley didn’t have to deal with as she was breaking into the game.
It’s a brilliant chat with a fantastic guest, and we think you’re going to love it!
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9/21/2022 • 33 minutes, 13 seconds
The One with Paul Greetham
Paul Greetham has always loved cricket.
He grew up playing it at an age-group level for Warwickshire and, for the past eight years, has been helping to bring the best out of the players coming through the ranks at Edgbaston as the High Performance Manager at Warwickshire County Cricket Club.
He’s someone who knows everything there is to know about coaching, having done it since he was a teenager – and he’s a terrific person to have on the podcast this week.
We talk about all sorts of things, from where his love of the game came from to coming out as gay in the sport – to why he would like more men to feel like they can do the same.
Plus marathon running, the joy of coaching – and why he for one will be looking forward to the new series of Bake Off!
It’s a cracking chat with Paul, who is speaking openly about his story for the first time – and we’re delighted to have him on the show.
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9/7/2022 • 37 minutes, 28 seconds
The One with the Best Bits of 2022 So Far
Sometimes, it’s good to take a moment to stop and reflect on things.
And as the summer begins to draw to a close, we thought it was worth pausing to remind ourselves of some of the amazing guests who have joined us on the podcast so far in 2022.
So, we’re taking a trip into the archive to remember conversations with the Olympians, World Cup winners and history-makers who have been on the show since January this year.
From reaction to Jake Daniels' coming out story to athletes who shared their journey with us for the first time, this is like a buffet of podcast goodness from 2022 – and we think you’ll love it.
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8/31/2022 • 33 minutes, 41 seconds
The One for Manchester Pride
More than 150 thousand people are expected in Manchester today for the city’s Pride parade - and obviously, we wanted to be part of it!
So we decided to take the show to the heart of the city to record a special episode with four brilliant guests who happened to be in Manchester ahead of today’s march.
Olympic swimmer Dan Jervis, British wheelchair basketball star Laurie Williams, Scottish football referee Lloyd Wilson and rugby player Hannah Davis all join us for a cracking conversation about Pride, visibility, and being their authentic selves. It's honest and open and funny - and touches on everything from wedding planning to coming out to a first trip to Canal Street!
It was brilliant to get so many folks around the table for a chat on such a special weekend, and we hope you love hearing this one.
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8/27/2022 • 55 minutes, 18 seconds
The One with Peter Caruth
There is so much we could tell you about Peter Caruth - who has justifiably earned his reputation as a bit of a legend in the world of Irish hockey.
There’s the silverware he’s won at club level, as well as the bronze he took with the Irish national side at the 2015 Eurohockey Nations Championship – plus the small matter of the Rio Olympics in 2016, and the fact he’s amassed more than 140 caps for Ireland.
Or we could tell you about that moment, exactly two months ago in June, where he told the world about the fact he’s gay – and became the first Ireland men’s hockey international to ever come out.
But honestly, we’d rather you just listened to this episode, which might be one of the best we’ve ever done.
Because if this podcast is just meant to be a chat, then that’s exactly what this one with Peter is – a wide-ranging conversation that will make you laugh, make you cry, and make you literally hold your breath.
It’s something that weaves between the sporting and the deeply, deeply personal – and we think you should just make some time in your day to listen to it in full, because you won’t regret it.
From concocting a scheme to nab Usain Bolt’s autograph to the pain he felt inside while concealing his sexuality, Peter is honest about it all to the absolute core – and we can’t thank him enough for this gift of a conversation.
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8/24/2022 • 41 minutes, 17 seconds
The One with Alex Blackwell
In a career that spanned the best part of two decades, there was very little that Alex Blackwell didn't manage to accomplish.
The former Australia captain led her side to World Cup and Ashes victories on her way to becoming, at one point, Australia’s most capped female cricketer ever - and now she writes about and commentates on the game that she still loves so much.
Alex also made history as the first female international cricketer to come out as gay, and uses her platform as a patron for Pride in Sport in Australia, with whom she works to make sport a place where everyone feels welcome.
So we were absolutely delighted to have Alex join us for a cracking episode of the podcast, where we talk about her amazing career and so much more besides.
From the influence her family had in making her feel like she could do anything she wanted to some of the discrimination she experienced in cricket, as well as those top sporting memories that still haven’t faded – it’s all in this conversation, and in her book ‘Fair Game’, which is absolutely worth a read as well.
We’re really grateful Alex joined us for this chat, and we think you’ll love hearing it as much as we loved doing it.
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8/17/2022 • 37 minutes, 52 seconds
The One on Pride House Birmingham
If you're anything like me, you probably loved watching the Commonwealth Games over the past couple of weeks.
And if you were lucky enough to be in Birmingham for the event, you may well have paid a visit to Pride House Birmingham - which has been putting on events, talks and seminars throughout the entirety of the Games.
We wanted to reflect on what the space meant to the people behind it, as well as to those who visited – and we’ve found two terrific guests to have a conversation about that and so much more.
Neil Basterfield is the co-founder of Pride House Birmingham, and England netball legend Stacey Francis-Bayman was a Pride House Ambassador for the Games – and this conversation brings them both together to talk visibility, the importance of LGBTQ+ venues at sporting events, allyship and so much more.
It’s a fitting tribute to the work done by everyone who made Pride House a success, and we’re massively grateful to Neil and Stacey for making the time to join us for it.
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8/12/2022 • 32 minutes, 29 seconds
The One with Pharrell Shaymar
If you take a look at Pharrell Shaymar’s social media feeds, you’ll see that combat sports are a huge part of his life.
As a professional boxing and kickboxing coach, you’ll get tutorials on everything from throwing the perfect left hook to the importance of counter-punching.
But what makes Pharrell’s story all the more remarkable is that he only really started practicing combat sports as a way to deal with the depression he was experiencing during his transition – and now, as ‘The Trans Technician’, he’s opening about his journey in the hope it’ll inspire other LGBTQ+ people to get into combat sports, and be their authentic selves.
So, this is a cracking conversation with someone who has a unique story to tell – and that’s why we’re delighted to have Pharrell on the podcast.
We talk about his journey when it comes to sport, his gender identity, opening up about his story, what combat sports brings to him, and so much more.
It’s all part of this conversation, and we’re really grateful Pharrell took the time to join us for it.
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8/10/2022 • 32 minutes, 59 seconds
The One with David Mooney
It’s hard to find anyone more knowledgeable – or passionate – about the ins and outs of life at the Etihad than David Mooney.
The broadcaster’s Blue Moon Podcast has been running since 2009, and is one of the most definitive voices on all things Manchester City - and it’s fair to say he’s had plenty to talk about over the time he’s been doing those shows!
So, it was high time to get him onto our podcast to talk about his story as a broadcaster, and get some top tales from away from the mic as well.
Honestly, it’s hard to know how to sum this one up – part nostalgia-fest, part podcast-geekdom, and partly an authentic and honest look at coming out – other than to say it's just a treat to listen to.
Even if you don’t follow City, you will love this conversation – and we’re so grateful David took the time to join us for this.
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8/3/2022 • 49 minutes, 41 seconds
The One with Lloyd Wilson
It’s been a few weeks since Lloyd Wilson decided to share his story with the world.
Alongside colleague Craig Napier, Lloyd came out as gay – and it’s fair to say life has been a bit of a whirlwind for the Scottish referee since then.
Lloyd has already reffed his first few games back since sharing his story - so it really was the perfect time to get him onto the podcast to have a bit of a chat.
And honestly, this is a really special episode that touches on so much.
We discuss how Lloyd became comfortable with who he was, and the role his other half played in that; why football was the place he felt most comfortable being his authentic self; how he actually shared his story with the world – yeah, this one is special.
Plus we talk about the pressure of refereeing, why he does it – plus a little bit of motocross and dog chat thrown in for good measure as well!
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7/27/2022 • 38 minutes, 41 seconds
The One with Georgia Elwiss
It’s shaping up to be a busy sporting summer for any number of reasons, including the second year of The Hundred competition.
One of the players who’ll be hoping to take centre-stage in that is England’s Georgia Elwiss, who is representing Birmingham Phoenix in the tournament.
From winning the World Cup with England in 2017 to lifting the Rachel Heyhoe-Flint Trophy with Southern Vipers, Georgia is someone who has done it all in the sport - and someone we’ve wanted to have on the podcast for a long time.
So when we managed to book in this conversation, we knew it was going to be a cracker – and it doesn’t disappoint!
We talk about how last year’s Hundred panned out; her love of cricket and where it came from; playing for England; why she’s willing to talk more about her sexuality now; her most memorable moments in the game – and so, so much more besides.
We know you’ll love this conversation – and we’re massively grateful to Georgia for making the time to chat with us for a cracking episode of the pod.
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7/20/2022 • 31 minutes, 16 seconds
The Second One with Brad Slayer
Imagine if your job involves performing in front of a crowd of thousands, eliciting boos and cheers based on your athleticism inside a ring?
And then imagine that you weren’t able to do any of that because of the pandemic.
That’s exactly what British wrestler Brad Slayer – and dozens of others of UK stars – found themselves facing, so you can understand why they’re so delighted to be stepping back into the ring, in front of an audience, for a very special Pride show.
It’s happening in Norwich in just a couple of weeks – and because we love wrestling on this show, we were obviously more than happy to get him onto the podcast for his second appearance on the show to tell us all about it.
We talk about that pandemic era of wrestling, LGBTQ+ representation in the industry, Brad’s own journey, putting together a Pride card and so much more – and if you love wrestling, this one is a cracking chat.
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7/13/2022 • 29 minutes, 24 seconds
The One with Stephen Fry
He’s a comedian, actor, writer and presenter – and at the start of May, Stephen Fry added another accolade to his CV when he was named as the next President of Marylebone Cricket Club.
He described himself as ‘humbled’ and ‘honoured’ by the appointment – and to be honest, we're feeling the same emotions about having Stephen on the podcast today!
But as you'd suspect, this episode doesn't disappoint.
We chat about where his love of cricket came from; his most memorable moments as a fan; the honour of being named MCC president and his goals for his tenure in the post; being a gay man in cricket; opening the game up to everyone; and so, so much more.
It’s a cracking conversation that we think you’ll love - because honestly, how could it be anything else?! - and we’re massively grateful to Stephen for making the time to join us for it.
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7/6/2022 • 30 minutes, 1 second
The Big Cricket Roundtable One
It’s a big day for the world of cricket – and one that requires a special podcast to go with it.
Later tonight, Surrey take on Kent at The Oval in a T20 Blast match that’s been specifically designated as a game in support of the club’s official LGBTQ+ supporters group Proud Surrey.
And over at Lords, Middlesex face Somerset in their T20 game, where LGBTQ+ team Graces will be applauding the teams out in a guard of honour, with Pride and inclusivity messaging on screens around the ground as well.
And really, that was all the excuse we needed to put together a special podcast, all about being LGBTQ+ in cricket and the significance of inclusion in the sport.
So, up first, we’re taking you on a trip to Taunton – where I went earlier this week during England’s Test Match with South Africa to speak with World Cup winner and England international Georgia Elwiss, Hen Cowen from the ECB, and Somerset CEO Gordon Hollins from Somerset County Cricket Club about the importance of inclusivity in the game.
And then, we’re catching up on Zoom with Sam Schofield from Proud Surrey to talk about the significance of their game with Kent.
So, a whopper of an episode with a whole load of great guests – talking all about cricket!
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7/1/2022 • 38 minutes, 3 seconds
The One with Dan Jervis
In the small Welsh village of Resolven where Dan Jervis grew up, it was rugby that ruled the roost.
But from the moment that Dan’s grandparents took him to the local pool, it was clear that swimming was the sport for him.
Dan dreamed of being an Olympian – and last year, he made that happen at the Games in Tokyo, when he finished 5th in the 1500 metres freestyle final in his debut Olympics.
Throw in a pair of Commonwealth medals in Glasgow and the Gold Coast respectively, and you can see why Dan is feeling so upbeat heading into next month’s Commonwealth Games in Birmingham.
But before then, Dan wanted to open up publicly for the first time about the fact he’s gay – so when he dropped us a message, asking to come on the pod for a chat, we were delighted to have him on.
As always, this isn’t Dan’s ‘coming out’ story – as his friends and his family have known for a little while now.
But it is the first time Dan has shared his story with the wider world – and in doing so, he hopes to be the role-model that he perhaps didn’t see growing up.
And so, that’s what this conversation is all about – Dan’s journey in the pool, training in a pandemic, that first Olympics experience, understanding his own sexuality, his faith, and why now is the right time to share his story.
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6/29/2022 • 43 minutes, 29 seconds
The One with Ali Donnelly
If you know anything about women’s rugby, you’ll know who Ali Donnelly is.
A player, a coach, a journalist, a campaigner and the founder of the legendary Scrum Queens website, she’s dedicated more hours than most of us have in the day to promoting the women’s game.
And with a book coming out shortly, now was the perfect time to get Ali onto the podcast to talk about her remarkable sporting story.
We talk about everything, from how she got into the game to the efforts she’s gone to in order to get the sport the platform it deserves – as well as the process of writing a book, finding her wife through the game, and screaming herself hoarse at the Premiership Final.
It’s a cracking chat with a great guest, and we think you’ll really like it.
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6/22/2022 • 39 minutes, 8 seconds
The Second One with Anthony Bowens
It’s been more than three years since we last had Anthony Bowens on the podcast.
And it’s fair to say that a lot has changed in the time since then.
The professional wrestler signed with All Elite Wrestling, where he’s been competing against some of his idols on national television and, alongside partner Max Caster, has become part of one of the most popular tag-teams in the company as one half of The Acclaimed.
So, it was high time to get Anthony back onto the show for a chat about the whirlwind that his life has been in the time since we last sat down together.
We talk performing in a pandemic to no crowds, finding a dynamic that works as a tag-team, stepping into the ring with the person who inspired Anthony to get into wrestling, his prominence as an LGBTQ+ performer in wrestling, his goals when he returns from injury and lots, lots more.
If you love wrestling, it’s a cracking episode that we think you’ll love – and we’re massively grateful for Anthony making the time.
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6/15/2022 • 34 minutes, 12 seconds
The One with the Best of the American Guests
We’re taking a stroll down memory lane on the podcast today – and, more specifically, a trip across the pond to remind ourselves of some of the brilliant American guests who have joined us on the pod since 2018.
It’s a celebration of sporting talent from sea to shining sea, as we go from state to state and coast to coast to revisit some brilliant conversations with some amazing sportspeople from the USA.
Everything from golf to athletics to collegiate wrestling is on the table, as we take you back to conversations that we’ve had with everyone from Olympians to allies.
It’s a special celebration of our American guests from the archives, and we hope you like it.
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6/8/2022 • 27 minutes, 42 seconds
The One with Priscilla, Queen of the Ring
Ollie Burness always dreamed of making it as a professional wrestler, but probably never imagined that he’d do it as a spandex-wearing, lip-syncing, butt-kicking drag queen.
But after getting frustrated with traditional definitions of masculinity and sexuality in the industry, he came up with Priscilla – a self-proclaimed Queen of the Ring and exotic diva.
And now, Priscilla is one of the driving forces behind PCW’s Pride of the Ring event in Blackpool this month, which’ll bring together a whole load of LGBTQ+ talent from the British wrestling scene for what is a UK first.
So, it seemed the perfect time to get Ollie aka Priscilla onto the show to talk about his journey, inside and outside the ring.
From breaking into the business to the changing portrayal of the LGBTQ+ community in the industry to this landmark event, it’s a cracking episode that we think you’ll really enjoy, even if you’re not a wrestling fan!
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6/1/2022 • 33 minutes, 54 seconds
The One with Lewis Gibson
Lewis Gibson grew up in a sporty family, but it wasn’t long before he realised that football wasn’t for him.
In fact, a chance viewing of ‘Dancing on Ice’ on ITV opened up his eyes to a whole world that he hadn’t seen before, and set him off on a journey that led all the way to this year’s Winter Olympics in China.
We’ve wanted to have Lewis on the podcast for a while – and we have to tell you, this episode doesn’t disappoint at all. In fact, it’s an absolute cracker!
We talk about his journey in sport; his transition into ice dance; the music and routines; his partnership with Lilah Fear; his personal journey; what he nicked from the Olympic village – and so, so much more.
Honestly, this episode was an absolute joy – and we really hope you enjoy it!
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5/25/2022 • 36 minutes, 36 seconds
The One about Jake Daniels
It’s been a twenty-four hour period that none of us will ever forget.
After Jake Daniels’ history-making announcement on Monday, we’ve put together a special episode looking at the significance of the Blackpool striker’s decision to open up about his sexuality.
We bring you the powerful reaction of LGBTQ+ fans, and take you behind-the-scenes to show how the story has played out over the past twenty-four hours - and how we've tried to cover it.
It’s an open, honest and emotional episode, unlike any we’ve done over our four-year existence. We really hope you enjoy it.
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5/17/2022 • 36 minutes, 29 seconds
The One with Jordan Robinson
Jordan Robinson has always had sport in his life.
Whether it’s following Newcastle United as a season ticket holder, playing and coaching rugby or, in his current role, as the general manager of Newcastle Thunder, it’s been an ever-present.
Jordan has also known he was gay for a long time – but it was only in lockdown that he decided that he was ready to start the process of opening up to his family and close friends about his story.
And after hearing people like Super League referee James Child share their story on this podcast, he decided to get in touch to ask if he could talk about his own journey as well, in the hope it would help other people.
So that’s what this episode is all about – Jordan’s love of sport, the ups-and-downs of life as a Newcastle United fan, what an average day (if there is such a thing) in the life of a general manager is like, the impact of the pandemic, his own sexuality, speaking out and being visible, and so much more besides.
It’s a cracking episode, and we – as always – are massively grateful that Jordan has trusted us to tell his story for the first time.
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5/11/2022 • 34 minutes, 7 seconds
The One with Chris Kinney
When Chris Kinney represented Team USA in the bobsled at the 2018 Winter Olympics, it was the culmination of years and years of hard work and dedication.
But it also represented a turning point in his own life, where he finally felt able to publicly embrace the whole person that he was.
Up until that point, he had been on a journey - not just with his sexuality, but with his wider identity and where he belonged in the world.
And, as you’ll hear in this fascinating conversation, it wasn’t always an easy journey – but one that, ultimately, had the happiest of endings.
We talk about all of that and more in this cracking episode – where Chris got his love of sport; making the transition from track to the bobsled; becoming an Olympian; his own journey with his sexuality; coming out; fitting in; and why he’s one of the biggest Friends fans going today!
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5/4/2022 • 34 minutes, 17 seconds
The One with Nancy Frostick
If you love football in the UK, you’ve probably read one of Nancy Frostick’s pieces.
The Athletic writer has her finger on the pulse of everything happening in the EFL, covering ownership battles in the boardroom, inspiring stories on the pitch – and pretty much everything else in between.
She’s also a brilliant guest who we’ve wanted to have on the podcast for a long time, and this is just a lovely episode with a top journalist where we get into all sorts of different things.
From where Nancy’s love of football came from to getting her break in journalism; how it feels to nail a scoop to writing about what interests her; her own journey and the importance of representation in sport; plus Taylor Swift, cats and a load more.
This is a lovely episode that we think you’re going to really like, and we’re really glad that Nancy was able to make the time to join us.
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4/27/2022 • 36 minutes, 51 seconds
The One with Rocky Clark
Rocky Clark is a rugby union legend.
The most-capped England player ever with 137 international appearances to her name, she represented her country over a fifteen year career that included three World Cup runners-up medals and – in 2014, that elusive World Cup win.
Made an MBE in 2015, she’s a now passionate and dedicated coach, pundit, summariser and personal trainer – and she’s an absolutely brilliant guest to have on the podcast as well.
We talk about everything you would expect from her illustrious career – how she got her start, her England debut, transforming her training, winning the World Cup and more.
But there’s also the personal story as well - about the growth and changes she’s seen in women’s sport, becoming comfortable with her own sexuality (including some of the unpleasant things Rocky had to deal with), why inclusivity made her a better player, and why it makes her a better coach.
And as if that wasn’t enough to make you listen, we also talk about TikTok, and the joys of having a bar in your garden!
It’s a cracking episode, and one that we think you will love!
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4/20/2022 • 35 minutes, 19 seconds
The One with Mark Foster
Mark Foster is one of the UK’s most successful swimmers of all time.
During more than two decades in the pool, he won 51 international medals; competed at five Olympic Games; won World, European and Commonwealth titles; and broke world records again and again.
In 2008, he was the British flag-bearer at the Opening Ceremony of the Olympics in Beijing – and is now a commentator, broadcaster and motivational speaker.
He opened up publicly for the first time about the fact he’s gay in 2017 – and he’s someone we’ve wanted to have on the podcast since the moment we started.
So, the fact that we’ve finally managed to make it happen is great – and this is a cracking conversation.
We talk about Mark’s career, his drive, his desire to better himself, some of most memorable moments in the sport, keeping his sexuality hidden from people in sport, coming out and why he chose to do it – and so, so much more.
Honestly, this is a cracker – and we really think you’re going to like it.
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4/13/2022 • 41 minutes, 31 seconds
The One with Osian Jones
Osian Jones smashed a record that stood for more than thirty years when he broke the Welsh men’s hammer record in 2017.
Throw in two Commonwealth Games – including a seventh-place finish on Australia’s Gold Coast in 2018 – and you can see why the Welshman is such a formidable competitor in the world of athletics.
Osian is also a fan of the podcast – so when he reached out to us, saying he’d been listening for a while and wanted to share his own journey on the show, we were absolutely up for having him on for a chat.
It’s the first time Osian has spoken publicly about his sexuality, and it always means a lot when someone trusts us to tell their story for the first time.
And, as always, this is a cracking chat – as Osian shares where his love of the hammer came from, training in lockdown, his goals for the upcoming season, the journey he’s been on when it comes to understanding his own sexuality, and why he wants to the LGBTQ+ community to know he’s a part of it.
We're so grateful to Osian for reaching out, and we really think you'll like this episode.
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4/6/2022 • 34 minutes, 15 seconds
The One with Matthew Mitcham
Matthew Mitcham will always have a place in sporting history.
In 2008, the Australian became the first out gay man to win an Olympic gold medal when he triumphed in the diving at the Beijing Olympics – and set a new Olympic record in the process.
It marked the high-point of a remarkable sporting comeback for Matthew, who had only returned to diving fifteen months before after falling out of love with a sport where he felt he couldn’t be his authentic self.
That theme of authenticity is something that comes up time and time again during our chat with Matthew – which, we promise, is an absolute cracker.
We talk about Matthew’s diving career; leaving the sport and returning to it (including what changed that made him want to come back); using his platform to help others; inclusivity; authenticity – and where his medal is at the moment.
Matthew is someone we’ve wanted to have on the podcast from pretty much the moment it started, and we’re grateful we’ve finally made it happen.
It doesn’t disappoint.
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3/30/2022 • 37 minutes, 25 seconds
The One with the Referees
Who would be a referee?
If you’ve ever asked yourself that question, you’re in luck – as we’ve assembled some of the very top officials who have joined us on the podcast since 2018 to discuss what it is that motivated them to become one in the first place.
In this trip through the archives, you’ll hear extraordinary stories from individuals who have taken charge of World Cup Finals, World Series games and more – and understand exactly what it is that makes them tick.
From handling the pressure of calling a decision correctly to the influence of social media to their own personal journeys, this is a cracking listen and a brilliant trip down memory lane with some of the very top referees in the world today.
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3/23/2022 • 37 minutes, 35 seconds
The One with Riley Parks
We’re going to back to the grassroots and crossing the Atlantic today for an episode with someone who has a story that many people can relate to.
A promising young athlete, Riley Parks raced at a college level – and now competes as a member of the US Navy. He does road-races for fun – and when he’s not doing that, it’s skiing that is his passion.
He’s also a regular listener to the podcast – and when he reached out to ask to come on for a chat, that was something we definitely were up for.
And while he may not be a known name, we definitely thought it was worthwhile hearing from a grassroots athlete about his experiences in the world of sport – and as a member of the LGBTQ+ community.
So, we talk about his love of sport; his coming out story; his journey – all the usual stuff you’d expect – as well as life in the military, and whether anyone can learn how to ski.
It’s a different sort of episode but one we think you’re going to like, and we’re really grateful to Riley for reaching out for a chat.
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3/20/2022 • 28 minutes, 11 seconds
The One with the Gay and Lesbian Tennis Alliance
It’s got tens of thousands of members who play right around the world.
In fact, with more than 70 global tournaments each year, the Gay and Lesbian Tennis Alliance may well be the biggest tennis organisation that you’ve never heard of.
Daniel Merrithew is the GLTA’S President and Commissioner – in fact, he’s been in that role longer than anyone else who before him.
It’s a role that takes him across the world, dropping in on the dozens of clubs who are members – and it was Dan’s own experiences in tennis that got him involved in the first place.
