Welcome to The Trial of David Foster, where Lauren and Chan examine this Canadian songwriter & producer’s marriages and misdeeds. Listen as the gals dive into David’s five marriages to discuss his relationship patterns and the toll it has taken on those in his orbit. Join Lauren and Chan as the judge, jury, and executioner regarding this man’s bad behavior, complete with the gals’ take on why David hated being on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills + why they think he and Yolanda Hadid (wife #4) split. Finally, listen in as  Lauren and Chan discuss the interview where Katherine McPhee (wife #5) tells the tale of her and David’s love. Buckle in, because this is a trial you won’t want to miss. Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Today we are so excited to have Dr. Jonathan Zelken on the podcast. Dr. Zelken is a board certified plastic surgeon based in Newport Beach, CA. After receiving his undergraduate degree in biology from Cornell University, he continued on to a degree in medicine at Tufts University, completed his plastic surgery training at Johns Hopkins Hospital, and then completed a microsurgery fellowship in Taiwan to further perfect his technique. Dr. Zelkin has learned from the best of the best to become one of the country’s leading plastic surgeons, specializing in facelifts, facial contouring, and a wide variety of plastic surgery techniques since opening his practice in 2016. Dr. Zelken's website and Instagram account are full of stunning before and after photos, featuring his flawless work and attention to the smallest of details on a wide variety of procedures. As the facelift expert of Newport Beach, Dr. Zelken is making his patients look like they are aging backwards, and we are so excited to hear his thoughts on all things related to plastic surgery. Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Lauren and Chan discuss their conflicting emotions regarding Ballerina Farm + why Hannah’s home childbirth followed by immediate Mrs. World preparation has a lot of followers feeling triggered, and potentially for valid reasons. Chan shares her favorite new online discovery of a very extreme fandom for Timotheé Chamalet. The gals discuss Queen Elizabeth’s alleged anger about Harry and Meghan giving their daughter the most clout chasing royal name "Lilibet Diana" and revisit the tense moment recounted in Spare when Harry asked for permission to propose to Meghan. Finally, Lauren and Chan discuss the new episode of RHOBH, including Kyle's infatuation with Morgan Wade and the very important conversation about mental health shared by Kyle, Sutton, and Crystal.  TRIGGER WARNING: This episode contains discussion of suicide and eating disorders. Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

TRIGGER WARNING: This episode discusses child abuse, murder, and rape.  Join Lauren and Chan on a deep dive covering the life of Gypsy Rose Blanchard. As a victim of Münchausen Syndrome by Proxy, Gypsy Rose’s experienced a lifetime of abuse and mistreatment at the hand of her mother, Dee Dee Blanchard. Listen as Chan takes Lauren through Gypsy Rose’s childhood and lays the foundation for how Dee Dee spun an intricate web of lies that kept Gypsy Rose under her complete control. Hear how Gypsy Rose’s plans of escape turned into murder as the only way out of her horrific circumstances. This story seems too crazy to be true, but it is ultimately a tale of survival for Gypsy Rose Blanchard, who is truly free for the first time in her life. Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week the gals discuss: Alexis Bellino from RHOC and John Janssen are Instagram official, and Lauren and Chan have so many thoughts on this pairing #housewivesgrifter Kristen Taekman from RHONYC is on the newest Real Housewives Ultimate Girl’s Trip, and she has made a few statements that have Lauren and Chan scratching their heads. Take a trip down memory lane to her husband Josh’s less than upstanding past and hear where the math isn’t mathing.  Heather Durrow’s recent statements about her family’s approach to alcohol and her response to whether she has been disappointed to with her children has the gals floored.  Hear all about Lauren and Chan’s New Years resolutions and resignations, including why Chanler will never be able to pull a Pamela Anderson, why Lauren will never get a Mr. Big/Simon van Kempen moment in Cartier. Plus, hear all about Lauren’s New Year’s celebration with a very unexpected end. Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Lauren and Chan are so excited to have Madi from The Bad Broadcast on the podcast as they chat the things they know in their 30’s that they didn’t know in their 20’s.  Listen in to hear some life lessons from three Bad Broads who occasionally have it all together, including feelings about karma, the value in investing in relationships, thoughts on cutting off friendships, left swipes being as important as the right swipes, thoughts on the Carrie Bradshaw life, why your 30’s are so much better than your 20’s, the three things Madi keeps on hand at all times, and Chan’s words of warning to all 20 somethings.  Plus, enjoy some hilarious stories about Madi’s recent surprise gambling bender, the special hell that are podcast reviews, and baby name ideas. Click here to try the most magical gummies by EarlyBird CBD! Use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 20% off! Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week Lauren and Chan are joined by Kate Casey from Reality Life with Kate Casey as they dive into the fascinating world of the Mother God cult featured in the HBO docuseries “Love Has Won: The Cult of Mother God.” Hear about cult leader Amy Carlson’s beliefs, including being 19 million year old and being helped by a team of dead celebrities, led by Robin Williams. The gals discuss Mother God’s rise to power and the bizarre practices she and her followers would take part in as part of their community. This docuseries is like a slow motion disaster— you can’t believe what you are seeing, but you also can’t look away.  Lauren, Chan, and Kate also talk about their favorite reality topics: The Golden Bachelor, Sister Wives, and Paris Hilton. Hear who Kate feels is the most powerful woman in unscripted television, as well as a genius idea for a TLC spinoff show. Click here to try the most magical gummies by EarlyBird CBD! Use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 20% off! Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Lauren and Chan are back chatting the stress of longevity protocols and the hilarity of child-free adults offering parenting advice. They discuss the show Paris in Love.  Lauren has some very strong feelings about Paris’s husband and shares what gives her the biggest ick.  Lauren and Chan dive into the gems that exist in People magazine, which was so kind to check up on how Justin Timberlake is doing after his harrowing month. They chat William and Kate’s “sexy ass Gap ad” Christmas card, which leads them to chat quiet luxury vs. the obvious flex. Taylor Swift’s birthday is coming up, and Travis has some fantastic surprises in the works, and the gals have some thoughts about it. In a truly glass half full attitude, Lauren and Chan have found ways to applaud Kanye’s wife Bianca Censori’s recent style efforts. Details of Todd Chrisley’s prison stay are out and things are looking rough. Callout to Kim Kardashian, because Todd needs her help. The gals answer some recent listener questions:  ⁃Chan’s non-alcoholic wine recommendations  ⁃Lauren and Chan’s Christmas wishlists  Lauren and Chan finally discuss the trailer for the upcoming season of Vanderpump Rules, which is truly teasing some amazing drama to come. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Taylor Alison Swift has been named Time’s Person of the Year and gave an actual interview, so naturally Lauren and Chan needed to chat about it, IMMEDIATELY! Listen as the gals give their thoughts on what Taylor had to say about her preparation for The Eras Tour, her “small family business”, Kim & Kanye, creative freedom and re-recording her old music, and of course, her relationship with Travis Kelce. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Lauren and Chan chat anniversary celebrations and the unexpected horrors of living in New York. They get into their love for Oprah and the dilemma that she might be facing after her recent public appearance. The gals then break down the Golden Bachelor finale & after the final rose special. They talk about Gerry’s relationship with one of his ladies completely unraveling after a seemingly wonderful night in the fantasy suite, and why it was actually a good thing in the long run. They also chat about Gerry and his final lady racing to the televised altar in January, “because who knows how much time we have left.” After reading the Hollywood Reporter article on Gerry and seeing Gerry’s reaction over an unexpected trip, Lauren and Chan are confident that Gerry has an insufferable trait that gives them the ick in a big way. *spoiler alert: They will be talking about which senior citizen was offered the final rose* Lauren and Chan then get into the latest drama with the Markles of Montecito and the names that were revealed as allegedly commenting on Archie’s skin color. Finally, a quick moment on Morgan Wade appearing in RHOBH with Kyle! Click here to try the most magical gummies by EarlyBird CBD! Use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 20% off! Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The gals chat Taylor going straight to Kansas City and, ostensibly, into the arms of Travis Kelce after her traumatic experience in Brazil.  They discuss The Eras Tour in São Paulo, where the family of Ana Clara Benevides attended the final show in Brazil. Lauren and Chan share some insider tea about Taylor Swift’s concert preparation, and what she did differently for her last night in São Paulo. They also chat about Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, where viewers learn more about Erika and her upbringing, as well as the difference in Kyle’s friendship with Dorit vs. Sutton. Finally, Lauren and Chan talk about Real Housewives of Salt Lake City showing some surprising vulnerability and which marriage the gals are rooting for.  Click here to try the most magical gummies by EarlyBird CBD! Use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 20% off! Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week Lauren and Chan are chatting about what is happening on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, including lots of lunches and a meme-worthy moment. They discuss the lawsuit that was filed and quickly settled between Cassie and P Diddy, as well as the major red flags they have seen around P Diddy over the years. Lauren and Chan break down the WSJ article on Travis Kelce, where he just continues to impress and show why he might be exactly what Taylor needs.Finally, they discuss the tragedy at Taylor Swift’s recent show in Brazil. Click here to try the most magical gummies by EarlyBird CBD! Use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 20% off! Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Lauren and Chan talk about the recent Taylor Swift❤️‍🔥Travis Kelce moments that have set social media ablaze, as well the stark difference in Taylor’s vibe with Travis compared to her relationship with Joe. They chat the recent Vogue photo spread and article on Jeff Bezos and Alive Girl Lauren Sanchez!!! The gals dive into RHOBH to talk about the most recent episode and why this franchise reigns supreme over all the Real Housewives franchises. Finally, they chat Patrick Dempsey's reign as PEOPLE Magazine's Sexiest Man Alive in 2023. Click here to try the most magical gummies by EarlyBird CBD! Use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 20% off! Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week Lauren and Chan are breaking down the biggest moments from Bravo Con 2023: -What Kyle Richards revealed during her RHOBH panel discussion, and what recent actions from Mauricio have the gals shaking their heads.  -Who is coming through as an unlikely Tom Sandoval ally, and why we think Tom keeps showing up, despite being the franchise pariah.  -Why Bethenny’s “Reality Takedown” is more of a “Reality Raindrop.” -What is the likelihood of Heather Dubrow switching franchises, and which Housewives franchise could use a total reboot.  -How we know that a certain Housewife will not be returning for a second season. -An overview + new details from the Heather McDonald and Jeff Lewis drama Click here to try the most magical gummies by EarlyBird CBD! Use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 20% off! Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In honor of the 1989 (Taylor’s Version) release, Lauren and Chan are here to talk about the five tracks released from The Vault: “Slut!”, Say Don’t Go, Now That We Don’t Talk, Suburban Legends, and Is It Over Now? Listen as Lauren and Chan chat about their favorite lyrics, theorize song meanings, and use their detective skills to make connections with other songs from the original 1989 album. Hear how we now know that Taylor and Harry Styles weren’t just a casual couple during their 2012-2013 romance, what quality of Taylor Swift is rarely discussed but truly exists, and why Taylor Swift will never be comfortable as a woman on a yacht. This episode is for all the current and soon-to-be Swifties out there, since when Mother Taylor opens The Vault, everyone wins. 🪩🪩🪩 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week we posit an aching question: Is the Golden Bachelor, Gerry Turner, potentially too good to be true? We are then thrilled to welcome our guest Zack Peter from “No Filter By Zack Peter” to the podcast to discuss everything Real Housewives! We chat all about RHONY and why Zack would give the season a B- , Bethenny’s Reality Reckoning and what we think Bethenny is really after, and RHOBH’s unraveling marriages. We also touch on a Dorit and PK conspiracy theory, and Zack’s interview with Erika Jayne, where no topic was off-limits.  Click here to try the most magical gummies by EarlyBird CBD! Use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 20% off! To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Click here to listen on Patreon! Lauren and Chan fill us in on recent happenings, specifically the release of 1989 (Taylor’s version), and recent expensive hotel stays that did not deliver the luxury experience. Lauren and Chan dive into the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills premiere, where they chat their love for Kyle, their thoughts on Dorit and PK’s union, and the concerning observations about Erika. The gals bring some observations and potentially problematic opinions about the current state of Kyle and Mauricio’s marriage (which could double for some riveting Kyle and Mauricio fanfiction), specifically they what they think happened to push the marriage to the brink. They finish up with a quick discussion on Gwyneth Paltrow’s 73 Questions interview with Vogue.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week on the podcast Chan is sent into a tailspin at the running store, Lauren shares her unexpected bonding moment with her dad, and they both share pearls of wisdom from their mom. Chatting about celebrity divorces gets Lauren to wax philosophical about good men vs. weak men and is mentioning it all, specifically which celebrities continually disappoint, and which ones must be protected at all costs. They unpack part one of the RHONY reunion, including who was bringing their fashion A-game, which Housewives got a taste of their own medicine, and which RHONY husband the gals can’t help but love. Lauren and Chan discuss the newest episode of The Kardashians, including the questions they have for Kim and the old saying they’d like to impart on Khloe. Our favorite protein powder, Clean Simple Eats, is giving our listeners 10% off their orders! Visit cleansimpleeats.com and use code POPAPOLOGISTS at checkout for 10% off your order. To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Click here to listen! Lauren and Chan regale listeners with some of their workplace blunders, which may lead them to swear off corporate outings entirely. In a Reality TV roundup they chat The Golden Bachelor, RHONY, and RHOSLC. After a snoozefest of a second episode, episode three of The Golden Bachelor finally delivers the drama Lauren and Chan have been craving. Hear which sexy seniors they are loving, which contestant needs to zip it, and which contestant has unofficially dubbed herself Sexiest Senior Alive.  The gals then give their thoughts on the RHONY finale, the latest mean girl antics, and why Housewife parties are some of the lamest parties out there. They discuss RHOSLC, where the most recent episode teeters between cringey and bleak, and why acting like a spoiled brat is never a good look. Hear which cast members are essentially NPC’s in their eyes and the questions they have about Mary Cosby’s home.  Lauren and Chan finish up by discussing the recent Bustle feature on Gwyneth Paltrow, featuring the good, the bad, and the bullshit. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lauren and Chan chat about the latest happenings with their favorite new couple, Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce, and why they think that these two A-listers could end up going the distance.  Lauren and Chan are here to give their advice on listener questions! Listen to hear their thoughts on: -whether you should tell people you are on Ozempic -if they feel sad they don’t live in the same city as their sisters -how to get sisters to become friends -how fast is too fast to be moving on after a breakup -parenting do’s & don’ts for your 20 year old daughter -how to handle when you and your fiancé are dreaming of very different weddings -how to deal with a chronically late mother in law on your wedding day Our favorite protein powder, Clean Simple Eats, is giving our listeners 10% off their orders! Visit cleansimpleeats.com and use code POPAPOLOGISTS at checkout for 10% off your order. To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Lauren and Chan give their thoughts on the David Beckham documentary— both the truly stunning as well as the surprisingly garish. Seeing David and Victoria Beckham in their editorially controlled element was a stunning sight that may have the gals watching more soccer, ahem, football in the future. Lauren and Chan then chatted the newest episode of RHONY, which had them reversing their opinions about which cast members they were loving, and why the mean girl antics of a few Housewives really left a bad taste in their mouth. They then dug into the rumors that Mauricio Umansky may have a new woman on his arm, and why the gals are exhausted with the mental ping pong that is taking place with Mauricio and Kyle. Finally, they discussed Matthew McConaughey’s appearance on Smartness and why Chan was ready to take a cold shower after listening.  Our favorite protein powder, Clean Simple Eats, is giving our listeners 10% off their orders! Visit cleansimpleeats.com and use code POPAPOLOGISTS at checkout for 10% off your order. To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today on Patreon, Lauren and Chan chat about their one wish for Taylor Swift, and why Lauren doesn’t see Taylor and Travis giving the same vibes as her favorite couple from the 90’s. CLICK HERE TO LISTEN! The gals dive into Housewives, specifically which RHOC cast member seems to have chosen Marie Antionette as her style icon and which cast member disregarded the memo for clown makeup and a rainbow ensemble. Their jaws hit the floor when they heard Mary Cosby’s zingers on RHOSLC, and they’re both wondering which planet she arrived from. They discuss the newest episode of The Kardashians, which could have been alternately named “Kim’s Good Deeds.” Hear which sister Lauren and Chan love, and why they can’t fully ship Kris and Corey. Chan gives a wedding planning update and shares her three priories for wedding planning at this point, which unfortunately do not include a homemade balloon arch from Lauren. Finally, Lauren and Chan chat about Kyle and Mauricio, and what conversations the gals imagine Kyle and Mauricio had with their daughters in prep for the wild storylines coming next season for RHOBH. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week the gals dive into the premiere of The Golden Bachelor, including all their thoughts on the tan-skinned, 71 year old hunk Gerry and his bevy of ABC beauties. Listen along as Lauren and Chan debrief on who they think is the frontrunner and which moment made them CRINGE. They also get into all things RHONY, including their thoughts on Jenna , Brynn, and Erin. Finally they discuss Taylor attending Travis's game in NY and Kyle's chat with paparazzi at LAX. Our favorite protein powder, Clean Simple Eats, is giving our listeners 10% off their orders! Visit cleansimpleeats.com and use code POPAPOLOGISTS at checkout for 10% off your order. To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lauren and Chan are taking listeners on a deep dive that covers the rise and fall of Ruby Franke, the Utah mommy vlogger behind the former YouTube channel 8 Passengers. Before they get into the deep dive, special guests Courtney Grow and Kyle DeFord join Chan for an emergency Taylor Swift/Travis Kelce debrief, as this couple could be the uniting force that this country so desperately needs.  Lauren and Chan chat about the early days of 8 Passengers, which had 2.8 million subscribers at its peak. Subscribers would watch Ruby give parenting advice and glimpses into her family’s life.  There were definite warning signs of abuse going on behind the scenes, and Lauren and Chan discuss specific instances where it was clear that all was not well with this family.  When Ruby and her business partner/counselor Jodi Hildebrant were arrested in August 2023, former 8 Passengers fans were horrified to learn of the abuses that the Franke children had endured and were also left with many questions.  The gals discuss two people who have been victimized by Jodi Hildebrandt, which shows the damage that can be done when someone exercises tyrannical power over another. They also discuss the lingering million dollar question: Where was the father Kevin Franke when his children were enduring such abusive conditions? EarlyBird CBD is giving our listeners 20% off your order! Try the gummies we have been obsessed with at earlybirdcbd.com and use our code POPAPOLOGISTS at checkout for 20% off your order. Our favorite protein powder, Clean Simple Eats, is giving our listeners 20% their first order! Visit cleansimpleeats.com and use code POPAPOLOGISTS at checkout for 20% off your first order. Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lauren and Chan have a deep dive guaranteed to bring you back to the simpler times of the early 2000’s: the Jennifer Aniston/Brad Pitt/Angelina Jolie love triangle. Listen to hear all the details that had middle class American women everywhere captivated- the scandalous beginning of Brad and Angelina’s relationship, the tragic end of Brad and Jennifer Aniston’s marriage, and a look at Brad and Angelina’s relationship and marriage, including their *still* unsettled divorce and child custody battle.  EarlyBird CBD is giving our listeners 20% off your order! Try the gummies we have been obsessed with at earlybirdcbd.com and use our code POPAPOLOGISTS at checkout for 20% off your order. Our favorite protein powder, Clean Simple Eats, is giving our listeners 20% their first order! Visit cleansimpleeats.com and use code POPAPOLOGISTS at checkout for 20% off your first order. Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