So, we get into all of that on the podcast – Daniel’s journey in tennis, the changes he’s seen in the sport, the difference the GLTA has made, Pride Days at the Grand Slams and so much more, all on this episode which we think you’re going to love!
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3/20/2022 • 25 minutes, 25 seconds
The One with Chris Powell
Chris Powell loves cricket.
A handy leg-spinner growing up, he played Minor Counties cricket as well as for Gloucestershire’s second XI and, after completing a masters degree in sports science, returned to the club where he now works as a physio.
Chris is also gay and, having come out to colleagues at the club in 2017, is now joining us for his first-ever podcast interview to chat about his story.
This is a brilliant conversation with a top guest who made a real splash when he shared his story on Gloucestershire’s website as part of LGBT+ History Month – and we’re delighted to have him on the podcast today.
We talk about Chris’ career; his love of sport; his journey with his own sexuality; sharing his story, both with the club and with the wider public; being inspired by Steve Davies; where cricket stands at the moment when it comes to inclusivity; learning Spanish – and how it feels to be hit by a ball in nets!
This is a top chat with a brilliant guest, and we really think you’re going to like it.
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3/16/2022 • 36 minutes, 19 seconds
The One with Izzy Cerullo
Izzy Cerullo is someone with a sporting CV to envy.
Born in the United States to Brazilian parents, the rugby star is a double-Olympian, a Pan-American Games bronze medallist, a five-time South American champion and the first Brazilian to become an ambassador for the Athlete Ally charity.
And if you didn’t know any of that, you’ll almost certainly have seen the moment when Izzy’s now-wife Marjorie proposed to her following the Olympics in Rio.
After retiring, Izzy has become an ambassador for the Gay Games, and is now a member of the Organising Committee for the Olympics and Paralympics in Los Angeles in 2028.
So, this is a cracking conversation with someone we’ve wanted to have on the podcast for a long time, where we talk about all of that and more – from the pride of pulling on your country’s jersey to crowdfunding your Olympic journey, to visibility, retirement, finding a new career… and yes, that proposal!
We really loved this episode, and we think you will as well.
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3/9/2022 • 37 minutes, 10 seconds
The One with Nat Sciver and Katherine Brunt
We’re taking you to New Zealand on the podcast today - where England are about to begin their campaign to retain the Women’s World Cup which they won in that thrilling final with India at Lords back in 2017.
And if they do manage to claim back-to-back titles, two of the main reasons will be Katherine Brunt and Nat Sciver – who, in addition to being team-mates, announced their engagement in October, 2019.
We’ve wanted to have them both on the podcast for a long time, so we’re delighted that we’ve managed to make it happen - and boy, does this conversation deliver.
It's a powerful, moving and searingly honest chat with two genuine stars of the game that covers so many different topics.
We talk about life in New Zealand; their memories of that final with India at Lords; the changes they’ve seen in the development of their game; their own journeys with their sexualities; wedding planning and more.
It’s all coming up in a truly powerful episode, and we’re really glad Katherine and Nat found the time to make it happen with us.
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3/4/2022 • 32 minutes, 57 seconds
The One with Bruce Mouat
If you watched even a few minutes of the Winter Olympics in Beijing, you’ll know who Bruce Mouat is.
And on the off-chance you've been living under a rock and don't know the name, then you'll certainly know the hat!
The Scot skipped Team GB’s men to silver in China last month and then – just a few hours after earning Britain their first medal of the Games – was chosen to be the flag-bearer at the closing ceremony.
Throw in a clutch of World and European medals, and you can see why we were so keen to get him on the podcast – and after a whirlwind return from the Olympics that's included appearances at Murrayfield and a chance encounter with Judge Rinder, we’ve managed to make it happen.
This whole conversation is one you’ve been clamouring for, and it absolutely delivers – as we discuss everything from the Games to Bruce’s coming out story to being inspired by Tom Daley to be his authentic self in sport.
And the hat. We talk about the hat a lot.
It’s a cracker, this one – and we’re really grateful to Bruce for taking the time to join us.
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3/2/2022 • 36 minutes, 32 seconds
The One with Pride In Tennis
It seems like more and more networks are springing up in sport to support the LGBTQ+ community – and earlier this month, we got another one.
At the LTA’s National Tennis Centre in Roehampton, ‘Pride in Tennis’ was launched – with the aim of making the sport a place where everyone feels welcome, regardless of their sexual orientation or gender identity.
Ryan Watson founded the South London Smashers; Ian Pearson-Brown founded Pride in Tennis; and David Hardman is the Inclusion Development Manager at the LTA.
They were all at the launch, and all three join us for this episode of the podcast to talk about all things tennis–related.
From their own journeys in the sport, to the founding of the network, to what the sport needs to do to make people feel welcome in it - yes, this really is a cracking episode!
It’s always great to mark the start of a new network, and we’re really grateful that Ryan, Ian and David were able to join us on the show this week.
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2/23/2022 • 35 minutes, 22 seconds
The One with Thomas Beattie
When Josh Cavallo was thinking about coming out last year, there was one man he turned to for advice.
After all, Thomas Beattie was one of just a handful of people who knew how Josh would be feeling, after sharing his own coming out story with the world a little over a year earlier.
The ex-Hull City youth player had the chance to play professionally in Scotland with Kilmarnock, and ended up making it as a pro in Canada and Asia before hanging up his boots as the result of a serious head injury.
He says he wants to turn the pain he felt being a gay man in football, unable to share his identity, into his purpose – and we’re delighted we’ve finally been able to get Thomas onto the podcast for a real cracker of an episode.
We dot around across all sorts of topics in this episode – being scouted; his time in the game; finding himself and coming out; the support he provides to others; and why Thomas thinks it’s so important for people in the game to be open and honest about who they are.
We’re delighted we’ve been able to make this one happen, and we really think you’re going to like it!
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2/16/2022 • 35 minutes, 46 seconds
The One with Ryan Russell
It’s no surprise that Ryan Russell was smiling when we recorded this conversation.
After all, it’s Super Bowl season – and with just days to go until the Los Angeles Rams face the Cincinatti Bengals inside the cavernous SoFi Stadium, it’s one of his favourite times of year.
The defensive end had spells with the Dallas Cowboys, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the Buffalo Bills, lining up against the likes of Tom Brady, Eli Manning and more.
And in August, 2019, he came out in an interview with ESPN as the first active NFL player to talk publicly about their bisexuality.
So, since football is in the air – and since Ryan is someone we’ve wanted to have on for ages! – it made perfect sense to sit down and have this chat now, and it’s a brilliant one.
We talk about how he was discovered in the sport; how it feels to be drafted; playing against all-time greats; his own personal journey; Carl Nassib; the Super Bowl; the book Russ is writing, and loads more.
This one was an absolute treat to do, and we think you’ll love it as much as we do!
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2/7/2022 • 32 minutes, 16 seconds
The One with Kirsty Gilmour
Kirsty Gilmour was barely out of school when she went to her first Commonwealth Games in Delhi.
The Scottish badminton star first picked up a racquet at the age of four and has gone on to accomplish extraordinary things in the sport – including a silver medal at her home Commonwealth Games in the singles in 2014, and a bronze four years later on the Gold Coast in Australia.
Factor in two Olympic Games in Rio and Tokyo respectively, and multiple medals at a European level as well – and you can see why Gilmour has been a fixture in the world rankings for such a long time.
So, we were delighted when the Scot agreed to sit down for a chat with us about her life, career and personal journey – and this episode turned out to be an absolute joy.
From getting her start in the sport to her Commonwealth Games experiences to opening up about her sexuality, this is just a lovely, lovely conversation that we think you’re going to love – and we’re so grateful Kirsty was able to take the time to join us for it.
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2/2/2022 • 34 minutes, 54 seconds
The One with the Commentators
Have you ever wondered what it takes to make it as the person behind the microphone, calling some of the biggest moments in sport?
As a commentator, you put the lyrics to the music created by some of the world's top sportspeople - and when you get it right, there's no feeling quite like it.
So today on the podcast, we’ve got a special compilation episode featuring some of the best commentators that we’ve had on the show since 2018, discussing their careers in the industry and sharing some top tips on how to be a success in it.
This is a whistle-stop tour round the commentary boxes of the UK and further afield, as we discuss the art with a whole range of brilliant guests.
On this show, you’ll hear from:
- Test Match Special’s Scott Read
- Commentary legend Bob Ballard
- eSports commentator James ‘Stress’ O’Leary
- Rugby commentator Nick Heath
- Wrestling commentator Dave Bradshaw
- BBC Radio Manchester’s Manchester City commentator Mike Minay.
It’s a fantastic look at what the reality of life as a commentator is like, from breaking into the industry to how to master the craft – and we think it’s a cracker.
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1/26/2022 • 39 minutes, 6 seconds
The One with Sam Lansdale
Sam Lansdale has always had a passion for getting people into football.
A director and trustee with Sevenoaks Town, he’s volunteered as a referee, played as a teenager - and spent years coaching at a youth-level as well.
He really is dedicated to making the beautiful game a place where everyone feels welcome - but to do that, Sam had to first feel comfortable in himself, and be open with the footballing world about his sexuality too.
So, when he reached out to us about whether we’d fancy a chat with him about his experiences as a gay man in football, the only obvious answer was ‘yes’ – and this is a fascinating, powerful and raw conversation with a really interesting guy.
We talk about his journey, both on and off the pitch – and why being his authentic self was such a crucial part of his own footballing story in an episode we think you’ll love.
It’s genuine, authentic and a bit longer than we’d normally go - but we make no apologies for that, and when you hear this conversation, we think you'll understand why.
We’re really grateful to Sam for sharing his truth in such a powerful way – and we think you’ll love this conversation.
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1/19/2022 • 46 minutes, 17 seconds
The One with Tammy Parlour
Tammy Parlour’s love of sport really came about when she moved to the United States.
The martial art of Hapkido offered her a way to feel like she belonged in a new country – and once she tried it, she was hooked.
She has forty years of experience in the discipline under her belt as a student, teacher and coach – and in 2012, in the wake of the London Olympics, she was inspired to co-found the Women’s Sport Trust.
The charity – which Tammy is the CEO of - works to raise the profile and impact of women’s sport and, over the past ten years, has helped to reshape the sporting landscape.
So, you can imagine how excited we were to get the chance to speak with Tammy, and this episode doesn’t disappoint.
We talk about discovering Hapkido and the difference it made in her life; the different skills that are needed when it comes to teaching the martial art; the impact London 2012 had on her life; the early days and growth of the Women’s Sport Trust; her own personal journey – and so, so much more.
It’s a cracking conversation with a great guest that we really loved, and we think you will as well!
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1/12/2022 • 30 minutes, 54 seconds
The One with Matt Cecchin
There aren’t many referees who end their career with a guard of honour.
But that’s exactly what was given to Matt Cecchin after he finished his final NRL match in September – and brought the curtain down on a top-flight career that spanned more than 350 games.
The Australian had officiated at the highest level since the early 2000s, refereeing at the World Cup as well as in the Four Nations, while also taking charge of four State of Origin games and three NRL Grand Finals.
He also became one of the most high profile men in Australian sport to come out as gay, when he opened up publicly about his sexuality in 2012.
So, a cracking guest to kick off 2022 on the podcast – and there’s so much brilliant stuff in this conversation with Matt.
We talk about how he got into refereeing; getting his break at an elite level; some of his most memorable moments in the game, and dealing with pressure; coming out in his personal life and publicly; the fear he felt after sharing his story; being a role-model for the LGBTQ+ community in rugby; and decided to hang up his boots.
It’s a cracking conversation with someone we’re really fortunate to have had the chance to chat to, and we’re really grateful Matt took the time to join us.
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1/5/2022 • 31 minutes, 15 seconds
The One with The Best Bits of 2021 (July-December)
It’s time to bring the curtain down on 2021 with the second part of our ‘Year in Review’ special, as we remind ourselves of some of the brilliant guests who have joined us on the podcast between July and December.
There’s lots of topics on the agenda in this one – coming out in professional football; representation of the LGBTQ+ community in wrestling; winning an Olympic gold medal; standing up as an ally in Formula 1; and so, so much more.
It’s all in this episode, as well as much more – as we wrap up the biggest year we’ve ever had on this podcast.
And don’t worry – we’ve already got loads of cracking guests set for 2022 as well, and we can't wait to bring them to you in the new year.
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12/29/2021 • 39 minutes, 57 seconds
The One with The Best Bits of 2021 (January - June)
It’s been a bumper year on the BBC’s LGBT Sport Podcast, with more big guests than ever before.
So, to wrap up 2021, we’re taking a trip down memory lane for our next two episodes to remember some of the stars who have joined us over the past twelve months – and the brilliant stories they’ve shared.
Today’s guests all joined us between January and June - where we talked about everything from changing attitudes towards HIV; coming out as bisexual in rugby; making it as a professional footballer in Mexico; challenging stereotypes in surfing; finding a sport where you fit; and so much more.
It’s been great to remind ourselves of the brilliant stories that our top guests have shared with us in 2021 – and don’t forget, our second ‘Best of’ episode drops next week with some of the stories that stuck with us from July through to December.
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12/22/2021 • 42 minutes, 34 seconds
The One with Jake Williamson
It’s fair to say Jake Williamson has loved sport for as long as he can remember.
As a kid, he tried a bit of everything – but it was skiing, running and football that really stood out from the pack.
In fact, he was good enough to pursue a career at a professional level, trialling at Inverness Caledonian Thistle and travelling to Europe where he was offered a contract to play football full-time in Poland.
And while that dream didn’t quite work out, he still plays at a decent level now and, as well as doing personal training, is also a season ticket holder at Chelsea.
But for a long time, Jake didn’t think it was possible to be all those things – and to be gay as well.
So, he pushed the feelings he had for men down, and it was only when he met his partner Paul that he realised he was ready to tell his friends and family about his sexuality.
Now, he’s sharing his story with us on this podcast, in the hope that it can help others who may be in the same situation.
This is a cracking conversation, it really is – on Jake’s love of the beautiful game; those experiences in Poland and Scotland; his love of staying active; how his relationship helped him gain the confidence to share his story; the importance of role-models and language; and so much more.
It’s all here in an open, honest and fascinating chat that we really think you’ll like.
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12/17/2021 • 36 minutes
The One with Pride of Irons
It seems odd for the founder of West Ham’s LGBTQ+ supporters group to come from family containing plenty of Spurs fans – but that’s exactly what happened with Jim Dolan.
In fact, that seems to be a running theme amongst the folks at Pride Of Irons – because Jim’s co-chair Jo Bailey also has a smattering of Spurs fans in her family (although as you’ll hear from the recording, not the huge amount I may have implied!).
Either way, both Jim and Jo ended up as passionate West Ham fans – and this is an absolutely cracking episode that we think you're going to love about their respective journeys in football, and the growth of Pride of Irons.
There’s so much good stuff on tap for this one – the passion and highs-and-lows of following your team; visibility in football; why Jim started tweeting about being an LGBTQ+ West Ham fan and how that led to Pride of Irons; how Jo discovered it and what it mean to her; being embraced by your club; West Ham’s season so far and so much more.
It’s honestly a brilliant chat that we really think you’ll like it – and we’re hugely grateful to Jim and Jo for taking the time.
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12/15/2021 • 37 minutes, 19 seconds
The One on the Commonwealth Sport Pride Network
‘The network is just the start’.
That’s the message from Katie Sadleir – the former Commonwealth Games swimmer and current CEO of the Commonwealth Games Federation – on the day that the Federation launches the Commonwealth Sport Pride Network.
The group will champion LGBTQ+ inclusion across the Commonwealth sport movement, and aims to bring together LGBTQ+ athletes, coaches, organisers and allies to promote visibility and awareness.
But how easy is that to achieve – especially when LGBTQ+ people are still criminalised or marginalised in scores of countries that will be part of the Games in Birmingham next year?
We’re delighted that Katie is here on the podcast to tell us more about it – and she’s not here alone either, as Jamaican swimming star Michael Gunning returns to the podcast to tell us about his involvement in helping the network to come about.
It’s a fascinating, newsworthy conversation with two great guests – and we’re grateful they both took the time to join us for it.
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12/8/2021 • 30 minutes
The One with Cameron Kirton
If you’ve enjoyed any of the content that Manchester City has put out over the past few years, there’s a good chance that Cameron Kirton is behind it in some way.
He’s a video producer with the club – so has a hand in creating bucketloads of the content that you’ll have seen everywhere from the club’s website to its YouTube channels.
Basically, he helps take us to the places where we just aren’t able to go – and it’s fair to say he absolutely loves his job!
So, it’s brilliant to be able to get Cameron onto the podcast to talk about his life and his story – including how he found himself in a role that so many people will be very, very jealous of.
This is a fascinating conversation – as Cameron talks about the unlikely way he was introduced to football; taking a punt on himself to pursue something he loves; adapting to the ever-changing media landscape; being a gay man in professional football; becoming a father and so much more.
This is a cracking episode that we think you’re going to love – and we’re really grateful Cameron took the time to join us.
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12/8/2021 • 41 minutes, 6 seconds
The One with Sarah-Jane Perry
As a child, Sarah-Jane Perry played pretty much every sport going.
Rounders, tennis, athletics, hockey – they were all part of her life, but it was squash that she really fell in love with.
In 2011, just before finishing university, Sarah-Jane decided to turn professional – and what a decade it’s been in the ten years since then!
Ranked Number 6 in the world, she’s one of the world’s leading squash players – with a Commonwealth Games silver medal and a 2014 World Team Championship gold amongst her many, many accolades.
So, you can see why we were so delighted to have Sarah-Jane on the podcast – and this episode really delivers.
There’s all sorts of things that come up in this cracking conversation – how Sarah-Jane became a professional and the road to taking that decision; some of her remarkable sporting highs; her own personal journey and being inspired by the likes of Billie Jean King; why visibility is so important; and her aims for next year’s Commonwealth Games, which happen to be right on her doorstep!
We really loved this episode – and we think you will as well.
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12/1/2021 • 33 minutes, 5 seconds
The One with Ian Pearson-Brown
Ian Pearson-Brown was brought up with Newcastle United in his blood.
He was there for the club’s remarkable rise up through the leagues - and has followed them, home and away, from the heyday of Kevin Keegan’s time in charge to the turbulence of the Mike Ashley era.
Like many LGBTQ+ people, he struggled with his sexuality – and in his own words, he became ‘the most homophobic gay man you’d ever meet’, as he hid the fact he was gay while sometimes even joining in with discriminatory chants on the terraces.
So, to say that a young Ian would have been surprised to see himself as co-chair of United with Pride – Newcastle United’s LGBTQ+ supporters group – would be a massive understatement!
And speaking of understatements, it's fair to say that neither Ian nor United with Pride have had the easiest of times since the Saudi Arabia-backed takeover of Newcastle United was confirmed last month.
So, there’s plenty for us to get into in this episode – from United with Pride’s decision to welcome and work with the new owners; what might make them reconsider that decision; the social media abuse they’ve received over the past few weeks; Ian’s own love of Newcastle United; his own personal journey; some of his most memorable moments as a fan; and so much more.
It’s all in an episode that's sure to get people talking – and we’re grateful that Ian has taken the time to join us for it.
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11/24/2021 • 34 minutes, 18 seconds
The One with the European Gay and Lesbian Sport Federation
It was founded in 1989 by a group of clubs in Germany and the Netherlands.
And in the three decades that have passed since then, the European Gay and Lesbian Sport Federation has grown into a body that represents more than 22,000 members from right across the continent.
The goal is simple – to represent all athletes in Europe, regardless of their sexual orientation or gender identity, and to help administer the EuroGames event as well.
Sarah Townsend and Hugh Torrance are the co-presidents of the EGLSF, and are two cracking guests to have on the show to tell us all about the Federation's work.
We chat about their respective journeys in sport; how they got involved with the EGLSF ; running EuroGames; keeping going during COVID; the work being done by EGLSF; and so much more.
Two brilliant guests on one superb episode – and we think you’re really going to like it.
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11/17/2021 • 33 minutes, 38 seconds
The One with Helen and Kate Richardson-Walsh
Helen and Kate Richardson-Walsh are British sporting superstars.
They're both double Olympic medal-winning hockey players, taking bronze at London 2012 and then gold in a penalty shootout with the Netherlands at the 2016 Olympics in Rio in one of the most iconic moments of the Games.
Kate captained the side for thirteen years – and we really don’t have the space to fully document two careers that spanned four Olympic Games, alongside bundles of medals at both a European and Commonwealth level as well!
Now, they’ve written a fascinating book called ‘Winning Together’, which gives the inside story of what it takes to build high-performing teams.
The book, and this conversation, is a fascinating insight into the drive, sacrifice and effort that it takes to win an Olympic gold medal – and is gritty, frank and, at times, very emotional. We also talk about the importance of LGBTQ+ visibility, their own personal journeys – and the awkwardness of trying your hand at stand-up comedy!
This is a fascinating chat with two bona fide British sporting legends – and we’re grateful to Helen and Kate for making the time to join us.
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11/10/2021 • 34 minutes, 44 seconds
The One with Max Lindsay
Max Lindsay went to his first Southampton game when he was just three years old.
It was at The Dell – and he missed Saints’ last-minute equaliser because he needed the loo!
But in spite of that, the experience got Max hooked on football – and now, he’s one of the co-founders of the club’s ‘Rainbow Saints’ inclusive supporters group.
It started earlier this year – and, since Max’s day-job happened to put him in Cornwall, we thought it was only right to get us in the podcast to talk about how it all came about.
This is a brilliant conversation, looking at everything from developing a love of football to handling abuse on the terraces to taking a leap and starting something new – and we really think you’re going to like it.
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11/3/2021 • 31 minutes, 59 seconds
The One with Helen Hardy
Helen Hardy’s obsession with football started at the same time as Euro ’96 – and continued throughout her childhood, as she’d go along to St James’ Park to watch Newcastle United in action.
She played at primary school and intended to keep going until – as for so many girls – the game was taken away from her at secondary school, and just staying involved with football became so much harder, for no reason whatsoever.
Her determination to get back into football – and to allow other women to do the same – is what led Helen to found Manchester Laces – the city’s first-ever inclusive women’s and non-binary football club.
And honestly, this conversation is an absolute joy with someone who lives and breathes the beautiful game. From Helen’s own experiences growing up to the ethos behind the Laces, just sit back and listen to a fantastic guest with a brilliant, brilliant story to tell.
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10/29/2021 • 34 minutes, 41 seconds
The One with David Gough
It’s hard to remember a time when football wasn’t in David Gough’s life.
We’re talking GAA – which David first started playing when he was just a child in Ireland. Soon, he got into refereeing – and since then, he hasn’t looked back.
As one of the top officials in Gaelic football, he’s done everything there is to do in the sport – and he also made headlines when he opened up about the fact he’s gay.
We’ve wanted to have David on the podcast for a long time – and this episode really delivers with a truly brilliant guest.
There’s so much we talk about – finding sport as a youngster; David’s refereeing journey; the pressures that come with elite officiating; deciding to open up about his sexuality and what happened afterwards; and how he switches off.
Honestly, this is a cracker – and we’re so glad David took the time to join us.
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10/27/2021 • 35 minutes, 45 seconds
The One with Adam Crafton
If you’re a football fan, you’re going to have read something brilliant by Adam Crafton.
Formerly of the Daily Mail, he’s now a reporter at The Athletic, where he’s written powerfully about everything from UEFA’s relationship with Eastern European governments to a moving look of the life of Justin Fashanu.
So if you love the beautiful game, you’re in for a treat with this episode – as Adam joins us to talk about how he broke into journalism; some of the top stories he’s covered; his experiences of being a gay man in football; his time at the Athletic; journalism in the pandemic; and so, so much more.
This one is an absolute pleasure to do, as Adam is a brilliant guest – and we think you’ll like hearing it as much as we liked doing it.
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10/22/2021 • 34 minutes, 39 seconds
The One for Black History Month
October is Black History Month - and we wanted to use this episode of the podcast to spotlight some of the brilliant black sportspeople who have joined us over the course of the past three years.
So, we’ve gone back into the archives to revisit some great conversations featuring people who are smashing it at all levels in their chosen discipline, and hear their stories from in and out of sport.
We’ll hear from Olympians, pro-wrestlers, activists, grass-roots athletes and more on this trip down memory lane for this special compilation episode.
Don’t forget, all our guests have in-depth interviews in the back-catalogue that you can hear in full – and you can see more brilliant content for Black History Month across BBC Sport’s platforms throughout October.
And stay listening to the end of this episode, as we start to dip into our reviews to look at exactly where people join us from each week!
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10/20/2021 • 36 minutes, 45 seconds
The One with James Adcock
With a childhood love of the beautiful game and a father who officiated in the Football League, it somehow seemed inevitable that James Adcock would find his way into refereeing.
And with more than 500 matches under his belt in a career that’s taken him from the amateur level to the Premier League, it’s fair to say James has now done pretty much everything when it comes to being a ref.
James also happens to be gay – and has decided that now is the right time to talk publicly about his sexuality for the first time on this special episode of the podcast, which coincides with National Coming Out Day.
This is a cracker of an episode that touches on all sorts of different things – how it feels to walk out in front of 40,000 fans at places like Elland Road and Old Trafford; the highs and lows of refereeing; telling his colleagues and now, the wider world, about his sexuality; how he hopes the footballing world as a whole will react to his story; whether he’s happy to be a role model to other LGBTQ+ people in the game: his love of fitness and staying healthy; starting a new business in lockdown; and so, so much more.
We’re really grateful James took the time to join us for a really memorable episode, and we think you’re going to like it.
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10/11/2021 • 34 minutes, 45 seconds
The One with Lor Sabourin
Lor Sabourin started rock-climbing when they were just twelve years old.
They had to overcome a fear of falling to really succeed in the sport - but now, they're known for conquering some of the most intimidating ascents out there.
Lor happens to be transgender - and the story of their journey in the sport is the subject of a brand-new film named 'They/Them’ which was released on Thursday and is available to view online right now.
So, it's the perfect time to have Lor onto the podcast - and they're an absolutely brilliant guest.
We cover all sorts of things in this episode, from overcoming a fear of falling; feeling like you belong in a sport; coming to terms with your own identity; opening themselves up to be the subject of a film – it’s all in here.
This truly is a fascinating conversation, and we’re so glad Lor was able to join us for it.
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10/7/2021 • 23 minutes, 29 seconds
The One with Raven Saunders
It was hard to watch the Olympics in Tokyo and not know who Raven Saunders is.
The Team USA athlete wore a collections of masks while competing that were inspired by Marvel Comics characters like the Hulk, and twerked in celebration after completing her final throw in the shotput.
After clinching a silver medal, she crossed her arms in an X on the podium to represent the ‘intersection of where all people who are oppressed meet’ – and has used her platform to talk frankly about her own experiences of poor mental health, and her pride in being a black, gay woman.
So, we really were spoiled for choice when it came to this conversation, which touches on all those things and so, so much more. We really think this chat will stick with you for a long time, and we’re so grateful Raven made the time for it.
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10/6/2021 • 28 minutes, 11 seconds
The One with Joseph Parsons
Joseph Parsons has loved sport for as long as he can remember.
From the joys of non-league football to the thrill of getting along to Ashton Gate, it's always been part of the comedian's life - but like many LGBTQ+ people, he didn't always find it easy to reconcile that with his identity as a gay man.
Now, Joseph is turning his experiences of being an LGBTQ+ sports fan into a brilliant new hour of stand-up that explores issues like body image, LGBTQ+ equality in sport, and coming to terms with his own sexuality.
This conversation touches on all those things and so much more besides - and it's one we think you're absolutely going to love. It's a very, very funny chat - and if you've ever wondered what it's like to bomb in front of a Premier League legend, Joseph has you covered!
Plus, it's our 200th episode - so we look back at some of the brilliant guests who have joined us on the show over the past three years.
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9/29/2021 • 35 minutes, 44 seconds
The One with Nyla Rose
If you follow professional wrestling, you’ll know who Nyla Rose is.
A former AEW Women’s World Champion, she’s been a stalwart of the All Elite Wrestling women’s division since the company’s debut in 2019.
Nyla also happens to be the first transgender wrestler signed to a major American promotion – and as AEW prepares for its biggest show ever tonight in front of a sold out crowd in New York, we thought it was the perfect time to have her onto the show.
There’s so much in this conversation with Nyla – her love of wrestling; signing with AEW; winning the world championship; the importance of representation and visibility and so much more.
It’s a cracking conversation, and we’re chuffed to bits that Nyla found the time to join us for it.
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9/22/2021 • 26 minutes, 50 seconds
The One with Alex Baker
It’s been thirty years since Stonewall FC was founded in London as an inclusive place for people who wanted to play football.
Three decades on, the club has gone from strength to strength to strength – so it only made sense for us to speak with Stonewall FC’s club chair Alex Baker for a cracking episode of the podcast.
Alex has an amazing footballing story to tell in his own right – as a referee, the vice-president of IGLFA (the International Gay and Lesbian Football Association) and, as of the end of July, one of the National Game Community Reps on the FA Council with responsibility for increasing diversity and inclusion in the game.
This is a cracking conversation that takes in loads of different topics – from how Alex got into football (with a little Championship Manager chat!); finding Stonewall FC and the difference the club has made in his life; becoming a referee and the challenges and joys that come with that… honestly, there’s so much to enjoy in this one.
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9/17/2021 • 30 minutes, 29 seconds
The One with Sebastian Vettel and Matt Bishop
Sebastian Vettel is a legend of Formula 1.
The four-time world champion took part in his first grand prix when he was just nineteen years old, and has topped the podium in F1 on more than fifty occasions.
But recently, Vettel has made headlines due to his visibility as an LGBTQ+ ally, wearing rainbow-coloured attire at the Hungarian Grand Prix to show his support for the LGBTQ+ community in the country and around the world.
So, we’re delighted to welcome Sebastian to the podcast, alongside Aston Martin F1 comms chief Matt Bishop – who you might remember joined us last year to talk about his experiences of being a gay man in motorsport – for another of our special allyship episodes.
It’s a cracking conversation with two brilliant guests that we feel very lucky to be able to bring you, and we hope you enjoy it.
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9/7/2021 • 26 minutes, 20 seconds
The One with Cyd Zeigler
It’s no exaggeration to say Cyd Zeigler helped to change the game when it comes to telling LGBTQ+ stories in sport.
As the co-founders of Outsports.com, he’s been helping to share the stories of LGBTQ+ people in sport for more than two decades – with Michael Sam, John Amaechi and Conner Mertens just a few of the big names he’s worked with.
So, it only seemed right to finally have him on the show to talk about his own journey.
It’s a cracking listen, touching on all aspects of Cyd’s journey – from his own personal love of sport; the founding of Outsports and its growth; when he realised it was making a difference; how the sports landscape has changed; what the future looks like for Outsports; and so, so much more.
It’s a brilliant episode, this, with a great guest – and we really think you’re going to love it!
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9/1/2021 • 32 minutes, 46 seconds
The One with Lee Mottershead
If you want to know what’s going on in horse racing, there are few better people to ask than Lee Mottershead.
The Racing Post senior writer has covered all the big races during his time in the sport, and sat down for in-depth interviews with everyone from elite trainers to champion jockeys.
Lee also works with both the British Horseracing Authority and the Racing with Pride network to help increase diversity and inclusion in the sport, and is a cracking guest who we’ve wanted to have on the pod for ages.
This is a fascinating conversation that looks at all sorts of different things – where Lee’s passion for horse racing comes from; how he got his break in journalism and meeting his heroes; his most memorable stories; being an out gay man covering the sport; the Racing with Pride network and the work it does; and so, so much more.
It’s a great episode, this – and we really think you’ll like it.
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8/25/2021 • 32 minutes, 59 seconds
The One with Mel Haslam
It was the fear of failing to pass one of the Royal Navy’s fitness tests that really got Mel Haslam into sport.
She needed to meet that criteria to serve on the frontline in Afghanistan – which she ended up doing – but it also led Mel in directions she could never have dreamed of.
To kick things off from a sporting point of view, there were the European and World powerlifting events that she smashed, picking up titles and setting a world record in the process.
Once that was under her belt, she switched to winter sports – spending half a dozen years competing with the UK Armed Forces Skeleton Team, before switching to bobsleigh and becoming the top brakewoman in the Royal Navy.
She made her international GB Bobsleigh debut in January of last year – and is an absolutely brilliant guest to have on the podcast this week.
We talk about her experience in the military and her motivation to start taking fitness seriously; her powerlifting success and transitioning across to winter sports; why she’s proud to be an out woman in the Royal Navy; her goals for bobsleigh moving forward; and how she manages to switch off!
This is a great conversation with a fantastic guest that we think you’re really going to enjoy.
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8/18/2021 • 27 minutes, 5 seconds
The One with Joyce Cook
By anyone’s reckoning, Joyce Cook has an extraordinary story to tell.
She grew up loving football, kicking a ball around with the neighbours when she was just a child.
She began a career in nursing that took her around the world, and it was only when she unexpectedly became disabled that she became an active advocate for making the beautiful game accessible to everyone.
She became heavily involved with Women in Football, the FARE Network and others – and now, she champions equality as FIFA’s Chief Education and Social Responsibility Officer.
So, a great guest - and plenty to get into in an absolutely fascinating conversation.
We talk about Joyce’s personal story; her coming out in the workplace and the battles she had to fight there; the work she’s doing at FIFA when it comes to equality; holding the World Cup in Russia and Qatar and whether that sits well alongside FIFA’s diversity commitments; whether the rainbow is a political symbol and much, much more.
It’s all in this conversation, which we think you’re really going to enjoy – and we’re grateful that Joyce took the time to join us for it. It's a cracking episode, this one.
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8/11/2021 • 31 minutes, 34 seconds
The One with Dale Scott
He’s widely recognized as one of the best umpires in baseball.
With multiple World Series and All-Star Games under his belt, there’s very little Dale Scott failed to accomplish in a major league career that spanned more than three decades.
And in 2014, Dale Scott did something no other umpire before him had done when he came out publicly as gay.
We’ve wanted to have Dale on the podcast for a long time to talk about that and so much more, and this episode really doesn’t disappoint.
There’s loads of stuff on the table here – Dale’s own journey in the sport; how he dealt with the pressure of being an elite level umpire; making it to the major leagues; concealing his sexuality, and then opening up about it; and the process of writing his book, which will be hitting stores in the not-too-distant future.
Honestly, this one is a cracker – and we really think you’re going to like it!
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8/4/2021 • 34 minutes, 31 seconds
The One with Clay Davies
It’s been just about a week since Clay Davies shared his story with the world.
In a brilliant feature-length article with ‘The British Continental’ website, the elite rider from the Spirit Racing team spoke openly about his sexuality for the first time.
If you haven’t read it yet, we’d really suggest you go and find the piece and give it a read. It went viral on social media and in the world of cycling – and it’s fair to say that the few days after it was published were a bit of a whirlwind for Clay.
Now things have calmed down a little bit, we’re speaking to Clay about that article – and about his journey in the sport.
From how he got into cycling; to how a near-death experience changed his attitude to life and convinced him to come out; to his experiences in cycling when it came to sharing his sexuality; to what he does to switch off and relax – it’s a cracking episode with a brilliant guest that we think you’re really going to like.
It’s a cracking listen, and we’re really grateful Clay took the time to join us for it.
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7/30/2021 • 31 minutes, 56 seconds
The One on RVT Sports Day
It’s a sports day like no other, and is a vital fundraiser for one of the UK’s leading LGBTQ+ charities.
And after a year off due to COVID in 2020, the RVT Sports Day returns on Monday 30th August to raise money to support the work of LGBT HERO – the UK’s national health and wellbeing charity for LGBTQ+ people, who hold the event in partnership with the Royal Vauxhall Tavern.
Ian Howley is LGBT HERO’s chief executive – and the perfect person to talk to about an event that’s become iconic for many in the LGBTQ+ community.
We also discuss the work being done by LGBT HERO; the importance of health and wellbeing in the LGBTQ+ community; how the pandemic has affected the work it can do; what the return of RVT Sports Day means; and loads, loads more.
Some parts of the conversation are quite frank and powerful – with discussions of depression and suicide – but ultimately, the message is an uplifting one, about how the LGBTQ+ community is using sport to come together and support one another.
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7/28/2021 • 27 minutes, 55 seconds
The One on the UFC
On this day in 2013, a little bit of history was made in the UFC.
Jessica Andrade squared off with Liz Carmouche in the organisation’s first-ever match between two out gay fighters – and we thought that anniversary was the perfect opportunity to hear from not one, but three LGBTQ+ competitors who have graced the Octagon.
Up first, you’ll hear from Brazil’s Jessica Andrade, the former UFC Strawweight Champion and top contender in the Flyweight Division – who, speaking through an interpreter, tells us all about her experiences in the sport and why she’s proud to be a role-model.
Then, we’ll take a trip back into the archives to hear from Jessica’s opponent on that day, as Liz Carmouche tells us how she got into MMA, and her own journey with her sexuality after being part of the Marine Corps during the era of ‘Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell’.
And any show looking at what it’s like to be an out woman in MMA has to include Molly McCann, as we revisit our chat with the pioneering English fighter and her own coming out story.
So, three amazing LGBTQ+ women from the world of MMA, sharing their stories on a special episode of this podcast.
We hope you like it.
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7/23/2021 • 27 minutes, 41 seconds
The One with Laura McAllister
It’s fair to say that Laura McAllister is a Welsh sporting legend.
The ex-Wales football captain played in every single one of the country’s international matches between 1994 and 2001, and is also a former chair of Sport Wales.
In April, she narrowly lost her bid to win a place as UEFA’s representative for women on FIFA’s ruling council, which was the latest move from a woman who is passionate about making the beautiful game a sport where everyone feels welcome.
Laura – who is also a professor of politics and sports governance – is someone we’ve wanted to have on the podcast for a little while, and this episode really doesn’t disappoint.
We chat about everything from her experiences in the beautiful game; why she wants to use her platform to help make the sport more inclusive; the pride of representing your country; the people who came before her that made football more welcoming to LGBTQ+ people; and the importance of authenticity in sport and in life.
We really, really enjoyed this one – and we think you will as well.
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7/21/2021 • 30 minutes, 54 seconds
The One with Grant Skene
Grant Skene has been with Aberdeen Taexali since its earliest days.
In fact, he’s played an instrumental part in growing the club to where it is now, and it’s not just us saying that either.
Scottish Rugby agrees – which is why it gave him one of its Community Champion Awards at a special ceremony held last month.
He’s now Taexali’s head-coach – and a cracking guest to have on this episode of the podcast.
There’s loads in this conversation, from Grant’s love of rugby to the growth of Taexali to why inclusivity is such a crucial part of making rugby everyone’s game.
We’re grateful Grant took the time to join us for it – and we really think you’ll like this episode.
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7/14/2021 • 27 minutes, 33 seconds
The One with Bethany Tucker
It’s no exaggeration to say that sport changed Bethany Tucker’s life for good.
Born with cerebral palsy, she never really enjoyed PE at school – and only took it up again later in life when her chiropractor recommended it to help with her CP.
That suggestion ended up changing everything for Bethany – and the T37 para-athlete has now competed far and wide.
She’s been to Diamond League events, the City Games in Manchester, the Anniversary Games in London – and after opening up about her own sexuality, she’s also helping other athletes to feel more comfortable in sport as part of the Athletics Pride Network.
So, this is a fascinating chat with a great guest about all sorts of things.
From finding a sport that accepts you to finding yourself as a person, there’s plenty in it that we think you’re going to love - and we’re grateful Bethany made the time to join us.
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7/7/2021 • 31 minutes, 55 seconds
The One with Andy Paul
Andy Paul first got involved with Birchfield Harriers when he was 11 years old.
He was, by his own description, a fairly average athlete – but his love affair with the sport has existed ever since.
He’s been a club at the coach for decades, as well as a deputy-chair and chair – and now, he’s a life vice-president.
He’s also one of the founders of the Athletics Pride Network, which launched last year to help make athletics a place where more LGBTQ+ people feel welcome.
This is a conversation that touches on that; the plans for the network going forward; Andy’s own experiences of being LGBTQ+ in sport, and loads more besides.
He’s a brilliant, engaging talker – and we’re really glad Andy found the time to join us for a chat.
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6/30/2021 • 28 minutes, 3 seconds
The One with Jack Dunne
He’s 6 foot 7 inches tall, and combines his rugby career with studying theoretical physics at Trinity College, Dublin.
By anyone’s reckoning, Leinster’s Jack Dunne is no ordinary rugby player.
Today, he’s part of the club’s special Pride panel – alongside the likes of referee Craig Maxwell-Keys and Ireland international Lindsay Peat, as well as Richie Fagan from the Emerald Warriors inclusive rugby team and a load of other great guests.
But Jack isn’t just on that panel as a representative of the club.
He’s on the panel because he’s decided now is the right time to speak publicly about the fact he’s bisexual – and in the conversation you’re about to hear, which was recorded just a couple of hours before the panel took place, he’s been telling me how he came to that decision.
Now, to be clear – this isn’t a ‘coming out’ story – because Jack’s sexuality is no secret at Leinster, and he’s been working with ShoutOut Ireland to deliver educational workshops to LGBTQ+ youngsters across Ireland.
But this is the first time he's spoken to anyone in the media about his story, and we’re grateful he’s taken the time to join us today for it.
It’s a cracking conversation about his career, the importance of visibility in sport, and of being your true self – and we really hope you like it.
And once you’re done listening, make sure you visit Leinster’s YouTube and Facebook pages to see the panel in full.
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6/26/2021 • 25 minutes, 19 seconds
The One with Queer Surf Club
Born into a family of watersports enthusiasts who spent their holidays chasing the waves, it’s no surprise that Frazer Riley wanted to learn how to surf.
But the experience of doing it in a country where it was illegal to be gay helped inspire Frazer to create a community where LGBTQ+ surfers from around the world felt comfortable being themselves.
It’s called Queer Surf Club – and this month, it celebrated its first birthday with a special meet-up on a Devon beach.
So, now seemed the perfect time to head to the beach to find out all about it.
Frazer is a great guest, and there’s loads of good stuff in this chat – from the founding of the club to the difference its making to why everyone should be welcome in the sport.
We really think you’ll like this one!
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6/24/2021 • 26 minutes, 56 seconds
The Second One with Molly McCann
It’s not often that we have the same person on the podcast twice.
But MMA star Molly McCann made such a splash when she joined us in November that we wanted to have her back on – especially when she let us know that she was releasing her first-ever children's book.
Her collaboration with Sean Webster is called ‘Be True To You’ and is out at the end of the month, and that was reason enough to have her back on for a second chat.
We pick up the conversation with where we left off last time, talking about the reaction to her first appearance on the show, the experience of writing the book and bringing it together, the difference she thinks it’ll make, opening up about her personal experiences and more.
It's always great to chat with Molly – and we think you’ll like this conversation as much as our last one!
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6/23/2021 • 26 minutes, 16 seconds
The One with Rainbow Blades
It’s a club with a history that dates back more than 130 years.
And while Sheffield United fans probably won’t want to dwell on too many parts of the season that’s just gone, there is at least one reason to be positive.
Rainbow Blades is the club’s inclusive supporters group, and has just launched a new programme to celebrate all the ways that allies can play a role in making football everyone’s game.
So, we thought that was reason enough to chat with founder James Laley and campaign lead Anna Kent about the work they’re doing, and the difference it’s making.
There’s loads of great stuff in this chat – from James and Anna’s love of football, to why allies are so important, to what’s next for the club they both love.
We really think you’ll like this one!
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6/19/2021 • 27 minutes, 32 seconds
The One with Proud Lilywhites
It’s no secret that Jack is a massive Spurs fan.
So it’s probably a surprise to see it’s taken 180 episodes to get the club’s inclusive supporters group onto the podcast for a chat!
Chris Paouros, Lee Johnson and Sian Wallis are all from Proud Lilywhites, and this is a cracking conversation with three brilliant talkers who all have their own experiences of what it’s like to be LGBTQ+ in the beautiful game.
We chat about how they became Spurs fans; the history of Proud Lilywhites; how they’ve brought people together during lockdown; the importance of inclusivity and visibility in football; and some of their proudest moments as Spurs supporters.
This is a top conversation with some brilliant fans and role-models… and don’t worry Gay Gooners, we’ll have you on the show whenever you’d like!
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6/16/2021 • 38 minutes, 25 seconds
The One with Jon Lee-Olsen
Jon Lee-Olsen has been playing ice hockey since he was a youngster.
Inspired by his older brother, he took to the ice when he was around six years old – and hasn't looked back since. He turned professional, and has been living his dream as a professional player in Scandinavia for the past seven years or so.
And in October 2019, he made a bit of history when he came out on live TV in Denmark.
Opening up about his sexuality was a huge step for him – and he continues to use his platform to try and make sport open to everyone.
In fact, he’s now an ambassador for Copenhagen 2021, which sees both World Pride and EuroGames come to Copenhagen and Malmo in August.
So this is Jon Lee-Olsen’s story – from his love of skating to turning pro; his coming out story to using his platform to raise awareness; the joy of seeing EuroGames and World Pride coming to his country; and what food you should try if you happen to be there.
And if you love ice hockey, stick around to the end of this episode as we take a trip into the archives to hear from Zach Sullivan from Manchester Storm – who shared his story with us in March of last year.
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6/9/2021 • 22 minutes, 50 seconds
The One with Andrea Dobson
The word ‘legend’ is bandied about a lot – but it’s really the only one you can use to describe Andrea Dobson.
She was just sixteen years old when she made her debut for the Great Britain rugby league team.
Little did anyone know at that point that Andrea would become a stalwart of the game, playing in four World Cups and captaining England at the 2017 tournament in Australia.
And by the time she stepped away from the international scene, she had more England caps than anyone who had come before her.
Andrea still plays in the Women's Super League for Featherstone Rovers, and has just taken up a new job as the Rugby League Development Officer for the city of Sheffield.
And honestly, this is a brilliant chat with an all-round legend of the game.
We talk about getting your start in the game at such a young age; balancing an international career with the trials of everyday life; some of the ignorance that was attached to being a gay woman in the sport by those on the outside of it; retirement and her plans for when that moment comes; her new role; and so, so much more.
This is a cracking episode we really think you’re going to like.
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6/2/2021 • 26 minutes, 56 seconds
The One with PC Amy Tapping
PC Amy Tapping absolutely loves sport.
She grew up playing hockey as a goalkeeper, and has been doing dressage with her horse since he was a youngster.
But the reason Amy is on the podcast today is her role as the co-chair of the National LGBT+ Police Network – where she’s helping to make May 28th the UK’s first LGBT+ Domestic Violence Awareness Day.
And given the audience we have on this show, we really wanted to give her the platform to come on and chat about an important issue that doesn’t get discussed enough.
So yes, there’s plenty of chat about sport, and we find out more about Amy as a person as well – including what she made of Line of Duty!
But the main part of this conversation is about highlighting the problem of domestic violence in the LGBTQ+ community, and how we can help to change it.
We discuss what forms that violence can take; how you can spot it; the unique way it can impact on the LGBTQ+ community; the ways you can get help; and so much more beside.
It’s not always an easy conversation.
But it’s a real one, an honest one, and an important one to have – and we’re really grateful that Amy joined us for it.
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5/26/2021 • 29 minutes, 25 seconds
The One with the International Gay and Lesbian Football Association
Since 1992, the International Gay and Lesbian Football Association has been working to promote and grow LGBTQ+ soccer around the world.
More than 100 teams and clubs have played in their competitions over the years – and just a short time ago, at the Compete Sports Diversity Summit in Arizona, we found out about their latest one.
The announcement confirmed that the IGLFA World Championships will be coming to Buenos Aires in 2024, with the full support of the Argentine Football Association.
It’s a big moment for IGLFA to get the backing of a national body like the AFA – and on this special episode of the podcast, you’ll hear from two of the people responsible for making it happen.
Up first, it’s IGLFA president Gus Penaranda - who gives us a fascinating insight into his love of soccer, his experiences in the game, and the hard work that has gone into making this tournament happen.
And after Gus, it’s referee Ryan Atkin – a friend of the podcast who is also an IGLFA official – talking about why IGLFA means so much to him, and how preparations from Buenos Aires are going.
So, two cracking guests, talking about one big announcement!
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5/23/2021 • 31 minutes, 59 seconds
The One with Abby Dunkin
Abby Dunkin grew up shooting hoops on the driveway of her home in Texas.
In fact, for as long as she can remember, she has loved basketball – and that becomes clear when you take a look at her sporting CV.
She’s a two-time national champion and 2016 Paralympic champion, helping Team USA to bring home the gold in the wheelchair basketball.
And almost exactly a year after announcing her retirement, it’s the perfect time to sit down with Abby to talk about her extraordinary career.
We look at her love of the game; the medical conditions that left her unable to walk; bouncing back from hitting rock-bottom; the Paralympics; representation of the LGBTQ+ community in sport and so much more.
We think you’ll really like Abby, so definitely go and give her a follow!
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5/19/2021 • 27 minutes, 12 seconds
The One with Lizzie Seedhouse
Lizzie Seedhouse still remembers the day she saw an advert for her first football team.
She was reading a newspaper at her grandma’s house in Sheffield – and from that moment onwards, her love of the beautiful game has been an ever-present part of her life.