CLICK HERE TO LISTEN! Today on Patreon, we answer listener questions. Hear our thoughts on: - Chan’s wedding plans (or lack thereof) and her current mindset about all things wedding. - how to make friends when you move somewhere new - whether a photo display or sponsored vendors are tacky at a wedding - how to grow a social media following - how to handle parents who are not supportive of living with your partner - the five cosmetic surgeries/procedures they would have if money were no object and they were guaranteed a great outcome - taking the next step with a boyfriend after three years of dating - first impressions of each other’s partners - thoughts on lab grown vs. natural diamonds Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lauren and Chan kick off this week’s episode with some criticism toward those who seem to have a little too much luxury in their DNA, the Dubrow children. It seems they have left their nouveau riche nest before gaining some life skills, and the gals have some thoughts about it. Lauren and Chan then dissect Olivia Rodrigo’s new album Guts and the songs that are allegedly about Taylor Swift. They chat about Taylor and Olivia’s falling out with the release of her first album Sour, and why Taylor’s actions may have been especially devastating to Olivia.  The gals chatted about the ever relatable Meghan Markle and her perfectly photographed visit to In-N-Out. Lauren and Chan finished the episode with a follow up discussion of Danny Masterson’s sentencing, and their utter disgust with Ashton Kutcher and Mila Kunis for providing character statements. EarlyBird CBD is giving our listeners 20% off your order! Try the gummies we have been obsessed with at earlybirdcbd.com and use our code POPAPOLOGISTS at checkout for 20% off your order. Our favorite protein powder, Clean Simple Eats, is giving our listeners 20% their first order! Visit cleansimpleeats.com and use code POPAPOLOGISTS at checkout for 20% off your first order. Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

*CLICK HERE TO LISTEN* This week on Patreon, Lauren and Chan give their takes on the upcoming season of The Bachelor, featuring the first ever Golden Bachelor. They talk about how and why the Bachelor franchise has lost its magic, and the past Bachelorette that had them captivated from day one.  Lauren & Chan  then give their thoughts on the current seasons of RHONY, RHOSLC, and RHOC. They talk about their favorite Housewives, and why Bravo might need to cycle out their cast members every few seasons. Then, the gals give their uncensored opinions on the Joe Jonas and Sophie Turner divorce, and the PR games they see happening. Lauren and Chan chat about Al Pacino and his much younger mother of his child Noor Alfallah, and why she might be playing a very smart game. Finally, Chan leads a mini deep dive of the Danny Masterson case and sentencing. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

SHOP THE "LUXURY IS IN MY DNA" MERCH DROP HERE! On today’s episode, the gals are breaking down the contentious divorce proceedings of Kevin Costner and his soon to be ex-wife Christine, as well as the trouble in paradise for Chanler’s favorite boy bander, Joe Jonas and his wife Sophie Turner.  Lauren and Chan dive into Kevin Costner’s first divorce, where ex-wife, Cindy Silva, made out like a bandit in their divorce proceedings. This explains why Kevin had an ironclad prenup with second wife Christine, which leaves her with very little in comparison. Despite her most tearful and dramatic efforts at gaining Judge sympathy and claiming their children are so used to living in luxury that it’s “in their DNA at this point” she was not granted her request of $249,000 a month in child support.  Christine is now living a nightmare, complete with a luxury 4-bedroom Montecito rental where her children have to share a bathroom with nary an ocean view in sight. The gals don’t know how she is going to get by on her $60,000 a month child support payment and are sending their thoughts and prayers. Lauren and Chan also discuss all the evidence that indicates a split between Chan’s adolescent love Joe Jonas and wife Sophie Turner is imminent. They go through the timeline of the couple’s relationship as well as the warning signs that divorce could be looming.  Our favorite protein powder, Clean Simple Eats, is giving our listeners 20% their first order! Visit CleanSimpleEats.com and use code POPAPOLOGISTS at checkout for 20% off your first order. Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

CLICK HERE TO LISTEN! This week on Patreon, we are deep diving Chan's surprise engagement in Portugal. Hear all about Chan's ring, her decision-making process to choosing the exact design, the nine months between picking a ring and waiting with baited breath for Ben to pop the question, and all the details of her romantic trip and betrothal. ❤️‍🔥 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lauren dives into Irina Shayk’s NSFW Instagram photos with a surprising photographer. This leads one to believe that she and Tom Brady are definitely no longer seeing each other. She touches on Rachel Levisses follow up interview on Bravo Tea with Jared B, where Rachel talks about how she bought into the fictional relationship fantasy that Tom Sandoval was selling. This leads to some tough love on relationships that are lacking in reassurance and commitment. Lauren then illuminates listeners into the wonder and dissonance of the Instagram account @ballerinafarm. This stunning account is what pastural ASMR dreams are made of, although there are some facts that have some feeling a little less enchanted with the fantasy life that has been shown one stunning reel at a time.  Lauren then dives into listener questions: -which unhinged conspiracy theory might actually be true -why she hasn’t gone to any Eras tour concerts -how to spice up a marriage -how many children she would like to have -what her colorist does to her hair -where to get an engagement ring -what is her favorite lip color -will she ever get filler -if she will ever do a Patreon episode on psychedelics  -how to not give an F Finally, Lauren finishes up the episode with some late-breaking celebrity stories, such as tacky VPR cast tattoos, Erika Jaynes delusions, and Kanye’s latest antics.  Don’t forget that Casita Jewelry is giving all listeners 30% off during the month of August using code POPAPOLOGISTS. Shine bright like a diamond with some of the truly stunning pieces found at casitajewelry.com Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The gals discuss Ariana Madix’s new cocktail book “Single AF Cocktails: Drinks for Bad B*tches”, which will be coming to a Barnes and Noble clearance section near you in December. This leads to Chan’s controversial take on what all VPR cast members are lacking. Lauren and Chan dive into Heather Dubrow’s comments about Ozempic, which may be on its way to be viewed the same way as botox. The gals discuss their current feelings about Ozempic, and why their opinions have done a 180 since their initial podcast discussion. Aside from some celebrities blatantly lying about how they recently lost weight, Lauren and Chan fully support the Big O. In case you missed it, Taylor Swift recently attended the wedding of longtime friend and collaborator Jack Antonoff and actress Margaret Qualley. After Taylor’s presence caused the rehearsal dinner property to resemble Coachella, Lauren and Chan considered whether the fanfare that constantly accompanies Taylor served as an irritation to the bride, or if it just added to the festivities. Lauren and Chan cannot go without a quick style analysis of Taylor’s wedding looks, as well as their approval of her surgical enhancements and her choice of beverage in her Queen of the World Era. Chan leads the way though a brief Margaret Qualley bio and her short-lived romance with Shia LeBeouf, which lead to an unexpected connection with FKA Twigs. The gals finish up the episode with Lauren’s hilarious brush with Instagram scammers, who peaked her interest with their alleged abilities to remove all of Lauren’s blockages and propel her to become the star she was meant to be.  Don’t forget that Casita Jewelry is giving all listeners 30% off during the month of August using code POPAPOLOGISTS. Shine bright like a diamond with some of the truly stunning pieces found at casitajewelry.com Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lauren recently had her eyes opened to the possibility that Taylor Alison Swift, modern poet and prophetess, has been laying Easter eggs for years that she has in fact had romances with women. The gals are not ones to jump on the conspiracy bandwagon, but the evidence to support #gaylor is compelling. Lauren gives proof to the validity of this theory through social media posts, photos, and lyrical evidence that Taylor has been showing fans all along that she is more than just a LGBTQ ally. Chan then leads a detailed explanation of the Brooklyn and Nicola Peltz Beckham wedding lawsuit and countersuit between the Peltz family and their wedding planners of nine days, Plan Design Events. Brace yourself for some truly astounding details of what goes into planning the wedding of A-list and billionaire offspring, as well as how quickly things went south.  Casita Jewelry is giving all listeners 30% off during the month of August using code POPAPOLOGISTS. Visit casitajewelry.com to see the entire collection, including Lauren and Chan’s diamond tennis bracelet.  Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Chan leads us though an explanation of the lawsuit against Lizzo, and why Lizzo’s notes app response didn’t leave the gals feeling Good As Hell 🎶 . Lauren and Chan give Lizzo some pointers on a more believable apology, because it’s About Damn Time for taking accountability. As if they needed another reason to love Taylor Swift, Lauren and Chan discuss the six-figure bonuses that Eras truck drivers were given last week, any why these bonuses warm their hearts more than Kris Jenner’s “church” ever will. Chan then touches on Justin and Sophie Trudeau announcing their separation (not to be confused with President Macron of France 🇫🇷), and which superstar flirtation they can get behind. Finally, the gals give a quick rundown on the Taylor Swift vs. Kim and Kanye feud for anyone living under a rock over the past 5 years, and why they are ✨Enchanted ✨ with Dave Portnoy’s take on Taylor Swift. Casita Jewelry is giving all listeners 30% off during the month of August using code POPAPOLOGISTS. Shop now at www.casitajewelry.com ✨ The Pop Apologists $500 shopping spree giveaway is open until August 15! To enter, post a link to your favorite Pop Apologists episode, why you love the podcast on your Instagram stories, and tag @popapologists. Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

CLICK HERE TO LISTEN! This week on Patreon, we celebrate Chan getting a well deserved promotion at work! At Lauren’s insistence, Chan marked the occasion by treating herself to some quiet luxury from 5th Avenue. We briefly consider changing the name of the podcast to “Liquor Talk” after becoming Morgan Wallen fans. This idea is quickly scrapped after making two very important important considerations. Chan just finished Jessica Simpson’s memoir Open Book, and we have some thoughts about Jessica and John Mayer’s on and off relationship in the early 2000’s. We discuss what we would really like to see on RHONY instead of the fake nonsense drama that is continually featured on Real Housewives. Finally, we share our opinions about the Kardashian’s and Jenners’s “evolving aesthetics” and why we feel rage over their years of gaslighting everyone. Tap below to hear it all: CLICK HERE TO LISTEN! Head to casitajewelry.com to get any piece of jewelry 30% off during the month of August using code POPAPOLOGISTS The Pop Apologists $500 shopping spree giveaway is open until August 15! To enter, post a link to your favorite Pop Apologists episode, why you love the podcast on your Instagram stories, and tag @popapologists Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today’s deep dive is a double feature: the love story of not just one, but two of our US Presidents and their wives. This episode focuses very little on politics and a lot on love. No matter which side of the aisle you find yourself, buckle in and enjoy these two love stories. Listen in to hear all about how Barack and Michelle Obama met, fell in love, endured eight years as the First Family, and found each other once again outside of the White House. Next, hear all about Donald and Melania Trump’s love story, which has the common thread of enduring harsh criticism and media speculation, all the while remaining by each other’s sides.  Lauren and Chan have a fantastic announcement! Casita Jewelry is one of Lauren and Chan’s favorite jewelry brands, and they are so excited that Casita Jewelry is the August sponsor for Pop Apologists! Head to casitajewelry.com to get any piece of jewelry 30% off during the month of August using code POPAPOLOGISTS The Pop Apologists $500 shopping spree giveaway is open until August 15! To enter, post a link to your favorite Pop Apologists episode, why you love the podcast on your Instagram stories, and tag @popapologists. Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