Lizzie played for Sheffield Wednesday Ladies, then backed herself to move to America and prove herself at a collegiate level – thanks in no small part to the film ‘Bend It Like Beckham’.
Now she’s Senior Vice President at the USL (United Soccer League) – which is North America’s largest and fastest growing soccer organisation - and it’s there that Lizzie has helped the League launch its ‘Forever Proud’ Project, which focuses on making sure LGBTQ+ fans, employees and partners feel like they belong, not only in the game but in society as a whole.
This is a fascinating chat with Lizzie about that initiative and so much more – her life in the States and early relationship with soccer; how sport has the ability to drive social change; why visibility is important; and what she misses about living in the UK.
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5/12/2021 • 28 minutes, 35 seconds
The One on the Unicorns vs Graces Match
A little later this month, two cricket teams will step out onto a pitch in the UK to play each other for the first time – and make a little bit of history.
The match between Graces and Unicorns is the first time that two LGBTQ+ sides have ever had a game of cricket against each other.
And that’s because, up until last year, Graces were the world’s only inclusive side – with the Unicorns only established in 2020.
The game is happening on Sunday 23rd May at 1pm, 40 overs a side – and we thought that was the perfect excuse to get a roundtable together to talk all about inclusivity in men’s cricket.
Up first, you’re going to hear from:
Manish Modi and Leo Skyner from Graces.
Lachlan Smith, the founder of Unicorns.
Rob Evans, who will be umpiring the historic match.
And then after that, you’ll hear from Henry Cowen, who is the Communications Manager for England’s Women’s Team – and has his own take on the importance of inclusivity in the game.
It’s a bumper conversation, full of great chat for cricket fans – and we think you’ll really like it.
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5/4/2021 • 42 minutes, 39 seconds
The One with International Gay Rugby
It has more member clubs than some national governing bodies, and was set up to make sure people in the LGBTQ+ community were able to enjoy rugby as their authentic selves.
But International Gay Rugby (IGR), like all major sporting bodies, has had its own challenges to overcome during in the pandemic – and that’s also true for chair Karl Ainscough-Gates.
He became IGR chair in the summer of 2020 – and immediately had to deal with things like the postponement of the Bingham Cup, managing IGR’s relationship with World Rugby and more.
So, now things have settled a little bit, we thought it was the perfect time to sit down with Karl to chat about both IGR and his love of rugby.
That’s what this conversation is about – how he got into the sport; why inclusivity matters; how rugby has become more inclusive over the years; why allyship matters; what the plans are for a year of celebrations for IGR’s 20th anniversary; and whether he still enjoys the game as much as he used to!
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4/28/2021 • 28 minutes, 51 seconds
The One with EFFY
If you love professional wrestling, you’re in for a treat with this episode.
Our guest today is EFFY – the trailblazing professional wrestler who is making waves in the industry, as well as creating a space for LGBTQ+ people to be their authentic selves inside the squared circle.
He’s someone who isn't just a wrestler – but an entertainer, an entrepreneur, and someone that many in the industry truly look up to.
And in this fascinating conversation, we talk all about his life, his career, and everything in between.
From growing up watching Tully and Dusty, to what makes a great match; why wrestling is such a unique form of entertainment, and how it can help make social change happen – as well as what the future has in store.
Honestly, if you love wrestling, you’ll love this episode!
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PHOTO CREDIT: Michael Watson (@brainbuster_ on Instagram)
4/26/2021 • 34 minutes, 57 seconds
The One with Justice Horn
Justice Horn grew up in a family where sport was second nature.
His parents were involved in athletics; an uncle played in the NFL; a sister played volleyball - the list goes on and on.
For Justice, it was wrestling where he found his love - first at high school, and then at collegiate level at Northern State University in South Dakota.
As a black, gay man in a predominantly straight, Caucasian sport, Justice had to blaze his own trail - and that's just one of the fascinating things we chat about in today's episode.
We also discuss what made Justice switch to rugby; why he's using his platform to help drive change; how the pandemic has impacted on his family; and how he switches off from sport.
It's a fascinating chat with a really interesting man - and we think you'll enjoy it.
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4/20/2021 • 27 minutes, 11 seconds
The One with the Leeds Hunters
It’s a special Tuesday episode of the podcast, as we head back to the grassroots level and shine a spotlight on another of the UK’s inclusive rugby clubs.
The Leeds Hunters have only been back in training for a couple of weeks – but in this episode, you’ll be able to hear exactly how much it means to be back on the pitch and back together as a club.
It’s only fitting for a side that has gone from strength to strength since it was founded in 2016, finding success at all sorts of event – including most notably at the 2019 Union Cup in Dublin where they won the Cu Chulainn Cup.
We’ve got four of the squad on the show today – so you’ll hear from Ross Hoyland, Michael Clarke, Alasdair Clipston and Dean Grant.
There is loads of great stuff on the agenda as always – from their respective journeys in rugby to the importance of the Hunters in their daily lives.
We also hear about a case of mistaken identity, the joys of Zoom quizzing, and a very, very impressive chair!
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4/20/2021 • 28 minutes, 59 seconds
The One with Janelly Farias
Janelly Farias always knew she wanted to play football.
And through hard work, determination and sheer grit, she made it happen – becoming an international star for Mexico, and plying her trade domestically for the likes of Houston Dash, LA Galaxy, and her current club of Club América Femenil in Mexico City.
She’s also a TV analyst who worked as a commentator and pundit for the Women’s World Cup in 2019 – basically, she’s succeeded in making football her life.
But getting to that stage was a long, hard slog – with financial and cultural obstacles that Janelly had to overcome.
She also faced a battle in her personal life, when it came to getting the people she loved most to accept the fact she’s gay.
At times, that part of Janelly’s story got pretty dark – but she came out the other side of it, and she’s now committed to using her platform to help others.
And this conversation is part of that – as we chat with Janelly about her love of football; the inequality between the men and women’s game; how football can help to mould and change social attitudes for the better; playing in a pandemic; life after retirement; and so much more.
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4/14/2021 • 25 minutes, 22 seconds
The One with Ben Watkiss
In some ways, it’s no surprise at all that Ben Watkiss is doing what he does now.
His father was a professional footballer, and Ben always wanted to have a career in the game – and that’s exactly what he’s ended up doing.
At first, he thought it might be through refereeing – but when that didn’t quite work out, Ben turned to strength and conditioning work, which is what he does now with Burton Albion in League One.
Ben’s story is more remarkable because, for a long time, he was worried his sexuality would stop him belonging in the beautiful game – and now, he speaks to shows like ours to try and dispel that narrative, and show that everyone has a right to belong in football.
So, this is a cracking chat about all aspects of Ben’s personal and professional journey.
From getting an introduction to the game at an early age to refereeing to finding a place in football where he fits, and why he wants more LGBTQ+ people with a passion for the sport to pursue a career in it – yeah, we really think you’ll like this episode.
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4/9/2021 • 25 minutes, 21 seconds
The One with David Mason
On today’s show, we’re all at sea – as we find out more about the group that's been the home of LGBTQ+ sailing in the UK for more than forty years.
David Mason is the Commodore of the Sailing and Cruising Association, which was meant to be celebrating its ruby anniversary last year.
The pandemic meant that couldn’t happen, but plans are afoot for a proper celebration when restrictions allow.
And we thought it was only right to have David on the show to talk more about the Association’s history; how he got involved with it; the Gay Games; the importance of the social aspect; and so much more.
And if you’re a sailing fan, there’s a little bonus at the end – as we look back at our chat with Alan Baser, one of the most respected judges in world sailing, about what it’s like to officiate at an Olympic Games.
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4/7/2021 • 23 minutes, 42 seconds
The One with Stacey Pearson
Stacey Pearson is one of the UK’s top football referees.
She works at the highest level of the women’s game, taking charge of WSL matches on a weekly basis as well as officiating on the international stage.
She was added to the FIFA list in 2020, referees at stage 3 in the men’s game, and was assistant referee in front of more than forty thousand people at the 2018 Women’s FA Cup Final between Chelsea and Arsenal at Wembley Stadium.
She also had a stellar career as a player with Yeovil Town Ladies, and combines it all with her career as a PE teacher.
And while that is all incredibly important to Stacey, family comes first – and she and her partner Danielle have decided that now is the right time to open up about their IVF journey, and the challenges they’ve faced in starting and growing their family.
This powerful episode covers all those things – how Stacey got her start in football; transitioning from a player to a referee; dealing with the pressure of being an elite official; starting a family; the highs and lows of her and Danielle’s experiences with IVF; why they’re speaking out about their journey now, using their platform to push for change; and why talking is so, so important.
We’re so grateful that Stacey has taken the time to speak so openly about her journey with us, and we think this episode will stick with you for a long time.
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4/2/2021 • 39 minutes, 14 seconds
The One with Emma Smith
If you’re listening to this, there’s a good chance you’ll already know about Emma Smith’s work.
An assistant editor at the football website Goal, you’ve probably read her pieces on everything from the youth system at Real Madrid to Bundesliga stars that flopped in the Premier League - and much, much more besides.
She’s also worked at the Daily Mail and local newspapers as well – and whether it’s covering European matches at Spurs or looking at Britain’s up-and-coming F1 stars, Emma is a woman who lives and breathes sport.
And in 2019, Emma opened up about her personal life when she shared with the world the fact that she's transgender.
This episode is all about Emma’s journey – how she got into sports journalism; the tips she’d recommend to upcoming journalists; and some of the stories that have stuck with her.
We also talk about her experiences of discovering her own identity and about coming out as trans, both professionally and personally.
It’s a really powerful episode with Emma, and we’re really glad she took the time to join us today.
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3/31/2021 • 31 minutes, 33 seconds
The One with Lauren Rowles
Lauren Rowles first burst onto many of our screens in 2016, when she won gold in the rowing at the Paralympics in Rio.
But the journey that led her there – and the story that comes afterwards – really is extraordinary.
This episode is a real gift – and we think that after hearing it, you’ll understand why.
There’s so much in this - where Lauren’s love of sport comes from; her disability and how it led to her enjoying sport in a different way; the journey from wheelchair racing to rowing; becoming Paralympic champion in Rio, and what came next; mental health; accepting her own sexuality; and why being put into boxes of any kind just isn’t her thing.
Oh, and we also talk a little bit about gaming as well!
All in all, it might be one of the most powerful episodes we’ve ever done, and we really hope you’ll like it.
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PHOTO CREDIT: Lauren Rowles
3/24/2021 • 42 minutes, 49 seconds
The One with Rebecca Rowe
Today’s guest is arguably one of the most accomplished multi-sport athletes we’ve ever had on the show, and a woman who is preparing to do something truly extraordinary.
Rebecca Rowe won numerous championships in surf-life saving at the start of her sporting career, where she also swam at a high-level as well.
She then switched to rowing where she represented Great Britain - and after a back-injury put pay to her dreams of going to the Olympics, she took up rugby, where she played for Wales in the Six Nations and the Rugby World Cup.
She did all this while working as a PE teacher before switching to become a firefighter - and it’s in that capacity that she, alongside four other female firefighters, is preparing to trek across Antarctica in November 2023.
That’s 1,900 kilometres, pulling their own support sleds in temperatures as low as -50 degrees, as they look to eradicate gender stereotypes, get people talking about mental health, and break a world record in the process.
We talk about all of that and so much more – and if you didn’t know Rebecca before, we hope this episode helps to change things and get her the recognition she deserves.
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PHOTO CREDIT: Antarctic Fire Angels
3/17/2021 • 27 minutes, 19 seconds
The One with the Liverpool Tritons
Finding a place where you feel welcome is crucial, not just in sport but in life – and that’s something Mike Turner knows all about.
He’s the chair of the Liverpool Tritons inclusive rugby club, as well as a teacher – and before he joined the Tritons, he’d never played rugby before.
In fact, he’d never really done sport before – and this podcast is a perfect illustration of how visibility and diversity can play a crucial role in making a person feel welcome.
We talk all about the history and heritage of the Tritons in this episode, as well as Mike’s own personal experiences – plus the Bingham Cup, life in a pandemic, growing a side, and how sport is about more than what happens on the pitch.
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3/16/2021 • 30 minutes, 3 seconds
The One with Sam Stanley
Sam Stanley is a trailblazer – and has been an inspiration for so many of the people who have joined us on the show over the past few years.
Born into a rugby-mad family, he played for Saracens in the Premiership as well as Bedford and Ealing in the Championship – and represented England at the international level in the sevens form of the game.
And in 2015, he made history as the first professional English male rugby union player to come out as gay.
Since then, so many people have cited Sam’s story as an inspiration when it comes to their own decision to come out – and we’re delighted to finally get him onto show podcast.
There’s loads on the agenda for this one - Sam’s love of rugby; his experience of playing internationally and life after retirement; his coming out story; his life in lockdown and so much more.
It’s a cracking conversation with a top bloke, and we’re delighted to we’ve been able to make this chat happen.
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PHOTO CREDIT: Sam Stanley
3/10/2021 • 33 minutes, 7 seconds
The One with Michaela Breeze
There really aren’t enough words to sum up what Michaela Breeze has accomplished in her sporting career.
A two-time Olympian; a Commonwealth champion with six medals across four different Games; more European medals than you can shake a stick at; and an MBE as well.
Put simply, she is Britain’s most successful female weightlifter of all time – and she’s an absolutely brilliant guest for this episode of the podcast.
There’s loads in this conversation –getting her start in weightlifting; some of her sporting highlights; retirement, and what brought her back to the sport for a second time; her experiences of being LGBTQ+ in sport; and becoming a mum during a pandemic.
We really think you’ll like this conversation, and we can’t thank Michaela enough for taking the time to join us.
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3/3/2021 • 27 minutes, 6 seconds
The One with the Best Bits of LGBT+ History Month on BBC Sport
So, LGBT+ History Month is almost at an end.
And honestly, it’s been amazing to see how many fascinating stories have been shared across so many different parts of the BBC from the world of sport.
So for our final episode of the month, we’ve put together this compilation show with some of the best bits. Basically, it’s an LGBTQ+ sport megamix – featuring conversations from BBC Sport, Football Focus, BBC Local Radio, BBC Network Radio and more.
It barely scratches the surface of what the BBC has done for LGBT+ History Month, and we massively recommend you check out the link below to see some of the other brilliant pieces that we couldn’t squeeze in.
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2/27/2021 • 33 minutes, 9 seconds
The One with James Child
If you know rugby league, you’ll know James Child.
The Super League referee has been taking charge of games at the top-level since 2010, including the 2017 Super League Grand Final.
He’s also been a touch judge at the Challenge Cup Final (in fact, he was the youngest-ever touch judge to do it at the time) as well as at the World Cup Final – and to be honest, there’s not a lot in the sport that the Yorkshireman hasn’t done!
This is a conversation about all of that and more – how James got into refereeing; why his family thought it might be a fad; the dedication it takes; and officiating behind closed doors.
We also talk about life in lockdown – and yes, this is the BBC’s LGBT Sport Podcast, and this is the first time that James has spoken publicly about the fact he’s gay.
To be clear, it’s not a coming out story – as his family, his friends and his colleagues have known James is gay for ages.
But it is the first time he’s chosen to talk about his sexuality – and his is, arguably, the most high-profile man in rugby league to talk about the fact he’s gay.
So, we’re grateful he’s taken the decision to do that with us – and as the chat goes along, you will hear more about why now was the right time for him to do that; why this was the right show for him to do it on; and the difference he thinks it might make.
It’s a top conversation with a great guy – and we really think you’ll enjoy it.
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PHOTO CREDIT: SWPix
2/25/2021 • 40 minutes, 31 seconds
The One with Robert Hayward
I know, I know.Two episodes in one day. What’s going on?!
Well, this is almost an accompanying episode to the one that has just dropped in your feed, looking at how HIV, sport and society have interacted over the years.
One of our guests for that show was Lord Robert Hayward – one of the founding members of the Kings Cross Steelers. For that episode, we mostly spoke about HIV in sport – but there was so much more to the chat that didn’t really fit for the theme of that show.
So, we thought we’d put out a bonus episode of the podcast that’s focused entirely on Robert and his story.
From the founding of the Steelers; the joys of competing at a Bingham Cup; how rugby has become more inclusive and what that’s meant, both to society and to Robert personally - it’s a conversation with a man who is committed to making rugby a sport for absolutely everyone.
So, enjoy!
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2/24/2021 • 20 minutes, 54 seconds
The One on HIV in Sport
“The conversation around living with HIV must be had”.
Those are the words of Wales rugby legend Gareth Thomas, who is one of three top guests joining us for this episode of the podcast, looking at how sport can help to play a role in busting the myths and misconceptions that still exist around living with the virus.
And if Gareth says this conversation is important, then it’s absolutely something we’re going to do on this show.
The episode also features Matthew Hodson from NAM Aidsmap, and Lord Robert Hayward (one of the founding members of the Kings Cross Steelers) – who both share their thoughts on how HIV, sport and society have interacted over the years.
From the huge advancements in treatment to why athletes have a role to play in breaking the stigma that still exists around HIV, this is a conversation that’s been inspired by ‘It’s A Sin’ – and hopefully explains why living with HIV in 2021 is nothing like it was in the 1980s.
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2/24/2021 • 35 minutes, 3 seconds
The One with Sporting Pride
It’s a bonus weekend episode of the podcast – where we’re shining a spotlight on another grassroots group making a real difference in the world of sport.
Karina Murray is from Sporting Pride – a volunteer-run community organisation working towards the goal of making Ireland’s sporting community the most inclusive in the world.
And honestly, she’s a fantastic advocate for the work that the group is doing.
There’s lots on the agenda in this one - how the organisation came about; how it drew inspiration and support from other groups; the role that the Gay Games played in helping it come about; the difference Sporting Pride is making; and Karina’s own sporting experiences.
And as if that wasn’t enough, we’re also looking ahead to a special event they’ve got planned with Katie McCabe – the Arsenal footballer and Republic of Ireland captain – on Tuesday 23rd February at 7pm.
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2/20/2021 • 24 minutes, 43 seconds
The One with the Sydney Convicts
It’s time for a special bonus episode of the podcast – think of this as a director’s cut!
Basically, we published our special episode looking at the history of the Bingham Cup, featuring the thoughts of loads of brilliant guests from right around the world.
One of the guests was Tom Crotty from the Sydney Convicts (the reigning Bingham Cup champions) – and his story was so fascinating that we wanted to bring it to you in full, and shine a bit of a spotlight on the Convicts as well.
So this is Tom’s story – of how he came back to rugby; of the difference that rugby has made in his life; of his experience of the first Bingham Cup and the importance of allies; and why he’s glad he came back to the game.
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2/18/2021 • 25 minutes, 22 seconds
The One on the Bingham Cup
It’s the largest amateur rugby tournament in the world, and it’s named after a hero of 9/11.
And for this episode of the BBC’s LGBT Sport Podcast, we’re looking at the remarkable story of the Bingham Cup.
It’s another documentary-style show, as we look at the lives of Mark Bingham and Alice Hoagland; the growth of the tournament itself; and how the rise of the Cup is inextricably linked with the growth of inclusive rugby.
It’s a poignant listen about a brilliant event, and we think it’ll stick with you for a long time.
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PHOTO CREDIT: International Gay Rugby/ Candy Hoagland
2/17/2021 • 22 minutes, 32 seconds
The One on the Harlequins Pride Game
It’s been exactly one year since Harlequins played London Irish at the Stoop in the Premiership in professional rugby union’s first-ever Pride Game.
The event also included a panel featuring LGBTQ+ people in rugby, and was a real celebration of inclusivity and diversity in the sport.
So, one year on, we thought we’d speak to the driving force behind the whole day about how it all came about.
James Swanson is Harlequins’ Customer Experience manager, and is a brilliant guest that takes us behind-the-scenes to learn more about how the Pride Game came together.
There’s also plenty of chat about the potential for a second Pride Game later this year; how Harlequins are breaking new ground with rugby union’s first-ever LGBTQ+ supporters club; and how allies, inside and outside the club, helped to make the day such a success.
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PHOTO CREDIT: Harlequins
2/15/2021 • 29 minutes, 36 seconds
The One with Jack Murley
It’s the 150th episode of the BBC’s LGBT Sport Podcast – and to mark the occasion, we’re switching things up a bit!
Instead of asking the questions, Jack is the one answering them – as he jumps into the hot-seat for the first time to talk in-depth about his experiences of being an LGBTQ+ person in sport.
The man asking the questions is award-winning sports broadcaster Ross Ellis, and there’s no topic that’s off-limits for this conversation.
From getting his start in sports broadcasting to starting the podcast; from his own coming out story to dealing with social media abuse; from the art of a good commentary to what’s next for the show – it’s all covered in this conversation.
After 149 episodes of asking the questions, it was about time this happened - and we hope you enjoy what you hear.
And honestly, thank you so much for the support you’ve shown in getting the show to this point – we couldn’t have done it without you.
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2/10/2021 • 52 minutes, 5 seconds
The One on the History of the Gay Games
It’s LGBT+ History Month – and that means some of our podcasts are going to take on a slightly different flavour in February.
Instead of having just a single guest, we’re going to be putting out episodes that look at major sporting milestones, moments and themes for the LGBTQ+ community in sport.
And today, we’re focusing on the remarkable story of the Gay Games – and how one doctor’s dream of an inclusive sporting event based on the model of the Olympics became a reality bigger than he could ever have dreamed of.
From San Francisco to Hong Kong and everything in between, we’ll be looking at the Games’ growth; their importance; the memories of people who have taken part; and what the future holds for them.
It’s a cracking episode, looking at an event which, in its own way, has helped to change the sporting world.
And once you’ve listened to this, why not check out all of BBC Sport’s platforms to see some of the other amazing content that’s being put out for LGBT+ History Month.
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@GayGames
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PHOTO CREDIT: Getty Images
2/3/2021 • 27 minutes, 30 seconds
The One with Erin Walters-Williams
Today, we’re hearing from someone who has been to more tournaments than you can shake a stick at - perhaps literally, in this case!
Lacrosse player Erin Walters-Williams (she/ her) is originally from Long Island, New York, but now lives in the UK.
A double European silver-medallist who has represented Wales at two World Cups, she’s also heavily involved with the administration, growth and diversity of the game – as part of both European Lacrosse and World Lacrosse as well.
And Erin’s story is a brilliant one to tell – open, honest and genuine.
From growing up in a community where sport took centre-stage, to the pressures of collegiate sport in the USA; from bouncing back from injury, to the reality of coming out, to realising her dreams in the sport … it’s a great conversation with someone we’ve wanted to have on the show for a while!
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@Erinium
@EuropeanLacrosse
@worldlaxsport
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PHOTO CREDIT: PAUL MARVIN
1/27/2021 • 27 minutes, 41 seconds
The One with Martin Stark
We’ve got a cracking episode of the podcast today where our main focus is on boxing – and a man who is determined to make his mark in more ways than one.
Martin Stark is the brains and driving force behind the first-ever World Gay Boxing Championships, which are set to be held in Sydney, Australia in 2023.
Some fight nights and test events are coming up in the not-too-distant future – and on the show today, we’re hearing all about how Martin has made the Championships happen.
It’s a journey that has had more than its fair share of challenges – from living with illness and overcoming near-death experiences; to taking a risk and trying something new; to driving through change and trying to create something from nothing.
But one thing that comes through clearly is Martin’s passion for the sport; for building inclusion; and making a lasting impression with these championships.
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1/20/2021 • 30 minutes, 6 seconds
The One with Dave Bradshaw
If you are a professional wrestling fan, you will know Dave Bradshaw’s work.
He’s one of Britain’s top play-by-play commentators and has called some of the UK's biggest independent wrestling events over the past few years – as well as matches with the likes of Kenny Omega, Sami Zayn, Kurt Angle, Cody Rhodes and more.
For this month’s Wrestletalk magazine, Dave has written an article looking at pro wrestling’s relationship with, and portrayal of, the LGBTQ+ community.
And, for the first time, Dave has chosen to open up about his own sexuality – both in the article which is out today, and in this conversation with us.
We’re chuffed to bits he’s chosen to speak with us, and there’s loads to like in this episode.
Getting his break in the industry; the science of calling matches; working alongside your icons; his decision to open up about being gay; what made him hesitant to do it before, and why now is the right time; and the impact he hopes both the article and this conversation will have … honestly, we could go on and on.
We love this episode - because it's an honest, genuine chat with a really decent bloke who has chosen to share his story in the hope of showing that the professional wrestling business has a place for you, no matter how you identify or who you love.
And really, you can't say fairer than that!
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1/15/2021 • 34 minutes, 14 seconds
The One on Copenhagen 2021
This August, Copenhagen and Malmo will host one of the year’s most significant LGBTQ+ events in the form of Copenhagen 2021.
It’s a celebration of arts, culture, LGBTQ+ history and sport – with both World Pride and EuroGames a key part of the event.
And to mark the countdown to the extravaganza, we’re joined by two of the people who are helping to make it happen.
Katja Moesgaard is the chair of Copenhagen 2021, and Christian Bigom is the chair of ‘Pan Idræt’ – Copenhagen’s largest inclusive sports organisation.
This is a great conversation that squeezes a lot of things into it – from Katja’s work with the Danish FA to Christian’s passion for inclusivity; as well as the planning that’s gone into EuroGames; how they plan to adapt it as necessary in response to COVID; how you can get involved; and what it means for Scandinavia to host such a prestigious event.
It’s a lovely chat with two great representatives of inclusive sport in Europe, and it’s great to shine a light on what should be a top event this summer.
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PHOTO CREDIT: Copenhagen 2021/ Pan Idraet
1/13/2021 • 18 minutes, 43 seconds
The One with Sam Taylor and Sue Taylor-Franklin
We’re kicking off 2021 in style on the podcast with two top guests who just happen to be Britain’s strongest couple.
Sam Taylor and Sue-Taylor Franklin made a bit of history in 2020 when they placed first and second respectively at the Brits Women Masters powerlifting contest.
It was an amazing feat – and almost more impressive is the journey they’ve both been on to reach this stage.
Both have very personal reasons for getting into fitness, strongwomen and powerlifting – and you’ll hear all about it in this conversation.
We also talk body-image and being comfortable with how you look; how sport can help you take control of your life; the pain that social media trolling can cause; what it’s like to compete against your partner; and what 2021 has in store for them both.
Honestly, we could have spent all day talking to Sam and Sue – and it’s a gem of a conversation to kick off a new year on the show.
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1/6/2021 • 33 minutes, 34 seconds
The One with the 2020 Best Bits (Part 2)
2020 is almost at an end - and we're bringing the podcast to a close for the year with the second of two special 'Best Bit' podcasts, looking at some of our most memorable moments.
Part 2 takes us from July-December, and includes:
- Paeton McGuire on completing the 'Tour De Trans'.
- Professional wrestler Cassius.
- English MMA trailblazer Molly McCann.
- British gymnast Luke Strong.
- Top amateur swimming coach Philip Collins MBE.
- Former England and Harlequins star Dr Zoe Saynor.
- Premiership Rugby referees Craig Maxwell-Keys and Christophe Ridley from the first of our 'Allies' episodes.
There's loads in this episode - from embracing your true self to the perfect way for your Nan to react when you come out - and we really think you'll like it.
It's the perfect way to round out 2020, and get ready for a busy 2021 on the podcast - and we can't thank you enough for all the support you've given us in a year like no other!
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12/30/2020 • 40 minutes, 1 second
The One with the 2020 Best Bits (Part 1)
We’re heading towards the end of a year like no other – and to see out 2020, we’re spending the next two weeks on the BBC’s LGBT Sport Podcast looking back at some of the most memorable guests we’ve had on this year.
Part 1 takes us from January-June, and includes:
- Top swimming coaches Emma Collings-Barnes and Greg King-Limb.
- American golfer Tadd Fujikawa.
- Paralympic wheelchair basketball stars Laurie Williams and Robyn Love.
- Football commentator Mike Minay.
- England rugby league captain Emily Rudge.
- Hall of Fame triathlete and All-American duathlete Chris Mosier.
It was great to have a listen back to some of these best bits, featuring everything from surprise proposals to why rewatching ‘Queer as Folk’ is never a bad thing!
We think you’ll like this trip down memory lane, and don’t forget to check back in with us next week where our final episode of 2020 will have some of our top moments from the second half of the year.
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12/23/2020 • 40 minutes, 13 seconds
The One with LGBTQ+ in Sport
They often say that the most important changes in life are driven from the ground up, and the three guests we have for the podcast this week are certainly doing their bit to try and make a difference.
Ed Kandel, Gurdas Singh and Katrina Kelly are all part of LGBTQ+ In Sport – a social enterprise looking to tackle discrimination, build diversity and create a sense of community in sport.
And unlike lots of the organisations and groups we have on this podcast, which tend to be well established, this one is fairly new – so it’s a chance to get in at the ground level with three people who are really passionate about what they do.
There’s lots in this chat - Ed and Gurdas’ experiences of being LGBTQ+ in sport, as well as Katrina’s of being an ally; how it all came about, their goals for the future; how they’ve all dealt with the pandemic … and we think you’re really going to like it.
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12/16/2020 • 30 minutes, 14 seconds
The One with Lewis Ward and Alan Quick
It’s time for another of our special episodes, looking at the importance of being an ally in sport – and with the Rainbow Laces campaign in full swing, we couldn’t have picked two better guests.
Lewis Ward plays for Exeter City, who are currently fifth in League 2 and preparing for their Rainbow Laces match with Tranmere Rovers on Saturday. Lewis is straight – and joined us alongside Alan Quick from the Proud Grecians for another terrific conversation on the topic of allyship in sport.
It’s so rare that you get to speak in-depth with a professional footballer about their take on some of the things we talk about regularly on the podcast –players coming out, what the Rainbow Laces campaign means to Lewis personally, the importance of education, and how everyone has a part to play in making sport for all.
We also hear from Alan about what it means to see allies like Lewis stepping up to be involved, his friendship with Justin Fashanu, the evolution of things like the Rainbow Laces campaign, and what it’s been like to be a fan in the pandemic.
This is an honest and frank conversation between two great guests, and we really think you’ll enjoy it.
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PHOTO CREDITS: Exeter City Football Club
12/11/2020 • 30 minutes, 17 seconds
The One with Caron Morton and Peter Heather
Golf is one of those sports that manages to get under your skin - where the joy of one perfect shot tempers the frustration of a hundred bad ones that disappear into the trees, never to be seen again.
Two people who know all about it are Caron Morton from the Girls in Golf Society and Peter Heather from the Irons Golf Society – two top inclusive clubs here in the UK.
They’ve both joined us for a terrific episode, looking at all sorts of different things – from how it was to go without golf in lockdown, to the importance of feeling comfortable and welcomed within the sport. We also look at how each group would like to expand their membership, why role-models are important, and what it is that keeps them coming back to the course, week in and week out.
And as if that weren’t enough to tempt you to listen, we also hear about the remarkable number of holes-in-one that one of our guests has had … and there’s also a special appearance by some dogs as well!
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@ironsgolf
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12/9/2020 • 32 minutes, 49 seconds
The One with Lou Englefield and Piara Powar
You may not know their names - but between them, Lou Englefield and Piara Powar have spent years fighting to make football a place where everyone is welcome.
Lou is the Campaign Director for Football v Homophobia, Director of Pride Sports, co-chair of Pride House International – in fact, there aren’t many hats she doesn’t wear! – while Piara is the Executive Director of the Fare network, which campaigns against discrimination and to promote social inclusion via football in more than forty countries.
And as a pair, they’re two terrific guests for the latest in our special set of episodes, looking at what it means to be an ally in sport.
We touch on lots of themes in this podcast – the concept of being an ally; the importance of feeling safe asking questions; how allyship can work both ways; and what can cause people to want to step up as an ally.
We couldn’t have hoped for a better pairing to continue this mini-series of episodes looking at allyship, and we’re really grateful that Lou and Piara both took the time to join us for it.
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@FvHtweets
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12/3/2020 • 25 minutes, 56 seconds
The One with Andrea Murray and Gemma Hunter
When we talk about sport, we tend to focus on the players and coaches who grab the headlines each week.
But behind-the-scenes, there are lots of dedicated people who often don't end up in the limelight – and today on the podcast, we’re shining the spotlight on two of them.
Andrea Murray works for the Rugby Football League to promote the sport in schools across the UK, and her wife Gemma Hunter is part of the set-up with England Golf, where she's Head of Handicapping and Course Rating.
They’re married, and are a pair of terrific guests to join us on the podcast with some brilliant stories to tell - from their love of sport to their respective jobs to their own coming out stories. We also talk about adapting to work in the pandemic, times when they’ve had to conceal their sexuality, the RFL’s ‘Tackle It’ campaign and lots, lots more!
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@TheRFL
@EnglandGolf
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12/2/2020 • 31 minutes, 4 seconds
The One with Craig Maxwell-Keys and Christophe Ridley
For more than two years, we've been shining a spotlight on the stories of people in sport who just so happen to be LGBTQ+.
But for the next few weeks, we’re going to be changing up our format with some special additional episodes, looking at what it means to be an ally and how everyone can play a role in making sport inclusive for all.
The idea is simple – we’ll take two people from the world of sport, one who is LGBTQ+ and one who is a straight ally, and simply have a chat with them both about their experiences.
We’ll hear how our straight guest offers support to the LGBTQ+ community and, in some cases, challenged their own perceptions along the way, and discuss what sort of difference their role as an ally made to our LGBTQ+ guest as well.
And, as always, the conversations will (hopefully!) offer some fascinating sporting stories too.
To kick us off, we’ve got two fantastic guests, as Premiership Rugby referees Craig Maxwell-Keys and Christophe Ridley join the podcast for the first of our special episodes looking at what it means to be an ally. Craig is gay, and shared his story on this podcast almost exactly a year ago, and Christophe is straight.
And honestly, we couldn’t wish for two better people to kick this special set of episodes off, as there’s loads on the agenda for this chat – how the pair got to know each other; this year’s Rainbow Laces campaign and what it means to each man; what being an ally means to Christophe; how Christophe supported Craig after his appearance on this podcast; refereeing in empty stadiums and, in Craig’s case, taking charge of the Premiership final just a few weeks ago; and how each man has passed the time in lockdown.
We think it’s a fascinating conversation - open, honest and genuine – and we’re really grateful both men took the time to join us for it.
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11/26/2020 • 23 minutes, 17 seconds
The One with Jenny Duncalf
Jenny Duncalf is one of the biggest names in squash, and someone who spent more than fifteen years at the very top of the sport.
A former World Number 2 with more than 100 England caps, she competed at four separate Commonwealth Games where she picked up three silver medals to add to her multiple European championships.
She’s also an all-round lovely individual, and someone we’ve wanted to have on for a while – and we’re delighted we’ve finally managed to make it happen by linking up with Jenny in Australia.
There’s lots of great stuff in this conversation – how Jenny got her start in the sport; her memories of her first England call-up; some of her favourite moments, including her experiences of multiple Commonwealth Games; finding love on the tour and her coming out story; and what life is like now after retiring from the sport.
We’re really grateful Jenny took the time to chat with us for this episode, and we think you’ll like her as much as we do. It's a cracker!
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11/25/2020 • 28 minutes, 16 seconds
The One with Molly McCann
When it comes to MMA, Molly McCann is something of a trail-blazer.
She won the Cage Warriors World Flyweight Championship back in February, 2018, before signing for the UFC and becoming the first Englishwoman to ever win inside the Octagon.
She, like all elite athletes, is having to adapt to the new normal, and is currently preparing for her next fight for the UFC in February of next year. So we’re delighted she’s chosen to spend some time with us, and given us one of the most open, candid and honest conversation we’ve ever done.
There’s a lot in this conversation – mental health, finding your own identity, overcoming adversity, discovering your internal drive to be the best, using your platform to spread social change, educating yourself about issues you care about – but most importantly, it’s a genuine conversation with someone who has chosen to share her story with us.
Doing this episode was a privilege, and we really hope you come away from it feeling the same way we did as well – because we think it’s something special.
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11/18/2020 • 33 minutes, 7 seconds
The One on the 2022 Gay Games in Hong Kong
From the Olympics to Euro 2020, coronavirus has disrupted major sporting events around the world.
And if we're honest, no-one knows whether things will end up being much different next year.
So it's no exaggeration to say the Gay Games in Hong Kong in 2022 could end up being one of the first multi-sport, multi-national events when things are 'back to normal'.
The two-year countdown to the Games starts this week, and we’re delighted to have two of the team on the podcast to tell us all about it.
Jackie Vierow is the event’s Director of Sports, and Charlz Ng is the Director of the Festival Village, and they’re both brilliant advocates for Gay Games 11 in Hong Kong.
There’s loads on the agenda in this conversation, from how Jackie and Charlz first got involved with the Gay Games; the importance of their respective roles; the impact the Games are already having in Hong Kong; what it means to them to see the wider community getting behind the Games; how they capture the character of the place; and how more people can get involved in making the event happen.
It’s great that we can mark the countdown to such a significant event, and we’re grateful Jackie and Charlz took the time to join us.
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Twitter: @GayGamesHK2022 OR @GayGames
Website: gaygames.org
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11/11/2020 • 24 minutes, 25 seconds
The One with Philip Collins
Philip Collins has dedicated his life to swimming - and it's not gone unnoticed.
He was recognised in the Queen's Honours List with an MBE last month, and when you hear him talk, you can almost *feel* the passion Philip has for the sport.
This is a great conversation with someone who is a bit of a grassroots hero when it comes to sport, which ends up becoming as much about social history as it is about swimming.
From Philip’s time in the Royal Navy when it was illegal for gay men to serve to his work supporting gay men in London during the AIDs/ HIV epidemic; his love of Out To Swim, the Gay Games and encouraging inclusivity in sport; getting in the water in lockdown and finding out about the MBE – yes, there’s an awful lot of fascinating stuff in this chat, and we’re grateful that Philip took the time to join us.
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@OutToSwim
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11/4/2020 • 27 minutes, 50 seconds
The One with Sam Schofield
Sam Schofield is someone who lives and breathes cricket.
He plays for his local team; he’s head of cricket at Trinity School in Croydon; and he’s part of the coaching set up for the England Physical Disability side as well.
He’s also a cracking guest, and we’re delighted to have him joining us for this week’s episode of the BBC’s LGBT Sport Podcast.
There’s loads to get into in this one; where Sam’s love of cricket came from (including the unfortunate breaking of a window with a shot at school!); his work with the England PD side and his pride in wearing the Three Lions; coming out at a Test match; the importance of LGBT visibility, in sport and in schools; and plenty of other good stuff as well.
We really think you’ll like this episode – which, by the way, is the first ‘at home’ recording as a result of coronavirus restrictions! - and we're massively grateful that Sam took the time to join us for it.
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@EnglandCricket
@TrinityCroydon
@LondonTitans
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10/28/2020 • 26 minutes, 14 seconds
The One with Ian 'Downsy' Downs
Whether you’re a football fanatic or a rugby nut, you’re going to know the work – and the voice! – of Ian ‘Downsy’ Downs.
Ian is the matchday announcer for Bristol City Football Club in the Championship, and hosts all sorts of matchday content across Bristol Bears’ social media channels in the RFU Premiership as well.
He’s also someone we’ve wanted to have on the podcast for a long time, and we’re glad we’ve finally got round to asking him, as this episode really delivers!
There’s loads of good stuff that we get into here – Ian’s love of sport; why the pandemic has made social media more important than ever before in terms of getting fans close to the action; some of his most memorable moments with both Bristol Bears and Bristol City; why his sexuality has never impacted on his ability to be involved in sport; and the importance of visibility.
Oh, and we also end up talking about how you explain what a ‘bear’ is to some of the world’s top rugby players!
We think this week’s chat is a cracker, and we really think you’ll like Downsy as much as we do.
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Ian: @downsyofficial
Bristol City FC: @BristolCity
Bristol Bears: @BristolBears
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10/21/2020 • 27 minutes, 10 seconds
The One with Nasser Tell
Are you one of those people who enjoys getting out on your bike for a good ride around where you live?
If you are, it’s really not surprising. After all, it gets you outdoors, keeps you healthy, and gives you a chance to meet new people as well.
CycleOut London has been providing those sort of opportunities to LGBTQ+ people in the capital for more than two decades – and this year, it’s celebrating its 25th birthday.
So it only seemed appropriate to have chairman Nasser Tell on this week’s episode to talk about everything that makes the club special.
From how he got involved in cycling to the growth of the club; the importance of being your authentic self in sport to the club’s decision to become more active in the wider LGBTQ+ community; the trips abroad, the impact of lockdown, and why liking a few pints is par for the course for some members … yes, there’s a lot to enjoy in this episode!
We always love shining a spotlight on grassroots inclusive clubs, and we hope you like Nasser as much as we do.
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CycleOut London on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CycleOut.London
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10/14/2020 • 21 minutes, 40 seconds
The One for National Coming Out Day
It's National Coming Out Day - and we thought it was only appropriate to share some of our most memorable coming out stories from the past two years of the BBC's LGBT Sport Podcast.
So in the course of this special compilation episode, you'll hear from:
- MMA star Liz Carmouche
- Former rugby league star Keegan Hirst
- Ice hockey player Zach Sullivan
- Paralympian and wheelchair basketball star Jude Hamer
- Former AFC Bournemouth club photographer Sophie Cook
- BBC Sport presenter Clare Balding
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READ MORE ABOUT THIS SPECIAL EPISODE HERE:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/54457018
10/11/2020 • 29 minutes, 52 seconds
The One with Laura Lee
Trophies, trips and memories that last a lifetime - there's really nothing quite like a career in sport.
But how hard is it to adapt when all of that comes to an end?
Laura Lee is a former Arsenal and Leyton Orient footballer who now works for World After Sport - an organisation that helps prepare elite sportspeople for whatever comes next in their career.
She’s our guest on this week’s cracking episode of the podcast, and there’s loads that we get into in this conversation.
From how Gary Lineker and Paul Gascoigne helped inspire her love of football, to the growth of the women’s game; her work combating discrimination in the sport to some of the injustices she’s had to face; the difference being made by World After Sport to her favourite footballing memories – yeah, there’s a lot in this episode.
We really loved hearing more about Laura’s story – and we think you’ll really like her as well!
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Laura: @Dodgems81
World After Sport: @Worldaftersport
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10/7/2020 • 25 minutes, 4 seconds
The One with Josh Rudd
They say that behind every great athlete, there's a great team - and in the world of British swimming, that includes Josh Rudd.
He's a performance lifestyle adviser with British Swimming and the English Institute of Sport, helping some of Team GB's top swimming medal hopes get ready for the Tokyo Olympics and beyond.
He’s also the brains behind Pride in Water – a new network supporting LGBTQ+ people across swimming, water polo, diving, synchro and aquatics in general.
This is a cracking conversation about a whole load of different things – from Josh’s love of sport; his time refereeing football matches at a semi-pro level; the actual work of a performance lifestyle adviser and the difference it makes; the founding of Pride in Water and the difference it’s already making … and for some reason, at the end, a mini-review of Sex and the City!
Like we say, it’s a wide-ranging chat with a great guest – and we really think you’re going to like it.
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Josh: @JoshRudd
Pride in Water: @prideinwater / https://www.britishswimming.org/members-resources/prideinwater/
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9/30/2020 • 35 minutes, 31 seconds
The Second Anniversary Episode
On September 25th 2018, we published our first-ever episode of the BBC's LGBT Sport Podcast.
We thought that, at best, we'd last for a couple of months - and that if we reached fifty episodes, we'd have done well for ourselves.
So you can probably imagine how chuffed we are to be celebrating two years of the podcast, and of telling the stories of LGBTQ+ people from across the world of sport.
It's been quite a ride - 133 guests across 125 weekly episodes, encompassing everyone from Olympic gold medalists to grassroots supporters clubs - and on this episode, we thought we'd look back at some of the most memorable moments of the past twelve months.
This episode is a compilation of great guests you may have missed that we think show what we do best - so hopefully, you'll enjoy what you hear.
And as we say every week, we wouldn't have accomplished any of this if it hadn't been for your constant support, and we can't thank you enough for it.
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9/23/2020 • 42 minutes, 3 seconds
The One with Shelley Holroyd
She spent nearly two decades as one of Britain's top field athletes, competing at multiple World, Commonwealth and European championships - as well as the 1996 Olympics in Atlanta.
After she put down her javelin, Shelley Holroyd turned her attention to helping young athletes and para-athletes achieve their full potential as a coach – and now, she's part of the team behind the Athletics Pride Network, which supports gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people in the sport.
She’s a cracking guest to have on the podcast this week – and we talked about an awful lot in this episode.
From the unusual way she got her start in athletics to the dramatic incident that almost ended her career for good; her experiences as an LGBTQ+ person in athletics, including some of the discrimination she faced along the way; the difference that the Athletics Pride Network would have had when she was competing; and her transition from competing to coaching … yeah, there’s an awful lot to enjoy here.
We’re so lucky to have had such a brilliant guest like Shelley, and we think you’ll like her as much as we did.
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@AthleticsPride1
@BritAthletics
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9/16/2020 • 30 minutes, 59 seconds
The One with Cassius
Professional wrestling is a unique form of entertainment - and to succeed in it, you need a unique set of skills.
Charisma, athleticism and - you would think - a certain macho toughness. But for UK star Cassius, wrestling was actually the place where he learned to embrace his inner femininity, and accept who he really is.
And now, he's using those traits to make an impact, inside and outside the ring – and over the course of this conversation, you’ll hear about how he’s making that happen, and inspiring other LGBTQ+ people in the process.
This chat has everything – how Cassius got his love of pro wrestling; the development of his in-ring skills and persona; how wrestling helped him become his authentic self and the growing number of out LGBTQ+ stars making a name for themselves in the industry; and his most memorable moment inside the ring.
Even if you’re not a wrestling fan, you’re going to love this conversation with an absolute fascinating young man, and we hope you give it a listen.
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@NeonCassius
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9/9/2020 • 27 minutes, 23 seconds
The One with Matt Bishop
For many people, Formula 1 offers the ultimate glamorous lifestyle.
Fast cars, exotic places, exciting races - what's not to love?!
For many years, Matt Bishop was right at the heart of the sport - first as a journalist reporting on the action, then as the PR chief for the McLaren team - and he was at one point, in his own words, 'the only gay in the F1 village'.
Matt's now the communications director for the innovative W Series, and has just published his first novel (‘The Boy Made The Difference’) set in the time of the HIV/AIDS crisis in London in the late 1980s/early 1990s.
He’s an amazing guest on the podcast this week, and we really enjoyed our conversation. It focuses on all sorts of topics – where Matt’s love of motorsport came from; his time as a journalist in the glamorous world of F1; the inspiration behind ‘The Boy Made The Difference’ and the drive that made Matt write it; and his experiences as an LGBTQ+ person in motorsports in general.
It’s a powerful episode, this one, which we think will make you smile, think and laugh – and we’re really grateful Matt took the time to join us.
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@TheBishF1
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9/2/2020 • 31 minutes, 38 seconds
The One on the Union Cup
From the Olympics to the European Championships, 2021 is shaping up to be a huge year for sport.
And in Birmingham, fans are counting down until the end of April when the city will host the Union Cup - Europe's largest inclusive rugby tournament.
Teams from across the continent will take part in the event, so it seemed appropriate to make this episode about two of the people who have helped to make it happen.
Alistair Burford is the tournament director, and David Cumpston - or Fifi, as he's also known - is the chairman of the Birmingham Bulls - the club that will be hosting the tournament.
This is a cracking conversation about all sorts of different things – from the founding of the Bulls to the attitude of the sides they play; the importance of inclusivity in rugby, and sport as a space where people can be themselves; the process behind bidding for the Union Cup and how COVID-19 may impact on things; and how folks in the Birmingham area can get involved in making it a success.
Oh, and Eurovision also comes up, for reasons we still don't quite understand!
David and Alistair are two brilliant guests, and we really think you’re going to like hearing from them.
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@unioncuprugby
@BrumBullsRFC
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8/26/2020 • 37 minutes, 43 seconds
The One with Emma Wiggs
Emma Wiggs is one of those truly extraordinary athletes that come along very rarely in life.
The para-canoeist is a five-time European champion, a seven-time World Champion and the reigning Paralympic champion after taking gold in Rio four years ago. She's been made an MBE for her services to the sport - and as if that wasn't impressive enough, she also represented Para GB in the sitting volleyball at London 2012.
Emma wasn't born with a disability, and only began para-sports after being struck by a mystery virus while on a gap year in Australia.
She's a fantastic guest who we could have spent forever chatting with. But in the time we had together, we managed to squeeze in so much - from Emma's love of sport to adapting to life with a disability; what pushed her to become a Paralympian and then change discipline; her successes in paracanoe and the postponement of the Tokyo Paralympics ... honestly, the list goes on and on.
We really, really think you'll like this episode - as we certainly loved chatting with Emma.
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@emwiggsy
emmawiggs.com
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8/19/2020 • 26 minutes, 16 seconds
The One with Zoe Saynor
You probably wouldn’t expect a former England rugby player to be leading research into the physical and mental impact of coronavirus in the UK.
But then again, Zoe Saynor’s career has never really been done by the book.
The Harlequins player announced her retirement this weekend, so what better time to sit down with an absolutely brilliant guest to talk about her life, on and off the pitch?
Zoe is a fantastic guest, talking about getting her start in the game (which came relatively late compared to others); who helped to develop and nurture her as a player; her memories of her England call-up; her research during lockdown, and balancing her academic and sporting careers (including the pressure of achieving her PhD); her experiences of being a gay woman in rugby; and helping to break down stereotypes in the game.