While the normal episode is coming out a day late this week, the gals were not going to leave listeners hanging! Enjoy this episode with the not only a Q&A from Lauren, but also some riveting storytelling from the frosting on the Bledsoe family cinnamon roll, the one and only Wyatt Grow!Listen as Wyatt regales Lauren and Chan with two riveting tales from David the Unicycler, a Nantucket staple, one of which includes a very famous face. Lauren then gives some advice from listener questions: What’s a good side hustle idea for a recently single mom? When is a good time for someone to try Ozempic? How to tell in-laws that you need some space? What do you say when your sister goes overboard with lip fillers? How do you handle it when it feels like your life has fallen apart? Lauren then finished out the episode by answering some quick listener questions: An unexpected Puerto Rico girl’s trip itinerary Her take on manifesting Her favorite book Her favorite gift to give a friend How many children she would like to have and what her timeline is looking like Is a move to New York City in the future? Lauren and Chan have a fantastic announcement! Casita Jewelry is one of Lauren’s favorite jewelry brands, and they are so excited that Casita Jewelry is the August sponsor for Pop Apologists!  Head to casitajewelry.com to get any piece of jewelry 30% off during the month of August using code POPAPOLOGISTS The Pop Apologists $500 shopping spree giveaway is open until August 15! To enter, post a link to your favorite Pop Apologists episode, why you love the podcast on your Instagram stories, and tag @popapologists Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lauren and Chan chat about another misstep by the Montecito Markles, as reports have come out detailing one of the more recent examples of the couple’s entitled behavior, this time being their request to join President Joe Biden and Dr. Jill on AIR FORCE ONE following the Queen’s funeral. Their requests were declined, as one cannot just hitch a ride with the President, Sussexes or not. This blunder serves as a reminder that maybe the Bidens are not as Team Sussex as the Markles might hope, despite Meghan thinking that Dr. Jill had sent her cloaked messages of support in the form of Oscar De La Renta fashion choices. The gals then dive into the persistent rumors that there is trouble in paradise for Harry and Meghan on both the financial and relationship fronts. As most of their business deals have not panned out, and they have not become Oprah-level dignitaries, they seem to be at a crossroads. Lauren and Chan eagerly await the return of Meghan’s Instagram and are ready to click on her Reward Style links, should that blessed day ever come. They leave the road from Montecito and take a much darker road to Gilgo Beach, where Chan leads a deep dive on the Gilgo Beach Murders and the recent arrest of Rex Heuermann, a married father of two and *gasp* architect. From being an unsolved case that plagued Long Island, learn how investigators cracked the cold case using cell phone data, new DNA testing, and a major tip from the “handler” of one of the murder victims. This case is absolutely horrifying, and serves as a chilling reminder that there are people out there who have secret double lives.  The Pop Apologists $500 shopping spree giveaway is open until August 15! To enter, post a link to your favorite Pop Apologists episode, why you love the podcast on your Instagram stories, and tag @popapologists.  Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The gals give their thoughts on Raquel Leviss going back to her birth name of Rachel, and why it might do her some to good to lay low for another 3-6 months before returning to the scene as wholesome Rachel. Lauren tells Chan about a recent drunken night where she and Kagen watched the 2020 Taylor Swift documentary on Netflix. In a moment of true marital bliss, Kagen saw the light and suggested that he and Lauren go to one of Taylor’s concerts. It was quite possibly the easiest “yes!” of Lauren’s life, second only to saying yes to Kagen’s marriage proposal. Lauren and Chan dig into the newest season of The Kardashians, specifically Kim and Kourtney’s feud that reached a fever pitch after Kourtney’s wedding. The gals discuss why Kim feels an extra level of competition with Kourtney and why she can’t take joy in Kourtney’s happiness. Lauren and Chan aren’t fighting over Italian weddings and Dolce and Gabbana campaigns, but they can relate to the sister strife that comes when when they both want to have their own identities and individual brands. Regardless, Lauren and Chan agree that family is their top priority, which doesn’t always seem to be the case for the Kardashians when they get a fantastic business opportunity. Finally, Lauren and Chan discuss the mysterious case of Carlee Russell, the woman who disappeared without a trace after allegedly seeing a toddler wandering on the side of the highway, only to return home 48 hours later. Mainstream media is giving one set of facts, but the detectives at TikTok are painting an entirely different picture. The $500 shopping spree giveaway is open until August 15th! Enter by posting an Instagram story that tags @popapologists and contains a link to your favorite episode of the podcast.  Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Pop Apologists has received 3 million downloads, so it was time for Lauren and Chan to celebrate with a trip to Guana Island! After hearing about the relaxed and luxurious all-inclusive experience, it is easy to see why Lauren (and now Chan!) love this island so much. In a true stroke of luck, one of their follow vacationers had some Nashville celebrity tea, and the gals heard all about it. Prepare yourself for funny stories about Taylor Swift and her mom Andrea, as well as wholesome stories about Keith Urban and Nicole Kidman that will only increase your love for the couple. Chan shares her annoyance with Lauren’s Serena Joy energy toward her vacation outfit planning, e.g. naked dresses, and Lauren gives her reasoning for encouraging a more country club casual look. In the end, the gals took a note from Taylor Swift and packed fits to make the whole place ✨shimmer✨, at least for a few minutes, before changing back into their more comfortable linen and gingham attire.  The gals then discuss the text messages between Jonah Hill and his ex-girlfriend Sarah Brady. The misogynistic ways that Jonah requests Sarah to behave in the name of “boundaries” is giving them serious incel vibes and serves as a major word of caution for anyone who has a partner that tries to dim their light because it makes them insecure. Lauren and Chan bring other perspectives into the discussion, such as House in Habit’s defense of Jonah Hill, where she uses Simone Biles level mental gymnastics to spin Jonah’s behavior into “maintaining healthy boundaries” and somehow paints Sarah Brady as the problem. For anyone wondering where Lauren and Chan have gotten some of their best looks, you’re in luck! The gals have their Amazon storefront ready, so visit this Amazon link for direct access to some of their must-haves: https://amzn.to/46EMCbc Pop Apologists is doing another $500 shopping spree giveaway! Now through August 15th you can enter by posting an Instagram story that tags @popapologists and contains a link to your favorite episode of the podcast. Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today is a very dark day for the Pop Apologists after learning the shattering news that Kyle Richards and Mauricio Umansky, the lighthouse and beacon of marital goals, may be coming to an end. Kyle and Mauricio, who came from nothing and married for true love, and built an amazing life with their four daughters, may be headed for divorce. After news broke that Kyle and Mauricio had allegedly separated, the gals did a deep dive to examine what could have led this power couple to be on truly shaky ground. Lauren and Chan piece together information from @facereality16 and @igfamousbydana to paint a picture of this travesty with some serious sleuthing, one instagram post at a time. Unfortunately for all of us, it looks like when there was smoke, there was also fire. Kyle and country singer Morgan Wade have been posting about each other for over a year, and it’s looking like much more than a friendship. From matching tattoos to matching rings, all signs are pointing to Kyle and Morgan being together. Morgan’s lyrics “You’ve got a secret, I want to keep it” seem to be pointing right to our Housewife. The gals revisit the chilling prediction that psychic Allison Dubois gave Kyle in 2010, when she told Kyle that Mauricio would never emotionally fulfill her, but she would stay with him and he would take care of her. While they are now reevaluating everything they’ve ever known about love, there are some serious questions to be asked, specifically, what led to Kyle and Mauricio’s marriage being on life support? The gals share conspiracy theories on what they think happened and what is next for the beloved couple.  The one spot of sunshine in this episode is our July giveaway announcement! Lauren and Chan are giving away a $500 shopping spree to one lucky listener! To enter, simply tag @popapologists and share your favorite podcast episode on your instagram stories with a link to the episode. Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week’s episode starts off with a bang with the gals revisiting two separate concerts they have ruined for their mother Deb, including the worst thing Chan has ever done at the tender age of 16. The gravity of injustice Chan put her mother through during what should have been an evening of joy still renders her speechless 11 years later.  After watching Titanic with her husband, Kagen, Lauren is worried that her marriage has also hit an iceberg and is now sinking, since Kagen is convinced that Lauren wouldn’t jump off a life boat and go back to the Titanic for him, a la Rose and Jack.  The gals talk about their hall passes, what needs to happen for the hall pass to be green lit (hint: it’s very different for men and women), and whether Chan’s hall pass was accidentally used last year.  Their favorite grifters are the subject of a scathing Wall Street Journal article called Harry and Meghan Produce a Royal Flop: Themselves. They discuss some truly tacky behavior from H&M, and issue yet another plea for the type of content the people are actually interested in seeing from the Sussexes. The gals give their thoughts on Taylor Swift declining Meghan Markle’s handwritten invitation to appear on the Archetypes podcast through a representative and why Taylor’s loyalties likely lie across the pond with Prince William.  Finally, Lauren and Chan weigh in on Taylor Swift’s plea to Swifties to leave John Mayer alone and immediately plays the song Dear John during her concert in preparation for Speak Now (Taylor’s version) coming out next month.  Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today we take on the seminal task of dissecting the life and lovers of Natalie Portman. We take our listeners on a journey, from the moment Natalie was discovered in a pizza parlor as a child through her rise to fame as the esteemed Hollywood actress and Oscar winner we know her as today. More interestingly, however, we pull out a magnifying glass on the slew of relationships and pen pals that have left their mark on Natalie's beguiling heart. This includes (but is not limited to) her torrid romance with Gael Garcia Bernal that ended in her flying to Argentina to confront him and his mistress when she got word that he was cheating with a co-star. We dig into the cringe-y emails between Natalie and Jonathan Safran Foer, who was so taken with their Gmail thread that he LEFT HIS WIFE FOR NATALIE, mistakingly assuming that he was participating in a requited love. Friends, Natalie's life is one of earnest intelligence and sexual fervor, and we lead you through it with no detail spared. So this Wednesday, we invite you to pour a cocktail, get cozy, and buckle in for THE LIFE AND LOVERS OF NATALIE PORTMAN. MERCH IS HERE! Click here to check out our limited drop of Work Soft hoodies and hats. Get yours before they're gone! To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

There is some exciting news on the business end of the podcast, and Lauren and Chan are thrilled to join 58 Ember as their new podcasting network! Lauren talks her newfound love for TikTok, and why its users are a unique brand of unhinged. Hear some of their favorite comments from their TikTok videos. The gals also give an assessment on a review that calls them Pick Me Girls and even break out Urban Dictionary to consider the accusation. They then discuss the inception of Kim Kardashian’s launch into fame with supporting players Ray J and Kris Jenner. The narrative accepted by many versus the alleged facts are very different and darker than they originally thought. Lauren & Chan also break down Kanye West’s problematic, misogynistic 46th birthday party, and Chan gives her family friendly hopes for his next birthday celebration. Finally, hear all their thoughts on Tom Girardi’s mental competence and Erica’s role in the deceit.  MERCH IS HERE! Click here to check out our limited drop of Work Soft hoodies and hats. Get yours before they're gone! To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lauren shares her philosophy on why she sold her wedding dress and why it’s time to normalize selling wedding dresses. Chan discusses adventures in camping as a New York City resident. After hearing Lauren’s unshackled thoughts on the Vanderpump Rules reunion part two last week, it’s Chan’s turn to give her take. The gals get into Taylor Swift and Matty Healy’s breakup and the purpose they believe Matty played in Taylor's life. They discuss Natalie Portman’s husband, Benjamin Millipied, having an affair with a 25 year old climate activist and discuss some hard truths about men who have character and fidelity flaws. Finally, they cover upcoming travel mini episodes and the two podcasts that they are loving right now! ***If you love this podcast, please hit follow or subscribe! Share your favorite episodes on your Instagram stories! Help us grow! MERCH IS HERE! Click here to check out our limited drop of Work Soft hoodies and hats. Get yours before they're gone! To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

PLEASE SHARE AND INCLUDE THIS EPISODE ON YOUR IG STORIES. This episode was originally for our Patreon, but I want everyone to hear the life lessons we are all seeing in VPR Scandoval Reunion Part 2. The only thing I ask is that you please share this episode and pay it forward. Help spread the word about men like Tom Sandoval and our lil pod we work so hard on. 🫶🏻 Disclaimer: I think Jordan Peterson says a lot of profound things but has also said many misguided things so don't @ me. No one knows everything and people make mistakes ✌🏻 Link to my favorite JBP lecture, Reality & the Sacred, that changed my life. MERCH IS HERE! Click here to check out our limited drop of Work Soft hoodies and hats. Get yours before they're gone! To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The gals are so excited to have Victoria from J. Brooks Jewelers joining the podcast today to talk about all things fine jewelry. Listen and learn, because Victoria knows exactly what to look for in a fine jewelry purchase and has her finger on the pulse of all things trending in jewelry right now. Today we cover: The real difference between a high quality jeweler compared to online low priced retailers The reasons why a jewelry piece online might be priced much lower than similar items… it’s not always because you’re getting a great deal Victoria walks Lauren and Chan through exactly what people should be looking for in a diamond and what will start altering the visual quality of their piece Why J. Brooks Jewelers are so particular about the cut of a diamond Engagement ring trends: Lab grown vs. natural diamonds Instagram giving everyone diamond dysmorphia  The difference between natural diamonds, lab grown diamonds, and moissanite The cash vs. trade resale value on diamonds The best non-engagement ring investment piece someone can buy The best watch brands that hold their value All about the J. Brooks Bridal Collection The difference between gold, gold plated, and gold vermeil The investment value of quality jewelry pieces over quantity The history of the Chan chain necklace The history behind J. Brooks jewelers 2023 fine jewelry trends J. Brooks and Pop Apologists have partnered up for a fantastic giveaway! One winner will receive $1,000 to spend at J. Brooks! Listen to the episode and head to our Instagram account for all the details. This episode is brought to you by J Brooks Jewelers and Pop Apologists. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Big news: Lauren has finally watched a forbidden movie from her childhood memories and it has taken her by storm. Join Lauren as she goes on the journey of the movie Indecent Proposal… the story of a couple swept up in the heat of passion and one-dimensional gender roles.  *No spoilers given for this 30 year old movie* The gals discuss another couple swept up by the heat of passion- newly engaged couple Jeff Bezos and Lauren Sanchez! Hear all about their forbidden love through text messages (with a dramatic reading courtesy of Kagen) and the Lauren/mermaid hybrid currently attached to the front of Jeff’s 500 foot yacht. They eagerly await Lauren Sanchez’s Masterclass for single women everywhere in attracting billionaire booksellers. Lauren & Chan then discuss the cult-like fervor that Tracy Anderson devotees are willing to give the internet and why this hits a nerve with Chan. Lastly, if you love Pop Apologists, please share it! Tell your friends, your neighbors, and anyone who is around! MERCH IS HERE! Click here to check out our limited drop of Work Soft hoodies and hats. Get yours before they're gone! To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A nostalgia ep! In honor of Mother's Day, we are chatting all the lessons Deb taught us as kids growing up. But before we dig into Lessons from the Book of Deb, we cover some hot topics in pop culture including swirling rumors that Joe cheated on Taylor, Scandoval updates, and Harry & Meghan having dinner with Gwyneth Paltrow & Brad Falchuck. MERCH IS HERE! Click here to check out our limited drop of Work Soft hoodies and hats. Get yours before they're gone! To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

MERCH IS HERE! Click here to check out our limited drop of Work Soft hoodies and hats. Get yours before they're gone! As if you needed another reason to rejoice, the pop culture drought has ended! That’s right, we have some hot topics to discuss today: Alex Cooper having Gwyneth on Call Her Daddy The Hollywood insider gossip we are dying to know King Charles’s coronation and Meghan’s casual, unplanned hike  Taylor Swift’s new romance with Matty Healy Scandoval updates Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Join us today as we do a deep dive into the horrific case of Lori Vallow, who is currently on trial in Idaho for the murder of her two children, JJ and Tylee and conspiracy to commit murder of her husband Chad Daybell’s first wife, Tammy Daybell.  We discuss how this seemingly typical mother of three became entangled in religious extremism and end of days fringe groups, which led to delusions of being an exalted being who is tasked with removing the dark spirits that have taken over bodies of loved ones, and leading the 144,000 to the second coming. TW: This episode discussed the gruesome details of murder, specifically the murder of children. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We discuss Sophia Richie’s wedding, the leaked letter from Meghan Markle and King Charles, Taylor Swift papped 3x in NYC, Blake Lively’s lack of a stylist and our, The Great Unfollowing (TM Chanler Bledsoe), VPR, & Savannah Chrisley’s troublesome Southwest flight. To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week the gals catch up with some of pop culture’s hot topics: Coachella: where people wait two hours for gross nachos and you can’t find a port-a-potty anywhere. Megan King helped Lauren’s Coachella FOMO evaporate with an all to real account of the hellscape that is a music festival.  Princess Kate’s “deep regret” and the real reason why Meghan isn’t attending the King’s coronation next month.  Kravis’s wedding special on Hulu, which had some highs (gorgeous photos and a fantastic yacht) and some lows (impersonal toasts “You guys are the best” and MGK’s performance). Why Leonardo DiCaprio needs to pick a lane: Is he saving the environment with Greta Thunburg or rocking a gold chain at Coachella? To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We sit down to dissect and mourn the dissolution of Taylor Swift and Joe Alwyn, followed by the second part of our interview with our sister, Courtney Grow. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today we sit down with our beloved sister, Courtney, to chat about the importance of maintaining a sense of self and identity while raising kids. Courtney shares her fertility journey and the wisdom she wishes she had had during her years struggling to get pregnant and then white-knuckling through her three pregnancies. We chat the importance of putting energy into your relationship with your partner while raising young children and how clear priorities can help set a foundation of peace in the home. Next week we will be back with part two of our conversation on all things bouncing back after giving birth, fitness, and nutrition. To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A mini deep dive on the great trial of 2023: Gwyneth Paltrow vs. Terry Sanderson. Listen in for all the details on how the Oscar winner prevailed in her fight to defend her good name last week in a Park City court room. Our full episode this week will come out on Thursday, so please enjoy this mini deep dive in the meantime! To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You absolutely NEED to listen to this episode if you ever book a vacation. We cover: Why would someone book a vacation with a travel advisor rather than booking online themselves? What to look for when planning an African safari  Where to get the best bang for your buck Whether it’s a good time to travel to Asia, as well as which countries have lesser known experiences Luxury all-inclusive resorts The best timeline for booking a hotel How to plan a trip to Europe, especially Italy, when the prices are higher than they have ever been Distinctions between Belmond, Aman, and Auberge properties Lesser known luxury vacation options and experiences Finding good deals in Greece Options for families who are traveling on a budget To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lauren and Chan talk about Taylor Swift’s Eras Tour, Vanderpump Rules updates, The Crown season 6, horrific true crime stories, the lawsuit against Gwyneth, and Lauren’s travels to Guana Island. To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Chanler's desperate search for fresh ranch dressing, a debrief on Ashley Graham & Hugh Grant at the Oscar's, and our review of staying at Blackberry Farm. 👩🏼‍🌾 To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Uncovering everything that has come to light in the past 48 hours about the cheating scandal that has rocked the nation. We discuss key insights from Stassi Shroeder's podcast as well as Kristen Doute's most recent episode. Finally, we chat Lisa's appearance on WWHL and other rumors swirling around the VPR dark web. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A full deep dive on the VPR scandal that has shaken the nation to its core followed up by a break down of The People & Selena Gomez vs. Hailey Bieber. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today we are deep diving into the many paramours of eternally enigmatic Angelina Jolie. Listen along as we break down her early relationships, including living with her boyfriend at the tender age of 14. We cover Angie's torrid affair/marriage with Billy Bob Thornton and finally, her wedded union and then divorce from the mayor of Dilf-city himself, Mr. Brad Pitt. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jen Shah has surrendered herself to prison and we debate whether Lauren would go full lesbo or not behind bars. We chat Kate’s tragic BAFTA lewk, Megan Fox’s instagram antics, and Lauren shares a recent marital dispute in line at Wendy’s. Finally, we question a deep mystery of our time: why doesn’t the VPR cast seem richer? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Our reaction to New York Mag's article, "How to Behave" and a selection of our own rules of behavior on polite decorum. Tune in to hear all our thoughts on allergies at dinner parties, social rules around A-listers, texting, plane behavior, tipping, & more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

*PATREON* Listen in for the drama that almost ended Lauren's wedding in an international lawsuit before it even began! The gals get into all the anxiety leading up to the big day, which of Lauren's biggest fears came true, and the dream wedding purchase she sold her tennis necklace for. Click here to listen! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hear Lauren's struggles as she attempts to curate her wedding on IG, Chanler's tale of almost getting kicked out of the spa, and then all the gals' thoughts on "Pamela, A Love Story" and the new Armie Hammer interview. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

*PATREON* Listen in for all the tea on Prince Andrew's marriage to and divorce from Sarah Ferguson and finally, at long and dear last, Tina's take on Prince Andrew's cavorting with Jeffrey Epstein. CLICK HERE TO LISTEN! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We chat all our thoughts on Tar, RHONY Legacy being cancelled, and then the highlights and lowlights of creating Pop Apologists, including our favorite episodes! To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

*PATREON* CLICK HERE TO LISTEN! First we take a walk down memory lane and Lauren shares stories from her early twenties in search of a bucolic existence. 🐎🤠 We then answer the following questions! How to get back onto the dating scene after separating from your husband? What was your worst day ever? What podcasts do we listen to? What are our evening and morning routines? Favorite beverages — alcoholic and non-alcoholic. More details on our experiences with adderrall and phentermine. How is Retain Finance doing? All our thoughts on starting your own online business / personal brand (podcasting, blogging, influencing, etc). The important of a consistent content calendar. Should you quit your full-time job to pursue your side hustle? How to be strategic growing an audience. To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we are diving into listener questions as well as some hot topics! We cover Kylie Jenner's dramatic weight loss, debuted at Paris Fashion Week, as well as the long-awaited reveal of her baby son's name....Aire, as in "billionAIRE" 😏 We chat the TikTok rumor that Liam cheated on Miley 14 times, and finally dig into your q+a including our most embarrassing moments, how to get your boyfriend to propose, our advice for getting out of a slump, and more! To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

*PATREON* This week we are bringing you a smattering of topics and quite the candor! We chat our friendship with Heather Gay and our feelings about her loyalty to Jen shah, our Current thoughts on Bravo/housewives including RHOSLC. We give a breakdown of the Boston man who murdered and dismembered his wife and a recap of the Michael Haight's murder of his wife, 5 kids, & mother in law. Finally, we have a candid discussion on all things Ozempic/adderall/phentermine/ silver bullet weight loss pills and a long overdue rehashing of Melissa Wood & her long lean crimes. CLICK HERE TO LISTEN! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we are diving into the romance of our favorite Australian lovers, Keith Urban & Nicole Kidman. Listen along to hear how these two lovebirds met, their rocky journey to flowing parents of two, and confessions of love Keith & Nicole have made about each other over the years. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

*PATREON* First, Chan gives us an update on our wisened Facebook Marketplace friend (the saga continues...)! Lauren shares about a tumble in the streets of PR that almost sent her to the ER....and finally, we give our thoughts on Prince Harry's 60 Minutes interview and his appearance on the Colbert Report. Thanks for being Patreonies! <3 <3 <3  CLICK HERE TO LISTEN! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week the gals break down all that we know about the chilling University of Idaho murders. Listen to the timeline of events leading up to the murders, how law enforcement were able to zero in on alleged murderer Bryan Kohberger, and what new details have emerged since his arrest.  To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

*PATREON* This week we are diving into the pre-Epstein antics of Prince Andrew, a litany of dealings with ne'er-do-wells, as well as his ill-fated first love with an erotic Hollywood actress. Enjoy! CLICK HERE TO LISTEN TO THE FULL EPISODE! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Listen in as the gals discuss the Goop podcast interview with Kim Kardashian, and why many people, including keyboard warrior Bethenny Frankel, had some strong feelings about it. Lauren and Chan give their thoughts on what we find fascinating about Kim K as well as Gwyneth Paltrow, and the juice we wish they would give. The girls give their thoughts on New York magazine’s Nepo Baby article, and why we think a family first mentality doesn’t have to be a bad thing. Hear all about the book that had both Lauren and Chan absolutely riveted, “I’m Glad My Mom Died,” the memoir by Jennette McCurdy. Lauren and Chan give their new year’s intentions and what they are committing to in 2023. To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lauren and Chan are diving back into another chapter “The Palace Papers” where Tina Brown spills the royal tea on William and Kate’s romance. The gals discuss the shocking breakup when the relationship got too serious for William, the master plan that had William running back to Kate, the surprising #1 supporter of Kate, and the eventual Kenyan proposal. Hear all about Kate’s bachelorette party, where she sings about how she had to “fight for this love” and our thoughts on Kate’s wedding looks. To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

After a wedding and honeymoon celebration, Lauren and Chan are back in the saddle just in time to discuss Prince Harry and Meghan Markle’s new series on Netflix. Listen to the gals as they discuss where Harry and Meghan shine and where they miss the mark(le).  Hear their complicated, sometimes conflicting, takes on who Meghan and Harry really are versus the extremely curated edit of their lives after leaving the UK and the royal family. Brace yourselves for excessive virtue signaling, as well as Meghan’s striving to be seen as both a global ambassador, yet still girl next door relatable (“I didn’t know you had to curtsey to the Queen!”), which does not always mesh very well.  This episode is full of conflicting, sometimes flip-flopping opinions, which some may call “A Mighty Change of Heart.” To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

While Lauren is honeymooning in paradise, Chanler is joined by the legendary Joe Peacock and together they revisit celebrity relationships that we all forgot existed. Reese Witherspoon and Jake Gyllenhaal (as well as uncover Jake’s origin story as a villain) Sandra Bullock and Ryan Gosling Jake Gyllenhaal and Kirsten Dunst Ryan Gosling and Rachel McAdams Ryan Reynold and Alanis Morissette Chan and Joe also discuss evidence of Taylor Swift being surrounded by Yes Men ™️ and why she needs an editor back in her life. If you want to get straight to the celebrity couples skip the first 10 or so minutes!  To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Listen as the gals dive into the life of Hollywood’s hottest young Christian couples, Justin and Hailey Bieber. Journey with them though Justin’s dark years and hear how his faith led him to be ready for a relationship with his bestie Hailey. Get all the tea about Justin and Hailey’s early years, how their relationship went from a random Today show meeting to an eventual romance, and finally to a beautiful Christian union. Plus, hear about how Lauren and Chan ruined various concerts for Deb, and why their future children had better be ready to roll up their sleeves and get to work. To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

TRIGGER WARNING: This episode contains references to suicide, sexual abuse, and child sexual abuse. And of course it does, we're talking about Keith Raniere! That's right, this week we have a total, complete, and comprehensive guide to The Vow Season II on HBO Max. None other than the incredible Kate Casey joins to debrief this harrowing new season. To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It’s a deep dive on two the planet’s most attractive humans, Tom Brady and Gisele Bundchen. From the beginning— a blind-ish first date to the event that turned their worlds upside town just two months into their relationship. To the middle— a surprisingly low-key wedding approach and the clear conclusion that Gisele is the heart of the family. And the end- “It’s not working if it only works for you, Tom” and a short-lived retirement. Hear about the impact of Gisele the Good Witch and Deb’s thoughts on why Tom couldn’t stay retired. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Uncensored bride anxiety, a breakdown of the FTX implosion, our thoughts on Handmaid's Tale and The Crown, and Taylor Swift's continued terrible style. To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week Lauren comes to the table with her evolving thoughts on OnlyFans. The gals then discuss Bethenny Frankel's new podcast, "Rewives," and ruminate upon how someone so rich has reduced herself to a housewives rewatch podcast. Finally, they share some observations about the striking parallels between Bethenny Frankel's and Kathryn Heigl's career and end with Lauren's most mortifying personal story from her youth. To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Equal parts praise and reprisal, I sit down with Chanler and discuss at length both her and Joe's commentary as well as my own extensive thoughts on the album of the year: Midnights by Taylor Swift. CLICK HERE TO LISTEN! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Breaking down every song on Midnights, Taylor Swift's album of absolute bops & bangers, baby!!!!!!!!!! & of course Chan brought your favorite Joe Peacock to take on the task. Buckle in, Swifties! To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week the gals discuss the truly stunning (Taylor Swift’s new album Midnights) and the truly awful (the airplane ride that ended Brad and Angelina’s marriage.) Hear more about Taylor Swift’s three figurative writing pens and which one the girls need more of and the one they could do without. Lauren and Chan discuss the brilliant piece by Ann Helen Peterson, where she pulls back the curtain on Brad Pitt, Angelina Jolie, and the Hollywood PR machine. Get ready to have your eyes opened to the things we are not seeing and the narrative that has been spun vs. the facts. To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Part two of Gwyneth Paltrow’s lovers through time, from ketchup heirs and kings to rock stars and show runners. Enjoy a look at her abundant love life and truly stunning wedding with Brad Falchuk. But first, listen along as the girls discuss what they've been up to, including Lauren’s makeup revelations, a questionable bracelet inscription, and Chan’s maid of honor gift. To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The first part of our deep dive into all of Gwyneth Paltrow's lovers through time. This week, we unpack everything through the Pre-Martin era, including one Brad Pitt and Ben Affleck. But before we get there, we chat miracles at the dentist office, a small bad trip on a boat, and songs that stir Chan. Enjoy! To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lauren and Chan are home at last. Lauren extolls the virtues of Spirit airlines, despite the aggressive dad energy of her pilot. Chan’s journeys through Altercation City, a series of dark events on her journey back to NYC. The gals get into celeb cheating rumors that shake Lauren and Chan to their core. They discuss Real Housewives drama and the toll that money and fame can take on family relationships. Finally, they dish on Gwyneth Paltrow and Brad Falchuk’s Goop podcast episode. To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we dive into all things the celebrity plastic surgery with Dana Omari of the wildly popular Instagram account @IGFamousByDana. We discuss the easy and difficult to spot work on the Kardashians and the *alleged* extensive work on Hailey Beiber. We get into why celebs won’t be honest about their work, including celebs like Margot Robbie and Blake Lively. Dana dispels the miracle pregnancy snapback myth and when to run rom a plastic surgeon. Finally, we chat the importance with being ok with not always being the object of sexual desire and the beauty and energy of acceptance. To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Just a good ole-fashioned chat with Chan about a step-heavy funeral, Adam Levine's infidelity, the unceasing drone of Covid protocols on Coyote Pass as Christine and Kody come to terms with their dissolution, and an update on Chan's sinful situation. Buckle in!! To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today we are bringing you the first part of our deep dive into the extraordinarily entertaining article on Meghan Markle from The Cut! To hear the rest of this four part series on Patreon, click here! Part 3 was released today on Patreon and part 4 is coming Friday, September 16th. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today we discuss the truth behind the smoke and mirrors that have surrounded the romance of Harry and Meghan and their exodus from British life. We are joined by Kate Casey, host of Reality Life with Kate Casey, for a groundbreaking conversation about these much debated Montecito lovers. Fear not, we settle the score and more! To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This episode is 10/10. Just listen. Love ya. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Answering all your plant medicine questions and much more. You guys are going to LOVE this episode. To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we answer all of your relationship questions! To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We chat the new Shania Twain documentary on Netflix, the "House of Hammer" trailer about Armie Hammer's twisted ways, Lauren gets VERY REAL about wedding planning, our current workout "regimes" and more Q+A... To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we are bringing you a massive skin deep dive on everything you need to know to get that infant glow. If you're anything like us, all the product recommendations on social media can leave you with decision fatigue and feeling a bit overwhelmed. We sat down with Sara Moran and Claire O'Bryan from The Skin Clique to get expert recommendations and a comprehensive skin care plan for everyone who is as lost as we are. We also chat the breakdown of Kim K and Pete Davidson and the new trailer of Sister Wives at the top of the show! Buckle in! To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We chat Kim K's claim that she has never had filler in lips and cheeks, some J-Lo & Ben Affleck tea, our unfiltered thoughts on Taylor Swift's style, and why we continue to worship at the feet of Gwyneth Paltrow. Finally, we get into some childhood memories of getting very serious, fancy portraits taken and discuss our ongoing "journeys" with social media. To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We chat Elon Musk's many children and baby mamas, his father's illicit affair with his stepdaughter, Bennifer's fashion lewks in Paris, tales of working together at a restaurant in our early twenties, and some listener Q+A. Buckle in! To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It's breakup/ failed relationship szn! This week we chat Em Rata's cheating husband and divorce headline, Chelsea Handler and Joy Koy's lost love, and finally finish part II of our deep dive into the relationship of Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes. Listen along for all the deets on their dramatic courtship, whirlwind engagement, the silent birth, yes "silent," birth of Suri, and the moment Katie broke down and realized she needed to escape. BUCKLE IN. Help us get to our goal of 1,000 patrons by 2023! To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We continue down the treacherous path of aristocratic sexcapades, the surprisingly tragic tale of Dale Harper, one of Charles's former flames, and the scandalous behavior between Charles and Camilla on the dance floor at many a country ball. We also get into Taylor Frankie Paul dancing on TikTok to her custody arrangement and the news that Khloe will be welcoming a child with Tristan. Buckle in!! To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we chat Lauren's 32nd birthday trip to Anguilla, Chan moving in with Ben, Jen Shah pleading guilty to wire fraud, and then begin our deep dive into the love story of Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes. Fast forward about 15 minutes if you want to skip the personal life gobbley gook and get right to the celeb gossip. To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we are diving into the love story of America's favorite mid-life lovers, Tom Hanks and Rita Wilson. We get into Tom's troubled childhood, rise to fame, and eventual ascent to stardom and meeting the love of his life. And oh yes, we chat Rita's late-in-life singing career. Listen along for all the details on how their Hollywood romance has stood the test of time. Click here to listen to more from our Royal's Deep Dive and help us reach our goal of 1K patrons! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We are bringing you a full episode from our Royal's Deep Dive on Patreon! Listen along for all the absolutely glorious details about Camilla Parker Bowles' stunning upbringing in a lifestyle of leisure, her great grandmother's utterly salacious affair with King Edward VII, and exactly why Charles cannot quit his beloved Duchess of Cornwall. Click here to listen to more from our Royal's Deep Dive and help us reach our goal of 1K patrons! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We get into The Kardashian's finale, Gwyneth Paltrow's interview with Brad Pitt for Goop, Lauren's new obsession with Near Death Experiences, and Amber's interview with Savannah Guthrie! To support the show and access our Royals Deep Dive episodes, plus our 100+ bonus episodes on Patreon, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