We feel really lucky to have had the chance to sit down with Zoe and look back at her amazing career, and we hope you like this episode as much as we do.
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@Zoe_Saynor
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PHOTO CREDIT: Harlequins
8/12/2020 • 27 minutes, 42 seconds
The One on the Tour De Trans
There've been plenty of bike-rides from Lands End to John O'Groats, but this one is truly unique.
Paeton McGuire and their son Callum are preparing to cycle the 1000 kilometre route later this month in what's being billed as the 'Tour De Trans' - an event designed to raise awareness of the issues facing transgender people across the UK.
It’s one heck of a journey – and ‘journey’ is probably the best word to describe what Paeton has been going through over the past few weeks, months and years.
In this extraordinary episode, you’ll hear Paeton talk about their love of cycling; how they qualified as a British Cycling coach; their struggle to come to terms with their own identity; the realisation and acceptance that they were non-binary just as lockdown began to hit; the inspiration behind the Tour De Trans; and what they hope it’ll achieve.
This isn’t always an easy listen as Paeton describes what they’ve been through, but the message that comes through at the end is one of hope, love and acceptance. We really hope you enjoy it.
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@TourDeTrans
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8/5/2020 • 30 minutes, 12 seconds
The One with Natalie Washington
Natalie Washington can still remember how it felt to score her first goal back on the pitch after around two years away from the beautiful game.
It was a special moment for her - not least because the last time Natalie was playing, it was in the men's leagues.
She's a fascinating guest on the podcast this week, as she shares her story of what it's like to be a trans-woman in football and so much more besides.
There’s loads to chat about – from where Natalie’s love of sport came from; her transition and what inspired her to come back to the beautiful game; her views on the portrayal of the trans community in sport; and what pivotal event rekindled her love of football.
We’re really grateful to Natalie for taking the time to chat in such an honest and open manner - so we hope you give this episode a listen.
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Natalie: @Transsomething
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7/29/2020 • 21 minutes, 51 seconds
The One on Football Pride
Saturday 25th July is shaping up to be a big day on the footballing calendar.
Players, coaches, supporters groups and fans are coming together for Football Pride - an online event celebrating inclusive football culture.
The day of events includes everything from coaching and player panels to an online FIFA tournament, and Samuel Timms is one of the people who has helped to make it happen.
He's joining us for this special bonus episode of the podcast looking ahead to this Saturday's event, from how it came about (it involves Zoom calls and G and Ts!) and what he and the other organisers hope it'll achieve.
We also look at Samuel's love of football; how he and partner Gary Ginnaw founded Charlton Invicta; starting the Villa and Proud supporters group - there's bucketloads of good stuff in this episode that we think you'll really like.
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Football Pride: @FootballPrideUK
Football v Homophobia:@FvHtweets
Pride Sports:@PrideSports
Samuel Timms:@SamuelTimms3
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7/23/2020 • 28 minutes, 1 second
The One with Sue Day
You could call Sue Day a trailblazer - but honestly, that'd hardly do her justice.
The rugby player captained England in both the fifteens and sevens form of the game, winning three Grand Slams and playing in three separate World Cups in the process.
Away from the pitch, she's been just as impressive - becoming the first female president of Wasps, and in her current role as the Chief Financial Officer of the RFU, is one of the most senior people in the governance of the English game.
She’s a brilliant guest and there’s so much to enjoy in this conversation – from the unusual way Sue got her start in rugby; the highs of her international career; the evolution of women’s sport (in terms of funding and support); her experiences of being LGBTQ+ in rugby and what the game does right; and how she manages to switch off away from rugby.
Sue is fantastic – and we really think you’ll like this episode.
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Twitter: @SueDay13
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PHOTO CREDIT: The RFU
7/22/2020 • 23 minutes
The One with Luke Strong
He's a world and European medallist who has also claimed the British title on five separate occasions.
In fact, it's no exaggeration to say Luke Strong is one of Britain's top trampoline gymnasts - which is even more remarkable when you consider that he once suffered a leg injury so severe that he almost had to have it amputated.
Luke really does have an extraordinary story, and we're over the moon to have him with us as a guest on the podcast this week. There's bucketloads of stuff to enjoy in this episode - from how he got his start in the sport to bouncing back from injury; from claiming an historic bronze medal at the European Championships to helping the sport gain a bigger profile; and what impact, if any, his sexuality has had on his progress in the sport.
We really, really think you'll like this conversation - and we're massively grateful Luke took the time to join us.
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Twitter: @Luke_strong2
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***PHOTO CREDIT: Team GB***
7/15/2020 • 26 minutes, 16 seconds
The One with Chloe Morgan
She was a key part of the Tottenham Hotspur Women's side for the past five years, helping them rise through the ranks and into the Women's Super League.
And as if that weren't enough, Chloe Morgan is also a qualified lawyer who takes a huge amount of pride in speaking out about her experiences as an out gay player in the beautiful game.
In fact, Chloe is adamant that players should always speak up, even if it’s difficult, if they can use their platform to help make positive change happen – and that’s exactly what she’s done on this episode.
There’s so much on the agenda, from balancing a footballing and legal career to the development of the women’s game through the years, to why Chloe feels it’s so important for athletes to use their voice when they can.
We can’t say enough good things about Chloe and this episode, and we really think you’re doing to love it.
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Twitter: @Morgie_89
PHOTO CREDIT: Tongue Tied Management
7/8/2020 • 23 minutes, 39 seconds
The One with Nikki Symmons
When it comes to contributions to Irish hockey, few have done more than Nikki Symmons.
She made more than 200 appearances over a career that spanned twelve years - competing in three Olympic qualifying campaigns as well as half-a-dozen Nations Championships.
In 2015, she went into the European Hall of Fame - and as if Nikki's hockey career wasn't impressive enough, she's also represented Ireland internationally in cricket as well.
She’s an absolutely brilliant talker and we love this episode, because there’s so much in it to get our teeth into with a really incredible guest!
From getting her start in sport to some of the highs and lows of her international career; the things she accomplished in sport to what she didn’t quite manage to achieve; to her coming out experiences and the campaign for marriage equality in Ireland … there’s an awful lot to get into in this podcast.
In this episode, we had an absolute ball, and that’s thanks to how brilliant Nikki is – and we think you’ll love her just as much as we do.
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@NikSymmons
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7/1/2020 • 30 minutes, 43 seconds
The One on Jamie Johnson
It's one of the most popular programmes on CBBC - the BBC's dedicated channel for kids aged anywhere between 6 and 16.
Jamie Johnson focuses on life for a group of young players hoping to make it into the competitive world of pro-football - and this week, it's been making more waves than usual after one of the main characters came out as gay. It's something that's been tackled before on-screen in grown-up films like The Pass and Mario, but it's the first time a children's television drama has taken a look at a subject like this.
And on the podcast this week, we've got two of the key people that helped bring this storyline to life.
Patrick Ward plays Dillon - the character the storyline focuses on - while Shaun Duggan is the BAFTA-nominated writer of the programme.
They're both brilliant talkers who offer different perspectives on this story. Patrick gives us an actor’s take on receiving the storyline; playing the role convincingly and credibly; and the responsibility he felt to get it right.
And Shaun, for his part, looks at the process of coming up with this journey for Dillon’s character; the importance of visibility on-screen for LGBTQ+ characters; and his experiences as a gay writer in the industry.
They’re both fantastic talkers, and we really think you’ll like this episode!
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6/25/2020 • 24 minutes, 9 seconds
The One with Dr Rachael Bullingham
How good is sport at tackling homophobia when it occurs? Have things improved over the past few years? If so, how, and if they haven’t, why not?
They're big questions - and ones that Dr Rachael Bullingham spends plenty of time looking at in her role as a Senior Lecturer in Sport and Exercise Science at the University of Gloucestershire.
She’s a brilliant guest and someone we’ve wanted to have on the podcast for a little while, bringing us an academic perspective on the topics we usually discuss that we’ve not really had before.
There’s plenty on the agenda, from Rachael’s love of sport to conducting her research to what’s up next for her, and we think you’ll like her as much as we do!
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@bulrac
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6/17/2020 • 24 minutes, 46 seconds
The One with Jude Hamer
Devon's Jude Hamer was meant to be spending 2020 in Tokyo, competing at her third consecutive Paralympic Games as part of Britain's wheelchair basketball team.
Instead, she's still in the UK - training on her own and, amongst other things using her love of sewing to make kit for frontline NHS workers, all as a result of the ongoing coronavirus crisis.
It all means Jude has a little bit of spare time on her hand – and we’re delighted she’s used some of it to have a chat with us for a brand-new episode of the podcast.
There’s so much in this episode –finding a sport you love when you have a disability; why ‘fitting in’ can be overrated; testing the water when it comes to coming out; educating yourself to become a better ally to others; life after sport; and of all things, The Great British Sewing Bee!
We really, really enjoyed this episode – and we think you will as well.
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@hamer_jude
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@jack_murley
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6/10/2020 • 32 minutes, 10 seconds
The One with Tom Bosworth
As an athlete in an Olympic year, Tom Bosworth couldn't have hoped for a better start to 2020.
The race-walker broke his own British record in the 5-thousand metres at the end of February, and then did the same in the 10-thousand metres at the start of March.
It was the perfect preparation for this summer's Games in Tokyo, until coronavirus put plans for that on hold - and threw everything else up in the air.
So what's it like to be an Olympian with no Olympics to prepare for? Tom's been talking to us about that; about what he's been doing during lockdown; about where things stand in terms of LGBTQ+ visibility in sport and whether things have changed since he came out; and about his wedding plans as well.
We're really grateful to Tom, who was one of the first people to talk to us when we were just finding our feet - and we think you'll like him as much as we do.
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6/4/2020 • 25 minutes, 42 seconds
The One on BBC Radio 5 Live for Pride Month
We've been making this podcast since 2018 - and arguably, this is our most significant one yet.
What started as a little segment in a sports show has grown into a standalone podcast - and now, we're kicking off Pride Month on BBC Radio 5 Live with this special episode.
It features some of the most memorable moments from more than 100 episodes - and looks at things like visibility, coming out, representation and falling in love. We've tried to group them together into themes, but ultimately, they're stories from some amazing people that should help give you an idea of what it's like to be LGBTQ+ in sport.
If you can't stay up late to hear the BBC Radio 5 Live broadcast, this is an exclusive first listen to the show that will broadcast at midnight on June 1st, 2020. And if you're listening back or finding us for the first time, welcome to the club!
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5/31/2020 • 56 minutes, 27 seconds
The One with Lewis Nicholls
It's fair to say pro-wrestling is one of the more unique forms of sports entertainment out there.
The villains pride themselves on being hated, the heroes do their best to get the crowd behind them - and even though the outcomes of the matches are pre-determined, they still involved real physical skill and strength from everyone involved.
It's something Lewis Nicholls has loved from a young age – and now he makes his living from it, both as the on-screen general manager for the UK’s Evolution Wrestling and as an interviewer with his own social media channel, carrying out in-depth conversations with people from inside the industry.
There’s loads to enjoy in this conversation – from how wrestling has welcomed him with open arms; how it has evolved to become one of the more inclusive forms of sports entertainment; what it takes to be a good ‘bad guy’ in wrestling; interviewing your heroes; and what makes a brilliant wrestling match/ moment.
So, even if wrestling isn’t your thing, we recommend you stick with this one – because we think you’ll find it really, really interesting, and we’re massively grateful Lewis took the time to join us for it.
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5/27/2020 • 27 minutes, 12 seconds
The One with Faye Easton
They say in sport that you're either a player or a coach - but the woman you're going to meet today is a dab hand at both.
Faye Easton plays for Peterborough Ladies - and when she's not doing that, she's fulfilling her other role as the Head Coach for the South London Stags.
So, it's fair to say that she's missing sport - and particularly rugby - as much as anyone at the moment, and we really enjoyed our conversation with her.
There’s loads on the agenda, from how Faye got her start in rugby to the difference between being a player and a coach – as well as the importance of inclusivity and diversity in all aspects of life, not just sport.
We love this chat with Faye – especially because, as you’re going to hear, we ended up having to do it twice!
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5/20/2020 • 24 minutes, 45 seconds
The One on 12th Man
They say that when you're passionate about something, you'll do almost anything to make it happen.
And Jack Gemmell and Caitlin Black have done exactly that to raise the money they needed to make the short-film 12th Man, which looks at what it's like to come to terms with your own sexuality within the context of an uber-masculine Scottish football team.
To make it happen, the pair launched their own crowd-funder and took on an extraordinary physical challenge that took them into the heart of Scottish football - and both Jack and Caitlin are on the podcast today to talk about how it all came together.
It's a cracking chat, this - looking at the origins of the film, how they made it happen, what it felt like to see filming begin, the support they had from the Scottish football scene and why they want 12th Man to be more than just a film.
We really like it, and we think you will as well.
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5/13/2020 • 26 minutes, 18 seconds
The One with Emily Rudge
She's been part of the England rugby keague set up for more than a decade - the captain of the national side and part of the World Cup squad on three separate occasions.
And when Emily Rudge isn't representing her country on the grandest stage of them all, she's playing for St Helen's in the domestic league, and teaching PE at her local school.
We *think* it's the first time that we've had an England captain on the BBC's LGBT Sport Podcast - and Emily is an absolute cracker of the guest who really doesn't disappoint.
There's so much to enjoy in this podcast - from inclusivity in rugby league, to the importance of getting kids into PE at a young age, to the huge role her Dad played in getting Emily into rugby league and helping her succeed in the sport.
We really loved having Emily on and we think you’ll love this episode as well - so listen, share and enjoy!
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5/6/2020 • 25 minutes, 29 seconds
The One with Dan Crump
In another world, the football season is preparing to reach a dramatic conclusion. Titles are being won, relegation battles fought, trophies lifted - at all levels, this was supposed to be the business end of the footballing year.
But at the moment, none of that is happening - so what's it like to be a football fanatic being forced to live without the beautiful game?
Daniel Crump is the captain of Charlton Invicta - an LGBTQ+ friendly side based in London. He's a brilliant guest - as we take a look at his life growing up in football; why he is such a huge lover of the beautiful game; what took him to Charlton Invicta and the pride he feels being associated with the side; and Spurs.
Yeah, to be honest, we talk about Spurs a lot - but we hope you don't mind, as Dan is such a cracking guest!
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4/29/2020 • 22 minutes, 13 seconds
The One with Lucy Shuker
Lucy Shuker is one of the most successful wheelchair tennis players the UK has ever produced.
A veteran of three Paralympics and a bronze medalist at two of them, she's also reached the finals at Wimbledon and the Australian Open - in fact, she's a regular at all the Grand Slams - and is a near-constant part of the world's Top 5 rankings as both a singles and doubles player.
We've wanted to have Lucy on the pod for a while - and now we've finally made it happen, it really doesn't disappoint!
From how she got back into sport again after her accident, to falling in love with a woman; from the moment Lucy won her first Paralympic medal, to her hopes for what will be a fourth consecutive Paralympics, this is an interview that will stick with you for a long, long time - and we really think you'll enjoy it.
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4/23/2020 • 26 minutes, 6 seconds
The One with Chris Mosier
It’s a landmark episode of the BBC’s LGBT Sport Podcast – as we reach 100 episodes.
For a big show, you need a big guest - and that’s exactly what we’ve got with Chris Mosier.
He’s someone who is used to accomplishing firsts. A Hall of Fame triathlete, Chris is also an All-American duathlete who made history as the first transgender man to represent the United States in international competition. And then, earlier this year, he made history again – when he became the first trans-man to compete in a US Olympic Trial, when he entered the race-walking event.
Chris is also the first trans-man to feature in a Nike commercial and the first trans-athlete to appear in ESPN’s Body Issue – and we’re over the moon that he’s joined us to talk about all of that and more on our 100th episode.
It’s a cracking episode with a brilliant talker – and we really think you’re going to like it.
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4/17/2020 • 25 minutes, 2 seconds
Revisited: The One on Pro Wrestling
If you’re a wrestling fan, you’ll know that this week tends to be the most exciting one of the whole calendar – where established behemoths like WWE and smaller, independent companies alike schedule some of their most important shows.
And while coronavirus means this year has been different to many others that came before it, we thought we’d embrace pro-wrestling at one of its peak times by having a look back at four guests from this unique blend of sport and entertainment who have joined us on the BBC’s LGBT Sport Podcast over the years.
So, over the course of this ‘Revisited’ episode, you’ll hear from:
- Mike Parrow – one half of the ‘The End’ tag-team and a stalwart of Japanese wrestling, talking about his coming out.
- Anthony Bowens – the pro-wrestler and model, talking about the match that got him into wrestling.
- Fred Rosser – the wrestler formerly known as ‘Darren Young’, on coming out to Vince McMahon and making a little bit of history.
- Brad Slayer – the British wrestler and the first out gay man to challenge for the NWA World Heavyweight Championship.
They all have fascinating stories to tell from their time in the wrestling business – and unique takes on what it’s like to be LGBTQ+ in it as well. So, give it a listen!
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4/8/2020 • 25 minutes, 7 seconds
The One with Scott Read
If you're a cricket commentator, it doesn't get much better than hearing your name on the roster for the iconic Test Match Special programme.
On one more occasion, that's something the brilliant Scott Read has been able to experience - including during last year's World Cup in England. So what's it like to join such an iconic show - and does the thrill ever leave you?
Scott is a fantastic guest in an episode that details his journey from starting out in Burnley (including watching his hometown club's ascent to the Premier League) to sharing a commentary box with some legendary broadcasters - to why he feels sport is becoming more and more inclusive to the LGBTQ+ community.
Plus, we have a bit of a natter about a proper commentary bugbear - when you know a big moment is coming up, but you have to hand over to your colleague to describe it!
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4/1/2020 • 33 minutes, 42 seconds
The One with Jade Konkel
When it comes to guests, Jade Konkel is a bit of a gift - because there's so much to talk about.
The rugby union star made history when she became Scotland's first-ever female professional - and now plays for both her country and Harlequins Women.
She's also martial arts black-belt, a personal trainer - and at the end of last year, she got a massive surprise when she went out to propose to her girlfriend, only to find out her girlfriend was about to propose to her at the exact same time.
We absolutely loved having Jade on - and honestly, we think she'll brighten up your day as well, so give her a listen.
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3/26/2020 • 27 minutes, 18 seconds
The One with Mike Minay
As a child, Mike Minay used to go along to Maine Road to watch Manchester City as a fan.
Now, he gets to follow their progress around Europe as the club’s commentator for BBC Radio Manchester – and has seen them play everywhere from Wembley in the League Cup Final to the San Siro in the Champions League.
So how did Mike get to where he is now; what are some of the tips he gives to other aspiring young commentators; and what have his experiences been like as a gay man in the world of sports media?
We absolutely loved this episode - two commentary nerds geeking out and having a chat about the beautiful game - and we think you'll like it as well.
PS. Mike had been up from about 5am when we recorded - so we're even *more* grateful he took the time to chat to chat with us!
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3/21/2020 • 29 minutes, 16 seconds
Revisited: The One with Rowena Purdy
For more than two years, the BBC's LGBT Sport Podcast has been shining a spotlight on the contributions made by amazing groups and individuals in the world of sport who happen to be LGBTQ+.
In this special 'Revisited' episode, we catch up with one of our favourite interviews from the archives – as transgender rallying champion and columnist Rowena Purdy shares her remarkable story.
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3/18/2020 • 18 minutes, 16 seconds
Revisited: The One with Liz Carmouche
For more than two years, the BBC's LGBT Sport Podcast has been shining a spotlight on the contributions made by amazing groups and individuals in the world of sport who happen to be LGBTQ+.
In this special 'Revisited' episode, we catch up with one of our favourite interviews from the archives – as MMA pioneer Liz Carmouche joins us to talk about making history in the UFC, her time as a Marine and being an LGBTQ role-model.
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3/18/2020 • 14 minutes, 24 seconds
Revisited: The One with Jo Currie
For more than two years, the BBC's LGBT Sport Podcast has been shining a spotlight on the contributions made by amazing groups and individuals in the world of sport who happen to be LGBTQ+.
In this special 'Revisited' episode, we catch up with one of our favourite interviews from the archives - as the BBC's Women's Sport Reporter Jo Currie joins us to talk about how she got her start in the industry, some of her favourite reporting moments - and her surprising broadcasting icon!
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3/18/2020 • 20 minutes, 34 seconds
Revisited: The One with Nigel Owens
For more than two years, the BBC's LGBT Sport Podcast has been shining a spotlight on the contributions made by amazing groups and individuals in the world of sport who happen to be LGBTQ+.
In this special 'Revisited' episode, we catch up with one of our favourite interviews from the archives - as iconic referee Nigel Owens joins us to talk about his career in rugby.
From refereeing the World Cup Final to being one of the few out gay men in the sport, this is an episode you won't forget in a hurry.
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3/18/2020 • 20 minutes, 19 seconds
The One with Darryl Telles
We live in an age of Rainbow Laces and Pride games - in fact, it's fair to say that sport has never been more welcoming than it is now to the LGBTQ+ community.
But it hasn't always been that way. Darryl Telles knows what it's like to live in an era where homophobic abuse was rife on the terraces - and in other parts of life as well.
A Spurs fan who has followed football for decades, he tells us his story of experiencing discrimination and prejudice in the beautiful game; how it almost drove him away from sport for good; and how he and other LGBTQ+ fans helped lead the fight to reclaim their place in football.
This is a powerful, often emotional story - and one that doesn't get told enough - and we really think it'll stick with you.
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3/12/2020 • 26 minutes, 34 seconds
The One with Zach Sullivan
At the end of January, Zach Sullivan put the sport of ice-hockey on the homepages of websites around the world when he came out as bisexual.
His announcement coincided with the English game’s first Pride weekend – so now is Zach finding things now, now the media whirlwind has died down a bit?
We met up in Manchester with Zach for a chat that we really enjoyed, and we think you will as well. There's lots on the agenda for this one, from how Zach got involved in ice hockey to the highs and lows that come with being a professional athlete; as well as how he became comfortable enough to be open and honest about his own sexuality with the wider sporting world, and whether he thinks he's brave.
We're really grateful Zach took the time - especially as doing media interviews really isn't his type of thing - and we hope you enjoy his frankness as much as we did.
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3/4/2020 • 20 minutes, 22 seconds
The One with Robyn Love and Laurie Williams
When it comes to sporting CVs, Robyn Love and Laurie Williams have a lot to shout about.
Both have represented Team GB in wheelchair basketball on pretty much every stage possible - from European Championships to World Championships to the Paralympic Games.
And this weekend, they basically broke social media when they announced their engagement on Twitter and Instagram! On this wide-ranging interview, we talk about that - and so many other things, from the representation of disabled people in the media to coming out to how they switch off from the sporting world (we'll give you a clue ... it involves the X-Box!).
We absolutely loved this episode and we think you will as well - in fact, it's one of our favourite ones yet!
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2/26/2020 • 31 minutes, 6 seconds
The One from the National Football Museum
On Wednesday, Justin Fashanu went into the National Football Museum's Hall of Fame.
It's a story that has made headlines around the world - so we thought we'd do something a little bit different and take you inside the Museum for the induction itself. This episode is a bit different to our other ones - with not just one guest but lots of them, all talking about what Justin Fashanu's induction means to them.
The edits are a bit rough and ready - but the stories, as always, are powerful and surprising, and we think they'll give you a real flavour of what the event was all about.
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2/20/2020 • 21 minutes, 39 seconds
The One on Justin Fashanu
Wednesday would have been the 59th birthday of Justin Fashanu.
The footballer was the first black player to earn a one-million pound transfer fee – and played for twenty-two clubs in a career that spanned two decades.
Fashanu was also the first male English professional to come out as gay while playing – and became the victim of constant crowd abuse as a result.
Ultimately, Fashanu took his own life – but on Wednesday, he’s being posthumously inducted into the National Football Museum’s Hall of Fame for his contributions to the sport.
His niece Amal will be accepting the honour on his behalf – and joins us for this powerful, poignant episode on her uncle’s legacy, as well as her memories of him as a man. There’s so much on the agenda – from visibility to inclusivity to mental health – and we think this is an interview that you won’t forget any time soon.
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2/18/2020 • 21 minutes, 46 seconds
The One with Richard Hearne
We’ve often heard the phrase ‘get on your bike’ – and in Manchester, one group has taken it literally!
‘Pride Out’ is Manchester’s first LGBT+ cycling group – and is already going from strength to strength.
Richard Hearne is the man behind it - and has joined us for a brand-new episode of the podcast to talk about everything to do with the group. From how it came about to the importance of having inclusive spaces in sport, this is a fascinating conversation - including a segment on the concept of 'self censorship' that lots of LGBTQ+ people will be able to relate to.
And just one more thing - if Richard comes up to you in the supermarket, it might be a good idea to hold onto your rice. Trust us, that'll make sense after you listen!
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2/13/2020 • 24 minutes, 20 seconds
The One with Liam Claffey
Last summer, the Sheffield Eagles had arguably the biggest moment in their history when they came from behind to beat Widnes at Wembley to win the first-ever 1895 Cup.
It was a huge moment for the rugby league side - and watching it all unfold was Eagles' general manager Liam Claffey. He's a man that lives and breathes the Eagles - and, as a gay man, he's certainly been in demand as the sport reacts to the signing of Izzy Folau by the Catalan Dragons.
We reckon this is a cracking listen and a proper insight into what it's like to be a GM - doing everything from administration to marketing to designing the kit - and how you match professionalism with the passion you have as a fan.
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2/6/2020 • 23 minutes, 48 seconds
The One with Russ Saunders
We've covered all sorts of sports since we launched the BBC's LGBT Sport Podcast back in 2018.
From athletics to pro-wrestling, we've done the lot - but today, for the first time, we take a look at the world of horse-racing.
Russ Saunders is one of the people behind LGBT+ Inclusive Horse Racing - a new group that's trying to make the sport more welcoming and accepting for the LGBTQ+ community.
We'll be honest - we didn't know a tremendous amount about the sport before we started chatting with Russ, and he's the perfect guide to the sport of kings. This is a fascinating conversation that covers everything from how he got involved in the sport in the first place; to the steps that this syndicate is taking to help make the sport more inclusive; to what it is about horse-racing that continues to appeal to him.
We loved chatting with Russ - and we think you'll find him every bit as erudite and interesting as we did.
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2/1/2020 • 25 minutes, 7 seconds
The One with Danny McKeown-Henshall
We all know getting out and about is good for you, from both a physical and mental health point of view.
But research shows that many gay, bisexual and transgender men find it difficult to get involved in sport - because they've often experienced abuse or discrimination when they've tried in the past.
That's where the charity OutdoorLads is making a difference - by offering activities for gay, bisexual and transgender men that are based around the themes of staying active.
Vice-chair Danny McKeown-Henshall is the organisation's vice-chair - and has been telling us all about what the organisation does and how he got involved. So, expect plenty of chat about outdoor activities; taking a chance on getting involved with something new - and an OutdoorLads engagement!
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1/23/2020 • 24 minutes, 19 seconds
The One with Ellie Mackin
Ellie Mackin isn't the most famous person we've had on the BBC's LGBT Sport Podcast, or the most accomplished.
But I promise, she's provided us with an episode that will stick with you for a very long time - and a story that you genuinely couldn't make up. In fact, we don't want to tell you too much about Ellie, as we want you to listen and hear her remarkable tale in her own words.
So, we'll let you know that she is a former champion goalball player - and that hers is a story of overcoming adversity, discovering your identity, and finding a place where you truly belong.
And we think that, once you hear Ellie's story, you won't ever forget it.
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1/19/2020 • 31 minutes, 38 seconds
The One with Tadd Fujikawa
Tadd Fujikawa is used to making history.
In 2006 - at the age of just fifteen - the golfer became the youngest person to ever qualify for the US Open. And then a decade or so later, he came out as gay - something no male pro had ever done before.
So what has life been like for Tadd in the time since he opened up publicly about his sexuality - and what has life been like since then? We've wanted to have him on the podcast for a long time - and we've finally managed to rig up the technology between Cornwall and Hawaii to make it happen.
In this episode, Tadd talks openly and frankly about his journey - from first picking up a club in Hawaii to playing at the US Open to why visibility in sport is so, so important. So give it a listen!
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1/16/2020 • 20 minutes, 39 seconds
The One with Emma Collings-Barnes and Greg King-Limb
We've been trying to put our finger on why we enjoyed this episode so much.
Emma Collings-Barnes is a former British Open Water Champion who competed at the European Championships, while Greg King-Limb has successfully coached swimmers at a county, regional and national level.
They are - respectively - Director of Swimming and Assistant Director of Swimming at Mount Kelly: a school in Devon with a programme that has produced scores of international swimmers, including those who have medalled at an Olympic, Paralympic, World, Commonwealth and European level.
That, on its own, is fascinating enough - but what really makes this resonate is the fact that Emma and Greg are both LGBTQ+, and feel that creating a culture of tolerance and respect with the students they coach is just as important as ensuring they get the right results in the pool.
And let's be honest - how many of us could have done with seeing exactly that kind of openness and honesty when we were at school and, perhaps, coming to terms with our own sexuality or gender identity?
So, listen to this one and enjoy it - because we really loved making it.
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1/11/2020 • 27 minutes, 57 seconds
The One with Claire Purdy
It's very hard to describe Claire Purdy without using the word 'legend' - because genuinely, that's what she is.
At the end of last month, she made her 250th appearance for Wasps Ladies - and as if that mammoth achievement wasn't enough, she was part of the England side that lifted the World Cup in 2014.
Few people have done more to be a servant to the game - and it's an absolute pleasure to have the chance to sit down with her for this episode of the podcast.
There's plenty on the agenda for this one, including how Claire got her start in the game; whether winning the World Cup in 2014 banished the memories of losing in 2010; returning to work and reality; how Wasps is like a family; and what the next stage of her life has in store.
Honestly, we loved having someone as articulate, modest and open as Claire on the podcast - and we're sure you'll love her as well!
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1/8/2020 • 24 minutes, 18 seconds
The One with Carl Jackson
"We're here to play hockey, win games and drink beers..."
That's the ethos of the Southern Lights Ice Hockey Club in Melbourne, Australia - and, in almost every way, they're just like all the other sides they end up playing. But in one regard, the Lights are entirely unique - as they were set up last year to be the country's first-ever inclusive hockey team.
The team's creation came at the same time as the Australian LGBT Ice Hockey organisation was set up - so why are they both needed, and what difference are they making?
President Carl Jackson joins us to talk all about it - including how he got into the sport; how the Lights were set up; the ethos that keeps driving it all forward; and what the goal is for the future. Oh, and we think we've committed to training with the Lights if we ever end up in Australia - so wish us well with that one!
Genuinely, Carl is a lovely bloke to chat with - incredibly articulate and passionate about his sport - and we reckon he's the perfect guest to get the New Year underway!
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1/2/2020 • 21 minutes, 28 seconds
The One with the Olympians and Paralympians
It's the end of the year - and we thought we'd round off 2019 with a special episode, looking back at some of the Olympians and Paralympians who have joined us during the past year.
There's a whole array of brilliant athletes and officials over the course of the next half-an-hour, as we hear from:
- Paralympic gold medallist Megan Giglia
- Olympic gold medallist Susannah Townsend
- Two-time Paralympian David Hill
- Olympic sailing judge Alan Baser
- Paralympian Caroline Matthews
- Double Olympic gold medallist Nicola Adams
You'll hear stories of overcoming adversity; of reaching new highs; of claiming the ultimate prize; and the importance of being LGBTQ+ role models.
And if you like what you hear from any of our guests, don't forget you can hear their full episode right now by taking a look in our back-catalogue of shows!
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12/27/2019 • 34 minutes, 2 seconds
The One with James 'Stress' O'Leary
We cover lots of different sports on the BBC’s LGBT Sport Podcast – and this week, we’ve got another one to add to the list.
eSports - otherwise known as professional video gaming - is enjoyed by millions around the world – and right at the centre of it all is a man from Cardiff.
James O’Leary is a commentator followed by thousands of people on social media - and on this fascinating episode, he gives us a brilliant insight into what eSports is all about. On the agenda - getting his start in the industry; the difficulties and joys of calling this form of action; whether he felt he could have come out earlier; and his career highlights so far.
We loved chatting with James for this one - and we really think you'll like him as well.
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12/22/2019 • 36 minutes, 28 seconds
The One with Nicola Adams
It’s fair to say Nicola Adams has helped to define this sporting decade.
A double Olympic gold medallist, she's been one of the biggest sporting personalities in the country ever since she burst onto the national scene as one of the faces of London 2012.
Add to that her achievements as a Commonwealth, World and European champion - as well as success when she turned pro - and it's no wonder she's incredibly proud of what she achieved, not only inside the ring but outside the ropes as well.
We've wanted to have Nicola on the podcast since we began more than a year ago - and we're so glad we've finally managed to make it happen. There's loads going on in this episode - from making ends meet as an amateur to what comes next after Nicola's retirement - and we're privileged to have had the chance to get so much of this sporting superstar's time!
Honestly, it's one of our favourite episodes yet!
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@NicolaAdamsOBE
www.nicola-adams.com
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12/18/2019 • 24 minutes, 43 seconds
The One with Lizzie Williams
She’s one of the country’s leading wheelchair racers – with dreams of making it to the Paralympics before her career is over.
But Lizzie Williams’ sporting career has been far from straightforward, with difficulties on and off the track that would have caused many other athletes to quit entirely. From fighting to get the funding she needs to continue competing to coming to terms with her own sexuality, it’s been quite a journey for the athlete.
We loved chatting with Lizzie about her story - including introducing us to the phrase 'queer info-sponge' - and hearing about the role model she's become to other LGBTQ+ people in the world of sport.
Plus, we drop some Chicago lyrics - so that's got to be worth a listen!
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@LizzieWheelz
facebook.com/lizziewheelzgb
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12/12/2019 • 28 minutes, 13 seconds
The One with Craig Maxwell-Keys
Craig Maxwell-Keys had barely stopped playing due to injury when he took charge of his first game of rugby.
That was at a youth festival – and since then, his career has been on an upward trajectory. He’s refereed Premiership, Challenge Cup and international games – and was the man in the middle when 80-thousand people packed out Twickenham to watch the Army take on the Navy.
Of course, if you’re a rugby fan, you probably know all of this – but what you may not know is that Maxwell-Keys is gay.
He’s never spoken about his sexuality before – but for this year’s Rainbow Laces campaign, sat down with us for his first-ever podcast appearance.
We're really grateful he took the time to join us - and allowed us to share his story. On the agenda - getting into officiating, his career highlights, the importance of being his authentic self in sport ... and a cheeky Nandos with Nigel Owens!
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12/5/2019 • 25 minutes, 39 seconds
The One with Michael Gunning
We'll put this out there straight away - we love Michael Gunning.
The Jamaican international swimmer is one of the loveliest people we've had on the podcast - and we've got absolutely loads to chat about with him on this second 'Rainbow Laces' episode.
On the show today - how Michael got into swimming; the importance of BAME representation; coming out on reality television; aiming for the Olympics; and how an elite star actually manages to switch off.
Like I say, there's loads going on in this episode - which will make you laugh, cry, think and, hopefully, end up liking Michael as much as we do!
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Twitter/ Instagram: @MichaelGunning1
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11/28/2019 • 26 minutes, 45 seconds
The One with Conor Shaw
It's fair to say that Conor Shaw lives and breathes football.
As the Digital Content Manager at Wycombe Wanderers, he's one of the people responsible for engaging more and more fans with the successes that the League One club is having - and with the club flying high at the moment, it's a pretty good gig to have.
He's also fairly private about his personal life - which is why we're particularly grateful that he took the time to talk so openly and honestly for this episode of the podcast about what it's like to be a gay man in the beautiful game.
On the agenda today - the importance of #RainbowLaces, how football has always been part of his life - and how a person in his job manages to stop themselves from constantly checking their social media!
We loved having Conor on - and we think you'll love him as well.
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@ConorShaw
@wwfcofficial
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jack.murley@bbc.co.uk
11/27/2019 • 20 minutes, 30 seconds
The One with Ryan Atkin
They're often the people who come in for the most abuse in football - mocked when they get decisions wrong and hardly recognised when they get the tough calls right.
In fact, most referees would probably do anything to have a quiet life - so why, two years ago, did Ryan Atkin make the decision to become one of the few people in the men's game to open up about being gay?
He's been speaking frankly and honestly on this brand-new episode of the podcast about why more gay men don't come out in football; about whether he'd referee in places with poor LGBTQ+ rights records; about his new work with Stonewall and the importance of representation ... and who he thinks will win the Premier League.
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Twitter: @ryantatkin
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@jack_murley
jack.murley@bbc.co.uk
11/22/2019 • 27 minutes, 21 seconds
The One with the Caledonian Thebans
It’s the biggest amateur rugby competition in the world – and in the next couple of years, it could be coming to the UK.
But that’s only part of the story of the Bingham Cup - an event held in the memory of a rugby-loving man who gave his life trying to save other during the 9/11 terrorist attacks.
Luke Fenton is the chairman of the Caledonian Thebans – the inclusive team looking to bring the tournament to Scotland in 2022 - and joins us for a brand-new episode of the podcast. It's a cracking listen this week, if we say so ourselves, as Luke talks about why inclusive rugby is so important, the pride he feels in being associated with the Bingham Cup - and how he fits everything in.
Also, he's definitely the first person from Orkney we've ever had on the podcast!
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Caledonian Thebans: @ThebansRugby
Bingham Cup Bid: @ScotBid2022
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Twitter: @jack_murley
Email: jack.murley@bbc.co.uk
11/12/2019 • 24 minutes, 59 seconds
The One with Chris 'Big Bear' McNaghten
He's one of the strongest men on the island of Ireland - but Chris McNaghten says he's not always had the inner-strength to match his outer muscle.
The reason was simple.
In a part of the UK that has lagged behind the rest of the nation in terms of LGBTQ rights, Chris knew he was gay - and was absolutely terrified about what that could mean.
So why is he so open about his sexuality now - and what does it mean to him to become a role model in his own right?
This is an absolutely fascinating listen - on the life of a strongman; on what it takes to make it to the top of the game; on why Chris is now comfortable with himself - and who introduced him to the 'different' meaning of the word 'bear'!
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Twitter:@BearStrong3
Website:bearstrong.co.uk
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11/6/2019 • 31 minutes, 47 seconds
The One with Anita Asante
Her career spans more than fifteen years - and has taken her to some of the grandest stages in football.
A highly-respected England international, Anita Asante was also an ever-present for the Team GB side at the London Olympics in 2012.
Domestically, Anita has won the FA Cup, the UEFA Cup, the National Premier League, the League Cup, the Swedish Super Cup ... in fact, in a career that's taken her everywhere from the United States to Sweden, there's not a lot that Anita hasn't done.
We've wanted to speak with Anita for ages on the podcast - and we're so glad we've managed to get her on for this episode. On the agenda; the importance of education; finding role models; keeping your Olympic selection quiet ... and who Anita would want to share a podcast with.
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Twitter: NicenNeetz
Insta:@Neetz2
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Twitter: @jack_murley
Email: jack.murley@bbc.co.uk
10/30/2019 • 22 minutes, 36 seconds
The One with Sammy Walker
As a child, Sammy Walker loved playing football - and was blinking good at it as well.
Scouted by Wycombe Wanderers and part of the academy at Watford FC as a teenager, the game was Sammy's life - but then, there were eight years in the wilderness, where getting back onto the pitch as a player was almost unimaginable to her.
Why?
Well, Sammy is transgender - and didn't think there'd be a place for her in football after she began coming to terms with her identity. But now, she's back playing regularly again - so what drew her back?
This episode is so powerful, as Sammy explains exactly what it's like to be a trans person in football - from the fear of what others will think, to the importance of inclusive sides. And if that sounds a bit heavy, we also talk about FIFA vs Pro Evo -- and why the number 7 is so important to her!
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Twitter: @No7Sammy
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@jack_murley
jack.murley@bbc.co.uk
10/23/2019 • 18 minutes, 27 seconds
The One with Jess Fishlock
It's no exaggeration to say Jess Fishlock is a footballing legend.
She's Wales' most-capped ever player; she's played around the world, winning the Champions League twice; and in 2018, she was made an MBE for her services to football and the LGBTQ+ community.
Jess is rehabbing in the United States at the moment, after suffering an injury to her ACL while playing with her club Reign FC - and it's from her base in Washington that she joins us for this episode of the podcast.
On the agenda - her footballing highlights; LGBTQ+ rights at the moment; whether she'd get into management in the future; and how she switches off!
We loved having her on the podcast (and have wanted to for a long time!) - and we're really grateful she took the time to make it happen.
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Twitter: @JessFishlock
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Twitter: @jack_murley
Email: jack.murley@bbc.co.uk
10/16/2019 • 20 minutes, 39 seconds
The One with Megan Giglia
Megan Giglia's journey in elite sport began in the most traumatic way possible - when she walked into hospital with a headache like she'd never experienced before.
What happened next changed her life and started her on a remarkable journey that turned her into an international cycling star - a world champion and world record-holder who won Britain's first gold medal at the Paralympics in Rio in 2016.
We've not had a story like Megan's on the podcast before - and we think you'll find it every bit as fascinating and inspiring as we did. From physical health to mental health; from being an LGBT role model to video-gaming, we cover absolutely everything - and honestly, it was a real privilege to finally get to speak with Megan.
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Twitter: @MeganGiglia
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Twitter: @jack_murley
Email: jack.murley@bbc.co.uk
10/10/2019 • 28 minutes, 49 seconds
The One with Huw Ware
For Huw Ware, getting involved in darts was a case of being in the right place at the right time -- and watching a match that got him hooked!
From there, he went on to play at an international level -- but officiating was the path he ultimately ended up following. Then, he ended up forging a path of his own - when he came out and as the first openly gay man in the sport.
We've wanted to have Huw on for a while - and he doesn't disappoint. Candid and funny, open and personal, Huw takes us inside the sport - giving us the lowdown on everything from the support he's had from the PDC, to some of the lower moments he's experienced since coming out.
Plus, why he won't play darts to relax anymore - and how his style of announcing the scores has evolved over the years!
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Twitter: @HuwWare100
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10/3/2019 • 33 minutes, 5 seconds
The First Anniversary One
On September 25th 2018, we launched the BBC's LGBT Sport Podcast.
We would never - EVER - have imagined that twelve months later, we'd still be going strong. The fact we are is entirely down to you - for listening; for sharing on social media and, in the case of our guests, for coming on-air to tell their story to the world.
Your support means sporting stories from the LGBTQ+ community are now shared with more than 8 million people on the BBC Sport Twitter feed, and have helped to change the conversation about what it means to be LGBTQ+ in sport.
So, in this special episode, we revisit ten memorable moments from the last twelve months, featuring:
- Keegan Hirst
- Bob Ballard
- David Haigh
- Jill Ellis
- Kate Howey
- David Hill
- Clare Balding
- Thomas Page McBee
- Jo Currie
- Kellie Maloney
You can hear their stories in full in our archive - which includes 62 episodes, with guests from the grassroots to Olympic gold medallists. And, once again, thank you for the support you've given in making this podcast a reality.
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9/25/2019 • 43 minutes, 1 second
The One with Tom Carr
If you encountered homophobia on the terraces, would you turn round and tackle it?
That's the type of question that - sadly - is all too common for LGBTQ+ football fans, and one that Tom Carr is familiar with. The journalist set up the Argyle Pride supporters group for LGBTQ+ fans of Plymouth Argyle, and has been speaking to us for a brand-new episode of the podcast.
On the agenda - reconciling his identity as an LGBTQ+ person with his love of football; what could be preventing a male professional footballer from coming out in the British game; confronting homophobia when it happens in person; and getting started in journalism.
He gives the most eloquent description of what it's like to hear homophobia at a game that we've had in a long time - and we hope you enjoy hearing from him as much as we did.
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@ItsMeTomC
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9/20/2019 • 23 minutes, 22 seconds
The One with the Kings Cross Steelers
It's fair to say the Kings Cross Steelers have been on quite a journey over the past twenty-five years.
Last month, they were named Men's Team of the Year at the National Rugby Awards - but when they were founded back in 1995, they sometimes struggled to find opponents to play against.
Why? Well, the Kings Cross Steelers were the world's first-ever gay rugby team - and have been on quite a journey since they were first set up.
Josh Birch is the first team captain - and has been talking to us about mainstream recognition; spending a season unbeaten; the importance of inclusive clubs - and who he fancies to go all the way at the Rugby World Cup in Japan.
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Twitter: @KXSteelers
WEBSITE: www.kxsrfc.com
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jack.murley@bbc.co.uk
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9/13/2019 • 23 minutes, 4 seconds
The One with Luke Tuffs
Sometimes, we speak with guests who have such a passion for their sport that they find it hard to contain. It literally spills out of them - and fires up everyone around them as well!
Luke Tuffs is one of those people - the manager of Knaphill FC, and a man who has loved football for as long as he can remember. He's someone we've wanted to have on the podcast for a long time - and he doesn't disappointed.
On the agenda in this episode - learning to get the respect of a squad; the pressure he puts on himself; his experiences of being LGBT in the amateur game versus the league structure; and who he'd like to match up against as a manager if *every* option was on the table.
It was cracking to have him on the show - and we really think you'll enjoy hearing from Luke as much as we did.
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Luke Tuffs: @luketuffs
Knaphill FC:@KnaphillFC
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9/4/2019 • 18 minutes, 59 seconds
The One with Beth Allen
We'll say this right now - Beth Allen is a lot of fun to chat with.
She's an All-American golfer and the 2016 LET Order of Merit winner - who found out she was a match as a kidney donor to her brother while waiting to play her first round at the Australian Open. When she's not on the course, she's encouraging others to get involved in the game, doing her own podcast -- and playing VERY competitive games of table tennis with her wife.
On the agenda with her - coming through the American collegiate system; the hole-in-one that changed her life; and getting stuck in a diamond bracelet!
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@BethAllenGolf
http://www.bethallengolf.com/
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jack.murley@bbc.co.uk
8/28/2019 • 26 minutes, 28 seconds
The One with Vicki Carter
She describes herself as 'an average pool swimmer' at best - but it's probably fair to say that Vicki Carter is selling herself short.
She's competed at numerous Gay Games - and last month, she became the latest person to conquer the English Channel. Why? Well, partly to prove something to herself - but also to raise the money necessary to host the UK's first awards shows celebrating LGBTQ+ people in sport.
She's been speaking about her training; the mantra that kept her going; why it was something she wanted to do - and why she's so passionate about getting more LGBTQ+ individuals active.
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@out_for_sport
@outtoswim
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jack.murley@bbc.co.uk
8/23/2019 • 24 minutes, 59 seconds
The One on Homophobia and Transphobia in Sport
For one episode, we've decided to do something different.
To focus not on the training schedules and achievements of one amazing LGBTQ+ sportsperson – but on the reality of what it's like to experience homophobia and transphobia in sport.
After all, at a time when Kick It Out is reporting increased discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation in football, and where reported transgender hate crimes in England, Scotland and Wales have increased by more than 80 percent, how could we not?
So, this compilation episode is seven of our previous guests, giving us seven different takes on the homophobia and transphobia that they've experienced.
We won't lie. It's pretty heavy -- but we felt it was important to do. And we promise, normal service will be resumed next time.
THE LIST OF VOICES YOU HEARD:
1) Jack Murley - presenter of the BBC's LGBT Sport Podcast.
2) Verity Smith - transgender rugby player.
3) Liz Carmouche - MMA fighter and UFC history-maker.
4) Ryan Mather - the founder of the Proud Terriers supporters group.
5) John Dickinson-Lilley - the former British and European skiing champion.
6) Aslie Pitter - Stonewall FC founder member.
7) Di Cunningham - chair of Pride in Football.
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Twitter: @jack_murley
Email: jack.murley@bbc.co.uk
8/16/2019 • 19 minutes, 54 seconds
The One with Alan Baser
Imagine having the final say on whether someone wins a gold medal -- or goes home with absolutely nothing?
That's the sort of pressure that falls on Alan Baser's shoulders as one of the most respected judges in the world of sailing. It's a vocation that's taken him across the globe, from World Championships to Olympic Games -- and it all began with a bit of messing around on a river in Plymouth.
He's been telling us about the life of a judge; about getting decisions right and not taking the work home with you; about how even he feels 'imposter syndrome'; and how singing in a choir helps him relax!
He's a brilliant guest - and we think you'll like him as much as we do.
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Twitter: @AlanBaser
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Twitter: @jack_murley
Email: jack.murley@bbc.co.uk
8/9/2019 • 26 minutes, 16 seconds
The One with Brad Slayer
It's a title that dates back to 1905 -- and is one of the most prestigious belts in the world of professional wrestling.
But remarkably, it took more than 100 years for an openly gay man to challenge for NWA World Heavyweight Championship. That happened last month, when Norfolk grappler Brad Slayer wrestled for the belt in front of a hometown crowd at Carrow Road.
So what's it like to be a gay man in this unique form of sports entertainment? Brad's been speaking to us about how he got into the business; why it's such an inclusive place for LGBTQ+ wrestlers and fans; the difference having an understanding partner can make; and who his dream opponent would be.
We always love having wrestlers on the podcast - and it was great to chat all things grappling with Brad.