To support the show and access our Royals Deep Dive episodes, plus our 100+ bonus episodes on Patreon, click here! Part 1 of our royals deep dive recapping The Palace Papers by Tina Brown! We get into many overlooked parts of royals history, like the true meaning behind Meghan's dark eye make up and low bun during her sit down with Oprah, how Princess Diana got tricked into her tell all interview with Martin Bashir, the tumultuous childhood of Prince Philip, and the drama at Diana's funeral that had the queen fuming for years.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Indy Blue joins us in a very candid conversation about everything from leaving Mormonism, her epic upcoming wedding, to the fate of Jen Shah. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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This week we chat Kim Kardashian's new skincare line, SKKN, the new documentary on Hulu about Teal Swan, "The Deep End," and end with a dissertation on why our listeners should become the masters of their own universe. ✨ To support the show and access 100+ bonus episodes, sign up for the Patreon by click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Who the f are we? How did the podcast begin? What kind of exercise do we (and Courtney) do? What self tanner do we use? What is a non-chuegy bridesmaid gift? How did our partners respond when we sent them Richard Marx's 1989 romantic ballad "I'll Be Waiting?" with zero context? Do we think Tom Cruise is gay? What is on our summer bucket list? Listen along as we bring it back to the basics, catch up, and mention it all. <3 Support the show and access 100+ bonus episodes, sign up for the Patreon by click here! Get a Bolalá beach puff! My new favorite thing! https://www.bo-lala.com/collections/beach-puff My fav self tanner! https://amzn.to/3N67lKF Walking Pad link! https://amzn.to/3azRPsf Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Amber's witnesses testify and it is NOT a good day for Johnny Depp. Buckle in. ☠️ To support the show and access our Johnny v. Amber coverage in full, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Click here to support the show, access 100+ bonus episodes, and and listen to our coverage of the Johnny v. Amber trial in full on Patreon! Camille v. Amber continues as Amber's cross examination takes up the majority of day 17 and finally concludes. Listen as we dissect every detail, including: - the terrifying dagger shown to the jury that Amber gave Johnny in 2012 - the absurd audio where Amber tells Johnny repeatedly to "s" her "d"  - the moment when Camille offended Amber - the horrible things Johnny told iO about Amber - Amber slipping up and seemingly admitting she leaked photos to TMZ - Testimony from Rocky Pennington, ex-bff of Amber and witness to the trailer park incident John Bledsoe, our favorite legal expert, even calls in and weighs in on the matter at hand! xx Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Click here to listen! Court reconvenes after breaking for a week and Amber takes the stand to finish her direct examination. She conveniently correct parts of her testimony where she seemed to contradict the facts before the court broke for a week, leading those watching the case to believe that Amber was improperly coached by her attorneys.  We hear Amber's account of the grumpy 💩 and her defense of the audio where she admitted to hitting Johnny. Finally, Amber is cross examined by Camille Vasquez, the beloved star attorney. We listen to audio where the two of them spar over mysteriously missing photos of Amber's injuries and the also missing 7M in donations to the ACLU and Children's Hospital of Los Angeles. Camille also questions Amber over the timeline of her relationship with Elon Musk. Buckle in, bb's! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A long, meandering discussion finishing up day 15 of Amber on the stand – complete with a Deb tale and John A Bledsoe, Esq phoning in.  Click here to support the show, access 100+ bonus episodes, and and listen to our coverage of the Johnny v. Amber trial in full on Patreon! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Breaking down iconic celebrity weddings including Kravis, The Royals, Gwyneth & Brad, and Brad & Angelina with none other than Michelle Martinez of The Big Wedding Planning Podcast! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Back on dry land and talking about what is new with us and America's favorite family...The Kardashians. We cover all the recent episodes and their antics. From Kim's SNL stint to the Kravis proposal. Chanler's prayers are answered because Lauren FINALLY sees the light of Travis Barker. Hallelujah. We don't mince words with our thoughts on Kendall. Some additional musings from Lauren on how interior design will revolt against the all white everything and the premiere episode of Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. To support the show and access our Johnny v. Amber recaps, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Click here to support the show on Patreon and access our Johnny v. Amber recaps! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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We are joined by Ashlee, Taylor, and Linley of The Buy Guide to chat all of our favorite products! We get into gift ideas from birthdays to graduations to what to get a new boyfriend for his bday or Christmas. We discuss the history of the cult favorite Stanley cup and their journey from discovering it, finding out it was going to be discontinued, convincing the CEO of Stanley to bring it back, and launching it with wild success. We chat the business of Instagram and why it isn't too late to jump in and make money on social media – as well as The Buy Guide's own journey to epic success. Enjoy!! To support the show on Patreon and access our Johnny v. Amber court recaps, click here! Product Links: Walking Pad Dyson Airwrap Pebble Ice Machine Vuori Sweatpant Joggers Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we are deep diving into the lives of Carolyn Bessette Kennedy and JFK, Jr. and their iconic American romance. Who exactly was Carolyn before she waltzed into JFK Jr.'s glittering orbit? What exactly made the American prince forego his supermodel habit in favor of a normal girl from White Plains, New York? How did Jackie O. feel about her son as he rose to prominence as the American sex symbol of his time? Why was Carolyn two hours late to her own wedding? And what happened on the fateful night when they met their untimely demise? We answer these questions and much, much more. Buckle in, bb's! To support the show on Patreon and access our Johnny v. Amber court recaps, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Click here to access the full episode! We cover day 11 of the trial including:  - Johnny's "salty CPA" who dishes on Amber's pricey wine habit and rants over her divorce demands - The director of the ACLU's testimony revealing just exactly how much "Amber" has donated - Revelations from two of Depp's security detail who witnessed Amber and Johnny in explosive fights  - Testimony from the security guard who picked Amber up the morning she dumped a grump Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Click here to access the full episode! We cover days 8-10 including:  - Explosive audio of Amber seemingly admitting to concocting the domestic violence allegations - Ben King, JD's House Manager, testifies to Amber's wine habits, finding Johnny's fingertip in a puddle of napkins, and the bratty teenager antics Amber would use to start a fight. - Amber's attorney objecting to his own question. - Tara Roberts, JD's island manager, testifying to witnessing a horrible fight between A and J, and the high maintenance requests that started coming in from Amber.  - Dr. Shannon Curry, a licensed psychologist, testifies to diagnosing Amber with Borderline Personality Disorder and Histrionic Personality Disorder. - Alejandro Ramirez, a building security guard, becomes the real star of the trial as he testifies while vaping and driving in his car. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We get into all the sordid details behind the finger slicing incident, listen to the speech Johnny gave about the impact Amber's allegations have had on his life, discuss the troubling texts brought to light under cross examination, and listen to utterly heatbreaking audio that brought Johnny to tears on the stand. Buckle tf in. Click here to access the full episode! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We are back on the high seas of justice with a comprehensive and complete recap of days 4-6 of the Johnny v. Amber trial. We will be continuing our coverage on Patreon with a new episode dropping Friday! To support the show and access our bonus episodes, visit https://www.patreon.com/popapologists  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A FULL and COMPLETE breakdown of the Johnny Depp vs. Amber Heard trial including everything from the timeline of the relationship and the breakdown of their union to what exactly led us to that Fairfax, VA courtroom. Listen along for a thorough recap and analysis of days 1-3 of the trial of our lifetimes. Buckle tf in. To support the show and access our bonus episodes, visit https://www.patreon.com/popapologists  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we break down our thoughts on the latest and greatest in television: Severance, Ultimatum, WeCrashed, and The Dropout. We chat Kravis's fake wedding, Kylie hiding her post partum bod, our enneagram numbers, and more. Love y'all! <3 To support the show and access our bonus episodes, visit https://www.patreon.com/popapologists  To support Lauren getting more followers than Chanler, please follow here on Instagram by visiting https://www.instagram.com/laurenbledsoe/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we answer some of your burning questions. We give our analysis of the show Bad Vegan and Alec and Hilaria Baldwin’s ever-expanding family. Hear who has an upstairs face vs. a downstairs face, as well as who had some subtle work done recently. We discuss who should receive the credit for our illustrious vocabularies, and Lauren’s childhood pastime of attending academic conferences in preparation for life as a career poet. Lauren shares why she lives in Puerto Rico. We talk about the true struggle of early to mid-twenties and trying to find their respective career paths. Also, hear cautionary tales of the cool, glamorous jobs that are actually life-sucking hell holes. We chat growing up in Orange County and compare East Coast vs. West Coast snobbery. Finally, we chat our first luxury purchases, which leads to the single greatest gift Lauren ever gave to Chanler. Spoiler: it wasn’t a luxury. Buckle in! Lauren and Chan’s morning skincare routines and favorite face products. To support the show and access our bonus episodes, visit https://www.patreon.com/popapologists  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We chat Will Smith slapping Chris Rock at the Oscars and debate whether this was a display of toxic masculinity or a culture bereft of normalized, ceremonial, male-on-male combat. We further explore the role Scientology may have played in the slap heard round the world. Then, we are joined by wedding planning expert and host of the The Big Wedding Planning Podcast, Michelle Martinez, to answer all your (and Lauren's) questions about weddings. Should you leave your florals to a trusted expert or swing by Ralph's the Friday before the ceremony to DIY it on the cheap? All your questions and more are answered on this intensive wedding deep dive. Buckle in! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we chat our obsession with The Dropout, the Hulu doc about our favorite green juice guzzling couple: Elizabeth Holmes and hot as hell Sunny fkn Balwani. We question Bella Hadid's dubious claim that she wishes she had kept the "nose of her ancestors." Finally, we chat Lauren buying a house in Puerto Rico and Chan's internet-infamous walk home from the chiropractor through Times Square. Buckle in, bb's! To support the show and access our bonus episodes, visit https://www.patreon.com/popapologists  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The impossible has happened. Our beloved mother, the very woman who called this podcast "absolutely so embarrassing for our family" and swore she would never come on, has turned the other cheek and sat down with us for an hour of childhood tales, maternal wisdom, and everything in between. Listen along as she tells us her side of that fateful afternoon in the drive thru in desperate search of Chick Fil A diet lemonade. Hear her explain why she felt the need to turn her children into child activists over poorly installed flooring in her San Clemente home. In this ep, Deb truly tells all, from marriage and dating advice, to answering one of the great questions of our time: Is Celine Dion a slut? Buckle tf in, bb's. To support the show and access our bonus episodes, visit https://www.patreon.com/popapologists Thanks to this weeks sponsors! Check out Dooney & Bourke’s newest, most exciting collection at Dooney.com/POP.For 20% off your first order, visit Dooney.com/POP and use the code POP before April 30, 2022. Go to HelloFresh.com/pop16 and use code pop16 for up to 16 free meals AND 3 free gifts! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we get into Chanler’s embarrassing disclosure during a presentation at work, why she thinks female empowerment and Melinda Gate’s “Moment of Lift” is boring af, and all our thoughts on the illuminating interview with Melinda by Gayle King. Lauren questions the integrity of Gayle’s journalistic career and then back tracks like a coward upon Chanler’s admonishment. We discuss the article “The Movie Star & Me” which alleges sexual harassment by Jake Gyllenhaal in the workplace, and share our own personal experiences with sexual harassment while just trying to work soft and get by. Finally, we chat the about having a savings in your twenties, NYC's current vibe, and reveal Feb's Giveaway winner. Buckle in! Thanks to this weeks sponsors! Follow Twin Flames on Apple Podcasts, Amazon Music, or you can listen early and ad-free by subscribing to Wondery Plus in Apple Podcasts or the Wondery App. Check out Dooney & Bourke’s newest, most exciting collection at Dooney.com/POP.For 20% off your first order, visit Dooney.com/POP and use the code POP before April 30, 2022. Pop Apologists want you to start living a happier life today. As a listener, you’ll get 10% off your first month by visiting our sponsor at BetterHelp.com/popapologists. Join over 10 million people getting their FitOn. Work out for free anytime, anywhere. Text POP to 64-000 to join FitOn for free! Text POP to 64-000! That’s POP 64-000. Go to HelloFresh.com/pop16 and use code pop16 for up to 16 free meals AND 3 free gifts! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dream mom, founder of our favorite hair care brand, Dae, and all around wonder girl Amber Fillerup joins us this week to answer all our questions. She tells us what it was like to be one of the first successful bloggers and about the moment she realized her blog would be a lucrative career. Amber chats the joy of motherhood, her decision to no longer show her kids on social media, and the best marriage advice she ever received. Onto even more critical matters, she gives us all her secrets on staying tan and swimming with her kids 5 days/week. We ask for advice on dealing with criticism and how she manages negativity and trolls. Finally, we chat all of our favorite Dae products and Amber's vision for the future of the brand. Many, many thanks to Amber for coming on the pod and sharing her beautiful light with us and our listeners. Enjoy! ✨ Thanks to this weeks sponsors! Follow Twin Flames on Apple Podcasts, Amazon Music, or you can listen early and ad-free by subscribing to Wondery Plus in Apple Podcasts or the Wondery App. Pop Apologists listeners get 10% off their first month at BetterHelp.com/popapologists. Check out Dooney & Bourke’s newest, most exciting collection at Dooney.com/POP.For 20% off your first order, visit Dooney.com/POP and use the code POP before April 30, 2022. Pop Apologists want you to start living a happier life today. As a listener, you’ll get 10% off your first month by visiting our sponsor at BetterHelp.com/popapologists. Join over 10 million people getting their FitOn. Work out for free anytime, anywhere. Text POP to 64-000 to join FitOn for free! Text POP to 64-000! That’s POP 64-000. Go to HelloFresh.com/pop16 and use code pop16 for up to 16 free meals AND 3 free gifts! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Chan Tinder Swindles Ben into coming on the pod! Benler gets into their recent gorgeous trip to Casa Atkinson in Puerto Rico and get into all the Q&A about their luv story like...how they met, the winding road to their first date, who said I love you first (buckle in baby!), Chan's serial killer trait, the moment Ben knew he loved Chan, and more. Sorry for all the gushing folks, blame it on our vacation mood and the honeymoon phase. Xoxo Chan Thanks to this weeks sponsors! Follow Twin Flames on Apple Podcasts, Amazon Music, or you can listen early and ad-free by subscribing to Wondery Plus in Apple Podcasts or the Wondery App. Pop Apologists listeners get 10% off their first month at BetterHelp.com/popapologists. Check out Dooney & Bourke’s newest, most exciting collection at Dooney.com/POP.For 20% off your first order, visit Dooney.com/POP and use the code POP before April 30, 2022. Pop Apologists want you to start living a happier life today. As a listener, you’ll get 10% off your first month by visiting our sponsor at BetterHelp.com/popapologists. Join over 10 million people getting their FitOn. Work out for free anytime, anywhere. Text POP to 64-000 to join FitOn for free! Text POP to 64-000! That’s POP 64-000. Go to HelloFresh.com/pop16 and use code pop16 for up to 16 free meals AND 3 free gifts! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode we get into Chanler's encounters with two very different New York strangers, a dramatic revisit of Pamela Anderson's final IG post and Lauren's corresponding disappointment with her less-than-soulful-adult life, the delicious 12-min GP's Architectural Digest video featuring her Montecito home. We also fully dive into Soy Georgina and Lauren's obsession. Plus, some Q+A on the birth order in our family, sister fights (yikes!), dispelling the WalkingPad negative reviews, does John Bledsoe think divorce is inevitable (also dark!), Chan's thoughts on the beautiful yet soul sucking Euphoria, Greece v. Spain as vacation destinations, Chan's NYC foodie spots, and more! To support the show and access our bonus episodes, visit https://www.patreon.com/popapologists Many thanks to our sponsor of this week's episode, FitOn, Dooney&Bourkey, and Hello Fresh! Go to HelloFresh.com/pop16 and use code pop16 for up to 16 free meals AND 3 free gifts! Check out Dooney & Bourke’s newest, most exciting collection at Dooney.com/POP. For 20% off your first order, visit Dooney.com/POP and use the code POP before April 30, 2022. Join over 10 million people getting their FitOn. Work out for free anytime, anywhere. Text POP to 64-000 to join FitOn for free! Text POP to 64-000! That’s POP 64-000. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lauren shares two twists of fate with corporations she has dealings with: Zara and JetBlue. Chanler shares depressing memories of being single on Valentine's Day, eating solo meals of Subway tuna at the BYU Wilkinson center year after desperate year. & then the gals turn their thoughts to Secrets of Playboy, A&E's docu-series about Hugh Hefner. Blessedly, Kate Casey of Reality Life with Kate Casey joins to give her thorough analysis of the series, tell us about her experience attending a strict boarding school as a kid, chat the Lisa Barlow hot mic incident, and finally solve a burning mystery for us: why people hate Erika Jayne but are ambivalent about Jen Shah. It's a great episode, y'all. Buckle IN. To support the show and access our bonus episodes, visit https://www.patreon.com/popapologists The beloved Walking Pad link: https://amzn.to/3GwqyB7 Check out Kate Casey's incredible podcast where she recaps the latest and greatest in all things documentaries and reality television, Reality Life with Kate Casey. Many thanks to our sponsor of this week's episode, Hello Fresh! Go to HelloFresh.com/pop16 and use code pop16 for up to 16 free meals AND 3 free gifts! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week Chan and I catch up on our Valentine's plans and my upcoming travels. We discuss dating advice from our parents growing up and one very important marriage tip from our dad, the divorce attorney. We get into current shows we are loving. the biggest culture shock since moving to Puerto Rico, thoughts on chic dining habits, and more trivial nonsense we can't believe anyone cares to hear us discuss. We love y'all so much. ❤️ Buckle innnn. To support the show and access our bonus episodes, visit https://www.patreon.com/popapologists The beloved Walking Pad link: https://amzn.to/336ze3A Many thanks to our sponsor of this week's episode, Hello Fresh! Go to HelloFresh.com/pop16 and use code pop16 for up to 16 free meals AND 3 free gifts! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It appears Deb is at it again, making anyone who mentions the pod swear up and down not to listen. This week, listen along as Lauren regales us with the tale of one poor dental hygienist who was forced to make an oath to Deb that she would never subscribe. We get into that heartwarming tale of maternal support and then pivot to a recent a flight Lauren took that almost ended in blows. Chanler breaks down the West Elm Caleb situation and we discuss Bella Hadid's decision to lay off the sauce. Finally, we chat a controversial question: should you share phone passwords with your partner? Buckle in. Also, apologies for the bodily noises. This ep is truly disgusting and should be cancelled. To support the show and access our bonus episodes, visit https://www.patreon.com/popapologists Many thanks to our sponsor of this week's episode, Hello Fresh! Go to HelloFresh.com/pop16 and use code pop16 for up to 16 free meals AND 3 free gifts! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we are diving into all things dating and romance, prompted by the great love of our time shared between (of course) Megan Fox and Machine Gun Kelly. We chat all our thoughts on the engagement ring and drinking each other's blood before turning to decidedly less deviant (but equally sordid) topic: our own dating and romantic histories. We extoll the brief bit of wisdom we have and chat when to sleep with someone, ghosting, big red flags to watch out for, and misconceptions about secular courtship. Buckle in, bb's! To support the show and access our bonus episodes, visit https://www.patreon.com/popapologists Many thanks to our sponsor of this week's episode, Hello Fresh! Go to HelloFresh.com/pop16 and use code pop16 for up to 16 free meals AND 3 free gifts! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Covid bride quandaries. Long distance relationships. This week we are giving our uncredentialed advice on all the pickles our listeners have found themselves in. We chat destination wedding drama, how to deal with your boyfriend's baby momma, whether or not to pursue an MBA, body positivity struggles, and how to not be bitter when everyone around you is getting engaged. Finally, we discuss how soon is too soon to leave a new job, and the dark time Lauren donned a neon orange visor to sling smoothies at her mortifying Jamba Juice job in high school. Buckle in, bb's. To support the show and access our bonus episodes, visit https://www.patreon.com/popapologists Many thanks to our sponsor of this week's episode, Hello Fresh! Go to HelloFresh.com/pop16 and use code pop16 for up to 16 free meals AND 3 free gifts! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we revisit the failure of Lauren’s startup in 2020, @freshhomemadecookies. Chanler regales us with tales of John and Deb visiting her in NYC. We get into Chan’s favorite show and how it is ruining her cowboy fantasies. We discuss the viral post by David Foster of Katharine McPhee's postpartum bod and, finally, we chat Lauren’s nightmare trip to five grocery stores. Buckle in! Many thanks to this week's sponsors! BetterHelp — Go to Betterhelp.com/popapologists for 10% off your first month Zocdoc — Go to Zocdoc.com/pop and download the Zocdoc app to sign-up for free and book a top-rated doctor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Painful Nordstrom returns, a creepy, new patreon subscriber, and many more Deb tales await you in this new ep. Enjoy! To support the show and access our bonus episodes, visit https://www.patreon.com/popapologists Many thanks to this week's sponsors! BetterHelp — Go to Betterhelp.com/popapologists for 10% off your first month Quip — Go to getquip.com/pop to save $10 on a Quip Smart Electric Toothbrush Zocdoc — Go to Zocdoc.com/pop and download the Zocdoc app to sign-up for free and book a top-rated doctor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Listen in to hear how Lauren's journey as a vegetarian is going! Our full episode, with our recap of our Cabo trip with several members of RHOSLC, can be found on Patreon, linked below. ❄️✨ To support the show and access our bonus episodes, visit https://www.patreon.com/popapologists Many thanks to this week's sponsors! BetterHelp — Go to Betterhelp.com/popapologists for 10% off your first month Quip — Go to getquip.com/pop to save $10 on a Quip Smart Electric Toothbrush Zocdoc — Go to Zocdoc.com/pop and download the Zocdoc app to sign-up for free and book a top-rated doctor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Kim passes the baby bar! Lauren’s baggage saga concludes with a happy ending for everyone except the JetBlue reimbursement office. We chat the New Yorker profile on Jeremy Strong and Lauren’s new book, Lifespan by David Sinclair. To support the show and access our bonus episodes, visit https://www.patreon.com/popapologists Many thanks to this week's sponsors! BetterHelp — Go to Betterhelp.com/popapologists for 10% off your first month Quip — Go to getquip.com/pop to save $10 on a Quip Smart Electric Toothbrush Zocdoc — Go to Zocdoc.com/pop and download the Zocdoc app to sign-up for free and book a top-rated doctor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

To support the show and access our bonus episodes, visit https://www.patreon.com/popapologists Many thanks to this week's sponsors! BetterHelp — Go to Betterhelp.com/popapologists for 10% off your first month Quip — Go to getquip.com/pop to save $10 on a Quip Smart Electric Toothbrush Zocdoc — Go to Zocdoc.com/pop and download the Zocdoc app to sign-up for free and book a top-rated doctor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

To support the show and access our bonus episodes, visit https://www.patreon.com/popapologists Many thanks to this week's sponsors! Nutrafol — Go to Nutrafol.com and enter promo code APOLOGISTS to save $15 off your first month’s subscription plus free shipping. US customers only, for a limited time. BetterHelp — Go to Betterhelp.com/popapologists for 10% off your first month Quip — Go to getquip.com/pop to save $10 on a Quip Smart Electric Toothbrush Zocdoc — Go to Zocdoc.com/pop and download the Zocdoc app to sign-up for free and book a top-rated doctor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

OUR MOST TREASURED BEAUTY SECRETS which we shall only divulge to our Pop Apologists listeners and our granddaughters someday. We get into IT ALL. The secrets we spill include how to avoid a bad bruise, get strong nails, grow out your hair, and achieve a salon quality manicure for cheap. We get into skin care tips, skin taping, and the true miracle that is modern aesthetic procedures. Finally, we are joined by the founder of Casita Jewelry, Sara Vafi, to discuss her beauty secrets. We chat eye cream, retinol, eyebrow pro tips, and getting your brows done next to Gwyneth Paltrow. We chat fine jewelry trends for the fall, the pieces we currently have our eyes on, gift ideas for the holidays, and why fine jewelry is truly the best gift and investment. To support the show and access our bonus episodes, visit https://www.patreon.com/popapologists Visit casitajewelry,com and use code POPAPOLOGISTS to get 15% off 💎💎💎 Many thanks to this week's sponsors! Nutrafol — Go to Nutrafol.com and enter promo code APOLOGISTS to save $15 off your first month’s subscription plus free shipping. US customers only, for a limited time. BetterHelp — Go to Betterhelp.com/popapologists for 10% off your first month Quip — Go to getquip.com/pop to save $10 on a Quip Smart Electric Toothbrush Zocdoc — Go to Zocdoc.com/pop and download the Zocdoc app to sign-up for free and book a top-rated doctor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we get into a passionate conversation about the musical genius and queen of cringe herself, Ms. Taylor Swift. We discuss Taylor’s inability to evolve in her taste level beyond the 9th grade and question her aesthetic choices in all things Red (Taylor’s Version). Chanler shares her emotional journey watching the short film and I hold nothing back as I question the last three minutes of what was otherwise perfectly enjoyable 2014 Tumblr porn. Finally, I share a recent experience being rightfully humiliated by Sharon from customer service at Delta Airlines. Buckle in, baby. To support the show and access our bonus episodes, visit https://www.patreon.com/popapologists Many thanks to this week's sponsors! Nutrafol — Go to Nutrafol.com and enter promo code APOLOGISTS to save $15 off your first month’s subscription plus free shipping. US customers only, for a limited time. BetterHelp — Go to Betterhelp.com/popapologists for 10% off your first month Quip — Go to getquip.com/pop to save $10 on a Quip Smart Electric Toothbrush Zocdoc — Go to Zocdoc.com/pop and download the Zocdoc app to sign-up for free and book a top-rated doctor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week Chanler and I chat about the abysmal snack options on American Airlines and the casual cruelty of asking passengers if they even want the complimentary snacks on board. We then get into the festival from hell, aka Astroworld, and discuss Travis Scott's history of encouraging chaos and violence at his shows. Finally, we consider the Kardashian culpability in all of this. Is America's royal family simply tone deaf and thoughtless, or maniacal witches fit for the stake? Buckle in, bb's. To support the show and access our bonus episodes, visit https://www.patreon.com/popapologists Many thanks to this week's sponsors! Nutrafol — Go to Nutrafol.com and enter promo code APOLOGISTS to save $15 off your first month’s subscription plus free shipping. US customers only, for a limited time. BetterHelp — Go to Betterhelp.com/popapologists for 10% off your first month Quip — Go to getquip.com/pop to save $10 on a Quip Smart Electric Toothbrush Zocdoc — Go to Zocdoc.com/pop and download the Zocdoc app to sign-up for free and book a top-rated doctor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

WHAT A WEEK! Zayn Malik has struck our beloved Yolanda Hadid and we are here to call him to the stand. But first, we chat Kagen turning 30 and Lauren's moment being a nightmare fiancé. We get into spam calls and emails we have recently endured and the moment when one of the Pop Apologists cussed out a spam caller. Finally, we bring to you the facts of the case of Zayn Malik vs. Yolanda and Gigi Hadid, and, spoiler alert, issue our verdict: guilty as charged. Buckle in, bb's! To access our bonus episodes, visit patreon.com/popapologists Many thanks to this week's sponsors! Nutrafol — Go to Nutrafol.com and enter promo code APOLOGISTS to save $15 off your first month’s subscription plus free shipping. US customers only, for a limited time. BetterHelp — Go to Betterhelp.com/popapologists for 10% off your first month Quip — Go to getquip.com/pop to save $10 on a Quip Smart Electric Toothbrush Zocdoc — Go to Zocdoc.com/pop and download the Zocdoc app to sign-up for free and book a top-rated doctor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You asked, we answered! This week, Chanler and I answer all your questions including what do we do for a living and what items we splurge on vs save on. We take a swing at heavy hitters like "Are fancy coffee machines worth it or should I stick with my drive through Starbucks?" and "What was it like being named Chanler growing up?" We give our book recommendations, life recommendations, etc. To support the show and access our bonus episodes, visit https://www.patreon.com/popapologists Many thanks to this week's sponsors! Nutrafol — Go to Nutrafol.com and enter promo code APOLOGISTS to save $15 off your first month’s subscription plus free shipping. US customers only, for a limited time. BetterHelp — Go to Betterhelp.com/popapologists for 10% off your first month Quip — Go to getquip.com/pop to save $10 on a Quip Smart Electric Toothbrush Zocdoc — Go to Zocdoc.com/pop and download the Zocdoc app to sign-up for free and book a top-rated doctor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week Chanler and I bemoan our shared agony over starting a retinol regimen, as we are both undergoing the infamous retinol burn. We then dive into the Kravis engagement; that's right, our favorite punk rock couple, Travis Barker and Kourtney Kardashian, are betrothed! 🌹☠️💎 After celebrating this happy news and dissecting Kourtney's relationship history, we turn to darker subject matter: the breakdown of Lala Kent and Randall Emmett. We walk our listeners through their relationship timeline, revisit the homewrecking behavior that began their relationship, and discuss our thoughts on whether this separation will last. Finally, we get into the recent nuptials of Meghan King Edmonds to Cuffe Owens, nephew to President Biden (who attended the ceremony!) and also dish on the reaction from Meghan's ex husband and possibly the devil incarnate, Jim Edmonds, and his likewise malevolent fiancé, Kortnie O'Connor, as published in the Daily Mail. Buckle tf in, bb's. To support the show and access our bonus episodes, visit https://www.patreon.com/popapologists Many thanks to this week's sponsors! Nutrafol — Go to Nutrafol.com and enter promo code APOLOGISTS to save $15 off your first month’s subscription plus free shipping. US customers only, for a limited time. BetterHelp — Go to Betterhelp.com/popapologists for 10% off your first month Quip — Go to getquip.com/pop to save $10 on a Quip Smart Electric Toothbrush Zocdoc — Go to Zocdoc.com/pop and download the Zocdoc app to sign-up for free and book a top-rated doctor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Many thanks to this week's sponsors! Nutrafol — Go to Nutrafol.com and enter promo code APOLOGISTS to save $15 off your first month’s subscription plus free shipping. US customers only, for a limited time. BetterHelp — Go to Betterhelp.com/popapologists for 10% off your first month Quip — Go to getquip.com/pop to save $10 on a Quip Smart Electric Toothbrush Zocdoc — Go to Zocdoc.com/pop and download the Zocdoc app to sign-up for free and book a top-rated doctor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We are joined by Jena Kingsley, host of Dear Media's Social Studies podcast, to discuss the things people love but, frankly, we hate. This includes charcuterie boards, people who post on LinkedIn, the demand for tipping everywhere you go, grocery store check out donation requests, the big water bottle trend, and more. Join us for a full hour of toxic negativity and leave refreshed and renewed with the stunning knowledge that you are not the only person annoyed by virtually everything. Buckle in! Many thanks to this week's sponsors! Nutrafol — Go to Nutrafol.com and enter promo code APOLOGISTS to save $15 off your first month’s subscription plus free shipping. US customers only, for a limited time. BetterHelp — Go to Betterhelp.com/popapologists for 10% off your first month Quip — Go to getquip.com/pop to save $10 on a Quip Smart Electric Toothbrush Zocdoc — Go to Zocdoc.com/pop and download the Zocdoc app to sign-up for free and book a top-rated doctor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Men you should run from. Yep, that's right – this week we are diving into all the unsavory characters you will meet in your dating years that you should run from like your life and sanity depend on it. Think it's a good idea to date someone who plays an instrument? Think again. What about a man who loves a casual flip flop? *Shudder* We are here to bring you the unvarnished truth about the wolves in hot guy clothing who will inevitably find a way into your heart unless you steal yourself against their advances with the solemn truth-telling extolled on this episode. Buckle in, ladies. 🚩🚩🚩🚩 Many thanks to this week's sponsors! Nutrafol — Go to Nutrafol.com and enter promo code APOLOGISTS to save $15 off your first month’s subscription plus free shipping. US customers only, for a limited time. BetterHelp — Go to Betterhelp.com/popapologists for 10% off your first month Quip — Go to getquip.com/pop to save $10 on a Quip Smart Electric Toothbrush! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week Chan and I get into a little postmortem about last week's controversial episode. We chat poor financial habits and the reasons why we blame our parents for our ineptitudes as grown adults. We get into the Gabby Petito murder and discuss the disturbing timeline of events that led to her remains being found in Yellowstone. Finally, we touch on the new LulaRich doc and discuss whether or not the state should be involved in protecting people from MLM schemes. Buckle in, bb's! Many thanks to this week's sponsors! BetterHelp - Thank you to BetterHelp for sponsoring this ep! Visit Betterhelp.com/popapologists for 10% off your first month Quip - Start getting rewards for brushing your teeth today, go to getquip.com/pop to save $10 on a quip Smart Electric Toothbrush! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We are back with a full run down of Lauren's trip to Greece, from Mykonos to Paros, Antiparos, Milos, and finally Santorini. Lauren gives her most prescient travel tips for each location. Which was a hit and which you could skip, and what to budget for when hitting land of yachts and feta. Chanler regales us with a truly harrowing trip to the airport, getting her apartment in NYC, and recent quirky moments staying at Deb's. It's a classic catch up between sisters finished out with some top line commentary on Scott Disick's DM to Younes and his inevitable break up with Amelia. Buckle in! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Our new episode this week will come out on Thursday due to severe scheduling conflicts and transatlantic crossings, so enjoy part 2 of Chan's T-Swift deep dive with Joe Peacock, Lauren's new sworn enemy. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