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@BradSlayer
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jack.murley@bbc.co.uk
7/31/2019 • 27 minutes, 39 seconds
The One with Susannah Townsend and Fiona Pocock
We've never interviewed a couple on the podcast before - so for our first time doing that, we decided to aim big.
We mean, really big.
Fiona Pocock is a Premiership winner and England rugby star, and Susannah Townsend is a hockey player who was part of the legendary Team GB side that won gold at the Olympics in Rio in 2016. Elite athletes on the field, they're incredible guests off it - talking passionately about the highs and lows that come with carving out a career at the highest levels of world sport.
Also on the agenda - whether they consider themselves to be LGBTQ+ role models; spreading their message to a new generation; and who is REALLY the most competitive of the two of them.
We loved having them on the podcast - and honestly, this is one of our favourite episodes yet.
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Susannah: @stownsend7
Fiona: @Fiona_Pocock
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jack.murley@bbc.co.uk
7/24/2019 • 32 minutes, 15 seconds
The One with Di Cunningham
This time last year, English football fans were on a high after Gareth Southgate's side's unexpected run to the semi-finals of the World Cup in Russia.
It was the national team's best performance since Italia '90, but off the pitch, something else was taking place. An group of fans called 3 Lions Pride began displaying an England flag in the colours of the rainbow at games, to help highlight the support the team was getting from LGBTQ+ fans.
But in a country with a poor record on LGBTQ rights where 'gay propoganda' is banned, just unveiling that banner was a brave move in itself.
Di Cunningham was one of the group's co-founders - as well as the person behind Proud Canaries AND the current chair of Pride in Football. She's an absolutely brilliant guest - articulate, funny and passionate about making the beautiful game open to absolutely everyone.
Plus, she told us what Delia's cooking was really like!
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@di_ceee
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@jack_murley
jack.murley@bbc.co.uk
7/18/2019 • 31 minutes, 42 seconds
The One with Alex Kay-Jelski
If you've ever flicked through the back-pages of Britain's newspapers, you've probably read Alex Kay-Jelski's work.
After a stint as the Sports Editor at the Daily Mail, he moved to The Times to do the same job - and now, he's got an exciting new venture on the horizon.
So what's it like to be the person in charge of some of Britain's biggest sporting newsrooms - and how did he end up taking a trip to a warzone with a Dutch footballing legend?!
We've wanted to have Alex on the show for a while - and he didn't disappoint when it came to giving us a real insight into life on Fleet Street, and his experiences at two top newspapers. And as a fellow Spurs fan, he's welcome back any time he wants!
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Twitter: @AlexKayJelski
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Twitter: @jack_murley
Email: jack.murley@bbc.co.uk
7/10/2019 • 16 minutes, 44 seconds
The One with Richard Morris
Richard Morris has a CV that sounds like it's straight from the pages of an Ian Fleming novel.
He has a doctorate in history from the University of Cambridge; he's represented Britain on the international stage as a fencer; and now, Richard Morris makes his living as a racing driver for Spire Sports Cars.
He's also the co-founder of Racing Pride - a new organisation that's working to promote inclusion in the motorsport world.
He's been speaking to us for our 50th episode - about how he got into driving; what it feels like to get it just right while racing; and becoming the role model he feels he needed when he was growing up.
In fact, he's the closest thing we've had on the show to a real-life James Bond - and we really think you're going to like him.
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Richard Morris: @RichardMRacing/ hwww.richardmorrisracing.com
Racing Pride:@racingprideuk/ www.racingpride.com
7/4/2019 • 22 minutes, 5 seconds
The One with Kellie Maloney
For Kellie Maloney, boxing seemed to be in the blood.
In fact, it was a passion that took her from an amateur club as a schoolchild to managing Lennox Lewis and a whole stable of other world champions - but away from the ring, Kellie was struggling with her true self.
You see, she was born as Frank - and on this episode of the podcast, we talk about the journey that has taken Kellie to where she is now. It's not always an easy listen, as Kellie speaks frankly about how long it took her to accept herself - and for others to accept her as well.
But we promise, we think it's one you'll want to stick with - and that you'll remember for a long time.
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Twitter: @kelliefmaloney
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Twitter: @jack_murley
Email: jack.murley@bbc.co.uk
6/30/2019 • 29 minutes, 39 seconds
The One with John Dickinson-Lilley
On paper, the odds were stacked against John Dickinson-Lilley becoming an elite para-athlete.
From a non-sporty family and told he needed to lose a significant amount of weight to make it to the very top, John put in the hard work to become the UK's leading blind skier, winning British and European titles along the way.
But as the only gay person on the circuit, life as an elite athlete was often lonely - and it's something John talks about eloquently and openly in this powerful episode.
Also on the agenda - how taking a chance got him into sport; how he coped with retirement; and whether he sees himself as a role model.
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@JDLskier
facebook.com/blindskiracing
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@jack_murley
jack.murley@bbc.co.uk
6/21/2019 • 33 minutes, 45 seconds
The One with Nick Heath
He's an England Touch international who makes his living commentating on rugby matches around the world.
And when Nick Heath isn't doing the commentating himself, he's learning about it from the very best as the host of the brilliant 'Cue Commentator' podcast that sees him interview some of the most familiar names to ever sit behind a microphone.
He's just got back from Dublin where he was working at the Union Cup - which is Europe's largest inclusive rugby tournament - and made time in his busy schedule to talk to us about all aspects of his work.
On the agenda: backing himself to make it in the commentary game; what makes a *great* commentator: and who is on his bucket-list of folk to chat to for the upcoming series of 'Cue Commentator'.
So, if you want to hear two fellas geek out about what it takes to really make it behind the mic in the world of sport, this is the episode for you!
WANT TO FIND OUT MORE ABOUT OUR GUEST?
@nickheathsport or @cuecommentator on Twitter
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jack.murley@bbc.co.uk
@jack_murley
6/13/2019 • 41 minutes, 6 seconds
The One with Edmund Connolly
How would you fancy running out for a team called the Pride-o-saurus Rexes?
That was *almost* the name that Edmund Connolly gave to the world's first inclusive lacrosse team - but ultimately, he decided to go for the Rainbow Rexes instead.
The team had humble beginnings - with players learning the names of team-mates on their way to their first tournament - but has grown significantly, and offer a home to folks in the lacrosse world who fancy playing for a team that really values inclusivity.
He's a great chap - even if he does manage to *nearly* offend non-Welsh rugby fans within the first 10 seconds of the podcast! - and we really loved having someone so eloquent and engaging on the show.
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6/5/2019 • 23 minutes, 20 seconds
The One with Lindsay Peat
Lindsay Peat is the sort of amazing athlete who hasn't just excelled in one sport - but in a whole bucketload of them.
She represented Ireland as a youngster in football; she did the same in basketball as a full international; then played three All-Ireland Finals as a Gaelic football star.
Then, she decided to take up rugby - debuting against England in only her eighth game, and taking part in a World Cup and three Women's Six Nations since then. She's also an ambassador for this year's Union Cup in Dublin - as Europe's largest inclusive rugby tournament heads to the Emerald Isle.
We're delighted to have such an eloquent, articulate guest on the pod - and her last answer in particular is one of the most poignant we've had since we started. We love her, and we think you will as well.
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@lilypeat11
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5/31/2019 • 21 minutes, 34 seconds
The One with Proud Terriers
There's not a lot to cheer about at the moment if you're a Huddersfield Town fan - but maybe the side's inclusive supporters group will put a smile on your face.
It was founded by Ryan Mather - and is all about the philosophy that football is for everybody. So why did Ryan decide to start this LGBTQ+ supporters club - and what difference has it made in his life?
He's been talking to us about that; about his experiences of homophobia in the game; and what Huddersfield Town need to do to bounce back from a season that's been tricky ... to put it mildly!
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5/22/2019 • 16 minutes, 29 seconds
The One with Mel Reid
She's a six-time winner on the European Tour, a three-time Solheim Cup player - and a woman who has fought doggedly for equality in the sport of golf.
And at the end of last year, Britain's Mel Reid decided to open up for the first time about her sexuality when she came out publicly as gay. So, why did she do it - and what has life been like since?
We're delighted that Mel took time out from a well-earned day off to chat to the podcast - as we discuss how she got into golf, why she didn't think her article with Athlete Ally would be such a big deal, why it's important to give back to the game, and the boxset she's binged on recently ... which probably isn't what you'd expect!
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@melreidgolf
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5/9/2019 • 20 minutes, 8 seconds
The One With Keegan Hirst
No messing about here - this episode with Keegan Hirst is one of the most hard-hitting we've done since we started this podcast.
The rugby league star become the first openly gay English player back in 2016 - and in this edition of the show, we talk about how it happened. The lack of role models; the environment he was brought up in; the impact it had on his own two children; the contemplation of taking his own life - it all comes up in this show.
But there are also lighter moments - like how he had no interest in rugby as a kid; how Antony Cotton from Coronation Street fame has helped him with his 'gay education'; and why there's a video floating around of Keegan as The Rock.
So, stop reading this, and go and listen - and we think you'll find Keegan as compelling a guest as we do. What's more, he's a top bloke as well, and we're really grateful he took the time to join us.
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5/1/2019 • 26 minutes, 46 seconds
The One with the Northampton Outlaws
We'll be honest - some episodes just click, and this is one of them.
We've wanted to have the Northampton Outlaws on for a little while - and we decided the perfect time to do it was now, fresh off their triumph in the IGR Southern League.
So, we got Simon Chapman and Simon Law from the inclusive club into the studio for a really fun conversation about a whole load of things. On the agenda - how they both got involved with the team; plans for the Union Cup; training with the awesome James Haskell; and how much they ACTUALLY remember of the weekend they claimed the league championship.
They're both terrific chaps - and we loved having them on.
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4/26/2019 • 24 minutes, 54 seconds
The One with Laura Montgomery
What would you do if you wanted to play football - but couldn't find a club.
Most of us would sigh, shrug our shoulders and find another sport to try - but Laura Montgomery isn't most people.
When she decided she wanted to play the game at a higher, more organised level, she decided to co-found Glasgow City - which has gone onto become one of the most successful teams in Scotland.
Started in 1998, it has become a dominant force, winning multiple titles and cups - becoming the first Scottish team to reach the quarter-finals of the Women's Champions League in the process. And as if that wasn't enough to keep Laura busy, she's also the Head of Sales and Sponsorship at Hibernian.
We loved having Laura on - she's a fascinating, eloquent individual with so much drive and determination. A fitting guest for the 40th episode of the podcast!
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@GlasgowCityFC
@HibsOfficialFC
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4/19/2019 • 24 minutes, 15 seconds
The One with Jilly McCord
She wowed viewers across the UK as she made her way to the final of Masterchef - but before that, Jilly McCord excelled in a very different way.
The Scottish schoolteacher represented her country on the rugby field - playing at the 2006 World Cup and eventually captaining the national side - and combined it with life as a school-teacher. And all of that was BEFORE the whirlwind of Masterchef, which took her right around the world.
So, we had plenty to talk with her about - and we really, really enjoyed having her on, talking about everything from LGBT role models to finding out you're going to skipper your country while in the Tesco carpark. And Jilly, you can make us a pasty anytime!
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4/12/2019 • 21 minutes, 4 seconds
The One with David Haigh
What's it like to be the person in charge of a football club - and not just any club, but one with the history of Leeds United?
It's a position very few people have held - but David Haigh is one of them.
During his time as a managing director at Elland Road, he championed initiatives to promote diversity and inclusion - which is something he continues to do in his current role with the FA in Cornwall, and as a key player with the local side in Penzance.
There's also another side to David, who is a prominent lawyer and human rights activist who was imprisoned in a UAE jail for 22 months - and he'll tell his own story of that time in a way that some of you may find uncomfortable to listen to. However, given the current situation in Brunei, it seemed strange not to get into that side of David's life.
Also on the agenda: the so-called 'gay day' at Leeds United; his friendship with Robbie Rogers; and how football fans can help make the game more ethical.
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Twitter: @haighdavid
Website:http://www.davidhaigh.co.uk/
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4/3/2019 • 29 minutes, 21 seconds
The One with Jack Bristow
He's the former Exeter University student who is also the European Age Group Triathlon Champion.
But Jack Bristow has also made headlines away from the sport - after successfully helping persuade its governing body to reverse a ban it introduced on LGBT athletes flying the Pride flag.
And, still in his mid-20s, Jack is determined to make sure gay sportspeople get the representation they deserve.
He's a terrific guest to have on the podcast - as we discuss being inspired by the Brownlees at the London Olympics; the financial costs of making it in the triathlon world; and exactly WHAT you may find on his Twitter feed.
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Twitter: @JackWJB94
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3/26/2019 • 24 minutes, 3 seconds
The One with Adam McCabe
He's a columnist, a podcaster - and one of the very few male footballers who came out as gay while still actively playing the game.
In fact, Adam McCabe still runs out for the Georgia Revolution in the National Premier Soccer League in the United States and is one of the most articulate, eloquent guests we've had on yet on what it's like to be closeted in sport - and his own coming out story.
Also on the agenda; how straight, cis-gendered players can be allies to LGBT team-mates; how Robbie Rogers inspired him; his childhood love for Steven Gerrard; and making the switch to asking the questions, rather than answering them!
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The Gay Footballer's Podcast: @tgfpod
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3/20/2019 • 30 minutes, 52 seconds
The One That's A Rugby Special
The Six Nations is coming to an end - so we thought it was worth taking a dip into our archives to revisit some of our top guests from the world of rugby.
So, in this episode, we're going to hear again from ...
- The iconic rugby referee Nigel Owens on how he got into officiating in the first place, and the pressure of social media.
- Verity Smith talks about life as a transgender rugby player - and some of the challenges that have come with playing the game he loves.
- Andy Smith is the co-founder of the Westcountry Wasps - so what makes a cisgendered, heterosexual man want to help start an inclusive club?
They're three fantastic guests we were delighted to have on - and a great demonstration of why rugby can be such an inclusive sport for the LGBTQ+ community.
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Verity Smith: @VeritySmith19
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3/12/2019 • 21 minutes, 13 seconds
The One with Richie Anderson
Coming out to anyone is never easy - so imagine doing it to your Sunday league football team in front of a national television audience!
It's not something your average person goes through - but Richie Anderson isn't your AVERAGE guest.
He's part of the Radio 2 Breakfast Show who, along with Zoe Ball, wakes up the nation on the UK's most-listened to radio programme. He's also the Proud Baggies patron, a football nut - and a genuinely fantastic person.
This is one of our favourite episodes yet - with topics on the agenda including raising tens of thousands of pounds for Sport Relief; BBC Radio 2's '500 Words' contest - and whether it's the Spice Girls or West Brom that can claim to be his true love!
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3/6/2019 • 31 minutes, 41 seconds
The One with Anthony Bowens
Sting vs Hollywood Hogan, Starrcade 1997.
That's when professional wrestling first got into the veins of Anthony Bowens - and, ever since, the American athlete has been captivated by this unique form of sports-entertainment. He's also one of a growing number of LGBTQ+ individuals plying their trade inside the squared circle - something that hasn't always been easy to do.
In fact, if it weren't for being a wrestler, Anthony feels he may even have come out sooner.
He's our guest on this brand-new episode of the podcast, talking about his favourite matches; being a role model for the community; the abuse he received after coming out as bisexual, then as gay; and why WWE is the ultimate goal for him.
Anthony battled through traffic to make the interview - and we're delighted he did, as it was fantastic to have him onto the show.
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3/1/2019 • 20 minutes, 50 seconds
The One with David Hill
David Hill's Paralympic career began in the pool at the Games in Athens when he was just fifteen years old. It ended more than a decade later - after twelve years of medals at both a World and European level.
We're really grateful he's taken the time to join us for a brand new episode of the podcast - and spoken so honestly about why hiding his sexuality had such an impact on his performance in the pool, and how he got past that. Also on the agenda - the growth of para-sport; his work as a mentor and coach; and how he relaxes by making furniture!
Even as a proud Cornishman, this is one Devonian we were happy to have on the show - and we think you'll really like him.
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2/24/2019 • 18 minutes, 53 seconds
The One with Kristen Fraser
By day, she works as an engineer in offshore drilling.
But Kristen Fraser is also one of Scotland's leading boxers - the first professional female from the country, and the first to ever win a Commonwealth title. So, not a bad record for someone who first started getting into the sport at a time when it was illegal for women to step into the ring!
She's now targeting a bid for a world championship - and, alongside her wife, is preparing to become a parent - and we're delighted she took some time to join us on the podcast.
On the agenda - her memories of her first fight; being a role model to the LGBTQ+ community; getting a work-life balance right; and why Katie Taylor is such an inspiration.
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Twitter: @KristenTFE
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2/19/2019 • 17 minutes, 13 seconds
The One with Clare Balding
Clare Balding.
If you've watched or listened to ANY sport over the past 25 years, you'll know all about her work.
And if you've been living under a rock, the CV tells its own story - Olympic Games, Paralympics, Winter Olympics, Crufts, Trooping the Colour; and all of that in addition to be a best-selling author and campaigner for better coverage of women's sport.
We're absolutely chuffed to welcome Clare to the podcast - as she talks about how she got her start in broadcasting; how she reflects on her 'coming out' story; and whether she'd have done anything differently. Also on the agenda - Bert Le Clos; the event she's proudest of covering; and what's next for her.
This is one of our favourite episodes yet - and we're so grateful Clare could take the time to join us.
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Twitter: @clarebalding
Website: http://www.clarebalding.co.uk/
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2/15/2019 • 20 minutes, 24 seconds
The One with Amazin LeThi
She was inspired to get into bodybuilding by Arnold Schwarzenegger - and now, Amazin LeThi uses her platform to promote messages of inclusion, both through her own foundation and her work as an ambassador for Athlete Ally.
She's our guest on a brand-new episode of the podcast - as we talk about why bodybuilding was the sport she was drawn to in the first place; some of the discrimination she originally encountered in it; how perceptions of women in sport are changing; and who the role models are that she admires now.
She's a really perceptive, considered guest - and we're grateful she could find some time to chat with us. Not only that, but she's the first power-lifter we've had on the programme!
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Twitter: @amazinlethi
Website:http://www.amazinlethifoundation.org/
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2/12/2019 • 18 minutes, 3 seconds
The One with the London Royals
There are plenty of special things about being part of a sport club.
The friendships you make, the competitions you win, the experiences you get - they're all part and parcel of it. But for people from the LGBT community who have experienced homophobic or transphobic abuse in sport, finding a club where you actually fit in is extra special.
It's why the London Royals Hockey Club are all about inclusivity - and Tom Simpson, Beth Bennett and Sarah Nottle all have first-hand experience of the difference the club has made in their lives.
They're three brilliant guests - and on the agenda is everything from the Gay Games to the best way to deal with a honking keeper's kit!
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Twitter: @LondonRoyalsHC
Website: www.londonroyals.co.uk
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2/8/2019 • 24 minutes, 3 seconds
The One with Jo Currie
She's someone who has travelled the world, reporting on some of the biggest events in sport for the BBC.
From the Tour De France to the Hockey World Cup, Jo Currie is usually on the scene when the big sporting stories are happening - and, if that wasn't enough, she's also one of the nicest people in broadcasting.
She joins us to talk about how she got started in sports journalism; about LGBT representation in the media; who she looks up to in broadcasting; and a cringeworthy encounter at Sports Personality of the Year.
She's absolutely fab - and we hope you love her as much as we do.
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Twitter: @JoCurrie
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2/3/2019 • 24 minutes, 9 seconds
The One with OutdoorLads
On this episode, we're swapping coming out for getting out and about!
OutdoorLads runs activities for gay, bi and trans men across the UK - with activities that range from hiking to sailing! Liam Russell from the group joins us to talk more about that; the importance of staying active when it comes to mental health; and pushing himself further than he realised he could.
He's a really engaging chap - and we're grateful he's taken the time to join us!
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1/29/2019 • 13 minutes, 21 seconds
The One with Hudson Taylor
For Hudson Taylor, it all started with a sticker on a headgear.
The decision to wear a Pride symbol on his wrestling uniform drove the straight amateur wrestler from the United States to set up one of the world's largest organisations supporting LGBT individuals in sport - Athlete Ally.
He joins us to talk about the difference that Athlete Ally is making; how straight sportspeople can be allies - and how he manages to relax in his down-time. Hudson is a really interesting, thought-provoking guest - and we're really grateful to have him on the show.
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1/18/2019 • 16 minutes, 23 seconds
The One with Sophie Cook
If you're a fan of AFC Bournemouth, you've probably seen Sophie Cook's work.
She spent years snapping photos of Eddie Howe's side as the Cherries' official club photographer - but she has also had a story of her own to tell, as the first transgender person to ever work in the Premier League.
We're delighted to have Sophie on the podcast - talking about her love of photography; the bizarre place she had what she calls her 'epiphany about being trans'; and the reaction of the AFC Bournemouth squad to her news.
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Twitter: @sophiecooktalks
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1/18/2019 • 19 minutes, 25 seconds
The One with Fred Rosser
Fred Rosser is a professional wrestler who made history when he became the first openly gay active member of the WWE roster. Wrestling is still his passion - but equal to it is his desire to tackle hatred and bigotry in all forms through his #blockthehate movement.
He joins us to talk about when he first started to love wrestling; the reaction of the WWE roster when he came out; the difference of having positive LGBTQ+ role models; his passion for social activism - and some of his favourite matches.
Plus, he tells us why he's keen to come to Britain to get involved with any Pride events happening in the UK.
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Twitter: @realfredrosser
Email: info@realfredrosser.com
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1/14/2019 • 19 minutes, 31 seconds
The One with Caroline Matthews
Caroline Matthews loved playing basketball - so when she was told she had to stop for health reasons, you'd think that would be the end of her journey in sport.
Instead, Caroline went on to become one of the biggest names in British wheelchair basketball and a two-time Paralympian - who has also been recognised in the New Year's Honours.
She's a fantastic guest - and says her wife is her rock who helped to make it all possible.
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Caroline Matthew: @cazza_15
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1/9/2019 • 14 minutes, 48 seconds
The One with the Best Bits of 2018
We're taking a Christmas break on the podcast - so, to tide us over into 2019, here's a special extended edition with some of the most memorable guests we've had on this year.
It features people from around the world, in all sports and from all walks of life - and don't forget, these are just a few of our edited highlights, with loads more sitting in the archive for you to listen to whenever you'd like.
From us, a MASSIVE thank you to all of you for the support you've given us in 2018 - as we know we wouldn't even exist without it. We couldn't do it without you!
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12/22/2018 • 36 minutes, 48 seconds
The One with Kate Howey
She's a world champion and Olympic medallist - who had the honour of carrying the British flag at the opening ceremony of the Olympic Games in Athens in 2004.
It's fair to say not much phases judo star Kate Howey - but last month, she did something she'd never done before by writing publicly about her sexuality for the first time. It's something she says took her thirty years to do - and we're delighted she's agreed to speak with us for her first broadcast interview since then.
Also on the agenda - how she got into the sport; avoiding bad food over Christmas; and how to avoid tripping when you're carrying your country's flag.
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Kate Howey: @khoweymbe
British Judo: @britishjudo OR www.britishjudo.org.uk
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12/19/2018 • 15 minutes, 26 seconds
The One with Thomas Haywood
How does a young man from Scotland go on to become one of the most respected names in European baseball?
That's exactly the journey that Thomas Haywood has been on over the past few years - and it's something that's taken him to all sorts of places as one of the top umpires on the European circuit.
He's our guest on this episode of the podcast - as we look at how he got his start in the game; his experiences of being LGBT in baseball; and the work he does with the charity OutdoorLads.
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Baseball Softball UK - baseballsoftballuk.com/ @bsuk
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12/17/2018 • 24 minutes, 18 seconds
The One with Aslie Pitter
At the end of November, Stonewall FC stepped out at Wembley to play Wilberforce Wanderers as part of this year's #RainbowLaces campaign.
It's something that Stonewall FC founder member Aslie Pitter would have struggled to imagine when he started playing football as a youngster. In this episode, he tells us about some of the racism and homophobia that he received starting out in the sport - and how he managed to overcome it.
Also on the agenda - the emotions he felt attending the match at Wembley, and why he doesn't put 'Pitter MBE' on the back of his shirt!
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Aslie Pitter MBE: @bendelmage
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12/11/2018 • 23 minutes, 12 seconds
The One with Thomas Page McBee
Our guest today is an award-winning author, a journalist, an advocate - undoubtedly one of the smartest men we've ever spoken to - and the first trans man to ever box at Madison Square Garden.
Thomas Page McBee stepped into the ring at the most hallowed venue in combat sports for charity - and used his own experiences learning the art of boxing to examine stereotypes and perceptions about gender and masculinity.
His new book Amateur looks at those issues, as Thomas details his own his journey - and we do the same in this podcast.
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Twitter: @ThomasPageMcBee
Website: www.thomaspagemcbee.com
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