While Lauren is away on the high seas, Chanler invites her newest and hands down funniest friend Joe Peacock on the pod to do a complete critical analysis of Taylor Swift. Before we get into the woman of the hour (of a lifetime really) we discuss some iconic pop cultural moments from Joe's youth, e.g. Britney Spears Baby One More Time album release, Reese Witherspoon and Ryan Phillipe's demise and why he none of his offspring follow him back on IG. We juxtapose the thirst of Ryan Phillipe with the wonderful subtlety of Brad Falchuck's social media ~ a Pop Apologist classic ~ . Then we get to the matter at hand and discuss our thoughts on her first self-titled album, Taylor Swift. Then we reflect on Joe Jonas's massive impact on Fearless and all the T-Swift former flames scorned and immortalized on Speak Now. *Swifties and stans, beware, we do not hold back. Please also note that we accept full responsibility for listening to the "stolen version" of some of these albums, it was a necessary evil for the production of this podcast. Screw Scooter Braun. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we dive into the disturbing, sick world of beauty standards on social. Why are celebs like Denise Richards posting photos of themselves that are as detached from reality as Chanler's spending habits? What impact are filters that distort and "enhance" having on young girls and women? What do we do when instagram makes us feel like total shit about our bodies, faces, and lives? What is the difference between plastic surgery and an edited photo if both aren't "real?" We have an honest conversation about the way instagram has changed our perception of ourselves, our experiences, and what we do to safeguard our mental health in this brave new IG era. Buckle in, baby! Thank you to BetterHelp for sponsoring this ep! Visit Betterhelp.com/popapologists for 10% off your first month Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week Chan and Lauren catch up from across the pond. First, the gals dig into Denise Richard's most recent IG post and ask one burning question: wtf is happening on IG these days? Then, they regale each other with transatlantic tales from the weekend and discuss the disturbing news about Afghanistan. (Move over, Christiane Amanpour!) Finally, they embark on NYT's 36 questions that lead to love. Do they want to be famous? Would they rather have the body or mind of a 30 yr old forever? You know their answers already, but listen along as the Pop Apologists confirm their reputations as thirsty, shallow bitches. Buckle in, bb's. Many thanks to this week's sponsors! Thank you to BetterHelp for sponsoring this ep! Visit Betterhelp.com/popapologists for 10% off your first month Thank you to Athena Club for making the most incredible shave kits and sponsoring this episode! Go to athenaclub.com and use code POP for 20% off! BEST RAZOR OF ALL TIME. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lauren speaks to us across the airwaves from Portugal. Listen along as she gives us all the details on her business class transatlantic flight in true nouveau riche, basic b fashion. Chanler discusses her upcoming plans for her birthday and strategies for avoiding a meltdown. Finally, we intro a new segment, "What Lauren's Reading." This week, Lauren's tome of choice is "T: The Story of Testosterone, the Hormone that Dominates and Divides Us" by Carole Hooven. The book seeks to illustrate how the hormone to testosterone can explain the documented, cross-cultural differences between men and women. We start at the beginning, though, and chat about how ancient practices of castration were the first indicators of a powerful substance in a man's nether regions ultimately leading to the discovery of Testosterone. Buckle tf in. For an extra weekly episode of Pop Apologists every Friday, check out our Patreon where you can subscribe and keep the podcast alive. Visit http://patreon.com/popapologists for an additional hour of nonsense each week. Thank you to BetterHelp for sponsoring this ep! Visit Betterhelp.com/popapologists for 10% off your first month As you all know, we love Spade and Sparrows wine. It is absolutely delicious and the bottles are gorge. Visit www.spadeandsparrows.com to find your closest bottle. Enter code POP15 at checkout to get 15% off your first purchase. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This weekly dispatch finds Chanler in the idyllic Nantucket Island, where she is happily ensconced in a world of picturesque scenery and wealthy, well groomed families. We chat about her trip and the serenity that comes from being surrounded by the well heeled, which prompts Lauren to share her anachronistic fantasy about the ideal motherhood lifestyle. We then turn our attention to all things Olympics and chat about the Netflix doc Athlete A, which is a riveting documentary about USA Gymnastic's history of exploiting and abusing its athletes. We chat about Simone Biles and applaud her for prioritizing her own safety and sanity over the Olympics Industrial Complex. 👏🏻 For the second half of the ep, we interview Sara Vafi of Casita De Luz, a direct to consumer fine jewelry brand based out of Los Angeles. Sara is an absolute wealth of knowledge and breaks down the jewelry biz for us. She shares how to get stunning pieces at a fraction of what brands are selling them for, the benefits of starting a brand with Etsy, the newest hottest trends in jewelry, and her philosophy on building your collection. We were so thrilled to have Sara on the podcast! To check out Casita De Luz, click here and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for a little discount at checkout! ✨ For an extra weekly episode of Pop Apologists every Friday, check out our Patreon where you can subscribe and keep the podcast alive. Visit http://patreon.com/popapologists for an additional hour of nonsense each week. Thank you to BetterHelp for sponsoring this ep! Visit Betterhelp.com/popapologists for 10% off your first month As you all know, we love Spade and Sparrows wine. It is absolutely delicious and the bottles are gorge. Visit www.spadeandsparrows.com to find your closest bottle. Enter code POP15 at checkout to get 15% off your first purchase. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we get into a spirited debate over a nagging question Lauren can't get off her mind: how does wealth flow from ultra rich celebs to their normal, civilian family members? Does Taylor Swift party on yachts with the Hadid sisters while her brother grinds away from 9-5 at Allstate Insurance? How is the playing field artificially leveled to avoid vast chasms of resentment on both sides?! We get into a heated conversation about this and then turn to an even hotter topic: J-Lo's and Ben Affleck's nostalgia tour of Europe with PDA-packed throwback pics. Finally, Chanler gives a stunning recap of @houseinhabit on IG's deep dive on JFK Jr., and Lauren issues her thoughts on the news that Prince Harry is writing a memoir. Buckle in and hold onto your hats! Can't get enough of Pop Apologists?! Join us on Patreon where we release a brand new, additional episode every Friday! Visit patreon.com/popapologists to support the pod and access our weekly bonus episode! Many thanks to this week's sponsors! Thank you to BetterHelp for sponsoring this ep! Visit Betterhelp.com/popapologists for 10% off your first month As you all know, we love Spade and Sparrows wine. It is absolutely delicious and the bottles are gorge. Visit www.spadeandsparrows.com to find your closest bottle. Enter code POP15 at checkout to get 15% off your first purchase. Need to make a gorgeous, beautifully designed presentation? Check out Canva Pro! Visit canva.me/pop45 for a FREE 45-day extended trial. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

David Yontef, BFF of our most beloved housewives and host of the super successful podcast Behind the Velvet Rope, joins to give us all the insider Bravo tea. We explore some of the great questions of our time, like did Heather Dubrow get Braunwyn fired from RHOC? Where does the Dubrow fortune come from? How does one become friends with reality stars and perhaps even A-listers? Did Braunwyn fake her alcoholism for the show? Was Kelly Dodd fired bc of her politics or did Heather Dubrow get her ousted from our screens? We may be left with more questions than answers, but the investigative journey is in itself one toward enlightenment. Finally, David regales us with his conspiracy theory on Erika Jayne's divorce and the dark secret pact he imagines Tom made with Erika pre-divorce. David is the real deal of podcasters; he has interviewed all the housewives and is besties with many of them, and holds back no secrets. Check out his pod, Behind the Velvet Rope, to get all the hottest celeb and Bravo interviews, out five days a week! Thank you to BetterHelp for sponsoring this ep! Visit Betterhelp.com/popapologists for 10% off your first month As you all know, we love Spade and Sparrows wine. It is absolutely delicious and the bottles are gorge. Visit www.spadeandsparrows.com to find your closest bottle. Enter code POP15 at checkout to get 15% off your first purchase. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The smartest Bledsoe sis, Ash, is BACK to get into all things midwifery, pregnancy, giving birth, and postpartum care. Ash is an absolute wealth of knowledge and as a certified professional midwife, she isn't giving fraudulently uncredentialed, bad advice like Chanler and I do regularly. Ash tells us all about why a home birth is actually safer for women in many cases than a hospital birth and explains the truly shocking statistic that over thirty percent of babies are delivered by C-section in US hospitals. She gets into pregnancy nutrition advice and explains why it is so critical to stay active and eat mindfully during pregnancy. Finally, she tells us about her scariest moment as a midwife and gives some truly phenomenal advice about how to emotionally grapple with not having a good birth experience. Ash is incredible and we are so happy to have her back on the pod. Can't get enough of Pop Apologists?! Join us on Patreon where we release a brand new, additional episode every Friday! Visit patreon.com/popapologists to support the pod and access our weekly bonus episode! Many thanks to this week's sponsors! To learn more about Ash's face serum, visit johnsdottirapothecaries.com Thank you to BetterHelp for sponsoring this ep! Visit Betterhelp.com/popapologists for 10% off your first month As you all know, we love Spade and Sparrows wine. It is absolutely delicious and the bottles are gorge. Visit www.spadeandsparrows.com to find your closest bottle. Enter code POP15 at checkout to get 15% off your first purchase. Finally, thank you to Athena Club for making the most incredible shave kits and sponsoring this episode! Go to athenaclub.com and use code POP for 20% off! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

After a long and luxuriating holiday weekend, we return to the airwaves to recount how we respectively celebrated the 4th. Chanler travels to the East Coast and meets her man’s family; Lauren does what she does best and #yachts all around PR. We then dive into the alarming details of The Bachelorette’s Clare Crawley decision to remove her breast implants, why Pete Davidson is removing all of his tattoos, the lame reasons why we are not cut our for tattoo life, and finally what it means to be “demisexual” and why it suits our tender hearts. Thank you to BetterHelp for sponsoring this ep! Visit Betterhelp.com/popapologists for 10% off your first month As you all know, we love Spade and Sparrows wine. It is absolutely delicious and the bottles are gorge. Visit www.spadeandsparrows.com to find your closest bottle. Enter code POP15 at checkout to get 15% off your first purchase. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Just when you thought we had nothing left to say, we’re back with another hour of total nonsense. Chanler reveals how her first week in NYC is doing and Ben’s dark comments about her choice of footwear. If you’re still awake after this portion, listen along as we discuss #freebritney post the conservatorship hearing heard around the world. We then reveal our PR strategies for Erika Jayne to somehow resurrect her public image from the depths of hell Tom’s criminal activities have plunged her into. The conversation goes completely off the rails and we take a nostalgic walk down memory lane as we reveal the most romantic movie trailer of all time. Trigger warning to all of you who so passionately loathed Songs That Stir Us. Finally, we reveal our favorite things of the week in a new segment, “Latest & Greatest.” Thank you to Canva Pro for sponsoring this ep! Go to Canva.me/pop45 to get your free 45-day extended trial. Thank you also to BetterHelp for sponsoring this ep! Visit Betterhelp.com/popapologists for 10% off your first month As you all know, we love Spade and Sparrows wine. It is absolutely delicious and the bottles are gorge. Visit www.spadeandsparrows.com to find your closest bottle. Enter code POP15 at checkout to get 15% off your first purchase. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week our very own sis, Ash Johnsdottir, the enigmatic and eldest Bledsoe comes out of the shadows and joins the pod to regale our listeners with family tales growing up as a Bledsoe sis. Ash tells the story of choosing to change her last name to “Johnsdottir” and our parent's reaction to her foregoing our family name. We share family memories of growing up with Ash as a sister/family terrorist, a unique experience to say the least. :) Ash gives her thoughts on growing up with Lauren and Chanler, and what they were really like as kids. Finally, Ash shares her skin care philosophy including what she believes is the holy grail of all skin care products and her unique approach to purchasing sunscreen. For part two of our interview with Ash with even more skin care scoop, be sure to subscribe and listen to this week's Patreon episode on Friday. To learn more about Ash's face serum, visit https://www.johnsdottirapothecaries.com Thank you to BetterHelp for sponsoring this ep! Visit Betterhelp.com/popapologists for 10% off your first month As you all know, we love Spade and Sparrows wine. It is absolutely delicious and the bottles are gorge. Visit www.spadeandsparrows.com to find your closest bottle. Enter code POP15 at checkout to get 15% off your first purchase. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mary Fitzgerald joins to discuss all things real estate and the hit show she stars on, Selling Sunset on Netflix. Listen along as Mary divulges how the show began, how filming works, how she got her start in real estate and the difference between the shows portrayal of working in real estate and the reality of being an agent. Mary dishes on what it takes to really be successful in real estate and the gritty behind the scenes of selling a home. She tells us about dating Jason and their journey from a couple to business partners and best friends. Mary discusses the rumors behind her and Romain getting married before their wedding day on the show and the incorrect way the show portrayed their relationship in season 1. She also discusses her thoughts on the 75M listing, who she would choose from the cast to be her real estate agent if she was selling her house, and her go-to snacks and meals. We are so grateful for Mary taking the time to sit down with us! Thanks to Canva Pro for sponsoring this ep! Go to Canva.me/pop to get your free 45-day extended trial. Thank you to BetterHelp for sponsoring this ep! Visit Betterhelp.com/popapologists for 10% off your first month As you all know, we love Spade and Sparrows wine. It is absolutely delicious and the bottles are gorge. Visit www.spadeandsparrows.com to find your closest bottle. Enter code POP15 at checkout to get 15% off your first purchase. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week Chanler sends the innocent company, MakeSpace, into a state of emergency due to an embarrassing lack of spatial awareness. Lauren complains about overly chatty customer service representatives and the new ubiquity of tipping expectations. We recap the last week with our family in Utah with our grandma and our thoughts on Lilibet Diana, newly born sorta royal. Lauren discusses being shamed by Deb for getting multiple ear piercings and juxtaposes this with Gywneth Paltrow and Apple Martin’s birthday piercing tradition. Finally, we don our teal colored veils and go full Serena Joy Waterford on Em rata and Scott Disick for unseemly IG behavior. Buckle in, bb's! Many thanks to our wonderful sponsors! With HelloFresh, you get fresh, pre-measured ingredients and mouthwatering seasonal recipes delivered right to your door. Go to HelloFresh.com/12pop and use code "12pop" for 12 free meals, including free shipping! Thank you to BetterHelp for sponsoring this ep! Visit Betterhelp.com/popapologists for 10% off your first month Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We are so thrilled to bring you our interview with Arielle Lorre, beloved influencer and host of The Blonde Files podcast. Arielle tells us all about how she got started as an influencer during the height of the BBG craze on Instagram. We get into crazy diets we've tried in the past and the changing cultural landscape on social media. Arielle gives her take on the Kardashians and their impact on body image. We get into plastic surgery, body positivity, and how our own personal journeys have evolved over time. Finally, we dig into all things Hollywood, like how to get a table at any restaurant you want, if Hollywood secret sex clubs exist, and what celebrities are really like in real life. Many thanks to Arielle for coming on the pod and don't forget to check out her podcast, The Blonde Files, and her Instagram account, @ariellelorre. Thank you to our fav wine company, Spade and Sparrows, for sponsoring this ep! Use the following link to get your next bottle! https://spadeandsparrows.com Many thanks to our other sponsor, Canva Pro, for supporting this episode today! Go to canva.me/pop for a 45 day free extended trial of Canva Pro! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We are absolutely so thrilled to get to dive into all things yachting with Bugsy Drake, an absolute personal and fan favorite of the Bravo hit show, Below Deck Med! Bugsy gets into all the details about not only working on super yachts, but also BTS deets about doing so while filming the show! Listen along as she tells us about how she got into yachting, the real $$$$ you can make in the biz, her thoughts on Hannah and Captain Sandy, and what happens when guests see the crew bad mouthing them when the show airs! Bugsy also gives us all her secrets behind creating her stunning tablescapes, and an inside peek at her new book, "The Art of Tablescaping: Deck Out Your Table with the Queen of Theme!" So many thanks to Bugsy for coming on the show! Grab a copy of her book to bring some glamour and fun to your next dinner party: https://www.amazon.com/Art-Tablescaping-Table-Queen-Theme/dp/1734880228 We're also so grateful to Hello Fresh for sponsoring today's show. Visit the following link and use the code 12pop for 12 free meals! www.hellofresh.com/12pop Thank you also to our fav wine company, Spade and Sparrows, for also sponsoring this ep! Use the following link to get your next bottle! www.spadeandsparrows.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this ep, Chanler regales Lauren with her trip to Carmel with Mr. NY and a very special spa experience that had her feeling like a truly rich person for a blessed 3 hours. Then, the gals dissect the news of Melinda and Bill Gates getting divorced, including the extremely ominous words in the court filings that describe their marriage as "irretrievably broken." Then, we bring on D'Andra Simmons of RHOD who spills insider tea on the woman who Bill could never quite let go of. Finally, D'Andra lets us in on her skin care secrets, Mama Dee's dating advice, her first career at the Department of Energy, and where she stands now with Dallas society. Buckle in, baby! Many thanks to this week's sponsor, Spade & Sparrows! If you want a delicious wine to guzzle all your fav reality tv with, head over to www.spadeandsparrows.com 🍷 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What a journey you will embark on as you listen to this ep. First, we give our initial impression on all things RHOD. Then, we complain about all the thirst traps on instagram in the name of Earth Day (mainly bc we couldn’t find a good one of our own to post). We give our unfiltered thoughts on Demi Lovato’s breakdown at The Big Chill yogurt shop and Lauren rants about the tone-deafness of certain virtue signalers to normal people. Finally, we introduce a new segment, “Songs That Stir Us,” and invite you to transport yourself during this immersive, sonic experience. Buckle in, baby. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This episode is an absolute banger. First, we divulge the single greatest dating tip in 2021 (buckle tf in for this one). Then, we question the survivalist industrial complex and ask one burning question: do you really want to be alive after the apocalypse? And finally, we sit down with our fav, Amanda Hirsch, of the Not Skinny But Not Fat podcast and IG account, to dig into all things Em Rata, KUWTK, Skourt, and Kravis – and yes, you better believe it, we discuss the thumb sucking post. Buckle in, baby! Many thanks to our sponsor, HelloFresh, for supporting this episode today! Go to www.hellofresh.com/12pop and use code "12pop" for 12 free meals, including free shipping! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this ep we dissect Travis Barker's instagram ode to Kourtney Kardashian and juxtapose it with one of the greatest digital peons to a beloved: Brad Falchuk's sun-drenched photo and love letter to Gwyneth Paltrow. Lauren discusses dining out with Deb and a telling story about Chanler as a toddler that came out across a stunning P.F. Chang's meal. We then interview Damaris Bailey, the designer behind the eponymously named fashion brand. She tells us all about how she started the brand, behind the scenes details on how her pieces are produced, and her insider thoughts on the Doen drama. Guy Raz, step aside, this ep will leave you inspired to actually do something with your life (for once). Buckle in, baby! Thanks to Canva Pro for sponsoring our podcast! Go to Canva.me/pop to get your free 45-day extended trial. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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This is a fun ep y'all. Tune in to hear: - How Lauren's wedding venue site visit went - All our thoughts on the Doen Drama - The photo Khloe Kardashian never wanted you to see - Developments on the FBI vs. Jen Shah - Sofia Richie's new flame Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This episode is a real treat y'all. Together with Kate Casey's expertise we go over her stint as an OC stage mom, the time Armie Hammer's father invited her to his home, and all her hot takes on the demise of J Lo + A Rod, Mormon influencers/RHOSLC, and a thorough analysis on Sister Wives/My 5 Wives. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We are joined by the courageous and wonderful India Oxenberg, executive producer and star of Seduced on Starz, author of "Still Learning," and activist with the Oxenberg Foundation. We deep dive into all things NXIVM including: - Why Keith chose Albany? - What were the neighbors thinking? - How does she feel about Allison Mack today? - Does she think Allison is still a supporter of NXIVM? - Is Keith trying to control his supporters from prison? - Did he show remorse during the trial? - Nancy — calculated co-conspirator or or unwitting true believer? - Details about Keith’s sexual history that did not make it into the documentary. - Did India know about Camilla and Daniela Fernandez? - What is the root of Keith’s hatred of women? - The moment India realized Keith was a sociopath (and not just a bad person). - What made the judge gave him the maximum sentence (120 years when he could have only given him 56). - What does India think of The Dossier Project? - Did she have a lightbulb moment? - How to talk to someone who is in a toxic system if you are trying to get them out of it. - How India learned the truth about what the brand actually represented. - Is she still in touch with other ex-NXIVM members? - What was the process of re-entering normal life like? TRIGGER WARNING: this episodes contains references to victims of human trafficking, sex trafficking, coercion and control groups, and sexual abuse. If you are the victim of sex crimes, we urge you to seek support with RAINN, the nation's largest anti-sexual violence organization at http://rainn.org. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

47: Meghan & Harry vs. The Firm ft. Royal Historian, Andrew Hansen by Pop Apologists Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

46: Lady Gaga's Dognapping, Prince Harry's PR Strategy, & Lauren's Polygamy Plug by Pop Apologists Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

45: Emo Kim K, Allen v. Farrow, Gen Z Attacks 💀, & Why You Don't Need Hobbies by Pop Apologists Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

44: Kancel Kendall by Pop Apologists Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

43: Dissecting "Framing Britney" ft. Pop Historian, Lee Thomas by Pop Apologists Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

42: Celeb Meltdowns & Mission Viejo Mall Memories ft. Lo VonRumpf by Pop Apologists Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

41: Once Upon a Time in LA Advertising ft. Faith Ivory by Pop Apologists Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

40: How To Make Him Fall In Love with Angie Harrington by Pop Apologists Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, Lauren updates the listeners on how her new life in Puerto Rico is going. The Pop Apologists then discuss the new leaked and extremely disturbing DM's from Armie Hammer revealing his cannibalistic fantasies. Finally, OG Pop Apologist Meggan returns to give her thoughts on the Kimye split and a recent round of hospital stays/vandalism that has dogged her ever since leaving the pod. Buckle in, baby! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

38: New Year's Resignations by Pop Apologists Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We answer your questions including: 1) if we have ever stolen anything from a hotel room, 2) why tf Lauren is moving to Puerto Rico, and 3) if she will pretend to be Puerto Rican hence forth Hilaria Baldwin-style. We are then joined by Andrew Craig Hansen, a British Royal Historian who answers all our questions surrounding season 4 of The Crown. We get into the political climate in the UK during the 80's/90's, Margaret Thatcher's impact on British politics, Olivia Coleman's acting style vs. Gillian Anderson's, how the UK tabloids control the royals, The Crown's portrayal of Prince Charles and Princess Diana, and finally which of the Pop Apologists is hot for Charles Windsor. Buckle. In. Baby. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

36: The Case Against Erika Jayne ft. OC Divorce Attorney, Our Beloved Dad by Pop Apologists Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

35: The Bad Broadcast x The Pop Apologists by Pop Apologists Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

34: Mr. & Mrs. Great Things I Bought by Pop Apologists Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

33: Dr. Phil's Thanksgiving by Pop Apologists Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

31: Sensual Oreos & ThanksgivingGate by Pop Apologists Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

30: These Are Our Confessions by Pop Apologists Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

29: Em Rata Reveals Pregnancy & Women Collectively Groan Across Earth's Surface by Pop Apologists Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

28: There Must Be More Than This Provincial Life by Pop Apologists Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we offer financial advice...as two women who just asked their listeners for money, promptly followed up with a passionate ode to our new fav purchase that we can’t shut up about. Chanler then issues a stern rebuke against Dominic West and Lily James, while Lauren laments the sad reality exposed by the lovebirds: no one looks as great as they thought they would in a Reformation dress. We then go on an emotionally charged journey where we examine why a certain influencer’s oatmeal triggered Lauren so deeply and why depictions of hyper-thin celebrities and film characters (like Emily in Paris) eating with abandon is unrealistic/damaging/a mindf*ck for young girls. Finally, we discuss some of our fav influencers to follow that champion body positivity, share a stunning fake ad, and end with a gentle plea on bended knee from Lauren that national holidays on instagram be henceforth prohibited by law. Buckle in, baby. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We, two childless women, issue strong opinions on traveling with kids, Bledsoe family vacations filled with ordering poolside cocktails, Lauren’s Karen moment at her Orange County gym, John and Deb’s journey out of Orange County to the heathen city SF, why mountain biking won’t keep Lauren and Kagen’s flame alive, David Foster fathering another child he won’t have time for, and finally we answer your q’s about being a better friend, in-law drama, and our thoughts on getting in shape! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week's episode is full of confessions, including the libelous lengths we’ll go to in order to get out of dates at the last minute. After this soul cleansing via public airwaves, we review the far cry from reality that is Emily in Paris, the new show taking Netlflix and basic bitches everywhere by storm. Finally, Lauren issues a public statement and robust rebuttal against new accusations lobbied at Meghan Markle. And last but not least, we have a juicy interview with dear friend who was once recruited by NXIVM's one and only Marc Elliott. Buckle in, baby. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we really don’t hold back, for better or worse. We get into Zac Efron‘s new girlfriend and her newfound ability to quit her serving job, our searing hot take on Brad Falchuck’s annual Instagram tribute to GP, some sage and dark wisdom from our father, Kate Middleton’s cool as ice reputation, and the obsession-worthy HBO docuseries “The Vow”— buckle in, baby. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We launch a verbal attack against hot water with lemon, the preferred beverage of bullshitters worldwide, discuss Meghan Markle’s journey from music video star to English royalty (and all of the titillating tidbits Lauren is learning about in FINDING FREEDOM), mourn Paris Hilton’s shoddily decorated mansion and her exit from the garden of innocence, break down the indignities we will willingly endure to get marginal discounts from Direct-To-Consumer brands, finally confess our fetish for Christian men (yeah, you read that right), and debate Stassi Schroeder’s return to Instagram. Buckle in, baby! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

22: Is This Funny? ...and Courtney Grow Q&A pt. 2 by Pop Apologists Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We dish on a day in the life as we continue squatting in Courtney's abode, the true nightmare wedding experience Lauren lived through last weekend, Courtney's financial footing in the world (perilous, perhaps?!), advice on skin care in your twenties, how Courtney met her husband and what he thinks of her fashun lewks, a full breakdown of Courtney's tit job (photos in the show notes), and much more....buckle in, baby! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we extoll the virtues of the 3.5 hour workday, offer an uncharacteristically calm attitude toward Kylie Jenner’s pandemic globe-trotting, deep dive into Brad Pitt’s new relationship with Nicole Poturalski, rejoice at the birth but mourn the unfortunate name of Daisy Dove Bloom, break out the DSM-IV to psychoanalyze an obscure-but-alarming IG story from Kim K this week, and listen to Chanler’s weeping and wailing over Bella Thornes continued unwitting attack on her psyche. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Listen this week for one of Lauren's ex-boyfriend's big complaints about her, the Pop Apologists' complicated feelings on Dorinda's firing from RHONY, and a conversation with their sister, Courtney, about their Mormon upbringing, illicit bikini-clad teenage trips to the beach, Diet Coke drama, and the time Lauren got tipsy on Mike's Hard Lemonade. Buckle in, baby. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Chan's date with a big tobacco tycoon, Paris Hilton is releasing a documentary, Khloe Kardashian is back with Tristan, Barack Obama is listening to Billie Eilish and The Chicks, Kim and Kanye divorce predictions, and Jordan McGraw's big reckoning...we talk about it all folks! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

17: Mom, Please Stop Listening by Pop Apologists Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week ya gals discuss the dark time Prince William gifted Kate a pair of binoculars, do a deep dive on the show "Love Life" on HBO Max, complete a forensic analysis of the *chilling* RHOBH Rome dinner, and wax poetically over the most recent Goop video Gwyneth posted like the cliché white girls we were born to be. Buckle in, baby. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

14: Yolanda We Stan by Pop Apologists Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

None other than Courtney Grow joins on the pod to discuss a whole smattering of topics. We get into Courtney's deep love of Prince William as a young girl and the devastation his union with Kate has wreaked on her mental health as an adult. We chat other childhood crushes including Lauren's moment of insanity and lust for Damien Rice. Speaking of slight Irishmen, Courtney reveals the surprise she found in the basement of her new home. We get into the treasure Chan found in Courtney's trash, and enough sister tales to fill an hour. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On today’s ep we talk about our tried and true ghosting techniques, Kanye 2020 aka Kris Jenner Commander in Chief, our favorite Karen character, and Dr. Phil’s, future daughter in law-Morgan Stewart. Buckle in, baby. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, we dig into our reincarnation as Lake Forest, California career-women, Chanler recounts what it’s like to have chores once more as a full-fledged, rent-paying adult, the new show Lenox Hill on Netflix that is already threatening Lauren's nascent engagement, and whether Kim Kardashian could truly survive forsaking the glamour and chopped salads of Calabases for the big blue skies of Wyoming. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We take off our comedy hats in this special episode and sit down as two sisters as Lauren recounts her engagement. If you want to skip the sap, we don't blame you. We'll be back next week with things that actually matter! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we make our triumphant return and discuss all of the pop culture news no one has, or should, care about during the last two weeks, like the demise of Sophia Richie and Scott Disick’s romantic union, the dramatic removal of Kylie Jenner from Forbes' billionaire list, and the deeply inspiring ways Kate Middleton is saving, and salving, the people of England. Buckle in, baby. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we dive into it all. Like nannies everywhere being forced to quarantine with their bosses around the clock thanks to Corona. Lauren reveals her own nanny nightmare spent in the South of France that led to a transatlantic rescue by Deb and 14-year old Chanler. Chanler wistfully recounts her LA life and identity coming to a close this week. We offer our thoughts on the pivotal end of an era VPR finale, wherein Lauren exposes a passionate and potentially unhinged defense of Jax Taylor. And of course we share other unhinged thoughts about the real housewives...and their husbands. We also cover the astonishing results of our Tom Girardi hot or not poll on IG and a bit of arm chair psychology regarding what the hell is going on with Dorinda Medley. Buckle in, baby. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we dig into the deep joy that returning brings us, shameful items we’ve returned in the past (like the time Chanler returned a used tarp to Wal Mart), Courtney’s tips for how to pull off a great outfit even if all you’ve got goin' on is a quick Target run, our deep analysis of lip filler, which housewive’s closet we’d pillage and which one we’d burn to the ground, the time Gigi Hadid’s dad, Mohamed, drove Courtney and her friends around Beverly Hills, and Mary Kate Olsen’s divorce from her older French banker husband. Buckle in, baby. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

During this ep with our beloved older sister, Courty Shorty, we discuss grave fashion errors from our long gone youth, the broken road of Courtney’s Victoria Secret credit card, outlandish-but-completely-reasonable IG relationship expectations, and just how close to edge you can push your spouse during Q. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We finally announce a very exciting turn of events in Chanler’s world, recount in blistering detail the excruciating time, as children, our mother made us picket a tile company (oh and yes, Deb makes an appearance on today’s episode), passionately debate if Stassi’s ring is a dream piece of bling or grandma jewelry, and reenact the dramatic speech Aaron gave for his healing abilities at Kyle Richard’s dinner. Buckle in, baby. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We discuss the grave indignities Lauren is suffering in her journey to find a job, the celebrity couples we follow a little too closely on Instagram, Stassi Shroeder’s epic meltdown in the most recent episode of VPR, Leah from Rhône’s naked tiki torch tantrum, and our shameful secret thoughts about Denise Richard’s husband, Aaron. Buckle in, baby. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of Pop Apologists, you’ll learn how Meggan is handling Utah’s recurring earthquakes, Chanler’s quarantine quest to find herself, the dramatic highs and lows of Lauren’s home bakery business, which celebrities are selling $28 hand sanitizer to profit from the pandemic, the changing public reception to celebrities flaunting their wealth, and this week’s episodes of Vanderpump Rules, RHOBH, RHONY, and an impassioned PSA from Lauren to not miss the boat on 90 Day Fiance. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Corona highs and lows. Reality TV recaps. And again we don't have any of the information here in the notes section that Chanler promised. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Pop Apologists reunite after four long years to relaunch the podcast that they frantically deleted in 2016 after Deb (Lauren & Chan’s mom) found out about it. Fast forward to 2020 and the gals, finally paying for their own cell phone bills and lives, reunite to bring back the pod, unafraid of their T-Mobile plans being cancelled as retribution for bringing back the pod their mom calls “absolutely so embarrassing for our family.” Lauren shares how in the past four years she has risen from unemployed poet to illustrious business success as an esteemed executive assistant, only to be laid off due to COVID. Chan shares how life has brought her to sunny Los Angeles, CA, and that – unlike Lauren – she is not only fully employed but also being recruited by Big Tech. Meggan discusses her move from Provo, UT to the decidedly more urbane, liberal, and cool Salt Lake City. Tune in to hear her discuss how life is going working for an event production company during a global pandemic. 🤪 Updates aside, the gals gab about celeb & reality tv gossip of the week: - Kristin Cavallari escaping to a “deserted island” aka the Bahamas. - Pink, Tom Hanks & Rita Wilson contracting Covid - Morgan Stewart dating Dr. Phil’s son - Who would you rather, Chris or Andrew Cuomo? - Vanderpump Rules: Will Stassi & Beaux make it? - Kim Kardashian’s evolving hairstyles Blueberries Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices